1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:01,480 Speaker 1: Welcome you. 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 2: It's been a quiet winter for Yankees fans, but today 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 2: we are firing up the hot stove with legendary baseball 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: reporter Ken Rosenthal. We're going to talk about the Yankees' 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 2: quest for pitching, perhaps even Freddie Peralta. We're going to 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: talk about the stalemate that exists between the Yankees and 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: Cody Bellinger. Coming up next, this is Pinstripe Territory. 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: Wanted to talk at Zoel. 9 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: That's kind of going all right, Welcome back, everybody, and 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 2: welcome to my friend and friend of the show and 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 2: friend of the network, host of Fair Territory, and legendary 12 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 2: baseball writer Ken Rosenthal. Ken, how's your winter going? 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: Oh, it's going just grand Derek, How are you doing well? 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. There are worse jobs to have. 15 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 2: I could be tarring a road. But it's a tough 16 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 2: winter to be a Yankees' podcaster because there's not a 17 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 2: lot to talk about. It's been kind of slow. I 18 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: think fans are getting frustrated, but it hasn't just been 19 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: the Yankees that have been slow. All of baseball seems 20 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: to be kind of moving at a galacial pace right now. 21 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: What do you make of this. 22 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what to make of it, actually, Derek, 23 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: and it seems we have this issue every couple of 24 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: off seasons, or so maybe really every off season if 25 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: you think about it. But I looked up the other 26 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: day and the Athletic has a big board of the 27 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: top fifty free agents. Top three are still unsigned, Tucker, Bregman, Bischett, 28 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: six of the nine are still unsigned, twenty of the 29 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: top fifty. So there's no question there is still a 30 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: lot of unfinished business in the sport. And then the 31 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: question becomes, well, why is this? And there are probably 32 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: a combination of reasons why. I wrote today about how 33 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: the luxury tax might be slowing down some teams at 34 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: the top, the ones that would get penalized the most. 35 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,279 Speaker 1: But honestly, I don't think that is the main reason. 36 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: And I don't think the lockout is the main reason either, 37 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: the potential for a lockout at the end of this season, 38 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: because one, we don't know that that lockout is actually 39 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: going to happen in terms of missing the lockout is 40 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: going to happen. There will be a lockout December first, 41 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: you can bank on that. The question then becomes, though, 42 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: will they actually eat into the schedule, and I don't 43 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: know that that's the case. And even if they do, 44 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: is it a month that they miss or is it 45 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: a whole season. I seriously doubt this sport is going 46 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: to take a full step back and miss a whole 47 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: season when right now it has momentum for the first 48 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: time in quite a while. So I'm not exactly sure. 49 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: But it's just the nature of the baseball calendar. There 50 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: are no signing deadlines, there are no trade deadlines in 51 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: the winter, and teams and agents stare each other down. 52 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: Teams and other teams stare each other down and wait 53 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: for the best possible deals, and we get these endless delays. 54 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 2: So just a quick opinion, do you think baseball would 55 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 2: benefit for more of like a signing period, kind of 56 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: like to have other sports. I think that would be 57 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: super fun. 58 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: I do too. And the Union's position on this, Derek 59 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: has always been, we don't want any restriction on the 60 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,119 Speaker 1: open market, so we don't want a date where free 61 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: agents have to sign by because we think the clubs 62 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: will manipulate that. Okay, I can see the argument, even 63 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: if I don't necessarily agree with it, But how about 64 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: a trade deadline at the end of the winter meetings. 65 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: So then you have an actual exciting winter meetings for sure, 66 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: not just a couple of signings here or there and 67 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: a couple of trades. You have a frenzy, and then 68 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: at that point the free agent market remains open and 69 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: you have at least some things that have gotten done. 70 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: I don't know why anyone would oppose that. Baseball has 71 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: not adopted it. And the problem we get in collective 72 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: bargaining negotiations, Derek, is that both sides are so focused 73 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: on the financial end of things they don't get to 74 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: these kinds of things which are actually important. So I 75 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: don't know. I think the sport would benefit from that 76 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: kind of deadline. Even if the Union is opposed to 77 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: a free agent signing deadline, at least put something in 78 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: there about aids and how you can only make trades 79 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: until whatever December fifteenth. 80 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: That would be fun. I want to talk about the 81 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: Yankees quiet Winter. This is a Yankee show, after all, 82 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 2: and you know I've been watching the Yankees since roughly 83 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety two religiously. You know, I've maybe missed a 84 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: handful of games, and I stay dialed in all winter. 85 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: I'm one of these people that stays up till midnight 86 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 2: during the winter meetings or one o'clock in the morning, 87 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: waiting for news to break, waiting for that tweet from 88 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: Ken Rosenthal. But this has been kind of a slow winter. 