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Speaker 3: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 3: Sexton Show podcast O. Welcome in.

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Speaker 1: It is finally Election Day, twenty twenty four. I hope

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Speaker 1: all of you are having a fantastic start to the week,

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Speaker 1: particularly if you are in frigid planet of hot Style, Iowa,

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Speaker 1: where all of you have the ability to set the

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Speaker 1: national agenda for the very first time. Four months years

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Speaker 1: even we have been talking about what the votes were

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Speaker 1: going to look like in twenty twenty four, and at

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Speaker 1: long last, today we will begin to hear from the

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Speaker 1: people themselves. No polls nothing else other than a lot

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Speaker 1: of individual caucuses. Feels like it should be caucasi perhaps

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Speaker 1: caucuses all over the state of Iowa and buck the

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Speaker 1: battle it appears, I say, it appears to be over

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Speaker 1: who is going to come in second place? As Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump has apparently opened up a big lead. There was

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Speaker 1: an expectation that we could see record turnout for these caucuses,

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Speaker 1: two hundred thousand or more. The weather has thrown that

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Speaker 1: a bit into an uproar. No one seems to know

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Speaker 3: I followed it. I'm sure you did as well. Buck.

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Speaker 1: Over the weekend, every candidate, according to the candidate, having

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Speaker 1: massive turnouts, everyone with fabulous momentum. The veak Ramaswami's arguing it,

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Speaker 3: Ron DeSantis is arguing it. Donald Trump is.

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Speaker 1: And so we will wait and tomorrow, when we come on,

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Speaker 1: we will have the first victor of twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Cannot wait on that. Fannie Willis finally has come out

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Speaker 1: and addressed the allegations against her at a church service

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Speaker 1: of all places. And whenever you say, hey, do you

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Speaker 1: expect me to be perfect, probably a pretty big sign

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Speaker 3: We will get into.

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Speaker 1: That, but this is Iowa caucus analysis day, the final

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Speaker 1: one where we won't have actual votes cast, and Buck,

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Speaker 1: would you buy in with me that we expect the

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Speaker 1: overall story to be who is going to come in

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Speaker 1: second place? If Ron DeSantis comes in second place, I

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Speaker 1: think that's actually good for Trump because Nikki Haley is

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Speaker 1: that would really throw things into an uproar. What's your

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, As you know, media loves to

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Speaker 2: I think the good, sturdy people of Iowa are prepared

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Speaker 2: You a worthwhile information that's a big story going into

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry the weather, but what you talked about, Clay,

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Speaker 2: there's a possibility if Nicky Haley comes in second, You'll

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Speaker 2: To me, NICKI do you want to be vice president?

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Speaker 2: But another big story over the weekend. We haven't mentioned

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Speaker 3: Are we all ready for this? Here you go?

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Speaker 2: Trump tweeted, or rather truthed, sorry on truth social of

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Speaker 2: A vote for a Veke is a wasted vote. I

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Speaker 2: like Viveke, but he played it too cute with the

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Speaker 2: caucus tonight. Vote for Donald Trump, build up the numbers

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Speaker 2: in November. We must take back our very troubled nation

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Speaker 2: a nation and decline. Actually this isn't even the worst.

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Speaker 2: There's another truth.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know.

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Speaker 2: This is the second one. A nation decline back from

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Speaker 2: crooked Joe Biden. But he tweeted out I keep saying, tweeted.

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Speaker 2: He truthed out Clay. Essentially the big the big headline

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Speaker 2: was Viveke is not maga. That is what he says.

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Speaker 2: After all of this, What do you make of that?

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Speaker 2: I mean, should we just have expected this was coming?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Look I've got the actual truth I think in front

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, now all.

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Speaker 1: He does is disguise his support in the form of

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Speaker 1: Veke is not maga, Okay. So that is a direct attack.

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Speaker 1: And we said at some point that this might happen.

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Speaker 1: Buck Yes, they will anything Trump does, they will defend.

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Speaker 3: Because it was like a life switch.

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Speaker 1: Everybody by and large had been pretty positive in Trump

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Speaker 1: Suddenly Viveke was awful. It was like Trump had ordered

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Speaker 1: the code red on Viveke. And I think Viveke. I

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Speaker 3: But I can be better.

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Speaker 1: At some point, if he became a threat, you knew

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Speaker 1: this is Viveke potentially gonna get ten percent or so

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Speaker 3: At some point the shark becomes tired. I don't say that.

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Speaker 2: Without respect for the fact that Viveke is a is

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Speaker 2: Because you can only have one president, and Trump is

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Speaker 2: also to your point about people changing their minds about Viveke.

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Speaker 2: I want all the people that say Rush would have

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Speaker 2: have endorsed Nikki Haley because he actually would have endorsed nobody,

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Speaker 2: because people are they're all saying, oh, you know this

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Speaker 3: Yes, And I think there's a lot of that in general.

