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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys blowing out of the backfield, exploding down the sidelines.

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Speaker 2: This he is Hanging with the Boys, presented by wing

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Speaker 2: Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts Nate Newton,

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Speaker 2: Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross Shooting.

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Speaker 3: Thursday one four. A little late today, Hey, little tardy,

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Speaker 3: and that can mean only one thing. It's time for

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Speaker 3: the people show Hanging with the boys. You're looking live

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Speaker 3: at a warm Tostedos Championship Plaza outside Ford Center at

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Speaker 3: the Star in Frisco, Texas, where high school graduation is

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Speaker 3: taking place this week inside the Star, multiple graduations per night. Kurt,

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Speaker 3: we'll talk about that here in a little bit that

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Speaker 3: holds a very special place in your heart this weekend

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Speaker 3: and your home. It is eighty four degrees, it feels

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Speaker 3: like ninety one. The high is eighty eight, the low

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Speaker 3: is sixty eight.

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Speaker 4: It was gonna be sixty nine. Close. He is Shennon.

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Speaker 5: In the back is Chris. This is Kurt. Three pumps Daniels.

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Speaker 5: I am Salt and Pepper Poppy. We're without Nate today.

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Speaker 5: Who knows where Nate is at, But I am Salt

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Speaker 5: and Pepper Poppy. Together we make hanging with the boys

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Speaker 5: the sports talk equivalent of brow people.

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Speaker 4: When we speak.

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Speaker 3: Brought to you each and every show by Wing Stop

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Speaker 3: where Flavorite gets its Wei.

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Speaker 6: How we doing today?

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Speaker 4: Good man?

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Speaker 7: Good.

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Speaker 4: I'm ready for the week to be over, though, are you? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm just ready.

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Speaker 6: I'm ready for a little weekend action, little holiday weekend.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, a little rest, relaxation.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, nothing, nothing on the agenda, just rest.

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Speaker 7: But you, Kurt, Yeah, graduations not this week, and they're

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Speaker 7: coming up. It's coming up, so yeah.

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Speaker 3: Let us know when it is because it's a big moment.

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Speaker 3: So it's a very momentous moment in your life.

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Speaker 6: It's the last one.

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Speaker 7: Youngest, finally graduating high school.

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Speaker 6: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna work on number six after this, No.

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Speaker 4: Crazy, you start all over again.

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Speaker 5: Work practice, practice makes perfect, praknice makes perfect.

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Speaker 7: All right, No, it will be a celebration for my

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Speaker 7: wife and I.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, every going around the house naked.

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Speaker 7: No, but we got the last one out of high school.

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Speaker 4: Let's go.

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Speaker 6: Congratulations. When is that? I got two weeks?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? Well, his last school days tomorrow with graduations another

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, well good, good good, let's uh, since

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Speaker 3: we won't have a show before then.

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Speaker 4: I think that's something to say.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what it is. I think I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I feel like I had something I'm supposed to say.

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Speaker 5: Right after that, I lost my complete train of thought

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Speaker 3: Was thinking about, Kurt Neck and you just would like,

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Speaker 3: please might get out of my head, get clear, scramble

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Speaker 3: my brain all up right there, like Terry Bradshaw.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, naked.

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Speaker 3: Well, since we won't have a show before h Monday, uh,

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Speaker 3: Memorial Day, shout out to all the people who have

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Speaker 3: served and continue to serve. Great weekend to kick off

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Speaker 3: the summer. But don't forget what it's all about.

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Speaker 5: So shout out to my uncle Stanley, my uncle Burley,

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Speaker 5: both served in the military.

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Speaker 6: Uncle Burley, that's the hell of a name.

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Speaker 5: He looks like a brilly but like so you you

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Speaker 5: think grizzled, right, Yeah, no, it's Burley like it. It's

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Speaker 5: very sleek, really very very sleek, very smooth. Okay, forty

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Speaker 5: one years on this earth, I've never heard Uncle Burley

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Speaker 4: Really never.

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Speaker 7: I had to get the name Burley, that's literally his name.

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Speaker 4: It's notname. What branch of the military did they serve?

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Speaker 5: Uncle Stanley was in the army. Uncle uh, Uncle Brody

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so you've got it in your family.

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Speaker 3: You got history of politicians, you know, public service, their

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Speaker 3: do any of that, like any kind of public service?

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Speaker 4: I do do I did do a public service. What

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Speaker 4: do you do hanging with the boys? This is a

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Speaker 4: public service each and every week. I get to sit

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Speaker 3: Serve the government in some kind of government capacity.

