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Speaker 1: Today on the Unafraid Show, we gotta rank the ACC

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Speaker 1: from top to bottom, and Nick Saban went up on

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Speaker 1: Capitol Hill to talk about name, image and likeness. Oh boy,

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Speaker 1: do I have a reaction, And we have special guests.

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Speaker 1: Defensive coordinator from the Arizona State Sun Devil was mister

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Speaker 1: Brian ward Is in the building and we got to

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Speaker 1: talk about women's college basketball.

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Speaker 2: Because all publicity is good publicity, and it's time for

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Speaker 2: the Unafraid Show. Let's go.

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Speaker 1: It's time to rank the new ACC football from number

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Speaker 1: one to sixteen. Now, this ranking is based upon which

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Speaker 1: teams will win the most Atlantic Coast Conference games over

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Speaker 1: the next five seasons. Let's start with number sixteen. Actually,

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Speaker 1: before we even get to number sixteen, there is some

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Speaker 1: fine print because the ACC list was more true then

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Speaker 1: the Big Ten, Big twelve and the SEC because are

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Speaker 1: we even sure that this conference will be a conference

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Speaker 1: in five years thanks to Florida State, Clemson and others

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Speaker 1: fomo about money. But now onto the list. Number sixteen

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Speaker 1: Boston College. The Eagles haven't had a winning record in

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Speaker 1: the ACC since two thousand and nine, and the administration's

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Speaker 1: response to Jeff Hafley leaving his head coaching post for

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Speaker 1: a coordinator position in the NFL was to bring in

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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien, who has left being a college coach for

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Speaker 1: the NFL not once, not twice, but three times now.

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Speaker 1: My question about this team is, does Bill O'Brien want

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Speaker 1: a head coaching job wherever would have him, Because Boston

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Speaker 1: College fans deserve somebody that wants to stick around long

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Speaker 1: term and lift them out of mediocrity. Because I think

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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien is a very good coach, but my doubts

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Speaker 1: about how he'll perform in this role have everything to

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Speaker 1: do with my doubts that he's all in on doing

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Speaker 1: whatever it takes to embrace the new landscape of college football.

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Speaker 1: That actually chased their last head coach, Jeff Hafley away.

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Speaker 1: Number fifteen Pittsburgh Paton Ardoozy. Their coach had an opportunity

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Speaker 1: watch Marion's unlv offense ranked twenty second in scoring in

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Speaker 2: Was at one sixteen.

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Speaker 1: So now Nardozy, who is an elite defensive mind, has

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Speaker 1: to put all his eggs in the k Bell basket

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Speaker 1: who came over from Western Carolina after leading the top

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Speaker 1: offense in the FCS. Now he does have transferred quarterback

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Speaker 1: Eli Holstein coming in from Alabama, which could be the

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Speaker 1: after this season.

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Speaker 2: Because if Pitt does.

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Speaker 1: Have to regroup, I think that it will keep them

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Speaker 1: near the bottom of the conference over the next five years.

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Speaker 1: Number fourteen Sarah's fran Brown, Tom Baby, And you have

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Speaker 1: staffer at Georgia. Now it's not hard to see what

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Speaker 1: Syracuse is doing here, and it has paid immediate dividends

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Speaker 1: with the Orange collect in a top forty recruiting class

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Speaker 1: and a top twenty five transfer class this year. But

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Speaker 1: can Fran Brown turned this talent into wins, because that's

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Speaker 1: factor in the school's god awful history of having two

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Speaker 1: conference wins or less in fourteen of their last nineteen seasons.

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Speaker 1: But there is a major upside with Brown though, because

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Speaker 1: when he said he's not leaving Syracuse, I actually believed him.

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Speaker 1: Number thirteen, Wake Forest. Now, before y'all get all upset,

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Speaker 1: I do get that the Demon Dickens are coming off

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Speaker 1: one of their better runs in school history. They were

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Speaker 1: has translated into being the middle of the pack recruiting destination.

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Speaker 2: In the ACC.

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Speaker 1: But last year Dave Classon squad regressed to a one

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Speaker 1: game in conference play. Now they'll have twenty four year

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Speaker 1: old Hank Bachmeyer competing to take this offense over and

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Speaker 1: might take some serious staff changes, something that Dave Coston doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Number twelve Virginia Tony Elliott has to win right now.

