WEBVTT - Ep. 1046: Foundations - How Big Bucks Make People Really, Really Stupid

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide

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<v Speaker 1>to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, presented by first Light,

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<v Speaker 1>First Light Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your host

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Peterson.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey everyone, welcome to the Wire to Hunt Foundation's podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>which is brought to you by First Light. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Peterson, and today's episode is all about big bucks,

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<v Speaker 2>poaching egos, and the dark side of this whole white

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<v Speaker 2>tail thing. I'm always amazed at how often people tell

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<v Speaker 2>me stories about poaching deer and other critters. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not talking about people in my life. We have your

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<v Speaker 2>relationship with here, but strangers that shows and who I

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<v Speaker 2>just run into throughout life. It's wild, and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of it is kind of an inherited willingness to break

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<v Speaker 2>some rules, it seems like, while there are just others

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<v Speaker 2>that just seem to revel in coloring outside the lines

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<v Speaker 2>whenever they can. It's weird, but not as weird as

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<v Speaker 2>the link some go to when killing a big bucket possible.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what this episode is all about, So buckle up.

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<v Speaker 2>There is an ethical question that has floated around amongst

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<v Speaker 2>humans for a long time, possibly in some form for

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<v Speaker 2>as long as we've been able to communicate. It's one

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<v Speaker 2>that you've probably heard, which is basically, if a person

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<v Speaker 2>is starving, is it wrong to steal a loaf of bread?

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<v Speaker 2>Presumably the loaf of bread is owned by someone who

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<v Speaker 2>has lots of bread. Most people answer this as a no,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not that hard to argue with, although it

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<v Speaker 2>can be done. This ethical dilemma is one that has

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<v Speaker 2>been bent and twisted over time to absolve people of

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<v Speaker 2>their guilt for stealing even when they aren't starving.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Take something like password sharing on a streaming service, for example.

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<v Speaker 2>This is real common and it is stealing, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>also easy to look at a company like Netflix or

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<v Speaker 2>Disney and say that they make enough money they can

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<v Speaker 2>handle it. I don't know if there is a correlation

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<v Speaker 2>between people who commit small theft like that and who

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<v Speaker 2>have ever run a business for themselves, but I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be surprised if there is, because when you run a business,

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<v Speaker 2>you find out quickly that a certain percentage of people

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<v Speaker 2>will rip you off every chance that they can. If

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<v Speaker 2>you have a platform and somewhat of a voice, you'll

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<v Speaker 2>find another subset of people who will gladly try to

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<v Speaker 2>use you for their own gains. It's how people are.

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<v Speaker 2>But the question of stealing bread to feed a starving

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<v Speaker 2>family and will never have a totally correct answer, because

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<v Speaker 2>depending on who you are, there are different ways to

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<v Speaker 2>justify behavior. But what about if that loaf of bread

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<v Speaker 2>is actually a one hundred and ninety inch buck and

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<v Speaker 2>the bakery owner isn't actually a bakery owner, but a

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<v Speaker 2>landowner who won't let you hunt where the big buck lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Or maybe we can look at the state as the bakery,

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<v Speaker 2>and all of the antler loaves of bread out there

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<v Speaker 2>are baked to be distributed equally amongst the citizens of

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<v Speaker 2>that state, and instead of taking their fair share, someone

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<v Speaker 2>takes more because they really like the biggest loaf of bread,

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<v Speaker 2>and lots of people will think they are really cool

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<v Speaker 2>for eating it. All Right, enough of that desin grading metaphor,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know what I mean. Poaching is an issue

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<v Speaker 2>in deer hunting, and the cases that get the most

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<v Speaker 2>attention are the ones you'd expect the most, the ones

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<v Speaker 2>involving giant bucks, because well, we all love giant bucks,

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<v Speaker 2>and we all recognize that giant bucks make people do

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<v Speaker 2>really dumb shit. You might all have a somewhat fresh

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<v Speaker 2>memory of that fella down in Ohio who in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three killed a monster eighteen point buck that scored

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<v Speaker 2>over two hundred and thirty five inches. While it's crazy

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<v Speaker 2>that a two hundred inch deer doesn't really make headlines

