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<v Speaker 1>You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles. Well, James McDonald, RIXI,

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<v Speaker 1>Rei Jr. And Allen Tomanso on the Digital Soapbox Network

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<v Speaker 1>material witness on an aggregated Battery, I was a hang

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<v Speaker 1>gun and um they believe this might be in retaliation

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<v Speaker 1>to her testimony. All right, welcome to another episode of

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<v Speaker 1>The Gangster Chronicles. My name is Alex Alonso from Street

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<v Speaker 1>Gangs dot Com ak Street TV, where I interview gang members,

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<v Speaker 1>former and current gang members, hip hop artists, authors, entertainers,

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<v Speaker 1>and other influencers. And I'm here today with Reggie right,

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<v Speaker 1>Julia and James. And James is back. He is back

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<v Speaker 1>from Australia and we're gonna talk a little bit about that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just want everyone to know that this is

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<v Speaker 1>episode number twenty, and if you're new to the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>to do that? Listen what okay? Interrupting in and for

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<v Speaker 1>those nws, all right, we don't gotta start over because

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<v Speaker 1>we keep it real on this show. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why Reggie's interrupted me, but for those who don't have

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<v Speaker 1>tickets to our live show will be available through that website.

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<v Speaker 1>And Reggie still interrupted me, but also want um to

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<v Speaker 1>give our social media contexts. James McDonald could be found

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<v Speaker 1>on Facebook under James McDonald. You have two Facebook pages,

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<v Speaker 1>so it could be a little confusing. Well big j

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<v Speaker 1>uh thirty six thirty six okay. And your Instagram is

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<v Speaker 1>also the same, the same thing. You could also find

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<v Speaker 1>leave Me Alone. You can find Reggie Right Junr. And

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes they'll give us questions. You can find Reggie Right Jr.

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<v Speaker 1>On his face Facebook page Reggie Right Jr. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>also on Instagram under Reggie dot Right dot Jr. And

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<v Speaker 1>you can feed us some questions there. And I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook all under Alex Alonso. One

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<v Speaker 1>oh one. Al right, So before we get into our episode,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to do a couple of quick fact

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<v Speaker 1>checks from a couple of previous episodes. Actually episode number seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>which was called Rumors. Russell Pool died August nineteen, two fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>at the age of fifty eight. He died of an

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<v Speaker 1>aneurysm Oh, my goodness, this guy is clapping the death

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<v Speaker 1>of a person. I think we might have said he

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<v Speaker 1>died of a heart attack some but he died of

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<v Speaker 1>aneurism at the age of fifty eight, so he's relatively young.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was just and it was just a few

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<v Speaker 1>years ago on August nineteen. That was Reggie Wright clapping,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all that was wondering who that was. He's clapping the

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<v Speaker 1>death of murder, murder, trying to get my lively the

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<v Speaker 1>police do you should know as a former police officer,

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<v Speaker 1>you investigate DVDs and books. Okay, let me say this.

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<v Speaker 1>Here it is and I trying to keep you one

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<v Speaker 1>hunting on this. Yeah, this is why we are the

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<v Speaker 1>way we are today because we applauded it like this

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<v Speaker 1>and and we just don't give a funk about life.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a whole different understanding of life. As they're

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<v Speaker 1>coming from Australia. Those people do not live the way

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<v Speaker 1>we live. They do not think the way we think.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not accused people of false well I mean not

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<v Speaker 1>even that either. But it's every individual itself have to

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<v Speaker 1>learn and and just really understand theirselfs before they get

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<v Speaker 1>the applaud and death. What happens when when you die

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<v Speaker 1>and somebody applaud your death part You know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>My life insurance policy paid up, but your wife ain't

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<v Speaker 1>gonna like it, your kids ain't gonna like it. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. You never want to wish death

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<v Speaker 1>upon your worst enemy. You don't. You don't. And and

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<v Speaker 1>as a cop, I understand Russell Pool. Even before he

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<v Speaker 1>retired from the l ap D. He was going down

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<v Speaker 1>all these weird theories that had nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 1>bro It got personal. You don't even more. But how

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<v Speaker 1>many of his theories were wrong, Not just the Reggie

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<v Speaker 1>Wright theory, but all of it. I thought he had

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of other theories of got killed cooking ramparts

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<v Speaker 1>that I've been telling me, and that he's done showed

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<v Speaker 1>that never I've never known, I didn't have no connections

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<v Speaker 1>with all right, and that he could never prove so

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<v Speaker 1>he should have left it there. Well, we're gonna hear

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<v Speaker 1>more about your trip to Australia. James um more more

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<v Speaker 1>fact check Kevin gaines Um. He was actually shot and

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<v Speaker 1>killed at the intersection of Lancashim Inventura in Studio City,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the city of l a um Mark j

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<v Speaker 1>T s at the young age of thirty one. Damn.

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<v Speaker 1>He was born in sixty six, got killed in ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 1>He was also mentioned in the episode Rumors episode number seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's all I have for fact checking. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if we're gonna go into the this audio

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<v Speaker 1>clip first. Let's get the audio clip first, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to James is a trip to Australia because

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<v Speaker 1>it's the first time we've been together, um since James

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<v Speaker 1>got back three weeks. In three weeks, we did that

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<v Speaker 1>show two weeks ago with you on the phone. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the first time all three have been together.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get into this this phone call and Reggie,

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<v Speaker 1>let's set it up first before we run this clip.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So you know Snoop Dogg being um lately

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<v Speaker 1>on this campaign. We're in the death row chains and

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<v Speaker 1>and because the no Limit stuff didn't work out for him,

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<v Speaker 1>because he was wearing the no Limit chain but that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't work out and people didn't react to it, and

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<v Speaker 1>so now he's trying to get the music licensed and

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<v Speaker 1>all of that. So he's trying to do a kiss

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<v Speaker 1>Snoop chilks asked from jail and doing songs and all

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<v Speaker 1>of that. Uh, but you know, Snoop, you remember when

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<v Speaker 1>you're supposed to shot three thousand dollars through the cash app.

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<v Speaker 1>You never did that, homie. But anyway, um so anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>he uh, he's been on this big campaign and then

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<v Speaker 1>he also in this campaign and said he is the

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<v Speaker 1>reason that U Suge Knight went to the Prison of

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<v Speaker 1>Good Tupac a prison. It was his idea for that.

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<v Speaker 1>He's trying to take credit for it. So well, y'all

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<v Speaker 1>does he deserve partial credit? Speak So y'all don't never

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<v Speaker 1>want to listen to Reggie right because I've been telling

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<v Speaker 1>you how they went how they went down, and so

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<v Speaker 1>here's something that shigs on words that y'all can listen to,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll talk about it after that. The prison,

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<v Speaker 1>all the people he helped in helogy talk with from

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<v Speaker 1>business and parts and make him down like uh like uh,

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<v Speaker 1>interschool people. He was over the state a certain artist.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't you want to talk about the letter with

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<v Speaker 1>that Madonna was sold piss because he was joking when

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<v Speaker 1>Donna never came to see and she never putting that

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<v Speaker 1>one dollar on his books when he when he reached

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<v Speaker 1>out for me to come to see him. He didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have money for not doing that alone, Commissary, he's not hidings,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. He didn't have ship and

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<v Speaker 1>all recorded my loving Madonna no thing getting put on

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<v Speaker 1>the jaff and guide and putting note on the brook

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<v Speaker 1>And so he was saying, man, I'm not gonna wrap

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<v Speaker 1>no woman of about the did I said, wouldn't give me?

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<v Speaker 1>Wanted to? Did this made sure you eat? He said,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right now. The only person which I think we

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<v Speaker 1>really should interview her and put on it because most

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<v Speaker 1>people don't know him is a woman named Pisa. She

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<v Speaker 1>was prosy wife. She married Park when he was in prison.

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<v Speaker 1>She sa, Morny called my office. They'll give his wife

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<v Speaker 1>right from New York. Yeah, she called office and she

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<v Speaker 1>come off and everybody can laughing and then take the message.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you give it to me, so possible you're

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<v Speaker 1>laughing about let said, is a program keep saying you

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<v Speaker 1>toobox life. And you know they got married and he

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<v Speaker 1>would need to help, and they said, you know, I'm crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, we'll look. Let me talk to him

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<v Speaker 1>because it might be a chance you tause and it's truth, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So I get on the phone with and she said said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad you took my call to everybody become crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I know there was Tony, don't talk to you,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, but we're really mad, or I show you.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Now to the Kate, I can said, he is,

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<v Speaker 1>I can, said you, Dad, I said, don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>do all that. Tell me what you need? I thought

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<v Speaker 1>to my need is some bread, or I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>give it to it. She said, look two o'clock and

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<v Speaker 1>the only person can you help him, it's you. Please

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<v Speaker 1>come seeing for you can get him out of prison.

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<v Speaker 1>So I said, look, I ain't a person alone as

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<v Speaker 1>we speak, I'll call my lawyer and keep permission for

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<v Speaker 1>us to go out to New York. And then those

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<v Speaker 1>things I want to see park I was. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>throw it up and I was illegal, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. That's how I got in with the lorder,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. The first time we went there,

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<v Speaker 1>we had to we flew the private plans from l

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<v Speaker 1>A to New York, and we had to supply a

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<v Speaker 1>smaller plane from New York to the are you had

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the busy by a prison. So we

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<v Speaker 1>had to take a jet because the big plane can

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<v Speaker 1>you know, wouldn't be too big. Then we had to

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<v Speaker 1>take a hour and something lim a V from the

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<v Speaker 1>from the jet, I remember the first time I got there.

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<v Speaker 1>They go seeing how I came out, passes in the head.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you can tell you in stressing. So he

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<v Speaker 1>sat down and talking to these people halfies. I look,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the dead. I'm not gonna wrap no

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<v Speaker 1>more while people looking so like slumming my hands on

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<v Speaker 1>the things for hey, look that's how we came up with.

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<v Speaker 1>Then our lives on me, I said, all lives on you,

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<v Speaker 1>and then hope is in you and you's random box.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna wrap no more. Not to get that

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<v Speaker 1>boys your head, I said, don't don't do no one

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the vibe fan This person be dispers

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<v Speaker 1>said that for all that bullshit. He said, well, just

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<v Speaker 1>I'll see you all my post. I said, I want

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<v Speaker 1>the post. He said, my mother's you know she don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a place to say. I said the person I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do. Let's work hard on getting you out, secting

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<v Speaker 1>them to do well, I leave your out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call can count up with your mother, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna buy a house so you don't get a part.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna buy your house, like buyre ocast or ship.

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<v Speaker 1>I said. Then we're gonna work, don't getting you out.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked at the lawyer. I said, hey, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do everything I can. I hope everything I can act.

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<v Speaker 1>The lawyer couldn't get him out. He said, yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>said anything. You know, he said anything to you. I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a slam dunk or because every time we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about cases, I talked about the basketball times. I said

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<v Speaker 1>the slam luck it's no, I said, the lad you

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<v Speaker 1>know he says the self shot. I said, we'll check

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<v Speaker 1>this up. When you shoot that tumb side from that range,

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<v Speaker 1>how many times you make him? He saidn't usually I've

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<v Speaker 1>never missed that name. So most of the time over here.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked the podcast, said, well, they mean I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get yourn. We went back to work, and all that

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<v Speaker 1>ship done. Time I got out, I meantime I left there,

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<v Speaker 1>flew back to l A. I boughttom mother bought his

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<v Speaker 1>mother house and huh last pay cash forard, got ship

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<v Speaker 1>off and from his books, gotting straight, kept talking the

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<v Speaker 1>keyshas she was going to visiting, went back out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and David back out there. All his people with mothers

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<v Speaker 1>tunnels come to the visitings of my friends and you

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<v Speaker 1>know they comes to being recorded. You gotta be subing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the time because they don't win one game out

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<v Speaker 1>And he came back out. He was smiling, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he walke my George Jefferson. I was trying me like

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<v Speaker 1>he went where to do that? That of walk? He

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<v Speaker 1>was just you know, swinging the shoulders and ship. So

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<v Speaker 1>we'd asked, does that we said, I said, hey, I

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<v Speaker 1>know you had choosing the West coast. I ain't know

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<v Speaker 1>you had to choosing the East coast if I told me,

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<v Speaker 1>And you're talking to big shots. Man, we know me

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<v Speaker 1>for my old boys. He said, Man, they gave you weed.

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<v Speaker 1>They gave me foo, they gave me cosmetics, and he

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<v Speaker 1>gave me the place. Said I got so much weed,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fired right now. We just thought, right, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, well, Ship, I'm from the team. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>can't I'll be setting you in the free world. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>stopped to get you working on tracks right now. And

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<v Speaker 1>then we started talking. I said, what kind of cards

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<v Speaker 1>you like? He's like this, like this Eddie card. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>like I already had bought for it. And then when

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when I set the product, fans pick him up.

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<v Speaker 1>I sent in my brief base to pull the mother

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<v Speaker 1>for the money. And so when you let me running

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<v Speaker 1>committed this three year. The first one did was my

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<v Speaker 1>business of writer. The hooks are are he on it?

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<v Speaker 1>So you know he's smoking, drinking for bab hen until

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing the booth. And he started rapping, and there

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<v Speaker 1>was an incredible ship to When he was wrapping, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what's your pay? I was like, ships, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>but that ship was bombed and I said it's all

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<v Speaker 1>right because my possitive tell me that football made me

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<v Speaker 1>work hard. I need to start rapping again. I tell

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<v Speaker 1>the engineer, whatever you do, don't race the saving and

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<v Speaker 1>go to another verse, you know, another tape. Don't raise

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<v Speaker 1>Anne of the verses and said, yeah, what's you think?

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<v Speaker 1>I said, a little bets all right, but you know

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<v Speaker 1>that you were losing my mind how he was extrapping

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<v Speaker 1>and flowing. This is gonna take your shirt off. You're drinking,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, her headphones in his Then go hey, fucus plunt,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody bring me a newport. They're bringing a newport. He's

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<v Speaker 1>all right, he told me he's called the reporting and

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<v Speaker 1>he at the new port, took two long drags and

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<v Speaker 1>that motherfucker started doing. He was better than the first

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<v Speaker 1>three bot tasts he did. I said, this, monther Pup's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>So we finished that song and a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>more ships. So as we at this time to leave,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't smoke, and he drinking the systems. He being

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<v Speaker 1>jails in prison, so you know, and you saw that

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<v Speaker 1>he was talking to me how much funny I had,

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<v Speaker 1>how much he appreciated, and he just passed out in

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<v Speaker 1>my car him for his failed and I started laughing.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you came and heard the spot and put

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<v Speaker 1>you down something. He woke up to their I ain't

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<v Speaker 1>got too high, talk too much, so I put him

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<v Speaker 1>in them on. I got him biggest sweet fun and

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<v Speaker 1>I had seven does the dads pitches in California. I

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<v Speaker 1>tell him that don't try selling his money, don't targe

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<v Speaker 1>stilling the jury, getting baths and shiz and ever he want.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta do everything for him. All yea up and

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<v Speaker 1>get when you get there, we'll take care of them

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<v Speaker 1>all night. In the morning, im up and called me

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<v Speaker 1>the morning, said he will. He said, they already got

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<v Speaker 1>me a rolled up, that's already got me a checked me.

