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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: You want to be happy for day Ado State? Is that?

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Speaker 1: Whoo whoom? And Dan and Tye welcome back to the

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Speaker 1: Solid Verbo boys and girls. My name is ty Hildebrand,

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Speaker 1: joining me over there in New York City, My man,

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Speaker 1: the one and only Dan Rubenstein. Sir, how are you? Ty?

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Speaker 2: I have a proposal, and I didn't run this by

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Speaker 2: you beforehand because I'm fifty percent owner of Solid Verbal

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Speaker 2: Media LLC.

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Speaker 1: Correct, Yes, I believe that's correct.

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Speaker 2: Okay, fifty percent, And so I would like to offer,

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Speaker 2: not necessarily and I do have a Saturday nickname, but

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Speaker 2: not necessarily that I want to. I want to propose

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Speaker 2: a general theme for a show this important, in which

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Speaker 2: we preview Championship weekend. Okay, my thematic proposal is cleanliness.

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Speaker 1: Cleanliness, cle Darryl Saturday.

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Speaker 2: And you can probably already hear in my voice, but

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Speaker 2: I just got out of the shower, okay, and I

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Speaker 2: feel great. And that's where I think, Tie, that's where

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Speaker 2: I washed just not just my body.

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Speaker 1: But also my mind.

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Speaker 2: Sure clans where I really yes, sure, And so that

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Speaker 2: to me is going to be at least my half

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Speaker 2: of the show in terms of theme cleanliness, what are

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Speaker 1: Tie, It's always a December to remember. Very soothing to

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Speaker 1: month of December. Now, of course we're talking about all

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Speaker 1: things Conference championships. Yeah, yeah, that's what we got going

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Speaker 1: We've got a group of five games. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: on this one final weekly preview show for the twenty

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Speaker 2: So the final one this season actually flew by some

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Speaker 2: And now ahead of what shampoo Saturday, she watched away

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Speaker 1: And we have confirmed that Anthony McFarlane is not Booger's son,

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Speaker 1: Laviskus Channault figures to be a first round talent. Real

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Got to click the links, people, You gotta click

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Speaker 1: Not a sponsor, not a sponsor. No, I have that

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Speaker 2: I don't see any game, and I'm including every single

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Speaker 2: I don't see a damn window. This is a cheap

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Speaker 2: Have you heard knives Out? I've heard amazing things about

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Speaker 2: I think you're right and throw chess passes. Kids get money,

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Speaker 2: Tie would throw chess passes if put in that opportunity

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Speaker 2: not throwing a chess pass ended up costing.

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Speaker 1: You an extra hundred grand. Sure have you talked about

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Speaker 1: your kids on the show yet? No? Not yet. Okay,

434
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Speaker 1: you would kind of be furious. I would have a

435
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Speaker 1: hard time with that. Yeah, yeah, no, Okay, the rent

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Speaker 1: would go up. Okay, I'm glad we agree on everything. Now.

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Speaker 1: SEC Championship game. This one's at four pm on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: It's on CBS. It's eleven and one Georgia, It's twelve

439
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Speaker 1: and o LSU. The Bayou Bengals are a seven and

440
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Speaker 1: one half point favorite. They didn't play during the regular season.

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Speaker 1: They played this one in Atlanta, so it's sort of

442
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Speaker 1: a home game for the George Bulldogs. Would you agree

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Speaker 1: that this game is our best chance for an upset

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Speaker 1: this weekend? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I mean upset in quotes, right. It's number It's two

446
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Speaker 2: top four teams playing. I don't know what they'll end

447
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Speaker 2: up after the fact, but yeah, I suppose Georgia in

448
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Speaker 2: Atlanta in a dome. I mean's fast track for LSU

449
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Speaker 2: has a very good shot at winning this game. But

450
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Speaker 2: they're a touchdown dog here there, a dog is a dog. Yeah,

451
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Speaker 2: I think I think this is the best chance for upset.

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Speaker 2: I took a while with this one. It was at

453
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Speaker 2: what seven and a half eight points? It came down

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Speaker 2: to seven.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have this as a push to you. Really. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: What I do a lot of the time is I

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Speaker 2: don't look at the spread and I just think about

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Speaker 2: what I think the final score will be. If I

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Speaker 2: had to go one direction or the other, I think

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Speaker 2: I would probably take Georgia to cover this, But I

461
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Speaker 2: have LSU winning either way. Their offense, as we've seen

462
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Speaker 2: all year, incredible, amazing. I think the biggest concern with

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Speaker 2: the Tigers from time to time has been their run defense,

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Speaker 2: especially if we're comparing it to what the Georgia offense

465
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Speaker 2: can or can't do down I guess a receiver and

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Speaker 2: a half since George Pickens is suspended for the first half.

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Speaker 2: Not a lot of firepower from Georgia in the passing game,

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Speaker 2: at least creatively, there isn't. LSU's defense has played pretty

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Speaker 2: well against the run. They did a decent enough job

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Speaker 2: against Alabama. We saw them completely hold down Texas A

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Speaker 2: and m and it was all missed running a different

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Speaker 2: style offense that really succeeded, and Georgia won't be running

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Speaker 2: that style. So if we're really going to reduce it,

474
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Speaker 2: it's stopped DeAndre Swift. A beat up DeAndre Swift and win.

