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Speaker 1: Not with my Dog Vic Jay. You know to night
Speaker 1: we got a very special kiss um James. You said
Speaker 1: this was your road dog, My road dog love honey
Speaker 1: from the neighborhood. Uh we we bumped head with niggas together. Uh,
Speaker 1: this boomer, he's a he's a real one. Um. He
Speaker 1: just got out serving twenty and you know, I thought
Speaker 1: it would be good for him to get on here
Speaker 1: and educate some of these young cast is trying to
Speaker 1: go to prison and don't want to go to prison.
Speaker 1: So I thought it would be good to get Boodog
Speaker 1: on here for people to hear what he gotta say
Speaker 1: about being in jail. And it ain't cool, especially during
Speaker 1: that that much time. Yeah, for sure. How much time?
Speaker 1: When did you come on? Bro? I came on August studying.
Speaker 1: Oh you're thirty, so you're just coming on. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: ain't been out ninety days. Yack. Man. You know what's crazy? Dog?
Speaker 1: From the time you went into now, is it just
Speaker 1: weird toil you looking at the internet and everything like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just learning real good right now. I'm barely getting it, man.
Speaker 1: I'm getting it though. With the phone. Right when I
Speaker 1: got out of here, I'm trying to people call him.
Speaker 1: I couldn't turn it on. I'm like, you know, all
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Yeah, I got it. Well, we had
Speaker 1: phones back then, Budog. But the phones are different now,
Speaker 1: but not like these, not like this, it's a whole
Speaker 1: nother level right here. We got everything on it, cash,
Speaker 1: hap bank accounts. Yeah. Yeah, well I had a video
Speaker 1: of visitsing there, so I was used to that. But
Speaker 1: you know, I got all kind of stuff going on
Speaker 1: in the FaceTime on here. It's crazy though. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know the biggest thing bro nowadays. Um, you know, from
Speaker 1: the time you went in and me, you you know,
Speaker 1: come to find out just talking before we started the show,
Speaker 1: we ran a lot of the same circles, right and uh,
Speaker 1: if you look at it now, it's real strange because
Speaker 1: you've got a lot of just cats out there that
Speaker 1: could really you know, the computer is a safe favor
Speaker 1: were you want. The internet came nobody reached out and
Speaker 1: smack the shoot out of here. So you can pretty
Speaker 1: much say today you know what I'm saying said, you
Speaker 1: just say pretty much say what you want to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what was you thinking when you first came home dogs
Speaker 1: looking at if you got to really peep the internet out? Yet? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I peeped it out. I mean it's cool to me.
Speaker 1: You know, you get you get a hold of everybody
Speaker 1: you want to get hold to real quick, you know,
Speaker 1: ship the Facebook cracking, you know, I got a little
Speaker 1: shit cracking on that dough, my little workout videos and ship.
Speaker 1: I like it. It's cooling a lot of honeys on there,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, that's just one part of boomer once
Speaker 1: you get finished messing with some of these clowns on here.
Speaker 1: Man's head, you where you want to reach to the
Speaker 1: screen and chow somebody out. Man all the time? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't be chipping out the clowns. I just muched
Speaker 1: letties on there. I know that I sucked up right, sure,
Speaker 1: So what I would like to do, man, because one
Speaker 1: of the reasons we wanted to put you one man,
Speaker 1: that's right now, we lived in the real climate of
Speaker 1: fifth and chaots. Man. These kids just gotta way confused.
Speaker 1: They think going to prisoners or right of past. It's like,
Speaker 1: I can't wait to go to prison. It's all yeah,
Speaker 1: the reward, you know how. It's a little young catching there, man.
Speaker 1: I told him, Man, I said, you know, it ain't
Speaker 1: y'all fault. Man, It's like it's our fault that we
Speaker 1: went to president, right, I said, y'all get raised, but
Speaker 1: your mama's out there. So y'all dressed like them. Y'all
Speaker 1: pay each other bitches like y'all, mama, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And you'll when their clothes, you know, I
Speaker 1: told him when everything they faught, and the ya should
Speaker 1: looked at me like, damn man, you're right man. He
Speaker 1: got quiet forment and started about what I was telling you,
Speaker 1: because you know, if I can, dad, we didn't call
Speaker 1: each other bitches. I should know that, will you know?
Speaker 1: You th whoop whoopd on like that. But then niggas
Speaker 1: playing Hey, you bitch, I'm like damn homies. So I said,
Speaker 1: man it to the song man. I played the ghetto
Speaker 1: Boys by home. We don't play that. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, y'all remember that cut? Yeah? And you know
Speaker 1: a man called the bitch is a no no. You
Speaker 1: know I'm smacking your mouth, bro. You know you know
Speaker 1: I told him we didn't play like that, just a
Speaker 1: different era, man. And uh, these dudes in a real
Speaker 1: little gangster and they're just all really dopeez man. Right,
Speaker 1: if you aint gotta you really ain't gotta be from
Speaker 1: a gang no more. All you gotta do is how
Speaker 1: to sack nigga? Are you in? Everybody? Then that Crystal
Speaker 1: and and that Spice ship and I was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: nig was passing out up in there this minute ago.
Speaker 1: You said they was wearing skinny jeans in there. Nigga's
Speaker 1: wearing skinny thermos in that motherfucker walking around in there.
Speaker 1: I sent, what the hell is going on around here? Man?
Speaker 1: Me out what state? California? In Oh? You was out
Speaker 1: of here? Hell yeah, that's why I started that he
Speaker 1: was out of state. I got caught up in Alabama,
Speaker 1: ship ball back and forth. You know, I'm in the
Speaker 1: calley the whole time, just bobbing the Arizona, Oklahoma all that.
Speaker 1: If we can't, if we can't broke because we tried
Speaker 1: to do stuff in the timeline, Let's go back kind
Speaker 1: of like to the beginning. Before you got locked up,
Speaker 1: you was out of town doing your thing, and you
Speaker 1: got caught up right and I was in town doing
Speaker 1: my thing. Yeah, before taking down. Let me give him
Speaker 1: a little history. Boomer. Yeah, Boomer was with me during
Speaker 1: the death rowd times. Me and Boomer branched off from
Speaker 1: shuging and bunching them, and we we've worked at let
Speaker 1: me ride out dry lings. Boomer was with me when
Speaker 1: I stripped Drake car. Everything in Drake Card. We took
Speaker 1: out a drake car and put in his car, and
Speaker 1: Boomer it was more advanced on the drive its. He
Speaker 1: was good and ship out man. We had this motherfucking
Speaker 1: ship strap and bumper. And then we would get the
Speaker 1: the guys that came and one of their cars did
Speaker 1: we would get having the money up front, do their
Speaker 1: cars and get the other money after we finished the cars. Uh.
Speaker 1: Boomer and another one of the little homies. We was
Speaker 1: together when you know, certain individuals got out of line.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I said, I won't mentioned
Speaker 1: shop because you know I took my foot off his
Speaker 1: neck a long time ago. But when he would get
Speaker 1: out of line, we would uh get at him. Um hm.
Speaker 1: Booming was in the thicket ship different from me at
Speaker 1: the beginning because he was he was the money maker,
Speaker 1: he was the he was the youngster, the little homie
Speaker 1: in the hood that was taking care of nephews, and
Speaker 1: he was taking care of family. You know, he was
Speaker 1: getting this I was wrong, taking care of his family
Speaker 1: at a young age. And that's what I always liked
Speaker 1: about him, my admiring for it, because he took care
Speaker 1: of his family. He didn't hustle for Boomer he hustled
Speaker 1: for his family, and you know when he left, it
Speaker 1: seemed like a lot of ship disappeared at the Boomer
Speaker 1: left the hood and went to jail because you really
Speaker 1: didn't have that little homie structure that he had in
Speaker 1: the way he carried itself then, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So a lot of that was done, so you know,
Speaker 1: it was just whatever. But when he went to jail
Speaker 1: out and had just was killed two thousand and two,
Speaker 1: and I kind of like, you know, faded away from
Speaker 1: all of that bullshit. So he's been around a long
Speaker 1: time and doing a lot of ship and living is
Speaker 1: like the right way, taking care of family, and then
Speaker 1: he got caught up and this is what burns today,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's just crazy that
Speaker 1: he survived twenty years sending this motherfucker, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: with nothing. And I realized who was who when I
Speaker 1: when I got in there line, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: a lot of homies, Uh they go buddies, Uh, philps
Speaker 1: of liquor and all this weed and ship. I said, Damn,
Speaker 1: I'm from I'm from the mind whatever, you know, I said, Dawn,
Speaker 1: I can't like ten homies get together the slot of
Speaker 1: dove to the home. You know what I'm saying. That's
Speaker 1: quick twey of others right there, like or anything. You know,
Speaker 1: I have certain homies that roll with me to the wheels.