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<v Speaker 1>He said me. He gave me the most beautiful nick

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<v Speaker 1>bitches of being a bill with me, and I never

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<v Speaker 1>felt so good in my life. When we started laughing,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, we're sick. Don't don't don't try, don't bring

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<v Speaker 1>yourself about too much. You know, we're back in the studio.

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<v Speaker 1>He's I can't wait. And that's how we started. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>But Keitha, if they want for her, it never would happen,

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<v Speaker 1>and nobody never gave her a dude, you know. So

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<v Speaker 1>that was an eight minute clip of Sugar Night talking

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<v Speaker 1>to him. Well, guess we're gonna keep that person's identity

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<v Speaker 1>on the on the phone talking from the California Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Corrections to a person whose identity we're not revealing.

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<v Speaker 1>And Reggie brought this clip and it's the first time

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hearing it. James, I'm assuming it's the first time

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<v Speaker 1>you're hearing it too, and read, um, what's so significant

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<v Speaker 1>about this conversa? Was just trying to show how the

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<v Speaker 1>story has always been out there and anybody that follows

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<v Speaker 1>me on Bomb First or any interviews that I've done

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<v Speaker 1>on Black how I always said it wasn't Snoop, it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't anyone it was Park's wife at the time, Keisha,

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<v Speaker 1>who eventually got on no man from who was the

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<v Speaker 1>one that reached out the show and to have ship

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<v Speaker 1>to go up there. And his intentions originally wasn't to

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<v Speaker 1>go up there to to try to get him out

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<v Speaker 1>of prison. He was just going out to look out

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<v Speaker 1>as a friend and talk to the man who needed

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<v Speaker 1>some money because his record company, Interscope at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>was cut it cut it off, cut right in the

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<v Speaker 1>checks for him, even though he had the number one

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<v Speaker 1>album to come in the country out at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>They was like, hey, your legal bills and all the

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<v Speaker 1>fees and lawsuits and stuff, we can't cut you no

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<v Speaker 1>more money. Shouldn't I stepped up to the plate. Why

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<v Speaker 1>that's Snow trying to say that it was it was him,

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<v Speaker 1>That's my point. That's my point. Niggas can say stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that because they think she has gone now and

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<v Speaker 1>he can't reach out and he don't have spokespersons out

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<v Speaker 1>here to tell it, and people cloud chasing off a

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<v Speaker 1>Park's name to try to make themselves look cook good.

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<v Speaker 1>Some motherfucking liar. The only thing that I may give

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<v Speaker 1>Snow credit for possibility is Shi might have went to

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<v Speaker 1>him because she'll do does talk like this, and said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about to go see about Pop getting out or

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<v Speaker 1>trying to go visit Pop. What you think about me

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<v Speaker 1>maybe trying to get him other jail? And I can

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<v Speaker 1>see Snoop thing. Yeah, yeah, make it happened off. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can make it happen, make it happen. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the only possibility I'll give it. Well, I know it

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot of jealousy when Tupac came home. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it came to death Row. And I know a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of those guys man, because if you was number one,

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<v Speaker 1>you number two or number three now because Tupac was

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<v Speaker 1>the ship. You know what I'm saying, Just like Shoot

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<v Speaker 1>said that dude go in the studio and was doing

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<v Speaker 1>it off his head, and and and they and they

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<v Speaker 1>and they tell him and in all the interviews that

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<v Speaker 1>I ever hear them saying, they always said they love

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<v Speaker 1>his work, that th that they learned his worth that

0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:19.720
<v Speaker 1>good from him. Now Snoop saying this recently that he

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<v Speaker 1>has something to do with it or is this a

0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:24.360
<v Speaker 1>story that he's been saying for years. He's been well,

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't heard it before, but lately, he's been on

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<v Speaker 1>the gas. He's been doing songs called and this the

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<v Speaker 1>new song he just wrapped about that that he just

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<v Speaker 1>released in the last week, let Bygones Be Bygones. He

0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:38.840
<v Speaker 1>talks about it in that song. So he's on the gas.

0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Snoop Dogg is trying to be cool with you now.

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<v Speaker 1>But what it's a reason? All right, I'm gonna tell

0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:50.360
<v Speaker 1>him now, they got a movie that they don't shot already.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's that Snoop and people affiliated with him. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of money, a lot of money on this

0:19:57.440 --> 0:20:01.000
<v Speaker 1>movie already, but he and it's not a licensing the

0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:03.600
<v Speaker 1>music to him, and they're not going to license the

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<v Speaker 1>music until they get blessed in from shut And so

0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:09.480
<v Speaker 1>I think that's what his get down there is. And

0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't they just go to shoog and here he

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<v Speaker 1>goes five million dollars dollars that much. You gotta you

0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:21.639
<v Speaker 1>gotta warm me up, you gotta you gotta grease me

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<v Speaker 1>up before you come to me and talk to me

0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:25.960
<v Speaker 1>like that. I'm not saying that's not gonna eventually happen,

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<v Speaker 1>but you come to me right now and say that

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<v Speaker 1>after you've been dissing me and not fucking I'm working

0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:34.520
<v Speaker 1>on my own ship right now. I'm doing my own movie.

0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:36.720
<v Speaker 1>I got my own people. But the Snoop is is

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<v Speaker 1>taking credit for bringing pop to death row, isn't that

0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:43.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna piss Sugar off and not want to help him

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<v Speaker 1>with the music that he needs for his movie. He

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<v Speaker 1>just did this in the last week. He just probably

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<v Speaker 1>ain't heard about it yet and so he probably haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been able to reach out and talk about it. And

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<v Speaker 1>he don't want to piss Snoop off either, because they

0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:58.359
<v Speaker 1>got some things working, they got some things working. They're

0:20:58.359 --> 0:21:01.720
<v Speaker 1>cool right now. They got some things work, because it

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<v Speaker 1>does matter. So your point is to say, Okay, snoopbody

0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:08.760
<v Speaker 1>here Ryan on shugk Dick now didn't want to be

0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:11.160
<v Speaker 1>cool and saying he did this and did that. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me show y'all that Snoop ain't got a mother fucking

0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:17.240
<v Speaker 1>thing to do with want, so stop it. So that's

0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:22.240
<v Speaker 1>your point Planet, Okay, But just because Snoop is not

0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:25.480
<v Speaker 1>mentioned by Sugar the conversation does not mean Snoop didn't

0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:27.560
<v Speaker 1>have a role in it. I'm not disagreeing with you

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<v Speaker 1>reg what I'm just saying. The phone call don't prove nothing,

0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:38.760
<v Speaker 1>go ahead any credit. The only thing improves is that Snoops,

0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean Tupac's wife is the one that should have

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<v Speaker 1>got credit for hooking him up. Because if it like

0:21:44.720 --> 0:21:47.359
<v Speaker 1>he should have said it, then if it wasn't for

0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:51.520
<v Speaker 1>his wife, this would have never happened. So that's the

0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:54.840
<v Speaker 1>one who get credit. There's no Snoop, There's no no

0:21:55.040 --> 0:21:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Nate Dog, no Reggie Rights. Nobody can take credit for

0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:03.960
<v Speaker 1>that because his wife hooked it up. According to Sugar, Well,

0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Sugar is the main one that that that don't even

0:22:06.480 --> 0:22:10.360
<v Speaker 1>know if if Tupac I mean Snoop would have saying

0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:13.000
<v Speaker 1>you need to go get him out of jail, sure

0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:16.320
<v Speaker 1>would have said that we need to get Tupac on line,

0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:17.760
<v Speaker 1>we need to get him out of jail, we need

0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:20.639
<v Speaker 1>to get him down here. Death Bro never had a

0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:23.520
<v Speaker 1>conversation like that. Show. Tupac has nothing, I mean, Snoop

0:22:23.600 --> 0:22:26.480
<v Speaker 1>has nothing like that. You know, I'm just saying sound.

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<v Speaker 1>All I'm saying is you're you're assuming that maybe this

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<v Speaker 1>is just over your head. I got over my head.

0:22:34.280 --> 0:22:36.840
<v Speaker 1>All are assuming everything that was just said in that

0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:42.840
<v Speaker 1>conversation is the truth. But why you have to lie

0:22:42.840 --> 0:22:44.920
<v Speaker 1>about that? I don't know why should lie about anything

0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:47.399
<v Speaker 1>he liked about, you know, I don't know. I'm just

0:22:47.440 --> 0:22:50.439
<v Speaker 1>saying that you're assuming it as a truth. I was

0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:52.680
<v Speaker 1>there and so I know most of the stuff I

0:22:52.680 --> 0:22:57.359
<v Speaker 1>would don't like Snoop. So anything against Snoopop, I just

0:22:57.400 --> 0:22:59.720
<v Speaker 1>like the truth. I just know the real I just

0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:06.000
<v Speaker 1>don't bullshit many of the episodes another one. So if Sugar,

0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:10.639
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, this this clears everything. So if Sugar

0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:15.680
<v Speaker 1>and Snoop Dogg is doing ship right now, what difference

0:23:15.720 --> 0:23:19.240
<v Speaker 1>does this make? Who run two? Got you? If I

0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:23.200
<v Speaker 1>gotta jail? They passed that they're working together, and now

0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:26.280
<v Speaker 1>Snoop is trying to butter his way in to get

0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:29.760
<v Speaker 1>Ship to say, okay, I need your help on this music,

0:23:30.080 --> 0:23:32.480
<v Speaker 1>to you to release this so we can go on

0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:35.720
<v Speaker 1>and put this movie out. So if they're doing this,

0:23:36.119 --> 0:23:39.600
<v Speaker 1>then I mean that's had. It has no relevance to

0:23:39.640 --> 0:23:42.440
<v Speaker 1>what the Cats is doing. Now. They're working with each other,

0:23:42.920 --> 0:23:46.199
<v Speaker 1>with Reggie is saying Snoop need to stop saying some

0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:49.879
<v Speaker 1>false bullshit out there. That's the bottom line. You're already

0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:52.639
<v Speaker 1>sucking with Sugar, y'all doing y'all things, and there's no

0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:55.439
<v Speaker 1>need for you to try to take credit for something

0:23:55.480 --> 0:24:00.159
<v Speaker 1>that you haven't done. But today this recording is he

0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:04.880
<v Speaker 1>relevant because who gives a fuck Tupac is gone, so

0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:08.120
<v Speaker 1>it don't matter who got him by to jail. Whoever

0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:09.840
<v Speaker 1>got him by the jail and want to take credit

0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:11.520
<v Speaker 1>for it, and they can take credit for his death.

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:14.640
<v Speaker 1>You didn't say the man like when he was out here,

0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:17.359
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying on and motherfucker's out of

0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:20.040
<v Speaker 1>here on some bullshit. So man, I wouldn't take credit

0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:24.200
<v Speaker 1>for getting him out. I wouldn't want that. All I'm

0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:28.920
<v Speaker 1>saying is I agree what you read. But what I'm

0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:31.919
<v Speaker 1>saying is this phone call doesn't prove that it's just

0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:35.720
<v Speaker 1>one man telling his version of what happened. That the

0:24:35.920 --> 0:24:38.520
<v Speaker 1>nf CEO telling what's happening. The man that went and

0:24:38.680 --> 0:24:40.640
<v Speaker 1>got him, the one to put the million point five

0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:42.960
<v Speaker 1>up for him to get out. But Snoop don't have

0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:45.400
<v Speaker 1>a track record of being a liar, Like how many

0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:49.480
<v Speaker 1>that's not get down of doing interviews and just blatantly

0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:52.320
<v Speaker 1>sit where you saying nas and then was about the

0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:55.119
<v Speaker 1>whoop on us and and he was snapped just like

0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Snoop speaks to whoever the motherfucking audience is and whoever

0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:01.960
<v Speaker 1>he's trying to impres said that time is what he says.

0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:04.760
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you about five different lines that snooped

0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:06.200
<v Speaker 1>and told all right, I want to talk a little

0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:09.320
<v Speaker 1>bit about this call outside of the Snoop issue. I

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:12.800
<v Speaker 1>found it interesting that that Sugar actually said Poc didn't

0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:17.200
<v Speaker 1>have nothing, and he was already a superstar at this time.

0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:20.679
<v Speaker 1>Why was it that Park had no support? His mama

0:25:20.720 --> 0:25:31.119
<v Speaker 1>was homeless doll ninety nine. PC already had a movie career,

0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:33.920
<v Speaker 1>He already had like two or three albums out. How

0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:38.879
<v Speaker 1>come he had nothing? How much money was getting he

0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:41.000
<v Speaker 1>always said, because of the legal bills and all of that.

0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:43.240
<v Speaker 1>I'll say that, and people that was working for him,

0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:46.120
<v Speaker 1>So from me, I'll say it again. His mama was homeless.

0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:48.400
<v Speaker 1>That's all I want to say. What's the guy what's

0:25:48.440 --> 0:25:52.720
<v Speaker 1>the guy name that played in UH and IQ movie Friday?

0:25:53.000 --> 0:26:00.480
<v Speaker 1>The pops Um I know you're talking about. He said,

0:26:00.520 --> 0:26:04.520
<v Speaker 1>the first, the first uh, the first Friday. He got

0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 1>paid first five thousand dollars, five thousand dollars. You would

0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:11.240
<v Speaker 1>think he was rich after that. But but this is

0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:13.680
<v Speaker 1>all something because we were on the outside looking in

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 1>we don't know how much this guy was getting paid.

0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:20.119
<v Speaker 1>When two when snooping him was when they first came

0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 1>and dropped they they they their music. Snoop wouldn't getting paid, Snoop.

0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:28.639
<v Speaker 1>Shoot bought the car for his birthday. He gave it

0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:31.600
<v Speaker 1>to his mama. He didn't have money like that. Those

0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:34.399
<v Speaker 1>guys didn't have no money until what after? What? What?

0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:39.080
<v Speaker 1>What's he needs? Well? Snoop? When then when had his

0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:43.239
<v Speaker 1>own money? Snoop part of um he had already ran

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:44.800
<v Speaker 1>up a bill of four and a half to five

0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:52.520
<v Speaker 1>million dollars before dropping one album for his legal defense. Okay,

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I was just wondering what was poks financial status. He

0:26:57.600 --> 0:26:59.840
<v Speaker 1>had a lot of legal fees. Um, he had a

0:26:59.840 --> 0:27:04.240
<v Speaker 1>lot on legal situations. And I hate speaking negatively on

0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Park because he has a lot of fans and they

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:12.639
<v Speaker 1>get mad when you talk negative. I think broke it

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 1>did show you if you can't bail out of jail,

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:19.680
<v Speaker 1>if you can't bail out of jail, you just high

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 1>figure like show great point million a half dollar and

0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:29.080
<v Speaker 1>you think you you think this is a millionaire, and

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:31.080
<v Speaker 1>then you can't bail out of jail on a ten

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 1>million dollar. Now the shows your your your true stats.