475
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Speaker 2: But that's easier said than done, ty. So on the

476
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Speaker 2: Georgia side, to me, their defense is clearly great with

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Speaker 2: the caveat The best quarterback they've played is almost assuredly

478
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Speaker 2: Kyle Trask, right, definitely, and they did a pretty good

479
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Speaker 2: job against him. But they really haven't been tested by

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Speaker 2: a top flight quarterback, so we really don't know how

481
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Speaker 2: they respond in the face of a killer offense. So

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Speaker 2: I guess you got to score thirty to beat LSU,

483
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Speaker 2: and that seems like a lot for this Georgia team,

484
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Speaker 2: which hasn't really gotten there against good teams. So I

485
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Speaker 2: originally twenty seven to twenty, I guess I can make

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Speaker 2: a twenty seven to twenty one Tigers very cleanly get

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Speaker 2: into the playoff.

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Speaker 1: I am also taking the points here. George is really

489
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Speaker 1: good against the pass. I don't think they're outright stopping

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow because no one's done that, right, But can

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Speaker 1: they curtail him. Yeah, I think they can, Oh my gosh, yeah,

492
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Speaker 1: of course. And because they are so shorthanded out wide,

493
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Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me at all if they just try

494
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Speaker 1: to run clock and they take the air out of

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Speaker 1: the ball. They play that ugly sec man ball that

496
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Speaker 1: we came to love or hate at Alabama over the years.

497
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Speaker 1: But it's kind of their style, you know, in SEC

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Speaker 1: play this year, their first in time of possession. It

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Speaker 1: does sound like, thankfully DeAndre Swift is okay and he's

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Speaker 1: gonna play here. We already talked about it being sort

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Speaker 1: of a home game in Atlanta. I just it feels

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Speaker 1: to me like there's a lot to like about Georgia here.

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Speaker 1: I too, am very concerned about offensive firepower. That's been

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Speaker 1: a recurring theme so far this year. And I certainly

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Speaker 1: don't think that they can win in a shootout with LSU.

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Speaker 1: But can they muddy it up? Has Georgia played in

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Speaker 1: a shootout this year? I don't know. I don't think

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Speaker 1: they have. Can Georgia muddy it up? Can they make

509
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Speaker 1: it an ugly game? I think they can? And I'm

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Speaker 1: getting a little nuts here, but I've Georgia twenty eight

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Speaker 1: twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: Wow, okay, And have you softened it all on your

513
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Speaker 2: thoughts of LSU being in. No matter what happens in

514
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Speaker 2: this game, this game means nothing. LSU might as well

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Speaker 2: start their third stringers. Have I thought more about it? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean we had this discussion. I sort of put

517
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Speaker 2: you on the spots. Sometimes you need a little bit

518
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Speaker 2: more time to meditate on things and maybe change your position.

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Speaker 1: I certainly can. If it's twenty eight twenty seven, I

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Speaker 1: think they get in.

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Speaker 2: If it's twenty eight twenty seven, LSU, it does not

522
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Speaker 2: matter what happens in this game, they're in.

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Speaker 1: Yes. Agree.

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Speaker 2: And if Oklahoma just blows the doors off of a

525
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Speaker 2: really good Baylor team doesn't matter to you.

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Speaker 1: I mean it matters to me. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: go make it. I mean it doesn't matter to you.

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Speaker 1: In terms of LSU's positioning in this I think LSU

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Speaker 1: teams in because at that point, Dan, at that point,

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Speaker 1: when you are comparing teams, you're comparing the body of

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Speaker 1: work over the full year.

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, it's very difficult to compare bodies of work.

533
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Speaker 2: It's it's also like how they win. You know what

534
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Speaker 2: the actual scenario is. When I think it's important.

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Speaker 1: But if it's one v one v one, if we're

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Speaker 1: talking about LSU against Utah against Oklahoma, I'm taking LSU

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Speaker 1: la losing to Georgia. I'm taking ls's loss to Georgia

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Speaker 1: over Utah's loss over Oklahoma's loss.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that renders the game meaningless then it would.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not just I can't get behind a college

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Speaker 2: football even if that's a reality in which I live

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Speaker 2: and you live and everybody listening to this lives. I'm

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Speaker 2: just not going to say I'm on board with it

544
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Speaker 2: fair I am. I am completely out, and I would

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Speaker 2: put either one of the conference champions, not necessarily because

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Speaker 2: they're conference champions, but because they won. Right now as

547
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Speaker 2: a fully formed team, we have what twelve data points

548
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Speaker 2: on all of these teams, and LSU has an opportunity

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Speaker 2: to beat a playoff team and firmly establish themselves as

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Speaker 2: a top four team, and they lose on a neutral field.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand why that earns them a do over,

552
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Speaker 2: and we don't get to see if Oklahoma or Utah

553
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Speaker 2: is able to beat Georgia. I'm not I'm out on it.

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Speaker 1: It's two different trains of thought for sure, we could

555
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: do a full podcast on this, but I think we

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Speaker 1: are in agreement that we're both taking the points. Though,

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Speaker 1: yes we agree. As far as I can tell, no

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Speaker 1: Georgia game would qualify as a shootout, and that's good

559
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Speaker 1: credit much credit to their defense. The ACC Championship game

560
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Speaker 1: play this one in Charlotte. It is seven point thirty

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Speaker 1: Saturday evening on ABC. It is the nine to three

562
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Speaker 1: Virginia Cavaliers. It is the twelve and zero Clemson Tigers.

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Speaker 1: The points spread here is a meaty twenty eight and

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Speaker 1: a half points, obviously in favor of your defending national champions.

