1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles. Well, James McDonald, RIXI, 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: Rei Jr. And Allen Tomanso on the Digital Soapbox Network 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: material witness on an aggregated Battery, I was a hang 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: gun and um they believe this might be in retaliation 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: to her testimony. All right, welcome to another episode of 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: The Gangster Chronicles. My name is Alex Alonso from Street 7 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: Gangs dot Com ak Street TV, where I interview gang members, 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 1: former and current gang members, hip hop artists, authors, entertainers, 9 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: and other influencers. And I'm here today with Reggie right, 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: Julia and James. And James is back. He is back 11 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: from Australia and we're gonna talk a little bit about that. 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: But I just want everyone to know that this is 13 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: episode number twenty, and if you're new to the podcast, 14 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: please go back and listen to some previous episodes. Most 15 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: of our episodes are inter related, so you can start 16 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: an episode one and get caught up to today's episode 17 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: twenty and you won't hear me until episode three, so 18 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: don't be confused. 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Also, 29 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: I want to announce that soon, very soon, we'll be 30 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: doing a live show at a venue a venue to 31 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: be determined later in the Los Angeles area. So if 32 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: you're a big fan of the show, we'll let you 33 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: know you can come out and listen to us live 34 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: and come check us out in person and watch the show. 35 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: And we'll have more details about the location and how 36 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: to get tickets very soon. And I also want people 37 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: to go check out the new website for the podcast, 38 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: The Gangster Chronicles podcast dot com. That's www dot The 39 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: Gangster Chronicles podcast dot com. And I'm almost certain that 40 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: tickets to our live show will be available through that website. 41 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: And Reggie still interrupted me, but also want um to 42 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: give our social media contexts. James McDonald could be found 43 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: on Facebook under James McDonald. You have two Facebook pages, 44 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: so it could be a little confusing. Well big j 45 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: uh thirty six thirty six okay. And your Instagram is 46 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: also the same, the same thing. You could also find 47 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: leave Me Alone. You can find Reggie Right Junr. And 48 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: sometimes they'll give us questions. You can find Reggie Right Jr. 49 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: On his face Facebook page Reggie Right Jr. And he's 50 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: also on Instagram under Reggie dot Right dot Jr. And 51 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: you can feed us some questions there. And I'm on 52 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook all under Alex Alonso. One 53 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: oh one. Al right, So before we get into our episode, 54 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: I just want to do a couple of quick fact 55 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: checks from a couple of previous episodes. Actually episode number seventeen, 56 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: which was called Rumors. Russell Pool died August nineteen, two fifteen, 57 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: at the age of fifty eight. He died of an 58 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: aneurysm Oh, my goodness, this guy is clapping the death 59 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: of a person. I think we might have said he 60 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: died of a heart attack some but he died of 61 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: aneurism at the age of fifty eight, so he's relatively young. 62 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: And it was just and it was just a few 63 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: years ago on August nineteen. That was Reggie Wright clapping, 64 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: y'all that was wondering who that was. He's clapping the 65 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: death of murder, murder, trying to get my lively the 66 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: police do you should know as a former police officer, 67 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: you investigate DVDs and books. Okay, let me say this. 68 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: Here it is and I trying to keep you one 69 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: hunting on this. Yeah, this is why we are the 70 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: way we are today because we applauded it like this 71 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: and and we just don't give a funk about life. 72 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: I have a whole different understanding of life. As they're 73 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: coming from Australia. Those people do not live the way 74 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: we live. They do not think the way we think. 75 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: They're not accused people of false well I mean not 76 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: even that either. But it's every individual itself have to 77 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: learn and and just really understand theirselfs before they get 78 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: the applaud and death. What happens when when you die 79 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: and somebody applaud your death part You know what I'm saying, 80 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: My life insurance policy paid up, but your wife ain't 81 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: gonna like it, your kids ain't gonna like it. You 82 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You never want to wish death 83 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: upon your worst enemy. You don't. You don't. And and 84 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 1: as a cop, I understand Russell Pool. Even before he 85 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: retired from the l ap D. He was going down 86 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: all these weird theories that had nothing to do with 87 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: bro It got personal. You don't even more. But how 88 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: many of his theories were wrong, Not just the Reggie 89 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: Wright theory, but all of it. I thought he had 90 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: a couple of other theories of got killed cooking ramparts 91 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: that I've been telling me, and that he's done showed 92 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: that never I've never known, I didn't have no connections 93 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: with all right, and that he could never prove so 94 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: he should have left it there. Well, we're gonna hear 95 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: more about your trip to Australia. James um more more 96 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: fact check Kevin gaines Um. He was actually shot and 97 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: killed at the intersection of Lancashim Inventura in Studio City, 98 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: which is the city of l a um Mark j 99 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: T s at the young age of thirty one. Damn. 100 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: He was born in sixty six, got killed in ninety seven. 101 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: He was also mentioned in the episode Rumors episode number seventeen. 102 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: So that's all I have for fact checking. And I 103 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: don't know if we're gonna go into the this audio 104 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: clip first. Let's get the audio clip first, and then 105 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: we're going to James is a trip to Australia because 106 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:10,239 Speaker 1: it's the first time we've been together, um since James 107 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: got back three weeks. In three weeks, we did that 108 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: show two weeks ago with you on the phone. So yeah, 109 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: this is the first time all three have been together. 110 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: So let's get into this this phone call and Reggie, 111 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: let's set it up first before we run this clip. 112 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: All right, So you know Snoop Dogg being um lately 113 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: on this campaign. We're in the death row chains and 114 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: and because the no Limit stuff didn't work out for him, 115 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: because he was wearing the no Limit chain but that 116 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: didn't work out and people didn't react to it, and 117 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: so now he's trying to get the music licensed and 118 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: all of that. So he's trying to do a kiss 119 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: Snoop chilks asked from jail and doing songs and all 120 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: of that. Uh, but you know, Snoop, you remember when 121 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: you're supposed to shot three thousand dollars through the cash app. 122 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: You never did that, homie. But anyway, um so anyway, 123 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: he uh, he's been on this big campaign and then 124 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: he also in this campaign and said he is the 125 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: reason that U Suge Knight went to the Prison of 126 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: Good Tupac a prison. It was his idea for that. 127 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: He's trying to take credit for it. So well, y'all 128 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: does he deserve partial credit? Speak So y'all don't never 129 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: want to listen to Reggie right because I've been telling 130 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: you how they went how they went down, and so 131 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: here's something that shigs on words that y'all can listen to, 132 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: and then we'll talk about it after that. The prison, 133 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: all the people he helped in helogy talk with from 134 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: business and parts and make him down like uh like uh, 135 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: interschool people. He was over the state a certain artist. 136 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: He didn't you want to talk about the letter with 137 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: that Madonna was sold piss because he was joking when 138 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: Donna never came to see and she never putting that 139 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,559 Speaker 1: one dollar on his books when he when he reached 140 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: out for me to come to see him. He didn't 141 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: have money for not doing that alone, Commissary, he's not hidings, 142 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He didn't have ship and 143 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: all recorded my loving Madonna no thing getting put on 144 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: the jaff and guide and putting note on the brook 145 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 1: And so he was saying, man, I'm not gonna wrap 146 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: no woman of about the did I said, wouldn't give me? 147 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: Wanted to? Did this made sure you eat? He said, 148 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: you're right now. The only person which I think we 149 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: really should interview her and put on it because most 150 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: people don't know him is a woman named Pisa. She 151 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: was prosy wife. She married Park when he was in prison. 152 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: She sa, Morny called my office. They'll give his wife 153 00:08:55,400 --> 00:09:00,079 Speaker 1: right from New York. Yeah, she called office and she 154 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: come off and everybody can laughing and then take the message. 155 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: And when you give it to me, so possible you're 156 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: laughing about let said, is a program keep saying you 157 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: toobox life. And you know they got married and he 158 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: would need to help, and they said, you know, I'm crazy. 159 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: And I said, we'll look. Let me talk to him 160 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: because it might be a chance you tause and it's truth, right. 161 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: So I get on the phone with and she said said, 162 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you took my call to everybody become crazy. 163 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 1: I said, I know there was Tony, don't talk to you, 164 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: he said, but we're really mad, or I show you. 165 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: Then Now to the Kate, I can said, he is, 166 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: I can, said you, Dad, I said, don't want to 167 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: do all that. Tell me what you need? I thought 168 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: to my need is some bread, or I'm not gonna 169 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: give it to it. She said, look two o'clock and 170 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: the only person can you help him, it's you. Please 171 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: come seeing for you can get him out of prison. 172 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: So I said, look, I ain't a person alone as 173 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: we speak, I'll call my lawyer and keep permission for 174 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: us to go out to New York. And then those 175 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: things I want to see park I was. I wasn't 176 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: throw it up and I was illegal, you know what 177 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: I mean. That's how I got in with the lorder, 178 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. The first time we went there, 179 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: we had to we flew the private plans from l 180 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: A to New York, and we had to supply a 181 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: smaller plane from New York to the are you had 182 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: to go to the busy by a prison. So we 183 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: had to take a jet because the big plane can 184 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: you know, wouldn't be too big. Then we had to 185 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: take a hour and something lim a V from the 186 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: from the jet, I remember the first time I got there. 187 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: They go seeing how I came out, passes in the head. 188 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,599 Speaker 1: You know you can tell you in stressing. So he 189 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: sat down and talking to these people halfies. I look, 190 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: I feel like the dead. I'm not gonna wrap no 191 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,599 Speaker 1: more while people looking so like slumming my hands on 192 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: the things for hey, look that's how we came up with. 193 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: Then our lives on me, I said, all lives on you, 194 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: and then hope is in you and you's random box. 195 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 1: You're not gonna wrap no more. Not to get that 196 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: boys your head, I said, don't don't do no one 197 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: to do with the vibe fan This person be dispers 198 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: said that for all that bullshit. He said, well, just 199 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: I'll see you all my post. I said, I want 200 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: the post. He said, my mother's you know she don't 201 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: have a place to say. I said the person I'm 202 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: gonna do. Let's work hard on getting you out, secting 203 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: them to do well, I leave your out of here. 204 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call can count up with your mother, and 205 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: I'm gonna buy a house so you don't get a part. 206 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna buy your house, like buyre ocast or ship. 207 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: I said. Then we're gonna work, don't getting you out. 208 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: I looked at the lawyer. I said, hey, I'm gonna 209 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: do everything I can. I hope everything I can act. 210 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: The lawyer couldn't get him out. He said, yeah, he 211 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: said anything. You know, he said anything to you. I said, well, 212 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: there's a slam dunk or because every time we talk 213 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: about cases, I talked about the basketball times. I said 214 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: the slam luck it's no, I said, the lad you 215 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 1: know he says the self shot. I said, we'll check 216 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: this up. When you shoot that tumb side from that range, 217 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: how many times you make him? He saidn't usually I've 218 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: never missed that name. So most of the time over here. 219 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: I looked the podcast, said, well, they mean I'm gonna 220 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: get yourn. We went back to work, and all that 221 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: ship done. Time I got out, I meantime I left there, 222 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: flew back to l A. I boughttom mother bought his 223 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: mother house and huh last pay cash forard, got ship 224 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: off and from his books, gotting straight, kept talking the 225 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: keyshas she was going to visiting, went back out there, 226 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: and David back out there. All his people with mothers 227 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: tunnels come to the visitings of my friends and you 228 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: know they comes to being recorded. You gotta be subing. 