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:37.920
<v Speaker 1>You could argue that Park even at that time, was

0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:40.639
<v Speaker 1>the number one rapper on the plane. Was it just

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:43.439
<v Speaker 1>he had a number one album out in the country.

0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:48.919
<v Speaker 1>Couldn't be Bruce breen Stree greatest straightest out, greatest Hits album.

0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:54.400
<v Speaker 1>He was number one on the chart timing and then

0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:58.240
<v Speaker 1>they broke. At what point did they start making really

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 1>really start making money? You know what I'm saying, got bad.

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:04.679
<v Speaker 1>Charlie Wilson, You tell you those stories. Why why did

0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:07.960
<v Speaker 1>you say that Jasmine guy didn't put anything on pox books?

0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Because people always saying how you had all the high

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:13.760
<v Speaker 1>profile friends that were doing that was successful. And Pap

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:16.320
<v Speaker 1>was saying, how he's gonna live off females and he's

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 1>going to delive up and ship pointed to him was

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 1>what females came through for you? Who came through who

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 1>helped out? No Madonna, he was part of going to jail.

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:30.439
<v Speaker 1>You were saying that, uh a warshow or somewhere with them.

0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 1>We got pictures out there where they were writing each

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:35.360
<v Speaker 1>other love letters in prison. I think that love letter

0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 1>just wrote so for thirty or forty dollars recently online

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:41.840
<v Speaker 1>that you know that that they wrote back and forth

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:44.600
<v Speaker 1>to each other. But did she step up to the plate,

0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:46.880
<v Speaker 1>did she come and pay for it? Did she put

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:50.320
<v Speaker 1>the me happen just part of the game. Well, at

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:53.640
<v Speaker 1>that time, Jasmine guy was pretty close to Park Jasmine

0:28:53.720 --> 0:29:00.479
<v Speaker 1>Jada Um, Sally Richards, Janet, Janet, Well Janet and Janet

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 1>After fully Justice, I got to hear the story from

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 1>where he was. They're gonna hook up and they're gonna

0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:08.440
<v Speaker 1>kick it, she said the day. Then the next day

0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 1>he tried to call that phone number number was changed,

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:15.960
<v Speaker 1>that Janet Jackson. But you know he he always said,

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Michael didn't want it. All right, where's Keysha that today?

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 1>The wife that got Noman? That's what chill point was

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:25.560
<v Speaker 1>in talking about. They said that these are the type

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:27.320
<v Speaker 1>of person we need to be talking to an interview

0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:31.640
<v Speaker 1>on because this is you're out there listening. You know,

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:35.560
<v Speaker 1>here's just a successful attorney somewhere now. But yeah, they

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 1>got a Yeah. They said she was a smart young

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 1>lady and so she must have been from the New

0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 1>York area because at that time that's what talk was

0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 1>based at. I know nothing about it, Like I said,

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 1>I was around it for eleven months and she never

0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:48.960
<v Speaker 1>came around. Um, all right, keeps we gotta we gotta

0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 1>find you, We gotta track you down because you're a

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 1>big part of this history. Um. If if what she

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 1>said in this phone call that we just played at

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 1>the beginning of the episode is true, you are the

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 1>reason the call. You are the reason part coming to

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 1>death Row records then and you get say, we're getting

0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 1>built out. They thought it was funny when she was calling. Well,

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they thought it was funny. I think

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 1>they didn't think it was her. You get a lot

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 1>of treats that part, that's the that's the part are

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 1>that you know somebody's calling that Park's trying to reach

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:25.440
<v Speaker 1>out because she had been trying to get there Frow

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 1>before in ninete and and and Park was like, now

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 1>now I'm cool where I'm at? How cool over there

0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 1>in the scope and so all of that probably played

0:30:36.800 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 1>a part. So what happened to uh Ifannyshakor's house in

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta that should bought for for her? I think they

0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:46.240
<v Speaker 1>still living, They still have it. They still have that house. Yeah,

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:50.040
<v Speaker 1>and that's the house. It's not Atlanta, it's the city

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 1>right outside of Atlanta. Yeah, we'll figure look up the

0:30:56.280 --> 0:31:03.560
<v Speaker 1>city next to Atlanta. The letter D the cat I

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:06.360
<v Speaker 1>don't want to mess with Atlanta in the house and

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Decatur back and the nineties was probably like less than

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 1>like a four bedroom, five bedroom house, a little bit

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 1>of nothing for a death row at the time. That

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:19.479
<v Speaker 1>was the flight that we cost. The fly from New

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 1>York out there on the private plane traveling to go

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 1>see Park probably cost more than buying that house. He

0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 1>was standing in the Peninsula. He had one of my

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 1>security guards, big psych and Park was in the US

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 1>in the suite. You know, they have bungalows over there.

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I think the hotel bill a day then was three

0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 1>to five thousand dollars a day. He stayed in there

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:47.840
<v Speaker 1>for three months. Now. I had a legal question because

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 1>when Park was incarcerated, he obviously didn't know he can

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:55.320
<v Speaker 1>get out, and I'm I'm thinking that Sugar's attorney figured

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 1>out a loophole to bail him out on appeal that

0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:02.479
<v Speaker 1>most people can't bail loud on appeal. Yeah, that's um. Well,

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 1>if you have the money, you can. Um you have

0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:08.479
<v Speaker 1>to be willing to put up whatever the amount. Ye,

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty sometimes automatic, especially on civil and I know

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 1>that about the self civil judgments. But he, like you said,

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 1>he had to have a reason to be appealing the

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 1>case to get out. So this is Kenner made the

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:25.280
<v Speaker 1>deal happen, but they needed a New York attorney to

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:28.320
<v Speaker 1>you hear some people that want to shoot down death

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Row and said she never did it, Jimmy, I been

0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:33.040
<v Speaker 1>said on the fighting ones that they don't want to

0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:35.640
<v Speaker 1>put up the money they did. They cut the check,

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 1>but they builded the death row. So ship, I don't care.

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 1>I got a credit card in my pocket right now.

0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 1>I just want to buy some gas credit credit. Capital

0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 1>one is going to pay for it. They paid it

0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:49.360
<v Speaker 1>up front to these people, but I gotta pay that

0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:53.040
<v Speaker 1>ship back. If not, you know, they're gonna come after

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:55.680
<v Speaker 1>whatever I want to have or or suit me. So

0:32:57.040 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 1>you know that's the argument that some people have. I hear,

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know this for a fact that uh Madonna

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:07.760
<v Speaker 1>attorneys had started some paperwork um to get it the

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 1>process going. Um. But I was always told it was

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:15.840
<v Speaker 1>David Kenner that made it happen. Well, I guess that

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 1>was some real clever legal work to bail Pock out

0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 1>on appeal after he was convicted of with like a

0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 1>second re rapera and I feel like I don't know

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 1>how active some of these other documentaries were about his case,

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 1>but it looked like he should have never even been

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:39.640
<v Speaker 1>in prison. In the first PARSI that the chick gave

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 1>him a blow job on the dance floor in a nightclub.

0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:47.760
<v Speaker 1>He came back home, but what he did had messed up.

0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:50.720
<v Speaker 1>He kind of did what Kobe Bryant did. He kind

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 1>of did with uh well, Mike Tyson. Did he treat

0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 1>him like ship after big mistake. You don't treat a

0:33:57.720 --> 0:34:01.160
<v Speaker 1>woman like that after you know you're honestly believe that's

0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:04.200
<v Speaker 1>why the woman did that. For sure. They didn't have

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:07.720
<v Speaker 1>no man send them to get them. Because she felt

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:09.839
<v Speaker 1>she was in love with Park or not in love.

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:15.480
<v Speaker 1>She wanted to be with Pop Pop. There was corrupting them.

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Said in the song with the dog Eat style on

0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Doggi Style, they passed it to the homie. Once she

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 1>passed them to the homie. Is there a is there

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 1>a chance or a likelihood that the homie raped her

0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:30.440
<v Speaker 1>and that had nothing to do with Park. That's what

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:32.880
<v Speaker 1>she portrayed. That's how well, that's what she said in

0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:35.359
<v Speaker 1>her interview that she gave about a year ago. I

0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:37.759
<v Speaker 1>know you don't follow I didn't follow it, I know,

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:40.239
<v Speaker 1>but I don't want to watch that one. Okay, I

0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 1>can't look at the bed. All right. Um, interesting phone call,

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:47.480
<v Speaker 1>and I mean I can talk about this for a

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:49.360
<v Speaker 1>whole another thirty minutes, but I want to know about

0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 1>james trip to Australia and uh, you went on a

0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:57.239
<v Speaker 1>five city or three city tour? Well we started off

0:34:57.280 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 1>at five, but we we did three. Um. It was

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:04.400
<v Speaker 1>a beautiful place, man, it was it was all the

0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:08.240
<v Speaker 1>people was nice, had a good time. We have one

0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:14.120
<v Speaker 1>not a bad incident, but we have one lady talking

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:18.960
<v Speaker 1>crazy in the audience. You know. He told that story

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:22.879
<v Speaker 1>on the last show. Yeah, so it was a good

0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:27.240
<v Speaker 1>thing because none of the other people, I mean everybody

0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:30.200
<v Speaker 1>attacked her and I didn't have to say about that.

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 1>But other than that, man, the beaches, I mean it's

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:36.279
<v Speaker 1>so clean. It's is you know, tell us about the

0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 1>weather here. That was like wintertime when you was it

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:42.880
<v Speaker 1>was wintertime, but the weather was so bum man, it

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:45.600
<v Speaker 1>was just you just walk out and when we were staying,

0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 1>you walk right out the door, make it right, and

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 1>you're right there on the beach. And man, just to

0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:54.400
<v Speaker 1>see the beach and the sunrise come up in the

0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:58.360
<v Speaker 1>morning out there, man was beautiful. I said I would

0:35:58.360 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 1>move there. I would move. The people so nice, but

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:06.680
<v Speaker 1>those people are so strict on other people coming to

0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:11.080
<v Speaker 1>their country, to coming out there, as if you're gonna

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 1>change it. They like everything the way it is. You

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 1>don't see no crime. Man. It was one of the

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:21.560
<v Speaker 1>guys Melachar got a ticket for two hundred and sixties

0:36:21.600 --> 0:36:25.280
<v Speaker 1>six bucks for thumping a cigarette butt on the ground.

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:29.960
<v Speaker 1>This is where they're not playing. Our city is gonna

0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:32.400
<v Speaker 1>stay clean, and you're gonna pay for it if you

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:35.760
<v Speaker 1>dirty it out. I heard my son this came from Japan,

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 1>and he told me they don't even have public trash

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:39.920
<v Speaker 1>cans out there. He said. People were walking around with

0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:43.560
<v Speaker 1>like little trash bags. The throw of their trash. Well

0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:46.320
<v Speaker 1>they had they had this little just a little truck

0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 1>come dumped the trash. Thirty minutes later, here come another one,

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:54.799
<v Speaker 1>so they own it they. I mean, it's so beautiful, man,

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:59.439
<v Speaker 1>watching these women exercise early in the morning. Every guy

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:02.920
<v Speaker 1>you see out there, it got on the tight shirt.

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:06.600
<v Speaker 1>It makes you feel bad and no really, it makes

0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 1>you feel like you you you're just using your body

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:14.439
<v Speaker 1>in a bad way, because everybody is so fit, even

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:18.400
<v Speaker 1>the older people. You're not a lot of obesity at

0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:21.640
<v Speaker 1>all at all. And and their food is totally different

0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 1>from ours. And and the only thing I see them

0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:28.360
<v Speaker 1>doing it, The only way I see them killing themselves

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:32.040
<v Speaker 1>is the way they drink. That's it. But other than that,

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:34.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, but you got older women sitting there at

0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:38.040
<v Speaker 1>the bars while they're eating, taking shots. But they're probably

0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:40.279
<v Speaker 1>so healthy and other aspects of their life they could

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 1>afford alcohol. You know. I doubt if they even uh

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:50.279
<v Speaker 1>know what diabetes is down there. I doubt it, I

0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:55.320
<v Speaker 1>really do. You didn't you never seen the police um

0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:59.080
<v Speaker 1>sirens and the police that we've seen didn't have a gun.

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:03.480
<v Speaker 1>But when we went to the club, they had. They

0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:06.120
<v Speaker 1>had pistols on them. All of these guys that I

0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:08.480
<v Speaker 1>was hanging in and I met at the bars. We

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:10.640
<v Speaker 1>don't carry guys. We know. I never had a gun

0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:12.719
<v Speaker 1>to day in my life. I never had one of

0:38:12.760 --> 0:38:18.480
<v Speaker 1>my hands. It's like, what right now? Did you know

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying? That's what I'm telling them, But it, man,

0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I learned a lot just by being there. You know.

0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:29.680
<v Speaker 1>We take what we have here. I mean, we take

0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:33.719
<v Speaker 1>like for granted, just saying how those people live and

0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:36.880
<v Speaker 1>how those people get along with each other and they

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:40.440
<v Speaker 1>coincide with each other. Everything is so good, you know

0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Whether they go to the little casino

0:38:42.640 --> 0:38:46.799
<v Speaker 1>and gamble, you lose your money and I'm gonna go in,

0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 1>they come out, they're fucking in. Put it in the machine.

0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:52.719
<v Speaker 1>You ain't gonna see that out here. Well, they do

0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:56.120
<v Speaker 1>got a history of extreme racisms against the Aboriginal people.

0:38:56.239 --> 0:38:58.920
<v Speaker 1>We don't want to give them a pass of being

0:38:59.000 --> 0:39:02.360
<v Speaker 1>like some utopian society. No, I'm just saying from what

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:05.319
<v Speaker 1>from my perspective, what I've seen, they're good. Have you

0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:07.919
<v Speaker 1>seen any Aboriginals when you were there those guys when

0:39:07.920 --> 0:39:10.000
<v Speaker 1>we went down to where the some Morns and all

0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:12.360
<v Speaker 1>of them at and they call it the Lord Bottom

0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:15.800
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. Man, you should see how the people interact

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:19.480
<v Speaker 1>with each other. And they's like stay today's self. You

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:23.279
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. We had this just just one

0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:26.440
<v Speaker 1>lady was walking by. I don't know this dude. He

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:30.399
<v Speaker 1>looked at purple and he was exchanging his money because

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 1>he was leaving, and she, oh good, he's out of here.

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:36.839
<v Speaker 1>They're leaving. They knew they're changing their money and they

0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:41.880
<v Speaker 1>must get about it here. So this is everybody stays

0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:46.080
<v Speaker 1>to theirselves and do them and they know you you dirty.

0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:49.759
<v Speaker 1>You tell me when they called him the N word

0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:52.200
<v Speaker 1>out there, when one lady called him the N word,

0:39:52.440 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 1>but she said, everybody else said they had deal with her,

0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:58.440
<v Speaker 1>they had discipline her, and they took offense to it.