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<v Speaker 2>that much anymore, a buck that tapes out at two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and thirty five just does, and rightfully so. There

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<v Speaker 2>aren't more than a handful of them on the landscape

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<v Speaker 2>in the whole country in any given fall, at least

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<v Speaker 2>outside of ten foot high fences. That buck became the

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<v Speaker 2>talk of the town, particular because the dude who shot

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<v Speaker 2>it wanted to talk to everyone he could about how

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<v Speaker 2>big it was and how awesome he was for killing it.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're going to try to promote yourself for

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<v Speaker 2>being a big buck killer, you should probably also be

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<v Speaker 2>aren't enough to lie competently if you didn't kill it legally.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy didn't seem to have the mental horsepower to

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<v Speaker 2>pull that off, and his story started to unravel pretty quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>The twenty eight year old said he killed the buck

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<v Speaker 2>on his sister's property with a crossbow, but cell phone

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<v Speaker 2>data revealed that he killed at ten miles away on

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<v Speaker 2>a private chunk of ground he did not have permission,

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<v Speaker 2>don he did have the wherewithal to bring the dead

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<v Speaker 2>buck to his sisters in stage a kill scene, but

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't enough to get away with the ruse now.

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<v Speaker 2>He ended up getting charged with illegally hunting without permission

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<v Speaker 2>and then taking possession of a deer under those circumstances,

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<v Speaker 2>He got charged with a couple accounts of hunting without

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<v Speaker 2>a license because I guess, why not go all in?

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<v Speaker 2>He got charged with a bunch of other stuff too,

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<v Speaker 2>including three counts of theft by deception. He also managed

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<v Speaker 2>to rope in a couple other geniuses in his family

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<v Speaker 2>and friend group to face charges themselves after helping him.

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<v Speaker 2>The big deer cases always get a lot of attention

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of scrutiny, but so do the ones

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<v Speaker 2>that seem to involve an almost serial killer level dedication

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<v Speaker 2>to poaching white tails. A good Exams sample of this

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<v Speaker 2>involves a fifty five year old dude down in Texas

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<v Speaker 2>who is facing seventy four criminal charges and is staring

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<v Speaker 2>at a real shit storm in his life for allegedly

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<v Speaker 2>killing at least thirteen bucks in three counties over a

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<v Speaker 2>time span of just eleven months between the fall of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four and the summer at twenty five. The whole

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<v Speaker 2>investigation in this case started after people began to find

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<v Speaker 2>headless whitetail buck carcasses in a couple of counties. Game

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<v Speaker 2>wardens called onto the scene started finding crossbow bolts stuck

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<v Speaker 2>in the carcasses, which is a real key piece of

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<v Speaker 2>evidence to leave layer out. Not only did this MENSA

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<v Speaker 2>member allegedly shoot a whole pile of extra bucks from

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<v Speaker 2>his vehicle with a crossbow, he kept the heads in

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<v Speaker 2>his freezer at home, which maybe could have been explained

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<v Speaker 2>away somehow, although I don't know how, but a hell

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<v Speaker 2>of a lot of them were in velvet still, which

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't really jive with the Texas hunting seasons much now.

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<v Speaker 2>As a side note here, this hugely beneficial to society

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<v Speaker 2>fella also had nearly six grams of meth on him

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<v Speaker 2>when the warden's caught up to him. To be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>this one might be less about big bucks making people

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<v Speaker 2>stupid and more about the intersection of someone who is

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<v Speaker 2>already really stupid and some whitetails. Maybe A better example

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<v Speaker 2>a big bucks turning normal brain function to sludge can

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<v Speaker 2>be found in the story of the Hollywood Buck, which

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<v Speaker 2>isn't about a black tail out in the hills of California,

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<v Speaker 2>but instead involved a monster non typical white tail that

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<v Speaker 2>liked to spend his time in the Hollywood Cemetery out

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<v Speaker 2>in Virginia, presumably because he felt he was safe from

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<v Speaker 2>real hunters and only probably had to dodge the ghosts

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<v Speaker 2>of hunters past that night. Well, one reel hunter, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess if you can call him, that decided that giant