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Speaker 1: And I would just I always think of the politics

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Speaker 1: There's so much for your claim, so much for your

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Speaker 5: Some people are saying, the best hair in the world

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Speaker 3: He's written this piece.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I thought it was an interesting piece because

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Speaker 2: Well, this is what I mean, This is why it's

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Speaker 1: is going to be covered. It is impossible for everyone

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Speaker 1: out there listening to us right now not to be

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Speaker 1: immersed in Democrat Party talking points because the overall media

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Speaker 1: leans so far to the left that even if you

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Speaker 1: are a died in the wold. Trump supporter Aron DeSantis

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Speaker 1: or Nikki Haley or ve Gromaswami, whoever you're going to

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Speaker 1: go support today in Iowa and in the future primaries

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Speaker 1: in your state. Even the talking points of people on

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Speaker 1: the right who are running for president are very cognizant

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Speaker 1: of all the arguments that are being made on the left.

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Speaker 1: The left is not very knowledgeable about what's actually said

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Speaker 1: on the right because they're dominant in so many different

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Speaker 1: aspects of the media industry that they don't even pay

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Speaker 1: attention to the arguments that are coming from the right.

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Speaker 1: I think about this buck when, and we talked about

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Speaker 1: this a little bit, but it happened in sports last

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Speaker 1: week when Aaron Rodgers went on ESPN and just basically

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Speaker 1: castigated doctor Fauci and everyone else who had ridiculed him

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Speaker 1: for not getting the COVID shot and talked about the

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Speaker 1: fact that it didn't work, and that meaning the COVID

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Speaker 1: shot didn't work, and that all the boosters are worthless

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Speaker 1: by and large, and that it had not fulfilled the expectation.

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Speaker 1: And you you could hear left wingers' brains exploding because

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Speaker 1: they aren't ever exposed to those arguments, and so it's

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Speaker 1: considered to be and you know this because you lived

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Speaker 1: in New York City, but there's a certain wilful blindness

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Speaker 1: to endorsing the Democrat Party arguments. You don't even bother

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Speaker 1: engaging with the arguments of the other side and explaining

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Speaker 1: why they are wrong. You just know that your side

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Speaker 1: is right because they believe in science and they believe

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Speaker 1: in democracy, and you never actually are forced to examine

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Speaker 1: why someone else might believe the other side, and so

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Speaker 1: you have a one way argument. I would argue that's

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Speaker 1: what made Gavin Newsom so flabby in the argument in

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Speaker 1: the debate that he had with Ron DeSantis, because people

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Speaker 1: on the left aren't ever forced to engage with the

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Speaker 1: arguments of the right, whereas the right is forced to

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Speaker 1: constantly engage in the arguments of the left. So our

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Speaker 1: rhetorical ski are way more refined. I really believe that.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is.

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Speaker 2: Why college Republicans, you know, you see these kids sometimes

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Speaker 2: even pop up on TV. They'll be like a senior

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Speaker 2: at you know, name some college somewhere, senior at Hillsdale College,

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Speaker 2: and they appear on TV with the polish of a

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Speaker 2: professional broadcaster, and it's because they've spent the last you know,

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Speaker 2: eight years of their life basically arguing with high school

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Speaker 2: teachers and college professors and getting good at it, whereas

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Speaker 2: a lot of liberals, even in elite schools, are racist.

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Speaker 1: You know, does that happen to you, Buck, where you

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Speaker 1: get into a conversation with somebody who's a little bit

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Speaker 1: left leaning and you share something that is fact and

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Speaker 1: they just have no idea it ever existed.

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Speaker 2: I love when they when they stutter with the or

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Speaker 2: you know, they they're they're stumped with something like, well,

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Speaker 2: I need to go I need to go check on that.

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Speaker 3: You know, They're like, they don't accept your facts.

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Speaker 2: I've come across that a lot, although I try not

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Speaker 2: to talk social stuff or political stuff at social settings

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Speaker 2: unless i'm where I was like this past weekend where

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Speaker 2: everyone's you know, Navy or Marine and they're all they're

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Speaker 2: all on board for America.

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Speaker 3: That was a lot of fun. I'll talk about that later.

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Speaker 2: But Clay, the the interesting thing to me is in this,

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Speaker 2: in this Brett Stevens Peace, it is it is trying

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Speaker 2: to sort of slowly open the eyes of the Democrats

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Speaker 2: who I think have been led to believe and this

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Speaker 2: could all change, but led to believe at this point,

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Speaker 2: we don't even have to make the case for Biden

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Speaker 2: or even make it against Trump. The Justice Department's going

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Speaker 2: to do it for us. The prosecutors are going to

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Speaker 2: finish this off. It's looking less and less likely that

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Speaker 2: that's going to happen. And I think Stevens as a

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Speaker 2: service to Democrats who are the readership you know, I

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Speaker 2: mean you and I subscribe at the time, so we

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Speaker 2: can see what the enemy thinks. And the Washington Post,

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Speaker 2: by the way, so yes, yeah, I mean I'm reading

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Speaker 2: these things all the time.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, look, it's Paul Krugman again. He's gonna

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Speaker 3: say something that's wrong.

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Speaker 2: But the truth is if the Democrats do not wake

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Speaker 2: and by the way, this would be true of DeSantis

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Speaker 2: or Haley as well if they were the nominee. But this,

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Speaker 2: I'm just going to shout at the Republican and say

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Speaker 2: that he's a racist for pointing out the problems at

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Speaker 2: the border. It's it's going to lose. That's actually a

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Speaker 2: losing argument in America today. All the polls show it,

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Speaker 2: all the data shows it, and the Democrat Party has

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Speaker 2: a major, major challenge and then the other thing about

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Speaker 2: the improvement of life, where things going great, because there

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Speaker 2: are a lot of Democrats, especially along the coast, We've

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Speaker 2: got plenty of money who think things are going great.