0:39:58.719 --> 0:40:02.520
<v Speaker 1>They took offence to it. And everybody in that audience

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 1>was like, what the she just say? And then I

0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:10.839
<v Speaker 1>walked out, I dropped, I set the mic down, and

0:40:10.840 --> 0:40:12.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm and I'm like, oh my god, what how do

0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:15.399
<v Speaker 1>I react to this? So when I turned my back,

0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:19.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm really trying to like, man, dude, dude, you know

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:22.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm supposed to be just cat coming from Constance. Do

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I just attacked this female? So when I turned my

0:40:25.640 --> 0:40:28.000
<v Speaker 1>back and I hear all the people, I said, let

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 1>me let this play out. But guess what. She laid

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:33.000
<v Speaker 1>down and had two kids with a black man. Now

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:37.840
<v Speaker 1>now she got four black kids by by African dude.

0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:44.279
<v Speaker 1>She tried to stay their case, tell her whole story.

0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:46.759
<v Speaker 1>I go outside and I'm smoking a cigarette because I

0:40:46.920 --> 0:40:50.160
<v Speaker 1>just ran around the whole building from her. She chased me.

0:40:52.000 --> 0:40:55.680
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, exactly. So the whole time I'm sitting out

0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:59.120
<v Speaker 1>here smoking a cigarette, here comes to these women. These

0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:01.160
<v Speaker 1>women was like, no, I'm evenna put her ass out

0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:04.480
<v Speaker 1>of here, and we don't treat our guests like that. Man,

0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Australia is lovely. So the woman is telling me and

0:41:08.360 --> 0:41:12.200
<v Speaker 1>and telling me, like where you know what? You want

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:14.040
<v Speaker 1>to go to my room? You just call me a nigger.

0:41:14.239 --> 0:41:16.839
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. She said, no, it ain't.

0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:20.200
<v Speaker 1>She said, told her son, my nigga, come here, Come here,

0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:27.600
<v Speaker 1>my nigga, and everybody looked. Everybody looked at her. Everybody

0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:31.279
<v Speaker 1>looked at her and was like she is tripping. But

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 1>she had a lot of drinks. She had a lot

0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:36.239
<v Speaker 1>to drink. And they toss him. I'm sitting there with

0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:38.520
<v Speaker 1>two cats and they want to take a picture and

0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:42.280
<v Speaker 1>they asked me to have a drink win him. I said, okay.

0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:46.960
<v Speaker 1>They started taking off their shoelesser, what's this this? Uh

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:50.600
<v Speaker 1>damn a bootlegs, a boot front or whatever whatever? It was?

0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:54.040
<v Speaker 1>My bad food forgetting the name of it. They pulled

0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:58.080
<v Speaker 1>the beer in their shoe and start drinking it. So

0:41:58.120 --> 0:42:00.319
<v Speaker 1>they think, I don't know, man, I've been walking too long.

0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:03.160
<v Speaker 1>And need shops. I'm not being to drink shop. I

0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:08.279
<v Speaker 1>ain't doing it. So but anybody lady soon wind up

0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:11.600
<v Speaker 1>telling her, come on, it's time to go. You're tripping.

0:42:12.360 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 1>So and it was his birthday and she brung in

0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:17.839
<v Speaker 1>for for his birthday to see the show and then

0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:20.600
<v Speaker 1>she got drunk in act before. But she trying to

0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:24.360
<v Speaker 1>get me in my room to go to my room.

0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:26.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't think she press. So, who's fault is it

0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:30.920
<v Speaker 1>for saying my nigga? Quote unquote you're just about to

0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:35.040
<v Speaker 1>say who's fault that? Rappers? Ok? Yeah, I don't say

0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:40.839
<v Speaker 1>no all of them know, just goes back to yeah,

0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 1>I call your niggas and my nigga all the time.

0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:48.319
<v Speaker 1>Eminem in proof of them, the people that was hanging

0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:51.719
<v Speaker 1>around him when they when when they allowed when they

0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:56.720
<v Speaker 1>allowed eminem eminem however, he says name when they allowed

0:42:56.880 --> 0:43:00.399
<v Speaker 1>him to use the words. So now for people say,

0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:03.240
<v Speaker 1>because I'm cool with black folks or the black guys,

0:43:04.360 --> 0:43:08.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm cool, so I can say that one she called

0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:15.560
<v Speaker 1>her son. She called her son on one rapper culture

0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:18.919
<v Speaker 1>hip hop has used that word very loosely. They never

0:43:19.000 --> 0:43:22.160
<v Speaker 1>lose it when trying to be cool. They used that word.

0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:25.320
<v Speaker 1>She was saying that we're in a term of endearment

0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:31.560
<v Speaker 1>because they started that allow him that, yeah, she had

0:43:31.239 --> 0:43:33.800
<v Speaker 1>her hands. She's called her son that you're a cop

0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:37.480
<v Speaker 1>and you she loved her son. Well it's a point

0:43:37.480 --> 0:43:41.080
<v Speaker 1>of respect. I don't care what it is because she's

0:43:41.080 --> 0:43:43.560
<v Speaker 1>been doing it and don't dispect no big old black

0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 1>niggah up here. I can say she had babies. She

0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:53.399
<v Speaker 1>ain't got not prejudiced. You don't do that. Didn't know

0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:56.520
<v Speaker 1>what she was doing. All right. So while he was

0:43:56.520 --> 0:43:59.920
<v Speaker 1>on this tour in Australia, you were, you were doing

0:43:59.920 --> 0:44:03.080
<v Speaker 1>the tour with Greg Hating, former l ap D officer,

0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:07.480
<v Speaker 1>big investigator. How was that? How did that go? It

0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:10.360
<v Speaker 1>went real good, man, It went real good. You know,

0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:12.640
<v Speaker 1>he did his show, He did his thing, and then

0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 1>I came in on people asking the questions and it

0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:19.080
<v Speaker 1>was basically part of my life. A lot of things

0:44:19.120 --> 0:44:23.720
<v Speaker 1>they've seen him blad. They asked questions about that, um

0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:26.120
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I tell everybody, it ain't too much

0:44:26.120 --> 0:44:29.320
<v Speaker 1>of Tupac that I dealt with. You know what I'm saying.

0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't part of they clicked. I wouldn't. My brother

0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:37.239
<v Speaker 1>did his name with with with Tupac. Now that that

0:44:37.360 --> 0:44:40.360
<v Speaker 1>wasn't my whole get down, And and all of the

0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:44.640
<v Speaker 1>questions that people asked was basically, you know me and

0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:48.520
<v Speaker 1>shug Uh, why didn't I like Tupac? Now, I never

0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:50.920
<v Speaker 1>had a problem with Tupac, but I just didn't believe

0:44:51.000 --> 0:44:54.719
<v Speaker 1>Tupac come in and just saying he from my hood,

0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 1>he from the mob. No, it don't work like that.

0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:00.759
<v Speaker 1>Tupac just came jump. I don't care how much money

0:45:00.840 --> 0:45:04.600
<v Speaker 1>you got. I lived and banging for this ship. I

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:07.160
<v Speaker 1>just heard tray von On on first Saide Park was

0:45:07.200 --> 0:45:10.120
<v Speaker 1>a damn mob part rule didn He said something along

0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:15.239
<v Speaker 1>those lines. And to james point is number one, you

0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:17.520
<v Speaker 1>don't think trade is in the position to put him on.

0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:23.520
<v Speaker 1>But number two he said in Jameson said Bunchy and

0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:27.719
<v Speaker 1>and and and neck Ball did so he had to

0:45:27.760 --> 0:45:31.360
<v Speaker 1>respect that. But he said because they were o gs

0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:34.960
<v Speaker 1>and people that that uh paved that way. But he

0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:39.640
<v Speaker 1>just said as his opinion and and with his status,

0:45:39.880 --> 0:45:41.800
<v Speaker 1>he would not allow with it. And I understand what

0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:44.360
<v Speaker 1>you a'm saying on that part. I understand both sides.

0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I understand. And that's what Jay said. He never got

0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:50.600
<v Speaker 1>in the car and did bust a great for them

0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:54.920
<v Speaker 1>him showed, you know, but the other four would be

0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:57.279
<v Speaker 1>I didn't find that a lot of ships going on

0:45:57.440 --> 0:46:00.320
<v Speaker 1>over here, you know, Like you said with that you

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:07.640
<v Speaker 1>would from Okay, how people have done things other than

0:46:08.000 --> 0:46:11.000
<v Speaker 1>jumped in the car. I agree that you don't have

0:46:11.120 --> 0:46:13.000
<v Speaker 1>to bust. You don't have to shoot people up to

0:46:13.120 --> 0:46:17.200
<v Speaker 1>earn your reputation in the hood. But grow up there

0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:23.759
<v Speaker 1>and be there when you were thirteen, fourteen, fifteen Park neighborhood,

0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:27.759
<v Speaker 1>living in the neighborhood, and that game banging, it's called

0:46:27.800 --> 0:46:31.040
<v Speaker 1>guilty by association. That's all that because well, you know

0:46:31.680 --> 0:46:34.960
<v Speaker 1>from the neighborhood, so everybody's gonna assume you from there anyway.

0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:39.440
<v Speaker 1>That's totally different from coming. And then this guy passed

0:46:39.840 --> 0:46:44.040
<v Speaker 1>and you see these cats with Tupac tattoos. No, y'all

0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:47.120
<v Speaker 1>got like funked up. That's wrong. Okay, what about all

0:46:47.160 --> 0:46:49.279
<v Speaker 1>of the all of your homies that you've been knowing

0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:52.400
<v Speaker 1>for thirty years that's passed and you ain't put a

0:46:52.480 --> 0:46:55.160
<v Speaker 1>mark on your body for now one, So you're telling

0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 1>me a different story. You can get to know Tupac

0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:01.759
<v Speaker 1>for ten months and and and say this is the

0:47:01.840 --> 0:47:04.920
<v Speaker 1>O G. No, you're not know O G from I

0:47:04.960 --> 0:47:12.080
<v Speaker 1>think money could buy you into almost any Hood's changed

0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:13.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the homies. You've got a lot of

0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:17.239
<v Speaker 1>talent in every hood. In every hood, somebody come out

0:47:17.280 --> 0:47:20.319
<v Speaker 1>of there and make it that person start looking out

0:47:20.400 --> 0:47:23.400
<v Speaker 1>for the homies. Once you start looking out for the homies,

0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:26.520
<v Speaker 1>it's hard. It's just stop looking out for the homies.

0:47:27.040 --> 0:47:31.279
<v Speaker 1>And every story ends up the same way because we've

0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:34.120
<v Speaker 1>got people like that. Little Wayne claims the mob. What's

0:47:34.120 --> 0:47:36.960
<v Speaker 1>your opinion about Little Wayne? And when when she started

0:47:37.040 --> 0:47:40.080
<v Speaker 1>that act ship without said we at never seen this

0:47:40.200 --> 0:47:44.600
<v Speaker 1>little nigga. Good credit to ship for a little Wayne. Uh,

0:47:45.239 --> 0:47:49.240
<v Speaker 1>we have to get out the term. Okay, I understanding

0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:53.120
<v Speaker 1>when he came to the wolf is in that bush

0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:55.399
<v Speaker 1>him and and and all them cats from from down

0:47:55.440 --> 0:47:58.440
<v Speaker 1>when it was at in that big bush smoking them

0:47:58.480 --> 0:48:05.200
<v Speaker 1>hug But you ain't from the mob. Okay, Well, po

0:48:05.560 --> 0:48:08.600
<v Speaker 1>do you you know Pooch? We can say, I can

0:48:08.640 --> 0:48:10.320
<v Speaker 1>say I could throw a whole bunch of names the

0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:13.800
<v Speaker 1>people that that didn't grow up with. This is what

0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:17.759
<v Speaker 1>these guys just doing that that don't have to you

0:48:17.880 --> 0:48:20.680
<v Speaker 1>see Nick Cannon. Nick Cannon ain't no blood not that

0:48:20.800 --> 0:48:23.320
<v Speaker 1>I know. Why do you have to live like that?

0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:27.080
<v Speaker 1>You don't even want that title? This is my thing

0:48:27.200 --> 0:48:32.240
<v Speaker 1>to them guys. The same thing with with Chris Brown.

0:48:32.560 --> 0:48:35.080
<v Speaker 1>You don't even want that title. Why would you want

0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:36.759
<v Speaker 1>to fit in and be a part of that. That's

0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:40.400
<v Speaker 1>not how you living. But on the other hand, employing

0:48:40.560 --> 0:48:44.400
<v Speaker 1>about five dudes that wouldn't normally have jobs that that

0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:49.040
<v Speaker 1>that that's eaten good off of them, Big Dave and

0:48:49.200 --> 0:48:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Duck and all of that were even good because of

0:48:51.800 --> 0:48:54.400
<v Speaker 1>their relationship in their association with and that's cool, and

0:48:54.480 --> 0:48:56.439
<v Speaker 1>that's cool, and there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing

0:48:56.480 --> 0:49:00.560
<v Speaker 1>wrong with that. I just say I would are different,

0:49:01.040 --> 0:49:03.440
<v Speaker 1>it would be done, and I wouldn't look out for

0:49:03.480 --> 0:49:06.560
<v Speaker 1>those guys. I would employ those guys with something that

0:49:06.640 --> 0:49:09.440
<v Speaker 1>they're good at and give them a business and be

0:49:09.600 --> 0:49:12.759
<v Speaker 1>a third owner, be a part owner to it. You

0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:16.759
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, Ip post to being subject to

0:49:16.920 --> 0:49:19.520
<v Speaker 1>all of this, or you ain't from the hood. Now

0:49:19.640 --> 0:49:21.320
<v Speaker 1>you got to prove that you're from the hood with

0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:24.600
<v Speaker 1>a cat that's mad and everybody give me you more

0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:26.920
<v Speaker 1>cloud than than you're getting. But you the killer. But

0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:29.160
<v Speaker 1>that's usually the ones that's on the outside that that

0:49:29.400 --> 0:49:31.520
<v Speaker 1>got a problem. But that's if you're supposed to have

0:49:31.600 --> 0:49:34.040
<v Speaker 1>a problem. That that's where the problem comes from. You

0:49:34.160 --> 0:49:37.200
<v Speaker 1>are my hood repping, and and just because you're taking

0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:39.759
<v Speaker 1>care of homies, you ain't putting it down like we do.