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Speaker 1: But if you look at the fact that Virginia is

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Speaker 1: and this team showed some serious promise in some of

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Speaker 1: their close losses and one big win. Now, the Cavaliers

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Speaker 1: the one area where Virginia really worries me is an

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Speaker 1: inability to rush the passer in a conference where comfortable

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks will get you killed. Number eleven Virginia Tech Brent

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Speaker 1: Pride did seemingly the impossible and got the Hokies offense

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Speaker 1: But the Bears lost is the Hokies game plus running back,

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Speaker 1: Butschule touton returns and I'm not convinced that Virginia Tech

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Speaker 1: Number ten, Cal, I'm still trying to wrap my head

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Speaker 1: around the fact that Cal's conference headquarters is in Charlotte,

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Speaker 1: North Carolina, and they're in the Atlantic Coast Conference and

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Speaker 2: The West Coast.

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Speaker 1: But anyways, Cal does have access to something that I

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Speaker 1: Wilcox isn't going to be afraid of these ACC offenses,

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Speaker 1: but these road games are going to be a grind

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Speaker 1: and Cal is about to have his fourth dude in

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Speaker 1: the last sixteen months calling the offense. And the floor

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Speaker 1: and ceiling are very close together for this Golden Bears

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Speaker 1: scenery the key to Cal's success because I expect four

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Speaker 1: because if Justin Wilcox has success, he'll absolutely leave Cal

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Speaker 2: Number nine North Carolina. I'm not being ages.

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Speaker 1: Here, people, but Mac Brown is the oldest head coaching

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Speaker 2: And it's the fear of the.

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Speaker 1: Unknown that has me putting the Tar Hills right in

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Speaker 1: they're losing Drake May, they still have Omrion Hampton to

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Speaker 1: hang on to twenty twenty five in state quarterback Bryce Baker,

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Speaker 1: this offense could stay dangerous until twenty twenty eight. But

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Speaker 1: offense is never North Carolina's problem. It's the defense that

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Speaker 1: is giving up over thirty points per game in the

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Speaker 1: last three years combined. That would have fans worried and

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Speaker 1: until that gets fixed, the tar Hills will be good.

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Speaker 1: But never great. Number eight Stanford. I don't think that

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Speaker 1: globe trotting around as great country as their Bay Area

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Speaker 2: But the team recruits.

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Speaker 1: The best and the brightest all over the country anyway,

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Speaker 1: high level quarterback. Now it's Ash and Daniels that guy

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Speaker 1: we'll find out this year. Number seven Duke welcome.

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Speaker 2: Back to the ACC as a head coach. Manny dz.

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Speaker 1: Three years in Miami and a twenty one and fifteen

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Speaker 1: been counting down the days to get another shot to

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Speaker 1: And he's gonna get one hell of a quarterback in

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Speaker 1: Malik Murphy from Texas to do that with, because Duke's

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Speaker 1: not an easy place to win consistently. But Mike Elko

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Speaker 2: And Manny Diaz.

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Speaker 1: If he can keep the ship steady, the Blue Devils

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Speaker 1: over the next five years. Number six Georgia Tech. Brent

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Speaker 1: twenty three by taking Georgia Tech.

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Speaker 1: And if he's the one that made the decision to

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Speaker 1: in a top thirty five prep class this year, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna see an unprecedented era of success for this team.

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Speaker 1: Number five Miami Hurricanes. Now, you can say whatever you

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Speaker 1: want about Mario Christobal. Has he underachieved?

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Speaker 3: Sure?

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Speaker 1: Is he still a top five recruiter in America, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: because he actually might be top three, and now he's

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Speaker 1: convinced cam Ward to be a Hurricane and stay in

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Speaker 1: man this roster is loaded, and if Mario Cristobal can't

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Speaker 1: Number four Clint I disagree with Davos Sweeney's position on

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Speaker 1: the transfer portal, but the Tigers still recruit at a

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Speaker 1: level that the bottom will never really drop out. But

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Speaker 1: that twelve year run of twenty eleven to twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: two where Clemson averaged less than one conference loss per year,

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Speaker 1: those days are overbuddy, because Clemson might even win the

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Speaker 1: ACC a couple of times over the next five seasons.

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Speaker 1: But being fully anti portal makes any of Davos players

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Speaker 2: In the country.