Speaker 1: Fell off my day one kick, you know, he never
Speaker 1: left me. And a few more family members and ship
Speaker 1: a little females and Ship was right with me too.
Speaker 1: Home girls, you know, stay down. So I was. I
Speaker 1: was good anyway, but it just it just showed me,
Speaker 1: like how niggas really feel about the name. So I
Speaker 1: kind of eased off without when I got out right now,
Speaker 1: she ain't really no more. It's just you know, it's
Speaker 1: a certain circle like my nigga, right, but you know
Speaker 1: the certain niggas that I grow up with, they're still around. Man,
Speaker 1: So so good. You've been through the neighborhood since you've
Speaker 1: been on. Yeah, I've been through there. How different is it? I?
Speaker 1: No Folk's Messico now what you call it Mexico Mexico
Speaker 1: as Yeah, yeah, that ship look crazy. That's something looks
Speaker 1: the same no more, right, I mean, And ain't nobody
Speaker 1: around there doing It's like there's nothing there, So niggas
Speaker 1: don't really be over there. Any more like that. Well
Speaker 1: that's a good thing for you. Show. That will pretty
Speaker 1: much keep you out of trouble though. Yeah, I got
Speaker 1: a grand baggy now, man, my grandbaby and my daughter
Speaker 1: there and uh you know my baby mama family still
Speaker 1: and we'll be kicking kicking with them. She six, Oh man,
Speaker 1: she caught Paul crazy too? Is she my baby girl?
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, the real that's wrong and not kicking on Mars.
Speaker 1: You know, I left, you know, I put a lot
Speaker 1: of times off, took a lot of time with my mama. Man,
Speaker 1: so I chilled with her too, right right, that's about
Speaker 1: it really right now, my brother, you know my main
Speaker 1: family and ship, I said, So I'm not doing man,
Speaker 1: I mean, I ain't got nothing to prove, no mom ship.
Speaker 1: I did my part ship, you know. So so before
Speaker 1: the show started, bro, we was talking about like, um,
Speaker 1: Tony Lane, homie Tony Lane. Yeah, you know he was um,
Speaker 1: he had um. He got an issue going on with
Speaker 1: his health. Now, so let's keep the homie black tune
Speaker 1: the prayers out there, you know what I mean, be
Speaker 1: kind of stuff right now, you know what I mean. Know,
Speaker 1: but she was running around in circles with cats like that, man,
Speaker 1: sugar Free Crawl from you know, High Seat and Quicken
Speaker 1: Though Running Around and You wasn't one of sugar Free
Speaker 1: first music videos. Yeah, yeah, they looked straight him and
Speaker 1: his brother, you know. Yeah, Tone is a good cat man. Tone.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you like this dog, Tone put a
Speaker 1: lot of money in my pocket, dog. Yeah. I recificated though.
Speaker 1: I reciprocated for short though, because once I started getting
Speaker 1: my little one too cracking, I was able to kind
Speaker 1: of come back in certain situations that he had to
Speaker 1: where he might have needed helping stuff. I was able
Speaker 1: to look out for him, and that felt real good,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Is it all come back around? But Tone was always
Speaker 1: like a keen maker type cat. He always made sure
Speaker 1: everybody around him kind of had something, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah he was. Yeah, he's straight with me. No,
Speaker 1: we dealt with the other early nineties and all that,
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, straight. I was the homie though on
Speaker 1: the rent I loved him Nick for sure. You get
Speaker 1: caught up, man, and you kicked your kicks. Man, what
Speaker 1: was your initial feelings? Like? Bro? When I called my
Speaker 1: case ship, I first called out billed out you know,
Speaker 1: and uh, and she was like getting rough like you know,
Speaker 1: it kept putting a lot of cases on me and ship.
Speaker 1: I kept betting out and uh, at the minute I said,
Speaker 1: fucking start running. I got tired of that, said. I
Speaker 1: went from the I'm trying to I was trying to
Speaker 1: stay out on me. I shout out to Alabama and
Speaker 1: Ship and uh, you know, I had some trying to
Speaker 1: have some coming to me through the mill and I
Speaker 1: got cracked on me and it was it was a
Speaker 1: round from there. You know what I'm saying. Little family
Speaker 1: I was out there with was looking out for me
Speaker 1: and let me stare at they packed. So when the
Speaker 1: people came there and take the girl to jail and
Speaker 1: the kids and all this, I said no when when
Speaker 1: they ship, I just took my case and said taking
Speaker 1: me to jail. I couldn't, you know. I went to
Speaker 1: and you know what about doing my family like that?
Speaker 1: So I took a little rapping ship. They gave me
Speaker 1: like three years for the whole ship. You know, ten
Speaker 1: years out there it's thirty percent. So they ran my
Speaker 1: chickn curve with my case out here as I was
Speaker 1: going to court in cali Ate that time. Up and
Speaker 1: I got sent this out here for twenty five years,
Speaker 1: and they sent me back to Alabama. I owe them
Speaker 1: eight months. He did that. Then I came back home
Speaker 1: and start doing my time rut here. M hmm. What
Speaker 1: was the biggest thing? What was the biggest thing? Man?
Speaker 1: What was the biggest thing that kind of opened your
Speaker 1: eyes up when you first took down jail? Biggest thing
Speaker 1: over my eyes? Yeah, should I couldn't take care of
Speaker 1: my kids? Ship. I was like, damn, I look my kids,
Speaker 1: my mom and that. But therselves. I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't really bother me. Yeah, you know what it
Speaker 1: seems like, man, It seemed like to me prisoners are
Speaker 1: almost mental strippers and part dignity. Yeah. And the biggest
Speaker 1: about the whole, the whole cat, I mean being in
Speaker 1: there's my baby boy landing in the cell with me
Speaker 1: for three years. Oh wow. That blew me away right there,
Speaker 1: Like damn no, hell yeah, let's talk about that for
Speaker 1: a minute, bro. So how did you bump into him?
Speaker 1: You just you just pull. One day I was was
Speaker 1: calling the pad talking to my daughter breathe. She said, damn,
Speaker 1: why don't been calling? He said, Babe, Johnson, there I
Speaker 1: say't where shoot on sho on a yard on a yard.
Speaker 1: We're talking to the phone. Then he called and he
Speaker 1: clicked in and we started talking on the three way.
Speaker 1: I see what you're doing in there, boy, he said,
Speaker 1: possible messed up man and said so, I said, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to get you over with me. So I let
Speaker 1: the sergeant and he got you right over there with me.
Speaker 1: He said, minute sain't no prison sucks and all this
Speaker 1: is a blood son. Man asked him some questions and
Speaker 1: should ask me some questions. And he asked him and
Speaker 1: found out like he said, he got him over there
Speaker 1: with me. Said you know what you're responsible for. Once
Speaker 1: whatever goes on, you responsible. So you know I'm keeping
Speaker 1: me a line. Let him stood him and ship what's
Speaker 1: going on? Talk to his mother? She said, still on
Speaker 1: his ass. You know, I stayed on. He wanted to
Speaker 1: get loose a little bit, you know, yass, I want
Speaker 1: to get the game banging mentality. He didn't bang. That's
Speaker 1: one thing. I didn't allow him to do his bang good.
Speaker 1: I mean doing that. Nah. Nigga is smart. They're all smart.
Speaker 1: Anybody was smart. Man Like when the school got to
Speaker 1: the education. He just made a mistake, and so right
Speaker 1: he's out here be our next year and camp right
Speaker 1: now and be our next year. Okay, yeah that that
Speaker 1: really won't be up though, dogs like damn I quit
Speaker 1: and sober way. You know what I'm saying, dude, that
Speaker 1: would kind of fuck you amazed that the fuck any
Speaker 1: person that they grew up in their next slim up
Speaker 1: in there with him. Hell yeah, man, niggas asked my
Speaker 1: son something, I'm trip what's something you said that little do?
Speaker 1: I was just how letty boomer? You know, I was
Speaker 1: on anybody, you know, you know, I was tripping, my nigga.
Speaker 1: That's it's different when your baby in there too. The
Speaker 1: whole place side. It's crazy for real, for real, for real.
Speaker 1: So you got to so you got to like kind
Speaker 1: of shack up here for like three years there, three years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we all we had the same support system, you know,
Speaker 1: and we you know, we're straight and need ship in there.
