1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: So is there a silver lining? I do believe there 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: is and it is pretty significant. Welcome to another edition 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: of the Bark Tank. We are presented by Sugar Deale. 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: Thank you for being here. My name is ANDREWS. Ciciliano. 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: We're here every Monday. Today, back in the home office. 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: After another loss, the Browns have officially been eliminated from 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: postseason contention. There are now nine teams that are officially out. 8 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: The Browns are one of four who were eliminated on Sunday. 9 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: That's the negative. 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: The negative is the loss you fall to the one 11 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: win Titans thirty one to twenty nine. The only Titans 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: win before Sunday had come in a just flukish Week five. 13 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: Everything that could go wrong did go wrong for the 14 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: Cardinals game in Arizona, the ball off, Kyler, Murray's face 15 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: mask everything. And that's the only other game, Tennessee one. 16 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: That's not the point. Obviously, you know by now the 17 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: Browns lose. I'm going to try to find the silver 18 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: line as I try to, and I appreciate your patients. 19 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: I think all all of us appreciate your patients. We 20 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: live and die with these games just like you do. 21 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: But the silver lining is that in this is that 22 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: should tors Sanders played great, and yeah, he threw a 23 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: pick and that pick did lead to points, and those 24 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: points certainly did factor at the end of the game. 25 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: But wow, turn on the fourth quarter, go look at 26 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 1: the touchdown to Jerry Judy. 27 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: It's there. You know it's there. I know it's there. 28 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: They know it's there. 29 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: The question is does he keep on taking positive steps 30 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: every week? 31 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: And this week he did. 32 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: And on Monday, Kevin Stefanski when asked by Mary Kay 33 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: Cabot of Cleveland dot Com or the plane dealer, I 34 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: still say the plane dealer is should or going to 35 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: start the rest of the season. 36 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: Kevin didn't hesitate. He said yes, and obviously he should. 37 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: And as Kevin said, he is encouraged by his development 38 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: week in week out, getting better every week. The coaching 39 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: points you see every week you see him move up 40 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: in the pocket instead of running backwards. Now, there was 41 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: a little bit of that, certainly on Sunday against the Titans. 42 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: Obviously they are offensive line issues as well. Katie Leviston, 43 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: Tevin Jenkins a whole new right side of that offensive line, 44 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: and at times the protection wasn't there, but at times 45 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: it was and even when it wasn't Chador was only 46 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: sacked twice. He was able to make plays downfield. He 47 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: was able to make plays with his legs. That is 48 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: not his forte necessarily. Like you look at the other quarterback, 49 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: cam Ward's got a little bit more juice when it 50 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: comes to running and escaping and maybe making guys miss 51 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: in space. 52 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: But Chador's got enough of it. 53 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: And you saw that, and you saw that seven yard 54 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: touchdown to get the Browns do within one score before 55 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: they went for two. 56 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: And obviously Chador and. 57 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: Luke Whippler couldn't connect on the center exchange there, and 58 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: that one was da dead on arrival. And by the way, 59 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: people asked white in the Browns run other than Blake 60 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 1: Whiteheart to try to get Cedric Gray going the other way. 61 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: But it's what we thought in the moment as. 62 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: Well, is that it looked as if Gray had been touchdown. 63 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: Kevin pointed that out on Monday out the play was dead, 64 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,399 Speaker 1: but there wasn't a whistle. He got to run tip 65 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: of the cap to Blake Whiteheart for getting there. And oh, 66 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: by the way, Gray told Mike McCoy, the Titans head coach, 67 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: and McCoy said this on Monday that he just ran 68 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: out of gas. The dude literally stopped. Blake was getting there. 69 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: I think Blake was going to get him, but Cedric 70 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: Gray told his head coach, ye, I had nothing. 71 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 2: I just stopped. 72 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: I couldn't go anymore, or they would have had two 73 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: points and it would have been would have been even 74 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: worse on the scoreboard either way. Let's look at some 75 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: of Shador's numbers. Twenty three or forty two, three sixty four, 76 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: three touchdowns. He also ran for that touchdown. He's the 77 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: first Brown to throw for at least three hundred and 78 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: have at least three touchdown passes and a rushing touchdown 79 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: in a game. Three sixty four and three touchdowns. The 80 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: three sixty four is the third most in a game 81 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: as a rookie, behind two from Baker his rookie year. 82 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: And then this one from our good friends at NFL Research, 83 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: the Great Dante at NFL Network texting me during the 84 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: game and Nathan and I got this into the broadcast. 