229 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: It's the time because they don't win one game out 230 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: And he came back out. He was smiling, you know, 231 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: he walke my George Jefferson. I was trying me like 232 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: he went where to do that? That of walk? He 233 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: was just you know, swinging the shoulders and ship. So 234 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: we'd asked, does that we said, I said, hey, I 235 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: know you had choosing the West coast. I ain't know 236 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: you had to choosing the East coast if I told me, 237 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: And you're talking to big shots. Man, we know me 238 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: for my old boys. He said, Man, they gave you weed. 239 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: They gave me foo, they gave me cosmetics, and he 240 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: gave me the place. Said I got so much weed, 241 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: I'm fired right now. We just thought, right, I said, 242 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: all right, well, Ship, I'm from the team. Now I 243 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: can't I'll be setting you in the free world. I'll 244 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: stopped to get you working on tracks right now. And 245 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: then we started talking. I said, what kind of cards 246 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: you like? He's like this, like this Eddie card. He said, 247 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: like I already had bought for it. And then when 248 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: you know, when I set the product, fans pick him up. 249 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: I sent in my brief base to pull the mother 250 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 1: for the money. And so when you let me running 251 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: committed this three year. The first one did was my 252 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: business of writer. The hooks are are he on it? 253 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: So you know he's smoking, drinking for bab hen until 254 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: he's doing the booth. And he started rapping, and there 255 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: was an incredible ship to When he was wrapping, he said, 256 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: you know, what's your pay? I was like, ships, all right, 257 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: but that ship was bombed and I said it's all 258 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: right because my possitive tell me that football made me 259 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: work hard. I need to start rapping again. I tell 260 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: the engineer, whatever you do, don't race the saving and 261 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: go to another verse, you know, another tape. Don't raise 262 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: Anne of the verses and said, yeah, what's you think? 263 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: I said, a little bets all right, but you know 264 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: that you were losing my mind how he was extrapping 265 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: and flowing. This is gonna take your shirt off. You're drinking, 266 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: he said, her headphones in his Then go hey, fucus plunt, 267 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: somebody bring me a newport. They're bringing a newport. He's 268 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: all right, he told me he's called the reporting and 269 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: he at the new port, took two long drags and 270 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: that motherfucker started doing. He was better than the first 271 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: three bot tasts he did. I said, this, monther Pup's incredible. 272 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: So we finished that song and a whole bunch of 273 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: more ships. So as we at this time to leave, 274 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: you don't smoke, and he drinking the systems. He being 275 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: jails in prison, so you know, and you saw that 276 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: he was talking to me how much funny I had, 277 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: how much he appreciated, and he just passed out in 278 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: my car him for his failed and I started laughing. 279 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: And then you came and heard the spot and put 280 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: you down something. He woke up to their I ain't 281 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: got too high, talk too much, so I put him 282 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: in them on. I got him biggest sweet fun and 283 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: I had seven does the dads pitches in California. I 284 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: tell him that don't try selling his money, don't targe 285 00:15:55,360 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: stilling the jury, getting baths and shiz and ever he want. 286 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: You gotta do everything for him. All yea up and 287 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: get when you get there, we'll take care of them 288 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: all night. In the morning, im up and called me 289 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: the morning, said he will. He said, they already got 290 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: me a rolled up, that's already got me a checked me. 291 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: He said me. He gave me the most beautiful nick 292 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: bitches of being a bill with me, and I never 293 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: felt so good in my life. When we started laughing, 294 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: I said, we're sick. Don't don't don't try, don't bring 295 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: yourself about too much. You know, we're back in the studio. 296 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: He's I can't wait. And that's how we started. You know. 297 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: But Keitha, if they want for her, it never would happen, 298 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: and nobody never gave her a dude, you know. So 299 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: that was an eight minute clip of Sugar Night talking 300 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: to him. Well, guess we're gonna keep that person's identity 301 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: on the on the phone talking from the California Department 302 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: of Corrections to a person whose identity we're not revealing. 303 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: And Reggie brought this clip and it's the first time 304 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: I'm hearing it. James, I'm assuming it's the first time 305 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: you're hearing it too, and read, um, what's so significant 306 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: about this conversa? Was just trying to show how the 307 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: story has always been out there and anybody that follows 308 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: me on Bomb First or any interviews that I've done 309 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: on Black how I always said it wasn't Snoop, it 310 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: wasn't anyone it was Park's wife at the time, Keisha, 311 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: who eventually got on no man from who was the 312 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: one that reached out the show and to have ship 313 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: to go up there. And his intentions originally wasn't to 314 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: go up there to to try to get him out 315 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: of prison. He was just going out to look out 316 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: as a friend and talk to the man who needed 317 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: some money because his record company, Interscope at the time, 318 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: was cut it cut it off, cut right in the 319 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: checks for him, even though he had the number one 320 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: album to come in the country out at the time. 321 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: They was like, hey, your legal bills and all the 322 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: fees and lawsuits and stuff, we can't cut you no 323 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: more money. Shouldn't I stepped up to the plate. Why 324 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: that's Snow trying to say that it was it was him, 325 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: That's my point. That's my point. Niggas can say stuff 326 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: like that because they think she has gone now and 327 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: he can't reach out and he don't have spokespersons out 328 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: here to tell it, and people cloud chasing off a 329 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: Park's name to try to make themselves look cook good. 330 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: Some motherfucking liar. The only thing that I may give 331 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: Snow credit for possibility is Shi might have went to 332 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: him because she'll do does talk like this, and said, Hey, 333 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: I'm about to go see about Pop getting out or 334 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: trying to go visit Pop. What you think about me 335 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: maybe trying to get him other jail? And I can 336 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: see Snoop thing. Yeah, yeah, make it happened off. You know, 337 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: if you can make it happen, make it happen. That's 338 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: the only possibility I'll give it. Well, I know it 339 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: was a lot of jealousy when Tupac came home. I 340 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: mean it came to death Row. And I know a 341 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: lot of those guys man, because if you was number one, 342 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: you number two or number three now because Tupac was 343 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: the ship. You know what I'm saying, Just like Shoot 344 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: said that dude go in the studio and was doing 345 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: it off his head, and and and they and they 346 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: and they tell him and in all the interviews that 347 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: I ever hear them saying, they always said they love 348 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: his work, that th that they learned his worth that 349 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: good from him. Now Snoop saying this recently that he 350 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: has something to do with it or is this a 351 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: story that he's been saying for years. He's been well, 352 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: you haven't heard it before, but lately, he's been on 353 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: the gas. He's been doing songs called and this the 354 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: new song he just wrapped about that that he just 355 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: released in the last week, let Bygones Be Bygones. He 356 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: talks about it in that song. So he's on the gas. 357 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg is trying to be cool with you now. 358 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: But what it's a reason? All right, I'm gonna tell 359 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 1: him now, they got a movie that they don't shot already. 360 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: Who's that Snoop and people affiliated with him. It's been 361 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: a lot of money, a lot of money on this 362 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: movie already, but he and it's not a licensing the 363 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: music to him, and they're not going to license the 364 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: music until they get blessed in from shut And so 365 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: I think that's what his get down there is. And 366 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: I don't they just go to shoog and here he 367 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: goes five million dollars dollars that much. You gotta you 368 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: gotta warm me up, you gotta you gotta grease me 369 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: up before you come to me and talk to me 370 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: like that. I'm not saying that's not gonna eventually happen, 371 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: but you come to me right now and say that 372 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: after you've been dissing me and not fucking I'm working 373 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: on my own ship right now. I'm doing my own movie. 374 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: I got my own people. But the Snoop is is 375 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: taking credit for bringing pop to death row, isn't that 376 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: gonna piss Sugar off and not want to help him 377 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: with the music that he needs for his movie. He 378 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: just did this in the last week. He just probably 379 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: ain't heard about it yet and so he probably haven't 380 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: been able to reach out and talk about it. And 381 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: he don't want to piss Snoop off either, because they 382 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: got some things working, they got some things working. They're 383 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: cool right now. They got some things work, because it 384 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: does matter. So your point is to say, Okay, snoopbody 385 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: here Ryan on shugk Dick now didn't want to be 386 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: cool and saying he did this and did that. Let 387 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: me show y'all that Snoop ain't got a mother fucking 388 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: thing to do with want, so stop it. So that's 389 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: your point Planet, Okay, But just because Snoop is not 390 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: mentioned by Sugar the conversation does not mean Snoop didn't 391 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: have a role in it. I'm not disagreeing with you 392 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: reg what I'm just saying. The phone call don't prove nothing, 393 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: go ahead any credit. The only thing improves is that Snoops, 394 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: I mean Tupac's wife is the one that should have 395 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: got credit for hooking him up. Because if it like 396 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: he should have said it, then if it wasn't for 397 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: his wife, this would have never happened. So that's the 398 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: one who get credit. There's no Snoop, There's no no 399 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: Nate Dog, no Reggie Rights. Nobody can take credit for 400 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: that because his wife hooked it up. According to Sugar, Well, 401 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: Sugar is the main one that that that don't even 402 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 1: know if if Tupac I mean Snoop would have saying 403 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: you need to go get him out of jail, sure 404 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: would have said that we need to get Tupac on line, 405 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: we need to get him out of jail, we need 406 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: to get him down here. Death Bro never had a 407 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: conversation like that. Show. Tupac has nothing, I mean, Snoop 408 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: has nothing like that. You know, I'm just saying sound. 409 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: All I'm saying is you're you're assuming that maybe this 410 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: is just over your head. I got over my head. 411 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: All are assuming everything that was just said in that 412 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: conversation is the truth. But why you have to lie 413 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: about that? I don't know why should lie about anything 414 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: he liked about, you know, I don't know. I'm just 415 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: saying that you're assuming it as a truth. I was 416 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: there and so I know most of the stuff I 417 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: would don't like Snoop. So anything against Snoopop, I just 418 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: like the truth. I just know the real I just 419 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: don't bullshit many of the episodes another one. So if Sugar, 420 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: wait a minute, this this clears everything. So if Sugar 421 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: and Snoop Dogg is doing ship right now, what difference 422 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: does this make? Who run two? Got you? If I 423 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: gotta jail? They passed that they're working together, and now 424 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: Snoop is trying to butter his way in to get 425 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: Ship to say, okay, I need your help on this music, 426 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: to you to release this so we can go on 427 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: and put this movie out. So if they're doing this, 428 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: then I mean that's had. It has no relevance to 429 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: what the Cats is doing. Now. They're working with each other, 430 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 1: with Reggie is saying Snoop need to stop saying some 431 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: false bullshit out there. That's the bottom line. You're already 432 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: sucking with Sugar, y'all doing y'all things, and there's no 433 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: need for you to try to take credit for something 434 00:23:55,480 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: that you haven't done. But today this recording is he 435 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: relevant because who gives a fuck Tupac is gone, so 436 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: it don't matter who got him by to jail. Whoever 437 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: got him by the jail and want to take credit 438 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: for it, and they can take credit for his death. 