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Speaker 4: I knew I couldn't do that. When my brother, my

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Speaker 5: Was going to be mayor, and I was sitting in

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Speaker 5: one of the little town hall meetings and.

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Speaker 4: They said on you know they sit on that what

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Speaker 4: was it called deos? What is it called that thing

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Speaker 4: that they.

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Speaker 5: Said, and you think, we know, go ahead, And I

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Speaker 5: watched them like just go at each other.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it got personal, and.

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Speaker 5: I'm like and then after it was over, they were

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh, I couldn't do this. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I have too much aggression to personal.

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Speaker 7: A lot of people would say, all these football players

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Speaker 7: every game there banging heads.

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Speaker 4: Yes, after her game, that's perfect, but you get it out.

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Speaker 4: I get it out. I get it you and you

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Speaker 4: insult me.

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Speaker 5: I insult you, you get you break physical body.

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Speaker 4: Harm to me.

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Speaker 5: I brief arm to you, and we're done, and we're done.

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Speaker 5: But you just can't say what you want to me.

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Speaker 5: And I hold it was like, yuck it up with

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Speaker 5: you afterwards? No, I never never you you wanted to

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Speaker 3: Like that, you know, I thought about I. I don't

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Speaker 3: know how close I came, but I really wanted to.

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Speaker 3: After nine to eleven, like I felt really motivated to

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Speaker 4: Patriot had that Pat Tillman look to you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, And I really wanted to do something.

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Speaker 3: But I was like when it kind of got time

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Speaker 6: Do it, I was like, Okay, this is a commitment.

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Speaker 3: I'm not good at commitment less a life commitment.

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Speaker 5: I'm too rationale for the like for the for the

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Speaker 5: armed services. Yeah, because like if you tell me, hey,

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Speaker 3: You would have you would have the biggest problem with

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Speaker 5: But okay, So here's the thing. I know that I

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Speaker 5: going to be like Green Beret, like the highest level

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Speaker 5: of like all in, all in, yeah, or I'm out

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Speaker 5: like I'm in, I'm discharged, kicking me out because I

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Speaker 5: was started asking questions like, wait, so what are you

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Speaker 5: You mean to tell me this I E what's called

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Speaker 5: I E d's uh these bombs?

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Speaker 4: I gotta go on first.

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Speaker 5: No, that's not gonna happen, Like, well that's in order,

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Speaker 5: not today, not today. Yeah, yeah, or I'm telling you.

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Speaker 5: Or I would have been like you know what, because

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Speaker 5: I know I can psych my mind out to go

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Speaker 5: to that level, And I would have been.

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Speaker 4: I would have been Chris Kyle.

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Speaker 6: You'd have been the machine.

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Speaker 4: I'd have been Chris Kyle.

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Speaker 7: You'd have been running down special teams units and bringing

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Speaker 4: M'd have been Chris. I would have been all the

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Speaker 6: Yeah, what about you? You ever think about doing all

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Speaker 7: Briefly. But yeah, sometimes I think because I you know,

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Speaker 7: you tell me what to do, I'll get it done,

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Speaker 7: you know, right, But it's kind of the same thing like, man.

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Speaker 6: I don't you know, I'm just a commitment.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a commitment and going over that hill, Yeah,

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Speaker 7: I'm not sure i'd be ready for that.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to everybody that, yeah, the guys that could

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Speaker 4: do it, thank you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you for I got them good, especially if

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Speaker 5: you get like one hundred percent of the benefits when

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Speaker 5: you're done. Oh yeah, I've got I got a homegirl

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Speaker 5: who's like one hundred percent like disabled vet.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, shout a nice house, Yeah, money down, tired.

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Speaker 3: I have a buddy that's he was a he was

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Speaker 3: a major, so he gets that major money and he's

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Speaker 3: still still does uh active, he's not active, but he

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Speaker 6: And he gets that.

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Speaker 5: If there's any cute young ladies has one hundred percent disabled,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they need the benefits. I need to be If

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Speaker 4: you're not coming with the benefits and I'm.

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Speaker 3: Good, maybe what you're give him your Twitter handle.

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Speaker 4: At mister fourth law. There you go. We can change it, though,

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Speaker 4: we can change could be I canna be at disabled

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Speaker 4: vet one ndred percent to the handles negotiations, A, it's all,

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, let's get to some football before we

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Speaker 3: wasting the first segment without Nate.

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Speaker 6: By the way, we have no idea where Nate is.

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Speaker 3: Jesse sent the group text this morning about seven thirty

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Speaker 3: so on the road.

