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Speaker 1: we are welcome to another edition of the Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansa is coming to

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Speaker 1: you from a virtual room filled with some heroes. Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What is up? Boys? Hey now? Dan? He

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Speaker 1: I think they've think they've got us confused with m

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Speaker 1: Jack Easterby, who literally probably is creating designs to take

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Speaker 1: our strategy to usurped the belt the Balkans. I don't

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl week, that's that's when we need our

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Speaker 1: general Kevin patra Um. No Chris Westling today. Um as

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Speaker 1: everyone knows, west is in another fight right now against

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Speaker 1: But how much of his heart he's putting into doing

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Speaker 1: and still delivering top West analysis, and we're so lucky

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Speaker 1: even started, so they were already coming into this game

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Speaker 1: as a tire fire UH and Houston took care of business,

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Speaker 1: at least their defense shook. I guess played a little

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Speaker 1: bit better at the Texans. I'm always like, I'm surprised

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Speaker 1: that when Minshew doesn't put up more points in this Yeah,

433
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Speaker 1: especially when he throws for three hundred plus yards right,

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Speaker 1: which he's done, and the record UH in in games

435
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 1: in which Minshew has thrown for three hundred plus yards

436
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: is not a good sign, so you don't want to

437
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Speaker 1: rely too much on him. But they didn't get anything

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Speaker 1: out of James Robinson today, who often met brick walls

439
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 1: when he was running the ball. Lewis Kaschenalt still contributed

440
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 1: as he has for the majority of this year. But

441
00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,959
Speaker 1: this is just a team that lacks weapons at lack cohesiveness.

442
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: It doesn't outlook anything like the unit on both sides

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Speaker 1: of the ball, the team that we saw in the

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Speaker 1: first two weeks, and it is it does have a

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Speaker 1: lot to do with the losses, like you said of

446
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Speaker 1: guys like Miles Jack, I still find this to be

447
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,439
Speaker 1: this Houston team to be somehow more depressing than the

448
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,719
Speaker 1: Cowboys at this point. And I'm gonna need to go

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Speaker 1: watch this tape closely, um if I choose to do so,

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Speaker 1: to see if that opinion holds true. Well, they were

451
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 1: certainly more depressing I thought when Billy was there, because

452
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 1: a real ugliness had settled over there. I think they

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Speaker 1: love Romeo. I think I saw after the game they

454
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: were saying that all the meetings, like Romeo just says

455
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: funny stuff all the time, that how can you not

456
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Speaker 1: love Roman kind of like a love of old Bear.

457
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Speaker 1: But just watch out here, guys, because their schedule is

458
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Speaker 1: going to soften up, and they now they can rally.

459
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Speaker 1: It's like in Major League we all shook you. You know,

460
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Speaker 1: you're Cleveland usually, like sometimes it's good to rise up

461
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Speaker 1: against the father figure or the owner or the general

462
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Speaker 1: manager slash coach that you didn't like. What better way

463
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Speaker 1: to stick it to Billy O'Brien out the door than to,

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Speaker 1: you know, reel off five of the six wins after

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Speaker 1: his departure. You're back in. It's Jack Easter be with

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Speaker 1: the Texans. You want to come coach to Texans. Texans?

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Speaker 1: All hold on, I got a guy on the line,

468
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Speaker 1: asked about white walls. Romeo has been a players coach.

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Speaker 1: There's a famous clipping in Brown circles, which there aren't

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Speaker 1: many of those in the last twenties plus years. Maybe

471
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Speaker 1: there will be some this year, but there aren't many.

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Speaker 1: Where he was in the locker room after a victory

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Speaker 1: in two thousand seven, he's one great year with them

474
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Speaker 1: when he said, when you guys do well, it makes

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Speaker 1: me look good. And I'm looking pretty good right now

476
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Speaker 1: and today, and the Texans looked pretty good. I guess,

477
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Speaker 1: so not bad for your first win. Alright, Speaking of

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Speaker 1: those Brown's, nick hang around here as we dig into

479
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Speaker 1: the latest Cleveland conquest. Rivers on third down and four

480
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Speaker 1: from US on forty six yards line, motioned by Taylor

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Speaker 1: back into the backfield, shotgun for Rivers. Third down, the

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Speaker 1: Browns showing off the left side. Then they drop off.

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Speaker 1: Rivers back to pass pressure coming stepped up product pickock.

484
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Speaker 1: They got a don a sideline picked up by Ronny Harrison.

485
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Speaker 1: It's a pick six touchdown, Jim Donovan. Was it called

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Speaker 1: w K R K Philip Rivers pick six was the

487
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Speaker 1: one of was one of several killer mistakes by the

488
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Speaker 1: veteran quarterback. Who has to have Frank Wright in mc

489
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Speaker 1: cults brain Trust thinking after a thirty three loss to

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Speaker 1: the Browns. For Cleveland, it's four straight wins and the

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Speaker 1: team's first four and one starts since the British Old

492
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Speaker 1: days with Billy Belichick in the nine nineties, Mark, would

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Speaker 1: you take out of this one? I would note that

494
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Speaker 1: the last time that happened, when they made an interesting

495
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Speaker 1: nugget at the end of the telecast that it was

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Speaker 1: prior to the first season of Friends. Like culturally, that's

497
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Speaker 1: a really long time ago. I mean, beside all the

498
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Speaker 1: little football you know items, this game is to me

499
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: another study in what this Browns team is this season.

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Speaker 1: You know, the talk was, Okay, this is a run

501
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: heavy team. Their systematically running for two d three hundred

502
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Speaker 1: yards a game and that's how they that's how they've

503
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Speaker 1: basically squeezed the life out of their opponents to get

504
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Speaker 1: to three and one. What would happen in this affair

505
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Speaker 1: against a really good Cults defense. They came out throwing

506
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Speaker 1: the ball. I mean it was it was they couldn't run,

507
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: they were unable to move the ball on the ground.

508
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 1: But it really was the focus was putting it on

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield's back early on, and he I thought he

510
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: had the best half that I've seen him play arguably. Ever,

511
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: that's just I'm talking about just like the defense you

512
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: were playing, you weren't playing the Bengals. He had two

513
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: yards over the first thirty minutes. Um. They were aggressively

514
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 1: attacking Indies secondary right up the middle of the field,

515
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Speaker 1: and it was working. And you know, this Browns team

516
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: is learning to get up quickly as they did against Dallas.

517
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Speaker 1: But then you've got to deal with the other thirty minutes.

518
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Speaker 1: And they were lucky that Philip rivers Um is a

519
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Speaker 1: quarterback right now, who I think number one. They're playing

520
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: around the best they can, and that's not easy to

521
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Speaker 1: do because they're not littered with stars the Cults, but

522
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Speaker 1: I don't think that they necessarily trust Philip rivers And

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Speaker 1: I also think that he just doesn't fit into what

524
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Speaker 1: the Cults probably should be on offense. So there were

525
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Speaker 1: like that that was coming into view as this game

526
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: was melting down the stretch for the Cults, but the

527
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Speaker 1: Cleveland secondary allow is inviting and allow sort of anyone

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Speaker 1: back in and I think one of the stories of

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Speaker 1: the game for Cleveland And Nick, I know you watched

530
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: this too, but the you know, there are days away

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Speaker 1: from playing the Steelers and they came out of here

532
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Speaker 1: with Baker Mayfield, Wyatt Teller, they're badass right guard Ryan

533
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Speaker 1: Harrison who had the pick six, who they brought into place,

534
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Speaker 1: safety Harrison, Bryant, Jacob Phillips, Jordan Elliott, Sheldon Richardson, Olivier Vernon,

535
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Speaker 1: and Kareem Hunt, all with injury questions heading into Monday.

536
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Speaker 1: So you know it's this is this team is not

537
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: extremely healthy, but instead of classic sort of Cleveland melt job,

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00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 1: they made just enough plays down the stretch to get

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Speaker 1: to form one. And it's something that I mean, Nick,

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00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: I don't know where you were in I know where

541
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: I was, and it feels like a long time ago.

542
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 1: I was to Um Jacobs Field had opened and my

543
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: dad took me to the exhibition game the day before

544
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Speaker 1: it opened and we sat in the front row in

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Speaker 1: the upper deck, which he still sits back and wonders

546
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Speaker 1: why he ever did that with a two year old son. Um.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, you think about. Belichick was the

548
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: head coach. Um Nick Saban was the defensive coordinator. Addy

549
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: Newson was a front office executive who had yet to

550
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: become the first black GM in the NFL in NFL history. Um,

551
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: this is an extremely long time ago. Of course, it

552
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: would be the year that we're in a pandemic that

553
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: Browns fans can't enjoy this, but that's neither here nor there.

554
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: You're right about the how they've had this, this identity

555
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: of a run first team, and I just didn't work today.

556
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt was under eight yards rushing today. Dennis Johnson

557
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: ripped off a run to kind of put things away

558
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: at the end, but for the most part, they couldn't

559
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: run the ball well. The Holts tackle really well individually.

560
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: That's one thing that really jumped out. They were not great.