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Speaker 2: Center the country doesn't feel that way, and particularly white,

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Speaker 2: non college educated, working class voters do not feel that way.

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Speaker 2: And they are a key constituency in some of the

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Speaker 2: swing and some of the swing states.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the thing that I thought that Brett Stevens

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Speaker 1: got particularly right was Trump nailing the issue with if

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Speaker 1: we don't have a border, we're not a nation. And

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Speaker 1: as you see the mayors of Chicago and New York

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Speaker 1: and Washington, d c. And even Denver recently all begging

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Speaker 1: for the flow of migrants to stop. Did you see

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Speaker 1: Jmi Pritzker on I think it was ABC this week,

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Speaker 1: and we may have that audio that we'll play for

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Speaker 1: you later in the hour or next hour, where he

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Speaker 1: basically implored the governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, please stop

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Speaker 1: sending people to Chicago. We don't have the ability to

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Speaker 1: handle them anymore. And this is very important for everybody

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Speaker 1: out there. All of these cities are getting a pinprick

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Speaker 1: of what Texas deals with on a daily basis. And

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Speaker 1: so what Greg Abbott has proven is the flawed system

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Speaker 1: here of oh, we can't have border security that Trump

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Speaker 1: basically ran on in fifteen, he was one hundred percent right,

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Speaker 1: and importantly, buck he said a lot of things that

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Speaker 1: even Joe Biden himself said about border security back in

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Speaker 1: like two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine.

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Speaker 3: One of the big issues.

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Speaker 1: In American politics today, I would say in general, is

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Speaker 1: somebody can have the right idea, and if they're from

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Speaker 1: the opposing party, it automatically gets opposed just because the

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Speaker 1: flexive response is that person couldn't have a good idea,

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Speaker 1: we have to be opposed to it. The border wall

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Speaker 1: was not very controversial in two thousand and seven, like

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Speaker 1: the I certainly wasn't considered racist.

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Speaker 2: There was one thousand and seven. In two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 2: there was a Bipartisan Secure Fence Act and John McCain

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Speaker 2: was actually running ads back when he was the nominee,

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Speaker 2: talking about build the dang fence. That's that was the quote.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember that?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean but they were just pretending, is the point.

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Speaker 2: They weren't actually gonna build it. It was just little

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Speaker 2: pieces here and there.

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Speaker 1: But the fact that that somehow became categorized as racist,

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Speaker 1: and we need to talk about this. With the Fanny

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Speaker 1: Willis audio, the fact that she claimed, I think that

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Speaker 1: that that's racist. That argument has really collapsed, even on

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Speaker 1: the left. I don't see it having the same cogency

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Speaker 1: that it's had in years past. I think the racism card,

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Speaker 1: so to speak, has really started to collapse. And you've

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Speaker 1: seen it, right, Biden tried to go down to Charleston

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Speaker 1: and argue, hey, you know, they're racist Republicans all these things.

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Speaker 1: I think it's increasingly getting harder and harder for even

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Speaker 1: Democrats to make that argument. I think it's collapsing.

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Speaker 2: You know, I was just talking about Hillsdale a moment

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Speaker 2: ago and how impressive I've seen Hillsdale graduates out on

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Speaker 2: the scene, including sometimes when they even pop up on

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Speaker 2: TV to talk about issues of national importance. But Hillsdale

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Speaker 2: is the exception. Because there's a crisis in American education

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Speaker 2: right now, and for far too long, students haven't been

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Speaker 2: taught properly about our American heritage and our American history.

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Speaker 2: So many young Americans are rejecting the fundamental principles of

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Speaker 2: liberty and the constitutionalism that is the foundation of this country.

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Speaker 2: I mean, so many kids in college these days are

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Speaker 2: being taught the founding fathers or villains. They're old white men.

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Speaker 2: They're racist, they're toxic, they're bad well as a society.

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Speaker 2: This is a problem that we have allowed to go

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Speaker 2: on for far too long. Some are taking action, though,

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Speaker 2: Hillsdale College. Hillsdale College has been leading the way in

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Speaker 2: promoting civic education in the way that actually you want,

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Speaker 2: because they love and support and believe in America. This year,

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Speaker 2: Hillsdale's producing sixty second radio spots called Constitution Minutes, short

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Speaker 2: clear lessons on the principles of liberty, and you'll hear

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Speaker 2: them in this program. If you want to hear a

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Speaker 2: Constitution minute on demand, go to clayandbuckfour Hillsdale dot com.

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Speaker 2: That's Clay and buckfour Hillsdale dot com. And while you're there,

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Speaker 2: reserve a free pocket copy of the Constitution courtesy of

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Speaker 2: Hillsdale College. Clayandbuckfour Hillsdale dot com.

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Speaker 3: Again is that website.

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Speaker 2: Sanity in an Insane World The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 2: Sexton Show.

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Speaker 3: Welcome in our number three. Buck. This is the last

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Speaker 3: hour of the program.

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Speaker 1: We will do without there having been votes asked in

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four election.

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Speaker 3: Tomorrow, we will.