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Speaker 1: These two teams last played back in twenty thirteen during

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Speaker 1: the ballyhooed Mike London era. Dan Sure, Clemson won that

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Speaker 1: game fifty nine to ten. Okay, So to say that

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Speaker 1: it's a bit of a revenge spot for or Virginia

569
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Speaker 1: might be a bit of a stretch, but isn't entirely off.

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Speaker 1: I struggled with what I want to say about this game. Oh,

571
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Speaker 1: keep it clean, tie, that's the theme. They're kids listening.

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Speaker 1: I have a hard time breaking this one down because

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Speaker 1: it feels like so much of a foregone conclusion. I

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Speaker 1: really like Bryce Perkins, he's certainly not good enough to

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Speaker 1: do it on his own against the really good Clemson defense.

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Speaker 1: I like the UVA defense, but not enough to really

577
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Speaker 1: hold down Trevor Lawrence and all the weapons that he has.

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Speaker 1: On the Clemson side, they are clearly the better football team.

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Speaker 1: M UVA is. I guess you could argue legitimately the

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Speaker 1: second best team that they've played all year. So maybe

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Speaker 1: there's something there. But I really struggled with trying to

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Speaker 1: put together like why Sam Clemson played I guess Texas

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Speaker 1: A and m Okay, I'm just curious. I really struggled

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Speaker 1: with thoughtful commentary that could actually advance to discussion on

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Speaker 1: the a SEC Championship game.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, first of all, I think North Carolina probably

587
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Speaker 2: is because they got within one, and that automatically does

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Speaker 2: it for me. Before I talk about this game and

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Speaker 2: address all of those comments, can you play the breaking

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Speaker 2: news sound?

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Speaker 1: I can. Don't tell me Clay Hilton got fired because

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Speaker 1: this will already be news to everybody listening. It's for

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Speaker 1: you and me. Mike Bone, USC athletic director verified account

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Speaker 1: just tweeted out, I'm pleased to let you know Coach

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Speaker 1: Helton will continue to be our head coach. Yes, we

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Speaker 1: got one right. His commitment to our student athletes and

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Speaker 1: to leading with integrity. Oh interesting? Interesting? What is he

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Speaker 1: saying with that.

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Speaker 2: Is vital to restoring our championship program, which is the

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Speaker 2: goal for all of our teams. So far, it has

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Speaker 2: two hundred and seven retweets and eight hundred plus replies,

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Speaker 2: So Mike Bon's getting ratio a ratio situation. We'll see

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Speaker 2: what happens with the assistant situation and how they perhaps

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Speaker 2: will attempt to improve and add to and adjust and

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Speaker 2: tweak and overhaul the USC program under Clay Helton.

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Speaker 1: I understand the move, it is still somewhat surprising.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, the ACC Championship game. So you're right, it

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Speaker 2: is very hard to figure out how this is a

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Speaker 2: competitive game for as good as Bryce Perkins as a

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Speaker 2: do everything talent, and he's probably the best do everything

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Speaker 2: quarterback Clemson will face this year. Sam Howell might be

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Speaker 2: the best thrower, but in terms of somebody who can

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Speaker 2: take over a game, that's Bryce Perkins. Unfortunately, I think

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Speaker 2: he is really good at times and okay other times,

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Speaker 2: and his ceiling is just not what somebody like Johnny

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Speaker 2: Manzel or Cam Newton or somebody like that who can

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Speaker 2: just be an all purpose quarterback and take over a

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Speaker 2: game in a huge spot against a very good team.

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Speaker 2: So if Virginia is going to hang around, if they're

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Speaker 2: going to make this a game, it's gonna take Bryce Perkins.

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Speaker 2: It's going to take probably a pick six, It's probably

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Speaker 2: gonna take a kick return for a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Luckily, they might have the best kick returner in the country. Hi,

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Speaker 1: Joe Reid, Hi, nice to see you. The problem is

625
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Speaker 1: away from from Whoville, Array, away from Charlottesville. Bryce Perkins

626
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Speaker 1: sort of takes a dip away from home, and it's

627
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Speaker 1: not far to Charlotte. But this Clemson defense is just absurd,

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Speaker 1: especially against the pass, especially throwing the ball, and Virginia's

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Speaker 1: beat up in their secondary. So I would expect success

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Speaker 1: both deep and turning small passes into big passes for Clemson.

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Speaker 1: And I didn't see the spread before I.

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Speaker 2: Came up with the score. I have it thirty five

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Speaker 2: to ten Clemson, So I guess Virginia covers Array.

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Speaker 1: It feels like a lot of points, doesn't it. It does,

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Speaker 1: she doesn't feel like many points.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And also, and I don't know how much I

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Speaker 2: believe this, But if this is the cliched conventional, Clemson

638
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: doesn't want to put too much on film ahead of

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Speaker 2: a potential playoff matchup, so you could see them not

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00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: wanting to get somebody hurt. If they're way ahead in

641
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: this game'd be great if it were competitive late, but

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Speaker 2: I think the breaks will be on, especially in light

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Speaker 2: of Dabbo.

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Speaker 1: Saying how good the ACC is. Right, there's that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean the one game that keeps bouncing around in

646
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Speaker 1: my mind is Clemson losing to Miami seventeen to nine

647
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Speaker 1: or something like they didn't even score. I mean Virginia

648
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Speaker 1: losing Virginia Sorry, yeah, Virginia losing on the road at

649
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 1: Miami seventeen to nine. Yeah, that was the final score.