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Speaker 4: He called me twice today. Yeah, called me twice today.

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Speaker 4: I didn't answer.

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Speaker 6: My feelings are hurt and he didn't call me. Do

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Speaker 6: he call you, Kurt? No, man call me? Oh see,

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Speaker 6: ch okay, we see, we see what we see.

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Speaker 4: What's always tell you if I don't have twenty minutes,

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Speaker 4: I don't answer.

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Speaker 6: True.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a it's a yeah.

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Speaker 6: You gotta have to drive.

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Speaker 4: That's one of those.

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Speaker 3: When I get in the car to go back home

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Speaker 3: from here, I'll call you back.

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Speaker 5: That's literally the plan. When I get in the car

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Speaker 5: to go home, I'm like, it's a good time to

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to the stars went in last night in

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Speaker 3: dramatic fashion.

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Speaker 4: Oh came back to me.

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Speaker 5: You just you just said that when you talk about

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Speaker 5: the fourth shout out to the to the Arlington Martin

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Speaker 5: young ladies who won the No Girls Flag football this

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Speaker 5: past Monday, we had it right here in the Ford Center.

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Speaker 5: Competitive game. It was De Soto versus Arlington Martin and

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Speaker 5: there was a championship game and it was a competitive game.

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Speaker 6: Breakout.

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Speaker 5: Not this time, not this time we had. We had good,

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Speaker 5: clean game. It was super competitive and Arlington Martin, man,

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Speaker 5: it was you know, that has been a joy. Like

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Speaker 5: I didn't know what to expect when Danny. When Danny

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Speaker 5: called and was like Danny McCrae, it was like, Bride

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Speaker 5: the championship game Monday night.

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Speaker 4: It was. It was a true, true treat to see it.

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Speaker 5: Girls got scholarships too, really yeah, Texas, Texas, Westland, Westland, Wesleyan, Musleyan, Wesleyan. Uh,

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Speaker 5: that you don't have to make.

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Speaker 7: She's done that in the past.

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Speaker 5: What she's done that in the past, And that's a

452
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Speaker 5: part of why some of that leadership stuff have come

453
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Speaker 5: down on his head in a negative way.

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Speaker 4: This I championed this pay me.

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Speaker 7: It's good, it's good for Micah, but is it good

456
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Speaker 7: for the team and in the culture and all that

457
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Speaker 7: they're trying to do.

458
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Speaker 3: Does it help him develop does it help you bond

459
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Speaker 3: just being around?

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Speaker 5: And if he's here though, like he is here, right,

461
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Speaker 5: he's in the building. You know, he's doing stuff in

462
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Speaker 5: the locker room. I'm sure they talked about the ping

463
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Speaker 5: pong tables in the locker room. I'm sure MICA's competitive.

464
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Speaker 5: He's on the ping pong table, and he's in the

465
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Speaker 5: group chat and he's in the lunch room and he's

466
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Speaker 5: sitting in some meetings and so all that. Like when

467
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Speaker 5: he's here, he's here, he's just not on the field here,

468
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Speaker 5: So the camaraderie is being built. But if we're being

469
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Speaker 5: completely honest, we don't care about that.

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Speaker 4: We don't. That's them thing we want to know.

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Speaker 5: Is it gonna work on I should say Thursdays now,

472
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Speaker 5: and I was gonna say Sunday, but they play all

473
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Speaker 5: the day and Thursday night games. Now, is it gonna

474
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Speaker 5: work on game day? That's what That's all we care about,

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Speaker 5: whether you're whether you're bonding or kumba yai, and it's

476
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Speaker 5: coming together and y'all have the culture that you want.

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Speaker 5: I do think culture is important. I think it's a

478
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Speaker 5: component of it. But winning, winning is what we look for.

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Speaker 5: From Micah dak CD, d ron Bland, you name the name.

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Speaker 5: If they're in a uniform. That's the part that we

481
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Speaker 5: care about. Great, you're playing ping pong. I think there

482
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Speaker 5: are some good that come out of ping pong. It's

483
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Speaker 5: a competitive it gets competitive, it keeps you here. Just

484
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Speaker 5: another forty five minutes to learn that guy across from you,

485
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Speaker 5: to have that moment across from you, and in those moments,

486
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Speaker 5: anything can happen. Anything can happen in the sense of

487
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Speaker 5: a ping pong game instead of me just getting my

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Speaker 5: stuff out of practice and bouncing and I know that

489
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Speaker 5: we're not having any interaction. That means there is a

490
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Speaker 5: zero chance that anything can develop there. A ping pong

491
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Speaker 5: game now means it starts off at ping pong and

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Speaker 5: the next thing, you know, you're giving your testimony and

493
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Speaker 5: now we're now we're sharing something spiritually, or you're giving

494
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Speaker 5: an idea or thought or where you come from or

495
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Speaker 5: whatever it is. And now there's a way of interacting

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Speaker 5: because of around.