Speaker 1: We just need to get out. And where did you
Speaker 1: go and where did you go from there? Like once
Speaker 1: you complete your time over there, they transferred you out, right, Well,
Speaker 1: he left before me. We left before, so he left
Speaker 1: before you did. Then. Yeah, that was the saddest day
Speaker 1: right there when he left, like damn, you know we
Speaker 1: both felt like no, so sitting in the sale, same sale. Now,
Speaker 1: this is crazy because I didn't. I didn't. I haven't
Speaker 1: had a seven before and my selling was alife. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, listening to his story, listening to him say
Speaker 1: he would never be able to touch money. This is
Speaker 1: him school and me telling me, man, this ain't the
Speaker 1: place to be. You know you would never I've never
Speaker 1: touched money. I've never had sex with a woman. Again,
Speaker 1: I've never touched a woman's hand. Damn, you don't get visits,
Speaker 1: no like that. Sitting and sitting in the sale with
Speaker 1: your son for three years and you got time to
Speaker 1: school him. You got time to like really get on
Speaker 1: his head. Don't come back here. I was straight, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know what. It was a courage but blessed at
Speaker 1: the same time. You know, I really you know, ship,
Speaker 1: I sold me every day so much. I said, Damn, sun,
Speaker 1: I said, I said, you want to be arm me
Speaker 1: so much, you can't follow me the president ship. We
Speaker 1: joked about the ship, but we closed on me and
Speaker 1: all my kids are close to me. It's like I
Speaker 1: never left the whole time, shaid, We all close that's good.
Speaker 1: My granddaughter even know me good. I got the video
Speaker 1: when I got out, she rans I got some videos,
Speaker 1: and you know, I could shoot to you. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just some cool ship. Yeah, it was nice. My beview, mother,
Speaker 1: my son, my daughter, and my granddaughter kind of picked
Speaker 1: me up. Family, you know, family. The nick in the
Speaker 1: prisoners about the crowd when I walked out, huh why
Speaker 1: because they know how long I've been gone, and I
Speaker 1: got her love I got you know, and wait, you
Speaker 1: mean the front right, that's a good feeling man leaving
Speaker 1: up out of there man for like or Morey's show
Speaker 1: type of ship. Yeah. I couldn't believe I was leaving,
Speaker 1: So I got in the van, like, let me get
Speaker 1: up bout here. At first I got up out of it it.
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, I made it up out of there.
Speaker 1: When you take down, man, when you touched back down
Speaker 1: in the free world, what was the first thing you did?
Speaker 1: But the first thing I did. I went in went
Speaker 1: to mims. I was hugged er and you know, chill,
Speaker 1: just you know, chopped on mother, Now my kids just
Speaker 1: chill for a minute. I went to a college. Huh,
Speaker 1: what do you what do you mean? The first, I
Speaker 1: think I did like for us on like food and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. You know, of course you can get
Speaker 1: out your family and stuff. Yeah, I got me some
Speaker 1: some gumbo and ship some good gumbo. Man, I was
Speaker 1: well made that for me. I told that, you know,
Speaker 1: not because I got and I had to you know
Speaker 1: then that Yeah, yeah, I got a lot of homeboys. Man,
Speaker 1: you don't how to get the next batch? Stay man,
Speaker 1: the who the next best thing? You know? They had
Speaker 1: to gonna get to take something down man for sure,
Speaker 1: for sure, said you know what I was because I
Speaker 1: think we got a little bit of delay going on.
Speaker 1: I think it's a little slight delay, you know with
Speaker 1: your phone. Yeah, So what I was saying was this
Speaker 1: when you came back home. Was it kind of like
Speaker 1: a shock for you a little bit to see how
Speaker 1: the world have changed since you have been doing? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, it's it's funny. Yeah, it's kind of
Speaker 1: funny how these funny as people chat everybody, you know,
Speaker 1: these funny ass clothes and ship. That's about it. I'm
Speaker 1: looking at these names like, damn, I'm not wearing that ship.
Speaker 1: I had to get adapted to that all that, you know,
Speaker 1: skinny jeans, I ain't wearing that ship there. But I'm
Speaker 1: just looking at all these all these fake booties and ship,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, damn, I spot him now. And well,
Speaker 1: you know it's you know, people do what they do
Speaker 1: though man ship. But I'm used to it. I mean
Speaker 1: it's cool. I'm I'm getting heresed to it. It's all
Speaker 1: right right now. All the ship, the cards, we tell
Speaker 1: you which way to go, turn left on roast crames, right,
Speaker 1: you know, all that ship. I'm tuning up for all
Speaker 1: that crazy ship. Yeah, but ain't you know, but people
Speaker 1: say it was real hard out him. I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't see it like how they saying it. I guess
Speaker 1: the people who are sorry gonna be sorry anyway, say
Speaker 1: that you've been going twenty years in the sence people
Speaker 1: on the same block after twenty years. Yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: sad to me. It is because twenty years you have
Speaker 1: to find something to do. I know you could have
Speaker 1: been working that twenty years and and had something, but
Speaker 1: yet you like you still got homeboys still sitting on
Speaker 1: the block on the corner, you know, drinking beer. That
Speaker 1: ship is so old. We did that in the eighties.
Speaker 1: Here it is two thousand and twenty two and you're
Speaker 1: doing the same thing. And the sad part about the
Speaker 1: whole thing's like, I don't want I'm an alp for
Speaker 1: like a few we niggas got to ask me the
Speaker 1: ship already. I'm like, God damn, already. I did a
Speaker 1: dub my Nick should be breaking me off. Cy asked
Speaker 1: me for money and ship. He was asked me for
Speaker 1: all type of ship. I was like, God damn, I
Speaker 1: just got out just what they thought they thought. I
Speaker 1: hit the money from the robbery, Like on my fucking us,
Speaker 1: Mrs Shoddy's I mean whatever the show that was. I
Speaker 1: know you had that money from the robbery, nigger. I
Speaker 1: don't know what they thought shout. I guess I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: but some people. But even if you did still happen.
Speaker 1: You was just going over twenty years and a half
Speaker 1: family y'all here. Yeah, how I wouldn't even ask him
Speaker 1: abouy for ship. I mean, you know That's what I'm saying, bro.
Speaker 1: So when you was inside, man, because I've talked to
Speaker 1: James about that a lot, did you do your program
Speaker 1: when he was locked up? Did you really do your
Speaker 1: program to try to really just make your time go
Speaker 1: by some even like actually pick up some information that
Speaker 1: could be beneficial to you once you got out. Hell yeah,
Speaker 1: I did all type of ship. Yeah you got trades
Speaker 1: from Yeah? I got everything I needed to make it
Speaker 1: out here. What kind of trade? Now? I was doing
Speaker 1: mechanic work, uh, warehouse ship, all kind of ship, electrician
Speaker 1: and ship, all types of ship that when I was
Speaker 1: in that camp, they had all type of ship up there.
Speaker 1: You know already knew half it. You know I knew
Speaker 1: shiity about cars already, actually working my pops already. You
Speaker 1: know I know about cars already. So I was working
Speaker 1: mechanics and ship up there, all that ship. Man, I
Speaker 1: mean I'm kind of I got some good ship going.
Speaker 1: Did they no money? Yeah, I'm certified. Okay, you can
Speaker 1: want to make a serious money man, Yeah, Hell yeah
Speaker 1: I can't. Hell yeah, I'm going to make you serious money.
Speaker 1: Ain't no can. I'm going to make your serious money
Speaker 1: the best rush here. I know. That's right. Like them
Speaker 1: as far as like religion or anything, did you um,
Speaker 1: because I'll do a lot of brothers. I know when
Speaker 1: they go to jail, they wind up come they want
Speaker 1: to convert the Islam. No, I still I still in
Speaker 1: my part shops funk all that I just work out. Man,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna do that ship. That's cool though, I'm saying, though, shot,
Speaker 1: somebody wants the banking side, how might eat it? You know,
Speaker 1: and it ain't gonna hurt you. I mean, why you
Speaker 1: got most smoke dope. They smoke dope, So why ain't
Speaker 1: making Yeah, now, let me ask you about that, man,
Speaker 1: because in prison you can get anything that you're get
Speaker 1: in the free world pretty much exception. You can get
Speaker 1: that too. Married ship. Yeah, so so marry. So you're
Speaker 1: doing your time bro in there. Did you ever have
Speaker 1: any incidents man that you felt like that you might
Speaker 1: not make it home? Did you ever have a time
Speaker 1: like that when he was locked up? It's twenty years
Speaker 1: a long time. Well, I mean I didn't had to put,
Speaker 1: you know, do some little ship. But you know, I
Speaker 1: figured out I gotta I got. I got away from
Speaker 1: motherfucker's That's all I said. I started hanging with Nikes
Speaker 1: from the Bay Area and all type of ship that
Speaker 1: was from the bullshit you know you got home is
Speaker 1: getting drunk starting dumb ships. So I gotta wait from it.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get up out of there. I ain't.
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna do what everybody else do, ship whenever
Speaker 1: to get home. Huh. That's just crazy to hear you
Speaker 1: talking about man kids and they're getting drunk and high
Speaker 1: they were just they're doing anything like that. Everything's out there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everything in there, that's crazy. Man, mother, mother, smoking, motherfucking
Speaker 1: maybe doing speed all anything you name out that, they
Speaker 1: got it. So people ask me how I do it?