650
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Speaker 1: They look really bad in that game. And I just

651
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Speaker 1: don't know what happens when you go up against clearly

652
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Speaker 1: the best defense you've faced all year. Right, So I

653
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Speaker 1: think it's right on that number. I think it's something

654
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Speaker 1: like forty nine to ten, forty nine to seventeen, somewhere

655
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Speaker 1: in that range.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So first, how many points does Virginia need to score?

657
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Speaker 2: Just what is their final score? Where if you just

658
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Speaker 2: saw it on ESPN's bottom line, you'd be like, oh wow,

659
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Speaker 2: good for you Virginia.

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Speaker 1: In terms of total points. Yeah yeah, if they got

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Speaker 1: to twenty eight. Yeah, that's exactly what I had in

662
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Speaker 1: my mind. Twenty eight would impress me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and what percentage? What are your odds? Just from

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Speaker 2: a zero to one hundred?

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Speaker 1: That?

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Speaker 2: Uh, this is you know, Virginia can do all of

667
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 2: those things. Cleanliness is the theme. They can keep it.

668
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: They can keep it clean. No turnovers, no, no big mistakes,

669
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Speaker 2: no crazy penalties. And get that kick return, get that

670
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Speaker 2: pick six, get that ten percent crazy field position.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have it like seven and a half percent,

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Speaker 1: ten percent. Okay, yeah, I man, that's a lot of

673
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Speaker 1: points though it is. I'm taking points. I'm changing for

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678
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Speaker 2: I should mention for any of these cities if you're

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681
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682
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Speaker 1: Sounds great. Let's move on to the Big Ten Championship game.

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Speaker 1: This one is also on Saturday night at eight pm.

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Speaker 1: It is on the Fox Network. It is Ohio State

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Speaker 1: at twelve and oh It is Wisconsin at ten and two.

720
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Speaker 1: And this one also is a meaty seventeen point Spreaddan.

721
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: You may recall these teams played back at the end

722
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Speaker 1: of October Ohio State one that one by thirty one.

723
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Speaker 1: It was a thirty eight to seven final. In that game,

724
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor tailback was held to fifty two yards. This

725
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: was also just the in the early days of Jack

726
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 1: Cone before he turned into Dan Marino. Like we saw

727
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: last week. He was ten of seventeen for one and

728
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: eight yards in touchdown. Meanwhile, JK. Dobbins had a big game,

729
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 1: Chase Young had four sacks. You get the point. They

730
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Speaker 1: won by thirty one. That's just the way these things go.

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Speaker 1: Pretty impressive. Absolutely. My question to you, and something that

732
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Speaker 1: I have been dealing with in trying to break down

733
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Speaker 1: this game, is do we feel that anything significant has

734
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Speaker 1: changed over the last month or so of football that

735
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Speaker 1: would change how you how we feel about Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: About Wisconsin, yes, yeah, I mean they're a little bit

737
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Speaker 2: more beat up on defense.

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Speaker 1: I know they're down their nose tackle. He's been out

739
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 1: since Iowa. He's out for the year. AJ Taylor's beat up.

740
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Speaker 1: I think he's their second leading receiver. I don't know

741
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 1: pass catcher, but receiver. I think a corner is hurt

742
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Speaker 1: who has a terrific name, cat you remember. I think

743
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Speaker 1: it's Rashad wild goose. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love that he's.

744
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: Beat up and so that that has changed. But in

745
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Speaker 2: terms of their actual performance since they played Ohio State,

746
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Speaker 2: they edged Iowa, and that looks better now how Iowa

747
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 2: finished out their season beating Minnesota. Both I guess both

748
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Speaker 2: Iowa and Wisconsin beat Minnesota. Their defense, to me, has

749
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Speaker 2: not looked amazing.

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Speaker 1: Didn't look great against Nebraska, but managed to clean things

751
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Speaker 1: up against Minnesota in that sort of tumultuous weather.

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Speaker 2: So I don't think dramatically. Jack Cone having a nice

753
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Speaker 2: game against Minnesota certainly is a.

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Speaker 1: Plus, but the answer is no.

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Speaker 2: Though the answer they haven't gotten back like a game

756
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Speaker 2: changing receiver. They haven't gotten back three defensive linemen who

757
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 2: can't be can't be blocked, that kind of thing. So no,

758
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Speaker 2: I for better or worse, they seem similar.

759
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Speaker 1: They seem similar. If anything, I think Ohio State's gotten better,

760
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: and no that that's a problem as we enter this matchup.

761
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Speaker 1: The only thing that I would be hanging my hat

762
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Speaker 1: on if I picked Wisconsin to win and or cover,

763
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Speaker 1: to be honest, is the fact that this is a rematch,

764
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Speaker 1: that perhaps there is some familiarity between these two teams. Well,

765
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: the first game was in Columbus, right, it's in Columbus, right,

766
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: so this neutral side, it's in India. I get it

767
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: different atmospherics at play, but it's just that Ohio State

768
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 1: is so good against the run, they're even better against

769
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Speaker 1: the pass. I don't feel like this game is drastically

770
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Speaker 1: different from the first. Maybe Wisconsin gets to fourteen or

771
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Speaker 1: twenty one points somewhere in that neighborhood, but I think

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Speaker 1: Ohio State's like eighteen to twenty one points better here.