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Speaker 1: Trying to delay the inevitable is admirable, but the Tigers

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Speaker 1: are doing this at their own risk. Number three North

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Speaker 1: Carolina State. I got the wolf Pack rank so high

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Speaker 1: for two reasons. First off, they went nine to four

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Speaker 1: And second, Dave darn was filling himself so much last

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Speaker 1: you know how crazy you have to be to trash

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Speaker 3: Coach. Thanks for coming on the show.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate it. Sure, Jam.

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Speaker 1: You've been at a lot of stops throughout your whole

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Speaker 6: Really, just when when you're fortunate enough to be able

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Speaker 5: It's just something completely different.

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Speaker 1: And how has you know, growing up in a boxing

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Speaker 6: It's interesting, there's there's a lot of similarities to the sports,

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Speaker 6: So you better be in shape, and you better train

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Speaker 1: And in boxing styles, styles make fights, so you can

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Speaker 7: Do you It's like you've been in my meeting rooms

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Speaker 6: I mean, you can literally look down the pipe in

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Speaker 5: And so there's just you know, there's that's right.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you're you're hit you and I like brothers

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Speaker 1: For us to win a game, when when you have

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Speaker 5: You're you're looking at a program philosophy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, starting day one, you know, like getting

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Speaker 6: let's get as many reps on offense as possible, and

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Speaker 6: And you know a little bit to what I mean.

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Speaker 6: I've been at places I don't like that. So you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, does that make sense.

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Speaker 6: of the fall, and then I got to get ready

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Speaker 6: for it in a week's time. And you talked about

443
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,119
Speaker 6: like the triple option, you know what I mean, Like if

444
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 6: you never see the triple option, Why is the triple

445
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 6: option have.

446
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 3: So much success because nobody sees it because you.

447
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Speaker 6: Don't see it and there's no way to prepare for

448
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 6: it until the week of that game. And those teams

449
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,400
Speaker 6: that have had success.

450
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Speaker 5: You bring it up.

451
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Speaker 6: University of Wyoming, you know what I mean, Woming, You

452
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Speaker 6: know what I mean, like I mean, and I know

453
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Speaker 6: Coach Bowl like his philosophy was he was going to

454
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Speaker 6: take he was going to take time in spring ball

455
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Speaker 6: and fall camp, you know, to be able to prepare

456
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Speaker 6: for that because he knew there was nothing that you

457
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Speaker 6: could duplicate.

458
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Speaker 3: That's a fact. Why come play for coach Brian.

459
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 5: Ward because we're going to develop you.

460
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Speaker 6: Okay, We're going to make fundamentals the hallmark of what

461
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Speaker 6: we do on defense, and we're going to make you

462
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Speaker 6: play as fast as you ever can play on defense.

463
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Speaker 6: There's never going to be any question. We're not going

464
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Speaker 6: to change the way we develop you or teach you.

465
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Speaker 6: We're not going to come up with new terms and

466
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Speaker 6: new ways to coach it from day to day. It's

467
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Speaker 6: literally going to be the foundation, and we're going to

468
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Speaker 6: continue to re enforce those things so you can NonStop

469
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 6: develop and position coaches will come and go. But the

470
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Speaker 6: system will never stay will always stay the same, it

471
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Speaker 6: will never change.

472
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Speaker 3: How do you keep your hair like that? Because that's

473
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Speaker 3: perfect hair?

474
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Speaker 2: Man?

475
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Speaker 7: All right, you've been talking to Coop. You're talking about coaches.

476
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Speaker 7: I can swim about this all the time. Okay, listen,

477
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Speaker 7: this is natural. Okay. I don't drink, I don't smoke.

478
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 7: I try to stay in shape. I live in clean

479
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 7: life and uh yeah, I'm just I'm holding on to

480
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,959
Speaker 7: every bit of color in my hair as possible, getting fit.

481
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Speaker 7: I just turned fifty.

482
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Speaker 5: Lasting is just perfectly manic.

483
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Speaker 2: Here. You've got to line up.

484
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Speaker 3: This is perfect air. Man.

485
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Speaker 5: Man, you've been talking to people. I'm telling you, I

486
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:42,400
Speaker 5: got a mole.

487
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Speaker 2: Nobody told me. Did anybody tell me that I got

488
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Speaker 2: a mole in here? Man?

489
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Speaker 1: You guys, he's coaching. I am Ward defensive coordinator, Arizona State.

