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Speaker 1: So before and again, I would like to say thank

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Speaker 1: We've been kicking before the episode started, and I really

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Speaker 1: thank you so much. You're welcome. So to my guests,

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Speaker 1: how are you feeling? How you doing? I am feeling good.

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Speaker 1: I'm still recovering from partying in New York last week,

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Speaker 1: but uh, I am doing fantastic. It's a beautiful sunny

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Speaker 1: was just telling her I was like keeping in New York,

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Speaker 1: just living the life, living my best life. Man, and

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Speaker 1: that's some some other fun ladies and we just had

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Speaker 1: a ball. How has the pandemic been treating you in

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Speaker 1: your business? You know, it's really interesting and I'm going

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Speaker 1: to be very very honest here. UM it has been

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Speaker 1: having a very very hard time, and like it's almost

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Speaker 1: like the pandemic like made my life even better. And

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Speaker 1: it's like the cards that were dealt and they just

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Speaker 1: not the putos that are not familiar with the word escort?

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Speaker 1: And I don't know hot pocket. I got about hot

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Speaker 1: fault how they were raised. You were a child, You

427
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 1: cannot control your environment. You were you had no control

428
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 1: over how you were born and what life, what life

429
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: hand you were dealt with. And it's it's unfair for

430
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: people to kind of say that you grew up and

431
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: you became a sex worker because you have daddy issues.

432
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: So you know, they think that we have all these

433
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: issues and that we just we're just so you know,

434
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 1: we're destitute and we just had no other options. And

435
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 1: while that is true for some women, I'm not going

436
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: to say that all the women out there had my

437
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: background where I'm college educated, I worked in corporate. I

438
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: just have mental health issues where I was like fuck this,

439
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 1: I'm like on mood stabilizers because I need to function

440
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: to work with people that I fucking hate and America,

441
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: it will do it to you. And one day I

442
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 1: woke up and I was like, wait a minute, I

443
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: am taking pharmaceutical medications and I don't enjoy taking drugs.

444
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 1: I do believe in science. I love science, and I

445
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: think science has really been, like, you know, the reason

446
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: why we can live so long today. So I'm not

447
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: against medicine at all, but I do feel that our

448
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: society has become too dependent on medicine to fix all

449
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: of our problems. So I'm a I'm a vegan, I

450
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: eat healthy, I eat whole food, plant base, um. So

451
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 1: I take my health very serious. And one day I

452
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 1: woke up and I was like, Okay, you're putting these

453
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: chemicals in your body to function with people that you

454
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: don't like. Why are you doing this? Because you're afraid

455
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: that this is your only way to succeed in life.

456
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: So I was like, you know what, I'm one of

457
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: those people that I succeed best when my back is

458
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: up against the wall. So I just kind of woke

459
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: up one day and I was like, I'm gonna go

460
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 1: fuck equip my job. And that's what I did. I

461
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: did not give a two weeks notice. Everybody's like, why

462
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 1: would you do that? You're you know you it's not

463
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: gonna look good in corporate I go, I'm doing it

464
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,239
Speaker 1: because that's going to force me to succeed in in

465
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: a different way. That's how I know that I'm gonna

466
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to succeed because I just my corporate life.

467
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: I have no choice. So that is what I did.

468
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: And so when when I first started, I used to uh,

469
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: I used to get the emails and stuff from the

470
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: religious organizations trying to save me. And well, so they

471
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: go to escort sites, they go to our advertising sites,

472
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,479
Speaker 1: and they email us and then they you know, offer us,

473
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: you know, we can help you find a job. The

474
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: last time somebody emailed me, I can't remember the organization

475
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: it was, but it was one of those, um, one

476
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: of those really dangerous Christian organizations that I do not

477
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: approve of. There's nothing wrong with helping people if they

478
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: don't want to be in this job, but it was

479
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: more of like they were pushing their religion than actually

480
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: wanting to help people. So in that aspect, go funk off. Um.

481
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: But the last time somebody emailed me, I was like, listen,

482
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: I go, do you have a job where I can

483
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: make And I think at the time, my reads are

484
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: like four hundred an hour? As I do have a

485
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: job that will pay me four hundred dollars an hour

486
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: where I'll have lots of free time. Right, She was

487
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: like no, I go, then what the funk are you

488
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: doing emailing me? Like? Leave me alone. I'm not a

489
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: nice person. When you come and force your religion on me.

490
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: I don't care what people think about me. I didn't

491
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: ask for your input. I didn't ask for your help,

492
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: So go funk off, right. So the fact that a

493
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: lot of people think that you know so many of us,

494
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: and even even escorts sort of sex workers in general,

495
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: who aren't college educated, that doesn't mean they're not they're stupid.

496
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean they're stupid. It doesn't mean that they

497
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: didn't have any other choices in life. If you asked me,

498
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: I wasn't smart enough, because I should have started this

499
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: ship when I was eighteen or at least twenty. At

500
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: least twenty, I should have started this a long time ago,

501
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: because I mean it was like something that I kind

502
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: of knew that I would end up doing, Like I

503
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: felt myself gravitating toward. Um just I got the nickname

504
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: in high school and Nicole Smith m HM, and people

505
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: just always assumed that I was going to marry a

506
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: really wealthy old man m and they would call me

507
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: a gold digger. That's when people I've been calling gold

508
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: diggers since I was in high school. I don't know why,

509
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: but this is the title that I've always been given,

510
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: so I knew eventually that I would end up doing it.

511
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: But I did grow up religious, so I was trying

512
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: to fight the urges of, like, you know, wanting to

513
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: live that life. I was trying to, you know, do

514
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: everything that you know that was respectable according to society.

515
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: And I look back on that and I'm like, girl,

516
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: you really hindered yourself, because you know, I could have

517
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: started so long ago and I would have been even

518
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: better off than I am right now. So I find

519
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: myself I wasn't smart enough to overcome that. Were you

520
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: nervous in the beginning or did you have someone to

521
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: like coach you? I was very nervous in the beginning. Um,

522
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: I did have somebody that did help me. Unfortunately. UM,

523
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: the things that she she did, I would not recommend

524
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: to anyone else. She was what you would call an upseller,

525
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: where she advertise at a really low rate and that

526
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: was just her price to show up. It was like

527
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: the fine print in the on the advertising. So she

528
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: would charge you like two just to show up, and

529
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: then she would try to get more money out of you.

530
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: She was a you know, a pretty blonde white girl.

531
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: She could get away with that kind of stuff. As

532
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: a black woman, we can't do that. And I did

533
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: not know that at first. I did not know that.

534
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: I thought like, Okay, this is this is what people do.

535
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: This is a business. I didn't know anything else about

536
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: the business except for what I saw in TV. And

537
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I think I can do this.

538
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: And you know, like so many others, I thought, you know,

539
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: it was about looks. She was like, oh, you're beautiful.