85 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: Shaudor Sanders completed at least one pass for fifty plus 86 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: yards in each of his first three NFL starts. So 87 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: there's Tim Couch and there's Baker Mayfield, who had done 88 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: that as well. But I want to give you this note. 89 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: Actually this is the one from Dante. I'm going to 90 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: look down on my phone and get it so we 91 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: have it straight for you. It is this Shaudor Sanders 92 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: joined Aaron Rodgers as in that guy. They got the 93 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: place for the Steelers into the discount double check on 94 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: Sunday as the only quarterback since two thousand, so a 95 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: quarter of a century with four completions of fifty plus 96 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: yards in his first three NFL starts. Shador is getting 97 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: better every day, And I thought Dylan Samson made a 98 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: great point something that in the moment I'm not even 99 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: sure we realized. 100 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: Because you're just used to it at this point. 101 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: Because David Njoku left the game with a knee injury 102 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: and no status yet for next week, Kevin did not 103 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: want to rule him out on Monday. 104 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: Has already ruled out. 105 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Kevin has already ruled out waya teller at 106 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: right guard, but David Njoku still very much up in there. 107 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: But with Najoku out that Dylan Samson pointed out today 108 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: on that final drive. 109 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 3: At one point on the field, all the skill players 110 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 3: of rookies besides Jerry Judy. I mean, but I don't 111 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 3: think there's any other team whose rookies are contributing as 112 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 3: much as this, just collectively. So I mean, you know, 113 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 3: coaches understand it. But you know it's not an excuse. 114 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 3: You know, we go to practice, we go to work. 115 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 3: You know, it's time to grow, you know, and I 116 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 3: believe that is what we're doing. You know, we can 117 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 3: week out, you know, but we got each other back, 118 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 3: and we just gonna keep on growing and climbing, you know, 119 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 3: and continue trying to impact this team. In a Piloti 120 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: wik they. 121 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: Have the best rookie class in the NFL period, no 122 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: one's even close. You had Shador out there along with 123 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: both Samson and Judkins on the final possession, along with 124 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: Isaiah Bond, Harold Fannin. 125 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 2: And Gage Larvaden. So other than Jerry Judy. 126 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: Every single skill position player for most of the fourth 127 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: quarter was a rookie. Now, when they had two tight ends, 128 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: Whiteheart was out there as well. Obviously he is not 129 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: a rookie, but that's what that final possession was. That 130 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: was the crew that marched the team down the field 131 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: twice in the fourth quarter when it looked as if 132 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: the game was over, frankly, and that is reason for optimism. 133 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: And listen, you want to criticize the play, call, I 134 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: get it. You want Shador in the field, I get it. 135 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: If Quinn Shawn had flipped the ball, I think they're 136 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: scoring and we go to overtime. 137 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: Matter of fact, I feel pretty comfortable saying that. And 138 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna throw Q under the bus at all. 139 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: He's a young player who wants to win, is working 140 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: his tail off like one million percent. 141 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: Quin Shawn Judkins is a part of the Browns' success. 142 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: Love the guy. 143 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: But if you see larvatt Ann's actually not but and 144 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: if you see larvat Ann's reaction, he was expecting the 145 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: football I think reasonable people without actually looking at the x's. 146 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: And o's and I was drawn up on a whiteboard. 147 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 4: Know that. 148 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: Judging my body language, he's probably supposed to flip the 149 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: ball there, and if he does, I think the Browns 150 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: tied the game. Just go look at the AL twenty two. 151 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: He's probably finding a way to get the Browns those 152 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: two points and we're tied. And any football coach will 153 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: tell you this. If the play works, you're a genius. 154 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: If it doesn't, you're not You're the opposite, you know whatever, pejority, 155 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: if you want to call that coach. It didn't work, 156 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: It should have worked. I think it would have if 157 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: qued flip football. It happens, Mistakes happen just the way 158 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: it is. But there is room for encouragement, a lot 159 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: of encouragement. Harold Fannen had a buck fourteen receiving. He 160 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: had a beautiful high point catch in the back left 161 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: corner of the end zone to get the Browns to 162 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: within two. 163 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 2: Harold Fannen now joins Ozzy Newsom. That is Hall of Famer. 164 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: Ozzie Newsom is the only Browns rookie tight ends in 165 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: history to get one hundred yards in a game. First 166 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: Brown's rookie with one hundred yards receiving since Corey Coleman. 