439 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 1: You didn't say the man like when he was out here, 440 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying on and motherfucker's out of 441 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: here on some bullshit. So man, I wouldn't take credit 442 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: for getting him out. I wouldn't want that. All I'm 443 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: saying is I agree what you read. But what I'm 444 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: saying is this phone call doesn't prove that it's just 445 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: one man telling his version of what happened. That the 446 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: nf CEO telling what's happening. The man that went and 447 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: got him, the one to put the million point five 448 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: up for him to get out. But Snoop don't have 449 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: a track record of being a liar, Like how many 450 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: that's not get down of doing interviews and just blatantly 451 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: sit where you saying nas and then was about the 452 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: whoop on us and and he was snapped just like 453 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: Snoop speaks to whoever the motherfucking audience is and whoever 454 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: he's trying to impres said that time is what he says. 455 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: I can tell you about five different lines that snooped 456 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: and told all right, I want to talk a little 457 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: bit about this call outside of the Snoop issue. I 458 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: found it interesting that that Sugar actually said Poc didn't 459 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: have nothing, and he was already a superstar at this time. 460 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: Why was it that Park had no support? His mama 461 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: was homeless doll ninety nine. PC already had a movie career, 462 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: He already had like two or three albums out. How 463 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: come he had nothing? How much money was getting he 464 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: always said, because of the legal bills and all of that. 465 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: I'll say that, and people that was working for him, 466 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: So from me, I'll say it again. His mama was homeless. 467 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 1: That's all I want to say. What's the guy what's 468 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: the guy name that played in UH and IQ movie Friday? 469 00:25:53,000 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: The pops Um I know you're talking about. He said, 470 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: the first, the first uh, the first Friday. He got 471 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: paid first five thousand dollars, five thousand dollars. You would 472 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: think he was rich after that. But but this is 473 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: all something because we were on the outside looking in 474 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: we don't know how much this guy was getting paid. 475 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: When two when snooping him was when they first came 476 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: and dropped they they they their music. Snoop wouldn't getting paid, Snoop. 477 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: Shoot bought the car for his birthday. He gave it 478 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: to his mama. He didn't have money like that. Those 479 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: guys didn't have no money until what after? What? What? 480 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: What's he needs? Well? Snoop? When then when had his 481 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,239 Speaker 1: own money? Snoop part of um he had already ran 482 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: up a bill of four and a half to five 483 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: million dollars before dropping one album for his legal defense. Okay, 484 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: I was just wondering what was poks financial status. He 485 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: had a lot of legal fees. Um, he had a 486 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: lot on legal situations. And I hate speaking negatively on 487 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 1: Park because he has a lot of fans and they 488 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: get mad when you talk negative. I think broke it 489 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: did show you if you can't bail out of jail, 490 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: if you can't bail out of jail, you just high 491 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: figure like show great point million a half dollar and 492 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: you think you you think this is a millionaire, and 493 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: then you can't bail out of jail on a ten 494 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: million dollar. Now the shows your your your true stats. 495 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: You could argue that Park even at that time, was 496 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: the number one rapper on the plane. Was it just 497 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 1: he had a number one album out in the country. 498 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 1: Couldn't be Bruce breen Stree greatest straightest out, greatest Hits album. 499 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 1: He was number one on the chart timing and then 500 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: they broke. At what point did they start making really 501 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: really start making money? You know what I'm saying, got bad. 502 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: Charlie Wilson, You tell you those stories. Why why did 503 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: you say that Jasmine guy didn't put anything on pox books? 504 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: Because people always saying how you had all the high 505 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: profile friends that were doing that was successful. And Pap 506 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: was saying, how he's gonna live off females and he's 507 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: going to delive up and ship pointed to him was 508 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: what females came through for you? Who came through who 509 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: helped out? No Madonna, he was part of going to jail. 510 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 1: You were saying that, uh a warshow or somewhere with them. 511 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: We got pictures out there where they were writing each 512 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 1: other love letters in prison. I think that love letter 513 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: just wrote so for thirty or forty dollars recently online 514 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: that you know that that they wrote back and forth 515 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: to each other. But did she step up to the plate, 516 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: did she come and pay for it? Did she put 517 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: the me happen just part of the game. Well, at 518 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: that time, Jasmine guy was pretty close to Park Jasmine 519 00:28:53,720 --> 00:29:00,479 Speaker 1: Jada Um, Sally Richards, Janet, Janet, Well Janet and Janet 520 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: After fully Justice, I got to hear the story from 521 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: where he was. They're gonna hook up and they're gonna 522 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: kick it, she said the day. Then the next day 523 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: he tried to call that phone number number was changed, 524 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: that Janet Jackson. But you know he he always said, 525 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: Michael didn't want it. All right, where's Keysha that today? 526 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: The wife that got Noman? That's what chill point was 527 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: in talking about. They said that these are the type 528 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: of person we need to be talking to an interview 529 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: on because this is you're out there listening. You know, 530 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: here's just a successful attorney somewhere now. But yeah, they 531 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: got a Yeah. They said she was a smart young 532 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: lady and so she must have been from the New 533 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: York area because at that time that's what talk was 534 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: based at. I know nothing about it, Like I said, 535 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: I was around it for eleven months and she never 536 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: came around. Um, all right, keeps we gotta we gotta 537 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: find you, We gotta track you down because you're a 538 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: big part of this history. Um. If if what she 539 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: said in this phone call that we just played at 540 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: the beginning of the episode is true, you are the 541 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: reason the call. You are the reason part coming to 542 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: death Row records then and you get say, we're getting 543 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: built out. They thought it was funny when she was calling. Well, 544 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: I don't think they thought it was funny. I think 545 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: they didn't think it was her. You get a lot 546 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: of treats that part, that's the that's the part are 547 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: that you know somebody's calling that Park's trying to reach 548 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: out because she had been trying to get there Frow 549 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: before in ninete and and and Park was like, now 550 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: now I'm cool where I'm at? How cool over there 551 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: in the scope and so all of that probably played 552 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: a part. So what happened to uh Ifannyshakor's house in 553 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: Atlanta that should bought for for her? I think they 554 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: still living, They still have it. They still have that house. Yeah, 555 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: and that's the house. It's not Atlanta, it's the city 556 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: right outside of Atlanta. Yeah, we'll figure look up the 557 00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: city next to Atlanta. The letter D the cat I 558 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: don't want to mess with Atlanta in the house and 559 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: Decatur back and the nineties was probably like less than 560 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: like a four bedroom, five bedroom house, a little bit 561 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: of nothing for a death row at the time. That 562 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,479 Speaker 1: was the flight that we cost. The fly from New 563 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: York out there on the private plane traveling to go 564 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: see Park probably cost more than buying that house. He 565 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: was standing in the Peninsula. He had one of my 566 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: security guards, big psych and Park was in the US 567 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: in the suite. You know, they have bungalows over there. 568 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: I think the hotel bill a day then was three 569 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: to five thousand dollars a day. He stayed in there 570 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: for three months. Now. I had a legal question because 571 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: when Park was incarcerated, he obviously didn't know he can 572 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: get out, and I'm I'm thinking that Sugar's attorney figured 573 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: out a loophole to bail him out on appeal that 574 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,479 Speaker 1: most people can't bail loud on appeal. Yeah, that's um. Well, 575 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: if you have the money, you can. Um you have 576 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,479 Speaker 1: to be willing to put up whatever the amount. Ye, 577 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: it's pretty sometimes automatic, especially on civil and I know 578 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: that about the self civil judgments. But he, like you said, 579 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: he had to have a reason to be appealing the 580 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: case to get out. So this is Kenner made the 581 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: deal happen, but they needed a New York attorney to 582 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: you hear some people that want to shoot down death 583 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: Row and said she never did it, Jimmy, I been 584 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: said on the fighting ones that they don't want to 585 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: put up the money they did. They cut the check, 586 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: but they builded the death row. So ship, I don't care. 587 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: I got a credit card in my pocket right now. 588 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: I just want to buy some gas credit credit. Capital 589 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: one is going to pay for it. They paid it 590 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: up front to these people, but I gotta pay that 591 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: ship back. If not, you know, they're gonna come after 592 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: whatever I want to have or or suit me. So 593 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: you know that's the argument that some people have. I hear, 594 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: I don't know this for a fact that uh Madonna 595 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: attorneys had started some paperwork um to get it the 596 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: process going. Um. But I was always told it was 597 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: David Kenner that made it happen. Well, I guess that 598 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: was some real clever legal work to bail Pock out 599 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: on appeal after he was convicted of with like a 600 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: second re rapera and I feel like I don't know 601 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: how active some of these other documentaries were about his case, 602 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: but it looked like he should have never even been 603 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: in prison. In the first PARSI that the chick gave 604 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: him a blow job on the dance floor in a nightclub. 605 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: He came back home, but what he did had messed up. 606 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: He kind of did what Kobe Bryant did. He kind 607 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: of did with uh well, Mike Tyson. Did he treat 608 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: him like ship after big mistake. You don't treat a 609 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: woman like that after you know you're honestly believe that's 610 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: why the woman did that. For sure. They didn't have 611 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: no man send them to get them. Because she felt 612 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 1: she was in love with Park or not in love. 613 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: She wanted to be with Pop Pop. There was corrupting them. 614 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: Said in the song with the dog Eat style on 615 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: Doggi Style, they passed it to the homie. Once she 616 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: passed them to the homie. Is there a is there 617 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: a chance or a likelihood that the homie raped her 618 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: and that had nothing to do with Park. That's what 619 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: she portrayed. That's how well, that's what she said in 620 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 1: her interview that she gave about a year ago. I 621 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: know you don't follow I didn't follow it, I know, 622 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: but I don't want to watch that one. Okay, I 623 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: can't look at the bed. All right. Um, interesting phone call, 624 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: and I mean I can talk about this for a 625 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 1: whole another thirty minutes, but I want to know about 626 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: james trip to Australia and uh, you went on a 627 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: five city or three city tour? Well we started off 628 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: at five, but we we did three. Um. It was 629 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: a beautiful place, man, it was it was all the 630 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 1: people was nice, had a good time. We have one 631 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: not a bad incident, but we have one lady talking 632 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: crazy in the audience. You know. He told that story 633 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 1: on the last show. Yeah, so it was a good 634 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,240 Speaker 1: thing because none of the other people, I mean everybody 635 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: attacked her and I didn't have to say about that. 636 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: But other than that, man, the beaches, I mean it's 637 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 1: so clean. It's is you know, tell us about the 638 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: weather here. That was like wintertime when you was it 639 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: was wintertime, but the weather was so bum man, it 640 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: was just you just walk out and when we were staying, 641 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: you walk right out the door, make it right, and 642 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: you're right there on the beach. And man, just to 643 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: see the beach and the sunrise come up in the 644 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 1: morning out there, man was beautiful. I said I would 645 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 1: move there. I would move. The people so nice, but 646 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: those people are so strict on other people coming to 647 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: their country, to coming out there, as if you're gonna 648 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: change it. They like everything the way it is. You 649 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: don't see no crime. Man. It was one of the 650 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: guys Melachar got a ticket for two hundred and sixties 651 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,280 Speaker 1: six bucks for thumping a cigarette butt on the ground. 