Speaker 1: So so if you were so, if you're a cluck
Speaker 1: on the street and you go to sail, you can
Speaker 1: continue being the same cluck you was on the street.
Speaker 1: If you don't straighten your ship out there, yeah you
Speaker 1: get you get bumped out in jail. If you got
Speaker 1: somebody on the outside, they got money. You can get
Speaker 1: whatever you want off that yard because I can't. Is
Speaker 1: gonna be way and you'll play. You'll get less for high.
Speaker 1: That's all you getting worked, working and shoot out your people,
Speaker 1: right son, whatever you're working. Yeah, that ship it ain't
Speaker 1: worked for to me, you know, especial if you're using
Speaker 1: it and ship it's like as soon as you get
Speaker 1: your pack little package, what do you give it to
Speaker 1: the man? I see you should go down there. Man.
Speaker 1: People daily routine for you. Was up in the morning,
Speaker 1: go here to the yard. We'll go eat, yeah, work out,
Speaker 1: read my little books and stuff. You know. I read
Speaker 1: my obviously my little stock, but I was reading on
Speaker 1: kind of little bucks man, educate myself, you know, right.
Speaker 1: So just what yeah, I just like I said, woke
Speaker 1: up in the morning, come gonna workout on you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, shout up, going there and read you
Speaker 1: know this to my oodies all day soap. Hell, No,
Speaker 1: I don't watch the young you know, No, I didn't
Speaker 1: do that. I mean sometime I watching the little shows,
Speaker 1: don't you know. But you know I want TV crazy.
Speaker 1: I like music better than TV. Hey, we took a
Speaker 1: break from school. We went I went straight to the dorm,
Speaker 1: ship down and watched Younger and Restless. We watched General Hospital,
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about damn the ever nigg the motherfucker module.
Speaker 1: Watch us into it, man. Huh yeah, he said here
Speaker 1: he was talking about that show all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: some people did that. Yeah, man, So you were in
Speaker 1: there doing your time. Man. And I've never been locked
Speaker 1: up before outside of just some little punk ass stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, bail off, you know, traffic ticket type. Ship
Speaker 1: you know, back in the day, I couldn't havemaged. I
Speaker 1: couldn't imagine being locked up, man. And it's like because
Speaker 1: when you locked up and you imprisoned, it's almost like
Speaker 1: you did man, because I got homeboys, Like I said this,
Speaker 1: locked up and when they call, they want to keep
Speaker 1: you on the phone all day because they want to
Speaker 1: know what's going on on the outside, like calling three
Speaker 1: times a day. What's up with someone? So, what's up
Speaker 1: with this? What's up with that? What's going on? Did
Speaker 1: you ever feel like at a time in there, man,
Speaker 1: that you just like shut off from the outside. What
Speaker 1: I'm talking outside of your family. I'm talking about people
Speaker 1: that you thought was your homeboys and outside your riding
Speaker 1: die cats. They seem like they just disappeared. Yeah they did.
Speaker 1: Sh ain't then I just wrote a lot of ladders too,
Speaker 1: you know, to family and you know, little females. I
Speaker 1: was then the wind. So I was cool. I was
Speaker 1: found out of it. I found up. I need to know,
Speaker 1: I make one call, you know, I can't, Like I said,
Speaker 1: I kept somebody on that put me kept me up
Speaker 1: updated on what was going on. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know, I was good with that though, just let
Speaker 1: me know what I gotta do when I get out.
Speaker 1: That's all right, I ain't trimping. It was my fault.
Speaker 1: I went to jail with the wrong names, and I
Speaker 1: got to pay for I had to do my time.
Speaker 1: My mouth now, so that part two said, I'm free,
Speaker 1: I'm happy now. Just came again at you and asked
Speaker 1: you what was it like enough for mother? When it
Speaker 1: was like they better going in experiences themselves because it
Speaker 1: might be different for the anyone from me. That's that's
Speaker 1: what we don't want them to do, because a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of these young cats wouldn't build like
Speaker 1: we were back in the days. A lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of them young kids cannot do twenty years. You know.
Speaker 1: It's not tell me if I'm wrong. Yeah, they ain't
Speaker 1: gonna do twenty years these days, go man, because they
Speaker 1: get they getting right out. Time, they getting right out.
Speaker 1: They're just going to ain't no but dope heads, man,
Speaker 1: that's all they know. They ain't going if if if
Speaker 1: the if the average kid that they get twenty years,
Speaker 1: twenty years yourself in the man, the big cats gonna
Speaker 1: use them. They're gonna they're gonna and and nine times
Speaker 1: out of ten is one of the o g homies
Speaker 1: that they thinking that it's gonna embrace them that turn
Speaker 1: them out, you know what I'm saying. So being imprisoned
Speaker 1: for twenty years, you're gonna run into something, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And by running into that, you gotta
Speaker 1: know how to handle it, how to deal with it.
Speaker 1: And people imprisoned, they got to know you serious. Because
Speaker 1: of taking you serious, you're gonna have a lot of
Speaker 1: problems in there. And this is just what the movimakers
Speaker 1: don't need. You know, I'm serious. I've seen from the
Speaker 1: from the module, your prison breaking from out street, the
Speaker 1: one that got the front front getting raped in the
Speaker 1: county jail. You know what I'm saying that, you know,
Speaker 1: it ain't like it ain't like that numb more that
Speaker 1: that ship. You know, it ain't any man. Prison is
Speaker 1: soft man. It's like a juvenile hall back. Just a
Speaker 1: bunch of youngsters in there. It ain't like the number
Speaker 1: one wellim Duty in there. And when I talked to Duty,
Speaker 1: Duty said, oh no, I understand the politics now, because
Speaker 1: you know he was a little hot here at first.
Speaker 1: And you know I told my sister, I said, Duty
Speaker 1: is not gonna make it in prison. He's gonna be
Speaker 1: in the whole the majority of his time in there.
Speaker 1: Because he was a hot head. And you know he
Speaker 1: already labeled himself with with the big P on the
Speaker 1: side of his face. Um, with his game mentality. He
Speaker 1: was just like off the chain. But when I talked
Speaker 1: to him, because I told my sister, there those those
Speaker 1: those o g is gonna come in there. It might
Speaker 1: be a Muslim, might be a b GF. Somebody gonna
Speaker 1: come highlight and and say, check this out, youngster, that
Speaker 1: this ain't how we program. We don't do this here.
Speaker 1: We ain't getting down like that. Here. We gotta protect ourselves.
Speaker 1: We watch each other. And Duty Duty really got some
Speaker 1: that right right now. Duty act like like he a
Speaker 1: grown man. Now. He talked like a grown man. So
Speaker 1: it taught him, you know what I'm saying, But it
Speaker 1: depends when you start. He was starting a four yard
Speaker 1: to be a little different. A lot of people come
Speaker 1: straight to the two receptions to the camp, so they
Speaker 1: never got just to learn nothing. Man, that's what it means.
Speaker 1: Get the hit the forest and all that. Right, let
Speaker 1: me ask you this real quick boomer for the people
Speaker 1: after that don't know about prison. Were you in the
Speaker 1: were you in the phase you he was an extra
Speaker 1: penitentiary system. That was a state man. You didn't go
Speaker 1: to the face. Still he was doing state time then time.
Speaker 1: So so so what's the four years to live a four? Right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: little folk, you be on lockdown most of the time.
Speaker 1: You don't do should be everything in the sell You
Speaker 1: come out and take a shower, You go back into
Speaker 1: cell and go to yard for a couple of hours,
Speaker 1: go back and just sell time. Really, you can't live
Speaker 1: in a cell, you know, that's all that is shell time.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, next level three yards, get give a little
Speaker 1: more looser, be out all day. You go to the
Speaker 1: two than the one. One is the lowest level. Man,
Speaker 1: that's when you know you're gonna get to the past.
Speaker 1: She should have look captin it ain't it ain't hard
Speaker 1: to to stay out of gym. So ain't stand level three.
Speaker 1: And I started off in Abanag with twelve points and
Speaker 1: zero points to a level three and I wind up
Speaker 1: a number three because of the gang ship. And I
Speaker 1: got into it with a with a prison guard, you know,
Speaker 1: walking through the child line, and had an issue with
Speaker 1: the guard, a female guard at that and she wouldn't
Speaker 1: nutty on me, and I spit on her ass, and
Speaker 1: the motherfucker's putting me in the goddamn whole. I stayed
Speaker 1: in very months. You started on the phone, transferred me
Speaker 1: out of Abanag. Then I started on the four yard.
Speaker 1: You started on the four yard. I started on the
Speaker 1: one yard. So he went up, damn you. I went up. Happen.