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Speaker 1: I still stand by the fact that they're the best

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Speaker 1: team in the country, and I don't see this game

775
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Speaker 1: being that different from what we saw the first time

776
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Speaker 1: they played. Can I ask you a follow up? Please?

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Speaker 1: Would you say the left knee of Justin Fields is

778
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Speaker 1: exactly the same? It is not. Time they play, it

779
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: is not Would you say that Justin Field's mobility in

780
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Speaker 1: terms of scrambling for first downs on third and nine

781
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: or buying himself more time to find an open receiver

782
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Speaker 1: who is popping out of a pretty good Wisconsin defense,

783
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Speaker 1: would you say that helped them the first time? It

784
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Speaker 1: helped them the first time? Sure?

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Speaker 2: Would you say he's probably going to be more limited

786
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Speaker 2: with an mcl sprain in terms of cutting and speed

787
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 2: and changing directions and being able to be the dual

788
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Speaker 2: threat sort of.

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Speaker 1: Was it wunderkind? No German? Sure, gotta go the wunderkind wounderkind?

790
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Speaker 1: Do you think that is altered? I knew he came

791
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Speaker 1: off the bench after his injury against Michigan and threw

792
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Speaker 1: a pass to the back of the end zone off

793
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Speaker 1: the short leg. So no, I think he'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: I don't. He might not be as explosive, and to

795
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Speaker 1: your point, sure, maybe he's not as quite as big

796
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: old knee brace. Yeah, but I think he'll be fine.

797
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: He's fine good enough when he is normally a game

798
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Speaker 1: changer at full health, when you have all of these weapons,

799
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Speaker 1: when you have JK. Dobbins being a bowling ball with eyes.

800
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Speaker 1: Dobbins back there, Thank you, Gus. It's a gus game.

801
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: I think it is a gust game, so beware. But

802
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Speaker 1: I just I don't feel like anything is so drastically different.

803
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: Ohio State has not shown any signs of letting up

804
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: all year. I don't understand why it would start. I'm

805
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: not seeing anything that would tell me it's going to

806
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Speaker 1: start now.

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Speaker 2: So here is another difference. Right leading up to the

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Speaker 2: Wisconsin game. For Ohio State, I believe they had the

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Speaker 2: Northwestern Friday night game leading up to it. You remember

810
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Speaker 2: that one. Yep, sure it's close, close for a few

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Speaker 2: minutes that it was Michigan State, a bye week, Northwestern

812
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Speaker 2: Wisconsin in retrospect, not a terribly challenging lead up leading

813
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Speaker 2: up to this game. Penn State somewhat close, Michigan emotional,

814
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Speaker 2: not super close at the end. But it's a double

815
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Speaker 2: body blow game.

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Speaker 1: Is it? Not? Facing Wisconsin a week after Michigan a

817
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Speaker 1: week after Penn State. You think Ohio State's the best

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Speaker 1: team in the country, and that's fine, I do. I

819
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Speaker 1: think it's significant with another week on the road. They

820
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Speaker 1: were in an arbor last week, a beat up quarterback,

821
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Speaker 1: so you have that let down post rivalry. Not that

822
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Speaker 1: they're not taking this game seriously, but these are all

823
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Speaker 1: human emotions. Maybe the Badgers are peaking.

824
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Speaker 2: A little bit and a little more confident after Jack

825
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 2: Cone showed a sort of different element against a good

826
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Speaker 2: team last week. The good news for Ohio State is

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Speaker 2: Sean Wade, who the corner who missed last week's game

828
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Speaker 2: against Michigan, appears to be The quote is should be ready,

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Speaker 2: so the secondary should be in better shape for Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: I just Wisconsin's gonna need two of the following. They're

831
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Speaker 2: gonna need some sort of fluke slash broken play. Yeah,

832
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Speaker 2: they're gonna need a big return. They're gonna need a

833
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 2: big slash timely turnover. They're gonna need a noticeably immobile

834
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Speaker 2: justin fields. Hope it's not the case, but that would

835
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Speaker 2: certainly help Wisconsin's cause they need no JK. Dobbins run

836
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Speaker 2: to go longer than like fifteen or twenty yards, and

837
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Speaker 2: I have down here they need major carpet and turf

838
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Speaker 2: issues at key moments to really help them out.

839
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Speaker 1: I have.

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Speaker 2: The defense is actually the bigger issue to me, but

841
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Speaker 2: I still have because I think they might be able

842
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Speaker 2: to get one or two of those. Ohio State twenty eight,

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Speaker 2: Wisconsin twenty wow. Yeah, so super dog Saturday for me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I mean fair enough. I understand the logic. Wisconsin's

845
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: defense the last six weeks of the year, HM hasn

846
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Speaker 1: necessarily been much to write home about. Look good last week,

847
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 1: yeah on the ground against Nebraska. Yeah, look good last

848
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Speaker 1: week against Minnesota. But there have been spots across the

849
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: I don't know the second half the season here that

850
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: have left me wondering at points, but I just don't

851
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: think it's drastically different. I'm taking Ohio State minus whatever.

852
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: So we disagree, disagree, and then our final Power five

853
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: Championship game if we could travel back in time, Dan,

854
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: Because this show drops on a Thursday morning, we want

855
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: to give people ample time to listen to the other

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00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: content before we get to the Friday game.

857
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we can listen to our wrongness about Friday

858
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,439
Speaker 2: night as they go to a Saturday game.