540
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: You could make so much money. And I'm like, okay, yeah,

541
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: let's do this. And then I we went out on

542
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,959
Speaker 1: a double date the first time, and I was like, okay,

543
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: I can do this. And then I tried to do

544
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: it on my own and they were like no. I

545
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: was like what. I was like, huh. And I mean

546
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: this guy not that I'm saying like he was like

547
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: gonna like abuse me or anything, but the I just

548
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm a very UM. I have high emotional intelligence. So

549
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: I'm really good at reading facial expressions even like yeah,

550
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: well even like minute facial expressions that people wouldn't think

551
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: that they that somebody else would notice. Right, So any

552
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: sort of like change and just even like a slight

553
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: eyebrow raised kind of thing, UM, I pick up on

554
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: like the very very minute things, and I just saw

555
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: like the I mean even his pupils dilated just a

556
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: little bit, just and I'm just like, oh, ship, this

557
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: man like might kill me or something. And I mean

558
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: he wasn't. He was a very nice man, but at

559
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: that moment, I was scared because I did not know

560
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: what he was going to do. I was like, oh, fuck,

561
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: Like this man thinks I'm trying to rip him off.

562
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: You know, I'm already black, so he probably thinks I'm

563
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: a thief. He probably thinks I have a tenth outside

564
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: because everybody thinks. Everybody thinks that we have pimps outside waiting.

565
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, oh yeah, okay, Like no, don't

566
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: worry about it. You're right, That's what I had advertised.

567
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: I forgot, you know. And so from that moment on,

568
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 1: I went home and I was like, man, I don't

569
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: ever want to be put in that situation again. So

570
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: I told her, like, bitch, what the fund did you

571
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: have me? Just do right? Okay, But that's what she

572
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: had been doing for years. She had been doing that

573
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: for years and it worked very well for her. So

574
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: I went home and I was like, Okay, what is

575
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: the amount? That you would be willing to do X,

576
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: Y and Z, Like what is the rate that you

577
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: would be like, okay, I can I don't mind going

578
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: for an hour, and I don't need to ask him

579
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: for more money. So I decided that four D would

580
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: be that much. And so that's where I came up

581
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: with my rate, and you change I'm pretty sure you

582
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: changed her rate like every so often. UM. I mean

583
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: there was one time where I felt like I wasn't

584
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: getting enough, I wasn't getting enough appointments, so I dropped

585
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: my rate to three hundred. Um. And then you know,

586
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: if you look at sex work Twitter, people always seem

587
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: to find some sort of shame and dropping your rates.

588
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: I had no shame in that. Um. I'm like, these

589
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: bitches are not paying my bills, so I don't care

590
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: what they think of me. UM. So I did that

591
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: for a little bit. But then you know, somebody did

592
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: tell me that there is a difference in the clientele

593
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: between like the three hundred and you know higher and

594
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: four hundred. It was like four in was like in

595
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: the middle where like the clients who would pay more,

596
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: we're not going to book me. But then I was

597
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: like too high for the cheaper clients. So when I

598
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: went down at three hundred, I got a bunch of

599
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 1: clients that I hated. So I was like, my only

600
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: choice is to hustle my ass off stacks in cash

601
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: and then raise my rates. And I went from I

602
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: went back to four hundred and then set there for

603
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: a little bit, and then I went to five where

604
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: I am right now. Okay, So that's the difference between

605
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: the sugar daddy and the clients that you meet. So traditionally,

606
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: now today with all the disgusting sugar sites, traditionally a

607
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: sugar daddy would be a wealthier man that would like

608
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: to take care of a woman. Um, it's not just

609
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: about the sex. It's not by the hour, it's not

610
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: by the day. Um. Usually they're giving you a monthly allowance.

611
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 1: You're pretty much a kept girlfriend, right, That would be

612
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: the traditional um and today UM, it's more these guys

613
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: who were looking for a monthly arrangement UM usually much

614
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: much lower amount than what you can get escorting. UM,

615
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: and sex is very much the only important part for

616
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: most of them. UM. And you know a lot of you, well,

617
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: a lot of sugar babies, will you know, they're not

618
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: wanting to admit that their sex workers yet, so they'll

619
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, it's not about the sex.

620
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: We don't always have sex. And I'm like, that's that's

621
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: really cute for you to tell that to vanilla people.

622
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: You can't you can't say that so seasoned veteran, you

623
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: just can't write like, we all know that these these

624
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: guys are not going to keep paying you monthly to

625
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: not fuck you. It's just not a thing, now, is

626
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: it out there? Sure, maybe a really older man, um

627
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 1: if his penis doesn't work and he just wants the company. Sure,

628
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: but that's not that's not the norm. It's just not

629
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: enough of those guys out there to make up for

630
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: you know what today's world of sugar dating looks like. Um,

631
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: but usually it's supposed to be. They're not paying by

632
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: the day, they're paying by the month, and then you

633
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: just kind of agree on how much time you want

634
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: to spend together. So they're not paying like if you

635
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: want to go if they want to go out to

636
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: dinner with you, like let's say tomorrow night, right, they're

637
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: not going to pay you for four hours or even

638
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 1: if it's a set chunk of time. They're not paying

639
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: you for that date, they're paying you for the month,

640
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: and then you guys spend as much time together as

641
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: usually that he can because you know, usually they're married

642
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: or working or something. And then escorting. We're very much

643
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: about our time. Our time is money. We charged by

644
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,959
Speaker 1: the hour, or even if we have like a packaged rate,

645
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 1: it is very much that you're not going over that.

646
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: If you are, you need to be paying us extra.

647
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: Like when we say one hour, we mean one fucking hour.

648
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: If we're saying overnight, our overnight is from seven to

649
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: seven or whatever time that two people agree upon. There's

650
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: no you know, there's no like set time that you

651
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: have to do it. But how does that weren't so

652
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 1: when the time is up, you're just like, okay, time

653
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: is up, and you out. Well, it's funny because clients

654
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: know it. So it's it's not like a weird thing

655
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: where it's like, okay, time's up and you just start running.

656
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: You just pack your shirt and run. Um. You know,

657
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: we just kind of know when time is starting to

658
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: wind down. Uh, you know, we start you know, kind

659
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: of moseying on, you know, picking the clothes up off

660
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: the floor, you know, go maybe grab a shower or

661
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: you know, finish up a conversation. You know, we I

662
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: usually spend about a good five minute saying goodbye to clients.

663
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,240
Speaker 1: You know, It's not like you know something where time's

664
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 1: up and you know you give them the boot. It's

665
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 1: it's it's very natural. And I mean sometimes it's awkward

666
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: for like maybe a first time client or a first

667
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: time escort, but otherwise it's it's pretty natural. You have

668
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: clocks around. Usually the good clients were a watch because

669
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: they want to They're respectful of your time. Um, you know,

670
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: they you know, just kind of keep checking the time,

671
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: and you know, it's kind of when one of us

672
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: starts to motion, like if I if I feel like

673
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: I have had clients but where we're if I kept talking,

674
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: they were not going to fucking stop me. So I

675
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: had to learn fast like okay, like you know, I

676
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: don't want them to feel rushed, But at the same time, like, um,

677
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: I might not have shipped to do, but my brain

678
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: turns off at the end of this hour. Even if

679
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: I sit on the couch and I'm you know, finishing

680
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: the wine, or I'm gonna turn on TV and you know,

681
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 1: watch wrestling, I don't care it's nine o'clock, it's time

682
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 1: for you to go. So you know, I started learning.

683
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: You know, if I just you know, kind of put

684
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: on my robe, that kind of signals that we're getting

685
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 1: ready to end. And so yeah, so it's pretty natural.

686
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: I think. Um, one thing I noticed about you and

687
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 1: others several other women that's in this field is y'all

688
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 1: high to have faces on social media? So are they

689
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: are there like pros and consts showing your face online?