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Speaker 1: Be reacting to what all of you and Iowa elect

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Speaker 1: to do tonight in your respective caucuses all over the

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Speaker 1: frigid Hawkeye state. We hope that many of you listening

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Speaker 1: will go out and make.

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Speaker 3: Sure that you have your voices heard.

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Speaker 1: In fact, everyone who can vote in Iowa is an

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Speaker 1: incredibly privileged, incredible privilege. Around two hundred thousand of you

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Speaker 1: expected to be out. Your voice is going to be monumental.

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Speaker 1: And as Republicans head to the caucuses in Iowa, remember,

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Speaker 1: I think this important buck defender of democracy. Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: erased the Iowa caucus and the New Hampshire primary from

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Speaker 1: the Democrat calendar because he came in fourth and twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty in Iowa, fifth in New Hampshire, and he didn't

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Speaker 1: want any Democrat challengers. So I really think this is

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Speaker 1: a part of this story that has not talked about

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Speaker 1: very much. The reason why Democrats aren't having a caucus

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Speaker 1: tonight and the reason why the Democrat primary in New

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Speaker 1: Hampshire most of those pretty much being ignored, is because

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden changed. After decades of Iowa and New Hampshire,

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Speaker 1: both looming large for each political party. Joe Biden changed

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Speaker 1: the overall calendar because he did awful in both of

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Speaker 1: those states every time he's elected to run for president,

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Speaker 1: going all the way back to nineteen eighty eight and

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Speaker 1: buck if you remember, the reason why Iowa New Hampshire

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Speaker 1: have their popularity, have their importance at the beginning of

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Speaker 1: these presidential campaigns is the idea that voters in those

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Speaker 1: states get an opportunity to actually meet the candidates, get

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Speaker 1: to know them. I'll just point out that the voters

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Speaker 1: who have consistently gotten to know Joe Biden the best

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Speaker 1: have been consistently unimpressed by him and have not rendered

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Speaker 1: him to be a viable candidate for the presidency. Because

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Speaker 1: the overall story typically for Iowa is not that Iowa

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Speaker 1: selects the next president of the United States or even

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Speaker 1: the nominee for the presidency of the United States, but

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Speaker 1: just that they serve as a winnowing of the field.

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Speaker 1: In other words, that they cut it down to three

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Speaker 1: or so candidates. Now we really only have four candidates

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Speaker 1: even competing. I know Asa Hutchinson's still in the race

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Speaker 1: for some reason, but nobody is supporting him what I

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Speaker 1: think is interesting coming out of Iowa. And tell me

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Speaker 1: if you agree with this thesis. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: anybody's going to be dropping out, and everybody is going

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Speaker 1: to roll on to New Hampshire. And ultimately, the longer

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Speaker 1: these guys and gals all stay in the race, the

656
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Speaker 1: more it helps Trump because as long as Levak is there,

657
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Speaker 1: although take some votes away from Trump probably, but as

658
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Speaker 1: long as Nicky Haley and Ron DeSantis are both in

659
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: this race, there is no direct Trump alternative to be chosen,

660
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,959
Speaker 1: and that ultimately benefits Trump in a big way.

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Speaker 2: This is reminiscent of twenty sixteen, as we have discussed,

662
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Speaker 2: when there were two primary and three all together non

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Speaker 2: Trump candidates who had let's say double digit shares of

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Speaker 2: the vote or close to that, and Trump was able

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Speaker 2: to vanquish them effectively one by one because with too

666
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: many of them in, nobody could ever get a big

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Speaker 2: enough chunk of the electorate to defeat him.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a very good chance something like that

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Speaker 3: happens again.

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Speaker 2: And in this instance, you know, the individual incentive for

671
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Speaker 2: each of the candidates is I think very much to

672
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Speaker 2: stay in. You stay in as long as you can

673
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: Remember it's all about especially for the other the rest

674
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Speaker 2: of the field. Like you know, Bernie Sanders ran in

675
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 2: what in twenty twenty, It's kind of it for Bernie Sanders, right,

676
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: I mean it was gonna happen then it wasn't going

677
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: to happen again as a Democrat or as a politician

678
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Speaker 2: because of his age. Yeah, you know, you've got Nikki

679
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 2: Haley rhondasan. I mean, Viveke is younger than you or me. Yeah, Oh,

680
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Speaker 2: that's kind of crazy you think about it. I think

681
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 2: Vevec is thirty eight. Yeah, and they have truly decades

682
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 2: ahead of them to build notoriety, brands and hopefully a

683
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: portfolio of accomplishments that benefit the country. So for them,

684
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Speaker 2: I think that the long play is very much part

685
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Speaker 2: of the consideration. So I think dropping out too early

686
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Speaker 2: now you could argue, though, you know, if you drop

687
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Speaker 2: out on the earlier side, are you able to position

688
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 2: yourself more as somebody who did what was best for

689
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 2: the country and it wasn't about ego or individualism.

690
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I could see it both ways.

691
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 2: But I think they're all going to stay in until

692
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: there's brand damage to be done by continuing to stay

693
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Speaker 2: in and or they're out of money. So I think

694
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 2: they stay in as long as they reasonably can.

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Speaker 1: And I think we have cut twenty eight from from

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Speaker 1: Rod DeSantis saying, yeah, even if I come in third,

697
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Speaker 1: I'm not dropping out.