167 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: Remember him back in twenty sixteen. And not only is 168 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: he leading the team with fifty nine receptions, that is 169 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: tied for fourth most as a Brown's rookie. The guy's 170 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: amazing and Carson Schwessinger had twelve more tackles. Jerry Judy 171 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: got it going. Quinn Shawan had the fifty eight yard 172 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 1: screen pass. The running numbers weren't there. There was not 173 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: a lot of room to run. I mean that is 174 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: a negative here. Browns couldn't run the ball and they 175 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: couldn't stop the run. That is not a headline I 176 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: ever expected after this game. Couldn't run the ball, couldn't 177 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 1: stop the run. Tony Pollard had an amazing day for 178 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: the Titans, and Miles Garrett said, yeah, that's on us. 179 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: Didn't expect that. Alex Wright said the same thing, say 180 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: that wasn't exactly complicated stuff. The Titans were running. We 181 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 2: should have stopped it. They didn't. 182 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: Defensively, Miles got a sack, he got to twenty, which 183 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: is just bonkers. He got two more TFLs, so he 184 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: has thirty TFLs tackles for a loss. 185 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: Just perspective. Here, only one other player in the history 186 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 2: of the National Football League has a thirty TfL season. 187 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: His name is JJ Watt. He holds the record with 188 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: thirty nine. Miles is nine away from said record with 189 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: four games to go. He very well could get it. 190 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 4: To me. 191 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: That's as significant, if not more significant, than the sack record. 192 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: Now, as for the sack in the moment and full disclosure, 193 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 2: my eyes aren't that cut. 194 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: I know that sometimes sometimes I get the IDs wrong, 195 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: especially when there's five bodies in the middle of a 196 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: line and you're like, all right, like three guys got 197 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: there for the tackle. 198 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 2: Okay, I know, I know that that sometimes I don't 199 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 2: get those right. 200 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: In the moment, I said, Alex right and Miles Garrett 201 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: got there at the same time to share the sack, 202 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: so there. 203 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 2: Is no like and we're going, oh, we got twenty 204 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: because I thought they got there at the same time. 205 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: Miles was awarded the sack. 206 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: When we talked about it at halftime, and I say, 207 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: we like the collective, the collected media. Everyone assembled in 208 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: the press box at halftime. Everybody goes and grabs something 209 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: to eat, a cup of coffee. You know, you catch up? 210 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: What do you think? What do you think? What do 211 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 2: you see? 212 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: All you look at the scores every other game from 213 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: around the league is on big wall of TVs in 214 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: the press box at Huntingdon bank Field. A bunch of 215 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: us are like, did Alex writ get there first? Some 216 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 1: people thought Miles did. Some people thought Alex did. I 217 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: in the moment thought I got there at the exact 218 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: same time. When I watch it again, I think Miles 219 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: got there first, truly now was by a half second. 220 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 2: It was kind of a bang bang. 221 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: Alex Wright was asked about it today, who was on 222 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: a zoom with the Browns media, and he kind of 223 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: had that smile on his face, like, I'm not going 224 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: to say that I got it. I'm not going to 225 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: say that I got it. Don't matter, like it's a 226 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: team sack. I'm cool, Miles got it. He's like, maybe 227 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: I think I got there first, and I maybe pushed 228 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: cam Ward into Miles maybe, but either way, I said 229 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 1: they were joking about it, he and Miles on the 230 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: sideline joking about a Monday morning in the film as well, 231 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: and Alex was Alex Wright was asked point blank today, hey, 232 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: like in film, did the coaches give you a half sack? 233 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: And he wouldn't say. He wouldn't. It doesn't matter. 234 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 1: And I'm also told from my good friend Mike Arifolo 235 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: from NFL Network NFL Insider said that he is checked 236 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: with the league office and they're. 237 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: Not going to change it. 238 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: They looked at it not getting changed, So they looked 239 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: at it Sunday like either during the game or shortly thereafter, 240 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: and the official score will stand on that call. It 241 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: is a full sack for Miles Garrett, not a half 242 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 1: sack with Alex Wright. So Miles does have twenty Devin 243 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: Bush nine tackles, two PBUs and an int I Actually, 244 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: if you go back and listen to the call, I 245 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: thought I thought Devin Bush was going to go. He 246 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: had one man to get around, and an offensive lineman 247 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: got him and shoved him to the sideline. If he 248 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: had gotten by that one guy. You saw quinchn outrun 249 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: the angle earlier on the screen, very similar position, very similar, 250 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,719 Speaker 1: And I thought Devin Bush was going to go. 251 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 4: He didn't. 252 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: It's a great return, regardless on the injury front. To 253 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: mention why Teller is already out next week, Ethan Posk, 254 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: we have to talk about that. It is just heartbreaking. 255 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: I believe it was his fifty seventh start for the 256 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: Browns at center. He's going to be a free agent. 