690
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: So that all depends. So I have friends that show

691
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: their face and then I have friends that don't. Um,

692
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: it's just a comfort level. Um. There are a lot

693
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: of women who actually have careers outside of escorting. Yeah,

694
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 1: corporate careers where if somebody were to find out it

695
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: would ruin their life. I know of people who were married, um,

696
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: where sometimes a husband does not know that their moonlighting.

697
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: Sometimes a husband does know that they're in escort. And

698
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily that, UM, you know that they're they're

699
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: not necessary having from your husband or any shame in it.

700
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: But you know, sometimes you don't want to be at

701
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: the PTA meeting. And I mean a lot of the

702
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: dads are on these escort sites like so I don't

703
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: know why people act like they're not that their husbands

704
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: are so innocent, even if they've never booked an escort.

705
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: I know a lot of guys that just browsed because

706
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: one day they might consider it. And you don't want

707
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: that guy to see you at the PTA meeting and

708
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: then go tell his other friends, and then you have.

709
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: All you need is that one guy who goes back

710
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: to tell his to tell his wife that everything and

711
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, can you believe that Susie

712
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: found on an escort website. Now, me, as a wife,

713
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: I would be like, what the funk were you doing

714
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: on the escort works? Right? Oh? Well, I heard from

715
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: so and so and you know. And that's the kind

716
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: of thing that a lot of women are trying to

717
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: prevent because society is still has very ill feelings towards

718
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: women doing their own thing and making their own money.

719
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: They really do. So a lot of women just do

720
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: not want the drama, and they want to save their careers.

721
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: They want to save their children from being embarrassed. Um

722
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: In my situation, I kind of am like, I don't

723
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: want anybody to like even though my mom knows, I

724
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: still want to respect her and my siblings. Um My,

725
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: my sister has a really good career. My brother is

726
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: UM and the Armed Forces. So I'm like, I don't

727
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: want it somebody to go back and you know, and

728
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: it becomes a problem with their jobs, Like oh, I

729
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: saw so and So's daughter. I know that, you know

730
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 1: she's an escort, and I know my mom. My mom

731
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 1: would be like, yeah, have you checked your bank account lately?

732
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: Like I don't give a funk what you guys think.

733
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: But I still don't want my mom to have to

734
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: be just to defend me, right like I can, Like

735
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: those are my choices as an adult. I don't want

736
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: my mom having to be put in a position to

737
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: defend me. So that's why I keep my face covered.

738
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 1: But I don't actually really care, Like what is somebody

739
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: going to do with my information? Be like oh I

740
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 1: know her real name? Like okay, great, you want to

741
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: pay my student loans? You know? Like I like, I

742
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: don't understand, Like what exactly is your point? You know? Right?

743
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: So I know's like I know, like dudes and don't

744
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: when it come to the book and then escort, Oh,

745
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: there's so many um do read her? What site? Read

746
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 1: it in its entirety? And I know sometimes our websites

747
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: can be lengthy, but that's not our fault. We do

748
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 1: that for seo purposes. Um. But you know, my best

749
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: clients they have always read my website. And so when

750
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: they show up to a date with my favorite bottle

751
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: of wine that they we did not discuss prior, I

752
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: know that they read my website. Um, So do read

753
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 1: the website. Do be constant of your time. Do make

754
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: sure that you have good hygiene, make sure, you know,

755
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: make sure you're flossing regularly, make sure you're going to

756
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: get your dental check ups. Um, you know, just make

757
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: sure you're in good health. You know, even like not

758
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: even just like oral hygiene. But you know, I've heard

759
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: many stories where people don't wash properly. Somebody posted on

760
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: some one of the other day that they had a

761
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: client that didn't that was like not washing his penis

762
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: and he had like a permanent year in smell. Like

763
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: what the like that's the kind of stuff like you

764
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: need to to make like those are the biggest Like dudes,

765
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: do wash properly. Um, you know, make sure that your

766
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: skin isn't you know, you look like, don't look like

767
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: you have rashes all over your skin. And I know

768
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: that there are certain skin conditions, you know, but there

769
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: are just some people who just do not take care

770
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: of themselves. And and I don't think. I don't care

771
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: what level of an escort, prostitute, paid companion. I don't

772
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: care what name you want to call him, from fifty

773
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 1: dollars to a thousand an hour. I don't care. Wash

774
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: your balls, brush your teeth, pearl. Just because somebody has

775
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: a lower rate does not mean that they deserve to

776
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: be disrespected like that. Like it's not just the higher

777
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: rate women that deserve, you know, the pristine men. Every

778
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: man should. I don't give a funk if you met

779
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: the girl and tender wash your damn ball balls, wash

780
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: your asks. Yeah, so wash your ass, don't use your

781
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: hand or just the bar. So get that washcloth and

782
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: leather it up real good, and get in between those cheeks.

783
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: Get lift up, lift up the ball sack and wash.

784
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: Get that taint area and scrub it, and then wash

785
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: your penis and then wash your cubes around it. You know,

786
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: when you're brushing your teeth, get that tongue scraper out,

787
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: scrub your tongue like no woman should ever, or I

788
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 1: shouldn't just say woman because we're you know, there are

789
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: many different kinds of sex workers, but no provider, no escort.

790
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: I don't care what their price ranges. Nobody deserves to

791
00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: be an intimate situation with somebody that is funk. It

792
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: is disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself. Have you

793
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: ever had a situation like that? Yes, And I was like,

794
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: go in the shower, like you know, and I have

795
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: guys who are like I've had a guy where like

796
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: it's obviously he keeps himself clean. But it's like, you know,

797
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 1: sometimes I live in Florida and you could start sweating

798
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: from just walking from your car to my door, like

799
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: it is a thing you will You're like, you will

800
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: sweat just from being in your car. Even though you

801
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: have the air conditioning fully blasting, you could still sweat

802
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: just from having it is. It's just it hits different,

803
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: It hits your balls different. It just does. And you know,

804
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, they walk in and it's

805
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: like hey, like you know you want to freshen up,

806
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,439
Speaker 1: Like oh no, I took a shower before I left,

807
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, that's great, it's summer. Like I

808
00:47:53,920 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 1: don't want to smell sweat anything you know, so I

809
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 1: haven't had it where it was just like so bad,

810
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: you know, like like of other stories that I've heard, Right,

811
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: But you know, I think we have all had this situation.

812
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: I mean even with guys that are like you know,

813
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: c Eos clean cut. You know, they may have gone

814
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: to lunch and had garlic and didn't realize it and

815
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, don't eat the garlic before you come

816
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: meet us. Like we're not on. We don't have that

817
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: kind of relationship where I want to taste garlic on

818
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: your breath. Like you know, it's different like you know,

819
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: back in the past, like when I had a boyfriend

820
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: or something. Sure, but you know, I don't know you

821
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: like that. I don't want to. I don't want to

822
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: taste your garlic on your breath. Let's say the boyfriends.

823
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: Can't you date and have a serious relationship? Why why dying?

824
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 1: Is can I personally? In the past I have said no, Um,

825
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: the only way that I can date in doing this

826
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: is if he can financially afford to take care of me.

827
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: And then I want to do this because I want

828
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: to have something to do. That's the only way I

829
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:18,959
Speaker 1: can do it. Otherwise, if you cannot financially afford to

830
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: take care of me, then I don't understand why we're

831
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: dating now. I do know plenty of women who date

832
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 1: who are married in the business and their husband knows

833
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: and very supportive, and that is wonderful that works for them.