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Speaker 3: Listen to this.

699
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Speaker 5: You are not dropping out of this race tonight or tomorrow.

700
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Speaker 6: No matter what we're going on the list, we've been

701
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 6: built for the long haul. It's all about the accumulation

702
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Speaker 6: of delegates.

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Speaker 4: Even if you come in third place tonight, there's no

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Speaker 4: chance your campaign is dropping out.

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Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying.

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Speaker 4: There's no chance.

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Speaker 3: We're in it for the long haul. We're going to

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Speaker 3: do well.

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Speaker 6: I know the media likes to do the speculation.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited.

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Speaker 6: I'm excited. I'm excited for the votes to come in

712
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 6: because that'll be the first real data point.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so Desanta is saying he's going to stay in.

714
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Speaker 1: We'll see what happens when the votes start to come

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Speaker 1: in tonight. I'm super excited. I bet, like a lot

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Speaker 1: of you, I'm going to be flipping back and forth

717
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: between Fox News and the playoff game because down in

718
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, the Bucks are going to be going head

719
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Speaker 1: to head with the Eagles, so I will be watching

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Speaker 1: the NFL playoff games. We also have a kick off.

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Speaker 1: A lot of you listening in New York. The Bills

722
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: are going to going up against the Steelers. A lot

723
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Speaker 1: of you listening in Pennsylvania. That game was moved, so

724
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Speaker 1: it's a pack day. Not to mention that it's Martin

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Speaker 1: Luther King Holiday, and certainly we want to acknowledge all

726
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Speaker 1: of the work that Martin Luther King did to make

727
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Speaker 1: America a better place on this show, and also point

728
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Speaker 1: out that probably the most important quote of all, if

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Speaker 1: you had to sum up Martin Luther King in one quote,

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Speaker 1: and I went to a high school named after him

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Speaker 1: in the Nashville area, where, by the way, we may

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Speaker 1: end up with a foot of snowbuck and the city

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Speaker 1: of Nashville is just bonkers because we never get this

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Speaker 1: kind of snow. People can't drive in it. I just

735
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: went downstairs during our commercial break at the end of

736
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:45,439
Speaker 1: the second hour. There were six different teenage boys devouring

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00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: food that my wife when she comes back, is going

738
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Speaker 1: to be She's out right now with our youngest. There

739
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: are basically a standing puddles of water. These kids are

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Speaker 1: a total mess. So there's chaos all over the South

741
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Speaker 1: anytime there's snow, and we're getting walloped right now. But

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Speaker 1: Martin Luther King said to judge people by the content

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Speaker 1: of their character, not the color of their skin. And unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: in many parts of the Democrat Party today, all that

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Speaker 1: matters is the color of your skin, not the content

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Speaker 1: of your character. And we've ended up with this racial

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Speaker 1: spoil system, which I think works against much of what

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Speaker 1: MLK advocated for during the course of his life. But

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Speaker 1: as we look at this landscape and everybody going out

750
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Speaker 1: to vote tonight in Iowa, I think it's also worth

751
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: keeping in mind that this is not a normal primary

752
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: process because of the Lawfair that is currently underway against

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. And I think some people may stay in

754
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: this race longer than they otherwise would because they're just

755
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Speaker 1: thinking there still may be some chaos with this Lawfair.

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Speaker 3: And I believe we have audio.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure we played this because even

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Speaker 1: though it is Iowa Caucus Day, I think this Atlanta

759
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: prosecution of Trump buck has completely collapsed. Fawnie Willis went

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Speaker 1: out and finally addressed the allegations that she hired her lover,

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Speaker 1: broke up his marriage, and paid him six hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars. And she did that in a church,

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Speaker 1: and she said, of course race is involved here. This

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Speaker 1: was an MLK Day celebration Black church in Atlanta. Cut three.

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Speaker 3: You can no.

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Speaker 7: Longer sit back and just let other folks do. You

767
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Speaker 7: cannot see black women to be perfect and save the Lord.

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Speaker 3: The Lord is completing us.

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Speaker 7: We are not purpose. We need your prayers. We need

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Speaker 7: to be allowed to stumble. We need grance. With that

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Speaker 7: kind of support, we will move mountains and do Jesus

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Speaker 7: will see.

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Speaker 3: We are all called sinners.

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Speaker 7: Impera, but we don't qualify on a point of the call.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we're all flawed, and we're all sinners Clay, but

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Speaker 2: we're also not all states attorneys who are trying to

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Speaker 2: prosecute eighteen people. I think it is including a presidential candidate.

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Speaker 2: It might the number might be a little higher than

779
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Speaker 2: a presidential candidate. So there are some things that are

780
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Speaker 2: expected of you in that role, for which you know

781
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: I'm a sinner. To doesn't cut it, and but this

782
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 2: is this is not going to cut it. I think

783
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: she's trying to create a some kind of a like

784
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Speaker 2: a pr shield for herself with all of this stuff,

785
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: whether it's about racism or we're imperfect or whatever, it

786
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: is the answer to if you're a public official and

787
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Speaker 2: you're being accused of real corruption. Remember, she didn't pay

788
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Speaker 2: him six hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: Of her money.