257 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: As you know, most of that old line other than 258 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: Luke Whippler and Zack Zenner and Dwan Jones are going 259 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: to be free agents. 260 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 2: And he's done. 261 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: He has a torn achilles and you can see when 262 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: Kevin is out there it's a serious injury. Everybody obviously 263 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 1: out there tapping up Ethan Postak and he was carted off, 264 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: and then Ethan tapped his chest and pointed to the sky. 265 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: Ethan does not say a lot. He is a very 266 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: very quiet dude. But he's a sharp guy, and he 267 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: works his tail off and his teammates love him. So 268 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: Luke Whippler is ready to step in. I'm a Luke 269 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: Whippler fan. Both can be true. I wish Ethan post 270 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: I could finish the season, and I wish he doesn't 271 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: have such a long road to recovery. 272 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: He is a locker room leader. 273 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: He has been instrumental the last couple of weeks with 274 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: getting the line calls right and the protections right for 275 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: Shudore and with shoud Or Sanders with a rookie quarterback. 276 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: Also instrumental obviously with Dylan Gabriel as well. But when 277 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: you have rookie excuse me, when you have rookie quarterbacks, 278 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: a veteran center means so much, means so much. Someone 279 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: who has done this before, somebody who started one hundred 280 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: games in this league, somebody who can give you a 281 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: second set of eyes and set those protections. 282 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: And Ethan Postik will truly be missed. 283 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: Hope he's back in some fashion, but his long road 284 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: to recovery for a veteran center on a torn achilles 285 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: we certainly certainly wish him the best. When Alice Wright 286 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: was asked about it today, he said he was heartbroken, 287 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: just flat out heartbroken. But he said that Poe was 288 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: in the building at the Cross Country Mortgage Campus on 289 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: Monday in the training room and is already in good 290 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: spirits and ready to attack this rehab. 291 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: All right, this is cool. 292 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: I think he might have been on once last year, 293 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: but it's always good when a Hall of Famer is 294 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: here from NFL Game Day morning. 295 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 2: Let's call him the star of NFL Game Day Warning, 296 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: Hall of Famer Kurt Warner. It is good to see you. 297 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Bark Tank. 298 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 4: Thank you. Good to see you as my friend. 299 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: How's everything back in sunny Inglewood, California. 300 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, everything is good. 301 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 5: I'm excited about the I'm excited about the game tonight, 302 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 5: but I'm excited about how the season is gonna shake up. 303 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 5: It's been a fun season. There's a lot of unknowns 304 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 5: at this point, so it's life is good. 305 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we record this right before the Big Chargers 306 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: Eagles game. Omari and Hampton the Charger running back just 307 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: got activated, so he's back from IR He's going to 308 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: be there obviously a big PLAYFF implications in both conferences, 309 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: in both the NFC and the AFC. Before we get 310 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: to the Browns here, I just got to go back 311 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: because Buckeye. 312 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 2: Fans are gonna want to know about this. Go back 313 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: last week. Why didn't you. I thought you guys would 314 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 2: hammer Rich Moore in the A block at six o'clock Pacific. 315 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 5: You know, for me, Andrew, I'm not I'm not this 316 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 5: huge college guy, you know. I mean, I love watching 317 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 5: my boys play. I don't have a huge affiliation obviously 318 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 5: because I played at a smaller school. So that's not 319 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 5: That's not my gig, even though you know Rich does 320 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 5: rub it in when when they win. 321 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 4: You think, I kind of just left that to Mooch 322 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 4: to to do. 323 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 5: But you know, like I'm an NFL guy, so you know, 324 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 5: we can hammer a little bit on the Jets, but 325 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 5: but not so much on the wall. 326 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: Hey, the Jets pete the Browns. I thought, lukela Sword, 327 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: we'll pull back the curtain here. Lukelasword who produces NFL 328 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: game did morning. I thought Luke was going to come 329 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: out with like double guns and just like destroy Rich. 330 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 2: Not that I wanted it to happen. 331 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: I was just there for the drama, knowing everything that 332 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: goes on, especially in that very first minute or two 333 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: at the start of the show after a huge Michigan 334 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: Ohio state game or whatever. 335 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 4: Something that well you also know too, Andrew, is that 336 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 4: we've got a four hour show. 337 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 5: Yes, so if Rich comes out of the blocks and 338 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 5: he's not feeling it in the first five minutes, that 339 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 5: can make. 340 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 4: For a long show, a rough show. So that might 341 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 4: be part of the reason why we just, you know, 342 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 4: just kind of he knows, everybody knows. We'll just kind 343 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 4: of leave it at that. 344 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 2: And yes, I do understand that. 345 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: And by the way, I am not in any way 346 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 1: suggesting that Rich deserved it. 347 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 2: You know me, I was just looking for the entertainment 348 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 2: value here, and I do, by the way, Rich like 349 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 2: appreciate every time you have me in on the appropriately 350 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: named and now distributed by ESPN Fantastic Rich Eisen Show. 351 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 2: Love being there. All right, let's get to shador. 