652 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: This is where they're not playing. Our city is gonna 653 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: stay clean, and you're gonna pay for it if you 654 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,760 Speaker 1: dirty it out. I heard my son this came from Japan, 655 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: and he told me they don't even have public trash 656 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: cans out there. He said. People were walking around with 657 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: like little trash bags. The throw of their trash. Well 658 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 1: they had they had this little just a little truck 659 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: come dumped the trash. Thirty minutes later, here come another one, 660 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: so they own it they. I mean, it's so beautiful, man, 661 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,439 Speaker 1: watching these women exercise early in the morning. Every guy 662 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: you see out there, it got on the tight shirt. 663 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: It makes you feel bad and no really, it makes 664 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: you feel like you you you're just using your body 665 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,439 Speaker 1: in a bad way, because everybody is so fit, even 666 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: the older people. You're not a lot of obesity at 667 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: all at all. And and their food is totally different 668 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: from ours. And and the only thing I see them 669 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 1: doing it, The only way I see them killing themselves 670 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: is the way they drink. That's it. But other than that, 671 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: I mean, but you got older women sitting there at 672 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: the bars while they're eating, taking shots. But they're probably 673 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: so healthy and other aspects of their life they could 674 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: afford alcohol. You know. I doubt if they even uh 675 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 1: know what diabetes is down there. I doubt it, I 676 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:55,320 Speaker 1: really do. You didn't you never seen the police um 677 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: sirens and the police that we've seen didn't have a gun. 678 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 1: But when we went to the club, they had. They 679 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: had pistols on them. All of these guys that I 680 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 1: was hanging in and I met at the bars. We 681 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: don't carry guys. We know. I never had a gun 682 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: to day in my life. I never had one of 683 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: my hands. It's like, what right now? Did you know 684 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying? That's what I'm telling them, But it, man, 685 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: I learned a lot just by being there. You know. 686 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: We take what we have here. I mean, we take 687 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: like for granted, just saying how those people live and 688 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 1: how those people get along with each other and they 689 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 1: coincide with each other. Everything is so good, you know 690 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Whether they go to the little casino 691 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 1: and gamble, you lose your money and I'm gonna go in, 692 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: they come out, they're fucking in. Put it in the machine. 693 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: You ain't gonna see that out here. Well, they do 694 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: got a history of extreme racisms against the Aboriginal people. 695 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 1: We don't want to give them a pass of being 696 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 1: like some utopian society. No, I'm just saying from what 697 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 1: from my perspective, what I've seen, they're good. Have you 698 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,919 Speaker 1: seen any Aboriginals when you were there those guys when 699 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: we went down to where the some Morns and all 700 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 1: of them at and they call it the Lord Bottom 701 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,800 Speaker 1: or whatever. Man, you should see how the people interact 702 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: with each other. And they's like stay today's self. You 703 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We had this just just one 704 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 1: lady was walking by. I don't know this dude. He 705 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,399 Speaker 1: looked at purple and he was exchanging his money because 706 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: he was leaving, and she, oh good, he's out of here. 707 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 1: They're leaving. They knew they're changing their money and they 708 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: must get about it here. So this is everybody stays 709 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: to theirselves and do them and they know you you dirty. 710 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 1: You tell me when they called him the N word 711 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: out there, when one lady called him the N word, 712 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: but she said, everybody else said they had deal with her, 713 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: they had discipline her, and they took offense to it. 714 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: They took offence to it. And everybody in that audience 715 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: was like, what the she just say? And then I 716 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 1: walked out, I dropped, I set the mic down, and 717 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: I'm and I'm like, oh my god, what how do 718 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,399 Speaker 1: I react to this? So when I turned my back, 719 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 1: I'm really trying to like, man, dude, dude, you know 720 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be just cat coming from Constance. Do 721 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: I just attacked this female? So when I turned my 722 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: back and I hear all the people, I said, let 723 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: me let this play out. But guess what. She laid 724 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: down and had two kids with a black man. Now 725 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 1: now she got four black kids by by African dude. 726 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 1: She tried to stay their case, tell her whole story. 727 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 1: I go outside and I'm smoking a cigarette because I 728 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: just ran around the whole building from her. She chased me. 729 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, exactly. So the whole time I'm sitting out 730 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: here smoking a cigarette, here comes to these women. These 731 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: women was like, no, I'm evenna put her ass out 732 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: of here, and we don't treat our guests like that. Man, 733 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: Australia is lovely. So the woman is telling me and 734 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: and telling me, like where you know what? You want 735 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 1: to go to my room? You just call me a nigger. 736 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. She said, no, it ain't. 737 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 1: She said, told her son, my nigga, come here, Come here, 738 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: my nigga, and everybody looked. Everybody looked at her. Everybody 739 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 1: looked at her and was like she is tripping. But 740 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: she had a lot of drinks. She had a lot 741 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 1: to drink. And they toss him. I'm sitting there with 742 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: two cats and they want to take a picture and 743 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,280 Speaker 1: they asked me to have a drink win him. I said, okay. 744 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: They started taking off their shoelesser, what's this this? Uh 745 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: damn a bootlegs, a boot front or whatever whatever? It was? 746 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: My bad food forgetting the name of it. They pulled 747 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: the beer in their shoe and start drinking it. So 748 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 1: they think, I don't know, man, I've been walking too long. 749 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: And need shops. I'm not being to drink shop. I 750 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 1: ain't doing it. So but anybody lady soon wind up 751 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: telling her, come on, it's time to go. You're tripping. 752 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: So and it was his birthday and she brung in 753 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 1: for for his birthday to see the show and then 754 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: she got drunk in act before. But she trying to 755 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 1: get me in my room to go to my room. 756 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,799 Speaker 1: I don't think she press. So, who's fault is it 757 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 1: for saying my nigga? Quote unquote you're just about to 758 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 1: say who's fault that? Rappers? Ok? Yeah, I don't say 759 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,839 Speaker 1: no all of them know, just goes back to yeah, 760 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: I call your niggas and my nigga all the time. 761 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 1: Eminem in proof of them, the people that was hanging 762 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 1: around him when they when when they allowed when they 763 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:56,720 Speaker 1: allowed eminem eminem however, he says name when they allowed 764 00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,399 Speaker 1: him to use the words. So now for people say, 765 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,240 Speaker 1: because I'm cool with black folks or the black guys, 766 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,879 Speaker 1: I'm cool, so I can say that one she called 767 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 1: her son. She called her son on one rapper culture 768 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,919 Speaker 1: hip hop has used that word very loosely. They never 769 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 1: lose it when trying to be cool. They used that word. 770 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,320 Speaker 1: She was saying that we're in a term of endearment 771 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 1: because they started that allow him that, yeah, she had 772 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,800 Speaker 1: her hands. She's called her son that you're a cop 773 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: and you she loved her son. Well it's a point 774 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: of respect. I don't care what it is because she's 775 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: been doing it and don't dispect no big old black 776 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 1: niggah up here. I can say she had babies. She 777 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:53,399 Speaker 1: ain't got not prejudiced. You don't do that. Didn't know 778 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: what she was doing. All right. So while he was 779 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 1: on this tour in Australia, you were, you were doing 780 00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 1: the tour with Greg Hating, former l ap D officer, 781 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 1: big investigator. How was that? How did that go? It 782 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,360 Speaker 1: went real good, man, It went real good. You know, 783 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 1: he did his show, He did his thing, and then 784 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 1: I came in on people asking the questions and it 785 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 1: was basically part of my life. A lot of things 786 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:23,720 Speaker 1: they've seen him blad. They asked questions about that, um 787 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 1: and you know, I tell everybody, it ain't too much 788 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,320 Speaker 1: of Tupac that I dealt with. You know what I'm saying. 789 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 1: I wasn't part of they clicked. I wouldn't. My brother 790 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 1: did his name with with with Tupac. Now that that 791 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 1: wasn't my whole get down, And and all of the 792 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: questions that people asked was basically, you know me and 793 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: shug Uh, why didn't I like Tupac? Now, I never 794 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 1: had a problem with Tupac, but I just didn't believe 795 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 1: Tupac come in and just saying he from my hood, 796 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: he from the mob. No, it don't work like that. 797 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 1: Tupac just came jump. I don't care how much money 798 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 1: you got. I lived and banging for this ship. I 799 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: just heard tray von On on first Saide Park was 800 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 1: a damn mob part rule didn He said something along 801 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 1: those lines. And to james point is number one, you 802 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 1: don't think trade is in the position to put him on. 803 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 1: But number two he said in Jameson said Bunchy and 804 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 1: and and and neck Ball did so he had to 805 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,360 Speaker 1: respect that. But he said because they were o gs 806 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 1: and people that that uh paved that way. But he 807 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 1: just said as his opinion and and with his status, 808 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,800 Speaker 1: he would not allow with it. And I understand what 809 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,360 Speaker 1: you a'm saying on that part. I understand both sides. 810 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 1: I understand. And that's what Jay said. He never got 811 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 1: in the car and did bust a great for them 812 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 1: him showed, you know, but the other four would be 813 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,279 Speaker 1: I didn't find that a lot of ships going on 814 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,320 Speaker 1: over here, you know, Like you said with that you 815 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 1: would from Okay, how people have done things other than 816 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 1: jumped in the car. I agree that you don't have 817 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 1: to bust. You don't have to shoot people up to 818 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 1: earn your reputation in the hood. But grow up there 819 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 1: and be there when you were thirteen, fourteen, fifteen Park neighborhood, 820 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 1: living in the neighborhood, and that game banging, it's called 821 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 1: guilty by association. That's all that because well, you know 822 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 1: from the neighborhood, so everybody's gonna assume you from there anyway. 823 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 1: That's totally different from coming. And then this guy passed 824 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 1: and you see these cats with Tupac tattoos. No, y'all 825 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 1: got like funked up. That's wrong. Okay, what about all 826 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,279 Speaker 1: of the all of your homies that you've been knowing 827 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 1: for thirty years that's passed and you ain't put a 828 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: mark on your body for now one, So you're telling 829 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 1: me a different story. You can get to know Tupac 830 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 1: for ten months and and and say this is the 831 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 1: O G. No, you're not know O G from I 832 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 1: think money could buy you into almost any Hood's changed 833 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 1: a lot of the homies. You've got a lot of 834 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 1: talent in every hood. In every hood, somebody come out 835 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,319 Speaker 1: of there and make it that person start looking out 836 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,400 Speaker 1: for the homies. Once you start looking out for the homies, 837 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 1: it's hard. It's just stop looking out for the homies. 