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<v Speaker 2>graveyard creeper was too big to let live, and he

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<v Speaker 2>shot it with a fifty caliber muzzleloader. The thing about

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<v Speaker 2>this one is it's like most of the giant bucks

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<v Speaker 2>that are poached, the boacher couldn't help himself but seek

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<v Speaker 2>the limelight. Now, let's say you shoot a two year

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<v Speaker 2>old eight pointer in a cemetery and post a picture

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<v Speaker 2>of it. You might not get busted, but you'll also

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<v Speaker 2>won't get tons of praise and digital high fives from

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<v Speaker 2>people you will never meet and who actually don't care

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<v Speaker 2>about you at all. But if you kill a true

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<v Speaker 2>giant with a crazy, unique rack and a whole pile

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<v Speaker 2>of stickers and kickers that has been seen by tons

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<v Speaker 2>of people for years and photographed extensively. And then you

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<v Speaker 2>submit that picture to a Facebook page that has over

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<v Speaker 2>seventy thousand people follow it and which is dedicated to

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<v Speaker 2>showing off hunters kills, you might find out that quite

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<v Speaker 2>a few people will recognize the buck. It's almost mind

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<v Speaker 2>boggling to dig into some of the more high profile

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<v Speaker 2>cases of poaching that have hit the news in the

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<v Speaker 2>last ten years. I guess it's the way of the

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<v Speaker 2>criminal mind to think you can out smart law enforcement,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure there are a few crafty people out

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<v Speaker 2>there who have figured this out. But I happen to

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<v Speaker 2>be buddies with a conservation officer, and I have no

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<v Speaker 2>reason to believe he's way above average intelligence for conservation officers.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that might sound like it a dig at him,

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<v Speaker 2>but I mean the opposite. He's a very smart guy,

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<v Speaker 2>and the way he thinks about his job and his

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<v Speaker 2>approach to busting bad guys is just clever. I'd wager

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<v Speaker 2>than in mental chess. He has a significant advantage over

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of person who would kill a two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>inch buck illegally and try to get away with it

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<v Speaker 2>while also trying to get tons of credit for being

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<v Speaker 2>awesome at hunting. One such case that happened pretty close

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<v Speaker 2>to where I grew up in southeastern Minnesota, happened like

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen years ago when a nineteen year old killed a

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one point buck with his bow that was, by

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<v Speaker 2>all accounts, a frickin' toad. I mean, like the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of deer you or I will never see in the wild.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's because it wasn't a wild deer. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a pen raised buck that he whacked through the fence, tagged, registered,

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<v Speaker 2>and even brought to the taxidermist before someone made the

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<v Speaker 2>connection that a deer farmer was missing his antler livestock

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<v Speaker 2>and had a hole in his fence. Big bucks don't

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<v Speaker 2>just make dumb people poach more either. Big bucks are

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<v Speaker 2>a big problem for a lot of things in our lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Just think about this. If you've ever had a disagreement

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<v Speaker 2>with a neighboring landowner over deer, what did it involve?

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<v Speaker 2>That conservation officer buddy of mine, who is pretty sick

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<v Speaker 2>of what big bucks do to people, told me a

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<v Speaker 2>story one time about getting a call from a landowner

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<v Speaker 2>who said his neighbor had picked up a dead head

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<v Speaker 2>but hadn't gotten a possession tag for it. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people don't know this, and it's not consistent in

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<v Speaker 2>every state, but in some states, like Minnesota, we can't

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<v Speaker 2>just pick up a deadhead we find in the spring

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<v Speaker 2>while shed hunting. If it has part of the skull attached,

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<v Speaker 2>it needs a possession tag. This is one of those

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<v Speaker 2>laws that people look at like jaywalking or going sixty

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<v Speaker 2>in a fifty five. Sure it's technically illegal, but who

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<v Speaker 2>is going to call the game warden for a tag

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<v Speaker 2>over a skull they found out in the woods. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy called because his neighbor found one, and you

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<v Speaker 2>know why, because it was from you know, the big

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<v Speaker 2>neighborhood buck that everyone had on camera and everyone wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to kill. When the one landowner found it, the other

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<v Speaker 2>wanted him punished for not following the law. So my

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<v Speaker 2>buddy did an investigation, and while I don't remember the

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<v Speaker 2>exact details, I think he just confiscated the skull without

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<v Speaker 2>issuing a ticket since the guy cooperated. But then he

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<v Speaker 2>drove over to the landowner's house who had made the call.