834
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: So I so when I say this next bit, this

835
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 1: is nothing against people who it does work for, but

836
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: with me and my mentality. For me, I feel like

837
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: he's almost like my pimp and whatever I do for

838
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: my money, Like if I'm going to keep escorting and

839
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: you're my man, you cannot financially benefit off of me.

840
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: At I don't want to pay off the bills. I

841
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: don't want to pay ship unless it's for myself. If

842
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: I want to do it for myself, then fine, But

843
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: he cannot financially benefit off me in any sort of

844
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 1: way because it doesn't work with me and my mental

845
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: state of mind, because I feel like at that moment,

846
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: I feel like he's my pen But I know other

847
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: people who are in successful marriages and I wish that

848
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: I could have that, but it doesn't work for me.

849
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: It does not personally work for me. One thing that

850
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: I like about you when I was on your website,

851
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: I know that you do tours and I was like, oh, ship,

852
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: this is about how cool it is because you charge

853
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: one nonrefundable deposits and I don't know, Yeah, it's like

854
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: she's not playing with these niggas well, many of us

855
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 1: do and this is not uncommon, right we have so

856
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 1: like in the past, it became a problem because guys

857
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: I love to reach out to several women and then

858
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: basically whoever responds first, you know, they'll they'll like put

859
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: a few different women on the back burner and then

860
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: you know, if if their first choice shows up, then

861
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: they'll either no call, no show, or cancel at the

862
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: last minute. And that's very bad behavior. I will say

863
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: there was there's probably a reason that happened, because like

864
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,479
Speaker 1: the girl that I the girl that I um that

865
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: you know, got me started in the business, the upseller,

866
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: she was forever when her phone and rings, she would

867
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 1: accept all the bookings and she would you know, stack

868
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 1: as many as she can. She would either show up

869
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: late or not at all. And so I kind of

870
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: started to understand why some guys would put women on

871
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: the you know, have different selections. So if this one

872
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: didn't show up, another one would. I kind of get it.

873
00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: That's a personal problem, not my problem. Um, it's terrible

874
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: to do if somebody doesn't show up, Okay, you know

875
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: that sucks for them, it really does. But when it

876
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: comes to me, I have set aside this time. I

877
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: spend time getting ready, I have to drive. I don't

878
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: have any children, so I don't, you know, I don't

879
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: have to worry about, you know, getting a babysitter. But

880
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,720
Speaker 1: there are other people who have children who have paid

881
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: and arranged a babysitter to go meet you. They can't

882
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: be having you decline on them and being like, oh sorry,

883
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 1: it's not gonna work out. It is rude and it's

884
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: not respectful of their time. So many of us do

885
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: charge deposits because I'm like, listen, I don't you know,

886
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: during my day, I don't know what the funk I

887
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: do all days sometimes, But I mean, like, like right now,

888
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: I'm very busy. I am in the middle of um

889
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: decorating my new home while overseeing the construction on my

890
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: old on dough So I have a lot going on.

891
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: And then I you know, I still have a social life.

892
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: I have my family and my friends. Um, and you know,

893
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,720
Speaker 1: some days I just want to just not do ship

894
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: and lounge in the pool. And so when I wake

895
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: up in the morning, I like to wake up knowing

896
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: that if I'm not doing anything, like if I'm like today,

897
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna relax. I want to make sure that

898
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: I do not want you to interrupt me doing nothing.

899
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 1: So I like to wake up in the morning knowing that, hey,

900
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 1: I have to get up and I have to function today,

901
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: because it really does when I like in my mind

902
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: when I wake up, I'm like, I know you have

903
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: you know, you have something to do today. Get up today.

904
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: I have an interview with you. So but it was,

905
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: you know, at one o'clock. So I woke up like

906
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: around ten and thirty, sat on the phone with my

907
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: friends and we talk business and um, I have a

908
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 1: group chat where, you know, we all discussed businesses, we

909
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: goal set, you know, we do all sorts of things.

910
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I'm cool with that because You're

911
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: my only thing that I have right today. Right, I'm

912
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: taking today. I'll my mom's coming to visit me tomorrow,

913
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: so I'm you know, I'm getting everything set up for

914
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: my mom. So, yeah, I'm not working today, so I'm

915
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: mosey around a bit. You know, I'm like, I'm still

916
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: I'm like sitting here talking to you in my lingerie.

917
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: But if I know that I have I have a

918
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: date this evening, Like let's say I had a six

919
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: pm happy hour date or whatever, I know that, like

920
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,240
Speaker 1: I need to get this this and this is done.

921
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: I need to like I need to be in you

922
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: can cut that out. I know that I need to

923
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: be in my escort mindset by three pm to be

924
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: in the game, to be at my best when I

925
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 1: arrived at that six pm date. Like you know, so

926
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,439
Speaker 1: when I when I start getting ready for a date,

927
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: I'm not just getting like I'm not just getting dressed.

928
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: I'm getting mentally prepared. You know. I'm in the mirror.

929
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 1: I'm just like, yeah, you got this, you know. I'm like,

930
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of review the information that he

931
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: used for screening. Um. If well, UM on my website,

932
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: I have my screening protocols, and if they do not

933
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: want to answer any of the questions, I'm like, hey,

934
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: thanks for the interests, but we're not going to work out. Um.

935
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 1: That's just it's it's as simple as that. But I

936
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: cannot go into detail. Um, how I screen and I

937
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 1: recommend that other ladies do not do that publicly because

938
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: it keeps us safe to have our back channels. UM,

939
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: it keeps us safe, not only from predators who I mean,

940
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: you have guys who are blacklisted to the fucking moon

941
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: and back, and they just keep changing their information so

942
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: they can't be tracked down. So the reason we care

943
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: a lot of it secret is so that you know,

944
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: when guys change their information, they can be easily identified,

945
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: and then we can let other ladies know. I mean,

946
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: one of the most and when I say famous and

947
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: famous and like you know, escort world is what was

948
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: his nickname, Joey the player I believe up in I

949
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 1: think Jersey he had. He had a long history of

950
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: getting escorts in and he would physically assault them, he

951
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: would rob them. I mean, this guy was dangerous and

952
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: it took years for him to finally be arrested because

953
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: people don't give a funk about escorts. So and then

954
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 1: a lot of ladies are terrified to come forward because

955
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: of you know, they're afraid that they're now going to

956
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: be watched. So totally understandable. It is a scary world

957
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: out here, especially when society does not respect does um,

958
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 1: but that this is why we screen, and then we

959
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: also want to make sure that we're not set up

960
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: for stings. So not um So, I mean, of course

961
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: anybody can go on my website and see the information

962
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: that I asked for, but what I do with that

963
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: information as far as like checking it out that I

964
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: don't tell the public because I don't want the cops,

965
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: you know, trying to infiltrate my screening. They can go

966
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: funk off. Okay. So here's the thing. Escorting is a

967
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: green area. Um when it comes to setting up the stings.

968
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: I don't know how other states work. I know how

969
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: Florida works in Florida, especially in Hillsboro and Polk County

970
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: and Orange County. So this is like, um, central Florida

971
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: down to you know, to the West coast. Um. When

972
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: they set up stings, they don't give a fuck what

973
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: you're doing. They don't care that you're an escort in

974
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: charge for your time. They are going to arrest you,

975
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: They are going to charge you with prostitution. They are

976
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: going to put your mug shot all over the news

977
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: as part of this, you know, escort ring, child trafficking ring.

