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Speaker 1: Hi, how is everyone doing today? Bethany here, you're listening

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Speaker 1: to just be with Bethany Frankel. So the holidays, if

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Speaker 1: what do you do for the holidays? Where you going?

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Speaker 1: You going away? Uh? Did I am? I? Like, did

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Speaker 1: I'm not going away. One guy sent me a picture

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving and said, wow, look at the airport, like as

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Speaker 1: And I was. I said, well, yeah, that's because Fauci said.

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Speaker 1: It's wildly irrespond table to be traveling right now, Like

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Speaker 1: So where am I going? I think I'm going nowhere.

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Speaker 1: I'm going nowhere fast. I just don't see the need

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Speaker 1: I do really comfortablice. Of yes, I may not always

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Speaker 1: where the heart is. I've heard that my whole life,

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Speaker 1: and having good friends to talk to and making life

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Speaker 1: what you think is important, particularly during this challenging time.

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Speaker 1: Um or just not not cutting people out, maybe just

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Speaker 1: sort of distancing yourself from things that feel negative and

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Speaker 1: focusing on the positives. We can run our businesses in

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Speaker 1: And for me, it's as as the world and the

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Speaker 1: sitting still. So this is major. Maria Striver is a legend,

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Speaker 1: the ultimate interviewer, a seasoned journalist, a philanthropist for years.

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Speaker 1: She is so interesting, so gentle, so beautiful inside and out.

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Speaker 1: We discuss our identities as a woman, we discuss the

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Speaker 1: So I think you're going to enjoy it. She's founded

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Speaker 1: the women's Alzheimer's Movement, She's won a Peabody Award and

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Speaker 1: this conversation with you. Oh my god, Hi Maria, because

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Speaker 1: And so the worlds that I've navigated, be a journalism

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Speaker 1: Thank you for inviting me into talk about my own

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Speaker 1: So I appreciate it very much, and I love you

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Speaker 1: so much. We all keep talking here about how these

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Speaker 1: wait to talk to you next week. Just Be is

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