89 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: I got to go see Marty Supremes three hours long, 90 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 2: and I didn't worry at all about missing any Yankees news. 91 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: So what do you make of kind of how cautious 92 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 2: the Yankees seem to be, you know, approaching this winter, 93 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: And do you make anything of sort of the the 94 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: comments from hal Steinbrenner about maybe, you know, profit versus revenue, 95 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: Are they having any kind of financial troubles or could 96 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 2: they go out and sign somebody if they wanted to. 97 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: I am sure they are not having financial troubles now 98 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: are they having financial restrictions imposed by the That could 99 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: be the case. And certainly they are not done yet. 100 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: And anyone who thinks they're done is kidding themselves. And 101 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: while the pace obviously is frustrating, not just for Yankee fans, 102 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: but for cub fans, for a lot of teams that 103 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: are still not really doing much at the same time, 104 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: none of this can be judged until the winter is over, 105 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: and really until opening day until we see what the 106 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: rosters look like. So I still expect the Yankees to 107 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,559 Speaker 1: be focused on Bellinger as they have been all winter, 108 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: and right now it's a staring match with Boris the 109 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: agent and Cody himself, and we'll see how that goes. Now, 110 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: my question is, and I think I raised this on 111 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: one of the shows recently, Fair or Foul Territory, what 112 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: happens if Bellinger signs elsewhere? Then, in my opinion, you 113 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: have a problem if you're not interested in signing Kyle 114 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: Tucker and giving him a massive contract. So that's a 115 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: problem that is yet to really arise, because the Bellinger 116 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: thing is ongoing, and their search for a starting pitcher 117 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: that continues as well. And again, who has been traded 118 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: of consequence so far that the Yankees have wanted. I'm 119 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: not sure any of the pictures who have been traded 120 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: are guys the Yankees really focused on. It's more of 121 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: an industry wide thing than a Yankee thing, in my opinion. 122 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: But it's certainly fair to be concerned, and it's certainly 123 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: fair to judge later. I just don't know that we 124 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: can judge them right now. Now. One other thing on 125 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: this whole Yankee subject. Aaron Judge is turning thirty four soon, 126 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: thirty four years old. Now, Aaron Judge is coming off 127 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: an amazing season. He's had several amazing seasons, but at 128 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: some point he's not going to be this version of 129 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: Aaron Judge, and it's probably coming, I don't know, within 130 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: the next two or three seasons where the dip starts. 131 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: They need to take advantage of Aaron Judge while he 132 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: is still in his prime. Yankee fans know this. I'm 133 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: not telling them something that they don't know, but it 134 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: kind of is the backdrop to this whole thing, and 135 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: it gives one pause when looking at them and thinking, okay, 136 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: are things really going to be okay? Well they better 137 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: be okay, because not only is Judge aging, Garrett Cole 138 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: is aging. He's coming off Tommy John. You've got a 139 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: lot of questions here and they need to provide answers. 140 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: I was concerned with re signing Garrett Cole after he 141 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: opted out. I thought this is the perfect get out 142 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 2: of jail free card. Even though he's a great pitcher, 143 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: he had just missed half the season with an injury, 144 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: and you're thinking, at some point, this guy's elbow is 145 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: going to go. I mean, how many guys throw one 146 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: hundred miles an hour forever? And unfortunately that was the 147 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: first thing that happened last spring, was that he broke. 148 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: But hopefully he returns strong this year. I want to 149 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 2: visit the Cody Bellinger situation because the Yankees are obviously interested. 150 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: We've heard rumors that they are making him their top priority. 151 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: I don't blame them. He gives them versatility. He was 152 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: excellent last year. What are their main competitors right now? 153 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: Is Toronto interested? Are there other sleepers that you put 154 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: out there in the mix? Or is this basically just 155 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: the staring contest between Bellinger and his agent and the Yankees. 156 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: In a general sense, Derek, I would never say that 157 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: the Yankees are the only team in the mix. Now. 158 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: Do I know exactly who else is in No, but 159 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: the Mets certainly seem to be a player here. There 160 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: has been talk of the Dodgers maybe on a shorter deal, 161 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: and the Blue Jays seem more focused on Tucker. But 162 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: I don't know that they can be ruled out of 163 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: any player right now the way they're proceeding, So I 164 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: am quite certain there's competition for Bellinger. I don't know 165 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: that any team wants Bellinger more than the Yankees do 166 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: and see him as more of a priority. So free 167 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: agency is always difficult for even the reporters who cover 168 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: it to read because things are going on that we 169 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: don't know about. And I always kind of caution people 170 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: that we're getting I don't know ten twenty thirty percent 171 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: of what actually is happening, and it's really tough to judge. 172 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: And I always tell people too, Hey, things come out 173 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: of nowhere. You might see something happen today or tomorrow 174 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: or the next day that no one has talked about. 175 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: In fact, most of these moves fall into that category. 176 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: Okamoto was not going to Toronto. Until he was going 177 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: to Toronto, no one had heard about that. So you 178 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 1: don't know what's going on exactly. You don't know where 179 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: the Yankees competition might be. But the only thing I 180 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: will say is I am quite certain that there is competition. 181 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: I just don't know who and to what extent. 182 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 2: I always caution people the same thing that you're saying. 