978
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: Like they love to just make up the most sensationalized

979
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: bullshit to say why they arrested grown adults for fucking nothing. Now,

980
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: of course, as any arrest, you're innocent until proven guilty.

981
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: They have to prove that you came there to exchange

982
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: sex for money. I don't want to go through the

983
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: legal system period. Even if I could beat the charges,

984
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: you have now wasted my time and money that I

985
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: can't get back. So for that reason, I don't want

986
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: to be arrested. Even if escorting isn't illegal, I don't

987
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: want to be in that circle of bullshit because it's

988
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: I mean, not only is your name everywhere, I mean

989
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: now you have to change Now, you have to change

990
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: identities because your real name is out there and they, oh,

991
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: they love to um to have your real name out

992
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: there with your escort name. They I've seen it happen

993
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: to other escorts before, and I think, I think it's

994
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 1: pretty fucking terrible and it does endanger our lives because

995
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: when you when you are arrested and it's public record

996
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: that somebody can go look it up there your addresses

997
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: on file. You know, now you have to be like

998
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: worried if you're going to have a stalker client. It's

999
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: gonna that's you know, that's gonna find your address and

1000
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: stop you. Like, it becomes very, very very dangerous, especially

1001
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: for women when we are caught up in something like that.

1002
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: So even though escorting is technically not illegal, it's not

1003
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: something that you want to you want to get caught in.

1004
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: Of course. Have you ever had a bad feeling about client?

1005
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, many times, Um, and I have bad feelings

1006
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: about clients just from them submitting their screening information and

1007
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: I just don't see them THEU I have one time

1008
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: I had a bad feeling about a client in person.

1009
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 1: This is several This is a couple of years ago. Um.

1010
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: We've gone on one date. Everything was fine. He calls

1011
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: me back for a second date and he oh, wait, no,

1012
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: you know, he booked me for like multiple hours. This

1013
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: is what it was. He booked me for multiple hours.

1014
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: And everything was fine in the beginning of the date,

1015
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: and at the end of the date he tried to

1016
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: get me to, uh, to do He tried to offer

1017
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: me more money to do unprotected services, and I just

1018
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: looked at him. I was like, oh, I'm sorry, I

1019
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: don't do that. And at that moment, his entire fucking

1020
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: demeanor change and I was just like, well, fuck, so,

1021
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, you go into survival mode. And he started

1022
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: trying to you know, fuse information. You don't want to

1023
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 1: like come off combative because I mean, this guy, I'm

1024
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: only five feet tall. I'm a very tiny woman. Um

1025
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: at this time, you know, not not with my COVID

1026
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 1: you know, couple pounds I put on. But at the

1027
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: time of this incident, I was five feet tall, like

1028
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: a hundred twelve pounds. I was tiny. This guy was

1029
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 1: like well over six ft tall, large guy. And I

1030
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I know my odds of like, you know,

1031
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: pissing him off, it's not going to go well for me.

1032
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: So I just really diffused the situation. Um. I now,

1033
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: I did not give in now that I was not

1034
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: going to do. I did not give in to his

1035
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: unprotected services. But I smooth things over enough to get

1036
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 1: the funk out. So um. And then when he tried

1037
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 1: to book me again, he was like, oh, you know,

1038
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 1: I'd like to see you again, blah blah blah, and

1039
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, okay, and you know, my mind

1040
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 1: like not going to see him and um, and he

1041
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: was like but you know, then he tried to offer

1042
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: at that time, can we you know, go unprotected. I

1043
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: can't remember how he phrased it, but that was the

1044
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 1: gist of it. And I was like, yeah, no, and

1045
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: he was like, okay, well I'll get back in touch

1046
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: with you, you know, with my schedule. And so then

1047
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: you know, of course, I already knew I was going

1048
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: to see him, but I wanted to play this game

1049
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 1: with him to see how long this is going to

1050
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: go on. So like three more times he tried to

1051
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: schedule with me, and every time he would say, you know,

1052
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: I would like to do it this way this time,

1053
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: and every time I would say no, it was always

1054
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: like okay, well I'll get back to you with my schedule.

1055
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 1: So of course he ended up on the black list.

1056
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: But that was that was a bad feeling that I had.

1057
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: And one other time where I was really new, um,

1058
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 1: I didn't know any better I had. I didn't get

1059
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 1: a deposit. I had driven all the way out to

1060
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 1: Sara Soda and I get there. I was running a

1061
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 1: few minutes late because I got stuck in the toll line,

1062
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 1: and I told the guy like, hey, I'm going to

1063
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 1: be a few minutes later. I get there in the

1064
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: parking lot of the hotel, and he's like, sorry, I'm canceling.

1065
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 1: You were late, and I'm like, you knew I was late,

1066
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: and I was like literally like five minutes late, and

1067
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what, fuck you, and

1068
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 1: so I just drove off and then like not even

1069
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 1: five minutes later, Okay, I changed my mind, you can

1070
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 1: come back. And I was like, oh my god, me

1071
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 1: getting stuck in his hole. I have no fucking doubt

1072
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: in my mind that I avoided this thing. I avoided

1073
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: this thing because it was just it was just the

1074
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: way that he was because that's what they do, right.

1075
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 1: They get as many women as possible to come, and

1076
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: they you know, of course, if you show up on time,

1077
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 1: they want you to show up on time because you

1078
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 1: know that you know, they get the women in out

1079
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 1: in another room before you know, they take them all

1080
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: in together. And I still to as they believed that

1081
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: it was a thing that I avoided getting stuck in

1082
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 1: the tolls. But this was also I was like maybe

1083
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 1: a month in and I didn't know um as much

1084
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 1: about screening as I do now. UM, But now I'm

1085
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:16,439
Speaker 1: just overly paranoid. So if I even have any sort

1086
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: of doubt in my mind, I'll just be like, you know, oh,

1087
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I don't think I'll be able to

1088
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 1: make it. I turned them down nicely, but if I

1089
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: have any doubt, I'm just I fucking run for the hills.

1090
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 1: No money is worth it. I that's my motto. So

1091
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: where are you at now? Are you in a space

1092
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 1: where you can say if you finally made it? Oh

1093
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 1: for sure? For sure? Um, I I'm not concerned. Like

1094
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 1: when I first started, Like I said, I quit my

1095
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 1: corporate job so um, and you know I was only

1096
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 1: what three years in out of college, so I was

1097
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: still paying student loans. Um. You know, I was living

1098
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 1: by myself. I've never had roommates, so I did not

1099
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: I did not have a savings. I am not embarrassed

1100
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 1: to say it. I did not grow up wealthy. I

1101
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: grew up with a single mother and you know, she

1102
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 1: did the best that she could to provide for us.

1103
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 1: But I did not, you know, leave college, you know,

1104
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: with any sort of savings at all. I have worked

1105
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 1: my ass off since I was fourteen. I bought I

1106
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 1: bought my condo when I was twenty and so you know,

1107
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: I was paying grown up bills in college. So I

1108
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: did not have a savings when I just up and

1109
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 1: quit my job. I did not. I think I may

1110
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 1: have had like maybe like a thousand dollars that was

1111
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 1: about it. But that's not much of a savings for

1112
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 1: a rainy day, right, So, um so back then it

1113
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 1: did hurt if I wasn't working every day or if

1114
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: I had no prospects coming in. It was very very stressful.

