1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to Before Breakfast, a production of iHeartRadio. Good Morning, 2 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: This is Laura. Welcome to the Before Breakfast podcast. Today's 3 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: tip is to work smart when working after hours. Make 4 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: sure you know what you are trying to accomplish so 5 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: you can get done and move on with your day. 6 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: One of the most unfortunate work life narratives out there 7 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: is that big jobs inevitably require long hours. Long hours 8 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: mean you will never see your kids. Thus, many parents 9 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: and mothers in particular just won't be or shouldn't be 10 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: in the running now. This is obviously a problematic thing 11 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: for organizations to believe, as they cut themselves off from 12 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: a lot of great leaders. But it's also a problematic 13 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: thing for individual parents to believe, since people limit their 14 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: ambitions when everyone seems to be screaming that no one 15 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: can have it all. But it turns out there is 16 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: a lot wrong with this story. Sure, plenty of jobs 17 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: require more than forty hours a week, but in my 18 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: experience looking at thousands of time logs, very few people 19 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: log more than sixty hours a week averaged over the 20 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: long haul. Even more intriguingly, many people who work long 21 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: hours do not work those hours from say seven thirty 22 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: am to seven thirty pm, which would preclude seeing their 23 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: young kids during the week. A little creativity means people 24 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: can work long hours and see their families. When I 25 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: collected time logs from women who had kids and who 26 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: made over one hundred thousand dollars a year for my book, 27 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: I know how she does it. I found many moved 28 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: work hours around to preserve family time. The most common 29 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: method was what I started calling a split shift. Here's 30 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,399 Speaker 1: how it works. You end work at a reasonable time, 31 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: however you define that. Let's say five pm or so. 32 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: You hang out with your family, including young kids who 33 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: go to bed relatively early. Maybe they are in bed 34 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: at seven thirty pm or so. Then, at least a 35 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: few nights a week, you do more work after the 36 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: kids go to bed. You split your shift some during 37 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: the day, some at night. Working from eight pm to 38 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: ten pm is the same as working from five pm 39 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: to seven pm, only in the former world. You are 40 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: trading off work time for TV time instead of work 41 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: time for famly time. That is a trade off a 42 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: lot more people are willing to make. I found that 43 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: about half the women in my study worked such a 44 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: split shift at least once a week. Or its cousin 45 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: working from say five am to seven am in the 46 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: morning before the kids got up. Of course, you'll notice 47 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: that I said working from eight pm to ten pm. 48 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: I did not say working from eight pm to some 49 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: undefined time in the middle of the night. Someone recently 50 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: sent me a note saying the split shift should come 51 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,279 Speaker 1: with a warning label to make sure people use it responsibly. 52 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: So here it is. We all sometimes work outside traditional hours, 53 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: but if you do plan to work after hours, be 54 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: that at night or in the early morning, or on 55 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: what are supposed to be your days off, you should 56 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: be intentional about it. That means creating a defined list 57 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: of what you intend to get through. The most obvious 58 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: choices are those things that actually have to get done 59 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: for tomorrow. Prepping for meetings, answering an important email you 60 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: didn't get to before five pm, finishing up a proposal 61 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: you plan to submit the next day. This list should 62 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: be short and reasonable. You would not get through a 63 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: one thousand email backlog between nine am and five pm, 64 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: and you won't from eight pm to ten pm, either, 65 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,239 Speaker 1: so don't set that as a goal. Create your list, 66 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: and then when you are done, sign off. Indeed, I 67 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: would suggest giving yourself a strict time limit for your 68 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: split shift to force efficiencies. If you go to bed 69 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: at eleven PM, working from eight to ten allows you 70 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: to have thirty minutes of leisure and then thirty minutes 71 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: to get ready for bed and wind down. Or maybe 72 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: you could just do ninety minutes of work and have 73 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: an hour for reading or crafting. Or I'd also suggest 74 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: not automatically doing a split shift. The truth is that 75 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: most people only do it a few nights per week. 76 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 1: The most common scenario is two to three nights per week. 77 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: Four is pretty much the max. So I'm not really 78 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: concerned about this, but don't do a split shift just 79 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: to do it. Maybe on Tuesdays you normally sit back 80 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: down to work, but if you don't actually have any 81 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: work that needs to get done for the next day, 82 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: you don't have to work. You can just be done. 83 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: It's okay. When you have intentions and you keep your 84 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: list short, then a split shift can be a great 85 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: way to have it all a big career and time 86 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: with your family. When it gets out of control, it 87 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: can feel like life is no fun. So if you 88 00:05:55,480 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: are working after hours, it's important to work smart In 89 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: the meantime. This is Laura. Thanks for listening and here's 90 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: to making the most of our time. Hey everybody, I'd 91 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: love to hear from you. You can send me your tips, 92 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: your questions, or anything else. Just connect with me on Twitter, 93 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: Facebook and Instagram at Before Breakfast Pod. That's b E 94 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: the number four then Breakfast pod. You can also shoot 95 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: me an email at Before Breakfast podcast at iHeartMedia dot 96 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: com that Before Breakfast is spelled out with all the letters. 97 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: Thanks so much. 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