183 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: No one saw Aaron Boone tearing his knee up and 184 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: a Rod getting traded to the Yankees. That happened in 185 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: a period of just a couple of weeks, and it 186 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: was well into the winter. I believe it was February 187 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: before that trade was commenced. So things can unfold and 188 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: take shape that can throw things in radically different directions. 189 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: One name we have heard is Edward Cabrera of the 190 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 2: Miami Marlins. Now, he's a guy who has electric stuff. 191 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody would argue with that, But the 192 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 2: injury hit has been kind of a concern. He's had 193 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 2: some issues with locating the fastball. He's gotten hit hard 194 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: from time to time. Who do you see as the 195 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 2: major players in the market for Cabrera. I would think 196 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 2: a lot of teams are in on him. 197 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: Yes, there are a lot of teams in on him, 198 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: and he's a guy with a couple of more years 199 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: of control. That makes him appealing. Yes, the injury history 200 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: is real. It cannot be denied. The Oils were in 201 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: on him early, and I'm not convinced they're out even 202 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: after adding Shane bas and Zach Efflin. The other teams 203 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: in the mix, I'm not exactly sure about. But we've 204 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: heard the Mets, we've heard the Cubs, all the usual suspects, 205 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: all the teams that are in need of starting pitching. 206 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure are in touch with the Marlins about Cabrera, 207 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: and my understanding, at least earlier in the week, was 208 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: that this was going to happen with some team, whether 209 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: it was the Yankees or someone else, that there just 210 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: seemed to be a desire on the Marlins part to 211 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: get this done. Now that said, it doesn't mean that 212 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: it will get done if they don't get their price. 213 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: They've been pretty disciplined about what they want in different 214 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: trade talks. So I can see this happening for the Yankees, 215 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: and I cannot see it happening for the Yankees. And 216 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: I don't mean to be wishy washy, but it's just 217 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: difficult to read right now with exactly what the Marlins 218 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: are looking for and exactly who is in the mix. 219 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: I've heard the Marlins fans are anxious to get some 220 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 2: offense because they need a bopper down there. We had 221 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 2: somebody suggest John Carlos Stanton, and I was like, man, 222 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 2: that would be wild, but I don't see that happening. 223 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: I want to talk about Freddy Peralta. This is a 224 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: guy that if I had a wish list, you know 225 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: that I was making for the Yankees. He's at the 226 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: top of my list. This guy is durable. He pitches 227 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 2: thirty starts a year, as you see the number seventeen 228 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: and six ass here with a two point seven to 229 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: zero more than a strikeout perating. I mean, he's a 230 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: frequent guest on foul territory. This guy is an absolute stud. 231 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: I'd imagine there's a lot of teams in on him too. 232 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: What is the Brewers' motivation to move him? Is it 233 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 2: just that they don't think they can resign him for 234 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: the kind of market value he provides with this kind 235 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: of resume. 236 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: There are a lot of teams in on him, and 237 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: I've heard everyone from the Dodgers to the Mets, to 238 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: the Red Sox to the Braves and small market teams 239 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: as well, because his salary for the season is eight 240 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: million dollars and that is a relative pittance for a 241 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: starting pitcher of his quality. Now, what is the Brewers' motivation? 242 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 1: It's a good question, but this might be hard for 243 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: Yankees fans to understand or grasp. But there are teams 244 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: like the Brewers that can't operate the way the Yankees 245 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: and Mets and big market teams do when they have 246 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: a player who is eligible for free agency at the 247 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: end of a season, when he has only one year 248 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: of club control left, they're going to at least listen 249 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: to offers for him, and they don't expect that they 250 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: can sign him to an extension. The Rays operate this way, 251 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: the Guardians operate this way, the Athletics, and any number 252 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: of small market teams. So when you don't expect you're 253 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: going to be able to sign a guy like this 254 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: to an extension, you're of course going to listen. And 255 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: the question is will anyone meet the Brewers price, which 256 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: is going to be significant, because there is a draft 257 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: pick on the end of this thing if you make 258 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: Freddy paroltla qualifying offer and he rejects it. So that's 259 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: part of the calculus here. You're not just getting this 260 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: outstanding pitcher, You're getting a draft pick at the end 261 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: of it. So there's a lot going on here. I 262 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: do expect, and I said this on Foul Territory the 263 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,119 Speaker 1: other day, I do expect he's going to be moved. 264 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: I just believe that the Brewers are going to get 265 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: pushed to the point where they say, Okay, this is 266 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: a good enough trade, we'll do it. They did it 267 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: with Corbyn Burns two years ago. It was the exact 268 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 1: same scenario. One you're left of club control and Peralta 269 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: in some ways is more desirable because he's making eight 270 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: million and Corbyn Burns was above fifteen. 271 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 2: Nice well, Ken, thanks for joining. I know that you're 272 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 2: super busy with all the news that's going on and 273 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: all the stuff that's about to break, because at some 274 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: point the DAN will break and I'm expecting a flurry 275 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: of news and reports. Check out Ken on Fair Territory 276 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 2: is a frequent guest on Foul Territory obviously the Athletic 277 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 2: and all your great work. 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