0:49:40.400 --> 0:49:43.600
<v Speaker 1>We let this every day. Man, five dudes from from

0:49:44.040 --> 0:49:47.640
<v Speaker 1>from their it could be thirty. Yeah you can be

0:49:47.760 --> 0:49:50.120
<v Speaker 1>put on, Yeah you can be put on. You could

0:49:50.160 --> 0:49:53.960
<v Speaker 1>be put on anyway. So I came by my way in. However,

0:49:54.840 --> 0:49:57.839
<v Speaker 1>get you basically that's what you're doing, buying your way

0:49:57.880 --> 0:50:02.719
<v Speaker 1>in pretty much because you ain't started from scratch, you

0:50:02.760 --> 0:50:05.680
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. So if if, if, if it's

0:50:05.800 --> 0:50:08.600
<v Speaker 1>gainst by nature not by choice, whether you fit in

0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:12.200
<v Speaker 1>at you don't fit in because this is two thousand

0:50:12.280 --> 0:50:18.279
<v Speaker 1>and nineteen. Don't come in here and and at two

0:50:18.360 --> 0:50:21.480
<v Speaker 1>thousand and seventeen to say you're a game banger. You're not.

0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:25.680
<v Speaker 1>You feel me, you're not. You got these women coming

0:50:25.760 --> 0:50:27.840
<v Speaker 1>up here talking about their game bankers. You know what

0:50:27.920 --> 0:50:30.719
<v Speaker 1>I did to game banging broads. I treated them just

0:50:30.880 --> 0:50:34.160
<v Speaker 1>like niggas, just like niggas. But if you want to

0:50:34.200 --> 0:50:36.800
<v Speaker 1>sit here and wear raging flagging in my face, you

0:50:36.920 --> 0:50:39.680
<v Speaker 1>got me fucked up. I kill you like I do

0:50:39.840 --> 0:50:41.960
<v Speaker 1>one of them dudes. I treat you like I treat

0:50:42.000 --> 0:50:45.080
<v Speaker 1>the nigger and that, and that's that's her fault, because

0:50:45.120 --> 0:50:48.279
<v Speaker 1>you're putting yourself in a situation that you don't belong in.

0:50:49.200 --> 0:50:52.480
<v Speaker 1>You don't belong in this world. Find them line. And

0:50:52.560 --> 0:50:55.439
<v Speaker 1>those guys just making money, man, never make your money

0:50:55.480 --> 0:50:57.680
<v Speaker 1>to do something right with it. Chris Brown, you're listening.

0:50:57.960 --> 0:51:00.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about all of them. All those guys just

0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:03.279
<v Speaker 1>want to be thug niggas and ain't thug niggas, and

0:51:03.400 --> 0:51:06.080
<v Speaker 1>and and and ain't ready to to stand up to

0:51:06.160 --> 0:51:09.040
<v Speaker 1>that goddamned first chest when the big homie come at

0:51:09.080 --> 0:51:12.279
<v Speaker 1>you and say I won't woot the woof when you

0:51:12.360 --> 0:51:15.040
<v Speaker 1>ain't ready to give it, they're gonna bust your ass. Now.

0:51:15.560 --> 0:51:17.920
<v Speaker 1>They didn't put you out. I should have the right

0:51:18.000 --> 0:51:19.839
<v Speaker 1>niggas around me taking care of me to say, hey,

0:51:20.160 --> 0:51:22.920
<v Speaker 1>I got a calm James down, dog you need to

0:51:22.960 --> 0:51:25.960
<v Speaker 1>deal with Somebody got to talk to him. Somebody got

0:51:26.080 --> 0:51:27.360
<v Speaker 1>to talk to him. You got one of them in

0:51:27.400 --> 0:51:31.239
<v Speaker 1>every hood, every hood, if if, if, if you stop

0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:34.680
<v Speaker 1>what you're doing for me. You shouldn't have put me

0:51:34.719 --> 0:51:36.840
<v Speaker 1>out there like that you shouldn't made me feel like, Okay,

0:51:37.280 --> 0:51:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm ship, I'm good. Now you're gonna tell me you're done,

0:51:41.640 --> 0:51:43.440
<v Speaker 1>you ain't. I can't look out for you no more.

0:51:43.920 --> 0:51:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Get your bit ass out of here. And that's how

0:51:46.800 --> 0:51:48.680
<v Speaker 1>it goes. And that's what they do because they're not

0:51:48.800 --> 0:51:51.040
<v Speaker 1>getting it and they're not shining like that no more.

0:51:51.680 --> 0:51:55.240
<v Speaker 1>So I tell all of these cats, if you ain't

0:51:55.320 --> 0:51:58.000
<v Speaker 1>trying to trying to put yourself in a A, I

0:51:58.000 --> 0:52:00.800
<v Speaker 1>ain't gonna even use Nipsey in a tuparc and a

0:52:01.360 --> 0:52:03.920
<v Speaker 1>and a bunch ofy and hand run and all of

0:52:04.000 --> 0:52:06.840
<v Speaker 1>these other cats situations. Man, you don't have to be

0:52:07.000 --> 0:52:09.759
<v Speaker 1>from a gang. You don't have to be from a

0:52:09.880 --> 0:52:15.000
<v Speaker 1>game to be a man. Year old James Versus year

0:52:15.000 --> 0:52:20.400
<v Speaker 1>old years old learned from history, pay attention to what

0:52:20.560 --> 0:52:23.959
<v Speaker 1>happens with other cats, such as yourself in the same

0:52:24.000 --> 0:52:28.000
<v Speaker 1>position you in that's making money. You don't got out

0:52:28.040 --> 0:52:31.400
<v Speaker 1>the hood, but then you come back with everything that

0:52:31.600 --> 0:52:35.320
<v Speaker 1>you would you made, and then now you gotta splurt

0:52:35.440 --> 0:52:38.360
<v Speaker 1>it Like mc hammer, he's taking care of all of

0:52:38.400 --> 0:52:40.719
<v Speaker 1>these people. And at the end of the day when

0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:42.600
<v Speaker 1>he was broke, how many of them are still there?

0:52:44.120 --> 0:52:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Ain't that many there, Ain't that many left. Ain't that

0:52:47.360 --> 0:52:51.359
<v Speaker 1>many there successes of motherfucker, you gotta get you're gonna

0:52:51.440 --> 0:52:53.879
<v Speaker 1>keep it. You gotta stay away, you gotta stay away.

0:52:53.920 --> 0:52:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Ain't nothing wrong with getting out the neighborhood man, and

0:52:56.520 --> 0:52:58.560
<v Speaker 1>nothing wrong with it. This is why I'm where I'm

0:52:58.600 --> 0:53:01.040
<v Speaker 1>at right now today, because I understand that now I

0:53:01.080 --> 0:53:04.920
<v Speaker 1>don't have to be violent to be somebody. But I

0:53:04.960 --> 0:53:08.640
<v Speaker 1>think I think it's also a business move for guys, artists, rappers,

0:53:08.680 --> 0:53:11.200
<v Speaker 1>singers to take on a gang identity because they're trying

0:53:11.200 --> 0:53:14.200
<v Speaker 1>to get street cred. They're trying to get They understand

0:53:14.280 --> 0:53:18.239
<v Speaker 1>that fans buy records from people like fifty who get

0:53:18.280 --> 0:53:21.480
<v Speaker 1>shot nine times, you can come back. And I think

0:53:21.520 --> 0:53:24.920
<v Speaker 1>it's a protection move all day. It's hard going into

0:53:25.640 --> 0:53:28.879
<v Speaker 1>you going to an other clubs, other towns with other

0:53:29.320 --> 0:53:30.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, because there's gangsters, and every town in New

0:53:31.040 --> 0:53:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Orleans got their niggas. You don't want to Detroit everywhere.

0:53:34.600 --> 0:53:37.880
<v Speaker 1>But if I'm bringing Ale Reptable like James with me

0:53:38.400 --> 0:53:41.239
<v Speaker 1>and and and the Neckbone and Bunty and all of them,

0:53:41.320 --> 0:53:43.839
<v Speaker 1>and I'm coming walking in there, don't niggas fot real

0:53:43.960 --> 0:53:46.400
<v Speaker 1>recognized real, and they spot each other and they know

0:53:46.480 --> 0:53:48.040
<v Speaker 1>how to talk to each other. You look at it,

0:53:48.280 --> 0:53:51.520
<v Speaker 1>it stays that I say that, it's kind of weird.

0:53:52.360 --> 0:53:54.520
<v Speaker 1>What what James or Bunty will say. They'd be like,

0:53:54.600 --> 0:53:57.440
<v Speaker 1>oh okay, those are real niggas, and I think they

0:53:57.520 --> 0:53:59.880
<v Speaker 1>get accepted a little more. And I think that's why

0:54:00.120 --> 0:54:02.759
<v Speaker 1>do it? Well, when you see real, recognized real, you

0:54:02.840 --> 0:54:06.040
<v Speaker 1>ain't so quick to approach that. You gotta. You gotta

0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:08.880
<v Speaker 1>come with a different way on getting this cat and

0:54:09.000 --> 0:54:11.480
<v Speaker 1>not just walking up to him and slapping it. Now

0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:13.960
<v Speaker 1>we got altercation because this nig are gonna pipe back.

0:54:14.120 --> 0:54:16.680
<v Speaker 1>We know that, so now we're gonna have to catch

0:54:16.800 --> 0:54:20.080
<v Speaker 1>him outside when he opened his mouth, just pill his

0:54:20.239 --> 0:54:23.239
<v Speaker 1>cat and do what you do. It's totally different. You gotta.

0:54:23.320 --> 0:54:25.520
<v Speaker 1>It is a certain way to deal with every cat

0:54:25.640 --> 0:54:28.520
<v Speaker 1>out here. Ain't no one hell of a nigga and

0:54:28.600 --> 0:54:31.120
<v Speaker 1>he running the whole planet. It just don't work like that.

0:54:31.800 --> 0:54:33.759
<v Speaker 1>You ain't the badest cat. You're gonna run into a

0:54:33.880 --> 0:54:37.239
<v Speaker 1>cat that got hands and and gonna get you. So

0:54:38.719 --> 0:54:41.800
<v Speaker 1>just amount of time. But those dudes don't have to

0:54:41.880 --> 0:54:44.839
<v Speaker 1>do that. Those dudes are making money. If you want

0:54:44.880 --> 0:54:47.279
<v Speaker 1>to put money, who said you can't put money back

0:54:47.320 --> 0:54:49.719
<v Speaker 1>in the neighborhood. Who said you gotta be a part

0:54:49.800 --> 0:54:52.520
<v Speaker 1>of the hood to clean up the hood. You don't

0:54:52.560 --> 0:54:57.080
<v Speaker 1>have to do that. So those excuses and then us

0:54:57.120 --> 0:54:59.480
<v Speaker 1>as black man, when we get out, look what we're doing.

0:54:59.760 --> 0:55:01.960
<v Speaker 1>We they're sucking up. We are They're going to these

0:55:02.080 --> 0:55:06.480
<v Speaker 1>these pretty as places getting charged for touching fucking females.

0:55:06.760 --> 0:55:10.839
<v Speaker 1>You dudes are are man. I'm keeping one hunting man.

0:55:10.880 --> 0:55:14.520
<v Speaker 1>I had motherfucking sending my motherfucking left and buying me

0:55:14.640 --> 0:55:17.160
<v Speaker 1>three drinks at the time. Wait a minute, hold up,

0:55:17.239 --> 0:55:23.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm I'm married, And it was it was, it

0:55:23.880 --> 0:55:26.759
<v Speaker 1>was damn saying. You know what I'm saying, You don't

0:55:27.320 --> 0:55:29.480
<v Speaker 1>just because who you are, you don't have to touch

0:55:29.520 --> 0:55:31.520
<v Speaker 1>a woman like that. You don't have to be a

0:55:31.600 --> 0:55:36.160
<v Speaker 1>disrespectable ass cat. But we we we take advantage of

0:55:36.239 --> 0:55:39.000
<v Speaker 1>it and we funk up. Now the money going down,

0:55:39.040 --> 0:55:41.440
<v Speaker 1>everything going down. You're back in the neighborhood. But you

0:55:41.760 --> 0:55:43.919
<v Speaker 1>you can't come back to the neighborhood because you ain't

0:55:43.920 --> 0:55:48.759
<v Speaker 1>got no money. You can't help nobody. You're done. So

0:55:48.880 --> 0:55:51.760
<v Speaker 1>these these man we gotta wake up. We we truly

0:55:51.800 --> 0:55:54.600
<v Speaker 1>gotta wake up. I seen some beautiful ship out there. Man,

0:55:55.920 --> 0:55:59.279
<v Speaker 1>the most peaceful is people I've ever seen in my life.

0:55:59.560 --> 0:56:01.680
<v Speaker 1>And it just said, man, I gotta step my game up.

0:56:01.880 --> 0:56:05.279
<v Speaker 1>Australia is beautiful. Well, I think you were getting the

0:56:05.400 --> 0:56:10.920
<v Speaker 1>celebrity treatment because your history. So I don't want everyone

0:56:11.000 --> 0:56:13.560
<v Speaker 1>who's listening to the average brother think, Hey, I'm gonna

0:56:13.560 --> 0:56:18.520
<v Speaker 1>go to Australia and get treated the way. Guarantee you

0:56:19.000 --> 0:56:21.279
<v Speaker 1>if you just go out there, you ain't gotta be

0:56:21.800 --> 0:56:24.000
<v Speaker 1>uh doing those shows and nothing. Go sit at the

0:56:24.080 --> 0:56:26.839
<v Speaker 1>bar and see how do people come at you, come

0:56:26.920 --> 0:56:32.120
<v Speaker 1>and talk to you and sit there. Where are you from? Matekay?

0:56:32.560 --> 0:56:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Let's you start messing around with their women and you

0:56:35.239 --> 0:56:38.240
<v Speaker 1>just some regular dude visiting from the United States of America.

0:56:38.960 --> 0:56:41.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, You've got a lot of people that come

0:56:41.719 --> 0:56:45.120
<v Speaker 1>from America and still down there, especially the military guys

0:56:45.960 --> 0:56:48.279
<v Speaker 1>come down there. They stay down there and they hook

0:56:48.360 --> 0:56:51.000
<v Speaker 1>up and and they meet a woman and they live

0:56:51.040 --> 0:56:53.759
<v Speaker 1>in their life out there. I'm just saying, man, it's

0:56:53.800 --> 0:56:57.600
<v Speaker 1>just the way we treat ourselves. We don't have to

0:56:57.680 --> 0:57:02.560
<v Speaker 1>be the way we are the United Stage, California, l A, whatever.

0:57:02.880 --> 0:57:04.440
<v Speaker 1>We don't have to be like that. I think not

0:57:04.560 --> 0:57:06.560
<v Speaker 1>having guns in a society like that is one of

0:57:06.600 --> 0:57:11.640
<v Speaker 1>the main things that makes it more appealing. Ball my

0:57:11.800 --> 0:57:15.280
<v Speaker 1>fish and we fight, mate, and we go home sabble,

0:57:16.280 --> 0:57:19.000
<v Speaker 1>and that's a beautiful thing. Man. We don't squabble in America. Man.

0:57:19.360 --> 0:57:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Just just imagine nine cats get out of the car

0:57:22.200 --> 0:57:25.240
<v Speaker 1>just to fight three cats that's standing there on the corner.