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Speaker 4: The ping pong table. Yeah, so I get that part.

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Speaker 5: But great, I know that you like this or I

499
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Speaker 5: know that you do that.

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Speaker 4: That's great for y'all.

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Speaker 6: Is that gonna get me three extra sacks for us.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what we're looking for is does whatever y'all doing

503
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Speaker 5: over there.

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Speaker 6: Translate to equate to us winning games?

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Speaker 4: Winning games?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's what we're gonna see. With all

507
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Speaker 7: this talk about culture and the ping pong table and

508
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Speaker 7: the basketball hoop and the dinners and everything, it all

509
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Speaker 7: sounds really good, but man, if they don't, if they're

510
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 7: not winning, we're all gonna look back and say, man,

511
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Speaker 7: they were spending too much time playing ping pong table.

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Speaker 4: What are you doing?

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Speaker 5: And it's not exclusive to the Dallas cow Boys, right,

514
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 5: It's it's it's exclusive to just about any team sport,

515
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Speaker 5: to the Cincinnati Bengals, to the Dallas Stars, to the

516
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Speaker 5: Texas Rangers, to the FC.

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Speaker 4: You know, by the team, it's it's it's it's It's.

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Speaker 5: Not a thing where culture is trying to be built

519
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Speaker 5: justin Cowboy Nation. It's trying to be building every thirty

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Speaker 5: other two other teams in the league.

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Speaker 3: But you know what I like about all these things,

522
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Speaker 3: and I wish I wish Nate was here today to

523
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Speaker 3: talk about this.

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Speaker 4: It's exactly what you said.

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Speaker 3: It's getting guys to hang out just a little bit longer,

526
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Speaker 3: especially in this day and age where everybody's quick too,

527
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Speaker 3: I think will quick to get out of here and

528
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Speaker 3: go unplug, or go get on social media, or go

529
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Speaker 3: game or do whatever. That extra fifteen to twenty minutes

530
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Speaker 3: turns into what you said. And you do that multiple

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Speaker 3: times over the course of the off season and even

532
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Speaker 3: during the season that on that on game day, you're

533
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Speaker 3: gonna play a little bit harder for that guy that.

534
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Speaker 5: You wonder why Danny can call me and whatever's on

535
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Speaker 5: the other side of the phone, I'm there because y'all

536
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 5: spent that time, the time together, we were in the

537
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Speaker 5: fox hole together. I knew that running down there. He

538
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Speaker 5: had my back, he knew that running down I have

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Speaker 5: a picture.

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Speaker 4: I want to say it was Thanksgiving. We played the Saints.

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Speaker 5: What was the Roy william Roy Williams fumble the slant

542
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Speaker 5: he's going to the house. I think it was Thanksgiving,

543
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Speaker 5: played the Saints, and I have a picture in my

544
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Speaker 5: home as I'm making Roggie Bush fumble on a punt

545
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Speaker 5: return and you know who's right over it, Like who's

546
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Speaker 5: right behind me? Danny McCrae, Like literally like I'm you

547
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 5: see me swiping down, punching the ball out and Danny's

548
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Speaker 5: literally right there in the frame. That's why he can

549
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Speaker 5: call me. That's why I know what I'm like. Oh,

550
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Speaker 5: he looks over me and he goes, hey, Jay, Holly,

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Speaker 5: you take you go this time.

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Speaker 4: I don't. I don't want to do it, but I

553
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Speaker 4: got you. It's that happens in there, right, And.

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Speaker 6: You don't do that if you don't know that.

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Speaker 3: I personally right and that And that's what Nate always

556
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Speaker 3: talks about, is they did in the nineties.

557
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Speaker 6: They did stuff together.

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Speaker 3: They stayed at the facility, they played dominoes, they played cards,

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Speaker 3: and I think I'm here in the White House back

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Speaker 3: but I'm interested to see because you're right, Kurt, like,

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Speaker 3: it's it sounds great in theory, but unless it translates

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Speaker 3: on game day, like.

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Speaker 4: What are we doing?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so it's gonna be questioned.