838 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 1: And every story ends up the same way because we've 839 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 1: got people like that. Little Wayne claims the mob. What's 840 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 1: your opinion about Little Wayne? And when when she started 841 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 1: that act ship without said we at never seen this 842 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 1: little nigga. Good credit to ship for a little Wayne. Uh, 843 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:49,240 Speaker 1: we have to get out the term. Okay, I understanding 844 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 1: when he came to the wolf is in that bush 845 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,399 Speaker 1: him and and and all them cats from from down 846 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 1: when it was at in that big bush smoking them 847 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 1: hug But you ain't from the mob. Okay, Well, po 848 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 1: do you you know Pooch? We can say, I can 849 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,320 Speaker 1: say I could throw a whole bunch of names the 850 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,800 Speaker 1: people that that didn't grow up with. This is what 851 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 1: these guys just doing that that don't have to you 852 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 1: see Nick Cannon. Nick Cannon ain't no blood not that 853 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,320 Speaker 1: I know. Why do you have to live like that? 854 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 1: You don't even want that title? This is my thing 855 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:32,240 Speaker 1: to them guys. The same thing with with Chris Brown. 856 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 1: You don't even want that title. Why would you want 857 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,759 Speaker 1: to fit in and be a part of that. That's 858 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,400 Speaker 1: not how you living. But on the other hand, employing 859 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,400 Speaker 1: about five dudes that wouldn't normally have jobs that that 860 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 1: that that's eaten good off of them, Big Dave and 861 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 1: Duck and all of that were even good because of 862 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 1: their relationship in their association with and that's cool, and 863 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,439 Speaker 1: that's cool, and there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing 864 00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 1: wrong with that. I just say I would are different, 865 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,440 Speaker 1: it would be done, and I wouldn't look out for 866 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 1: those guys. I would employ those guys with something that 867 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,440 Speaker 1: they're good at and give them a business and be 868 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 1: a third owner, be a part owner to it. You 869 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Ip post to being subject to 870 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 1: all of this, or you ain't from the hood. Now 871 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,320 Speaker 1: you got to prove that you're from the hood with 872 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 1: a cat that's mad and everybody give me you more 873 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,920 Speaker 1: cloud than than you're getting. But you the killer. But 874 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 1: that's usually the ones that's on the outside that that 875 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 1: got a problem. But that's if you're supposed to have 876 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 1: a problem. That that's where the problem comes from. You 877 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: are my hood repping, and and just because you're taking 878 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,759 Speaker 1: care of homies, you ain't putting it down like we do. 879 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 1: We let this every day. Man, five dudes from from 880 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 1: from their it could be thirty. Yeah you can be 881 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 1: put on, Yeah you can be put on. You could 882 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 1: be put on anyway. So I came by my way in. However, 883 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,839 Speaker 1: get you basically that's what you're doing, buying your way 884 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:02,719 Speaker 1: in pretty much because you ain't started from scratch, you 885 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So if if, if, if it's 886 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 1: gainst by nature not by choice, whether you fit in 887 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,200 Speaker 1: at you don't fit in because this is two thousand 888 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:18,279 Speaker 1: and nineteen. Don't come in here and and at two 889 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,480 Speaker 1: thousand and seventeen to say you're a game banger. You're not. 890 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 1: You feel me, you're not. You got these women coming 891 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,840 Speaker 1: up here talking about their game bankers. You know what 892 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,719 Speaker 1: I did to game banging broads. I treated them just 893 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 1: like niggas, just like niggas. But if you want to 894 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,800 Speaker 1: sit here and wear raging flagging in my face, you 895 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 1: got me fucked up. I kill you like I do 896 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 1: one of them dudes. I treat you like I treat 897 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 1: the nigger and that, and that's that's her fault, because 898 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 1: you're putting yourself in a situation that you don't belong in. 899 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 1: You don't belong in this world. Find them line. And 900 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,439 Speaker 1: those guys just making money, man, never make your money 901 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 1: to do something right with it. Chris Brown, you're listening. 902 00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,080 Speaker 1: I'm talking about all of them. All those guys just 903 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,279 Speaker 1: want to be thug niggas and ain't thug niggas, and 904 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 1: and and and ain't ready to to stand up to 905 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 1: that goddamned first chest when the big homie come at 906 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 1: you and say I won't woot the woof when you 907 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 1: ain't ready to give it, they're gonna bust your ass. Now. 908 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 1: They didn't put you out. I should have the right 909 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,839 Speaker 1: niggas around me taking care of me to say, hey, 910 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,920 Speaker 1: I got a calm James down, dog you need to 911 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,960 Speaker 1: deal with Somebody got to talk to him. Somebody got 912 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:27,360 Speaker 1: to talk to him. You got one of them in 913 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:31,239 Speaker 1: every hood, every hood, if if, if, if you stop 914 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 1: what you're doing for me. You shouldn't have put me 915 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,840 Speaker 1: out there like that you shouldn't made me feel like, Okay, 916 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 1: I'm ship, I'm good. Now you're gonna tell me you're done, 917 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,440 Speaker 1: you ain't. I can't look out for you no more. 918 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 1: Get your bit ass out of here. And that's how 919 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 1: it goes. And that's what they do because they're not 920 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 1: getting it and they're not shining like that no more. 921 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,240 Speaker 1: So I tell all of these cats, if you ain't 922 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 1: trying to trying to put yourself in a A, I 923 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,800 Speaker 1: ain't gonna even use Nipsey in a tuparc and a 924 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,920 Speaker 1: and a bunch ofy and hand run and all of 925 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,840 Speaker 1: these other cats situations. Man, you don't have to be 926 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 1: from a gang. You don't have to be from a 927 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 1: game to be a man. Year old James Versus year 928 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:20,400 Speaker 1: old years old learned from history, pay attention to what 929 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,959 Speaker 1: happens with other cats, such as yourself in the same 930 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 1: position you in that's making money. You don't got out 931 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,400 Speaker 1: the hood, but then you come back with everything that 932 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,320 Speaker 1: you would you made, and then now you gotta splurt 933 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,360 Speaker 1: it Like mc hammer, he's taking care of all of 934 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,719 Speaker 1: these people. And at the end of the day when 935 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 1: he was broke, how many of them are still there? 936 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,239 Speaker 1: Ain't that many there, Ain't that many left. Ain't that 937 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:51,359 Speaker 1: many there successes of motherfucker, you gotta get you're gonna 938 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,879 Speaker 1: keep it. You gotta stay away, you gotta stay away. 939 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,400 Speaker 1: Ain't nothing wrong with getting out the neighborhood man, and 940 00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with it. This is why I'm where I'm 941 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 1: at right now today, because I understand that now I 942 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,920 Speaker 1: don't have to be violent to be somebody. But I 943 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 1: think I think it's also a business move for guys, artists, rappers, 944 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 1: singers to take on a gang identity because they're trying 945 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 1: to get street cred. They're trying to get They understand 946 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:18,239 Speaker 1: that fans buy records from people like fifty who get 947 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,480 Speaker 1: shot nine times, you can come back. And I think 948 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,920 Speaker 1: it's a protection move all day. It's hard going into 949 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,879 Speaker 1: you going to an other clubs, other towns with other 950 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:30,920 Speaker 1: I mean, because there's gangsters, and every town in New 951 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 1: Orleans got their niggas. You don't want to Detroit everywhere. 952 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,880 Speaker 1: But if I'm bringing Ale Reptable like James with me 953 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 1: and and and the Neckbone and Bunty and all of them, 954 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,839 Speaker 1: and I'm coming walking in there, don't niggas fot real 955 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,400 Speaker 1: recognized real, and they spot each other and they know 956 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,040 Speaker 1: how to talk to each other. You look at it, 957 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 1: it stays that I say that, it's kind of weird. 958 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,520 Speaker 1: What what James or Bunty will say. They'd be like, 959 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,440 Speaker 1: oh okay, those are real niggas, and I think they 960 00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,880 Speaker 1: get accepted a little more. And I think that's why 961 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,759 Speaker 1: do it? Well, when you see real, recognized real, you 962 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 1: ain't so quick to approach that. You gotta. You gotta 963 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,880 Speaker 1: come with a different way on getting this cat and 964 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,480 Speaker 1: not just walking up to him and slapping it. Now 965 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,960 Speaker 1: we got altercation because this nig are gonna pipe back. 966 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,680 Speaker 1: We know that, so now we're gonna have to catch 967 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 1: him outside when he opened his mouth, just pill his 968 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,239 Speaker 1: cat and do what you do. It's totally different. You gotta. 969 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 1: It is a certain way to deal with every cat 970 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,520 Speaker 1: out here. Ain't no one hell of a nigga and 971 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 1: he running the whole planet. It just don't work like that. 972 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,759 Speaker 1: You ain't the badest cat. You're gonna run into a 973 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,239 Speaker 1: cat that got hands and and gonna get you. So 974 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,800 Speaker 1: just amount of time. But those dudes don't have to 975 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,839 Speaker 1: do that. Those dudes are making money. If you want 976 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,279 Speaker 1: to put money, who said you can't put money back 977 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,719 Speaker 1: in the neighborhood. Who said you gotta be a part 978 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 1: of the hood to clean up the hood. You don't 979 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:57,080 Speaker 1: have to do that. So those excuses and then us 980 00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,480 Speaker 1: as black man, when we get out, look what we're doing. 981 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,960 Speaker 1: We they're sucking up. We are They're going to these 982 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:06,480 Speaker 1: these pretty as places getting charged for touching fucking females. 983 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,839 Speaker 1: You dudes are are man. I'm keeping one hunting man. 984 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 1: I had motherfucking sending my motherfucking left and buying me 985 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 1: three drinks at the time. Wait a minute, hold up, 986 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:23,759 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm married, And it was it was, it 987 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,759 Speaker 1: was damn saying. You know what I'm saying, You don't 988 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,480 Speaker 1: just because who you are, you don't have to touch 989 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,520 Speaker 1: a woman like that. You don't have to be a 990 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 1: disrespectable ass cat. But we we we take advantage of 991 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,000 Speaker 1: it and we funk up. Now the money going down, 992 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,440 Speaker 1: everything going down. You're back in the neighborhood. But you 993 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,919 Speaker 1: you can't come back to the neighborhood because you ain't 994 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 1: got no money. You can't help nobody. You're done. So 995 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,760 Speaker 1: these these man we gotta wake up. We we truly 996 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,600 Speaker 1: gotta wake up. I seen some beautiful ship out there. Man, 997 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,279 Speaker 1: the most peaceful is people I've ever seen in my life. 998 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,680 Speaker 1: And it just said, man, I gotta step my game up. 999 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,279 Speaker 1: Australia is beautiful. Well, I think you were getting the 1000 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:10,920 Speaker 1: celebrity treatment because your history. So I don't want everyone 1001 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 1: who's listening to the average brother think, Hey, I'm gonna 1002 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 1: go to Australia and get treated the way. Guarantee you 1003 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,279 Speaker 1: if you just go out there, you ain't gotta be 1004 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 1: uh doing those shows and nothing. Go sit at the 1005 00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,839 Speaker 1: bar and see how do people come at you, come 1006 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:32,120 Speaker 1: and talk to you and sit there. Where are you from? Matekay? 1007 00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,080 Speaker 1: Let's you start messing around with their women and you 1008 00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,240 Speaker 1: just some regular dude visiting from the United States of America. 1009 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,680 Speaker 1: You know, You've got a lot of people that come 1010 00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,120 Speaker 1: from America and still down there, especially the military guys 1011 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,279 Speaker 1: come down there. They stay down there and they hook 1012 00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 1: up and and they meet a woman and they live 1013 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,759 Speaker 1: in their life out there. I'm just saying, man, it's 1014 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 1: just the way we treat ourselves. We don't have to 1015 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 1: be the way we are the United Stage, California, l A, whatever. 1016 00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,440 Speaker 1: We don't have to be like that. I think not 1017 00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,560 Speaker 1: having guns in a society like that is one of 1018 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:11,640 Speaker 1: the main things that makes it more appealing. Ball my 1019 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,280 Speaker 1: fish and we fight, mate, and we go home sabble, 1020 00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,000 Speaker 1: and that's a beautiful thing. Man. We don't squabble in America. Man. 1021 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,800 Speaker 1: Just just imagine nine cats get out of the car 1022 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,240 Speaker 1: just to fight three cats that's standing there on the corner. 1023 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 1: I guarantee you you ain't gonna get that many fights 1024 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 1: because all these cats ain't good. From here. It's easy 1025 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,600 Speaker 1: to shoot somebody, man, It's not hard to shoot nobody. 1026 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,080 Speaker 1: And once you pull the trigger at one time, you're 1027 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,919 Speaker 1: gonna keep popping. You're gonna keep popping because the ship 1028 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,520 Speaker 1: feel Does it feel good? You know what I'm saying. 