0:57:25.320 --> 0:57:27.640
<v Speaker 1>I guarantee you you ain't gonna get that many fights

0:57:27.760 --> 0:57:31.040
<v Speaker 1>because all these cats ain't good. From here. It's easy

0:57:31.120 --> 0:57:33.600
<v Speaker 1>to shoot somebody, man, It's not hard to shoot nobody.

0:57:33.880 --> 0:57:36.080
<v Speaker 1>And once you pull the trigger at one time, you're

0:57:36.080 --> 0:57:38.919
<v Speaker 1>gonna keep popping. You're gonna keep popping because the ship

0:57:39.000 --> 0:57:41.520
<v Speaker 1>feel Does it feel good? You know what I'm saying.

0:57:41.840 --> 0:57:44.560
<v Speaker 1>But just to get out and just just throw hands

0:57:44.640 --> 0:57:51.120
<v Speaker 1>and then okay and get back in the car. No, no, man,

0:57:51.200 --> 0:57:53.640
<v Speaker 1>we really got to pay attention to the way we live.

0:57:54.120 --> 0:57:56.919
<v Speaker 1>And and see, man, I should is short. We sell

0:57:56.960 --> 0:58:00.800
<v Speaker 1>it not short. I said short. Every day the way

0:58:00.840 --> 0:58:03.640
<v Speaker 1>we live out here, the way we live period. They

0:58:03.720 --> 0:58:06.320
<v Speaker 1>drinking the alcohol out of the Your shoe is called

0:58:06.360 --> 0:58:11.600
<v Speaker 1>a shoe a shoey. I couldn't do it. Yeah, I

0:58:11.720 --> 0:58:14.000
<v Speaker 1>hadn't been, idn't been up. But I thought you ended

0:58:14.080 --> 0:58:16.040
<v Speaker 1>up doing it. No, you didn't do it at all.

0:58:16.560 --> 0:58:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Don't know. I ain't drinking. He supposed to participate in

0:58:19.720 --> 0:58:22.000
<v Speaker 1>all that. I didn't participate. I took that beer and

0:58:22.120 --> 0:58:25.439
<v Speaker 1>drinking that. They kicked his ass on that he's spit

0:58:25.560 --> 0:58:28.439
<v Speaker 1>in half in the cup and he had to spit

0:58:28.520 --> 0:58:30.480
<v Speaker 1>that out and they were like, and they finished it.

0:58:30.960 --> 0:58:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I got that on video time. I don't know what

0:58:32.520 --> 0:58:37.200
<v Speaker 1>are you talking about. Stopped drinking. Go to Nick None's

0:58:37.200 --> 0:58:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Instagram and you'all can see it. Drin drink. Couldn't drink

0:58:40.200 --> 0:58:42.280
<v Speaker 1>with the boys. James can't drink with the boys. He

0:58:42.360 --> 0:58:45.000
<v Speaker 1>embarrassed us over there a lot of these countries. I'll

0:58:45.080 --> 0:58:50.560
<v Speaker 1>drink you, you know, the England, Ireland, austral Then out drink.

0:58:50.600 --> 0:58:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I went to this one guy slick house, drink, Bring God,

0:58:55.200 --> 0:58:57.400
<v Speaker 1>bring mom. James over to us. Man, come on, let's

0:58:57.400 --> 0:59:00.440
<v Speaker 1>have a shot and we can we can. Wouldn't do

0:59:01.800 --> 0:59:05.240
<v Speaker 1>God got nice, nice little shut up. He got two

0:59:05.320 --> 0:59:09.840
<v Speaker 1>different types of liquor, but they dark. I didn't want

0:59:09.880 --> 0:59:14.520
<v Speaker 1>to say no, I don't drink dark liquor. He got

0:59:14.600 --> 0:59:18.200
<v Speaker 1>this monkey sitting on his table with his uh. He

0:59:18.360 --> 0:59:20.560
<v Speaker 1>puts his joint in his mouth and let him do

0:59:20.720 --> 0:59:25.800
<v Speaker 1>his thing and it blows whatever. I don't know, James,

0:59:26.320 --> 0:59:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. And then we take another shot. We

0:59:30.240 --> 0:59:32.720
<v Speaker 1>leave from there and go somewhere else. Here we are,

0:59:32.760 --> 0:59:35.800
<v Speaker 1>we taking another shot, and then we get you, my boy,

0:59:36.400 --> 0:59:39.960
<v Speaker 1>what we did this this this interview. There he got

0:59:40.040 --> 0:59:46.640
<v Speaker 1>like nine women, not women are in his house. I'm

0:59:46.720 --> 0:59:48.840
<v Speaker 1>walking up the sidewalk. This is to a married man,

0:59:49.600 --> 0:59:53.400
<v Speaker 1>exactly exactly they were. They were young women. The young women.

0:59:53.920 --> 0:59:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm that guy that don't do I'm fifty four. I

0:59:57.040 --> 1:00:00.600
<v Speaker 1>don't do nothing under forty. You out to be old,

1:00:00.760 --> 1:00:03.720
<v Speaker 1>old enough to deal with it. I don't do chilling.

1:00:06.800 --> 1:00:09.960
<v Speaker 1>So I'm walking up just his driveway. The dude got

1:00:10.040 --> 1:00:12.640
<v Speaker 1>the gym the whole nights. So I said, this dude

1:00:12.680 --> 1:00:16.120
<v Speaker 1>better be buffed with all of this exercise equipment in there.

1:00:16.160 --> 1:00:20.120
<v Speaker 1>You got a tennis lion in his garage. So I

1:00:20.240 --> 1:00:23.919
<v Speaker 1>go in there. I've seen may nice chunky Chucky cat

1:00:24.560 --> 1:00:26.680
<v Speaker 1>said he came from one of the little islands out

1:00:26.720 --> 1:00:30.880
<v Speaker 1>there and and made his way there. No selling, no drugs,

1:00:30.960 --> 1:00:34.360
<v Speaker 1>no nothing. So he got all of these different little

1:00:34.400 --> 1:00:37.280
<v Speaker 1>businesses in these houses set up with with all of

1:00:37.320 --> 1:00:40.080
<v Speaker 1>these women that do interviews with people. What type of

1:00:40.120 --> 1:00:41.760
<v Speaker 1>drugs they have over there? I don't know what I

1:00:41.760 --> 1:00:44.880
<v Speaker 1>ain't saying, but it was one of those. One little

1:00:44.920 --> 1:00:48.120
<v Speaker 1>cat at the club was like you got some some

1:00:48.320 --> 1:00:50.080
<v Speaker 1>type of ship. And then the girl that was with us,

1:00:50.400 --> 1:00:54.320
<v Speaker 1>she was like, may now you get out here enough

1:00:54.560 --> 1:00:57.600
<v Speaker 1>here know somewhere else. With that, he turned around and

1:00:57.600 --> 1:01:01.160
<v Speaker 1>went upstairs. You know, we didn't be and like what

1:01:01.800 --> 1:01:04.680
<v Speaker 1>you're talking to He just went up the stairs. Right.

1:01:04.720 --> 1:01:08.160
<v Speaker 1>They're just so cool. So what basically what I'm saying

1:01:08.280 --> 1:01:10.680
<v Speaker 1>is is we don't have to live the way we

1:01:10.800 --> 1:01:14.480
<v Speaker 1>live in But I mean, I guess is we customed

1:01:14.520 --> 1:01:17.640
<v Speaker 1>to it the way we are and everybody good with that.

1:01:18.280 --> 1:01:20.760
<v Speaker 1>But just go just go out there and see it.

1:01:20.920 --> 1:01:24.520
<v Speaker 1>You you'll come home thinking totally different, especially about your

1:01:24.600 --> 1:01:27.280
<v Speaker 1>life and the ship you put in your body. Well,

1:01:27.320 --> 1:01:29.400
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like you had an amazing time in Australia.

1:01:29.480 --> 1:01:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully the next time you go, all of us can

1:01:32.000 --> 1:01:37.360
<v Speaker 1>go like a tensity tour. I've never been Australia, but

1:01:37.440 --> 1:01:39.400
<v Speaker 1>I definitely want to go. But let's get into a

1:01:39.480 --> 1:01:43.880
<v Speaker 1>couple of questions before we wrap up this episode of

1:01:43.920 --> 1:01:46.040
<v Speaker 1>The Gangster Chronicles. The first one I want to ask

1:01:46.320 --> 1:01:49.680
<v Speaker 1>is I guess I guess Reggie, you might know this.

1:01:49.960 --> 1:01:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Uh oh. Someone actually says they remember you mentioning this

1:01:52.680 --> 1:01:56.800
<v Speaker 1>on bomb First, that Shook shot himself by accident at

1:01:56.840 --> 1:02:00.280
<v Speaker 1>the Kanye West after party and they were a little

1:02:00.320 --> 1:02:03.000
<v Speaker 1>confused on what actually happened based on what you said

1:02:03.000 --> 1:02:06.840
<v Speaker 1>on Bomb First. I said it was that was investigated

1:02:07.200 --> 1:02:11.160
<v Speaker 1>and that was my opinion. But Shook sue Kanye West. Um,

1:02:12.160 --> 1:02:16.920
<v Speaker 1>but there's people out there now from um Jimmy Henchman

1:02:17.000 --> 1:02:21.320
<v Speaker 1>camp that's uh taking credit for it. Okay, So, Um,

1:02:22.880 --> 1:02:26.360
<v Speaker 1>he didn't shoot himself on accident. It was investigated. It's

1:02:26.400 --> 1:02:31.200
<v Speaker 1>still my opinion, um, because I know some investigations going

1:02:31.240 --> 1:02:35.480
<v Speaker 1>down while he's on proovalation and the way the the

1:02:35.600 --> 1:02:39.840
<v Speaker 1>gunshot appeared to be going down. But he sued Kanye West,

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<v Speaker 1>sending someone that is out too roch and recently someone

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<v Speaker 1>from Jimmy Henchman UM camp came out saying he was

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<v Speaker 1>the one that did it. And so there's two theories

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<v Speaker 1>on that he he shot himself or someone Jimmy Henchman

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<v Speaker 1>did it, or someone from Kanye West camp was Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>Henchman connected to Kanye's camp. Okay, so three theories. Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>Henchman one of Kanye's people, or he did it himself

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<v Speaker 1>and you believe he did it himself? Why is that

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<v Speaker 1>just the way? Uh? In the pants and and his

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<v Speaker 1>parooser was really on it. They almost violated on it.

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<v Speaker 1>And he had a go through some some legal troubles

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<v Speaker 1>that I know behind the scenes too to prove and

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<v Speaker 1>they just they just went on and dropped it and

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<v Speaker 1>nothing at all and suld sue Kanye. What came about

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<v Speaker 1>that lawsuit? Was there a settlement or I think this

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<v Speaker 1>got dropped all right? That question came from a swim

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<v Speaker 1>Factor on Twitter. I appreciate that. Um James, when you

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<v Speaker 1>walked away from my part, aru, did you ever feel

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<v Speaker 1>that your life was in danger? That's a question that

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<v Speaker 1>came in on Instagram. Did I ever feel like my

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<v Speaker 1>life after you walked away? I know you probably while

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<v Speaker 1>he was living my party, your life was in danger

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<v Speaker 1>every day life your your Yeah, your life is in

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<v Speaker 1>danger every day. But the question was really really from

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<v Speaker 1>your own homies like lead the Hood, not at all,

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<v Speaker 1>not at all. Uh No, when I when I left

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<v Speaker 1>and decided to that that this one for me and

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm living a whole lot. No, I walked away.

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<v Speaker 1>I said I'm done, And I honestly believe that if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm done, no more throwing up the size, no more

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<v Speaker 1>saying blood, no more, none of that. So I put

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<v Speaker 1>all of that to the side, and we'll just walked

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<v Speaker 1>away and just y'all leave me alone. I leave y'all alone.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm cool. I think that's important because there's this Hollywood theory.

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<v Speaker 1>Law enforcements also believes this that once you're in the gang,

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<v Speaker 1>you can never get out. A long time ago, they

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<v Speaker 1>have they have shipped like that, and I believe the

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<v Speaker 1>Messicans that's one of they, Uh, who's going to this

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<v Speaker 1>when when you get jumped in, either you get jumped

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<v Speaker 1>out of you get killed. Some of my things, so

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<v Speaker 1>you can look that up. And I don't believe that happens.

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<v Speaker 1>A long time ago. A long time ago, that was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the that was one of the rules. But no,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, I walked away and and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of cats walk away or disappear or what have you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, everybody ain't cut for it, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. And I think when when your

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<v Speaker 1>time is up, your time is up. You don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to die to get out the game. I wouldn't fin

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<v Speaker 1>the die to get out. So basically to me, if

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<v Speaker 1>you try to kill me, you better do it right

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<v Speaker 1>the first time, because if you shoot me and don't

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on, then I I don't have a choice

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<v Speaker 1>but to come. Look at you. You were just over

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<v Speaker 1>there in the hood with James about two weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you feel when you was with you? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I felt I felt great and that I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was a great example of you walked away from the hood,

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<v Speaker 1>But you're welcome to come back and talk to time.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to come and go back over there and

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<v Speaker 1>I go kick it and shit down dominoes whatever if

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<v Speaker 1>I well, I used to go over there to sho

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<v Speaker 1>down and have a drink. Uh. Where we was at

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<v Speaker 1>over there, Mom's just just that's my baby, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. I just pull up and go see

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<v Speaker 1>her or go around the corner. And you even saw

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<v Speaker 1>him at his mother funeral and you've seen a little

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<v Speaker 1>that was given there. Absolutely well, I mean all of them,

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<v Speaker 1>all of those cats was there from the neighborhood and

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<v Speaker 1>my mom's funeral. Yeah, and uh and uh that's that way,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm scared and uh, I'm just you know, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>maybe like funerals. Because we also revealed on the previous

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<v Speaker 1>episode of The Gangster Chronicles you didn't go to bunt

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<v Speaker 1>of his funeral, which if you guys want to hear

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<v Speaker 1>that story, go back about two or three episode. Because

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually surprised you you were surprised because I

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<v Speaker 1>thought him, I know, I've seen his dad. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen him and his that. But I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>ain't no sweat off nothing. I mean, yeah, I see.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody gotta understand, man, I had a relationship with the

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<v Speaker 1>rights way before the rights became police officers. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>his before he was before before his dad became a

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<v Speaker 1>police officers. His uncle Johns worked at uh Market Basket. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>His uncle Ulysses was our baseball coach when we were little.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, the whole family, the sisters, his aunties. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to be so in love with him, and

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<v Speaker 1>when we would go down the street just to take

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<v Speaker 1>out the trash for him, you know, we his grandma

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<v Speaker 1>and grandpa. I used to go over there and we

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<v Speaker 1>used to go to the grocery store. So what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think when his father became a cop, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he became a cop, being a ma paru being in

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<v Speaker 1>the streets, like, oh wow, the rights turned police. Even

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<v Speaker 1>even when when when him, Jaws and all of them

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<v Speaker 1>became police. Offer with Reggie and Jaws was finished six

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<v Speaker 1>and we was a little younger. The privilege we had

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<v Speaker 1>when he was the jailer. You know, they didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to give up cigarettes because you know, he would give

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<v Speaker 1>a cigarettes. And and that was pretty all the guys

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<v Speaker 1>that came through company police station. You know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>Not as a jailer, not as a jailer, but I

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<v Speaker 1>have history. His cousin Tony Little Will. All of these

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<v Speaker 1>guys slid in our backyard on the concrete, went the

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<v Speaker 1>concrete down and slide playing. So I go away further

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<v Speaker 1>than that. So when they when Reggie turned police officer,

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<v Speaker 1>it was I mean, we were still in your I

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<v Speaker 1>was a police explorer fourteen. It was always dest that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he was gonna be like his daddy. But

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<v Speaker 1>like I said right now, today, Reggie was a different

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<v Speaker 1>type of person that people didn't know way back in

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<v Speaker 1>the days. He just became a police officer. Now need

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<v Speaker 1>them broke up out of that that that that uniform.