490
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Speaker 3: Thanks for coming on.

491
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Speaker 5: I appreciate it, all right.

492
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Speaker 1: I want to talk about the fight or the solo

493
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Speaker 1: college football, because that's what it really is, the solo

494
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 1: college football. Because so many of us fell in love

495
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 1: with what college football or what we thought it stood for.

496
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 2: It was loyalty, it was passion. There was an innocence.

497
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Speaker 1: To it that wasn't involved in the professionalism that the

498
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Speaker 1: NFL offered. So I understand the discontentment of people when NIL,

499
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 1: the transfer portal and all of these other changes have

500
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Speaker 1: happened in such a short period in time. Not only

501
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:31,360
Speaker 1: are there transfers, there's unlimited transfers, and there's no transparency

502
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 1: surround name, image and likeness, and you have different conversations

503
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Speaker 1: about what college football is really really about and oh,

504
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 1: it's the game is dead and all this stuff. What's

505
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 1: really not. The ratings are fine, people's interest is fine.

506
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 1: We just have to adapt to a new way of

507
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: watching and looking at college football because things have changed.

508
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: Your father's college football is not what college football looks

509
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Speaker 1: like now.

510
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Speaker 2: And it's really frustrated.

511
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Speaker 1: And when you have the people who are gatekeepers of

512
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 1: college football, partially the coaches and the athletic directors who

513
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Speaker 1: are multimillionaires, complaining about the system when they've been the

514
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 1: main people who have been the beneficiaries of that system.

515
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Speaker 1: This week you had United States senator and can Kon

516
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 1: enthusiast Ted Cruz host a roundtable to make it look

517
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Speaker 1: like the government has any collective will or even any

518
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Speaker 1: interest to address major college football issues that they had

519
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 1: decades to preemptively handle. And this part isn't news because

520
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: they've been at this for a while now. I even

521
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Speaker 1: had to testify in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee

522
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Speaker 1: like four years ago about name image and likeness and

523
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Speaker 1: how there could be some guardrails put in place.

524
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Speaker 2: And you know what came of that.

525
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Speaker 1: The NC DOUBA spent over one hundred million dollars fighting

526
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Speaker 1: name image and likeness. And that's not even talking about

527
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Speaker 1: the Edo Bannon case and the Austin versus the NC

528
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: DOUBLEA as well. But the major headline from the roundtable

529
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Speaker 1: is that the goat himself, Nick Saban, took to the

530
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Speaker 1: podium ton and his voice and opinions to repairing the

531
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Speaker 1: greatest game on earth, because to me, the biggest questions

532
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: around in college football right now is how do we

533
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: keep the pageantry, regionality, and the greatness of the game

534
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: while understanding that the old model where the exchange of

535
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: a scholarship for your talent is an unfair exchange now

536
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: and requesting that fans shoulder the burton for a pay

537
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: per play model that came out of a lack of

538
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Speaker 1: uniform nil legislation that's unsustainable. But the question is is

539
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Speaker 1: Nick saving the best man to lead us on a

540
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Speaker 1: journey to save college football. Maybe there are some pros

541
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Speaker 1: and some cons. Now on the pro side, you're not

542
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 1: going to find a more respected voice that's going to

543
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Speaker 1: be able to weigh in, especially one that has been

544
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Speaker 1: pro player rights and has been open in recent years

545
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Speaker 1: to a revenue sharing model, but has also been staunchly

546
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Speaker 1: against the pitfalls of an employer employee relationship between the

547
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: schools and athletes that might actually backfire and erase some

548
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: of current student athletes protections. Now, on the other end,

549
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: his experience recruiting by athletes in the NIL era at

550
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: the pinnacle of all programs, Alabama isn't necessarily relatable to

551
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: most of the six hundred and fifty plus member institutions

552
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Speaker 1: that actually carry football.

553
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Speaker 2: Because Nick Saban spent.

554
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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty three making thirty two thousand dollars every single

555
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Speaker 1: day before endorsements, and honestly, for how big of an

556
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Speaker 1: impact Saban has in Tuscaloosa and on the business of

557
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: college football in general, that salary was probably a bargain.

558
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: But his winning ways correlated with his ability to get

559
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: a good chunk of the country's best players.

560
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Speaker 2: And this is America.