561
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: The Kareem Hunt and Nick Chubb are guys who do

562
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: not go down on first contact. Usually they usually break

563
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: through an arm tackle. The Colts were very, very good

564
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: at tackling, and it forced the Browns and Kevin Stefanski

565
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: to just try to figure out a different way to

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Speaker 1: move the football. And I do give him credit, especially

567
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Speaker 1: in that first half. I thought these were two coaches

568
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: who had pretty solid game plans and it was just

569
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: a matter of execution. In the first half, the Browns

570
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: offense executed very well, moved to move the ball down

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Speaker 1: the field pretty easily. I think they outgained the amount

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Speaker 1: of the Colts allowed last week. I think they outgained

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Speaker 1: him almost entirely through maybe two and a half three quarters.

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Speaker 1: So the offense was moving, they were getting past this defense,

575
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Speaker 1: but they also ran into those troubles that you mentioned

576
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Speaker 1: and um and it really came down to basically Philip

577
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Speaker 1: Rivers story and pick six and also getting hit with

578
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: a safety because of a grounding penalty in the end zone.

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Speaker 1: That was the difference in the game. Frank Reich said

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Speaker 1: he thought Philip Rivers is playing very good, and he's

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Speaker 1: the least of my worries after the game when they

582
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 1: don't don't know what he's gonna say. But i' just

583
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: see someone that you know, I'm with you. I thought

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Speaker 1: going into this game, that's why I thought the Browns

585
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Speaker 1: would win, because offense beats defense. In everyone talking about like, oh,

586
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: the Chief's defense, they're pretty frisky. Okay, you give up

587
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Speaker 1: forty points. The Colts defense number one in the league.

588
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: They didn't get a single stop in the first half

589
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Speaker 1: of this game. I know they made some plays and

590
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: they didn't have Darius Leonard, but ultimately good offense beats him.

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Speaker 1: And I know you got you guys are picking on

592
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: the running game a little bit. But the test of

593
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: the the ultimate test of a great running team is

594
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Speaker 1: can you run it at the end of the game

595
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Speaker 1: when the other team knows it's coming to win the game?

596
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: And they ran for two first downs? Not just that

597
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: the dearness Johnson won to win the game at the

598
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,959
Speaker 1: end against this defense. That's I know, that's getting like

599
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler's He's getting him sizzling to have such a

600
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: run heavy Brown's team, I I usually don't like. I

601
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,719
Speaker 1: can't really even look at these games until we get

602
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: out of this show and after Sunday Night Football. Then

603
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: it starts to become reality. Sitting at a desk um

604
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: like doing this and like typing out data points and

605
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: looking at like a hideous Dolphins Niners game at the

606
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: same time at all is very surreal until later in

607
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: the night. The Colts defense, I mean the Colts brutal

608
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: because Baker, as good as his first half was, was

609
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: terrible in the second half. He threw two picks, could

610
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Speaker 1: have been a third. He had a fumble that they recovered,

611
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Speaker 1: and after he got driven to the turf by Justin Houston,

612
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: and he's in a lot of pain, as Mark said,

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00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: uh he is. You know, he was getting X rays.

614
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Speaker 1: After the game. They reported, Um, I don't think he

615
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: could have completed a big pass on that last possession.

616
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Speaker 1: So and with Nick Chubb not playing, and with Baker

617
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Speaker 1: Mayfield maybe not even able to make a throw, you

618
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: let the Ernest Johnson beat you with the twenty eight

619
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Speaker 1: yard run on top of everything else. Frank Roig probably,

620
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Speaker 1: if I had a guess, because he's smart, he is

621
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: trying to head this off at the past because he

622
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: doesn't want to add anything else. Ron Rivera style into

623
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: a potential quarterback controversy. You do have a solid backup

624
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: and Jake Briskett a limited but solid backup. But Rivers

625
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: did not play well. He is one of the biggest

626
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: problems that the Colts have right now. I don't care

627
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: what he told the media, that picks six is one

628
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: of the easier ones you'll ever see in the NFL,

629
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Speaker 1: no doubt. I mean he left that out down the sideline.

630
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Speaker 1: He just has no juice behind his passes these days,

631
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Speaker 1: which is understandable with his age. But for the most part,

632
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. I mean, it's it's a Colts team

633
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Speaker 1: that this is a game that when we came in,

634
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: we saw the Browns and the Colts each at three

635
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,719
Speaker 1: and one, and we said, okay, well, are either these

636
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: teams for real? Because the Browns had a nice little

637
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: easy patch against a couple of lesser teams than the

638
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: same thing with the Colts. I guess we had an answer,

639
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: but we really won't know for a month or two,

640
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: if not longer. But today the Browns are a better team.

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Speaker 1: The NFL is weird like that, but the Browns four

642
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: or five to start season not bad at all. Shook,

643
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Speaker 1: come back and join us on Sunday night football. Okay,

644
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: sounds good. All right, let's move on, Ricky. He throws

645
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: it down the field. Oh that is Chase play pool

646
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: for our Pittsburgh stealer's touchdown. Why open from thirty five

647
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: and Ben kind of new it. Yeah, Oh yeah, I've

648
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: been saying it all day. That's our four times saying it.

649
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: But that's top shelf Canadian bacon and said long, Oh, yeah,

650
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: there's the Dave damage that football program being attached to

651
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: another Steeler's win. I do love when the color guy

652
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: all you here is like a guttural noise, like where

653
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: did it come from? Was it from the booth, the bedroom,

654
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: the bathroom. Bill Hill Grow with tonch Jilkin for w

655
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: DV The Steelers. Yes, I've done it again. Chase Claypool

656
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: is the latest wide receiver star to be drafted outside

657
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: the first round for the Steelers. His four touchdown day

658
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: the difference for Pittsburgh in a win over the Eagles

659
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: at pines Field. This is the craziest stat of the

660
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: day for New Bols. I don't know how it's possible

661
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: because this span, this exactly spans my lifespan and basically

662
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: as long as I can remember following football, the Steelers

663
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: have been a good team and sometimes great and several

664
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: times super Bowl winning. The Steelers are four and o

665
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: for the first time in forty years. Okay, what I

666
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: not a great season? Some of those fourty years, I

667
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: I that threw me. That threw me comprehensively. And you

668
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: know when, with a few tweets, most people were like what,

669
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: because look, I understand they struggled before their dynasties rose

670
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: up in the fifties and sixties and all that business.

671
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: But like there, there you have your patriots. If you're

672
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: a Jets fan dealing with the Steelers since like the eighties,

673
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: you're telling me they never started four No, I like

674
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: completely didn't buy that when I first saw it. Um,

675
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: But back to the game. Yeah, So just an awesome

676
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: performance by Claypool, who is a beast. And this came

677
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: in the same game that the anti Deante Johnson, another

678
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: highly touted wide receiver, was unable to finish the game. Uh,

679
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: he had another injury. So uh it helps to have

680
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: the depth that they have in Claypool will continue to

681
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: play big snaps here, second round pick out of Notre Dame,

682
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: and I mean think about it, got Mike Wallace, Antonio Brown, Martevis,

683
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 1: Brian Juju Smith Schuster, James Washington, Deante Washington, all the James.

684
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: Uh what I said, Deante Johnson, Uh, they just have

685
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: an uncanny neck. So that's what I take away from

686
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 1: this game on the Steeler side, just how they continue

687
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: to populate that roster and that offensive side of the

688
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: football with playmakers and and Ben Roethlisberger. For all the

689
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 1: doubts around him in the off season, he is just

690
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: as good, if not better, right now than he was

691
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: before the elbow injury. He's just playing. There's none of

692
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: those reckless and I know the schedule has been a

693
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: little bit soft and it's been a weird year, but

694
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: he's just been so smart with the football and on

695
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: target and just running the whole scheme with ease and

696
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: the defense. It was not very good today for the Steelers,

697
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: and especially when you think about what the Eagles have

698
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: going on their issues that they make Travis Falgum look

699
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: like Jerry rice In in this game ten for one,

700
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: fifty two and a touchdown UM, So that tells you

701
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: kind of that they had some breakdowns themselves and they

702
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: struggled um to get stops and put this game away.

703
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: They were up thirty one ten Pittsburgh was and the

704
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 1: Eagles had a fifty nine yard field goal attempt late

705
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter with the chance to take the

706
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: lead before a miss and then a final Claypool touchdown

707
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: for the final score. So yeah, the Steelers four and

708
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: oh defense a little bump in the road, but the

709
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: offense humming at a high power right now, and I

710
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: just think that they are absolutely in the conversation is

711
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: the best team in the a f C. It's funny

712
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: because every game they've had has been so similar where

713
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: their fans and you know, their coaches will probably say

714
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: we didn't play a complete game, that it was close

715
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: like about midway through the fourth quarter, but then you

716
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 1: score the decisive important touchdown to win it, and to me,

717
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: I think, like, well, that's that's that's a good way. Yeah,

718
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: you want to blow teams out, but they are getting

719
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: in the habit of making game winning plays in the

720
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. On both sides of the ball. The secondary

721
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: has not been great this year, but I think he

722
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: made a great point. Then on Roethlisberger. I've heard some

723
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: like people picking him a little bit this year, but

724
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: I think the decision making has been the difference. I'm

725
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: with you. He has not been making those dumb throws.