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<v Speaker 1>This thugs in over here. Man about to go to

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<v Speaker 1>a federal pitip sentry. I don't know if you wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about it. I ain't telling how I'm loan,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm on my way. But you said you looked

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<v Speaker 1>out for I guess the people that you grew up.

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<v Speaker 1>And when they came to the jail, Biggie and all

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<v Speaker 1>of them, Biggie that told stories gonna bomb first where

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<v Speaker 1>he was about to get rushed, and he said when

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<v Speaker 1>he saw me, it was like the red I can't

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<v Speaker 1>even know what you're doing in there with the niggas

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<v Speaker 1>got him out. So it's been situation shaved me one

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<v Speaker 1>day with with Eric. He was behind me, well allegedly

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<v Speaker 1>behind me in the drive by shooting. So you Shay,

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<v Speaker 1>who was Eric parrodon or whatever your name. And he

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<v Speaker 1>was a police officer at the time at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a d A now and American American. He was

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<v Speaker 1>apparently behind me. So as this situation went down, we

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<v Speaker 1>buck the UH left going through the hood and next

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<v Speaker 1>time we heard sign where sirens was heard. But when

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<v Speaker 1>they called me, I was sitting down on the break wall, chilling,

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<v Speaker 1>doing the whole nine kicking with all the others and

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<v Speaker 1>they pulled up. He take me to jail, and he

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<v Speaker 1>basically told me, I saw you shoot these motherfuckers. No

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't, No you didn't. We need to get your

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<v Speaker 1>daddy on here because this true story. So I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>there and I'm telling you, no, you didn't. You didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see me do nothing. So uh, he thought he was

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<v Speaker 1>going to do something. But I've always plucked him at

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<v Speaker 1>the limp with plunge every time Louis Park, Louis Park swimming.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to walk through there and just haven't penned

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<v Speaker 1>sucking over fifty cent. And we might have gone through

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<v Speaker 1>now to a cop, you know what I'm saying. So

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<v Speaker 1>he thought he played the big cop role all them

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<v Speaker 1>in there. They unhandcuffed me. Hey come Big Red and

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<v Speaker 1>he talking ship but looked over. When I seen Big Ridge,

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<v Speaker 1>I got kind of like, more man, fuck you, you

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<v Speaker 1>ain't see who whoo. So he goes to try to

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<v Speaker 1>get me and I lunched back at him. He could

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<v Speaker 1>have whoop my ass in there, but Reggy said, hold

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<v Speaker 1>up topic and Reggie grabbed Bamas Church snatched me out

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<v Speaker 1>there there. Do you know what you're doing. He could

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<v Speaker 1>have went real bad in there for me, So I

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<v Speaker 1>always thank him for that saving my ass, just just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to be an asshole. Did you and Eric Cartty

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<v Speaker 1>never you know Dannel never met him, never talked uh

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<v Speaker 1>after after he became a police he became was he

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<v Speaker 1>I think he was a d a Then I know

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't going to go to jail and have to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with that dude. And then he became the mayor,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was like, man, I used to what was

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<v Speaker 1>this guy? And and and that goes to show man,

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<v Speaker 1>you never know who you funk with. When you when

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<v Speaker 1>you're dealing with somebody, messing with somebody, you never know

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<v Speaker 1>what that person is gonna be. Then this time you

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<v Speaker 1>see them. I say this to everybody. You can mess

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<v Speaker 1>with the simplest person and that could be a demon,

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<v Speaker 1>he could be a devil. You don't know who you're

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with. And then you go messing with these people

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<v Speaker 1>and then you get the shoulder end of the stick

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<v Speaker 1>and then we complain. Ain't no complaining, it's too late.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't you don't bid off too much already you

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<v Speaker 1>started this ship. So I mean, man, we just gotta

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<v Speaker 1>we just gotta fix this us, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just think and I wish all of us

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<v Speaker 1>could just just sit out and pay attention to each

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<v Speaker 1>other and just say, we don't have to kill each other.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have the gang bang. Let's get a big

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<v Speaker 1>as boxing ring and then put these cats in the

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<v Speaker 1>ring on the weekends and you can bet on the

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<v Speaker 1>fight and do whatever. Put the gun, yeamn, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>need the gun. We need to learn how to accept

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<v Speaker 1>ass whopens I mean they do. Some cats don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>and they ain't had that fight because it's always about

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<v Speaker 1>a pistol. A lot of these cats ain't had no

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<v Speaker 1>hand to hand, no no squad for a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these young cats thrive off of fade. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, how you should be a long time ago. Now, Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna kill his cat and get it over with.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fifty five, fifty four. I ain't finified. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna blow your head off. No, why are you in

1:13:21.479 --> 1:13:24.160
<v Speaker 1>this situation to do that? Anyway? Well, when you got

1:13:24.240 --> 1:13:28.880
<v Speaker 1>a big age difference or generational difference, the youngster that's

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one years old ain't gonna go head up with

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<v Speaker 1>the O G. That's fifty two or fifty three or not.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, why not. But in most instances you're not

1:13:38.280 --> 1:13:40.599
<v Speaker 1>gonna see that. If you ain't gonna see it. If

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<v Speaker 1>you respect me, respect me to the fullest. Don't have

1:13:43.680 --> 1:13:46.920
<v Speaker 1>as respect me just because you I'm the big homie.

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<v Speaker 1>If I said this is the way it should be,

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<v Speaker 1>or don't do it like this. I didn't play this

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<v Speaker 1>game before. So I know these little cats out here

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<v Speaker 1>in the street right now that they are hard hit it.

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<v Speaker 1>They ain't listening to you. You you have to kill

1:14:00.960 --> 1:14:03.840
<v Speaker 1>one of them. But it is a waste of fucking life,

1:14:04.439 --> 1:14:06.680
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. And nine times out of ten,

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, why did you kill

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<v Speaker 1>that dude? You can honestly sit there and be kicking

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<v Speaker 1>it with the homies and drinking. Why are you killing No,

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<v Speaker 1>I just felt like shooting that food. Come on, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that don't make no damn sense. And that's what I've

1:14:21.200 --> 1:14:25.599
<v Speaker 1>never had a reason why. But he was a crip,

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<v Speaker 1>or he was this or he was that. That's the

1:14:28.400 --> 1:14:30.200
<v Speaker 1>only reason I had to do what I had to do.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is what we're doing. You know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Reggie and James, this question is for both

1:14:40.160 --> 1:14:42.080
<v Speaker 1>of y'all. If you can go back in time during

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<v Speaker 1>the early death Row years, what would you do different

1:14:45.920 --> 1:14:50.559
<v Speaker 1>that could possibly have changed the trajectory of Death Row forever?

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<v Speaker 1>What can you if you can go back in hindsight course, Reggie,

1:14:55.400 --> 1:15:02.360
<v Speaker 1>what would you do different? Um? Well, the obvious question

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<v Speaker 1>is September the seven, what is it? Let's not go

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<v Speaker 1>to this fight. Stay our asks in content, Let's not

1:15:10.760 --> 1:15:12.479
<v Speaker 1>go to the fight. But you got the club six six,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's stay home, Tupac, go watch it, go watch the Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You got that big old spot in Wilshire, on Wilshire

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<v Speaker 1>with a big old, nice big screen TV that you

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<v Speaker 1>just got. Well, you got this nice little house in Calabasas.

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<v Speaker 1>That's well, you know, everybody's at go watch the fight there.

1:15:34.680 --> 1:15:39.080
<v Speaker 1>That's Monday back quarterback. And that's so I don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>in that, you know, trying to change you know, time

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<v Speaker 1>and all of that. But yeah, that's a question. And

1:15:45.600 --> 1:15:48.840
<v Speaker 1>that's what that changed. That was the start of the

1:15:48.920 --> 1:15:52.439
<v Speaker 1>downfall of the front. They got shiged, got chilled by

1:15:52.520 --> 1:15:56.000
<v Speaker 1>later they got you got shuged nine year violations. You

1:15:56.080 --> 1:16:00.400
<v Speaker 1>did five pod losters life, and then a whole bunch

1:16:00.400 --> 1:16:03.720
<v Speaker 1>of other things trickled out of control after that, I

1:16:03.840 --> 1:16:08.479
<v Speaker 1>mean personally out of truly stayed on sugar Head. I

1:16:08.520 --> 1:16:11.720
<v Speaker 1>should have stayed on sugar Head. Uh, I could have.

1:16:11.960 --> 1:16:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I should have had a better, uh way better understanding

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<v Speaker 1>with my brother. I'd have told him, cast this ain't

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<v Speaker 1>how we're doing it. This is a business, treated like business,

1:16:22.080 --> 1:16:24.599
<v Speaker 1>and and everything is cool. We didn't have to bring

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<v Speaker 1>game baying and all that bullshit into this business because

1:16:29.240 --> 1:16:31.640
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, we all lost. But

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<v Speaker 1>I would have definitely stayed on sugar Head and then

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<v Speaker 1>not have them bring all those guys in like that.

1:16:38.960 --> 1:16:40.720
<v Speaker 1>If we're gonna go back to the hood, we can

1:16:40.760 --> 1:16:42.920
<v Speaker 1>go back to the hood and take care of hood

1:16:43.000 --> 1:16:46.880
<v Speaker 1>from this perspective, not from a gang perspective. You feel me,

1:16:47.520 --> 1:16:50.160
<v Speaker 1>So I definitely would have stayed on Should come on, shoo,

1:16:50.280 --> 1:16:52.400
<v Speaker 1>this ain't the right way, This ain't the way we

1:16:52.439 --> 1:16:55.080
<v Speaker 1>should do it. And if he had listened, then because

1:16:55.120 --> 1:16:59.120
<v Speaker 1>She'll had so much influence with all the people, everybody

1:16:59.200 --> 1:17:01.960
<v Speaker 1>in that business is should could have got what he wanted.

1:17:02.760 --> 1:17:05.720
<v Speaker 1>People understood that Should was was ready for whatever we

1:17:05.880 --> 1:17:08.160
<v Speaker 1>was ready to fight. We was ready to do our ship,

1:17:08.640 --> 1:17:13.200
<v Speaker 1>but we should have been more structured and that in

1:17:13.280 --> 1:17:15.880
<v Speaker 1>that business and looked at up, looked at it from

1:17:15.920 --> 1:17:20.519
<v Speaker 1>a longevity point opposed to right then and then type

1:17:20.520 --> 1:17:23.439
<v Speaker 1>of ship. But I would definitely try to be on him,

1:17:23.520 --> 1:17:26.719
<v Speaker 1>been on him and my brother slow your goddamn rolled

1:17:27.240 --> 1:17:30.400
<v Speaker 1>and I probably would have just walked away as easy

1:17:30.479 --> 1:17:32.880
<v Speaker 1>as I did. He probably you probably want to listen

1:17:32.920 --> 1:17:36.640
<v Speaker 1>to you though. He would him, he would have, but

1:17:37.520 --> 1:17:40.800
<v Speaker 1>I didn't apply that. I just let him do that.

1:17:41.520 --> 1:17:44.200
<v Speaker 1>And and you know, it's it's a lot to it,

1:17:44.920 --> 1:17:47.000
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people don't understand, you know what

1:17:47.200 --> 1:17:50.320
<v Speaker 1>we say, Like now, it's a lot more insight to

1:17:50.439 --> 1:17:52.360
<v Speaker 1>it is a lot of the ship that was going

1:17:52.439 --> 1:18:00.040
<v Speaker 1>on from the inside of it that that prevented a

1:18:00.120 --> 1:18:03.280
<v Speaker 1>lot of real ship and positive ship from happening because

1:18:03.600 --> 1:18:08.760
<v Speaker 1>everybody was on different pages and everybody wasn't working together. Everybody.

1:18:09.560 --> 1:18:12.839
<v Speaker 1>You had you had guys hating the homies hating the homies,

1:18:13.400 --> 1:18:17.280
<v Speaker 1>you had homies talking to other motherfucker's just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out when some other individuals getting paid. And it

1:18:21.280 --> 1:18:23.479
<v Speaker 1>was it was a bunch of different ships that happened

1:18:23.840 --> 1:18:27.800
<v Speaker 1>and led up to this. Things should have changed when

1:18:27.840 --> 1:18:30.479
<v Speaker 1>Tupac came. And then that's why I said, well it

1:18:30.560 --> 1:18:33.519
<v Speaker 1>should should have stepped his game up and said, Okay,

1:18:34.160 --> 1:18:38.479
<v Speaker 1>I gotta protect this. This is this is high this

1:18:38.680 --> 1:18:42.240
<v Speaker 1>is how we do this instead of just letting everybody

1:18:42.400 --> 1:18:46.000
<v Speaker 1>just go just just run loose, and it is what

1:18:46.160 --> 1:18:49.240
<v Speaker 1>it is. Actually, I have a question in in the

1:18:49.640 --> 1:18:56.760
<v Speaker 1>MGM incident, there were no right way security in that entourage.

1:18:58.560 --> 1:19:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Am I wrong? Okay? How many were there? Because if

1:19:02.400 --> 1:19:05.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm in hindsight, I would say I would keep two

1:19:05.600 --> 1:19:09.400
<v Speaker 1>people on POC to security on POC at all times.

1:19:10.280 --> 1:19:12.320
<v Speaker 1>And if if Sugar is there are three, if if

1:19:12.360 --> 1:19:16.320
<v Speaker 1>pockin Sugar together three so that that whole Orlando Anderson

1:19:16.400 --> 1:19:23.840
<v Speaker 1>incident would have never happened and then everybody still be alive. Yeah,

1:19:23.960 --> 1:19:27.920
<v Speaker 1>because and I say this too, with Reggie security there,

1:19:28.320 --> 1:19:32.680
<v Speaker 1>and then you take brunchry Neckbone and and and uh

1:19:34.320 --> 1:19:38.519
<v Speaker 1>and Heron and George, you just take somebody from there

1:19:39.080 --> 1:19:44.040
<v Speaker 1>and their security they they policing Reggie security and Shoe

1:19:44.240 --> 1:19:46.519
<v Speaker 1>and Tupac. They should never be in a way of

1:19:46.600 --> 1:19:50.040
<v Speaker 1>nothing at homes way of anything. Tupac, like they said,

1:19:50.160 --> 1:19:53.080
<v Speaker 1>he's hard hited. He took off on his own where

1:19:53.120 --> 1:19:55.880
<v Speaker 1>you can't control that unless you have dudes on him.