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Speaker 2: She paid him six hundred thousand dollars of the public's monthy, Right,

791
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Speaker 2: So this is a this is an issue of public concern.

792
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Speaker 2: If you didn't do it, you say you didn't do it.

793
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 2: Anything else that you're saying is just effectively an admission of, oh, yeah,

794
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 2: I'm in a whole lot of trouble, but I'm hoping

795
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 2: the politics of this will excuse my unethical and possibly

796
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 2: criminal behavior. And this also goes to let's assume that

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00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: she's she's done the things that she's accused of right now,

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Speaker 2: and so she's the one who's going to bring this

799
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Speaker 2: first ever prosecution in the history of the republic for

800
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Speaker 2: Rico a effectively a racketeering prosecution of a leading Republican

801
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Speaker 2: presidential candidate. I mean, this is insane, right, and enough Americans,

802
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 2: this is what has happened here, and I think it's

803
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Speaker 2: reflected in all the polls that we're talking about. Enough

804
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: of the American people see this for what it is,

805
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Speaker 2: and that's why I think maybe this is just look

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00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 2: Democrats completely miss I've said this before, they completely miscalculated

807
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen on if we just show enough Trump,

808
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: people will think this guy's crazy. Did they miscalculate with him?

809
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 2: We just indict him enough, we can destroy him.

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Speaker 1: I think they miscalculated a couple of things here. One, Yes,

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Speaker 1: they miscalculated because it's hard to argue that you're the

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Speaker 1: party that wants to save democracy when you're trying to

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Speaker 1: put your chief political rival in prison for the rest

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Speaker 1: of his life and take him off the ballot. And

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Speaker 1: I think that registers with a lot of people. Second

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00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: part of this, she's trying to play the race card.

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00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: Showed up in a black church again. As we said

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Speaker 1: earlier in the program, if I accuse one of my

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Speaker 1: kids of doing something wrong and they immediately respond, I'm

820
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: not perfect. You shouldn't judge me on the standard of perfection,

821
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Speaker 1: they probably did it. But she's also trying to say, oh,

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Speaker 1: they're attacking Nathan Wade, her alleged lover because he's a

823
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Speaker 1: black man and saying he's not qualified for that reason. No,

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Speaker 1: there wasn't a single ounce of criticism of Nathan Wade.

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Speaker 1: In fact, nobody even knew his name until it came

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Speaker 1: out that she was potentially sleeping with him and had

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Speaker 1: paid him six hundred and fifty thousand dollars in Georgia

828
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Speaker 1: taxpayer money to try to go after Donald Trump. It's

829
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Speaker 1: a relatively low standard to set. Most people should be

830
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: able to step over it pretty easy. If you are

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Speaker 1: trying to put a former president in prison for the

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Speaker 1: rest of his life and you are the prosecutor, here's

833
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Speaker 1: what we would suggest. Don't hire your mistress your mister,

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Speaker 1: however you want to classify him your paramore, and don't

835
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Speaker 1: pay him six hundred and fifty thousand dollars in cash

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Speaker 1: and try to argue that the reason you're getting attacked

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Speaker 1: is because you're black. I don't even know who the

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Speaker 1: two other special prosecutors she hired was, but unless she's

839
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Speaker 1: also allegedly sleeping with them, I'm not coming after the

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00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: accusation coming after them, right this is I think this

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Speaker 1: Georgia prosecution now buck is dead on arrival. I think

842
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Speaker 1: it's just a question of when she's going to be

843
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,919
Speaker 1: forced to step down and whether she's going to face

844
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Speaker 1: criminal charges. I think this one has falling apart now.

845
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Speaker 1: Was unlikely this case was ever going to be resolved

846
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 1: before the election in twenty twenty four. But I think

847
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: you can effectively take this one off the board. I

848
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Speaker 1: don't think anything's going to happen here.

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Speaker 2: Cynical assessment of this. She always knew that it wasn't

850
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Speaker 2: going to be done in time and just did this

851
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 2: because it creates a narrative of her as a political

852
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 2: fighter against Trump, means that she'll get book deals, means

853
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 2: she'll always be welcome on MSNBC and CNN, and bringing

854
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 2: the case was what she really wanted to do and

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00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 2: that eventually, well, she'll see what happens in the election.

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Speaker 2: But even if it ends up completely falling apart and

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Speaker 2: she withdraws the case, I think Fannie Willis believes this

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Speaker 2: was a win for her. And that's why people see

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00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 2: the justice system. That's why people see the criminal prosecution

860
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Speaker 2: of Trump as such a sham, because it.

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Speaker 1: Is no doubt it may well still benefit her because

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00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: she could get elected mayor of Atlanta, she could get

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Speaker 1: potentially a statewide electoral.

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Speaker 3: Nomination just based on this.

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Speaker 1: But again, and this prosecution I think is over and

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Speaker 1: as soon as Iowa and New Hampshire have voted, I

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Speaker 1: think more and more attention is going to be foisted

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Speaker 1: upon this. But I wanted to make sure that we

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Speaker 1: played that audio that is her response to all the

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Speaker 1: allegations against her.