726
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,479
Speaker 1: He's been just going for what's there, and uh, he's

727
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 1: played really well, just kind of keeping them on schedule.

728
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: He's looked great in the games I saw before this week.

729
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: But the one little area, and I wonder if today,

730
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: you know, just proved that to be a small sample size.

731
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 1: Some of his deep shots. His deeper passes were seemed

732
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: to be kind of like overthrows, just more off off

733
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: target than I'm used to with Big Ben. But it

734
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: wasn't a ton of throws. I don't know, was he

735
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: td did he solve that? That didn't register to me

736
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: that he was struggling with his deep ball, but maybe

737
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: on a closer watch I would see that. I thought,

738
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: you know, he led the offense. It was also another

739
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 1: weird stat. It was the first time the Steelers had

740
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: scored thirty points and something like eighteen games or so

741
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 1: they I mean last year was last year obviously plays

742
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: a big part of that, but that also, of course

743
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: carried back to the end of the review season with

744
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: Big Ben. So I thought, you're gonna say since nineteen

745
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: seventy nine, and it's like, what what have I been

746
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 1: watching for the past? Heads explode Carson Wentz. By the way,

747
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: I'll just make this last comment. Uh, he threw two

748
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: more interceptions now and and I believe he has nine,

749
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,479
Speaker 1: which is now well passed his total from sixteen games

750
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: last year. But if you watch this game after a

751
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: very slow start, um, you could start to see the

752
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: old Carson Wentz starting to come out, and he started

753
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: getting comfortable and he developed that rapport. Like I said

754
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: with Fulgum, who might be a guy. He might be

755
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: a guy. And when Jalen Rager comes back, maybe they

756
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: have one too. And then you got zach Ertz and

757
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 1: Sean Jackson's maybe a week await. They need the old

758
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: zach Ertz to show up. And Lane Johnson gets hurt.

759
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: Even like every Eagles game, someone else great gets hurt.

760
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: So even when you have some good things happen, it's like, uh, yeah,

761
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:51,479
Speaker 1: and it would be good to get the other type

762
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: tight end back to. I guess I'm out out on

763
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: waiting for DeShawn Jackson to come back and make an impact.

764
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: That just kind of been in two games over the

765
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 1: last two two or three games over the last two seasons.

766
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: Every year it's the same thing on the injury report.

767
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: He might be practicing, please exactly. It's exhausting, and uh,

768
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: for the Eagles, obviously this was a big day for them. Uh,

769
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: you don't want to look at it that way, but

770
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: this is a results human business. And Dak Prescott's out

771
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: for the year, so you are in good position potentially

772
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: still a win your division. But guess what they got

773
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: the Ravens next week. So they gotta figure in a

774
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: way to win some of these games. Right now, they

775
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: are not. Let's move on. Brow throws to his left.

776
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: It is complete to Mike Thomas. Thomas fumbles the ball.

777
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: The Ravens happening scooped up at midfield. It's Patrick Queen

778
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: down a sideline. He's still at twenty. That's Ted fine

779
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:43,959
Speaker 1: touch the raven Patrick Queen eight twenty one lefts gonna

780
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: play the heyes of the bar. Nice job, Sandusky w

781
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 1: b a L. It's called Patrick Queen stepped in front

782
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 1: of a Joe Burrow pass. Speaking of a C North

783
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 1: teams that just know what they're doing. Uh. Queen stepped

784
00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: in front of the past took it to the house.

785
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: Another impact defensive play for the Ravens and three win

786
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: over the Bengals. Queen also forced the fumble by Borrow,

787
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 1: his old l s U teammate. Just another direct hit

788
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: in the first round by the Ravens. Greg This one

789
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: didn't look competitive from the outside. No, it wasn't at

790
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: all at the Ravens defense, and that was Marlon Humphrey,

791
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: who made one of the best players I've seen all

792
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: year holding a guy up and then punching it out

793
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: for Queen to to return at Humphrey has done that

794
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: in three straight games. He just got a huge contract.

795
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: He's one of the best cornerbacks in the league. He

796
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: did that, forces fumbles on the REGs since three in

797
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: a row now, and their defense played as good a

798
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: defensive game as any team all year. Maybe the Rams

799
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: today were in that mix to fifteen quarterback hits, seven sacks,

800
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: nine tackles for loss. They gave up seven points or

801
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: no three points. They scored seven points. They set up

802
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: another seven points with a turnover in the red zone.

803
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow was hit every single time he dropped back,

804
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: and early on it was on the communication and it

805
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: was on the offensive line, but probably about midway through

806
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: the second quarter, some of it was just on Joe

807
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: Burrow having a rookie day and holding the ball forever

808
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: when they're sending pressure, and even when they blocked it

809
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: up sometimes he was just holding it and taking hits

810
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: and no one's open and it was just a blood bath.

811
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: You felt. I felt bad watching the Bengals offense in

812
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: this game. They could have they could have had like

813
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: twenty drives. They wouldn't have scored. It's a reminder away

814
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: from those in Cincinnati. But I guess it could happen

815
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: when you got a rookie quarterback. These things could happen

816
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: against great teams. Yeah, because I mean last week was

817
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: so we you know, the Bengals protected Burrow a little

818
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: bit better, maybe the offensive line can figure out their

819
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: act to some degree. Um, not the case. And it's

820
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: it's a really rough division. Um. Every division is rough

821
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: to be a rookie quarterback. But when you're dealing with

822
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's front and Baltimore's, I mean, they're gonna teach you

823
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: lessons that are to be hard to forget. And you

824
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: just worry about anyone in Joe Burrow's position, where you

825
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 1: say where you're starting to make rookie mistakes, Like, I mean,

826
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 1: this is a heady quarterback. You can do it all.

827
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:13,439
Speaker 1: But when you're getting knocked around playoff to play game

828
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: after game, I mean, you could be a shell of

829
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 1: yourself by late December. It could be a really long season.

830
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: And to be clear, his mistakes were really just kind

831
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: of holding it and in decision, not knowing what he

832
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: was seeing, and then taking some hits sometimes trying to

833
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: make a play and then taking a hit at the

834
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: end of the game. And it's a brutal game for

835
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: the Bengals because they ended up losing DJ Reader, their

836
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 1: big free agent signing. It sounds like for the season.

837
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: A J. Green left with a hamstring at this point. Um,

838
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: that's I don't think that really hurts the way their

839
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: offense was going. Sam Hubbard also, who's played really well

840
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 1: on their defensive line, got hurt, and that one looked

841
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: a little dicey. Their defense played amazing. I know, I know,

842
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: it's hard to imagine that this was one of the

843
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: worst games of Lamar Jackson's career. I think he I

844
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: think he would admit that. That's two in a couple

845
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: of weeks. He had three yards rushing. He could have

846
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: had about four or five interceptions. They struggled to move

847
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: the ball. I think they scored I counted it up.

848
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: They had ten drives you know that started not you know,

849
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: not in the red zone. They had one that you know,

850
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: they kind of got a layup, and they scored thirteen

851
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 1: points in those drives. The in the in the one

852
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: touchdown they had they had to really work hard for

853
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: on like a fifteen play drive. So the Bagels defense

854
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: actually played great in this game and has played better

855
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: this year, but then they lose three starters and there's

856
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,479
Speaker 1: not much good to feel it. But there's a number

857
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: of games you could point to with Baltimore now where

858
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: it's huh, they just don't look themselves. They don't look

859
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: as explosive, and then their stars aren't on offense operating

860
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: to that degree. I mean, we asked a couple of

861
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: weeks ago, you know, and they Lamar Jackson was asked like,

862
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: as your offense been diagnosed, and he said, yeah, it's

863
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: sort of the Titans thing like this other you know,

864
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: another team came in and did the same thing. Is

865
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 1: there any of that that seems like it's carrying over?

866
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: Was it just a bad game? Yeah? I think they

867
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: shut them down. The fact that they shut down their

868
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: running games so easily. The only runs they had was

869
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: like a Devin duverne Um kind of trick play early.

870
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: It's putting a lot of pressure on the passing game

871
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: and that's been a little erratic. Let's move. Here's a

872
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: play Fax sets up to throw. He's going vertical deep

873
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: down the left side, and it's Robert Woods to catch

874
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: it to twenty, he goes in touchdown, l A, you

875
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: wanted more top shell serving there. It was from Sean McVeigh,

876
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: Jared Goff and the Rams. That's a pro. That's a bro,

877
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 1: who's a pro. JB long with a call where KSPN

878
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: Jared Goff through two touchdowns, including that long strike to

879
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: Robert Woods, and Aaron Donald's matched a career high with

880
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: four sacks as the room, I mean, can we appreciate

881
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald Donald's greatness as the Rams coasted to a

882
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: thirty to ten win over the Washington football team. L

883
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: A needed just five games this season to complete a

884
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 1: sweep of the NFC East Mark. I'm guessing the Rams

885
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: are a little more and to watch this week compared

886
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 1: to last Sunday slog in the Swamps of Jersey. Yeah,

887
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: I mean it was there were three teams in this game.