Speaker 1: I went to court, I mean I went to see
Speaker 1: him see from MC East. I got rolled up from
Speaker 1: CNC West. Then they put me in CMC East with
Speaker 1: with the libraries. That's what I had to sell it
Speaker 1: for a libry, and I stayed in there. The hole
Speaker 1: was uh full, so they put me in the cell.
Speaker 1: So from there they rolled me up and I went
Speaker 1: to Courtoral and from Corporan. That's when I got. When
Speaker 1: I got to Corporate, I said, okay, fuck this ship.
Speaker 1: You know, my son coming up here, and I felt
Speaker 1: I just felt bad that I went out there with
Speaker 1: my son. You know what I'm saying. He got some
Speaker 1: back right. And the game bangers on the level three
Speaker 1: yards was totally different from level one. You know, there
Speaker 1: was more subtle. We played football against them, uh you know,
Speaker 1: we pretty much watched each other, you know, and I
Speaker 1: was able to parode. And when I road the first
Speaker 1: thing that guard he said to me before they put
Speaker 1: me on the bus and took me to the county jail.
Speaker 1: They didn't I didn't go home and get on the
Speaker 1: bus and then you know that bad take you to
Speaker 1: the bus when I when I proposed I had for warrens.
Speaker 1: Timmy had four Warrens in my name out here on
Speaker 1: the street right. So they back to the county jail.
Speaker 1: So I had to stand the county jail for a
Speaker 1: couple of days, went to court. They did the uh
Speaker 1: that hand out of this ship had my foker to
Speaker 1: say that this ain't him, No, it ain't me. I've
Speaker 1: been in prison. So I was the first time seeing
Speaker 1: ounting and four years because Aunton had got out and
Speaker 1: then went back on the violation. And I met him
Speaker 1: in the county jail. Ran it to him in the
Speaker 1: county jail when I'm went came when I came down,
Speaker 1: and you know, I I ain't been to prison. This yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't go to jail, ship, but but the thing
Speaker 1: was coming in prison. It ain't if you game banging,
Speaker 1: your game banging and you're going to the whole. You
Speaker 1: you get, you're gonna get a case, sue a knife,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna protect yourself or we have. When we
Speaker 1: was in there going to the blind, get your fight
Speaker 1: on and do whatever. And I saw a vista whatever.
Speaker 1: But when I got rolled up to go to MC East,
Speaker 1: one cat spoke on our crew and he shouldn't have.
Speaker 1: And one of the one of our own g homies
Speaker 1: was in there and he said, uh, I said that
Speaker 1: if we allow this, then the grips don't think we
Speaker 1: ain't ship. So just a nigger. So I put on
Speaker 1: my jacket, my gloves and I go in the nigga
Speaker 1: dorn and he was in the shower where my dumbass
Speaker 1: fucked up. Where they showers is they guard uh the
Speaker 1: little the office is right across from the shower. You
Speaker 1: walk out the shower, you look straight at the guards.
Speaker 1: So when I went in there and sucked the nigga up,
Speaker 1: I came out of there and hit that back door
Speaker 1: to the door and CNC. So I'm walking. They knew
Speaker 1: who I was because I was wet, and they rolled
Speaker 1: my ass up. Went over there to the east from
Speaker 1: ned courtand so prison wasn't nothing different for me, but
Speaker 1: it was just street ship and the only difference was
Speaker 1: being locked up and can't do what the funk you
Speaker 1: wanna do? Yeah that say, yeah, you know what, every
Speaker 1: gang is together in that motherfucker. No, the cryptus hang
Speaker 1: out together now. We used to be on site that
Speaker 1: should ain't having no moment. Yeah, because they've learned that
Speaker 1: every other protect his own and they they together. Colors
Speaker 1: Man said, did you know the other people they be ship?
Speaker 1: They'll be honest. You know, everybody hate us in it,
Speaker 1: but they want to be like us for some reason.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. Do you got something
Speaker 1: you know that's I can't say all I'm like that.
Speaker 1: You know you got a certain in the visures that
Speaker 1: act like that. You know, Let's see what you have
Speaker 1: is you got you got some of that says that
Speaker 1: played basketball with you, you know yea brothers that play
Speaker 1: that handball real chuck. Everybody is cool and to the
Speaker 1: tension when the crack off they sign you got to
Speaker 1: go with your folks. That's the thing when it's time
Speaker 1: to trying to ride. Yeah, good though, man, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Say one thing I wanted to ask
Speaker 1: you man, and I've never got to ask you this before.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna go We're gonna go back to the
Speaker 1: prison stuff. But I wanted to talk about when y'alls working,
Speaker 1: and let me write how profics right now, that's a
Speaker 1: little riding. It was expensive to the motherfucker dog. Yeah.
Speaker 1: When did he say to you when he came back
Speaker 1: to get this ship. He didn't say nothing. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: sent him in the alley and we was in the
Speaker 1: backyard and my MoMA's house. Everybody was in the back
Speaker 1: playing basketball. He just said, uh, how you like the car.
Speaker 1: But at that time, me and booming and Booming had
Speaker 1: stripped that motherfucker down off four wheels, the the all
Speaker 1: the dry licks, everything got the motherfucking the music going,
Speaker 1: everything going on it, and uh, George and then came
Speaker 1: and got the car. Well, when George and Then came
Speaker 1: and got the car, me and my daughter's mama was
Speaker 1: was having to fight in the front yard. And uh,
Speaker 1: she took two right, So when she took too, I
Speaker 1: took four and she got off the ground norm I
Speaker 1: swear to God two stories. She got off the ground bleeding,
Speaker 1: and she did like this, and she tasted the blood
Speaker 1: and she just got to go here. Remember my station wagon,
Speaker 1: the blue station wagon. I had woman because if this
Speaker 1: was none of you on me, right, And she grabbed
Speaker 1: the mop and she started beating the windship with the mop.
Speaker 1: So I told George to pull my cat like down
Speaker 1: the streets. So when he pulled my cat like down
Speaker 1: the street, mind you, they're trying to put tires on
Speaker 1: the on the folk and uh, I tell you to
Speaker 1: move my car down the street. And when I got
Speaker 1: out of the car, chased around the car. She got
Speaker 1: in the car chasing me. Right, So I had to
Speaker 1: dive into bushes like my guyber and ship and the
Speaker 1: bits came in hit my car. George left my car
Speaker 1: door open and she hit my car door and I
Speaker 1: just went crazy because I couldn't close the door. None
Speaker 1: of that ship. But anyway, they came down they seen
Speaker 1: everything going in the engine went really ship, so we didn't, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: So but everything that we took out the car, we
Speaker 1: put it in boomers and that was the deuce, right yeah,
Speaker 1: And let me ride and he had to how this
Speaker 1: ship out there? What makes you want some ship like nigga?
Speaker 1: Where my stuff in my car? Would you bust his
Speaker 1: motherfucking notes. I don't think. I don't think think Dame
Speaker 1: was that type of guy. He was kind of nice man,
Speaker 1: and you know, I didn't he went like that. He
Speaker 1: was wasn't it wasn't even dred yeah with its fat dude.
Speaker 1: It was the fact that the handing into the head
Speaker 1: tried to pay pay James and been all right, that's
Speaker 1: all that was exactly period and when when about right though,
Speaker 1: so he wanted to be Yeah, that called a big ball.
Speaker 1: You got the wrong one on. Yeah, So I showed them, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll think you're wont get the car back, come get it.
Speaker 1: But we took all that ship out of there, took
Speaker 1: the coals everything. Huh, yeah, yeah, I think that's some
Speaker 1: new coils. Though I got to I got small coils.
Speaker 1: I got a little righter by the time he got finished.
Speaker 1: Hey he put the ship together. It south Yeah, we yeah,
Speaker 1: I think yeah, I got to go with some. Uh.
Speaker 1: The line was something was Randolph one of them, I
Speaker 1: want some going was from Yeah. The cold thing. She
Speaker 1: never said, you are me for the car. Now they're
Speaker 1: coming they come in and let me. But they're coming
Speaker 1: up there, and you know, they was getting They were
Speaker 1: so mad that we was doing cool because you know,
Speaker 1: I hired my grandfather, I hired my uncle as mechanics.
Speaker 1: We had the two masks and me and Boo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was really working though off. Really he really had
Speaker 1: had a shot, one like a real shot. So they
Speaker 1: were trying to shut it down. And then I had
Speaker 1: to get back in and then you know, all hell
Speaker 1: grow blues niggers was talking crazy. But then we had
Speaker 1: to run into niggas and Louis Burgers shop come in.
Speaker 1: How on me and was thinking on ship didn't really
Speaker 1: know about and I had, you know, like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't know. It wasn't it wasn't Drake far it
Speaker 1: was it was Supe and you know, Drake worth a
Speaker 1: billion dollars now. So I don't even trip off of
Speaker 1: that car, you know what I'm saying. It ain't like
Speaker 1: I made money off of it. Everything in the car,
Speaker 1: Boomer got it. I gave it. I didn't want the car.