352 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: I think, Kurt like the big think from the stats 353 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: are the stats, obviously, but a lot of it passed 354 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: the eye test and I think Kevin Stefanski said said 355 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: the most important thing out loud today is that he's 356 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: gotten better every single game. And I know they lost, 357 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: and there's a lot to nitpick, but what did you 358 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: think of the way shod Or played against the Titans Sunday? 359 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, first, getting better. Second, I think they're 360 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 5: allowing him to do a little bit more each game 361 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 5: as well. You know, I thought the first couple of 362 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 5: games they didn't really let him do all that much, 363 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 5: you know, but each game he's he's made some plays, 364 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 5: and he's made some big time throws and some throws 365 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 5: that you look and you say, those are NFL throws. 366 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 5: Those are NFL plays that he's making, you know, as 367 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 5: with Denny Rookie, not not a finished product yet, there's 368 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 5: things you want to see get better. But I think 369 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 5: he's shown enough and he's earned the right to say, 370 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 5: you know, show us if you can be an NFL quarterback, 371 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 5: show us and not an NFL quarterback, because I think 372 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 5: he's shown us that he can play at this level. 373 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 5: Show us that you can be a starting NFL quarterback 374 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 5: and lead a franchise. And so that to me, if 375 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 5: you've you've started a few games. That's that's what the 376 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 5: statement you want to make. I mean, I remember when 377 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 5: I started back in ninety nine. That was what I 378 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 5: wanted to do too. Is each game say Okay, I 379 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,959 Speaker 5: deserve a shot at this, Like not that I'm I'm 380 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 5: there yet or not that I'm that guy, but I 381 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 5: deserve a shot at this. And that to me is 382 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 5: what you do or has has shown in these three games, 383 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 5: and maybe you know more so than any yesterday. I 384 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 5: thought he made a number of really good plays. He 385 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 5: showed the accuracy that that he had in college, the 386 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 5: touch on the football, he throws a very catchable ball, 387 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 5: and he's shown that he can make some of those 388 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 5: big time throws. 389 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 4: You know. 390 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 5: I know a lot of people came into I doesn't 391 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 5: have the strongest whatever. I mean, I didn't have the 392 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 5: strongest arm either. You got to be able to make 393 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 5: the throws you're supposed to make. And he's shown us 394 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 5: that he can make those throws and so all of 395 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 5: that stuff, you know, And I think coach came out 396 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 5: and said, you know, he's gonna be the start of 397 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 5: the rest of the year. I think that's what it's 398 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 5: proven to us. These first three games. Has proven that 399 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 5: he deserves this shot to show Cleveland or anybody else 400 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 5: around the league that he belongs. 401 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 4: In this role. 402 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: From a coaching standpoint, if you're getting drilled on footwork right, 403 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: whether it's subtle pocket movement or when you're outside of 404 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: the pocket, remembering reset your feed right, like get your 405 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: mechanics straight before you let that ball out. And obviously 406 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: that's a little more difficult on the run when you're 407 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: getting chased here, How difficult is it to take the 408 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: stuff from practice and actually put it into a game 409 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: like baseball, football. Lot of the stuff, Hey, I drill it, 410 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: I drill it, I drill it. But then when I'm 411 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: out there, my instincts take over and sometimes my mechanics 412 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: break down. Seemingly For shador, a lot of the little 413 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: mechanical things that I know they're working with him on 414 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: have for the most part seen improvement on game day. 415 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's creating a new normal. 416 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 5: You know, it doesn't matter, you know how many times 417 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 5: we practice something if it's not our normal. When you're 418 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 5: not focused solely on that, you're going to go back 419 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 5: to your normal. So when you're worried about what an 420 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 5: NFL defense is doing or you're worried about, you know, 421 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 5: somebody chasing at Jeffers Simmons chasing after you. You know, 422 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 5: in a game, you're just going to revert back to 423 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 5: what has become your normal. And that's why, you know, 424 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 5: you can stay up on technique stuff and you can 425 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 5: find tune and you can work on it, but if 426 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 5: it's not your normal, it really comes down to what 427 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 5: you got to do in the off season, right, You've 428 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 5: got to create that new normal for yourself. And so yeah, 429 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 5: I mean with Shador, I mean, you know, you go 430 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 5: back to Colorado and he's got a tendency at times 431 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 5: to kind of float in the pocket, to not get 432 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 5: set and stick that back butt in the ground. But 433 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 5: when he does those things, he's extremely accurate. And I 434 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 5: think a lot of that can also come down to 435 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 5: Andrew being comfortable with the plays that you're running and 436 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 5: what you're expecting from those plays and the timing of 437 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 5: those plays. 