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Speaker 3: And this is this is I feel like this is

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Speaker 3: the biggest coaching personality swing by just the things that

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Speaker 3: are happening and the interactions and the few things that

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Speaker 3: we've seen between the time of Schottenheimer getting hired until now,

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Speaker 3: Like it's a big, huge philosophy change. So it'll be

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Speaker 3: interested to see if it if it translates on game day,

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Speaker 3: all right, Let's take our next break. When we come back,

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Speaker 3: I'm off the market.

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Speaker 6: Saw they were too late.

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Speaker 7: They missed, they missed the window.

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Speaker 4: We't hear about that. Alright, off the air.

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Speaker 5: All right, okay, now we got two three pumps in

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Speaker 5: the Hey, two was good?

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Speaker 4: Three gets your flag?

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Speaker 6: We go there you go. Do you think.

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Speaker 3: The folks on the other side of the building listen

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Speaker 3: to the show?

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Speaker 6: Because and I wish Nate was. And this is a

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Speaker 6: terrible show for Nate to.

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Speaker 3: Miss because it looks like Booker is working immediately with

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Speaker 3: the starters and getting reps. And that's something I know

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Speaker 3: Nate has been happened standing on the table. If you

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Speaker 3: draft a guy in the first round, let him play right.

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Speaker 3: You've you've jumped in on that too. Jesse Goidon was

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Speaker 3: taking second team.

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Speaker 6: Reps at the beginning last year.

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Speaker 3: Is this a is this that Booker is that much

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Speaker 3: better of a talent or is this a change in

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Speaker 3: philosophy in your opinion, Jesse to wear you drafted him

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Speaker 3: in the first round, give him all the reps, get

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Speaker 3: him through training camp, and then and then make your decision.

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Speaker 5: I think it's a change of philosophy. Gen Giton was

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Speaker 5: a project to start with. I think Booker is a

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Speaker 5: is a short shot. And the guy that's you know,

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Speaker 5: nothing against Brock. You know Abby, we weize all you want,

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Speaker 5: my boy, have one go at it, get a handful,

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Speaker 5: but this is superior talent. There was a reason you

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Speaker 5: were drafted where you were drafted. There was a reason

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Speaker 5: why he was drafted where he was drafted.

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Speaker 4: Talent ain't the same. And so.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they can see that. Well they're not going to

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Speaker 7: mess around.

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Speaker 4: With Let's get him in there, like time is of

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Speaker 4: the essence. Let's get him in here.

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Speaker 5: Let's know what the hell we got so that we

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Speaker 5: I don't want to start having to make os adjustments

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Speaker 5: in August. Let's make the adjustments now. If we look

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Speaker 5: up and we go, oh, oh, we wanted to get

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Speaker 5: a veteran in here, because this kid's not it's not

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Speaker 5: it's not computing and whether that be because you already

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Speaker 5: know whatever techniques you learned at Bama are gonna be

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Speaker 5: different here. Not saying everything, but every coach has their

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Speaker 5: different styles. You know what I prefer hands to be in.

668
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Speaker 5: I prefer for you to punch. Now, I prefer.

669
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 7: It right Booker because and he's switching sides from right guard,

670
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 7: I mean from left guard to right guard. So I

671
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 7: guess I'm saying there's stuff to learn.

672
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 5: There's not to learn, and you want to just make

673
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 5: sure that in that learning process that we get every

674
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 5: opportunity to properly evaluate the talent. And now after this

675
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 5: ota is done, guess what, I sit Booker out and

676
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 5: I said, man.

677
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 4: Let's let's let's let's watch some of these cutups.

678
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 5: Okay here you're going up against here that you know, Hey,

679
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 5: let's let's get that Kickilate got a little bit more. Now,

680
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 5: when you know, you get some pads on. We had

681
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 5: a little bit more, and we just continue to break

682
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,719
Speaker 5: this thing down. But you're allowed to see the consistent

683
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 5: process of a player, and I think that that will

684
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 5: allow you to get the training camp and when the

685
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 5: pads come on and you go get a little bit

686
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 5: of competition. You won't have as many questions, you won't

687
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 5: have as many unknown questions about the player. You'll be

688
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 5: able to go in and say all right, because I'm

689
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 5: sure they still do the same thing and correct me

690
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 5: if I'm wrong, Chris. But normally when you leave after

691
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 5: mini camps and you go away, they send you a letter,

692
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 5: they tell you what can't reporting time. They may do

693
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 5: an email. Now they may not do the paper letter anymore,

694
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 5: but you have, you know, the things that you're supposed

695
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 5: to weigh in at and that kind of stuff and

696
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 5: all the traveling information. But your coach also sends you

697
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 5: a little note and say, hey, continue to work on A,

698
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 5: B and C, you know, because we saw that over

699
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 5: time and now we're heading in the training camp and

700
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 5: we want to make sure that you're sharp in those things.