Speaker 1: I wasn't, you know. The saying was y'all working y'all
Speaker 1: was working a death row together too, right, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that's part of the Yeah, all that ship, it's
Speaker 1: all just you know, yeah, that's crazy, man, Because I
Speaker 1: remember hearing about the cats over there from man, y'all
Speaker 1: was running around this motherfucker like, man, man, I mean
Speaker 1: we were just doing, you know, doing our thing. Man.
Speaker 1: It was it was good at the time, so why
Speaker 1: not shap everybody was getting the check. Yeah, we got
Speaker 1: play roads different and it was fun when it was
Speaker 1: the one was last check, you know. Yeah. The problem
Speaker 1: was certain individuals getting mad because they wouldn't get what
Speaker 1: the next person was getting. Yeah, we was good. We
Speaker 1: wouldn't my focus. We was doing so good. I was
Speaker 1: want to come in. What we doing? I'm like, hell no,
Speaker 1: we were straight. Well we got up there. It was
Speaker 1: was confusing. Anybody want to come or get keys to
Speaker 1: the shop and I'm like, hell no, what do you
Speaker 1: do all that? Hey, let's do our point right there
Speaker 1: and running and we do. Yeah, we got drunk up
Speaker 1: in their motherfucker's We have women and night up in
Speaker 1: their motherfucker. I mean it was cracking. You don't want
Speaker 1: to go out of town. Everything is right here, you know.
Speaker 1: Was h you know, in my in my house with
Speaker 1: me a pam ship Joe to see all them niggas
Speaker 1: would come through, came through, they shoot you know, my mother.
Speaker 1: The mob was celebrity niggas. We was regular game banging
Speaker 1: and thingers. We didn't we didn't bite into that. Oh
Speaker 1: that's whoo whoo. I think it's so man. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'my Hills, right, you got white people
Speaker 1: calling me boooroo, rich white mouth. I'm like, hey booloom,
Speaker 1: like what the fuck? You know? It was crazy man?
Speaker 1: That she was crazy? Oh man, George all the month
Speaker 1: was like booloo, what would you like on your burger? Oh?
Speaker 1: It's crazy a it's some crazy ship man. But see
Speaker 1: on the problem was we're trying to get out the
Speaker 1: hood and get to another level. Somebody. Ever, then he
Speaker 1: could much the experience too much. When it was coming up,
Speaker 1: trying to stay in this ship, trying to prove something right,
Speaker 1: it was backwards. We're trying to lead that ship. We
Speaker 1: trying to we did that was kids, sh we trying
Speaker 1: to a better life. It was one of those six
Speaker 1: ways to where y'all was pretty much going out there
Speaker 1: doing with your deal for coming back to your neighborhoods
Speaker 1: at night. Yeah, yeah, that was kind of some bullshit,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like that we're trying to
Speaker 1: we're trying to get out of that ship. Me and
Speaker 1: my daughter Mama was living together. I was giving parties
Speaker 1: every Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday, and it was And
Speaker 1: then we had the football games on the weekend, and
Speaker 1: we had cats from all different parts of l a
Speaker 1: uh San Diego, like Emerald Hills. We had mothers coming
Speaker 1: to play football against us and then go to my
Speaker 1: house and to the next motherfucking day, you know. And
Speaker 1: some of them casts wren't leaving until a Tuesday on Wednesday. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, we were just having a good time. We
Speaker 1: was having a good time, and then a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of the bushes started and you know, it
Speaker 1: just wasn't working, you know, putting yourself out there like that,
Speaker 1: I wish I don't know same. Let me ask you something.
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to be messy. Man was up there
Speaker 1: knocking Marry zat bliged. Is it true? Who was? Uh?
Speaker 1: You know, I've heard a couple of different people, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know that. Lady ain't never did nothing to me,
Speaker 1: and angles never speak bad on that lady. You know,
Speaker 1: A lot of ship was going on in depth Row
Speaker 1: at the time, and a lot of these female artists
Speaker 1: and people was kicking it up there and they all
Speaker 1: pretty much everybody did the same thing, getting sucked up,
Speaker 1: and it was what it was. Did I sit back
Speaker 1: and try to just know I wouldn't part of that
Speaker 1: type of ship, so you know I wouldn't. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have one that should say go whoop his ass? You
Speaker 1: got the wrong one? How may you go with? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I did shout my ownline set ship. I ain't even
Speaker 1: gets on nick. I was just I was using all that.
Speaker 1: I don't even I don't need not ne said like that, right,
Speaker 1: So I mean it was what it was. Nor Yeah,
Speaker 1: but if you nigger wanted his ass, whoof he got
Speaker 1: his ass with for real? For real? Yeah, we don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what happened, but they just go on out
Speaker 1: for you know, you were crazy part of the James
Speaker 1: I saw. I saw Shi the Knight that he got
Speaker 1: into it with the cat the barber captain with the ship.
Speaker 1: Uh glass is actually song. We was we was going
Speaker 1: inside of the House of Blues, right, you know show
Speaker 1: they should was back there standing and you know we
Speaker 1: were just kind of all out there talking. Right. Uh,
Speaker 1: we was out there talking and you know, just kicking
Speaker 1: and shoot, wasn't that no kind of way or nothing.
Speaker 1: It was cool, you know what I'm saying. But then
Speaker 1: I heard later on the night, because you're like you're
Speaker 1: hanging up in Hollywood, somebody told me and said, man,
Speaker 1: something just not shug out with it. Hit him with
Speaker 1: a stick. The first they was saying it was a stick.
Speaker 1: Then I heard it was a crowbar or something like that,
Speaker 1: you know, something like that. But it was that did it.
Speaker 1: You know, he was on the motorcycle set. You know
Speaker 1: at the time he was cutting half. But that don't
Speaker 1: mean he ain't he wouldn't win it. Um. At that time,
Speaker 1: it was a lot of ship going on. It was
Speaker 1: a lot of brothers, a lot of homies that when
Speaker 1: hanging was showed no more. That's that's what I told you.
Speaker 1: I said, I said, damn, he must be some weird
Speaker 1: niggas because uh and and you know dank with the business.
Speaker 1: So oh the young homies, that's you know, yeah they're straight.
Speaker 1: But yeah, how how certain homies were around people don't
Speaker 1: even come around you like that. Certain niggles there you
Speaker 1: come up. So you know, I just not saying like
Speaker 1: taking up in the little homies though, but you know
Speaker 1: they're straight. But you know how certain the homies there,
Speaker 1: they scared to come around us, that's all. So you
Speaker 1: know what that ship though, man, if you if you're
Speaker 1: going from from from the cats that you had on
Speaker 1: Death Blow, the Jews, the buzzers that has the that
Speaker 1: you know, some of them fresh out of prison. It
Speaker 1: was ready to go. They was getting paid for knocking
Speaker 1: niggers out. You know, this is what we do and
Speaker 1: we're gonna get paid for it. Yeah, they were master
Speaker 1: mechanics at this ship. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So should not have them in your corner no more?
Speaker 1: People see this now Now motherfucker's is throwing drinks on you. Now,
Speaker 1: Motherfucker's is Oh he ain't got them niggas no more.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah niggas. I want to get at it. And
Speaker 1: that's what happened that night. So you know, so the
Speaker 1: heat off they knew they was working with je niggas
Speaker 1: and and they knew by the way it happened to
Speaker 1: niggas was built that they just got out of prison.
Speaker 1: So now times out of team, you don't want that
Speaker 1: that that kind of that kind of problem. So SHO
Speaker 1: was good at that time, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but when everybody fell off, all you got us a
Speaker 1: little homies and they wouldn't then particularly scared or worried
Speaker 1: about that. So he a lot of ships started having
Speaker 1: sugar that got shot. There was no repercussions, you know,
Speaker 1: just ships. Did nothing happen if no retaliation, And you
Speaker 1: know that's what the hood was built on. You get
Speaker 1: one of us, We're coming to get you. Uh. That's
Speaker 1: that's how niggas was getting down back then. Oh no,
Speaker 1: we're gonna sunk all you niggas up. So what he
Speaker 1: ain't here, We're gonna get you niggas, and you have to.
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like we got kind of
Speaker 1: worked over there and we got some little ship. We
Speaker 1: got cribs like a motherfucker. Man. That's why the ship
Speaker 1: went back like this. That's why she went back because
Speaker 1: you know what, everybody got paid. Everybody got paid. I
Speaker 1: everybody been rich right now, and they would have had
Speaker 1: puk and big. We have been living. We've had fifty
Speaker 1: and spit Uh eminem. Anybody been on that ship that
Speaker 1: should have blow all the way up? Man. To share
Speaker 1: play your artists, it's really simple. Bro. I worked in
Speaker 1: the music business, and when you run up like a business.