1:19:55.920 --> 1:19:57.320
<v Speaker 1>But would have had him, I would have been on

1:19:57.439 --> 1:19:59.960
<v Speaker 1>him and wouldn't have been bad. I wouldn't trusted y'all

1:20:00.000 --> 1:20:03.120
<v Speaker 1>a long pop because y'all got the gangster mentality. But

1:20:03.240 --> 1:20:05.320
<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm would have been like joining in pop

1:20:05.680 --> 1:20:07.840
<v Speaker 1>when when? So, who are you gonna take to the fight.

1:20:07.880 --> 1:20:10.240
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna take You're gonna take the homies to the fighter.

1:20:10.280 --> 1:20:12.080
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna take a much scarity cards to the both.

1:20:12.280 --> 1:20:14.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, all y'all know each other. The Homies was

1:20:14.160 --> 1:20:19.080
<v Speaker 1>in there anyway, you know, had tickets and and that

1:20:19.240 --> 1:20:21.479
<v Speaker 1>was like we didn't have tickets. Think that's why the

1:20:21.520 --> 1:20:25.120
<v Speaker 1>outlaws got left that house. If Tray would a Shane

1:20:25.720 --> 1:20:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Orlando good ruge, y'all just got into it. You know,

1:20:30.000 --> 1:20:35.760
<v Speaker 1>its only cracket on site. He should have took off. Yeah,

1:20:35.840 --> 1:20:38.840
<v Speaker 1>come back, I mean we could talk about what if.

1:20:41.160 --> 1:20:45.800
<v Speaker 1>That's definite um. In his defense, he was pretty much

1:20:45.880 --> 1:20:48.240
<v Speaker 1>saying that he was coming to get permission from his

1:20:48.320 --> 1:20:51.560
<v Speaker 1>homeboys to do that. Who should Well that's when he

1:20:51.680 --> 1:20:54.160
<v Speaker 1>by saying, I was talking to my big homies. I

1:20:54.320 --> 1:20:59.040
<v Speaker 1>wasn't talking to two pop. That's Trade defense. And he

1:20:59.160 --> 1:21:01.439
<v Speaker 1>never really went into detail about this in any interview.

1:21:01.479 --> 1:21:03.439
<v Speaker 1>I know you had him on Bomb first a while ago,

1:21:03.560 --> 1:21:06.760
<v Speaker 1>but very brief interview. He didn't want to answer too

1:21:06.800 --> 1:21:11.880
<v Speaker 1>many questions. I know you to talk to him about

1:21:11.920 --> 1:21:15.160
<v Speaker 1>this many talks how That's how I got the I

1:21:15.360 --> 1:21:17.200
<v Speaker 1>was one of the ones. That's what he called me

1:21:17.560 --> 1:21:18.920
<v Speaker 1>if I was a little red. Why do you keep

1:21:18.960 --> 1:21:22.040
<v Speaker 1>saying I whispered in his ear? I didn't whisper in

1:21:22.120 --> 1:21:25.679
<v Speaker 1>his ear. Your security guy is the one that started

1:21:25.760 --> 1:21:28.519
<v Speaker 1>that rumor. I talked to Trade the day we did

1:21:28.640 --> 1:21:32.280
<v Speaker 1>the interview, and I caught him on on the on

1:21:32.439 --> 1:21:36.360
<v Speaker 1>the Block and uh, he said, and we agreed to this.

1:21:37.000 --> 1:21:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I told him, yeah, I said that you he's the

1:21:39.640 --> 1:21:42.160
<v Speaker 1>one that whishper and said YadA YadA, because she that's

1:21:42.200 --> 1:21:44.960
<v Speaker 1>what she told me, that you whispered. If you wouldn't

1:21:44.960 --> 1:21:49.760
<v Speaker 1>have whispered too, I used to say it, okay, So

1:21:50.000 --> 1:21:54.840
<v Speaker 1>so Sul actually told you that Trade that he said

1:21:54.920 --> 1:21:57.160
<v Speaker 1>he didn't, I said, okay, exactly, And I came back

1:21:57.200 --> 1:21:59.719
<v Speaker 1>on the show and and and switched it up. Trade

1:21:59.720 --> 1:22:02.360
<v Speaker 1>bonds there a sugar night life for you right there.

1:22:03.200 --> 1:22:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Mistake is not a lie just because he said he

1:22:05.800 --> 1:22:08.360
<v Speaker 1>don't know this is what was out there. You saying

1:22:08.400 --> 1:22:10.519
<v Speaker 1>I was lying, Let me let me say I'm not.

1:22:10.600 --> 1:22:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm just responding to this. I just said we had

1:22:17.720 --> 1:22:21.200
<v Speaker 1>a good If y'all believe that Trayvon Lane did not

1:22:21.439 --> 1:22:26.679
<v Speaker 1>whisper in pox here, there's so it came from all

1:22:26.760 --> 1:22:28.720
<v Speaker 1>of us. I used to say it. But I'm a

1:22:28.800 --> 1:22:31.280
<v Speaker 1>liar because I used to say that that's what we perceived,

1:22:31.320 --> 1:22:34.160
<v Speaker 1>that what we always heard. That's when we all all read,

1:22:34.479 --> 1:22:38.719
<v Speaker 1>that's what we all put out there. A video showed

1:22:38.920 --> 1:22:41.599
<v Speaker 1>the video that you didn't see that after that show,

1:22:41.840 --> 1:22:45.880
<v Speaker 1>after that episode aired, somebody sent me a message chain

1:22:46.040 --> 1:22:48.160
<v Speaker 1>there's another video. I don't know if it's true or not.

1:22:48.240 --> 1:22:52.240
<v Speaker 1>It's another video or sixty minutes has another video where

1:22:52.479 --> 1:22:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Trayvon Lane is whisper in his ear. Of course, I

1:22:56.240 --> 1:23:02.439
<v Speaker 1>guess they should put that out. There's no but but

1:23:02.520 --> 1:23:04.920
<v Speaker 1>we can only go by Trayvon's word, and I'm just

1:23:04.960 --> 1:23:08.599
<v Speaker 1>saying what he reported, or until we see that video,

1:23:09.400 --> 1:23:11.720
<v Speaker 1>then I gotta go by based on the man word.

1:23:12.280 --> 1:23:15.439
<v Speaker 1>And did anyone ever Sugar or James, do you ask

1:23:15.520 --> 1:23:18.240
<v Speaker 1>you why did you say that? If no, no, I mean,

1:23:18.320 --> 1:23:21.040
<v Speaker 1>it's long after and when he said that, that's what

1:23:21.160 --> 1:23:23.639
<v Speaker 1>I went by at this time. I'm not talking another

1:23:24.160 --> 1:23:27.000
<v Speaker 1>believe that. I believe that I just had with this.

1:23:27.240 --> 1:23:30.240
<v Speaker 1>He told me that when I was doing any interview

1:23:30.320 --> 1:23:34.080
<v Speaker 1>with you, and okay, I'm saying, okay, no, So now

1:23:34.160 --> 1:23:38.000
<v Speaker 1>you gotta think. Okay, if if if Trayvon didn't say that,

1:23:38.280 --> 1:23:42.200
<v Speaker 1>somebody told Jupark who this cat was, because tray Bon don't,

1:23:42.280 --> 1:23:44.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean Tupac don't know this dude from Jack the

1:23:44.640 --> 1:23:50.679
<v Speaker 1>correct point. He said, I was talking to Bountry Neckbone Shilk,

1:23:50.800 --> 1:23:54.240
<v Speaker 1>who was standing right there as well, my big homies.

1:23:54.680 --> 1:23:58.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm coming to tell my big homies, Hey, there's the

1:23:58.680 --> 1:24:01.759
<v Speaker 1>dude that I got into would or snatched my attempt

1:24:01.800 --> 1:24:04.000
<v Speaker 1>at to snatch my change whatever the words were. Who

1:24:04.040 --> 1:24:06.960
<v Speaker 1>knows what the work. But his whole point was, I

1:24:07.040 --> 1:24:09.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't go whisper in pox air. I'm talking to my

1:24:09.479 --> 1:24:12.680
<v Speaker 1>big homies, letting them know, and he over heard and

1:24:12.760 --> 1:24:15.000
<v Speaker 1>took off in ran That's what he told you. That's

1:24:15.000 --> 1:24:19.240
<v Speaker 1>what he's telling me. Hey, that's his story. It could

1:24:19.280 --> 1:24:22.200
<v Speaker 1>be rehearsed, it could be after Monday back quarterback. I

1:24:22.240 --> 1:24:24.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know. That's his story. Yeah, I mean it could

1:24:24.840 --> 1:24:29.360
<v Speaker 1>be true. We don't know. I mean, it's it's a

1:24:29.640 --> 1:24:34.080
<v Speaker 1>terrible thing to have people the world. I think that

1:24:34.479 --> 1:24:41.880
<v Speaker 1>something you did cause pox death. No, no, not defensive traypon.

1:24:41.920 --> 1:24:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I didn't tell the man to go take off. He

1:24:44.040 --> 1:24:46.040
<v Speaker 1>did that on his own. Pockets are grown ass man

1:24:46.120 --> 1:24:49.800
<v Speaker 1>twenty years also a grown man. Don't say that. Why

1:24:49.840 --> 1:24:51.960
<v Speaker 1>as they saying that now? But they're claiming he from

1:24:52.000 --> 1:24:54.240
<v Speaker 1>the hood and all his other bullshit. None of your

1:24:54.479 --> 1:24:56.400
<v Speaker 1>because you from the hood. You don't mean you have

1:24:56.479 --> 1:24:58.200
<v Speaker 1>to go take all when you gotta school and you

1:24:58.240 --> 1:25:00.439
<v Speaker 1>don't know Jackson about that, don't And he had to

1:25:00.479 --> 1:25:03.040
<v Speaker 1>go take off and do that. He could have said,

1:25:03.040 --> 1:25:04.280
<v Speaker 1>all right, we're gonna get that nig as soon as

1:25:04.320 --> 1:25:06.920
<v Speaker 1>he walked out of the plan well instead of out

1:25:06.960 --> 1:25:09.360
<v Speaker 1>of the land, they should have snatched part off of

1:25:09.439 --> 1:25:10.880
<v Speaker 1>him and took him the funk out of this and

1:25:10.960 --> 1:25:12.639
<v Speaker 1>then they got him out there real good. I thought,

1:25:12.640 --> 1:25:15.400
<v Speaker 1>I went to Lando and they got away, because what

1:25:15.560 --> 1:25:18.599
<v Speaker 1>was gonna with that onge? What nobody did you see?

1:25:18.640 --> 1:25:22.080
<v Speaker 1>How people getting it was damn foods. Yeah, it was

1:25:22.080 --> 1:25:26.120
<v Speaker 1>a little too late, so you know, it's that's what

1:25:26.200 --> 1:25:28.920
<v Speaker 1>I would have did anyway, somebody should have stopped Pop,

1:25:29.040 --> 1:25:32.439
<v Speaker 1>whether it was Right Way security or somebody from mob

1:25:32.680 --> 1:25:34.960
<v Speaker 1>right with scary didn't get him on him. But I'm

1:25:35.000 --> 1:25:38.720
<v Speaker 1>saying before he took off, before he started running, you're

1:25:38.760 --> 1:25:43.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna get over your pocket running and grab him back.

1:25:43.960 --> 1:25:46.640
<v Speaker 1>The video, I mean, he wasn't running, he wasn't doing

1:25:46.680 --> 1:25:51.920
<v Speaker 1>ad this. This, This was walking past the homies. Get down. Now.

1:25:52.000 --> 1:25:54.080
<v Speaker 1>The homies should have been to the side in the

1:25:54.160 --> 1:25:57.040
<v Speaker 1>conference like mac man let me how let you now

1:25:57.040 --> 1:26:00.240
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. They're gonna entourage and just you know, talking

1:26:01.200 --> 1:26:03.680
<v Speaker 1>with all them people and you can actually hear what

1:26:04.160 --> 1:26:09.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about. That's one thing they should have pulled

1:26:09.720 --> 1:26:11.559
<v Speaker 1>to the side, and the homies shops should have got

1:26:11.600 --> 1:26:16.960
<v Speaker 1>all the homies and homies. This motherfucker's right here. Now

1:26:17.439 --> 1:26:21.639
<v Speaker 1>we do some game, bank and ship. It ain't tupark

1:26:21.800 --> 1:26:24.360
<v Speaker 1>job to do this. Tuparc ain't getting paid to beat

1:26:24.439 --> 1:26:29.320
<v Speaker 1>up no comforts, some comfort. Goddamnit. These are rivals. Let's

1:26:29.320 --> 1:26:33.240
<v Speaker 1>go a hand on our business. And that's what that

1:26:33.400 --> 1:26:36.280
<v Speaker 1>question came in from Mia Lynn on Instagram. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to thank her and everybody else for submitting questions, and

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to say that. I wanted to say that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I wanna. I want to thank everybody, and

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<v Speaker 1>getting them out as quick as I can. Some people

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<v Speaker 1>was getting them a day after I met him out,

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<v Speaker 1>which is cool. I'm glad everybody loving it. Um, I've um.

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<v Speaker 1>I started my promise. If y'all can see on on Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I started with my brother's uh granddaughter and

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<v Speaker 1>gave them and now I'm trying to reach out a

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<v Speaker 1>windows to give me to the hook up so I

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<v Speaker 1>can send this two hundred and fifty bucks to Shug

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'm waiting on UH A a little hook

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<v Speaker 1>up with Cynthia Nunum so I can give her the

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<v Speaker 1>three D four hundred bucks UH Through her organization, she

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<v Speaker 1>feed everybody in Compton every weekend, the homeless, and and

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<v Speaker 1>we wanna help help her out with that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred bus can feed maybe another hundred people, so

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<v Speaker 1>we definitely want to want to get that to him

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<v Speaker 1>and and just take care everybody. So I'm doing what

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<v Speaker 1>I said I was gonna do, and I appreciate everybody

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<v Speaker 1>for helping me out doing it to do it. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And Cynthia nuns organization is called Sylvia nun Angels, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just recently interviewed her and the links to her

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<v Speaker 1>organization are on my interview and you can find her

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<v Speaker 1>on Facebook. Two don't forget, We're gonna be doing a

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<v Speaker 1>live broadcast of the show real soon, so just stay

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<v Speaker 1>tuned for that. Well, hopefully we'll have more information on

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<v Speaker 1>that next week. And and the website, the Gangster Chronicles

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<v Speaker 1>podcast dot com that will be the site where you'll

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<v Speaker 1>be able to get tickets for our live show coming

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<v Speaker 1>real soon. Thanks for listening again, I'm out. This has

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<v Speaker 1>been a digital SOAPBUTS Network production