701
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 5: So wherever you're going, make sure that you're working on

702
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 5: these specific things that we think you need to improve

703
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 5: on or can improve on to help your game, to

704
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 5: help us when we get this thing really rocking and rolling.

705
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 7: So we've talked about Micah being here in some form

706
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 7: and fashion. We've talked about Booker is now being here

707
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 7: and he's in there. What do you think about Treyvon

708
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 7: Diggs doing his rehab away from the facility. He is

709
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 7: not at the Star now and this is the same

710
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 7: thing he did last year. And I don't think people

711
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 7: are real happy about that. But is it kind of

712
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 7: a deal, Like players are like, yeah, he can do

713
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 7: what he do orre they like he should be here again.

714
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 5: Another situation where players don't care. Really, they don't care

715
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 5: where he works out at. But the hope is that

716
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 5: he's working. Yeah, that's the hope. I don't say that, Jesse,

717
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 5: I'm getting better at that, why are you?

718
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say that.

719
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 5: But let's just say that there are maybe people in

720
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 5: this building that are happy days probably somewhere else working

721
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 5: out because of the things in the past, that he

722
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 5: is not one of the best workers when it comes

723
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 5: to rehab, that he doesn't always show up, that he

724
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 5: doesn't always put in the best effort, and it becomes

725
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 5: more of a headache than than to help to rehab

726
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 5: him and get him back on the field.

727
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 4: But as a player, nah, well, we get upset. Is

728
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 4: if you come back and now you're not ready, that's

729
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 4: when we get upset.

730
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 5: That's when we like, damn, bro well, you're just in

731
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 5: Miami and Miami in or were you actually in there working?

732
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 5: Because we look at we we we're looking for you

733
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 5: to be ready to go when it's time for us

734
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 5: to go, because having another corner out there where we're

735
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 5: short at that position will help our defense out, will

736
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 5: help our team out. But if you down there and

737
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 5: you just being you, you know what I'm saying, You

738
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 5: down there slinking that thing and ain't really putting in

739
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 5: the work, Well, now you hurt us when you could

740
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 5: have been in Dallas.

741
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 4: You could have came on back to Dallas.

742
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 5: Worked out at the Star and at least been doing

743
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 5: the right thing. But now I'm not saying that he's

744
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 5: doing that. I'm just saying that's that's when we beginning

745
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 5: to care. That's when that's when you hear the frustrations

746
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 5: come from players and the leaders of the team. Is

747
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 5: when somebody's as away doing rehab and they come back

748
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden they're likely wouldn't even really rehabit.

749
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 5: I know that we get the videos and we got

750
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 5: the documentary stuff coming out, but that don't I mean,

751
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 5: I remember I remember Gronk. I mean this a couple

752
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 5: of years ago when Gronk was playing, Gronk went in

753
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 5: the backyard and he was sending these videos to Coach Belichick,

754
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 5: like of showing him like, Eh, I'm home and I'm

755
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 5: working out. Gronk later admitted that he went in the

756
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 5: backyard and he brought three or four different shirts, and

757
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 5: he said he just ran a couple of drills in

758
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 5: one shirt, took off, put another shirt. He could have

759
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 5: multiple days of it because he was like, man, I'm

760
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 5: not working out every day, but I'll just keep saying

761
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 5: I'll keep making these multiple different shirt videos, sending them in.

762
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 5: He was like, I'll dress it up and we'll put

763
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 5: water on my head, got out here.

764
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 4: With the sweating.

765
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 5: He's like, I got three different shirts on, and I

766
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 5: was sending videos, you know, periodically to Coach Belichick to

767
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 5: let him know that I'm out head working When it

768
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 5: was all just a skit that he did in fifteen

769
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 5: twenty minutes.

770
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 6: I think that was during COVID.

771
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 12: They were, yeah, they weren't in the building, so they

772
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 12: have to send in their workouts of the team, and

773
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 12: he would do them all on one day, different outfits.

774
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: Chris, you would know this hell. Jesse you and Kirk

775
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 3: might know this. Dax seems like he's a full go

776
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 3: of practice. Pickens is out there. What do we know

777
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 3: what number he's wearing.

778
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 6: For now? Right, I don't know if that's in stone

779
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 6: is gonna stick?

780
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 7: He said, it's not decided, not decided yet.

781
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 6: They have to give him a number though, Right, so

782
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 6: he had thirteen.