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Speaker 2: You know, I celebrated the ninetieth birthday of Admiral Flatley,

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Speaker 2: my grandfather in law, over the week, and amazing think

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Speaker 2: and I would just assume that they'd be amazing for

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Speaker 2: future generations to hear. But how can you share all

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Speaker 2: law was just filling up a Legacy Box over Christmas

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Speaker 2: post some of the cool photos and videos, a lot

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Speaker 3: Buck Sexton, He's Clay Travis.

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Speaker 4: Together, they're breathing sanity into an insane world.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back to clay in Buck. We're gonna

901
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Speaker 3: take some of your calls to close us out here.

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Speaker 2: Also, go to clayanbuck dot com become a v you

903
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 2: can send us all those great emails that we read and.

904
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Speaker 3: Talk about throughout the show.

905
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Speaker 2: You'll also see some fun photos of the party for

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Speaker 2: Admiral Flatley's ninetieth a lot of Navy folks.

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Speaker 3: There turns out play.

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Speaker 2: Army beat Navy this year in the football game. So

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Speaker 2: we got some emails about that. That's what I didn't

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Speaker 2: even remember. I guess it speaks to the gambler in me.

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Speaker 1: I had the under and I knew the underhit, and

912
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Speaker 1: I knew that one of them got stopped at the

913
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Speaker 1: goal line at the very end that would have put

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Speaker 1: the over over and also potentially changed the outcome of

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Speaker 1: the game.

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Speaker 2: But it was great. You wanted me to give No,

917
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Speaker 2: we're getting into it right now. You were going to

918
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Speaker 2: make the case. Now you're not saying you want this,

919
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 2: but Clay said the case for NICKI as VP. If

920
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Speaker 2: you are a Nicky Haley supporter or somebody that thinks

921
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Speaker 2: you should be VP, what would.

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Speaker 3: That case be.

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Speaker 1: I even think the argument is. It really just boils

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Speaker 1: down to this. There are going to be two things

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Speaker 1: that Democrats run on. Okay, they are going to run

926
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Speaker 1: on democracy and January sixth and the danger to our country.

927
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Speaker 3: We know that beyond a shadow of a doubt. The

928
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Speaker 3: other one is abortion.

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Speaker 1: And if you believe that Trump is going to be

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Speaker 1: the nominee, I actually think Trump is handling the abortion

931
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Speaker 1: question pretty well. If youth and the person who I

932
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Speaker 1: think has handled the abortion question the best of all

933
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Speaker 1: Republican candidates out there.

934
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Speaker 3: Is Nicky Haley.

935
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Speaker 1: And if you believe that this election is going to

936
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Speaker 1: come down to what suburban women in Atlanta and Pittsburgh

937
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Speaker 1: and Philadelphia and Phoenix, all of these different suburban areas

938
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Speaker 1: with educated college women who would traditionally be Republican voters

939
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Speaker 1: but are a bit put off by the UH, by

940
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Speaker 1: the how would you say, like the bullet of China

941
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Speaker 1: shop aspects of Donald Trump. I think Nicky Haley could

942
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Speaker 1: help with those audiences is because she is very similar

943
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Speaker 1: to many of the independent voters out there. And what

944
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Speaker 1: they're going to try to tell these women is just

945
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Speaker 1: be aware, if your fourteen or fifteen year old daughter

946
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Speaker 1: gets pregnant, Republicans, like the Handmaid's Tale, are going to

947
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Speaker 1: come knocking on your door and they're going to demand

948
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Speaker 1: that your fifteen year old daughter have the baby. Okay,

949
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Speaker 1: that's what they're going to sell to all these suburban women.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a harder thing to sell if Nicky

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Speaker 1: Haley is the vice president and frankly, if Trump is

952
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Speaker 1: the president. So that is the pitch. Now, could Christy

953
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Speaker 1: Noam do that? Could Elise Stefanic do that? Could other

954
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Speaker 1: women that Trump is probably considering also have that same

955
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Speaker 1: impact potentially, But that would be my argument for why

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Speaker 1: Nicky Haley as VP could be helpful for Trump. And

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Speaker 1: I just I don't buy into this idea that people

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Speaker 1: are genuinely going to rebel against Trump if he picked

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Speaker 1: Nicki Haley as his VP. I just don't buy into it.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's the pick I would make. I'm

962
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Speaker 1: just saying that's the argument for why she could make

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Speaker 1: sense for a Trump ticket.

964
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Speaker 3: Now it's a little bit like we used to hear.

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Speaker 2: We hear less of it now, but people saying if

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Speaker 2: my person doesn't win the primary, I'm not going to vote.

967
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Speaker 2: And I think there's an understanding given we all see,

968
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Speaker 2: everybody sees, even Democrats see what a disaster Biden is.

969
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 2: You just don't want four more years of this, right,

970
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 2: I mean, this is this is the part where you

971
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Speaker 2: know there's that meme where like knights all take out

972
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Speaker 2: their swords and we all agree at the table, you

973
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 2: could do them, you know, Trump, Nikki DeSantis and and

974
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Speaker 2: vevec thank you supporters all putting their swords down on

975
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Speaker 2: the round table and in the center, it's making sure

976
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Speaker 2: Biden isn't president.

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Speaker 3: For four more years. There is pretty universal agreement on that.

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Speaker 1: I one hundred percent, and I think this will die down.