1029 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,560 Speaker 1: But just to get out and just just throw hands 1030 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 1: and then okay and get back in the car. No, no, man, 1031 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,640 Speaker 1: we really got to pay attention to the way we live. 1032 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,919 Speaker 1: And and see, man, I should is short. We sell 1033 00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,800 Speaker 1: it not short. I said short. Every day the way 1034 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,640 Speaker 1: we live out here, the way we live period. They 1035 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,320 Speaker 1: drinking the alcohol out of the Your shoe is called 1036 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:11,600 Speaker 1: a shoe a shoey. I couldn't do it. Yeah, I 1037 00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,000 Speaker 1: hadn't been, idn't been up. But I thought you ended 1038 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,040 Speaker 1: up doing it. No, you didn't do it at all. 1039 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,640 Speaker 1: Don't know. I ain't drinking. He supposed to participate in 1040 00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,000 Speaker 1: all that. I didn't participate. I took that beer and 1041 00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,439 Speaker 1: drinking that. They kicked his ass on that he's spit 1042 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,439 Speaker 1: in half in the cup and he had to spit 1043 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 1: that out and they were like, and they finished it. 1044 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,440 Speaker 1: I got that on video time. I don't know what 1045 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:37,200 Speaker 1: are you talking about. Stopped drinking. Go to Nick None's 1046 00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,160 Speaker 1: Instagram and you'all can see it. Drin drink. Couldn't drink 1047 00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,280 Speaker 1: with the boys. James can't drink with the boys. He 1048 00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,000 Speaker 1: embarrassed us over there a lot of these countries. I'll 1049 00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:50,560 Speaker 1: drink you, you know, the England, Ireland, austral Then out drink. 1050 00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:55,000 Speaker 1: I went to this one guy slick house, drink, Bring God, 1051 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,400 Speaker 1: bring mom. James over to us. Man, come on, let's 1052 00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,440 Speaker 1: have a shot and we can we can. Wouldn't do 1053 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:05,240 Speaker 1: God got nice, nice little shut up. He got two 1054 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 1: different types of liquor, but they dark. I didn't want 1055 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:14,520 Speaker 1: to say no, I don't drink dark liquor. He got 1056 00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:18,200 Speaker 1: this monkey sitting on his table with his uh. He 1057 00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,560 Speaker 1: puts his joint in his mouth and let him do 1058 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:25,800 Speaker 1: his thing and it blows whatever. I don't know, James, 1059 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:30,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. And then we take another shot. We 1060 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 1: leave from there and go somewhere else. Here we are, 1061 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,800 Speaker 1: we taking another shot, and then we get you, my boy, 1062 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,960 Speaker 1: what we did this this this interview. There he got 1063 00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 1: like nine women, not women are in his house. I'm 1064 00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,840 Speaker 1: walking up the sidewalk. This is to a married man, 1065 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,400 Speaker 1: exactly exactly they were. They were young women. The young women. 1066 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,960 Speaker 1: I'm that guy that don't do I'm fifty four. I 1067 00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:00,600 Speaker 1: don't do nothing under forty. You out to be old, 1068 01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,720 Speaker 1: old enough to deal with it. I don't do chilling. 1069 01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,960 Speaker 1: So I'm walking up just his driveway. The dude got 1070 01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,640 Speaker 1: the gym the whole nights. So I said, this dude 1071 01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:16,120 Speaker 1: better be buffed with all of this exercise equipment in there. 1072 01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:20,120 Speaker 1: You got a tennis lion in his garage. So I 1073 01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,919 Speaker 1: go in there. I've seen may nice chunky Chucky cat 1074 01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,680 Speaker 1: said he came from one of the little islands out 1075 01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:30,880 Speaker 1: there and and made his way there. No selling, no drugs, 1076 01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:34,360 Speaker 1: no nothing. So he got all of these different little 1077 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,280 Speaker 1: businesses in these houses set up with with all of 1078 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,080 Speaker 1: these women that do interviews with people. What type of 1079 01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:41,760 Speaker 1: drugs they have over there? I don't know what I 1080 01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,880 Speaker 1: ain't saying, but it was one of those. One little 1081 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,120 Speaker 1: cat at the club was like you got some some 1082 01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 1: type of ship. And then the girl that was with us, 1083 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:54,320 Speaker 1: she was like, may now you get out here enough 1084 01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,600 Speaker 1: here know somewhere else. With that, he turned around and 1085 01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 1: went upstairs. You know, we didn't be and like what 1086 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,680 Speaker 1: you're talking to He just went up the stairs. Right. 1087 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:08,160 Speaker 1: They're just so cool. So what basically what I'm saying 1088 01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,680 Speaker 1: is is we don't have to live the way we 1089 01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:14,480 Speaker 1: live in But I mean, I guess is we customed 1090 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,640 Speaker 1: to it the way we are and everybody good with that. 1091 01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,760 Speaker 1: But just go just go out there and see it. 1092 01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:24,520 Speaker 1: You you'll come home thinking totally different, especially about your 1093 01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,280 Speaker 1: life and the ship you put in your body. Well, 1094 01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,400 Speaker 1: it sounds like you had an amazing time in Australia. 1095 01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,920 Speaker 1: Hopefully the next time you go, all of us can 1096 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:37,360 Speaker 1: go like a tensity tour. I've never been Australia, but 1097 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,400 Speaker 1: I definitely want to go. But let's get into a 1098 01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:43,880 Speaker 1: couple of questions before we wrap up this episode of 1099 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,040 Speaker 1: The Gangster Chronicles. The first one I want to ask 1100 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,680 Speaker 1: is I guess I guess Reggie, you might know this. 1101 01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,520 Speaker 1: Uh oh. Someone actually says they remember you mentioning this 1102 01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:56,800 Speaker 1: on bomb First, that Shook shot himself by accident at 1103 01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:00,280 Speaker 1: the Kanye West after party and they were a little 1104 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,000 Speaker 1: confused on what actually happened based on what you said 1105 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:06,840 Speaker 1: on Bomb First. I said it was that was investigated 1106 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:11,160 Speaker 1: and that was my opinion. But Shook sue Kanye West. Um, 1107 01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:16,920 Speaker 1: but there's people out there now from um Jimmy Henchman 1108 01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:21,320 Speaker 1: camp that's uh taking credit for it. Okay, So, Um, 1109 01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:26,360 Speaker 1: he didn't shoot himself on accident. It was investigated. It's 1110 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:31,200 Speaker 1: still my opinion, um, because I know some investigations going 1111 01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:35,480 Speaker 1: down while he's on proovalation and the way the the 1112 01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 1: gunshot appeared to be going down. But he sued Kanye West, 1113 01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:45,439 Speaker 1: sending someone that is out too roch and recently someone 1114 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,640 Speaker 1: from Jimmy Henchman UM camp came out saying he was 1115 01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,160 Speaker 1: the one that did it. And so there's two theories 1116 01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,720 Speaker 1: on that he he shot himself or someone Jimmy Henchman 1117 01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:58,200 Speaker 1: did it, or someone from Kanye West camp was Jimmy 1118 01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,800 Speaker 1: Henchman connected to Kanye's camp. Okay, so three theories. Jimmy 1119 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,360 Speaker 1: Henchman one of Kanye's people, or he did it himself 1120 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:06,720 Speaker 1: and you believe he did it himself? Why is that 1121 01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,800 Speaker 1: just the way? Uh? In the pants and and his 1122 01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,760 Speaker 1: parooser was really on it. They almost violated on it. 1123 01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:17,040 Speaker 1: And he had a go through some some legal troubles 1124 01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:20,520 Speaker 1: that I know behind the scenes too to prove and 1125 01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,280 Speaker 1: they just they just went on and dropped it and 1126 01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:27,160 Speaker 1: nothing at all and suld sue Kanye. What came about 1127 01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:31,400 Speaker 1: that lawsuit? Was there a settlement or I think this 1128 01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:34,280 Speaker 1: got dropped all right? That question came from a swim 1129 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:40,080 Speaker 1: Factor on Twitter. I appreciate that. Um James, when you 1130 01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:43,360 Speaker 1: walked away from my part, aru, did you ever feel 1131 01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:45,560 Speaker 1: that your life was in danger? That's a question that 1132 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,240 Speaker 1: came in on Instagram. Did I ever feel like my 1133 01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:52,880 Speaker 1: life after you walked away? I know you probably while 1134 01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:54,919 Speaker 1: he was living my party, your life was in danger 1135 01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,560 Speaker 1: every day life your your Yeah, your life is in 1136 01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,560 Speaker 1: danger every day. But the question was really really from 1137 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,000 Speaker 1: your own homies like lead the Hood, not at all, 1138 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:09,560 Speaker 1: not at all. Uh No, when I when I left 1139 01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,440 Speaker 1: and decided to that that this one for me and 1140 01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:17,280 Speaker 1: and I'm living a whole lot. No, I walked away. 1141 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:21,000 Speaker 1: I said I'm done, And I honestly believe that if 1142 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:25,600 Speaker 1: I'm done, no more throwing up the size, no more 1143 01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:30,280 Speaker 1: saying blood, no more, none of that. So I put 1144 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,520 Speaker 1: all of that to the side, and we'll just walked 1145 01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,600 Speaker 1: away and just y'all leave me alone. I leave y'all alone. 1146 01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:39,680 Speaker 1: I'm cool. I think that's important because there's this Hollywood theory. 1147 01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:43,240 Speaker 1: Law enforcements also believes this that once you're in the gang, 1148 01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:48,080 Speaker 1: you can never get out. A long time ago, they 1149 01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,280 Speaker 1: have they have shipped like that, and I believe the 1150 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:54,240 Speaker 1: Messicans that's one of they, Uh, who's going to this 1151 01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:58,760 Speaker 1: when when you get jumped in, either you get jumped 1152 01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:02,520 Speaker 1: out of you get killed. Some of my things, so 1153 01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:04,920 Speaker 1: you can look that up. And I don't believe that happens. 1154 01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,320 Speaker 1: A long time ago. A long time ago, that was 1155 01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,760 Speaker 1: one of the that was one of the rules. But no, 1156 01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I walked away and and a 1157 01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:16,080 Speaker 1: lot of cats walk away or disappear or what have you. 1158 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:20,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, everybody ain't cut for it, you 1159 01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,400 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I think when when your 1160 01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,360 Speaker 1: time is up, your time is up. You don't have 1161 01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,280 Speaker 1: to die to get out the game. I wouldn't fin 1162 01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:31,200 Speaker 1: the die to get out. So basically to me, if 1163 01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:33,840 Speaker 1: you try to kill me, you better do it right 1164 01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:37,919 Speaker 1: the first time, because if you shoot me and don't 1165 01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,400 Speaker 1: what's going on, then I I don't have a choice 1166 01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,040 Speaker 1: but to come. Look at you. You were just over 1167 01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:43,880 Speaker 1: there in the hood with James about two weeks ago. 1168 01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:45,400 Speaker 1: How did you feel when you was with you? Oh? 1169 01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,360 Speaker 1: I felt I felt great and that I thought that 1170 01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,280 Speaker 1: was a great example of you walked away from the hood, 1171 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,400 Speaker 1: But you're welcome to come back and talk to time. 1172 01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,000 Speaker 1: You want to come and go back over there and 1173 01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:58,200 Speaker 1: I go kick it and shit down dominoes whatever if 1174 01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,160 Speaker 1: I well, I used to go over there to sho 1175 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,560 Speaker 1: down and have a drink. Uh. Where we was at 1176 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:07,160 Speaker 1: over there, Mom's just just that's my baby, you know 1177 01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,439 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I just pull up and go see 1178 01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:14,280 Speaker 1: her or go around the corner. And you even saw 1179 01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,600 Speaker 1: him at his mother funeral and you've seen a little 1180 01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:20,600 Speaker 1: that was given there. Absolutely well, I mean all of them, 1181 01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,280 Speaker 1: all of those cats was there from the neighborhood and 1182 01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:29,520 Speaker 1: my mom's funeral. Yeah, and uh and uh that's that way, 1183 01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:34,400 Speaker 1: I'm scared and uh, I'm just you know, I'm just 1184 01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,120 Speaker 1: maybe like funerals. Because we also revealed on the previous 1185 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,439 Speaker 1: episode of The Gangster Chronicles you didn't go to bunt 1186 01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,200 Speaker 1: of his funeral, which if you guys want to hear 1187 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,200 Speaker 1: that story, go back about two or three episode. Because 1188 01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:49,080 Speaker 1: I was actually surprised you you were surprised because I 1189 01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,800 Speaker 1: thought him, I know, I've seen his dad. I thought 1190 01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:53,840 Speaker 1: I've seen him and his that. But I mean that 1191 01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,960 Speaker 1: ain't no sweat off nothing. I mean, yeah, I see. 1192 01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:01,440 Speaker 1: Everybody gotta understand, man, I had a relationship with the 1193 01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:07,200 Speaker 1: rights way before the rights became police officers. It wasn't 1194 01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:12,880 Speaker 1: his before he was before before his dad became a 1195 01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:19,320 Speaker 1: police officers. His uncle Johns worked at uh Market Basket. Uh. 1196 01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:24,360 Speaker 1: His uncle Ulysses was our baseball coach when we were little. 1197 01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:29,800 Speaker 1: I know, the whole family, the sisters, his aunties. Man. 1198 01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:31,960 Speaker 1: I used to be so in love with him, and 1199 01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:34,280 Speaker 1: when we would go down the street just to take 1200 01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:38,040 Speaker 1: out the trash for him, you know, we his grandma 1201 01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:40,640 Speaker 1: and grandpa. I used to go over there and we 1202 01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,120 Speaker 1: used to go to the grocery store. So what do 1203 01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:46,520 Speaker 1: you think when his father became a cop, and then 1204 01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:50,200 Speaker 1: he became a cop, being a ma paru being in 1205 01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,880 Speaker 1: the streets, like, oh wow, the rights turned police. Even 1206 01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,760 Speaker 1: even when when when him, Jaws and all of them 1207 01:07:55,800 --> 01:08:00,280 Speaker 1: became police. Offer with Reggie and Jaws was finished six 1208 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,280 Speaker 1: and we was a little younger. The privilege we had 1209 01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,560 Speaker 1: when he was the jailer. You know, they didn't want 1210 01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,240 Speaker 1: to give up cigarettes because you know, he would give 1211 01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:11,160 Speaker 1: a cigarettes. And and that was pretty all the guys 1212 01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:14,919 Speaker 1: that came through company police station. You know what I'm saying, 1213 01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:21,000 Speaker 1: Not as a jailer, not as a jailer, but I 1214 01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:25,680 Speaker 1: have history. His cousin Tony Little Will. All of these 1215 01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,600 Speaker 1: guys slid in our backyard on the concrete, went the 1216 01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:33,320 Speaker 1: concrete down and slide playing. So I go away further 1217 01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,559 Speaker 1: than that. So when they when Reggie turned police officer, 1218 01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,680 Speaker 1: it was I mean, we were still in your I 1219 01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:43,160 Speaker 1: was a police explorer fourteen. It was always dest that 1220 01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:47,120 Speaker 1: you know, he was gonna be like his daddy. But 1221 01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:52,040 Speaker 1: like I said right now, today, Reggie was a different 1222 01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:54,800 Speaker 1: type of person that people didn't know way back in 1223 01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:58,040 Speaker 1: the days. He just became a police officer. Now need 1224 01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:01,160 Speaker 1: them broke up out of that that that that uniform. 