438 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 4: You know, one thing that I've. 439 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 5: Seen what you do or is there's times where guys 440 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 5: come open early in the in the on schedule of 441 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 5: the play and he's not quite ready to make the throw, 442 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 5: he's not quite set yet, or it's almost as if 443 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 5: he doesn't think it's going to come open, and so 444 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 5: you know, he's kind of playing for what's coming next 445 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 5: and then boom, all of a sudden, something pops open. 446 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 5: And so that usually tells me that he's not fully 447 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 5: comfortable with that play or what he's seeing. And I 448 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 5: think those are all things that as you play more, 449 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 5: as you get more comfortable, as you you know, fine 450 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 5: tune an offense maybe even more to what should do 451 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 5: or likes or what he's really comfortable with that you 452 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 5: hope those things and he'll settle into those things because 453 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 5: you know when he looks confident and when he looks 454 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 5: comfortable with what he's doing. 455 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 4: Like I said, he's been. 456 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 5: Making a lot of throws and a lot of plays, 457 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 5: you know, down the field, and you know the throws 458 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 5: that that that you saw him, you know, make it 459 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 5: college that led him to this point talking. 460 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 2: To whole of Mberkurt Warner here, and I think it's 461 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 2: it's really the processing. It's not like, oh I don't 462 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 2: know the play. 463 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: It's like, all right, well, how quickly, Kurt, like take 464 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: us back to your first year. Now, granted you had 465 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: a couple of years obviously your your journey well documented here. 466 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: You weren't thrown in five minutes after you got out 467 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: of college. But how long did it take you to 468 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: feel comfortable going all right, I'm going to go one, two, three, 469 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: But I can decide quickly that one and two aren't there, 470 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: and I got to get to three. Yeah, how how 471 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: long did it take you? It takes me forever to 472 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 1: get the question out to speed up the processing. 473 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 5: I mean again, we got to just look at different 474 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 5: individuals as well, Like you know that that was my 475 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 5: greatest strength Andrew, it was processing seeing it, but so 476 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 5: much of it came back to understanding what we were 477 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 5: trying to do as an offense. And so you know, 478 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 5: I always talk about, you know, having your play designer, 479 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 5: play caller seeing the game like you see the game 480 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 5: as a quarterback, and so the plays are designed in 481 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 5: a manner that fits how you play the game as 482 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 5: a quarterback. And so I was fortunate with that, whether 483 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 5: that was in college even playing arena football, and then 484 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 5: when I got with Mike Martz, is that those guys 485 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 5: understood the game and saw the game and built plays 486 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 5: around what I did and how I played, And so 487 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,959 Speaker 5: that made the process so easy, Like I would get 488 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 5: a play and I'm like, oh, I get it that, 489 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 5: I get exactly what we're trying to do. 490 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 4: Like they don't even have to teach it to me. 491 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 5: I know he's gonna want me to go here against 492 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 5: cover two, and this is what he's looking for against man, 493 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 5: and this is what we're looking for if we get 494 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 5: a corner off. Like I understood that because you know, 495 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 5: we saw and we spoke the same language. I know 496 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 5: that sounds like, oh, we shouldn't every coach and every 497 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 5: quarterback see it and speak the same language. 498 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 4: Well, they just don't. 499 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 5: And you know, so I always use the analogy that 500 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 5: you could take three Hall of Fame quarterbacks and you 501 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 5: could put one play up on the board and you 502 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 5: might have one of them that just loves the play 503 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 5: and the next guy's. 504 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 4: Like, I get it, you know it's okay, I could 505 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 4: run it. 506 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 5: And then you might have a third that goes, I 507 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 5: hate that play, like I don't like that play at all, 508 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 5: and you're like, how is that possible? You know that 509 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 5: you all do this at an extremely high level and 510 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 5: one likes it because just the way we process information 511 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 5: is just different. And so I think a big part 512 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 5: of that is always, you know, the quarterback and the 513 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 5: play caller, a play designer getting on the same page 514 