888
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: It was it was Washington the Rams and like the

889
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: hideous rainstorm that you know, basically changed this into one

890
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: of those games where it's hard to kind of evaluate

891
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: what was happening to I like, I like weird weather

892
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: as much as the next person, but it didn't help um.

893
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: The second quarterback that came in the game for Washington,

894
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 1: it was the story of the day. For me. It

895
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: was Kyle Allen got a helmet to helmet hit with

896
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey and was removed from the game, and Alex

897
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: Smith came in. I don't know if we have the

898
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: sound of that, but if we don't, I can just

899
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: tell you that it was. You can find it all

900
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,919
Speaker 1: over the place. It was a pretty amazing emotional moment

901
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: and one of those things that I, you know, I

902
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 1: can be pretty cynical about the NFL and football in general,

903
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: but it kind of cut through a lot of that

904
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: because there were the scenes of Elizabeth um Smith and

905
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: their young children up in the stands. You know, they

906
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: had a few fans in there, and just uh. I

907
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: think Erica Ricky tweeted that it was as gripping and

908
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: kind of anxiety um written to watch Elizabeth Smith responding

909
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: to every play, and one of the reasons was that

910
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: you're dealing with Aaron Donald on the other side, and

911
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: it's like, you want Alex Smith to have a nice

912
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: game where he doesn't get please, no one hurt him

913
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: and just let him operate, and instead Aaron Donald, you know,

914
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: is becoming an absolute nightmare. They had eight sacks, as

915
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 1: you mentioned, I mean, it was a really rough game

916
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: for the Redskin. For the Washington offense, they just they

917
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: they've got a long way to go. And at one

918
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: point Kyle Allen was healthy enough to come back, and

919
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera refused to do that. But Alex Smith, you know,

920
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: for he had about thirty seven yards passing in this game.

921
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 1: I mean, their offense has many issues. Weather was a factor.

922
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: Um it was a nice return. But this is another

923
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: one of these NFC East teams that's you know, telling

924
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: themselves we're gonna win the division and we'll have probably

925
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: two wins by the end of October, but we still

926
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: have a chance to win one of the worst divisions

927
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: we've ever witnessed with our eyes. Everyone is was the

928
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: same way really since the injury to Smith, which was

929
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: almost two years ago. Alex Smith, and you know how

930
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 1: gruesome it was, and then the ESPN Special Project eleven

931
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: I believe it was called, where you just saw the

932
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: how um insane the recovery process was, how he almost

933
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: lost his life, and then when he gets activated and

934
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: moved up to backup quarterback this week, there is that

935
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: feeling of kind of nerves around it because now everyone's

936
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: invested in this idea of this guy completing this comeback.

937
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: But also like, now that we've seen the documentary, we've

938
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: been following the story, we know that he has a wife,

939
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: we know he has kids, we know he's a nice guy,

940
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, my goodness. So you know, on Twitter,

941
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: I had no no viewpoint on this game other than

942
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: what was going on in my tweet deck. It was

943
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: like all of football Twitter was like, um, Apollo Creed's

944
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: wife in Rocky four when we see her in the

945
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: crowd one he's fighting Apollo create fighting Vrago, and you

946
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: just see her getting more and more nervous, and then

947
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: I could I'm only imagine that's how like random football

948
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: fans feel. And then this woman, Elizabeth Smith, I believe

949
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: she's actually on camera reacting to this moment in real time,

950
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: and apparently, according again to Twitter, one of the first snaps,

951
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:23,439
Speaker 1: he takes Aaron Donald, who's you know, six ft three

952
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 1: pounds of pure muscle, jumps on his back and puts

953
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: all that pressure on the on the rod in his leg.

954
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: My goodness. Well, and and he hadn't been experiencing contact

955
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: and practice. So that's the first hit he took in

956
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: six hundred ninety three days. So welcome back to the NFL.

957
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: And I mean, if you want an NFC East champion,

958
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: how about the Rams. They've just swept the NFC East, right,

959
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: I mean, the the numbers for this game are outrageous.

960
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: Washington had fifty two plays, they gained a hundred and

961
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: eight yards. So that's that's that's in the that's in

962
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 1: the clubhouse. That has a chance to be the worst

963
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: off into performance in NFL team has all season to

964
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: average one point eight yards per pass play um. That's insane.

965
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: So we couldn't have been a tougher spot for Alex

966
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: Smith to come into mark. Did we get a Ron

967
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: rivera white flag moment for the fourth straight week. Did

968
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: he do something that clearly and you know, telegraph that

969
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: he wasn't trying to win on any level. I mean,

970
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: the whole game looks like they weren't trying to win

971
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: on any level. But it's you know, I do think

972
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: that you know you're onto your third quarterback. What happens

973
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: to these teams? It doesn't go well, And it looked

974
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: like a team that's disorganized on that side of the

975
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: ball is to two incredible heights in If Aaron Donald

976
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: was a quarterback and did similar things, he'd be the

977
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: biggest star in America. He plays on the defensive line,

978
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,959
Speaker 1: so it's different. But four sacks today, like I said,

979
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: three tackles for loss, three quarterback hits. He leads the

980
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: NFL seven and a half sacks this season, He's on

981
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: pace for twenty four sacks and longtime listeners in the show, No,

982
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: there's one thing that I want more than even the

983
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 1: Jets being respectable again, and that is the NFL all

984
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 1: time sack record to get its dignity back after the

985
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: evil Brett Farve slid at the feet of Michael Strahan

986
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: and in the most heinous act of two thousand one.

987
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: I like to call it takes take I said what

988
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: I said, take back the dignity of the sack record,

989
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 1: because that's I think that's the last thing Aaron Donald

990
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: needs to maybe get more love, is get the sexiest

991
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: stat record that a defender can have. I know nobody

992
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: thinks sacks are important sometimes, but that comes with some glory.

993
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,240
Speaker 1: I hope it happens because it would just be another

994
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 1: notch on the belt of an all time great. Let's

995
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: move on, let's come and gets it off to the

996
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: last minute. Take to touch that Preston William cry hit

997
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: right in the chest and puts the right on the money.

998
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: It's what a beautiful prowl. What a day for Ryan Fitzpatrick,

999
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: Jimmy Cephalo w q A M with Jason Taylor. Jayson Taylor,

1000
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: how about that fitz magic refuses to be contained. Three

1001
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,439
Speaker 1: days after the old zuser predictive, Ryan Fitzpatrick would making

1002
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: his final start before two a time. The Harvard grad

1003
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: through for three fifty yards and three touchdowns with a

1004
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: nearly perfect passer rating and a forty three to seventeen

1005
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: destruction of the forty Niners, who apparently aren't as close

1006
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: to take off as this podcast thought. Greg. The big

1007
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: story after this game was Jimmy g benched at halftime

1008
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: after an ugly two quarters. Here's what Kyle Shanna and

1009
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: had to say after the game. I mean, just the

1010
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: way the whole game was going. I mean just kind

1011
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: of watching how we were playing as a whole, how

1012
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: he was playing. You can tell he was affected by

1013
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: his ankle. I mean, you can ask him more when

1014
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: he gets in, but I know he doesn't normally throw

1015
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: the ball that way, and I think he was struggling

1016
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: a little bit because of it and the way the

1017
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: game was going that I was gonna keep putting them

1018
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 1: in those positions and no one, We're gonna have to

1019
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: throw it a lot to come back. Did you sense that,

1020
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: Greg in the first two quarters, that he was not

1021
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 1: being able to play at a level that would be

1022
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: conducive to success. Yes, his throws were off target. You know,

1023
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: It's not like he was limping around there, but the

1024
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: ball was fluttering. He ended up seven for seventeen for

1025
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: seventies seven yards in two picks. I I found the

1026
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: ended sequence of that first half incredible, fascinating. They got

1027
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: the ball back with about thirty seconds left right after

1028
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: uh you know, the Dolphins had scored to go up

1029
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: seven after Jimmy Garoppolo through one of the worst interceptions

1030
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: anyone's throw it all year. That was awful. Uh So,

1031
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: then Jimmy Garoppolo gets the ball, throws it for no

1032
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: gain on first down, got seventy five yards to go.

1033
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: He couldn't be playing worset. Kyle so Inahan takes a

1034
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: time out right there. It says like in a kind

1035
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: of in a kind of like we we want to

1036
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: go score, and it almost felt like he was testing Garoppolo,

1037
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: like what do I have right now with Jimmy g

1038
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: in this game, and that the announcers were like apoplectic.

1039
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: Throws on second down, bad throw throws again on third down. Again,

1040
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: all you gotta do is run the ball and go

1041
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: to half time if you want. And he throws maybe

1042
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 1: an even worse interception than he did the first time. Now,

1043
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: these were terrible throws. They were also they were even

1044
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: worse decisions. Garoppolo just seemed scrambled. But I thought that

1045
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: was a really interesting coaching moment because I really do

1046
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: think he was kind of putting Garoppolo on the spot

1047
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: deciding what he was gonna do for the rest of

1048
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: the game. And uh, I think he was smart to

1049
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,919
Speaker 1: take him out because their offensive line, now that's two

1050
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: straight weeks where their communication isn't there, and that's been

1051
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: a big part of the problem, along with the quarterback play.