Speaker 1: It doesn't function. I tell people that you cannot bring
Speaker 1: guerrilla business into the or room. They just do not work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I used to tell cats because I worked for a
Speaker 1: publishing company. So whenever the black people come in and
Speaker 1: I worked for some people doing from England, right, they
Speaker 1: weren't doing for it. They weren't going for it. So
Speaker 1: when you know, certain kids to come in and get
Speaker 1: the talk, and they wanted this and that. I would
Speaker 1: come in and I'd like say, bro, let me hear
Speaker 1: your music. If you ain't got no music, it ain't happening. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this to you. I beg it different
Speaker 1: because it worked for Shi. She'll got a master motherfucking
Speaker 1: plan and he made millions of dollars with the hood
Speaker 1: and then bam, what happened was that he didn't pay,
Speaker 1: He didn't look out for those that helped him get
Speaker 1: where he was at. Then on top of that, on
Speaker 1: top of that, she She'll didn't do no drugs. She'll
Speaker 1: didn't know we should didn't do none of that. Ship
Speaker 1: he had now motherfucker's to infiltrate and him in and
Speaker 1: he started participating and ship that he never did, never
Speaker 1: did so he started not giving the funk about certain things,
Speaker 1: and you know that would shug demise, you know, not
Speaker 1: really paying attention and not really stand on top of business.
Speaker 1: Should your Should would have shut shipped down and put
Speaker 1: sue some the homies and and made up made the
Speaker 1: security business legit. Sheould was still be functioning and doing
Speaker 1: this thing right now, dog, then you know I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something to see now. When Should
Speaker 1: initially came in, you had to have a little bit
Speaker 1: of that muscle mentality, that guerrilla mentality, because that's just
Speaker 1: what was going on in l A, right. But once
Speaker 1: she was ablished stuff she wants to death. Row had
Speaker 1: the best music at the time. You don't have to
Speaker 1: do all that ship like once. You'll put the like
Speaker 1: once y'all put the initial people down, y'all. That should
Speaker 1: have been it. Y'all should have all been dressed in suits.
Speaker 1: It should have been all though some cool stuff. What's up, brother?
Speaker 1: How you doing? Y'all had the music already, y'all had
Speaker 1: the money, And that's what I mean. The gorilla ship
Speaker 1: has to be there, right, It's a necessary component. But
Speaker 1: you can't let that beat your whole thing bro eventually
Speaker 1: and it has to turn to a business the words like, man,
Speaker 1: we're not get down like that. This is what we're
Speaker 1: doing because now you got the music, and then she'd
Speaker 1: have got nonna smash. Yeah, everybody wanted them to manage
Speaker 1: them right right now. You have to know when to photo.
Speaker 1: You have to know when to say, Okay, let's make
Speaker 1: this legit right here, we're not gonna do this. We're
Speaker 1: not gonna do this way, and then we're not gonna
Speaker 1: come so gangster to all these Beverly Hill parties and ship.
Speaker 1: It's like we have every cop we can let one
Speaker 1: of them blow up and then look out for the
Speaker 1: homies in the hood. It's just all kind of ship.
Speaker 1: Could have just let me ride hydraulics. Everybody could have
Speaker 1: came them, let me buye to us men and and
Speaker 1: learn the trade how to fix slow rides. They could
Speaker 1: have turned to how to reinforced the frames. We had
Speaker 1: all all that boomer know how to how to fun
Speaker 1: with them pumps, them dumps and ship and the best
Speaker 1: side of it, I mean, he was good at that ship.
Speaker 1: So we could have had the little homies come through
Speaker 1: the that's in the hood come and learn some ship.
Speaker 1: But we didn't do that. We started fighting amongst each
Speaker 1: other because of one motherfucker seeing the next nigger check
Speaker 1: and was like, oh wow, you know everyone someone were
Speaker 1: driving all kind of ship that she got to stop
Speaker 1: all kind of ship. An easy, I said, doing the
Speaker 1: same thing. We all had the same time. She was
Speaker 1: no bigger than than a boomer, than than than than
Speaker 1: an outing, than than a jew. That he wasn't no
Speaker 1: bigger than none of them. So everybody should have been
Speaker 1: getting the same salary regardless. He says, there was enough.
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm telling you, man, is I worked
Speaker 1: in the music business. There was enough money change the world.
Speaker 1: Like you said, if you want to put suits on
Speaker 1: the security should could have afforded at that time. But
Speaker 1: all the stuff he had going and he didn't have
Speaker 1: to spend his money, he could have gave out in
Speaker 1: the label and said, hey, you gotts for go find
Speaker 1: you a wrapper. We're gonna get you a label. Because
Speaker 1: there was a lot of people that wanted to funk
Speaker 1: with should but couldn't necessarily fun with him because of
Speaker 1: the Greek he ever interscope. He could have put that
Speaker 1: he could have ended up put out and over in
Speaker 1: the depth jam building. He could have want to put ship,
Speaker 1: let us do our thing and you keep the other ship.
Speaker 1: Professional you know that, well, he gonna pick up out
Speaker 1: the tacks and other buildings. It wouldn't even have to
Speaker 1: touch his money. Like if he the game, let's say
Speaker 1: either game country his own lady bounty. You got nephew
Speaker 1: with the wrap, go start your things over there. We're
Speaker 1: gonna make it just let death throw distributed. But it's
Speaker 1: in death jam. Go pick up that budget. Now everybody
Speaker 1: got money. Once everybody got money, you're not even gonna
Speaker 1: be on that time. Gonna work as y'all living from
Speaker 1: your houses out in the valley you live. Ain't nobody
Speaker 1: relation because at the end of the day, bro, everybody
Speaker 1: wants the same ship. Don't know, nigger want to be
Speaker 1: out your team and ship up living things, don't everybody's
Speaker 1: want to profile play families. They're making you gotta where.
Speaker 1: He's picking up a check for two fifty three hundred thousand.
Speaker 1: He getting them carew if you live, we go get
Speaker 1: his baby, MoMA and his kids. Put him in there.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna want to funk that up. He's not
Speaker 1: before unless she could have turned like that, So we
Speaker 1: could have got like all these hoods is beeping around
Speaker 1: them because have got a g from each hood. Everybody
Speaker 1: put their ship together and blow up, you know, say
Speaker 1: like it took everybody been fighting over that ship. That
Speaker 1: was the plan. That was that was the plan, like
Speaker 1: in the middle of it. And and you know, but
Speaker 1: what happened was she get incorporated g niggas from different
Speaker 1: hoods and kept it on the gang banking mentality, on
Speaker 1: the guy mentality. And my whole thing, just like chelling buntry.
Speaker 1: You cannot survive being the tough guy every motherfucking day,
Speaker 1: every time you go out. You're not gonna win every battle. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And and at the end of the day, oh nigga,
Speaker 1: you're trying, you're drinking. Yeah, but I'm telling you, motherfucker's
Speaker 1: the truth. I'm telling you the truth. I know. I said,
Speaker 1: I seen this covering and then ship started happening, you
Speaker 1: feel me? So? Yeah, it should should have took advice
Speaker 1: from from those that was in the hood that been there,
Speaker 1: had done that, that know what's going to go the rouster.
Speaker 1: Take the ones that knew how to do certain things,
Speaker 1: that had skills and certain different avenues areas he should
Speaker 1: have took the advice of it. James, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you something, bro, because I really worked in the music industry.
Speaker 1: I worked for Money Music Publishing for six years, and
Speaker 1: at that time everybody it was Tony Lincoln had a
Speaker 1: deal they had to deal with at Island Records. Right
Speaker 1: at Island Records, I was in the studio when Um
Speaker 1: Sugar Free was recording the new album and one d
Speaker 1: gold Stained from Capital Offer Black Tone a million dollars
Speaker 1: um lead forward at this label. Leafard had a nice label. Dog.
Speaker 1: They gave you at that time by death from being
Speaker 1: so hot. Every block of label wanted to be in
Speaker 1: business with him. They couldn't. That's what he was supposed
Speaker 1: to say. You know what, James, I know you're gonna
Speaker 1: get about the music, but you can get this label.
Speaker 1: We go make you an executive Nigger. You gonna go
Speaker 1: over here and we gonna get you a label. You
Speaker 1: gonna manage this sixituation. Everybody, y'all. Man. At that time,
Speaker 1: it was so much money in music, Dog, and he
Speaker 1: was giving niggas who would have five million dollars Dog Online.
Speaker 1: Ain't getting all this down on this bull ship. Everything
Speaker 1: even download music type of ship. But boom, mother telling
Speaker 1: you something. There's a lot of money in this ship
Speaker 1: right now. There's still money, it's just different. The money
Speaker 1: is different way because now you have to participate in
Speaker 1: the show money with the artists and the publishing this stuff.