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 5: of how they see the game. And so when you 515 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 5: have a guy like Shadu or who's you know, is 516 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 5: in a backup role and they're trying to get you know, 517 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 5: Joe Flack already and they're trying to get Dylan ready, 518 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 5: and all of a sudden they you know, now. 519 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 4: It Shadur's turn. 520 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 5: And how does that all fit together in terms of 521 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 5: building an offense or building plays that fit the guy 522 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 5: that's behind center at that particular time. So those are 523 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 5: all things that I think, you know, you can grow 524 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 5: and develop and fine tune now that he's in that 525 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 5: spot and they get a chance to work together and 526 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 5: maybe shape some things more around what should do. 527 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 4: Or likes to do or is done in the past. 528 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: Is curious, curious how your transition would have gone if 529 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: you had a similar setup here with all the rookies. 530 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: So Dylan Samson, the rookie running back out of Tennessee, 531 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: made the point today and honestly it didn't even hit 532 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: us calling the game in the booth that when David 533 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: Nijoku left he got banged up with a knee on 534 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: that touchdown catch great placement by the way, Shador hitting 535 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: him in the corner there on that touchdown. But once 536 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: he left the game on that final drive in the 537 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, you had Jerry Judy and then everybody else 538 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: was a rookie, Isaiah bond, Gage, larvad An, Harold Fannin, 539 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: Dylan Sampson, quinch On Judkins Kirk. Could you imagine being 540 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: thrown into that situation as a rookie yourself. 541 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know, I think on the outside, 542 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 5: you know it's you know, it's impressive, and you know 543 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 5: you think about all the factors that go into it. 544 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 5: On the inside, you say the same thing that you're 545 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 5: saying as a quarterback, like I know how to play 546 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 5: the game, I know how to do the right thing. 547 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 5: I'm going to expect all those other guys to do 548 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 5: the right thing. It doesn't matter that we're young. We've 549 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 5: all played a lot of football, and it's about going 550 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 5: out and doing your job. And you do your job 551 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 5: so I can do my job, and that's all you 552 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 5: think about in those situations. You don't expect somebody because 553 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 5: they're a rookie not to do what they're supposed to do. 554 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 5: There's a reason they're in the lineup. There's a reason 555 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 5: that they're on the football team. So you know, again 556 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 5: from the outside, it's always impressive because you understand, when 557 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 5: you have a lot of young guys that are seeing 558 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 5: a situation for the first time, you can't necessarily expect 559 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 5: them to all do the right thing and all make 560 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 5: the plays that they have to make. But as a 561 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 5: competitor and this guy that played in this league, you know, 562 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 5: when I went in there in my first start. 563 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 4: I expected to play well. I expected to do the 564 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 4: right thing and make the rows that I've always made. 565 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 5: And so that really is how you look at it 566 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 5: from a playing standpoint, although we might, you know, see 567 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 5: it a little bit different obviously, when you know we're 568 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 5: in the media and we understand, you know, it's not 569 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 5: that every rookie can go in and perform under those 570 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 5: kind of conditions and perform well to give your team 571 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 5: a chance to win. 572 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: All right, one last thing and a little kerr ball here, 573 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: Steelers Ravens. I'm sure he caught a couple of minutes 574 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: of that on Sunday. Are reports of Aaron Rodgers' demise exaggerated? 575 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 4: You know, I mean, I think Aaron is who he 576 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 4: is at this point in time. 577 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 5: I think the difference in this game for me was 578 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 5: they hit some big plays down the field, and the 579 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 5: big plays down the. 580 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 4: Field were really just go routes. 581 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 5: They started early in the game and they hit a 582 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 5: go route to DK and they hit you know, two 583 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 5: or three more throughout the game. So you know, Aaron, 584 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 5: I still think isn't quite comfortable playing inside the pocket 585 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 5: on schedule and working through things like he did earlier 586 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 5: in his career. But I just can still throw the 587 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 5: football like that. I don't know if anybody's ever said 588 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 5: that he couldn't, you know, and if that was part 589 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 5: of the demise. But you know, he knows where he 590 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 5: wants to throw it. He can throw it as well 591 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 5: as he ever has, or as well as anybody in 592 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 5: this league. And so that's not a factor in it. 593 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 5: They just have to get better offensively. But but that 594 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 5: to me was the difference in that game. Is he 595 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 5: obviously made some great plays, made some plays on the 596 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 5: on the move at the you know, the rushing touchdown, 597 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 5: but it was those big throws down the field in 598 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 5: those one on one situations that was the difference for him. 599 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 2: All Right, I know you've talked to Aaron Rodgers and 600 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 2: should or on your YouTube page. Can you want to 601 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 2: give that a plug? 602 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 3: Uh? 603 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just QB Confidential on YouTube. 