1052
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: They're only touchdown with Garoppolo came on a drive where

1053
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: they literally didn't throw the ball. It's crazy. I was like,

1054
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: I want to get to the Dolphins, but I was

1055
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 1: I was thinking they were going to manage this part

1056
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: of the schedule well enough and then get all their

1057
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: players back. I think the last two weeks other than Dallas,

1058
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: has been worse for the forty Niners than than any

1059
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: team in the league because they just lost to the

1060
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: Eagles and the Dolphins in this fashion, and now their

1061
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: schedule gets absolutely brutal. Rams, Patriots, Seahawks, Um Bucks, the

1062
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: Packers are in there, the Bucks in a row, and

1063
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 1: we and we glbally kind of set up going into

1064
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: this game like, oh, it actually kind of worked out

1065
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: for the forty Niners because Nick Molans stunk out the

1066
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: joint in Week four. But now it clears the path

1067
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: through Jimmy G and it clears any potential controversy. Now

1068
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: Jimmy G will go back to being an efficient passer

1069
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 1: and the Niners offense will go back to being one

1070
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: of the top um attacks with the great Kyle Shanahan. Well,

1071
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: none of that works if Jimmy G is either ineffective

1072
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: or injured or both, because then it all implodes on

1073
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: itself because then you have a compromise Jimmy G. You

1074
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: have Nick Mullins throwing the ball all over the place,

1075
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: and then you have beat Hard going in there for

1076
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: the second consecutive week. Who is not gonna win any

1077
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: titles either. Yeah, but I mean like that, it doesn't

1078
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 1: change what I think about Kyle Shanahan for instance. I mean,

1079
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: this is another team onto their third quarterback, and like you,

1080
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: they they gave Jimmy G a monster contract based on

1081
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: a small but completely fascinating sample size. That was a

1082
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: calculated risk, and Jimmy G had some really good games

1083
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: last year. He takes them to the super Bowl. But

1084
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: I think there's this sense that we've never really gotten

1085
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: that Jimmy G since well he he wasn't healthy enough.

1086
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: I don't think to play today. So I think that

1087
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: was a bad decision or whatever it was. Um, that's

1088
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: a problem for them, I do. I know Dolphins fans

1089
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: are out there thinking, like talk about us, I really

1090
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: want to because this Sometimes blowouts are fun. I I

1091
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 1: I stand by that take. This was a fun blowout

1092
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: to watch. They blew the doors off him. I it

1093
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: was as good a performance as any team I think

1094
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: has had on both sides of the ball. I know,

1095
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 1: I know the competition. San Francisco is banged up in

1096
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 1: the secondary, but Fitzpatrick saw that every time Robert Salah

1097
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: tried to cook something up and he left his cornerbacks

1098
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: out there one on one. Fitzpatrick said, Okay, I'm gonna

1099
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 1: bomb it on you, and every time it was right

1100
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: on the money. And Henry Hotson's boy Preston Williams is

1101
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: making plays, Davante Parker's played like a number one receiver. Uh.

1102
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick's throws in this game, we're just like amazing. And

1103
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: Flores is throwing once they get ahead in terms of

1104
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 1: the down and in terms of the game. He's so

1105
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 1: good with those blitzes and people don't know where it's

1106
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 1: coming from. And it was just kind of wild to

1107
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: just see them stomping out the even deep into the

1108
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 1: second half, like they're doing fake punts up like to score.

1109
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, it was It was a

1110
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: lot of fun in this Dolphins team there well coached that.

1111
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: I mean, they know how to do in this they

1112
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: know how to put people away. Mean, what will Dolphins

1113
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: fans do when Miami in the off season decides to

1114
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 1: trade to UH and sign a d aging Ryan Fitzpatrick

1115
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: to a seven year contract. He seems to be getting

1116
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: younger and more ferocious and more lovable by the week. Well,

1117
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: that with the whole schedule change, they have the Jets

1118
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 1: next week, so they got a pretty good chance um

1119
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: to go to three. And oh and I apologize to

1120
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: Chan Gaily for everything I said about you know, I

1121
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: think at one point you said that he hadn't been

1122
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator since Byron Jones being back for the

1123
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: Dolphins changes their defense by the way, He's kind of

1124
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: their Gilmore and it sets up everything else and and there.

1125
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: I think they could be a problem. Maybe I'm overreacting,

1126
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: but I really do. Here's the stat that a lot

1127
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: of good stats today. Here's one that is another stunny one.

1128
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: It speaks to the times and how you know, passing

1129
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: is much more hyper driven than it used to be,

1130
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: but still according to uh Pro Football Reference, which is peerless.

1131
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: Please visit Pro Football Reference, and they're not paying me

1132
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: for it. Today is Ryan Fitzpatrick's twelfth game with three

1133
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: plus yards passing and three plus tds passing John Elway's

1134
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: career total. That is outrageous. I have one more crazy

1135
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: staff for there are people who believe John always the

1136
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: best quarterback ever, just you know, heads up, so insane.

1137
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: I have one more crazy stat. I just I have

1138
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: to bring up that. Yeah, Tim Posty looked in the mirror,

1139
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: locked up the nine point favorite forty Niners here and

1140
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: extended her winless straight. And I just want to I'm

1141
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: not trying to bury, but I'm just trying to imagine

1142
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: a situation where the situation was reversed, and I'm I'm

1143
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: going to be much kinder than Erica would be to

1144
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: me in that situation. What's happening a lot from for words,

1145
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: like when I flipped over to the game and saw

1146
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: what was happening, I literally, I think on the network,

1147
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: I was like, if the if the watch the Dolphins

1148
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: win this, like I'm gonna have to drive my car

1149
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: off a cliff. And I was like I said that

1150
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: on TV, like nothing within like thirty five seconds. Oh

1151
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: my god, it is. It is. I I don't even

1152
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: know what to say. It's getting special now I think

1153
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: you should lean into it. And it's getting getting important.

1154
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: How about this way? I'll go from this angle, Greg,

1155
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: we don't condone this, although I know the restrictions of

1156
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: loosened up in our country, Um, but we don't condone this.

1157
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: And you know sometimes you know, suspensions could come out

1158
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: of nowhere. So I just want to be careful of

1159
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: the wording here. But if you're not watching our Thursday

1160
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: program or either listening to our Thursday podcast or watching

1161
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: our NFL Network preview show on Saturday mornings where Ricky

1162
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: makes her Lock of the week, if you're someone that's

1163
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: looking to make some money, you're like, eric is telling

1164
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: you who's gonna win. She's not picking the winner, but

1165
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: she's telling you what's going to happen. She's like a

1166
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: reverse Biff from Back to the Future. Too, is unbelievable,

1167
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: Like I got I got s h I T from

1168
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: people online being like you locked up the forty niners,

1169
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: Like how cool? Like so I thought, like people are

1170
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: getting mad at me saying that, like, oh, you really

1171
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 1: stooped low to get a win. But Erica, I mean

1172
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: I have to ask you. Your dad was ready to

1173
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: unplug cable and not have that extra expense. He's kept

1174
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: NFL Networks simply to hear you make these picks and

1175
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: you know you are. Is he disappointed? A little embarrassed?

1176
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: I haven't talked to him today. Your dad had to

1177
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 1: sell off one of his helicopters to have that direct TVs. Okay, yeah,

1178
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: let's get onto the jets. Game, Dan, all right, let's

1179
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: move on. Dot Dom snapped to Kyler Murk from the

1180
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: pockets date pass side going for Hopkins touch. DeAndre Hopkins

1181
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 1: was blanketed by a Jet, but it don't matter. Hopkins

1182
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: makes the catch and the Cardinals may have just put

1183
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,919
Speaker 1: the Jets to slay Go Dave pass with a call

1184
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: kat a r. Kyler Murray's at a career high an

1185
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: eighty yards passing, and the Cardinals coasting to a thirty

1186
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: to ten win over Joe Flacco and the New York Jets.

1187
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: Another blowout for New York Mark. There's been cause for

1188
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: concern and about this Arizona attack in recent weeks. Are

1189
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 1: the Jets is the perfect remedy for any team in

1190
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 1: need of a fix. They're a perfect remedy because here's

1191
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: a team, uh you know, we know their Jets are

1192
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: not good, but they're specializing and it almost just not

1193
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 1: showing up early on in a game like this. Two straight,

1194
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: three and ounce. Their third drive is a five play,

1195
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 1: fifteen yard march that ends nowhere three straight punts. The

1196
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 1: next march they get down to the Arizona thirteen thirteen

1197
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: yard line. It is a third down call, third and

1198
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: short they hand the ball off to a third string

1199
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 1: tight end named Trevin westco for no game, so in fashion,

1200
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: they go for it on fourth and one. Levan Bell

1201
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 1: stuffed turnover on downs. And here's the thing. I don't

1202
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 1: think Arizona looked very very good in this game until

1203
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: the offense opened up down the stretch. I know that

1204
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray through for more yards than he has in

1205
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: any other game. You can watch this and tell me

1206
01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: if it looked that way. I still see an offer

1207
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: is trying to figure out how they can be what

1208
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,919
Speaker 1: they want to be. And Kyler Murray, um, he's gonna

1209
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 1: do Kyler Murray things. And I mean they are giving

1210
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: the ball to DeAndre Hopkins at an incredible rate at

1211
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: this point in Hopkins had a Hopkins game down the stretch.