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<v Speaker 2>In the first place, and while they were chatting, my

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<v Speaker 2>buddy noticed a whole bunch of skulls in the guy's garage.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess who also had a bunch of dead heads that

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<v Speaker 2>got confiscated that day. Big bucks make people dumb, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is not something that is a problem only outside

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<v Speaker 2>of the hunting industry either. Nothing riles up the masses

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<v Speaker 2>and pushes the hunting population into single aligned tribe quicker

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<v Speaker 2>than a hunting celebrity getting busted for killing a deer

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<v Speaker 2>illegally or in some cases, many deer illegally. One case

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<v Speaker 2>you might remember involved a guy who was real popular

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<v Speaker 2>for a short amount of time on outdoor television, but

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<v Speaker 2>who then shot a buck on camera, and while doing

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<v Speaker 2>his post shot interview, saw a much bigger buck and

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<v Speaker 2>he shot that one too. The problem was that he

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<v Speaker 2>only had one buck tag. Well, that was one of

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<v Speaker 2>his problems. He was also a grade ad beg who

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<v Speaker 2>treated his cameramen like they were trash people, which isn't

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<v Speaker 2>a great idea if those trash people also happen to

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<v Speaker 2>have digital proof of you shooting extra bucks just because

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<v Speaker 2>a bigger one stepped out after you shot a really

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<v Speaker 2>great deer, which you didn't work for at all. By

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<v Speaker 2>the way, I hear stories often and have no real

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<v Speaker 2>reason to doubt them. Of the links some industry folks

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<v Speaker 2>have gone to in order to keep Bucks on their properties.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of mind blowing things like high fencing two

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<v Speaker 2>or three sides of a property to keep bucks from

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<v Speaker 2>wandering onto the neighbors, but also being able to still

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<v Speaker 2>claim your hunting free range deer and are super awesome

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<v Speaker 2>at it. You hear about feeders set at a foot

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<v Speaker 2>past the minimum allowable distance from stands, that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>All this behavior leads back to ego and something that

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<v Speaker 2>is perceived to be gained from killing big Bucks. That

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<v Speaker 2>might be a one off event where you can get

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<v Speaker 2>your name in the history of books and maybe get

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<v Speaker 2>some praise and adoration at local deer classics and sports shows.

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<v Speaker 2>Or it might be really lucrative sponsorship deals in partnerships

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<v Speaker 2>if you have a big enough name or brand. But

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't have to manifest itself in criminal behavior or

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<v Speaker 2>even just kind of deceitful behavior that is still legal

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<v Speaker 2>but definitely wouldn't look great if you bragged about it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's also the hard truth that big Bucks can make

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<v Speaker 2>us all dumb in a bunch of different ways for yours. Truly,

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<v Speaker 2>giant deer have the tendency to shut off most of

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<v Speaker 2>the parts of my brain that I need in order

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<v Speaker 2>to complete simple tasks like I don't know, drawing and

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<v Speaker 2>aiming a bone in the same way I've done literally

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<v Speaker 2>thousands and thousands of times in my life. I won't

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<v Speaker 2>bore you with the stories of my buck fever troubles

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<v Speaker 2>over the years, because I've talked about that enough, but

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<v Speaker 2>I will say that at no point in my long

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<v Speaker 2>white tail career have I ever consistently, over a long

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<v Speaker 2>enough timeline involving enough encounters, not eventually totally fallen apart

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<v Speaker 2>on a shot on a big buck. I've killed a

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<v Speaker 2>fair amount of them, but I've let far more of

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<v Speaker 2>them go out of my life unscathed or lightly scathed,

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<v Speaker 2>or in some cases very scathed, but also capable of

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<v Speaker 2>walking great distances and hiding really well. They just do

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<v Speaker 2>something to us that we can't control, mostly because they

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<v Speaker 2>are so rare to encounter and so likely to get

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<v Speaker 2>the best of us when we do have one. Walk.