1115
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: I mean I was like around the clock, like you know,

1116
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: constantly checking the ads, like phone attached to my hip.

1117
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: I did not, like I did not go to sleep

1118
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 1: with my phone and do not disturb. I was always like,

1119
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,959
Speaker 1: you know, I was hustling. I literally was. I tried

1120
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 1: to take every call that I could because at any moment,

1121
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 1: if you know, if I went like days without working

1122
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: and it's like I don't know when I'm you know,

1123
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: I don't know when I'm going to get work again,

1124
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 1: that's a very very scary feeling when you're living month

1125
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 1: to month. I would get my bills paid at the

1126
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 1: beginning of the month, and then it was like, all right,

1127
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 1: time to get hustling so I can get the bills

1128
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 1: for the next month. And that is a it's a

1129
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 1: vicious cycle that it's hard to get out of and

1130
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 1: all you need. Like one time, like, oh my god,

1131
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 1: M I needed new tires in my car, and I am.

1132
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 1: I love my sports cars. And even though my car

1133
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: wasn't you know, anything really fancy or expensive, it still

1134
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 1: was considered a sports car. And I had low profile tires.

1135
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 1: So getting new tires I was like, fuck, twelve hundred

1136
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 1: dollars and tires. You know, that was really stressful. And

1137
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 1: I didn't have a choice but to do it because

1138
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 1: my vehicle is how I work, so you know, and

1139
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 1: a setback like that when you don't really have savings

1140
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 1: it is, it is so stressful. So now, um, well,

1141
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 1: of course I can say that I made it. Now.

1142
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm moved to a gated community. I live

1143
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 1: in a nice home. Now, I have a condo that

1144
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 1: I'm renovating so that I could lease it out to

1145
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 1: somebody else. Um, I and not stressed if I didn't

1146
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 1: get any work this month, I'm fine. You know, I'm

1147
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 1: not stressed out anymore. Um. Thanks to Mr M. I

1148
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 1: got an upgrade in a car. Y on it. I

1149
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 1: got to upgrade in a car. Oh you know, I

1150
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 1: will say I have not addressed this, but word got

1151
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 1: back to me that, um, that there's this blog where

1152
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 1: like escorts talked about other escorts, and somebody told me,

1153
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 1: um that I finally made this blog and they did

1154
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: not believe that Mr m got this car for me,

1155
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 1: that they believe that they believe I got it myself.

1156
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 1: And I go, well, why would I lie about getting

1157
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 1: a car myself? Because if I could, if I could

1158
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 1: still afford the car, that means that I'm in a

1159
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 1: financial position to do it, right. I'm like, so, well, yeah,

1160
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 1: it's a fucking Mercedes. It's a it's a two seater Mercedes.

1161
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 1: It's like almost sixty thou dollar car. I was I

1162
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 1: actually was saving up to get this car for myself.

1163
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 1: I really was, like, I don't know why I wouldn't

1164
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 1: be proud of being able to afford this car on

1165
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 1: my own. I would be damn proud. I sure, it's

1166
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 1: how I am. Like. I mean, you're black. You know

1167
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 1: what it was like growing up black? Black parents do

1168
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 1: not believe in fucking Santa Claus. They were they worked

1169
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:56,679
Speaker 1: too damn hard to give the credit to the jolly

1170
01:08:56,920 --> 01:09:00,839
Speaker 1: old fat man at Christmas. To be like, oh, Santa

1171
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 1: Claus gave this to that is not something that black

1172
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 1: parents believed it. I was raised. I am not giving

1173
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: anybody else the credit where credit isn't due. I worked

1174
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 1: my ass off. If I got this car my own,

1175
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 1: you damn right, I would be proud of it. I would,

1176
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: But I did not. He got the car. I don't

1177
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 1: know why any I don't know why anybody would think

1178
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 1: I was lying. Like he literally like he went, He

1179
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 1: did all the you know, he did everything he asked me.

1180
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 1: Now I will say it wasn't like a complete surprise.

1181
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 1: We talked about it because he knows me. He wanted

1182
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 1: to make sure I got what I wanted. So, you know,

1183
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 1: he asked me, you know, what color do you want?

1184
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 1: All that stuff? But he did everything. He showed up

1185
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 1: at my condo with this car and we went to

1186
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 1: dinner in it, like I mean, I like, he picked

1187
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 1: it up from a dealership and drove it to me.

1188
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 1: You know, so we're I mean. And and when I

1189
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 1: say him as a client, this isn't a client that

1190
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 1: booked me once or twice and was like, here's a

1191
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 1: brand new car. I have never even led anybody onto

1192
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 1: believing that's a thing. He has been my client for

1193
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 1: two years and we're very close and Um, I mean

1194
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 1: he's my he's my he's my benefactor at this point.

1195
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, I have made it a part in my

1196
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 1: career where he is like my basically at this point,

1197
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 1: he could be my only client. I don't have to work.

1198
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 1: I really don't. He could be my only client, but

1199
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 1: I still like to work. So you know, thanks Mr

1200
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 1: Im for the upgrading lifestyle. I'm not, like, I don't

1201
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 1: even know why anybody would think I'd be ashamed to

1202
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 1: fucking admit that. So, yes, have I made it? And

1203
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 1: do I feel like I'm at a point in my

1204
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 1: career where I can say I've made it? Yes, I

1205
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 1: actually am, and a point in my career where I

1206
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 1: can say I have made it because I don't actually

1207
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 1: have to work and I'm not embarrassed about that. So

1208
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 1: what's next for you? Like, how long do you think

1209
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 1: you're gonna be doing this? Oh? Well, you know, even

1210
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 1: if I'm not seeing clients in person, I will always

1211
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:20,759
Speaker 1: have some sort of foot in the sex work world.

1212
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 1: I just can't leave it. I mean, the past five

1213
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:29,679
Speaker 1: years my life has changed tremendously because of the signe

1214
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 1: of work, because of people that I've met. Um, it's

1215
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 1: just everything I just do not see myself leaving it. Um.

1216
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 1: If you know at the time Mr m wants to

1217
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 1: go exclusive, I'm totally fine with that. And but I

1218
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 1: will always have I will always be doing something. I

1219
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 1: don't think I can just not work. Um. So even

1220
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:56,640
Speaker 1: if I'm not seeing clients in persons, I mean, I

1221
01:11:56,680 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 1: have only fans, you know, UM, I have other I

1222
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 1: have other things that I'd love to do, UM that

1223
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 1: you know, that's outside of seeing people in person. So

1224
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 1: it's it will never be like just the end of

1225
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 1: end of me. And I also saw that you're a meshmaker, right,

1226
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, so I'm like, okay, I see him.

1227
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 1: So here's this thing like this is this is brand new.

1228
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 1: I actually never really mentioned it except for when I

1229
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:31,640
Speaker 1: was searching for other sugar babies. So I have this,

1230
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 1: um this and when I say client, this is a

1231
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 1: guy that I actually met in my city life. I

1232
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: met him. I was out with some friends one night

1233
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 1: and he was having a party and he was like, um,

1234
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 1: he had a female friend come over and she's like, hey,

1235
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 1: you know, my boss thinks you guys are really hot.

1236
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 1: Would you like to come back to our penthouse and

1237
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 1: party and I've always been one of those people. I'm

1238
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 1: always well, yeah, that sounds like a good fucking time.