1212
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: And you know that you didn't have to do much

1213
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: against this Jets team. But I would look at the

1214
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: Cardinals to me, are not that fun to watch, um

1215
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: just from a if you're just sitting there casually checking

1216
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 1: them out. Compared to what I thought they would be.

1217
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 1: I think they've got a ways to go. Um Kenyan

1218
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 1: Drake to me is a hot and cold act. I mean,

1219
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: they're just you know it's it's October, and they do

1220
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 1: not look like a finished product. And they might have

1221
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: lost Chandler Jones for the season. That's probably the biggest

1222
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 1: thing that came out of it for them. WHOA, So

1223
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 1: that's another big one. So you get you get Kirk

1224
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: and Edmonds and more involved, which I think people wanted

1225
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: to see. You get twenty eight first downs, but losing Jones. Look,

1226
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 1: this is a team that's only won eight games um

1227
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: in the last two seasons combined. So being three and two,

1228
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 1: you don't sneeze at that. But yeah, I think the

1229
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: ceiling feels a little lower than than we thought with

1230
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: this Cardinals. And if you listen to our preview show,

1231
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 1: for the first time in my ten years in NFL media,

1232
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 1: I did not draft the Jets in the preview. I

1233
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: didn't watch them really on Sunday. Wasn't it better I

1234
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: had in the corner of my eye. It was a

1235
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 1: much better experience, But obviously not I'm not gonna, you know,

1236
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 1: fill out a dossier like West did and quit on

1237
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: the Jets, but I'm not gonna watch them if it's

1238
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: an Adam Gays coached team with Joe Flacco at quarterback,

1239
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: there's nothing there for me to learn. There's no entertainment

1240
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 1: to be had, and I much rather watch the Steelers

1241
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: and Eagles and the Raiders and Chiefs in the early

1242
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: slot at just the way it's gonna be. The Jets

1243
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 1: have failed, and I've I've said this too many times

1244
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,439
Speaker 1: over the past five or six years on this podcast. Now,

1245
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 1: the Jets are failing and their only real job is

1246
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: to provide entertainment to the fans that pump millions and

1247
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,919
Speaker 1: millions of dollars into their enterprise. They can't even put

1248
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 1: a competitive team on the field. UM, So why should

1249
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 1: any Jets fans support them? Um? And I choose to

1250
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: support them from a distance. I support Sam Donald and

1251
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 1: I want to see him back on the field and

1252
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: hopefully he'll be back on the field next week, although

1253
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 1: that's no given. But here's before we throw it in

1254
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 1: the next game, just some stats to tell you how

1255
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 1: bad this team is, because this is the worst Jets

1256
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: team I've ever seen, and then includes co tight Jets. Uh.

1257
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 1: They've been outscored one six to seventy five. They've lost

1258
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: every game by two or more possessions. Their offenses scored

1259
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: more than seventeen points once their defense is allowed at

1260
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 1: least twenty seven points every game. That from Connor Hughes

1261
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:36,959
Speaker 1: of the Athletic Dark Dark Days and Bill Parcels ain't

1262
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 1: walking through that door. Let's move on on. Starting four,

1263
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: Atlanta blitz is Joe Brady bridge Water goes left wing,

1264
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: con hit the yard line, down the sideline more forty

1265
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 1: to the thirty. D J. Moore's got a convoy and

1266
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 1: he'll social distance into the end zone for a touchdown

1267
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: because of course gone right down the tunnel. He continue

1268
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 1: to find right on the site. What a great value,

1269
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 1: what a great I needed. It's bringing me, bring me

1270
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 1: back to light, bringing me, bring me back to light.

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01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:17,959
Speaker 1: Please come, come, Come, Come come. Mcmixing with the called

1272
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: w BT. Denny Bridgewater delivered another solid performance and d J.

1273
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 1: Moore and Robby Anderson could find for more than two

1274
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 1: yards receiving including that long more TV and a twenty

1275
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 1: three to sixteen win for the Panthers over the house

1276
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: cleaning Atlanta Falcons. That's three wins in a row for

1277
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 1: Matt Rules Panthers without Christian McCaffrey. And we're gonna get

1278
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 1: to the Panthers and give them they're just Dukes. They're

1279
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 1: playing very well right now. But let's start with the

1280
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 1: big news that came down Sunday night the Atlanta Falcons,

1281
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 1: something that a lot of people were expecting to happen,

1282
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: maybe even sooner than this, but it happens now. After

1283
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:58,959
Speaker 1: Week five, Dan Quinn out as head coach. The team

1284
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 1: has also fired long time g M Thomas Demetrough. That

1285
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 1: leaves CEO Rich McKay in charge of the football operations.

1286
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: Welcome back Nick Shook as well. Uh start here, Shook.

1287
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 1: The Falcons, they just they needed to win. They couldn't

1288
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 1: get it with They couldn't get it going this season,

1289
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 1: and uh, Quinn saved his job with a strong finished

1290
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 1: last year, but there was no saving at this time around. Yeah.

1291
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: I mean it's a situation where things were kind of

1292
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 1: about to go off. The rails are pretty close, and

1293
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,919
Speaker 1: um this this appeared to be the final blow, uh

1294
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 1: in that pursuit. It's kind of sad because the Falcons

1295
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:39,439
Speaker 1: last year, you know, they finished the season pretty strong

1296
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 1: and looked like they were promising and maybe they be

1297
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 1: able to turn a corner going into this year and

1298
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 1: they just haven't been able to do it. I mean,

1299
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 1: whether it's been blowing leads, which they've done twice, or

1300
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: just just not putting together strong performances. Um, it just

1301
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 1: hasn't reflected well on it. Well, they do that every year.

1302
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: Finished strong. It's the story of that dan Quinn era.

1303
01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 1: Start bad, finished strong, not overcome you're in juries, and

1304
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 1: it's tough. You feel for him. He's obviously a good dude.

1305
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn and Thomas Dimitroff took over in two thousand

1306
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 1: and eight. First draft pick was Matt Ryan. You do

1307
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 1: wonder about his future. Um Dimitrof, you know, led them

1308
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: to easily the best twelve years in the franchise history.

1309
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: It's not even close. But Arthur Blank, who's at the game,

1310
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 1: of course, he comes down at the sideline. How can

1311
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 1: he not help but compare his sideline to the Panthers

1312
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 1: who have a brand new head coaching staff, and they're

1313
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 1: much more efficient and well run on offense. And then

1314
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 1: I think about the Panthers defense, who lost four starters

1315
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 1: during this game, Uh gross, Matos, Brian Burns, Dante Jackson,

1316
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 1: Kwan Short And you know what they did. They held

1317
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 1: They hold the Falcons the sixteen points. They're resourceful, they

1318
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 1: can overcome injuries. It's not like, Okay, that's the excuse

1319
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 1: for their team. And you feel for Quinn because I

1320
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: mean at some point that he just had terrible luck.

1321
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 1: I mean, he had terrible luck in the Super Bowl.

1322
01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 1: It was luck and design. He had terrible luck this

1323
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: this year too, with the some of the onset kick

1324
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 1: in the way those comebacks came. But that luck is

1325
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 1: part of the game. And ultimately they just were pretty

1326
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: mediocre for the last three years. And it gives Arthur

1327
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 1: Blanka a head start. Pretty interesting, Rich McKay is they're

1328
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:16,679
Speaker 1: picking the next coach man talk about a survivor. He

1329
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 1: he got fired for Dimotroft to come in. He's like,

1330
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 1: you know, he's like Easterby before easter By. Well, I

1331
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 1: mean he he got nailed for fake crowd noise before

1332
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:29,759
Speaker 1: fake crowd noise was a league mandated essential heading into

1333
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 1: this season. But I would say this about Dan Quinn

1334
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 1: because you know, I know that he was um a

1335
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 1: fascination of mine when he became their head coach. Chris

1336
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 1: Wesley fell into that spell too, And but I don't

1337
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 1: think it's a spell. I think he's a good He's like,

1338
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 1: it's the kind of thing like these guys. Dan Quinn

1339
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 1: knows more about football than like like nine percent of

1340
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:54,600
Speaker 1: America and it and and Thomas de mitch Roff. It

1341
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 1: tracks back to prehistoric days with Bill Belichick's Browns, who

1342
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 1: we talked about. These guys are not lacking for knowledge

1343
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 1: or skill, but the marriage of GM head coach and

1344
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 1: head coach. The path of a head coach is um

1345
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,600
Speaker 1: very unpredictable, no matter how good you are at it.

1346
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 1: And I don't think dan Quinn is someone that players disliked.

1347
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: It was the opposite, and like he was someone that

1348
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: owners all around the league wanted to interview. And there's

1349
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 1: people this year that will pop up in the same way,

1350
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 1: and they'll they'll be, you know, high, they'll be highly

1351
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 1: regarded going into year one, year two, and year three.