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Speaker 1: Save the best for last. Correct. This one is eight pm,

860
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: it is Friday, It is on ABC. It is Utah

861
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 1: at eleven and one, it is Oregon, your Oregon Ducks,

862
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: the defending Red Box Bowl champions Where's my hat? At

863
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 1: ten and two? The point spread here is six, Dan, oh,

864
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: six points.

865
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty low considering the other games that we

866
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 2: have in front of us.

867
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: They still play this one in Santa Clara. Correct, Levi Stadium,

868
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: far as I know, as far as I know, So

869
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: talk to me about this one. How do you feel

870
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 1: as an Oregon fan and alum.

871
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: I'll speak to this both as an organ fan and alum,

872
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 2: and as somebody who has watched the Utah Utes play

873
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 2: football this year. So for Oregon to win this game

874
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:07,240
Speaker 2: after a couple of pretty lousy performances from the offense.

875
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 2: They're fine defensively last year, but their offense has certainly

876
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 2: been a pretty disjointed lot. Justin Herbert has to win

877
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 2: this game. I don't think they can ride the running game.

878
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 2: I don't think they can ride that pistol. I don't

879
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 2: think they can ride counting on those backs. To really

880
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 2: move the chains, they need to play uncharacteristically smart, aggressive,

881
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: and creatively in big moments on both sides of the ball.

882
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 2: We saw them fail the moments on defense, even though

883
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: they it was a pretty good defensive game, they gave

884
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 2: up those big passes to Jaden Daniels and those ASU receivers.

885
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 2: For me, there are just too many ifs about Oregon.

886
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 2: There's too many questions about Oregon and too many answers

887
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 2: about Utah. The big question for me about Utah is

888
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: it's been a nice year to be in the Pac twelve.

889
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: It's been a very nice year to be good in

890
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: the Pac twelve, which I emphatically believe Utah to be.

891
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 2: I don't know how tested they are. They tried to

892
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 2: give away the Washington game in the third quarter with

893
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 2: a couple of turnovers, and they came back like a

894
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 2: good team should and overcame them and won that game.

895
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 2: It was a five point game, but they're up twelve late,

896
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 2: so it was fine. They lost to USC and their

897
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: fourth string quarterback inexcusable the way they lost that game,

898
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 2: Mistakes in the red zone, and just they just didn't

899
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 2: look like themselves. Utah's the better team. Utah has more

900
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 2: ways that they can win this game. Tyler Huntley can

901
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 2: pick up first downs with his legs if everybody's covered

902
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 2: on third and seven. I think Utah's just in a

903
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 2: better space. Their front seven is ridiculous. They get after

904
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 2: the quarterback, they stopped the run, they stopped big plays.

905
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 2: If Oregon has a shot, they're going to need to

906
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 2: go downfield a good amount. And I think it was

907
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 2: Michale Wright who had the one hundred yard kick return

908
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 2: against USC. I talk about cleanliness. I talk about you

909
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 2: needing something plus something plus something. I think Oregon's in

910
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 2: that spot because it's what we're thirteen or they're twelve

911
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 2: games in and you watch their offense and you don't

912
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: have a sense of like, what do we do well

913
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 2: Oregon can That's that question.

914
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: That is my Yeah, that is actually what I've got

915
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: written down here on my show What's Our Bread and Butter.

916
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: I want to know what Oregon does well? Right, And

917
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: we've watched them playing defense pretty well, but offensively, I

918
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: don't know, you've watched him a lot more than I

919
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: have this year, But that that was the question that

920
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: I kept coming back to. If I'm picking Oregon, what

921
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 1: am I truly leaning on? I guess it's Justin Herbert.

922
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert's an incredible talent. He's got moments, of course,

923
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: But what am I leaning on if I'm picking Oregon here?

924
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: And do I value those flashes of brilliance over just

925
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: the utter consistency of Utah so far the season? Right,

926
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: a top ten team both in terms of offense and

927
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: defense according to the sp plus efficiency metrics, which I

928
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: know we both love, and they've just been very consistent Oregon, Dan,

929
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: They've they've almost got a little bit of a half

930
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 1: team complex going on. You just don't know what half

931
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: of the team is going to be better. Yeah, I

932
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: think it's almost like half of their games they look

933
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: really good, right, Like half of the games they look

934
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: like a complete team. We've seen it this year against

935
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: you know, Colorado and USC teams like that, and other

936
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: times you don't know what you know. Sometimes it's on execution,

937
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: sometimes it's on play calling. Sometimes it's on the stubborn

938
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: elements of how the offense is built.

939
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 2: And here here's the I guess good news. If you're

940
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 2: an Oregon fan, it should be a pretty mucked up

941
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 2: game weatherwise.

942
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 1: Oh, we got a rain game, don't we. We've got rained.

943
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: Give that to me. Give it to me.

944
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 2: I would grab the under if you're a betting sort, Okay,

945
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 2: in a wind game, I think it's in the fifties. Uh,

946
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 2: the over under is where it's set right now. If

947
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 2: you toss favor by about six and a half. That

948
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 2: means they see it as what like my quick math,

949
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 2: like a thirty to twenty four ish type games.

950
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 1: Twenty eight twenty three is what I have written down.

951
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 2: Okay, So that would it's right around in a where

952
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 2: the is right now. But I think Utah wins this

953
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 2: game by thirteen points, and I just it's something like

954
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 2: I don't know, twenty seven, fourteen, thirty to seventeen, I

955
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 2: don't know. But I would hit that under, and I

956
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 2: feel good enough about Utah both covering and the under

957
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 2: that that's just a double barrel lock for me.