1239
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 1: Of course, I want to go party at your penthouse.

1240
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 1: Whereas my friends are like, we don't know you. I'm like,

1241
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk. I want to have fun.

1242
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 1: So they're like, okay, cool, we have a limo here,

1243
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 1: you know, stretch limo. You guys can ride with us

1244
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 1: and you know, we'll uber you back to your car,

1245
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 1: you know, whenever you're ready to leave. I'm like, dude,

1246
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:23,599
Speaker 1: this is this is up my alley, like this this man.

1247
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:26,680
Speaker 1: I was like, this man is speaking my language and

1248
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 1: he doesn't even know he's speaking my language yet. So um.

1249
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 1: So he's a pretty wealthy man, um, and he's he's

1250
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 1: used to his friends, like you know, hiring strippers and

1251
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So he's never like booked an escort.

1252
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 1: So he did not know that I was an escort. Um. So,

1253
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 1: long story short, he comes to town. You know, he's

1254
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 1: not from Florida. He comes to town on business, and

1255
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,799
Speaker 1: he would always you know, we would always see each other. Um.

1256
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 1: When we got to that point, I was avoiding him

1257
01:13:58,120 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: for a very long time, and then one day he goes,

1258
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 1: I think, I know what you're about. I can make this,

1259
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:07,720
Speaker 1: you know, mutually beneficial. And I go, oh, yeah, how beneficial.

1260
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 1: And he threw out a number and I was like, yeah, okay, cool,

1261
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 1: let's go to dinner. So every time we come to town,

1262
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 1: we'd always go to dinner and just have a good time,

1263
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 1: and you know, we just like really formed a relationship.

1264
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 1: And um, I want to say this has been about

1265
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 1: five years now. I was very early in my career

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Speaker 1: when I met him. Um, And so he actually lives

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Speaker 1: in New York, so that is why I was in

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01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 1: New York. He was like, hey, I know, you know,

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01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 1: you're kind of you know, your life isn't as busy

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Speaker 1: as it was. You know, you're not traveling as much. Um.

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Speaker 1: He's like, I would really like to find somebody here

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01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 1: in New York that I can meet, you know when

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01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm in the city working. And I was like, yeah, okay,

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01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 1: I can find somebody for you. And but he's you know,

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01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 1: really really private, so he did not want to have

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01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 1: to go through the screening. I mean when I say

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01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 1: this man is private, like I did not know his

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01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 1: information for a while. I kind of found it out

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01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 1: on my own and so he was like, hey, I

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01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 1: really need to remain private. So he flew me to

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01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 1: New York to introduce him to other women. So that

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01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 1: is why I was there. I can see you. I

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01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 1: just see you, like having like a class. It was

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01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,640
Speaker 1: so it was so funny and strange, but you know

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01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 1: this is actually it's it's quite normal for my life.

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01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 1: So he flew me up there. I had you know,

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01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 1: I've found you know, I've put my post on Twitter.

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01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 1: Women reached out to me. Um. He was I will

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01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:45,839
Speaker 1: say he was not interested in an escort. Um. Well,

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01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:48,599
Speaker 1: when I say escort, he wasn't interested in a by

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01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:52,639
Speaker 1: the hour date. Um. So my job was to find

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01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 1: him in this price range somebody, and so I did.

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Speaker 1: I found somebody. For like each day that I was there,

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Speaker 1: and I was there, we went to dinner together. He

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01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 1: and I were at dinner and she the you know,

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01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 1: the person that was lined up for the day would

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01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,679
Speaker 1: come join us at dinner. They would meet at dinner

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01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 1: and everything. And I got some amazing women that I

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01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 1: was that I was able to meet and they liked him.

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01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 1: And then you know, once I made that introduction, I

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01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:27,679
Speaker 1: was out of the picture, like I have nothing to do.

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01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 1: So I was happy that he was able to find

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01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 1: some ladies. When he's in New York and needs a companion,

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01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 1: he can reach out to them. I was very very

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01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 1: happy to be able to make that introduction. And um,

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01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 1: and somehow right at the same time, I had a guy.

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01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 1: I have a guy right now in Dallas. UM. I

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01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 1: pulled him from when I did webcam. I pulled him

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01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 1: off a webcam and was like, hey, why don't you

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01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 1: fly me to Dallas and you know, I'm available, you

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01:16:57,479 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 1: know for the weekend, you know kind of thing I

1312
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 1: hustle is as. So that was also in my first year.

1313
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 1: Like listen, I was all about my money that first year.

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01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 1: So I got him and my first year, like I

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01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 1: was flying back and forth to Dallas. He can't be

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01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 1: visit me in Tampa. I spent a week with him

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01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 1: in London, like, you know, we have really cool relationship.

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01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:19,640
Speaker 1: So he too is like, you know, I would like

1319
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 1: to be able to find somebody in Dallas and I'm like, dude,

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01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 1: what is with this? Like this like this is literally

1321
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: like two weeks apart. I have another guy and then

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01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 1: their friends are like the you know, the guy in

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01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 1: New York. He um, he has friends who are also

1324
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 1: like they like to see other women, and you know,

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01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 1: they don't really want their information on the internet. And

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01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I need to know the friends. Like

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01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 1: I'm not introducing you introducing you know, my friends and

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01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 1: somebody that I don't know about them, Like, that's not

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01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 1: how that's gonna work. However, if I know them, like

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01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:54,719
Speaker 1: I know this guy, I know that I can vouch

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01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 1: for this guy. He like he and the guy in Dallas, like,

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01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 1: they're like, you know, two guys that I felt comfortable

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01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 1: using my name for it that is, I mean, I

1334
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 1: do not take that lightly. I do not just like

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01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 1: give clients my name be like oh yeah, no problem.

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01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:13,879
Speaker 1: I'd be like, nope, you need to follow her screening protocol.

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01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 1: But this guy, I was like, well, I'm there in person,

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01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 1: so that would make them feel safer, and they did,

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01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 1: and we had a great time together. A couple of

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01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 1: the girls came back for a dinner before I left

1341
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 1: with him. You know, we had dinner and had a

1342
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 1: good drunken night back in my hotel room with you know,

1343
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 1: KARRYO doing some impromptu karaoke. But I was I was

1344
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 1: really happy that that not only I was able to

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01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 1: find somebody for my client. But I was also able

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01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 1: to get another provider a good you know, a good

1347
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 1: income and not that they not that they were like

1348
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 1: hurting and needed income. But I mean, if you have

1349
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 1: a guy that's going to be coming back, you know,

1350
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 1: you the regulars is how we survived. So it worked

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01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 1: out for them. So I was happy to be able

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01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 1: to match the two. And then you know, a couple

1353
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 1: of the other girls were, um, you know, he didn't.

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01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 1: I mean I had actually did have a lot of

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01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:20,720
Speaker 1: girls message me too. I don't want to use the

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01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 1: word apply, but for lack of a better word, I

1357
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 1: had a lot of girls apply, and so a lot

1358
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 1: of them you know, did not get selected. I only

1359
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 1: had so many openings. Um, but they were like, oh,

1360
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:35,720
Speaker 1: if you have this opportunity again, let me know. And

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01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 1: then I had another girl, I know, I had another

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01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 1: girl in Tampa that was like like, dude, like you

1363
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 1: should fucking do this, And I was like, I mean,

1364
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 1: if people want me to do it, I'll do it.