561
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Speaker 1: Once players were legally allowed to explore the monetary market

562
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: what it was for their skill set that old capitalist

563
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: virtue of competition came into play. Because sometimes it's hard

564
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Speaker 1: to process the irony of being a country where we're

565
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Speaker 1: raised to believe that competition provides the greatest economic good

566
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Speaker 1: for the consumer and the same country where we celebrate

567
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 1: meritocracy of sport and the reward of out competing an opponent.

568
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Speaker 1: But it's competitive economic forces that are ruining our favorite sport.

569
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Speaker 1: Make it make sense, But back to Nick Saban, his

570
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: alma mater, Kent State, it ain't having these caviar problems,

571
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 1: and our concerns should be with the greatest good for

572
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: all of student athletes, not just the high profile athletes

573
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Speaker 1: and coaches at the high profile programs. Because Saban might

574
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: be the best and most effective voice on these issues,

575
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: but he, for show, is not the most relatable. And

576
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: Nick Saban's sticking point about college football not being a

577
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: traditional business because every penny generated has to be spent

578
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 1: just doesn't hold water, especially when we know that those

579
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: pennies got spent on him, his assistance the business, his

580
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: boosters run the administrator's salaries and the school facilities. Just

581
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 1: because an operation carries a title of nonprofit doesn't mean

582
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: that there aren't blatantly obvious examples of profiteering.

583
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: And the kids aren't stupid. They see it.

584
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: They see the cars their coaches drive, the vacations they take,

585
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: the jobs they leave for, the commercials they start in,

586
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: and then the bonuses that they collect, the reward for

587
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: the players on the field performing well that the players

588
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: don't participate it. Now the players have begun to hold

589
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: up a mirror to the environment that they've been forced

590
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: to participate in, and the adults in the room don't

591
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: like the image that they're staring at. But none of

592
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: the people that have been benefiting from the system for

593
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: decades have volunteered at all to surrender any of the

594
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 1: benefits that they've accrued in the name of saving the

595
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: sport that they love. And the athletes see it too. Look,

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of the same concerns that the

597
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: coaches do. College football would be a better and more

598
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: sustainable product if kids were able to worry about focusing

599
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: on being developed at their school of choice by coaches

600
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: that were incentivized to develop them instead of take whatever

601
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: portal shortcut is available to increase their own odds at

602
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: an immediate payday for themselves. But the system was broken

603
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: before the players even had the chance to participate in it,

604
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: and the only way for it is to bring players

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00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: to the table, allow them to negotiate contract and sharing

606
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: the revenue their efforts helped generate. And until we're ready

607
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: to have that conversation, college football will continue to look

608
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: like the auction draft the same way that it always

609
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: has been for the coaches and administrators that have never

610
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: once complained about.

611
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: How it benefits them.

612
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: So when coaches sit up here, oh name gen likeness,

613
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: the transfer portal is ruining college football. How because it's

614
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: coaches leaving that keeps the portal open. Every time a

615
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: head coach leaves and ghosts take an NFL job, a

616
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: coordinator job, or a different job at a different school,

617
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: nobody cares about the promises that were broken. Nobody cares

618
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: about the buyout and the contract that was in place.

619
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: No, they don't.

620
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Speaker 1: And Nick Saban said, all the things that I believed

621
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: in all of these years fifty years of coaching no

622
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: longer exist in college athletics.

623
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what else didn't exist fifty years ago.

624
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: You didn't have fifteen to seventy five million dollar golden

625
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: parachutes for coaches that got fired.

626
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: You didn't fifty years ago have coaches.

627
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: That had a good, solid job bouncing to a lateral

628
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: job because it paid more money. So we keep looking

629
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: at the players as the problem, but the reality is

630
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: the coaches, administrators and the NCAA are the people that

631
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: allow this to happen. They knew with the new TV

632
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: money and everybody's salary is going up that when once

633
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: state's enacted nil loss, you knew, and players figured out, oh,

634
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: they're building new stadiums, coaches are getting raises, everybody. It

635
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: is a for profit business for everybody except for the player.

636
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: And the players are like, holdup, we're the ones who

637
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: are out there on the field. And that's the most

638
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: Unamerican thing that we've seen is that everywhere else, in

639
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: every other line of work, the people that have a

640
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: hand in generating the revenue get to participate in the

641
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: revenue and there is freedom and players transferring three four times.