958
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 1: Really, you want me to lock it up? Yes? Please?

959
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: Look of the Week? Wow?

960
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 2: Okay, is this the biggest game in Utah football history?

961
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 2: Probably they beat Alabama in the Sugar Bowl. That's not

962
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 2: insignificant to play in the Sugar Bowl against that type

963
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 2: of legacy, crazy program. But for Utah to have an

964
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 2: opportunity to waltz into the elite of the elite of

965
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 2: the sports, I think this is the biggest game in

966
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 2: program history. This is their Titanium super Bowl.

967
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna do. Think they're gonna walk into

968
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: the playoff. I just think they're flat out better. I've

969
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: been stumping for Utah for a while now. Yeah, I

970
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: think they're a good team. I am very curious to

971
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 1: see if, because this game is on ABC, we get

972
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: some sort of like sidebar conversation about Utah. It's got

973
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: Paul Fine Bamb's comments on their bulletin board in the

974
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: little I saw that America doesn't want Utah in the playoff. Whatever,

975
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: Paul right, I got twenty eight twenty three. I think

976
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 1: win game Rain game maybe kind of close, but Utah

977
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: is better. I think they win. I think they get in.

978
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 2: If you are going to this game as a Utah

979
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 2: fan or as an Organ fan, one, bring like a

980
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 2: poncho of some kind, maybe long underwear. Two you might

981
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 2: be staying in San Francisco Del Popolo for pizza very

982
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 2: very good. And number three if you're staying in San

983
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 2: Jose Mexico Bakery for an incredible torta.

984
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: We've got five group of five championship games that we

985
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: need to get through here very quickly. If we want

986
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: to be thorough, We've got Sun Belt. It's funny how

987
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: that works out. There are five group of five games

988
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 1: crazy in the sun Belt. We've got Louisiana at ten

989
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: and two. We've got app State at eleven and one.

990
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: It's at high noon on Saturday. App State one. This

991
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: one by ten back in the beginning of October. They

992
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: are a six point favorite. Here, Dan, who you got?

993
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: Ragon Cagen's run the hell out of the ball. App

994
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: State gives up some big runs, so I'm gonna stick

995
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: with super Dog Saturday. Ragion Cagen's Louisiana by a touchdown

996
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: in boone. I've got app State, But I think it's close.

997
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: I think it's a field goal the Mountaineers. Let's go

998
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: to the MAC Championship Game. Also at high noon, it

999
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 1: is Miami, Ohio. At seven and five. It is Central

1000
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 1: Michigan at eight and four. Central Michigan is a seven

1001
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: point favorite. This is the first time these teams have

1002
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: played all year, Dan, Who you got?

1003
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,439
Speaker 2: You can throw on Central Michigan, but I don't see

1004
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: Miami being able to. I've watched them some during some

1005
00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: action action. They beat up on a lot of terrible teams.

1006
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:01,240
Speaker 2: So did Central Michigan.

1007
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: Uh, I'm gonna go Mac in the MAC Championship Chips

1008
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: by ten. I'm with you. I'm with you. Conference USA

1009
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: Championship Game. It is at one thirty on Saturday. It

1010
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: is UAB the Dragons. At nine and three, it is

1011
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: FAU the Owls Owl also at nine and three. The

1012
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 1: Fighting Kiffins are a seven and a half point favorite. Dan.

1013
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: They did not play during the regular season. Who you Got?

1014
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna take FAU. I don't think the

1015
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 2: Blazers are gonna be able to keep up, so I'm

1016
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 2: gonna take the Owls by ten, especially since pretty good

1017
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:36,720
Speaker 2: defense for Lane Kiffin and Boca.

1018
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: They do, don't they? Yeah, And it could be his

1019
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: going away party, could be if he decides or if

1020
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: he's offered another job. So I'm with you. I like

1021
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: Fau by ten to fourteen points somewhere in that rain v. Fau, Yes,

1022
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: excuse me. American Athletic Conference Championship Game, three p thirty

1023
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: on Saturday. It is Cincinnati at ten and two. It

1024
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: is Memphis at eleven and one. They played last week, Dan,

1025
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: they played just last week. They played just last week Memphis,

1026
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: very same place, Well, very same place. Memphis won that

1027
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: game by ten points, thirty four to twenty four. Well,

1028
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: and behold the point spread here is nine in the rematch, Dan,

1029
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: who you got? I think there's something super back and

1030
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: forth about Cincinnati going to Memphis coming back. It's in

1031
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 1: a long trip, but I'm gonna take Memphis here by

1032
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,240
Speaker 1: a couple of touchdowns. I don't trust the Cincinnati offense.

1033
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:29,959
Speaker 1: Even though it's tough to beat a team two weeks

1034
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: in a row comfortably, I still think Memphis is that

1035
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,439
Speaker 1: much better on offense. Cincinnati will get stops, but it's

1036
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: just it's gonna it's gonna wear on them. I think

1037
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: I got Memphis by two touchdowns. I think a point

1038
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: that you raised last week is the important one, and

1039
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 1: that's when they made us switch a quarterback. They made

1040
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: a switch a quarterback, but just on the whole. Cincinnati's

1041
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 1: offense has been sneaky terrible all year. Yeah, decent enough defense,

1042
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: but not as good as they were a year ago.