783
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 3: Somebody else on the team's got thirteen. But there's also

784
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 3: multiple numbers because you got so many guys, right.

785
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 4: A couple of sevens out there too, right, Yeah, so.

786
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 6: We don't know. There's no final official word on what now.

787
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 4: Marquis Bell conversation. Nothing to start to twenty five.

788
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 5: K Now, if you feel you're about to get cut,

789
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 5: take it down a little bit.

790
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 4: You'll you get that, get that out?

791
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you got like denzelm But Denzel said, I'm

792
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 5: from around the way. I'm leaving here with something. You

793
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 5: gotta leave here with something. Mark, He's all right. If

794
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 5: you feel like, you know, if you feel like will

795
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 5: McLay and company replace you.

796
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 3: Take take ten, take that discount, Take ten and a

797
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 3: steak dinner.

798
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, take ten, Take a take a mile vacation or

799
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 5: whatever you can get your hands on. Don't leave here

800
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 5: with be like Denzel, I'm leaving here with something from

801
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 5: around the way.

802
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 6: My boy, Chris, this will affect you a little bit.

803
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 6: How do you feel about the Cowboys.

804
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: Uh being on the NFC East version of Hard Knocks.

805
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure Coach Schottenheimer's probably like, are you kidding me?

806
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 6: Like, like, you're gonna have.

807
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 3: Cameras in every single room in this place my first

808
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 3: year and it's all gonna be database somewhere when I'm trying.

809
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 7: To no distractions.

810
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, none at all.

811
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 3: You know, they'll have a whole crew out of training

812
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 3: camp and all that horse aren't up right?

813
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 6: How do you feel about it?

814
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 3: Crew?

815
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 6: Who?

816
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 12: My knowledge, the way that NFL films works that is

817
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 12: they have a single crew that goes that will be

818
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 12: at the facility, meaning like a camera guy on a

819
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 12: guy and a producer.

820
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 6: Three people.

821
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 12: I mean, they'll do the they'll do the team meeting

822
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 12: room and stuff like that.

823
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 6: They'll put the you know, robotics in there.

824
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 12: But I think it's a very minimal crew because it's

825
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 12: through four teams, so they.

826
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 6: Don't have forty people on the night. Like, no, it's

827
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 6: not training huge. You know, when we did a couple

828
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 6: of years back. Remember it was all or nothing, was right,

829
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 6: all or nothing? It was during the season.

830
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 12: Yes, that crew is basically the same crew that does

831
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 12: the Hard Knocks, gotcha.

832
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 6: So it won't be too invasive. It won't be as

833
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 6: invasive as you think it would be.

834
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 5: Is there's something that you want to see during this

835
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 5: Hard Knocks for the Cowboys, me, all of us, everybody.

836
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 4: I liked.

837
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 6: I like the program. I like the behind the scenes access.

838
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 4: I like the program. I love it. No, nothing I

839
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 4: like that. I like those.

840
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 6: You know what I want to see? I want to

841
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 6: see who George who Pickens really is.

842
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 4: You know, I was just thinking because you know, he said, you.

843
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 6: Know, what have I really done?

844
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 3: You see me get pissed off on game day, which

845
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 3: you know he kind of gets a bad rap.

846
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 6: Right, It's been a long time since.

847
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 3: We've had a wide receiver with some attitude since deads Right,

848
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 3: We've gotten really spoiled around here because CD can be

849
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 3: a little bit of a diva, but he's not a

850
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 3: you know, he's not your wild, boisterous, loud in your face,

851
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 3: slinging his helmet got you know, and you mean, I

852
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 3: mean we No, Amara is just kind of like, you know,

853
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 3: throw me the ball. I'm just gonna sit over here,

854
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 3: like I ain't getting your face, like I'm just gonna

855
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 3: sit down, you know. And you know, even your backup

856
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 3: got like Tolbert, you know, Cedric Wilson, you had a

857
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 3: really quiet wide receiver room. And I'm not mad about

858
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 3: you know, I wasn't here the day that, you know,

859
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 3: the week that he got signed, and I missed out

860
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 3: on the whole conversation. But I'm not mad about having

861
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 3: somebody that's got that you have to sometimes calm down

862
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 3: on the sideline because he wants to be involved so much,

863
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 3: right So I'm but I'm interested to learn about him

864
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 3: as a person, because you know, you haven't got to

865
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 3: see him other than how the media portrays him and

866
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 3: what gets put out there, like and sometimes your perception is.

867
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 6: Both you know this both ways.

868
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 3: You're a darling in the media and in that locker

869
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 3: room you're.