1352
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 1: But you don't want to run into Matt Rule, because

1353
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury told you last week. You know, Matt Rule

1354
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 1: got him fired back in the college days, and now

1355
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 1: he's now You've run into dan Quinn and he mows

1356
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:40,600
Speaker 1: down these guys. But on a serious note, I just

1357
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 1: think that dan Quinn is a good coach who couldn't

1358
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 1: deliver on But here's the thing we always pull you know,

1359
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 1: we always pull these courts. We've always pull these head

1360
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 1: coaches from mostly successful programs. This is the defensive coordinator

1361
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 1: of the super Bowl winning Seahawks. But then translating that

1362
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 1: and taking that to the next place tells us more

1363
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 1: about Pete Carroll than it does about Dan Quinn. I mean,

1364
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 1: it's not easy to duplicate. He did well, he made it.

1365
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: He almost he should have won a super Bowl, and

1366
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 1: he won a couple. You know, you want to playoff

1367
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 1: game the next year. But he's a defensive coaches. Defenses

1368
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 1: were why are you why are you like giving me this?

1369
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 1: Like he was the defense and he's a defensive coach.

1370
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 1: It shows the cyclical nature of the NFL. Like just

1371
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 1: like Bill O'Brien fired this week. Once upon a time,

1372
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 1: you know, he was the guy that you know, saved

1373
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:36,480
Speaker 1: programs and was the face of a very difficult situation,

1374
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 1: was championed in Houston as this guy that's brought life

1375
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 1: to the organization. And Dan Quinn was the head coach.

1376
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 1: And I know Kyle Shannon got a lot of credit

1377
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl run, but you know he was

1378
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 1: a scene as a great hire at the time, and

1379
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 1: everybody loved him, and it just you know, these firings

1380
01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 1: remind you that you're you're you're hot, and then from

1381
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 1: nine out of ten guys, you're eventually not and everyone

1382
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 1: thinks you're nothing. Uh So it's you know, it's a

1383
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: tough situation for Quinn and Dimitrov who had plenty of

1384
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 1: time there, but also tough for him obviously, uh that

1385
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 1: it's ending this way. And yeah, you have to wonder

1386
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 1: with Matt Ryan. They're getting a little older and obviously

1387
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 1: this seems like a franchise ready to hit the reset button.

1388
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 1: What comes next there? They they're very interesting and beyond

1389
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:30,640
Speaker 1: they could trade a lot of people. I don't know

1390
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 1: if they would trade Matt Ryan before the trading deadline,

1391
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 1: which is in a few weeks, but Tach McKinley's a

1392
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,639
Speaker 1: free agent. I don't think they would. But I'm just saying,

1393
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 1: what do you think? What do you think about it? Um?

1394
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 1: But they have a lot of veterans too that they

1395
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 1: could trade, and they they are the you know, ultimate

1396
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 1: candidate to trade some veterans away at this point. And

1397
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 1: we should give some credit, uh to the Panthers who

1398
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 1: are absolutely thriving right now and they're like I said

1399
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 1: three and oh without Christian McCaffrey, and right now, Matt

1400
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 1: Rule has this team on a very good path. Yeah,

1401
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 1: I I was so impressed. You know, they lose these defenders,

1402
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan makes some mental errors and miss throws and

1403
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 1: an interception, uh in the red zone with you know,

1404
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 1: about eleven minutes left, and the Panthers then just go

1405
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: on a six or seven minute drive where it's Mike

1406
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: Davis on fourth down. Mike Davis has three sixty one

1407
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 1: yards from scrimmage. The last three weeks, Teddy Bridgewater and

1408
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 1: this team are so fast offensively, you know, Robby Anderson

1409
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 1: and more and Teddy and they play fast with a tempo,

1410
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,679
Speaker 1: but they can slow it down to they're they're pretty

1411
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 1: and they're an interesting team. They can speed it up,

1412
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 1: they can slow it down, and they slowed it down

1413
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 1: right at the end, and they just killed the clock

1414
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 1: on these third and shorts in Atlanta. Was was not

1415
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:52,599
Speaker 1: tough enough for them, it was. It was a fairly

1416
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 1: decisive victory despite you know, only a touchdown final score.

1417
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 1: It's been a very exciting couple of weeks for the

1418
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 1: supporters of Joe Brady and anybody who had doubted that

1419
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 1: higher of a young guy who you know, coordinated the

1420
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 1: passing game at L s U and how could he

1421
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 1: make the transition the NFL. He has shown in the

1422
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 1: last two weeks that he is very well suited for

1423
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 1: this and and there's a big reason why the Panthers

1424
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 1: have been able to rip off two wins in a row.

1425
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:18,719
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what, a Uh, I got some credit.

1426
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 1: You know, we we bury him here as the last

1427
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 1: game before Sunday Night Football each and every week, and

1428
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 1: now they're they're even buried in this game recap because

1429
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,680
Speaker 1: a coach got fired. The Panther some credit. Hey, but

1430
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 1: first time, long time, I got a theory here. Uh.

1431
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 1: You know, not a lot of people talking about this,

1432
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 1: but uh, that that McCaffrey guy, I think you might

1433
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 1: have been the problem. The problem could be you theory.

1434
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Sunday Night Football. You know

1435
01:13:46,880 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 1: there are people that think that too leg Sunday Night

1436
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 1: touchdown that is an unbelievable druve. You gotta be kidding me.

1437
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 1: You've got to be kidding me. Al Michaels with the

1438
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 1: call after a stuff on fourth and inches that kept

1439
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,759
Speaker 1: the Vikings from running out the clock. In the final

1440
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 1: two minutes. The Seattle Seahawks takeover at their own six

1441
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 1: yard line with one time out and a little under

1442
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 1: two minutes to play, and they go thirteen plays ninety

1443
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 1: four yards in a minute forty two tap by that

1444
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 1: DK met cart bk metcaft touchdown the go ahead touched

1445
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 1: on the game winning touchdown in a win for the

1446
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 1: Seahawks over the Vikings. Mark That is obviously a great

1447
01:14:55,600 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 1: win for Seahawks and Seahawks fans and Russell will some

1448
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 1: m VP candidacy, But what a killer loss for the Vikings.

1449
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Well, I think these are two like

1450
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 1: movie characters playing the script. We've seen this film multiple times.

1451
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 1: I mean, my my takeaway from more like a global

1452
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 1: level is that the Seahawks are a team that can

1453
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 1: play the worst half they've played all season and overcome it.

1454
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:27,679
Speaker 1: And the Vikings are a team that can be against

1455
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 1: Seattle and have Seattle's worst half and not overcome it.

1456
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 1: And yeah, you know, we've like you just take it

1457
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:35,799
Speaker 1: for granted that Seattle is going to find a way

1458
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 1: to get down there at the end, And there was

1459
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 1: definitely and I know that there you know, are my

1460
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 1: friend Patrick Claiband does not like the momentum thing, but

1461
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 1: I felt I do believe in a little bit, and

1462
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 1: I felt a momentum shift when Dalvin Cook went out

1463
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 1: of this game. And what happened. You have them up

1464
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 1: thirteen nothing and Seattle just climbed the way back in

1465
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:58,639
Speaker 1: and they used Will disliked Greg Olsen early on, and

1466
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 1: they recover the Cousin fumble they scored two plays later.

1467
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 1: Cousins is then picked off by kJ Wright, who had

1468
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 1: a pretty crazy games tonight, and bang, suddenly it's like

1469
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 1: you're like you're if you're a Vikings fan, you're thinking,

1470
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 1: I've seen this a thousand times. If you're a Seahawks fan,

1471
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 1: you're thinking, I'm nervous as always, but I've seen this

1472
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 1: a thousand times. Suddenly you're about to cough up two

1473
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 1: straight long touchdown drive to Kirk Cousins. That was what

1474
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 1: was crazy. After that moment, when you think it's like Cousins,

1475
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 1: you know, gets himself together. You think they're just gonna

1476
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 1: totally choke, and he has two awesome long drives to

1477
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 1: put himself in position to put themselves on the third

1478
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 1: drive then into that fourth in one situation and I

1479
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 1: like that they went for It's not just because of

1480
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 1: the numbers, it was because of the situation that that

1481
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 1: night they were they were they were winning. Those those

1482
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 1: fourth thounds in the first half that they got are

1483
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 1: the reason that they were ahead, and they were so

1484
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 1: good running the ball, and if Dalvin Cook was in

1485
01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 1: the game, he would have just bounced it outside. I mean,

1486
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 1: the whole is right there for Madison. But of course

1487
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 1: they didn't make it. They didn't stop a fourth and

1488
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 1: tenor and they didn't they You're right, the Vikings like

1489
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 1: didn't completely the tent, didn't just get swept away by

1490
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:12,680
Speaker 1: a tornado, like they were still around. But did you

1491
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 1: trust that Kirk Cousins and the Vikings were gonna win

1492
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 1: this game? Because when we were heading into the that's

1493
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 1: all I'm saying that I'm agreeing with me there, of course,

1494
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 1: And in the minute, even though I thought it was

1495
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 1: a good idea to go for it unfourth and short,

1496
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: I just we're like, oh, they'll probably wind up losing

1497
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 1: this game. Now, I'm not going to defend a ship