1043
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: And Memphis is really good on offense. Scoreman absolutely. And finally,

1044
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: the Mountain West Championship game four pm. It is Hawaii

1045
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: at nine to four. It is Boise State at eleven

1046
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: and one. The Broncos are a fourteen point favorite. These

1047
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: two teams did play back in mid October. Boise won

1048
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 1: that game by a fifty nine to thirty seven margin, Dan.

1049
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 2: You got fifty nine? Would you say fifty nine and

1050
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 2: thirty seven? Twenty two points? Yep, it's a lot of points.

1051
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 2: Great half team in Hawaii. Those offense is great and

1052
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 2: their defense can be a nightmare. I Boise was actually

1053
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 2: pretty lucky to win at Colorado State, and I guess

1054
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 2: what turned out to be Mike Bobo's final game. I'm

1055
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 2: expecting big things from Boise's terrific freshman running back George

1056
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 2: Halani so I have another twenty point or forty four

1057
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 2: to twenty four.

1058
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: Boise.

1059
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 2: That is all I have in the way, except for

1060
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 2: you have one other matchup, which you insist is bigger.

1061
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, baby, let's do it. I don't have a

1062
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: sound for this. I have all I played December to remember.

1063
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's time works. It sort of takes the

1064
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 1: steam out of this matchup. But it's at high noon.

1065
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: It is the number four Muhlenberg Mules, located right here

1066
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: in good old Allentown, Pennsylvania. Division three. It is the

1067
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: number sixth rank Salisbury Seagulls, a team that was their

1068
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: seafaring Team of the Week a couple of weeks ago. Yes,

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Speaker 1: they are squaring off in the Division three quarter finals.

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Speaker 2: Dan Muhlenberg undefeated, the Mules undefeated. How far are you

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Speaker 2: from Muhlenberg.

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Speaker 1: I used to be five minutes from Ulenberg. Oh okay.

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Speaker 1: They beat by the way. They beat Mit in the

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Speaker 1: first round of the tournament, and I think they won

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Speaker 1: forty two to nothing. Last week they did.

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Speaker 2: They took down the the Broxies of Brockport forty two nail.

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Speaker 2: They have not let up a point, no, not a

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Speaker 2: loot of point in the tournament, so some would say

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Speaker 2: some would.

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Speaker 1: Say a team of destiny. But here's where I'm going

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Speaker 1: with this. Friend of the show and participant in our

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Speaker 1: DC Live show, one Tim Murray, who's on NBC Sports Network.

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Speaker 1: I know you've been on Tim Show a bunch of times, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think so. He is named Muhlenberg Alump, and he

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Speaker 1: also an athlete, former athlete, and also lives close enough

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Speaker 1: to where this game is taking place. So I was

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Speaker 1: talking to him today and I'm trying to get him

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Speaker 1: to pack up the wife and the kids, throw him

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Speaker 1: in the car, make the short jaunt down to Salisbury.

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Speaker 1: Did you're on your alma mater? He refused? Tailgateing he refuses.

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Speaker 1: He said it's going to be cold, So I think

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Speaker 1: we should do it not so secret verbal and encourage

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Speaker 1: him as only for ballers can to go and watch

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Speaker 1: his Muhlenberg mules. Just tweet at him and say, what

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Speaker 1: kind of man is scared of seagulls? Go watch some

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Speaker 1: football coward? You don't have to do the left part

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Speaker 1: one the numeral one one Tim Murray t I M

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Speaker 1: m U R R A Y the number one Tim

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Speaker 1: Murray on Twitter. Yeah, what kind of man is scared

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Speaker 1: of seagulls. That's all.

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Speaker 2: I got to go watch some football. Comma coward, That's

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Speaker 2: all I have as well. I know he listens to

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Speaker 2: the show, so he's going to hear that. But just

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Speaker 2: encourage him to have a great time. He as a

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Speaker 2: young child. Everybody can go have a great time with

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Speaker 2: some were they D three?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Sure, D three football? Come on, make it happens done

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Speaker 2: all right? I have time, cleanliness, serotonin, shampoo, whatever you need.

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Speaker 1: Whatever you need, savor the flavor, what you ever? Do?

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Speaker 1: You have a lock? My lock is Ohio State. Oh okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm walking up Ohio State. It has been a pleasure

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Speaker 1: doing these previous shows with you all season, Dan, Are

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Speaker 1: you breaking up with me? Not yet? Okay. We will

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Speaker 1: be back on Sunday to recap all of this action

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Speaker 1: and much much more. Perhaps there will be other coaching

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Speaker 1: news breaking in the college football sphere. If it does,

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Speaker 1: we will be with you on Sunday to discuss it.

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Speaker 1: We'll also be with you on Tuesday. La Florida State

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Speaker 1: will name a coach by the end of the weekend.

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Speaker 1: They claim they want to. They claim they wanted to

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Speaker 1: before the end of November, but that didn't quite work out.

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Speaker 2: Could mean that it's somebody involved in a conference championship game.

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Speaker 2: Could be Mike Norvel, could be Mike Norvell involved in

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Speaker 2: a conference championship could be one of the Clemson co

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Speaker 2: offensive coordinators.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we will have to wait and see. We thank

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Speaker 1: you again for downloading the show, for subscribing to the show,

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Speaker 1: for being such a willing participant in our madness here

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Speaker 1: on the solid verbal until we talk again on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Thanks again. Enjoy your weekend and stay solid. Peace.