604 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 5: You know. 605 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 4: I got my website. 606 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 5: Qbconfidential dot com too for people that want to learn 607 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 5: more about the game. So always just breaking things down 608 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 5: and trying to teach and help people learn. 609 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: And that's the best part about it. It's not like these, 610 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 2: you know, quick cut ups here for TikTok. 611 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: Kurt's doing like forty five minutes where he's showing you 612 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,719 Speaker 1: a play from one angle at another angle and three 613 00:29:58,800 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: and four times. 614 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 2: And hey, this what we used to call this. This 615 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 2: is what these guys call this. 616 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: This is my first read here, first read should have 617 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: been here, left Guard missed the block. 618 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 2: It's great stuff, Kurt. I appreciate you doing this in 619 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 2: short notice, my friend. 620 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: Happy holidays to you, Brenda, the entire family hope to 621 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: see us soon, sir. 622 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 5: All right, buddy, I have to see you as well, 623 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 5: and happy holidays to you and everybody that's listening as well. 624 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 2: Thank you, sir. 625 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: The Hall of Famer Kurt Warner Quarterback Confidential. Honestly, it's 626 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: really really, really good stuff, and there's sometimes where Kurtill 627 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: text me is like, hey, what do you think of 628 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: this play for the Browns or that play for the Browns. 629 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: I'm looking at their tape now. The guy's awesome. Check 630 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: out his YouTube page. It's really, really, really in depth. 631 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: If you're a QB, a play design nerd, it's great 632 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: stuff because, like I said, he will tell you that, like, hey, 633 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: in four or five different offenses, this is what this 634 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: is called. This is why it works in this offense. 635 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: I think this is a bad play. Like, it's not 636 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: the quarterback's fault. This is a horrible play design. 637 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 4: Browns. 638 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 2: Here, I'm just saying in general, So check it out. 639 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: Time for what sizzlin for Zenoviy Sugar Dell. We told 640 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,479 Speaker 1: you about the Steelers obviously and Aaron Rodgers. 641 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 2: They did win. They did beat the Ravens. Honestly, I 642 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 2: think Isaiah likely caught the touchdown. That's just me. But 643 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 2: the Steelers are seven and six and the Ravens are 644 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 2: six and seven, and then down the stretch we come 645 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 2: with four more games left for everybody. 646 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: As for the Bengals, they lose, They lost, and again 647 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: they blew a ten point fourth quarterly, Like, how does 648 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: that happen? But it did happen because Josh Allen is 649 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: utterly ridiculous. The big story today for the Bengals, and 650 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: there are two of them, is that Trey Hendrickson is 651 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: done for the year, and it is fair to ask 652 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: has Trey Hendrickson played his last game at a Bengals uniform. 653 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: We have not seen him since Week six. He needs 654 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: core like mid section surgery, abdominal surgery. 655 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: They are shutting him down. 656 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: Who knows what the Bengals defense is going to look 657 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: like in the offseason af to do a major overhaul 658 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: is again they blew another lead. 659 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 2: It happens. 660 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: And also Jeremiah Burton, second year wide receiver out of Alabama, 661 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: he was suspended before the game yesterday without pay. They 662 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: didn't dress him. Remember there was that game late last 663 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: year where they suspended him because he didn't show up 664 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: for the workout or the walkthrough something like that the 665 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: day before. Anyway, they just fight, I'll cut him. They said, 666 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: we're good, We're done here. So those are the stories 667 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: around the AFC North as the Bengals are not officially eliminated, 668 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,959 Speaker 1: but they are all but out of it after losing 669 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: that game, blowing that lead in Buffalo. 670 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 2: So that's it. 671 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: It's on to Chicago and you get a very good 672 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: Bears team coming up on Sunday at Soldier Field. If 673 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: you thought it was cold at Huntington Bank Field on Sunday, 674 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: dress warmly if you are going to join us in Chicago, 675 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: because it could be like twelve degrees Sunday. Like that's 676 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: the temperature, not the wind chill, like the temperature. 677 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 2: It could be twelve degrees in Chicago. 678 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: Please join me and Nathan and Gerard for the one 679 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: o'clock kick and see the pregame on the University Hospitals 680 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Radio Network three hours before all of that. 681 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 2: For the fun stuff, this has been the Bark Tank. 682 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening and liking and sharing and subscribing. My 683 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 2: name is Andrew Siciliano, So loc everybody,