1498
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 1: that appears to be taking on water. But I mean,

1499
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 1: the Vikings showed some serious resilience in this game. I

1500
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 1: mean the finish at the end of the first half,

1501
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 1: and then and then the way that you know, losing

1502
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook and the way that the Seahawks rebounded, you know,

1503
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 1: early in the second half. I mean, that would have

1504
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 1: wiped out a lot of teams. And even though you're

1505
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 1: not dealing with the crowd in Seattle and everything else,

1506
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 1: you lose your best running back, the momentum shift like

1507
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 1: you had mentioned Mark, and yet they still found a

1508
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 1: way to take the lead, and they were in position

1509
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 1: to win this game. And now some people might debate

1510
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 1: the whole kick the field goal go off by eight,

1511
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:04,600
Speaker 1: even if they go down score touchdown, they gotta go

1512
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 1: for two or going for it on fourth down. And

1513
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 1: you're right, they did miss Dalvin Cook there, but I

1514
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:11,679
Speaker 1: mean they do deserve some credit. It's just a bomber

1515
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 1: that it one in four. I mean there, it's going

1516
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 1: to take a hurculean effort to get back into I mean,

1517
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 1: it took up perfect play by the two best players

1518
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 1: in football maybe to beat him in that fourth. And

1519
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 1: that's kind of been their season. Like they've had some

1520
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 1: ugly performances, but they've also been in some situations where

1521
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 1: you're like, I just wish they could get over the hump,

1522
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 1: and and there were one in four. I mean, it's

1523
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 1: a terrible position to be in at this point. You

1524
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 1: think they would have more wins at this point, uh,

1525
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 1: considering their team, but it's just not there. This was

1526
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 1: an awesome performance for like fifteen minutes of game time.

1527
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:45,639
Speaker 1: They were up thirteen nothing at the half in Seattle

1528
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,680
Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson at the peak of his powers. They

1529
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 1: put it was a brilliant first half defensively, and they

1530
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 1: moved the ball and up on offense put up points.

1531
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 1: And then it goes from thirteen nothing from ten minutes

1532
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 1: of the third quarter untill eight minutes in the third quarter.

1533
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 1: It went from up nothing to down including the Chris

1534
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 1: Carson run, were just runs over the defense and you

1535
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 1: just think, oh, it's over. This is going to turn

1536
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 1: into a blowout for the Seahawks. But for them then

1537
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 1: to mount in eleven play seventy seven yard drive, a

1538
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 1: fifth for a touchdown, a fifteen play nineties seven yard

1539
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 1: drive for a touchdown, and the interception of Wilson in there,

1540
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 1: get the ball back and run it all the way

1541
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 1: down to the goal line, not be able to get

1542
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 1: the foot and then give up the nineties seven yard

1543
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 1: ninety four yard touchdown drive like that is to me,

1544
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 1: like it's unreal, and fourth and longs and on the

1545
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:41,639
Speaker 1: game winning play ahead of bow has Russell Wilson dead

1546
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 1: two rights that he pulled up because he was afraid

1547
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 1: of getting a roughing the passer call, and he just

1548
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 1: he just had a free shot. Literally no one dropped

1549
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 1: blocked him on the play, and Wilson delivers just a

1550
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 1: perfect pass and an even better catch by Metcalf. I mean,

1551
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 1: you gotta kind of just give them credit for just

1552
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 1: being better. Oh my god, four a minute time of

1553
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 1: possession for the Vikings up. We spent every preview show

1554
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 1: we're saying Seattle can't rush the passer, they're deficient on defense,

1555
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 1: they don't have Jamal Adams, they can't do anything. They're

1556
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 1: they're a half big defense. And then it's like it

1557
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. They still everyone thought that, you know, expected

1558
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 1: them to win this game. But you're right, Mark, because

1559
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 1: I think this was Mike Zimmer's like dream game if

1560
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 1: you if you can't win, like he loves being so

1561
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,679
Speaker 1: run heavy, And I was a little worried at half time, thinking, wow,

1562
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:33,640
Speaker 1: they see your point Mark, they played absolutely perfect, but

1563
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 1: you're only up thirteen, Like you should be up more

1564
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 1: if you play perfect, and in terms of the long

1565
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 1: drives and the play count and the time. But like

1566
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 1: that's what Mike Zimmer wants and you still lose that

1567
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 1: game and fifty yards of offense for the Vikings. Dalvin

1568
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 1: Cook was eating before you got that, and then Madison

1569
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 1: goes twenty for one twelve. I mean, if you play

1570
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 1: that game ten times, I don't know how many times

1571
01:20:57,080 --> 01:21:00,120
Speaker 1: Seattle wins it, but it does speak to the times

1572
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 1: of Russell. But I think what I think what you're missing, Mark,

1573
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:06,759
Speaker 1: was like this, this was not a typical Vikings effort

1574
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 1: from two thousand twenty. Like this, I'm not saying it's

1575
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 1: typical effort, but it's not. I'm not talking about the Vikings.

1576
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the Seahawks. Yeah, I'm talking about the

1577
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 1: Seahawks that we want to we want to we want

1578
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 1: to credit the Vikings as resilient. The Seahawks are the

1579
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 1: most resilient team around. They whatever happened to them, they

1580
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 1: that's fine, you can worry about them. But like we're

1581
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 1: not gonna We're not labeling the Vikings. It's more resilient

1582
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 1: than the Seahawks. They're completely different in that territory based

1583
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 1: on end results and and to pay you back off

1584
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 1: that too. There's a defining trade with teams that that

1585
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 1: end up with, you know, as a losing team. And

1586
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:45,519
Speaker 1: this Vikings team, at least twice, if not three times,

1587
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 1: has built itself early leads. Has gotten stops in Week one,

1588
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 1: they did against Green Bay twice and they can't close.

1589
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,720
Speaker 1: And even in this situation, they couldn't close. So you know,

1590
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 1: going against a team like Seattle with Russell Wilson at quarterback,

1591
01:21:57,560 --> 01:21:59,600
Speaker 1: if you can't close against other teams, you're definitely not

1592
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 1: gonna win that game. Even if they have to go

1593
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 1: ninety four yards, even if they have to convert a

1594
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 1: long or a fourth and long, even if they have

1595
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 1: to score the touchdown pass on fourth and goal with

1596
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 1: a guy bearing down in your quarterback, it becomes indicative

1597
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 1: of a team you are, and that's who the Vikings are.

1598
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 1: One yard. Just get the one yard and you have

1599
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 1: the biggest win of your season. You're two and three.

1600
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 1: But they couldn't do it, and I think everyone kind

1601
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 1: of had a vibe what was going to happen once

1602
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 1: they got stuff there because you give Wilson the ball back.

1603
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:28,640
Speaker 1: The funny thing about him was he knew it and

1604
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 1: they got to two fourth and longs. That was the thing.

1605
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 1: Is everything possible? So amazing the thing that they got

1606
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 1: the ball back and then they like, oh, they only

1607
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 1: have one time out. They don't even need the time out.

1608
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 1: They got off to the goal the time out and

1609
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 1: they didn't get any long penalty or anything. It was

1610
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,679
Speaker 1: just like, it's that easy for this offense right now.

1611
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 1: That was not cooking for most of the game because

1612
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 1: they didn't really have the ball just then. Incredible win

1613
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 1: for the Seahawks and a crushing loss for the Vikings.

1614
01:22:57,080 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 1: All right, wow, big Sunday. Two coaches fired in six days.

1615
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 1: Maybe the Jets will get around firing their guy at

1616
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:11,639
Speaker 1: some point. That'd be cool. Um, it's like week five.

1617
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 1: This is like everyone's in a in a big hurry.

1618
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 1: So everyone's like, oh, it's Corona year. We're gonna be

1619
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 1: really at least coaches are going through a lot. We're

1620
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 1: gonna be real gentle with them, you know, kid gloves bang,

1621
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 1: Like two were gone and it's not even like Halloween. Um,

1622
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 1: all right, we'll be back on Tuesday with our next episode,

1623
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 1: of course, and that will also be a recap of

1624
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 1: the the Monday Night for I don't even know what

1625
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 1: the Monday night game is anymore. I don't even know

1626
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 1: what's happening with the schedule saying we're back to our

1627
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,600
Speaker 1: normal Monday night no Broncos, so it's just back to

1628
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 1: just a Tuesday night game or Tuesday evening game Bill now, yeah,

1629
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 1: Bill's Titans, which you know by the time people listen

1630
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:55,600
Speaker 1: to this, who knows. I can't keep track of this,

1631
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 1: but we'll just keep covering the sport until it's either

1632
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 1: not here or continues to stay here. Shook, thank you

1633
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 1: again for pitching in. We appreciate you as always always.

1634
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 1: All right, Uh, this is Dan hands a signing off

1635
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 1: for Nick Show, The Quiet Storm, The Old Boss, and

1636
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood sitting on that oh and five. My goodness,

1637
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 1: she needs to win in a big way. Check out

1638
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 1: the Thursday show for that. Maybe she'll lock it up

1639
01:24:23,040 --> 01:25:04,759
Speaker 1: until Tuesday. S