642
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: Is that good for them graduating and is it good

643
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: for them having some stable relationships and networking while they're

644
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: in college, which is one of the best parts about it. No,

645
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: it's terrible for it, but there will be a market

646
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: correction the same way that there is for everything else.

647
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: But one of the biggest things that needs to happen,

648
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,719
Speaker 1: and maybe Nick Saban is the guy that lead us

649
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,719
Speaker 1: out of it, is that name, image and likeness needs

650
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: to be put on front street, the contracts, everything else.

651
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: That way, the schools, the collectives, everybody else has to

652
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: uphold those deals and can't be making shadowy promises that

653
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: they're not going to keep. And also the players are

654
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: being held to a standard as well. Let that sink in.

655
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: I don't believe that all publicity is good publicity in

656
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: every area of life, but in the case of women's

657
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: college basketball, that brawl that happened between LSU and South Carolina,

658
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: it might be one of the best things that ever

659
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: happened to a sport that's already rocking.

660
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 2: Into the moon.

661
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: As far as public interest, it's actually insane to think

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Speaker 1: about the fact that we're living in an age where

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Speaker 1: the most ellen college hoopers by far are in the

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Speaker 1: women's game. And I'm not saying that in any sexist way.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that there's a whole lot of cottage industry

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Speaker 1: built around hyping up young male basketball players because our

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Speaker 1: society is obsessed.

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Speaker 2: With finding who's the next chosen one.

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Speaker 1: Now the women haven't had that, and yet they're still

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Speaker 1: dominating the conversation right now because when it comes to

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Speaker 1: men's basketball, the game's international appeal has led to a

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Speaker 1: large portion of the NBA's best players coming from overseas

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Speaker 1: instead of the college game. And now you have guys

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Speaker 1: like Perdue Zach Edy, who's set to collect his second

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Speaker 1: consecutive Nate Smith Award, who probably won't even be an

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Speaker 1: NBA lottery pick in twenty twenty four, but the best

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Speaker 1: players in the women's college game are going to be

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Speaker 1: your top picks in the WNBA draft. The NBA would

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Speaker 1: absolutely kill to have ready made stars that the WNBA

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Speaker 1: is about to have. And now you have arguably the

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Speaker 1: two best teams brawling it out on the court. Lord,

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Speaker 1: have mercy inject this into my veins, because I can't

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Speaker 1: decide if I want to see LSU in South Carolina

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Speaker 1: meet for the championship or if I want to see

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Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark, and I will run up against both of

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Speaker 1: those squads and to Don Staley and Kim Mulki, two

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Speaker 1: of the absolute greatest characters in all of basketball right now,

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Speaker 1: despite it being the right thing to do, there was

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Speaker 1: no reason to apologize for the basketball watching community for

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Speaker 1: your young lady's emotions.

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Speaker 2: And you could tell that Kim Molkie, she.

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Speaker 1: Didn't even mean that apology anyway, saying that she wished

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Speaker 1: Camilla Cardozo had actually pushed andrel reees instead of five

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Speaker 1: ten flaw J Johnson now to quote Monique though I

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Speaker 1: would like to see it, but to Flawj's brother, who

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Speaker 1: was not only arrested for jumping the scorers table, but

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Speaker 1: also look scared for his life when he realized just

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Speaker 1: how big Cardozo is. I just hope that he has

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Speaker 1: a comfortable couch because that's where he's gonna be watching

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Speaker 1: the games run from now on, Buddy, Because whether it's

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Speaker 1: LSU making a deep run, or South Carolina or the

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Speaker 1: Iowa haw guys or super freshman Juju Watkins at USC,

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Speaker 1: you know I'm going to be watching, and so will you.

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Speaker 1: And I can't wait to see what heroes and villains

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Speaker 1: emerged throughout the rest of the tournament field.

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Speaker 2: Because ESPN genius move when.

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Speaker 1: They got the tournament rights, it was some doctor Strange

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Speaker 1: level foresight. And you just know that the WNBA is

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Speaker 1: gonna benefit from all this added attention. I'm talking TV rights,

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Speaker 1: league expansion, commercial success for a players.

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Speaker 2: It is all on the horizon.

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Speaker 1: So if you're one of them people that's been too

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Speaker 1: cool to embrace the women's game because you just not

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Speaker 1: just need my players to dunk, there's still time for

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Speaker 1: you to repent and enjoy the next few.

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Speaker 2: Weeks with the rest of us, and that's the Unafraid Show.

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