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Speaker 1: This is my prediction in a big way by Wednesday

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00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 1: of next week, because by Wednesday of next week you

981
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: will have had the voters of Iowa and New Hampshire

982
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 1: actually being able to cast and tell you what they

983
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: think of all these candidates. And I think a lot

984
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: of the passions will die down. Bucket reminds me a

985
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: big rivalry game when everybody's fired up and they're angry

986
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: when I would do sports and they're like, I'll never

987
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: listen to you again, Clayton Travis because you picked Alabama

988
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: to beat Auburn or vice versa, or Ohio State.

989
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 3: To beat Michigan or vice versa.

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Speaker 1: You know who shows up the next week and listens

991
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: everybody because the result of the game has happened, and

992
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: everybody wants to talk about the results. Same things happening Iowa,

993
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 1: New Hampshire across the entire political landscape.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a little bit like, you know, we're here.

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00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 2: We got to absorb some of the frustration that's out

996
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 2: there from our own team. Sometimes the same thing.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 2: I was ubering home last night, you know, I was

999
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Speaker 2: coming back to South Carolina, and the driver's like, yeah, man,

1000
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Speaker 2: I'm just He's like, aren't you so upset about the

1001
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins. And I had to be like, yeah, man,

1002
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 2: I'm like really upset about I want to be like,

1003
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 2: what happened?

1004
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 3: I have no idea, but I'm very upset.

1005
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 2: You know, we absorb some of the frustration that our

1006
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Speaker 2: own team has.

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Speaker 3: Right we're all on the same tea, but we absorb

1008
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Speaker 3: some of that.

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Speaker 1: Frustration that Dolphins haven't won a playoff game since two

1010
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 1: thousand bucks. And they start they're looking like you, now,

1011
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: I know you grew up in the north, but they

1012
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: it was super cold in Kansas City and every member

1013
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: of the Miami Dolphins it was minus twenty seven or

1014
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: whatever it was windshill. I actually was laughing thinking about

1015
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: they left. It was eighty degrees in Miami and they

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Speaker 1: flew to Kansas City for the minus twenty seven and

1017
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: they're head coach in particular, they looked like they would

1018
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: rather be anywhere in the world than sitting there on

1019
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 1: the frozen tunder of Kansas City.

1020
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Speaker 2: It's very real. Your body, even like brown fat. I

1021
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 2: think changes based on how much cold you know you're

1022
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 2: and all the cold plunge people, which is this huge

1023
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 2: trend to we know on the internet. I'm neither for

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Speaker 2: nor against.

1025
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:50,479
Speaker 3: I know nothing.

1026
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 2: I just know I people are cold plunging all the time.

1027
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 2: I don't want to get in the middle of that.

1028
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 2: But it's a real thing that if you get used

1029
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 2: to really really nice, easy temperature and then you're in

1030
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 2: the freezing cold, you can't handle it. Rochelle in Massachusetts,

1031
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Speaker 2: speaking of the cold, wants to make a She wants

1032
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 2: to make a pitch. Michelle will give you like thirty

1033
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 2: seconds here to make a pitch for Ron DeSantis, last minute,

1034
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 2: because that's why you called in.

1035
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Speaker 3: Go ahead, Hi.

1036
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Speaker 8: I want to make a pitch for the Santas because

1037
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 8: I think he's the only truly pro life candidate that's running.

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Speaker 8: That's certainly important people in Iowa, in a lot of places,

1039
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Speaker 8: and I don't believe that Trump is really pro life anymore,

1040
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Speaker 8: based on statements, very statements he's made over the last

1041
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 8: few months, certainly the last week. I mean, if you

1042
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Speaker 8: believe that, for example, if you believe that a sixth

1043
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 8: week ban on abortion is too harsh because women don't

1044
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 8: know they're pregnant, yet, you're probably not really pro life

1045
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 8: if you believe that a rape exception on pro life legislation,

1046
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 8: if you believe that those are good rape exceptions all

1047
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 8: are good in themselves just because so like a woman who's.

1048
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Speaker 1: Rape Yeah, thank you, shall we get it. Look, the

1049
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: data reflects whether people want to.

1050
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 2: Believe I didn't mean to cutter offthor but we're just

1051
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 2: what we're like in the last minute here of time.

1052
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, the data reflects that if you don't,

1053
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: Trump is set. He's pro exception, right, rape incests, life

1054
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: of mother, all of those things, right, if you're certainly

1055
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 1: entitled to have any opinion under the sun. Those are

1056
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: losing if you if you don't believe Ronald Reagan believed

1057
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 1: in those exemptions. If you don't believe in that, then

1058
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: you lose every election. And I understand people can say, well,

1059
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: it's a principal issue. What Trump is saying is if

1060
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: you are going to not believe in those exemptions, then

1061
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:47,240
Speaker 1: you end up losing nationwide races, and that is reflected

1062
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Speaker 1: in the data.

1063
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Speaker 2: We will take I'm sure a lot of people will

1064
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 2: want to make the case for their candidate quickly on

1065
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 2: the air tomorrow, especially after we have some data in

1066
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Speaker 2: from the Iowa caucuses.

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Speaker 3: We will take a lot of calls from not wait

1068
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Speaker 3: to get action.

1069
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 2: I know, real results, results everybody.

1070
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Speaker 3: It's gonna be fantastic. We'll all be talking tomorrow. See you,

1071
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 3: then go vote.