870
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 6: Just you're a jerk and you're not a good teammate.

871
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 3: And sometimes it's the opposite. You look like you're a

872
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 3: terrible teammate and you would you would do anything for

873
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 3: that guy.

874
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 6: So I'm really interested about that.

875
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 4: I feel that way about Shaddy like I want to see.

876
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 4: I want I want to see because right now, like

877
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 4: he is, I said, I think, I don't know where

878
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 4: I said it. I know, I said up, I don't

879
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 4: know what show I said it on. But he is

880
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 4: like many, so many jobs, so many jobs.

881
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 6: Have you ever had multiple girlfriends?

882
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 4: Nope?

883
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 6: Okay, really that's just wondering.

884
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 3: That was like you have a hard time keep you

885
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 3: have a hard time keeping your shows straight?

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Speaker 6: What you say where of? Like, there's no way he's

887
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 6: ever juggled more than one relationship.

888
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 4: Who will want to?

889
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 3: Some people do that at so people live home, different lives.

890
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 4: Just sorry, one woman is enough, he said it.

891
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 6: He said it that one woman.

892
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 5: That's a headache enough sheep. But right now, like Shoddy

893
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 5: is on a like Barry Bond, Sammy Sosa, Mark McGuire

894
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 5: like home Run.

895
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 4: Everything he does, he's sitting on the trajectories like straight

896
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 4: up everything, and all we all we have to go

897
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 4: off right now is when he talks. That's it.

898
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 5: That's all we have to go off of. There's nothing,

899
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 5: there's no data that we can go off of as

900
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 5: a head coach. So all we have is him speaking

901
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 5: him out at the events, him setting the culture him

902
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 5: in press conferences him whatever it is, it's all we have,

903
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 5: and every time he speaks he's been home run. I

904
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 5: want to see what happens when when the grease is hot.

905
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 5: I want to see him when the grease is hot.

906
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 5: I want to see. I want to see that side.

907
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 5: I want to see when there's a two game losing streak,

908
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 5: if they're a two game losing streak, I want to

909
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 5: see when something nothing go right?

910
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 6: Does he yell? Does he throw the headset down?

911
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 5: How do they respond to him? How do he respond

912
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 5: to them? How does he respond if GP goes off?

913
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 5: How does he respond if.

914
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 4: If if CD does his thing and he goes and

915
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 4: stands eighty yards away from his teammates, How does he

916
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 4: react with Micah? How does he? You know? I want

917
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 4: to see. I want to see that part because as

918
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 4: of right now, from the from the surface.

919
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 6: Of its price on national TV, from.

920
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 5: The search of it all, I mean, he is he

921
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 5: has done a great job being a media darling and

922
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 5: saying absolutely all the right things.

923
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Speaker 6: It's going to be a fun year one way or

924
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 6: the other.

925
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 7: It is always is interesting, always.

926
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 6: Interesting around here.

927
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 3: But this this lot of storylines this year hard knocks

928
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 3: is going to have their hands full trying to keep

929
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 3: it even across the four teams when there's going to

930
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 3: be so much drama going on here.

931
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 6: Dude, if you think about it, like dan Quinn's.

932
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 3: Story, great story, and and and a lot like Shody,

933
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 3: like a total team guy, total players coach and really

934
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 3: personable and really cares about his players.

935
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 6: And then here and then you got Sirianni, the guy

936
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 6: that you want to hate, but everything he.

937
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 7: Does, like all those personalities up there, yeah.

938
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 6: Like it's it.

939
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 3: And then the Giants. Everybody's kind of like who cares?

940
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 5: But giants probably like, don't show what's again last time

941
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 5: we did this. They're still making memes about this whole thing.

942
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 5: My son's telling me that you ever get this Jaydan Daniels, Yeah,

943
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 5: my son is telling me to get Jaden Daniels and

944
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 5: Saquon and I'm just like, no, we're gonna We're gonna

945
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 5: pay Daniel jump. Like it's just the Giants probably like

946
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 5: please we he suffered enough. We've suffered enough.

947
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 4: But you know you're gonna have big down on there

948
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 4: from philadel you know.

949
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, so well, fellas enjoyed it.

950
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 3: Maybe one day we'll get the whole crew back together

951
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 3: against before training camp. Chris, thanks for keeping us on

952
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 3: the air. Josh, thanks for keeping him company. We will

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00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 3: be back next Thursday. Enjoy your Memorial Day weekend. Don't

954
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 3: forget what it's about.

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Speaker 6: Next week we'll be back.

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Speaker 4: We out whoa.

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