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<v Speaker 2>In almost every encounter with a big buck that I've had,

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<v Speaker 2>at least ones that were close enough to get me

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<v Speaker 2>to grab my bow. Have reminded me of the times

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<v Speaker 2>when I've been out in the spring turkey hunting and

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<v Speaker 2>just looked into my decoy spread randomly to see a

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<v Speaker 2>full strutter just doing this thing. It's like, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what they look like, you've killed them before, but when

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<v Speaker 2>they're suddenly ten or twenty yards away in real life,

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<v Speaker 2>it's almost hard to believe. And from the moment that

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<v Speaker 2>first sighting happens until they are dead or out of

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<v Speaker 2>your life for good. The brain melt just happened. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how to describe it any other way. I've

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<v Speaker 2>had encounters with big bucks that left me physically exhausted.

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<v Speaker 2>If I have to watch them for a long time

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<v Speaker 2>and they seem to be generally on a path in

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<v Speaker 2>my direction, I almost get to the point where I'm

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<v Speaker 2>mentally begging for them to come in so we can

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<v Speaker 2>get the whole thing over with. That happened to me

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<v Speaker 2>once on a booner on public land in Iowa, and

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<v Speaker 2>last year when I killed my best Wisconsin buck while

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<v Speaker 2>using a decoy. By the time the arrowflies, I'm ready

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<v Speaker 2>for it to be over, so my nervous system doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>just factory reset me. Honestly, you know, I'm a space geek,

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<v Speaker 2>and I firmly believe there's a lot more life out

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<v Speaker 2>there in the universe than some people do. But I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder if some of the alien abduction incidences are just

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<v Speaker 2>from people who had, you know, a reaction to something

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<v Speaker 2>the way I react to a prolonged encounter with a

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<v Speaker 2>big buck. You know, you black out, you wake up

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<v Speaker 2>with you're hunting, boots on the wrong feet, can't remember

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<v Speaker 2>what day it is. In some cases, your buck's a

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<v Speaker 2>little sore, you know, the usual stuff that happens when

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<v Speaker 2>a really solid deer walks in. But it doesn't even

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<v Speaker 2>have to be one hundred and eighty inchure to cause

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<v Speaker 2>that level of mental delamination. It just has to be

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<v Speaker 2>a deer that you really want to kill. You might

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<v Speaker 2>be just starting out like my kids and lose your

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<v Speaker 2>mind over a big wood spike or a tiny basket

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<v Speaker 2>rack six or eight pointer. The same rules apply according

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<v Speaker 2>to your definition of big. You might be a public

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<v Speaker 2>land hunter who sees three deer a year and who

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<v Speaker 2>has never killed a deer who suddenly sees just a nice,

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<v Speaker 2>long nosed, old dough heading down the trail in your

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<v Speaker 2>direction and then the firecrackers in your brain are gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get lit. It's wild what they do to us, and

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<v Speaker 2>honestly pretty cool as long as it doesn't send you

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<v Speaker 2>into the kind of territory where you break in every

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<v Speaker 2>law out there just to get a big set of

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<v Speaker 2>antlers in your hands. In fact, that feeling of losing

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<v Speaker 2>our minds and having a giant adrenaline dump over something

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<v Speaker 2>we think about all year but almost never ever happen

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<v Speaker 2>to see an encounter is one of the biggest reasons

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<v Speaker 2>to go out there. Even if we know that it's

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<v Speaker 2>most likely going to break the bucks away. Once in

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<v Speaker 2>a while it doesn't, and even when it does, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just the thing that simultaneously breaks our hearts but keeps

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<v Speaker 2>us coming back for more. And speaking of coming back

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<v Speaker 2>for more, that's what you should do next week, because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to talk about how I start to build

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<v Speaker 2>my fall plan this time of year and what you

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<v Speaker 2>can do to set yourself up for a successful deer

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<v Speaker 2>season while we are still a couple months out. That's

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<v Speaker 2>it for this episode. I'm Tony Peterson. This has been

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<v Speaker 2>the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast. As always, thank you

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