Speaker 1: But it's actually more money. I wish you ain't got
Speaker 1: a manufactional CDs, right, you can want to go play
Speaker 1: them off a single dog like like I was listening
Speaker 1: to the young boy Um the hot Nigger to look
Speaker 1: dude with the jail right. Uh. They said that his
Speaker 1: regular label, Deaf Jam made ten million dollars off that single.
Speaker 1: He made one million dollars, So it's still a lot
Speaker 1: of money in his treatment. There's a lot of money
Speaker 1: in the should could have should be cause it created
Speaker 1: How Junta get a billion dollars? How Kanye don't make
Speaker 1: the billion dollars? Should have could have made a billion
Speaker 1: dollars and changed the whole trajectory of his whole neighborhood.
Speaker 1: She would would have made a billion dollars man two thousand,
Speaker 1: two thousand and two, he'd have been a billion. Then
Speaker 1: he would have everybody. You gotta think about it, bro,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Yavin loved him, he would have walked up. But then,
Speaker 1: first of all, he should have never got the trades,
Speaker 1: old lady, he still had a trade. Therefore he would
Speaker 1: have eminem, he would have fifty six. Uh, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you, doing everything right. Shouts out to nigga, Dude,
Speaker 1: don't go over that TV when the Jesus niggas out
Speaker 1: here from the niggasays you don't never hear his name
Speaker 1: and the bullshit you don't see him. That's how the
Speaker 1: boss supped to be. The bulls are supposed to be
Speaker 1: in the cutter. Yeah, supposed to magazines. Assuming should have
Speaker 1: got to get no magazines and smoke a stick arts.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker's that's when she got sucked up. You're not gonna
Speaker 1: see dude. Don't doing that ship are Your job was
Speaker 1: to do the dirty work. Our job was to fight.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't have supposed to involve his ship and none
Speaker 1: of that. He wasn't supposed to been seen and none
Speaker 1: of that. That was that's our job. You Compton against
Speaker 1: Compton should leave, that's our job. He should have never
Speaker 1: been seen on camera. That's our motherfucking job. Nigga is
Speaker 1: getting paid for it. Why fighting put away and that's
Speaker 1: of money. But that nigga real for me was I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you the night tu part did what he
Speaker 1: did and hit that man. He should have never been there.
Speaker 1: If somebody should have grabbed his ass, choked his ass
Speaker 1: out Truggs at the bathroom when you should have had
Speaker 1: this as the first thing smoking the first time, this
Speaker 1: kind of thing, I wouldn't have game to New York.
Speaker 1: Some motherfucking were the asset. You gotta protect the asser.
Speaker 1: That's the money, right, is real and that game the
Speaker 1: celebrity hit me, you mutch with the house of the
Speaker 1: same ship. You know that Cray This is real that
Speaker 1: you know goddamn a movie. This ain't no motherfucking juice
Speaker 1: damn game. I tell everybody when when because it was
Speaker 1: part that hitting. He felt like he wasn't going back
Speaker 1: to the hood and no rappers may get hitting and
Speaker 1: jumped on it. He had get back and he was
Speaker 1: and he was was of real little game banger over there.
Speaker 1: So the funk up part about it is I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say the homies, which is us was slacking slipping for
Speaker 1: that car to come up, and it shouldn't happened the
Speaker 1: way it did. It shouldn't have happened like that, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know the crazy part about
Speaker 1: that night. I've seen y'all leaving from the gas station
Speaker 1: seventy six. I didn't go that night, right, That ship
Speaker 1: is crazy, But I mean, you don't knowing. Ship happens.
Speaker 1: And I recognized a lot of bullshit that I've done
Speaker 1: in my lifetime, and that's a whole bunch of bulletshit.
Speaker 1: It could have been a worse one. It could have
Speaker 1: been worse. It could have been worse. Yeah, but you
Speaker 1: know a lot of us can actually say that we
Speaker 1: made it through the ship. Look at twenty years and
Speaker 1: he at home with his grand baby. You know what
Speaker 1: my life she Yeah, so we all went through it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we all went through We all should have been rich too,
Speaker 1: are you damn right? We should have told let me
Speaker 1: ride out. Draulics right now, especially cut out and when
Speaker 1: when I know we should sold up. It ain't over though, man,
Speaker 1: were still here ship, you know ship. Yeah. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: a man and you think you can't live in the past. Man,
Speaker 1: But we gotta learn from the past, right, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, because it's the right way to
Speaker 1: do this stuff, James, And I'm telling you see at
Speaker 1: the time the climate we was in that worked back then. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't work today because the record labels have a
Speaker 1: plan for stuff like that. They said, if there would
Speaker 1: never be another nigga like this again, right, we allow
Speaker 1: people to make money. We can go make plenty of money.
Speaker 1: But all that ship beating niggers up and extort niggas
Speaker 1: and all that ship that's not happening. They put niggas
Speaker 1: up under the motherfucking jail for that ship. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: go up in that building. You gotta have when you
Speaker 1: go on the Regglar label right now, because of death row,
Speaker 1: you gotta show your I D. When you're going up
Speaker 1: that motherfucker. You're not even gonna get up, but you're
Speaker 1: not even gonna get word of you had. You just
Speaker 1: can't work up with the record label no more. Before
Speaker 1: you used to be to kind of slide up in
Speaker 1: the record label, you know what I mean, You up
Speaker 1: the stairs and somebody might ask you what you're doing
Speaker 1: here or whatever like that. But now it's not happening,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of money still out there. Dog,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of papers steel out there, So I
Speaker 1: just tell brothers that still got asked, especially for cats
Speaker 1: like y'all that got notoriety in the streets. You feel
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's it's a lot of little younger
Speaker 1: talented cats in the hood, dog that still got talent.
Speaker 1: They just don't have no directions. My little son hard
Speaker 1: as hell. There on the mike there and go right there,
Speaker 1: because right now, Like I met a nicket the other day,
Speaker 1: right and he was talking to me, and I'm thinking
Speaker 1: he in excited if he's like now, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: get in his music game. And I say, well, um,
Speaker 1: what you're trying to do? Manage? You got an artist?
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's me. I'm like, nigga, you forty five
Speaker 1: years old, don't find you a little niggets Plenty of
Speaker 1: little niggas thirty thirty, thirty third, maybe thirty five, depending
Speaker 1: on how the nigked look. He could probably get away
Speaker 1: with it. But that's a younger man's game. You supposed
Speaker 1: to want to be the boss man, nigga. You know what,
Speaker 1: you gotta be exceptionally well. It can't happen though, because
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this just started. It'll be It'll
Speaker 1: be extremely hard exams. You would have to be incredible
Speaker 1: as an artist. I would say thirty thirty five is
Speaker 1: probably as a pre new nigga. I'm talking about brands
Speaker 1: making new nigked Now. Once you won't you're can wrapt
Speaker 1: in your fifty if you want to. Once you establish yourself,
Speaker 1: you can wrap to you sixty years old, this you got,
Speaker 1: you got Dr Dre and all of them going on
Speaker 1: to it right right, Yeah, if people come to see
Speaker 1: them wrap yeah, but years man, they're special man, just
Speaker 1: like I kid. You know he he can bust something
Speaker 1: we want to that that's you see James the thing
Speaker 1: else they're established. Like let's say, if let's like, look
Speaker 1: I got a little artist I signed, right he years old.
Speaker 1: If we're working him and dropping projects every six months
Speaker 1: like we're playing too, and he get good at it,
Speaker 1: he could wrap to the sixty people canna still be
Speaker 1: buying it because if fan base is growing with you
Speaker 1: kinda you feel what I'm saying. Train right now, it
Speaker 1: was like he's been around for so long he can
Speaker 1: still do what he wants to. You feel what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: He's still making great music. I'll talk about a brand
Speaker 1: spanking new nicking and nobody get heard of. You feel
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But if you want your like Rick Ross,
Speaker 1: Rick Ross didn't get on sleeve with thirty five. But
Speaker 1: then Nigga made cold music, right, he made you make
Speaker 1: great music. So you see what I'm saying. And he
Speaker 1: got swagging like a motherfucker. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He looked like you gotta have your costume on. You know,
Speaker 1: Rick Ross got the bear, the cousand dollars, saved the
Speaker 1: jewelry and ship. You know you gotta ship right, but
Speaker 1: ship man on Boom, I'm glad we asked you on
Speaker 1: dog to chop it up with you. Man. You know
Speaker 1: we've got to get you your person dog. Yeah, that workout, man,
Speaker 1: for sure. For sure. We've figured something out, man. And
Speaker 1: you know what, ain't nothing else to say. We have
Speaker 1: this motherfucker all Right's nice telling me, y'all. Man, you
Speaker 1: know I'm all the time A well. That concludes another
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