1225 01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:06,120 Speaker 1: This thugs in over here. Man about to go to 1226 01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,760 Speaker 1: a federal pitip sentry. I don't know if you wanted 1227 01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:10,439 Speaker 1: to talk about it. I ain't telling how I'm loan, 1228 01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:14,160 Speaker 1: but I'm on my way. But you said you looked 1229 01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,840 Speaker 1: out for I guess the people that you grew up. 1230 01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,800 Speaker 1: And when they came to the jail, Biggie and all 1231 01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:21,880 Speaker 1: of them, Biggie that told stories gonna bomb first where 1232 01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,000 Speaker 1: he was about to get rushed, and he said when 1233 01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,760 Speaker 1: he saw me, it was like the red I can't 1234 01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,759 Speaker 1: even know what you're doing in there with the niggas 1235 01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:32,320 Speaker 1: got him out. So it's been situation shaved me one 1236 01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:41,400 Speaker 1: day with with Eric. He was behind me, well allegedly 1237 01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:44,679 Speaker 1: behind me in the drive by shooting. So you Shay, 1238 01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,519 Speaker 1: who was Eric parrodon or whatever your name. And he 1239 01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,200 Speaker 1: was a police officer at the time at the time, 1240 01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:53,120 Speaker 1: he's a d A now and American American. He was 1241 01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:59,760 Speaker 1: apparently behind me. So as this situation went down, we 1242 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:05,200 Speaker 1: buck the UH left going through the hood and next 1243 01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:08,439 Speaker 1: time we heard sign where sirens was heard. But when 1244 01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,320 Speaker 1: they called me, I was sitting down on the break wall, chilling, 1245 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,120 Speaker 1: doing the whole nine kicking with all the others and 1246 01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:17,200 Speaker 1: they pulled up. He take me to jail, and he 1247 01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:21,960 Speaker 1: basically told me, I saw you shoot these motherfuckers. No 1248 01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:25,640 Speaker 1: you didn't, No you didn't. We need to get your 1249 01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:29,120 Speaker 1: daddy on here because this true story. So I'm in 1250 01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,679 Speaker 1: there and I'm telling you, no, you didn't. You didn't 1251 01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:35,280 Speaker 1: see me do nothing. So uh, he thought he was 1252 01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,559 Speaker 1: going to do something. But I've always plucked him at 1253 01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:43,559 Speaker 1: the limp with plunge every time Louis Park, Louis Park swimming. 1254 01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,719 Speaker 1: I used to walk through there and just haven't penned 1255 01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,559 Speaker 1: sucking over fifty cent. And we might have gone through 1256 01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:52,320 Speaker 1: now to a cop, you know what I'm saying. So 1257 01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,200 Speaker 1: he thought he played the big cop role all them 1258 01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,800 Speaker 1: in there. They unhandcuffed me. Hey come Big Red and 1259 01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,479 Speaker 1: he talking ship but looked over. When I seen Big Ridge, 1260 01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,280 Speaker 1: I got kind of like, more man, fuck you, you 1261 01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:07,519 Speaker 1: ain't see who whoo. So he goes to try to 1262 01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:11,519 Speaker 1: get me and I lunched back at him. He could 1263 01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:13,280 Speaker 1: have whoop my ass in there, but Reggy said, hold 1264 01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,920 Speaker 1: up topic and Reggie grabbed Bamas Church snatched me out 1265 01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:19,679 Speaker 1: there there. Do you know what you're doing. He could 1266 01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:24,560 Speaker 1: have went real bad in there for me, So I 1267 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,040 Speaker 1: always thank him for that saving my ass, just just 1268 01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:29,280 Speaker 1: trying to be an asshole. Did you and Eric Cartty 1269 01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:32,920 Speaker 1: never you know Dannel never met him, never talked uh 1270 01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:38,640 Speaker 1: after after he became a police he became was he 1271 01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,000 Speaker 1: I think he was a d a Then I know 1272 01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,920 Speaker 1: I wasn't going to go to jail and have to 1273 01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,040 Speaker 1: deal with that dude. And then he became the mayor, 1274 01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:48,560 Speaker 1: so I was like, man, I used to what was 1275 01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:51,720 Speaker 1: this guy? And and and that goes to show man, 1276 01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:55,760 Speaker 1: you never know who you funk with. When you when 1277 01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:57,960 Speaker 1: you're dealing with somebody, messing with somebody, you never know 1278 01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:00,439 Speaker 1: what that person is gonna be. Then this time you 1279 01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:05,360 Speaker 1: see them. I say this to everybody. You can mess 1280 01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:08,080 Speaker 1: with the simplest person and that could be a demon, 1281 01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:10,479 Speaker 1: he could be a devil. You don't know who you're 1282 01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:12,960 Speaker 1: dealing with. And then you go messing with these people 1283 01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:15,000 Speaker 1: and then you get the shoulder end of the stick 1284 01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:18,639 Speaker 1: and then we complain. Ain't no complaining, it's too late. 1285 01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:21,519 Speaker 1: You don't you don't bid off too much already you 1286 01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:24,920 Speaker 1: started this ship. So I mean, man, we just gotta 1287 01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:28,760 Speaker 1: we just gotta fix this us, you know what I'm saying. 1288 01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,000 Speaker 1: And I just think and I wish all of us 1289 01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:34,160 Speaker 1: could just just sit out and pay attention to each 1290 01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:36,840 Speaker 1: other and just say, we don't have to kill each other. 1291 01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:38,960 Speaker 1: We don't have the gang bang. Let's get a big 1292 01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,640 Speaker 1: as boxing ring and then put these cats in the 1293 01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:44,680 Speaker 1: ring on the weekends and you can bet on the 1294 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,800 Speaker 1: fight and do whatever. Put the gun, yeamn, you don't 1295 01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:51,559 Speaker 1: need the gun. We need to learn how to accept 1296 01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:55,160 Speaker 1: ass whopens I mean they do. Some cats don't know, 1297 01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:58,200 Speaker 1: and they ain't had that fight because it's always about 1298 01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:00,840 Speaker 1: a pistol. A lot of these cats ain't had no 1299 01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:03,400 Speaker 1: hand to hand, no no squad for a lot of 1300 01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:06,680 Speaker 1: these young cats thrive off of fade. You know what 1301 01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:10,519 Speaker 1: I'm saying, how you should be a long time ago. Now, Man, 1302 01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:12,560 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna kill his cat and get it over with. 1303 01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:18,680 Speaker 1: I'm fifty five, fifty four. I ain't finified. I'm just 1304 01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,400 Speaker 1: gonna blow your head off. No, why are you in 1305 01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:24,160 Speaker 1: this situation to do that? Anyway? Well, when you got 1306 01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:28,880 Speaker 1: a big age difference or generational difference, the youngster that's 1307 01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,760 Speaker 1: twenty one years old ain't gonna go head up with 1308 01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,360 Speaker 1: the O G. That's fifty two or fifty three or not. 1309 01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,160 Speaker 1: I agree, why not. But in most instances you're not 1310 01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:40,599 Speaker 1: gonna see that. If you ain't gonna see it. If 1311 01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,439 Speaker 1: you respect me, respect me to the fullest. Don't have 1312 01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:46,920 Speaker 1: as respect me just because you I'm the big homie. 1313 01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:48,800 Speaker 1: If I said this is the way it should be, 1314 01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,120 Speaker 1: or don't do it like this. I didn't play this 1315 01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:55,320 Speaker 1: game before. So I know these little cats out here 1316 01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:57,280 Speaker 1: in the street right now that they are hard hit it. 1317 01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:00,880 Speaker 1: They ain't listening to you. You you have to kill 1318 01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:03,840 Speaker 1: one of them. But it is a waste of fucking life, 1319 01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:06,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And nine times out of ten, 1320 01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:08,439 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, why did you kill 1321 01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:10,880 Speaker 1: that dude? You can honestly sit there and be kicking 1322 01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:14,040 Speaker 1: it with the homies and drinking. Why are you killing No, 1323 01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:17,240 Speaker 1: I just felt like shooting that food. Come on, man, 1324 01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:21,120 Speaker 1: that don't make no damn sense. And that's what I've 1325 01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:25,599 Speaker 1: never had a reason why. But he was a crip, 1326 01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,320 Speaker 1: or he was this or he was that. That's the 1327 01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:30,200 Speaker 1: only reason I had to do what I had to do. 1328 01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:34,280 Speaker 1: But this is what we're doing. You know what I'm saying, 1329 01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:40,120 Speaker 1: all right, Reggie and James, this question is for both 1330 01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,080 Speaker 1: of y'all. If you can go back in time during 1331 01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:45,479 Speaker 1: the early death Row years, what would you do different 1332 01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:50,559 Speaker 1: that could possibly have changed the trajectory of Death Row forever? 1333 01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:55,360 Speaker 1: What can you if you can go back in hindsight course, Reggie, 1334 01:14:55,400 --> 01:15:02,360 Speaker 1: what would you do different? Um? Well, the obvious question 1335 01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:07,519 Speaker 1: is September the seven, what is it? Let's not go 1336 01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:10,680 Speaker 1: to this fight. Stay our asks in content, Let's not 1337 01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:12,479 Speaker 1: go to the fight. But you got the club six six, 1338 01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:18,519 Speaker 1: Let's stay home, Tupac, go watch it, go watch the Uh. 1339 01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:22,360 Speaker 1: You got that big old spot in Wilshire, on Wilshire 1340 01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,640 Speaker 1: with a big old, nice big screen TV that you 1341 01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,760 Speaker 1: just got. Well, you got this nice little house in Calabasas. 1342 01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:33,000 Speaker 1: That's well, you know, everybody's at go watch the fight there. 1343 01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:39,080 Speaker 1: That's Monday back quarterback. And that's so I don't believe 1344 01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,559 Speaker 1: in that, you know, trying to change you know, time 1345 01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:45,479 Speaker 1: and all of that. But yeah, that's a question. And 1346 01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,840 Speaker 1: that's what that changed. That was the start of the 1347 01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:52,439 Speaker 1: downfall of the front. They got shiged, got chilled by 1348 01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:56,000 Speaker 1: later they got you got shuged nine year violations. You 1349 01:15:56,080 --> 01:16:00,400 Speaker 1: did five pod losters life, and then a whole bunch 1350 01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:03,720 Speaker 1: of other things trickled out of control after that, I 1351 01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:08,479 Speaker 1: mean personally out of truly stayed on sugar Head. I 1352 01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,720 Speaker 1: should have stayed on sugar Head. Uh, I could have. 1353 01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:15,320 Speaker 1: I should have had a better, uh way better understanding 1354 01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:17,800 Speaker 1: with my brother. I'd have told him, cast this ain't 1355 01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:21,639 Speaker 1: how we're doing it. This is a business, treated like business, 1356 01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:24,599 Speaker 1: and and everything is cool. We didn't have to bring 1357 01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:29,160 Speaker 1: game baying and all that bullshit into this business because 1358 01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,640 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we all lost. But 1359 01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,559 Speaker 1: I would have definitely stayed on sugar Head and then 1360 01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:38,519 Speaker 1: not have them bring all those guys in like that. 1361 01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:40,720 Speaker 1: If we're gonna go back to the hood, we can 1362 01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:42,920 Speaker 1: go back to the hood and take care of hood 1363 01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:46,880 Speaker 1: from this perspective, not from a gang perspective. You feel me, 1364 01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,160 Speaker 1: So I definitely would have stayed on Should come on, shoo, 1365 01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:52,400 Speaker 1: this ain't the right way, This ain't the way we 1366 01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:55,080 Speaker 1: should do it. And if he had listened, then because 1367 01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:59,120 Speaker 1: She'll had so much influence with all the people, everybody 1368 01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,960 Speaker 1: in that business is should could have got what he wanted. 1369 01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,720 Speaker 1: People understood that Should was was ready for whatever we 1370 01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:08,160 Speaker 1: was ready to fight. We was ready to do our ship, 1371 01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:13,200 Speaker 1: but we should have been more structured and that in 1372 01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:15,880 Speaker 1: that business and looked at up, looked at it from 1373 01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:20,519 Speaker 1: a longevity point opposed to right then and then type 1374 01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:23,439 Speaker 1: of ship. But I would definitely try to be on him, 1375 01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:26,719 Speaker 1: been on him and my brother slow your goddamn rolled 1376 01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:30,400 Speaker 1: and I probably would have just walked away as easy 1377 01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:32,880 Speaker 1: as I did. He probably you probably want to listen 1378 01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:36,640 Speaker 1: to you though. He would him, he would have, but 1379 01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:40,800 Speaker 1: I didn't apply that. I just let him do that. 1380 01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:44,200 Speaker 1: And and you know, it's it's a lot to it, 1381 01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,000 Speaker 1: and a lot of people don't understand, you know what 1382 01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:50,320 Speaker 1: we say, Like now, it's a lot more insight to 1383 01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:52,360 Speaker 1: it is a lot of the ship that was going 1384 01:17:52,439 --> 01:18:00,040 Speaker 1: on from the inside of it that that prevented a 1385 01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:03,280 Speaker 1: lot of real ship and positive ship from happening because 1386 01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:08,760 Speaker 1: everybody was on different pages and everybody wasn't working together. Everybody. 1387 01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:12,839 Speaker 1: You had you had guys hating the homies hating the homies, 1388 01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:17,280 Speaker 1: you had homies talking to other motherfucker's just trying to 1389 01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:21,120 Speaker 1: figure out when some other individuals getting paid. And it 1390 01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,479 Speaker 1: was it was a bunch of different ships that happened 1391 01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:27,800 Speaker 1: and led up to this. Things should have changed when 1392 01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,479 Speaker 1: Tupac came. And then that's why I said, well it 1393 01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:33,519 Speaker 1: should should have stepped his game up and said, Okay, 1394 01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:38,479 Speaker 1: I gotta protect this. This is this is high this 1395 01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:42,240 Speaker 1: is how we do this instead of just letting everybody 1396 01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:46,000 Speaker 1: just go just just run loose, and it is what 1397 01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:49,240 Speaker 1: it is. Actually, I have a question in in the 1398 01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:56,760 Speaker 1: MGM incident, there were no right way security in that entourage. 