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01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 1: If if if the people want it, I will make

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01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 1: it happen. I don't have a problem with that. But

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01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:58,600
Speaker 1: that is that is how I have become a matchmaker

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01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 1: and then and Mr m Is sitting here like, you know,

1369
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 1: I'm messaging the girls like I'm about to dinner with Mrman.

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01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 1: He's just like so fascinated and this whole thing. He's

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01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 1: like what like like this is crazy. A guy is

1372
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 1: like paying you for this, And I'm like yeah, like

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01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 1: you know, um, oh no, no, no, no, I don't

1374
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 1: charge women. I will absolutely I refuse. I will not.

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01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: I do not. Oh nope, I do not. This is

1376
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 1: not an agency. I want to make that very clear.

1377
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 1: I am not trying to have like an escort agency.

1378
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 1: I am only making I am only making introductions. That

1379
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 1: is it. Because I'm not trying to be flagged for trafficking.

1380
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 1: I am only making an introduction. I don't take any

1381
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 1: money from the woman. I just make the introduction, like, hey,

1382
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 1: he is looking for this, would you like to meet

1383
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 1: him under these circumstances. If she says yes, I will

1384
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 1: make the introduction and once I leave, you know, um,

1385
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 1: you know, to keep his information private. You know, he

1386
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 1: did tell me the girls that he wanted, you know,

1387
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 1: to meet again. He was like, hey, I would like

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01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 1: their phone number, and at that time I would give

1389
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 1: you know the phone number. Otherwise both parties. You know,

1390
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 1: we only coordinated a dinner between me after they exchanged

1391
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 1: phone numbers. I am out of it. I don't get

1392
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 1: any further money from him. I don't get any money

1393
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 1: from the woman from the beginning. Nothing. This is just

1394
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 1: me literally matchmaking. This is not undercover agency kind of thing.

1395
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 1: It was purely matchmaking. And I had a lot of

1396
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 1: fun doing it. I really did. I can tell. I

1397
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:45,720
Speaker 1: can tell it was fun. Now I don't want to

1398
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 1: do it for eight days again. I drink way too much.

1399
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 1: I drink way too much. But he knows any time,

1400
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 1: and so you know, he wants He's like, hey, I

1401
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 1: would love you know, I have friends that come into

1402
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 1: town all the time. I would love to do this again.

1403
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 1: And I was like, hey, I am always available. Well

1404
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 1: last one not least. What is an advice you would

1405
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 1: give to the listeners that might want to be a

1406
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:17,559
Speaker 1: part of this lifestyle. Oh my, My first and biggest

1407
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 1: piece of advice is are you mentally prepared? Mm hmm.

1408
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 1: That is the biggest because if you come, I mean,

1409
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 1: this is a lifestyle, it is sink or swim. You

1410
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 1: were fed to the sharks, and if you don't come

1411
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 1: out of the gate, ready, you will you will drown

1412
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 1: fast and and sometimes drowning does not It's not pretty.

1413
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 1: I mean, you can end up with the wrong quient.

1414
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 1: You could be arrested. I mean, just so many things

1415
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 1: could happen. Be mentally prepared, Do as much research as

1416
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 1: you can. Back when I first started, there was not

1417
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 1: much out there. Today there are all sorts of podcasts,

1418
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 1: there are books, um. I mean, there are people who

1419
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:05,680
Speaker 1: offer mentorship, although I would say be careful with the mentorship. Um.

1420
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:09,640
Speaker 1: Not everybody is good at being mentors. They can you know,

1421
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 1: they look successful, Um I do. I have heard of

1422
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 1: people who are successful because their mentors, not because they're

1423
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 1: you know, they're actually successful escorting. They're just really good

1424
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 1: at painted the picture, the picture on Instagram. They saw

1425
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 1: mentorships and that's how they're funding their lifestyle. So be

1426
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 1: careful with that. Otherwise, be mentally prepared, and then once

1427
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 1: you're ready, be as close to your authentic self as possible,

1428
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 1: because that's the only way that you'll have longevity is

1429
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 1: being yourself, because being yourself is what makes you happy,

1430
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 1: and it's what makes you unique. There's only there's only

1431
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:53,639
Speaker 1: so many you know, picture perfect, you know, I only

1432
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:57,800
Speaker 1: you know, go to brunch and eat caviare escorts that

1433
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 1: there can be you know, do do something different be you.

1434
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing wrong with enjoying those things. I

1435
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 1: don't eat caviar, but I do enjoy champagne brunch. I

1436
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 1: do enjoy lots of things that you know, that's that

1437
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 1: would be stereotypical escorting. Um, I enjoy all of those stereotypes.

1438
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 1: But I also you know again, I also enjoy going

1439
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 1: to metal shows. I enjoy, you know, having hiking dates.

1440
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 1: You know, make that make that your thing. Apparently that

1441
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 1: became my be that that became my thing this year,

1442
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 1: and I had to start telling clients like, you do

1443
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 1: know that I can I'm capable of doing other things

1444
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 1: in hiking, right, Like I went on too many hiking dates.

1445
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't do any more hiking and

1446
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 1: all it all started with the one photo of my

1447
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 1: ass in the mountains. I became the hiking escort. But

1448
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 1: I mean, and there are other escorts that do that too,

1449
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying like I'm the only one or

1450
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 1: I invented it, of course, not of course, not like

1451
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 1: it's all had been done, but for right, like nobody's

1452
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 1: inventing any new kind of dates. It's all been done before.

1453
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 1: But if that's your thing, advertise your thing. If you

1454
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 1: love basketball, fucking advertise that you love basketball. I've gone

1455
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 1: to a basketball game before, and basketball is not even

1456
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,640
Speaker 1: my thing. I enjoy activities. But you know, my point is,

1457
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 1: do what makes you happy and not necessarily what you

1458
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 1: think is going to get you booked, because that's what

1459
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 1: gets the repeats. I can honestly say that even though

1460
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 1: this might have been my longest conversation I have with

1461
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:45,919
Speaker 1: a guest, you have been one of my favorite guests

1462
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 1: so far, but I have enjoyed you. Like I said,

1463
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:55,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna definitely keep you posted with some things that

1464
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,400
Speaker 1: I'm working on because I love your energy. I think

1465
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 1: you're very informative, very cool, very like a girl. I

1466
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:04,679
Speaker 1: really enjoy speaking with you, and I think my looking

1467
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:07,760
Speaker 1: to you going really enjoying this conversation that we had.

1468
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:10,600
Speaker 1: Oh I certainly hope they do. So if you have

1469
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 1: any questions, comments, concerns, if you want to know more

1470
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 1: about my guests, please make sure to email me at

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01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 1: Hello at the PhD podcast dot com. And until next time,

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01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 1: hopefully next time you're in New York. We can link up.

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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, I did not know that you were in

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Speaker 1: New York. I know I was like she in New York,

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Speaker 1: but I was doing like if I knew. If I

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Speaker 1: knew you were in New York, I would have been like, girl,

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Speaker 1: let's do much because my days were like wide open,

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Speaker 1: so I was kind of doing whatever during the day

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Speaker 1: and then at night I had my dinners. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: next time I am in New York, I will definitely

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Speaker 1: look you up. Yes, please, you have my number, have

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Speaker 1: my email address, so please, when you are back in

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Speaker 1: New York, hit me up and thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: You're welcome, and as always, keep it sexy. Okay later Hi,