1399 01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:02,360 Speaker 1: Am I wrong? Okay? How many were there? Because if 1400 01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,519 Speaker 1: I'm in hindsight, I would say I would keep two 1401 01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:09,400 Speaker 1: people on POC to security on POC at all times. 1402 01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:12,320 Speaker 1: And if if Sugar is there are three, if if 1403 01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:16,320 Speaker 1: pockin Sugar together three so that that whole Orlando Anderson 1404 01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:23,840 Speaker 1: incident would have never happened and then everybody still be alive. Yeah, 1405 01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:27,920 Speaker 1: because and I say this too, with Reggie security there, 1406 01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:32,680 Speaker 1: and then you take brunchry Neckbone and and and uh 1407 01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:38,519 Speaker 1: and Heron and George, you just take somebody from there 1408 01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:44,040 Speaker 1: and their security they they policing Reggie security and Shoe 1409 01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:46,519 Speaker 1: and Tupac. They should never be in a way of 1410 01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:50,040 Speaker 1: nothing at homes way of anything. Tupac, like they said, 1411 01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:53,080 Speaker 1: he's hard hited. He took off on his own where 1412 01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:55,880 Speaker 1: you can't control that unless you have dudes on him. 1413 01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:57,320 Speaker 1: But would have had him, I would have been on 1414 01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:59,960 Speaker 1: him and wouldn't have been bad. I wouldn't trusted y'all 1415 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,120 Speaker 1: a long pop because y'all got the gangster mentality. But 1416 01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:05,320 Speaker 1: that's what I'm would have been like joining in pop 1417 01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:07,840 Speaker 1: when when? So, who are you gonna take to the fight. 1418 01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,240 Speaker 1: You're gonna take You're gonna take the homies to the fighter. 1419 01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:12,080 Speaker 1: You're gonna take a much scarity cards to the both. 1420 01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:14,080 Speaker 1: I mean, all y'all know each other. The Homies was 1421 01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:19,080 Speaker 1: in there anyway, you know, had tickets and and that 1422 01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:21,479 Speaker 1: was like we didn't have tickets. Think that's why the 1423 01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:25,120 Speaker 1: outlaws got left that house. If Tray would a Shane 1424 01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:29,880 Speaker 1: Orlando good ruge, y'all just got into it. You know, 1425 01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:35,760 Speaker 1: its only cracket on site. He should have took off. Yeah, 1426 01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,840 Speaker 1: come back, I mean we could talk about what if. 1427 01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:45,800 Speaker 1: That's definite um. In his defense, he was pretty much 1428 01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:48,240 Speaker 1: saying that he was coming to get permission from his 1429 01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:51,560 Speaker 1: homeboys to do that. Who should Well that's when he 1430 01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,160 Speaker 1: by saying, I was talking to my big homies. I 1431 01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:59,040 Speaker 1: wasn't talking to two pop. That's Trade defense. And he 1432 01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,439 Speaker 1: never really went into detail about this in any interview. 1433 01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:03,439 Speaker 1: I know you had him on Bomb first a while ago, 1434 01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:06,760 Speaker 1: but very brief interview. He didn't want to answer too 1435 01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:11,880 Speaker 1: many questions. I know you to talk to him about 1436 01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:15,160 Speaker 1: this many talks how That's how I got the I 1437 01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,200 Speaker 1: was one of the ones. That's what he called me 1438 01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:18,920 Speaker 1: if I was a little red. Why do you keep 1439 01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:22,040 Speaker 1: saying I whispered in his ear? I didn't whisper in 1440 01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:25,679 Speaker 1: his ear. Your security guy is the one that started 1441 01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:28,519 Speaker 1: that rumor. I talked to Trade the day we did 1442 01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:32,280 Speaker 1: the interview, and I caught him on on the on 1443 01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:36,360 Speaker 1: the Block and uh, he said, and we agreed to this. 1444 01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:39,600 Speaker 1: I told him, yeah, I said that you he's the 1445 01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:42,160 Speaker 1: one that whishper and said YadA YadA, because she that's 1446 01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:44,960 Speaker 1: what she told me, that you whispered. If you wouldn't 1447 01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:49,760 Speaker 1: have whispered too, I used to say it, okay, So 1448 01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:54,840 Speaker 1: so Sul actually told you that Trade that he said 1449 01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:57,160 Speaker 1: he didn't, I said, okay, exactly, And I came back 1450 01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:59,719 Speaker 1: on the show and and and switched it up. Trade 1451 01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:02,360 Speaker 1: bonds there a sugar night life for you right there. 1452 01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:05,600 Speaker 1: Mistake is not a lie just because he said he 1453 01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:08,360 Speaker 1: don't know this is what was out there. You saying 1454 01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:10,519 Speaker 1: I was lying, Let me let me say I'm not. 1455 01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm just responding to this. I just said we had 1456 01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:21,200 Speaker 1: a good If y'all believe that Trayvon Lane did not 1457 01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:26,679 Speaker 1: whisper in pox here, there's so it came from all 1458 01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:28,720 Speaker 1: of us. I used to say it. But I'm a 1459 01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:31,280 Speaker 1: liar because I used to say that that's what we perceived, 1460 01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:34,160 Speaker 1: that what we always heard. That's when we all all read, 1461 01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:38,719 Speaker 1: that's what we all put out there. A video showed 1462 01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:41,599 Speaker 1: the video that you didn't see that after that show, 1463 01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:45,880 Speaker 1: after that episode aired, somebody sent me a message chain 1464 01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:48,160 Speaker 1: there's another video. I don't know if it's true or not. 1465 01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:52,240 Speaker 1: It's another video or sixty minutes has another video where 1466 01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:56,160 Speaker 1: Trayvon Lane is whisper in his ear. Of course, I 1467 01:22:56,240 --> 01:23:02,439 Speaker 1: guess they should put that out. There's no but but 1468 01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:04,920 Speaker 1: we can only go by Trayvon's word, and I'm just 1469 01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:08,599 Speaker 1: saying what he reported, or until we see that video, 1470 01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:11,720 Speaker 1: then I gotta go by based on the man word. 1471 01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:15,439 Speaker 1: And did anyone ever Sugar or James, do you ask 1472 01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:18,240 Speaker 1: you why did you say that? If no, no, I mean, 1473 01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:21,040 Speaker 1: it's long after and when he said that, that's what 1474 01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:23,639 Speaker 1: I went by at this time. I'm not talking another 1475 01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:27,000 Speaker 1: believe that. I believe that I just had with this. 1476 01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,240 Speaker 1: He told me that when I was doing any interview 1477 01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:34,080 Speaker 1: with you, and okay, I'm saying, okay, no, So now 1478 01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:38,000 Speaker 1: you gotta think. Okay, if if if Trayvon didn't say that, 1479 01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:42,200 Speaker 1: somebody told Jupark who this cat was, because tray Bon don't, 1480 01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:44,560 Speaker 1: I mean Tupac don't know this dude from Jack the 1481 01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:50,679 Speaker 1: correct point. He said, I was talking to Bountry Neckbone Shilk, 1482 01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:54,240 Speaker 1: who was standing right there as well, my big homies. 1483 01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:58,560 Speaker 1: I'm coming to tell my big homies, Hey, there's the 1484 01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:01,759 Speaker 1: dude that I got into would or snatched my attempt 1485 01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:04,000 Speaker 1: at to snatch my change whatever the words were. Who 1486 01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:06,960 Speaker 1: knows what the work. But his whole point was, I 1487 01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:09,400 Speaker 1: didn't go whisper in pox air. I'm talking to my 1488 01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:12,680 Speaker 1: big homies, letting them know, and he over heard and 1489 01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:15,000 Speaker 1: took off in ran That's what he told you. That's 1490 01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:19,240 Speaker 1: what he's telling me. Hey, that's his story. It could 1491 01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:22,200 Speaker 1: be rehearsed, it could be after Monday back quarterback. I 1492 01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:24,800 Speaker 1: don't know. That's his story. Yeah, I mean it could 1493 01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:29,360 Speaker 1: be true. We don't know. I mean, it's it's a 1494 01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:34,080 Speaker 1: terrible thing to have people the world. I think that 1495 01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:41,880 Speaker 1: something you did cause pox death. No, no, not defensive traypon. 1496 01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:43,920 Speaker 1: I didn't tell the man to go take off. He 1497 01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:46,040 Speaker 1: did that on his own. Pockets are grown ass man 1498 01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:49,800 Speaker 1: twenty years also a grown man. Don't say that. Why 1499 01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:51,960 Speaker 1: as they saying that now? But they're claiming he from 1500 01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,240 Speaker 1: the hood and all his other bullshit. None of your 1501 01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:56,400 Speaker 1: because you from the hood. You don't mean you have 1502 01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:58,200 Speaker 1: to go take all when you gotta school and you 1503 01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:00,439 Speaker 1: don't know Jackson about that, don't And he had to 1504 01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:03,040 Speaker 1: go take off and do that. He could have said, 1505 01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:04,280 Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna get that nig as soon as 1506 01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:06,920 Speaker 1: he walked out of the plan well instead of out 1507 01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:09,360 Speaker 1: of the land, they should have snatched part off of 1508 01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:10,880 Speaker 1: him and took him the funk out of this and 1509 01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:12,639 Speaker 1: then they got him out there real good. I thought, 1510 01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:15,400 Speaker 1: I went to Lando and they got away, because what 1511 01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:18,599 Speaker 1: was gonna with that onge? What nobody did you see? 1512 01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:22,080 Speaker 1: How people getting it was damn foods. Yeah, it was 1513 01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:26,120 Speaker 1: a little too late, so you know, it's that's what 1514 01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:28,920 Speaker 1: I would have did anyway, somebody should have stopped Pop, 1515 01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:32,439 Speaker 1: whether it was Right Way security or somebody from mob 1516 01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:34,960 Speaker 1: right with scary didn't get him on him. But I'm 1517 01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:38,720 Speaker 1: saying before he took off, before he started running, you're 1518 01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:43,320 Speaker 1: gonna get over your pocket running and grab him back. 1519 01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:46,640 Speaker 1: The video, I mean, he wasn't running, he wasn't doing 1520 01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:51,920 Speaker 1: ad this. This, This was walking past the homies. Get down. Now. 1521 01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:54,080 Speaker 1: The homies should have been to the side in the 1522 01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:57,040 Speaker 1: conference like mac man let me how let you now 1523 01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:00,240 Speaker 1: I didn't. They're gonna entourage and just you know, talking 1524 01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:03,680 Speaker 1: with all them people and you can actually hear what 1525 01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:09,679 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. That's one thing they should have pulled 1526 01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:11,559 Speaker 1: to the side, and the homies shops should have got 1527 01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:16,960 Speaker 1: all the homies and homies. This motherfucker's right here. Now 1528 01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:21,639 Speaker 1: we do some game, bank and ship. It ain't tupark 1529 01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:24,360 Speaker 1: job to do this. Tuparc ain't getting paid to beat 1530 01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:29,320 Speaker 1: up no comforts, some comfort. Goddamnit. These are rivals. Let's 1531 01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:33,240 Speaker 1: go a hand on our business. And that's what that 1532 01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:36,280 Speaker 1: question came in from Mia Lynn on Instagram. I want 1533 01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:39,519 Speaker 1: to thank her and everybody else for submitting questions, and 1534 01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:41,880 Speaker 1: that is going to wrap up another edition of The 1535 01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:46,360 Speaker 1: Gangster Chronicles. Please make sure you go to iTunes, rate us, 1536 01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:51,280 Speaker 1: review us, and submit more questions for future episodes. Make 1537 01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:54,120 Speaker 1: sure you check out bomb First on Tuesdays at seven 1538 01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:58,080 Speaker 1: thirty and listen to Reggie Wright's live show Don't forget 1539 01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:01,840 Speaker 1: about Street TV. I post interviews to three times a 1540 01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:06,479 Speaker 1: week and also Reggie writes, um, I'm sorry. James McDonald's shirt. 1541 01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:09,800 Speaker 1: The death Row shirt is available on the Bomb First 1542 01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:17,160 Speaker 1: Patreon page, which is accessible through many different on easier. Yeah, 1543 01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:18,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to say that. I wanted to say that, 1544 01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:22,240 Speaker 1: you know, I wanna. I want to thank everybody, and 1545 01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:27,360 Speaker 1: I appreciate everybody that's personated shirts from all over. I'm 1546 01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:30,719 Speaker 1: getting them out as quick as I can. Some people 1547 01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:34,360 Speaker 1: was getting them a day after I met him out, 1548 01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:40,599 Speaker 1: which is cool. I'm glad everybody loving it. Um, I've um. 1549 01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:45,120 Speaker 1: I started my promise. If y'all can see on on Instagram, 1550 01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:50,120 Speaker 1: you know, I started with my brother's uh granddaughter and 1551 01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:54,040 Speaker 1: gave them and now I'm trying to reach out a 1552 01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:56,519 Speaker 1: windows to give me to the hook up so I 1553 01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:58,760 Speaker 1: can send this two hundred and fifty bucks to Shug 1554 01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:03,760 Speaker 1: and then I'm waiting on UH A a little hook 1555 01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:07,680 Speaker 1: up with Cynthia Nunum so I can give her the 1556 01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:12,360 Speaker 1: three D four hundred bucks UH Through her organization, she 1557 01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:17,360 Speaker 1: feed everybody in Compton every weekend, the homeless, and and 1558 01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:22,960 Speaker 1: we wanna help help her out with that. You know, 1559 01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:27,400 Speaker 1: four hundred bus can feed maybe another hundred people, so 1560 01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:30,320 Speaker 1: we definitely want to want to get that to him 1561 01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:33,920 Speaker 1: and and just take care everybody. So I'm doing what 1562 01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,640 Speaker 1: I said I was gonna do, and I appreciate everybody 1563 01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:38,840 Speaker 1: for helping me out doing it to do it. Okay. 1564 01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:43,120 Speaker 1: And Cynthia nuns organization is called Sylvia nun Angels, and 1565 01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:45,800 Speaker 1: I just recently interviewed her and the links to her 1566 01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:49,400 Speaker 1: organization are on my interview and you can find her 1567 01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:52,280 Speaker 1: on Facebook. Two don't forget, We're gonna be doing a 1568 01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:55,720 Speaker 1: live broadcast of the show real soon, so just stay 1569 01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:58,320 Speaker 1: tuned for that. Well, hopefully we'll have more information on 1570 01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:02,600 Speaker 1: that next week. And and the website, the Gangster Chronicles 1571 01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:05,240 Speaker 1: podcast dot com that will be the site where you'll 1572 01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:07,960 Speaker 1: be able to get tickets for our live show coming 1573 01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:15,479 Speaker 1: real soon. Thanks for listening again, I'm out. This has 1574 01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:17,880 Speaker 1: been a digital SOAPBUTS Network production