1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: And now move the Sticks ten takeaways the wild Card 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Round with Daniel Jeremiah, Bucky Brooks and Rett Lewis. What's 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: up everybody? Welcome to Move the six presented by Castro Ledge, DJ, Bucky, 4 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: Rett back with you and I believe this is the 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: greatest football weekend of the year, guys. And when you 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: look at having six games in two days and then 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: we get to come back with the National Championship game tonight, 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: it's a little piece of football heaven here. Oh absolutely, 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: it's a huge slice of football heaven. The playoff games 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: were outstanding. I expect the National Championship game to be 11 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: fabulous as well, And so I don't know if he 12 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: gets any better than this, Just sign me up for 13 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: three games on Saturday and Sunday of the playoffs every 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: time it starts out. Yeah, you know, it was fantastic. 15 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: In fact, like the only game that was really like 16 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: slime worthy was the Saints and Barras game, But that 17 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: turned out to be a great thing, right. Nickelodeons, I 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: Hate Me and Bucky were calling it for for Amazon, 19 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: so we didn't get a chance to to see the 20 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: Nickelodeon feed, but it was popping up on the Twitter timeline, 21 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm all for slime Cannon's I'm all I'm all in 22 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: on that going forward. I love that. Um all right, 23 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: let's let's get our takeaways. We do have ten takeaways today. 24 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: We're gonna have six of them based off the six 25 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: playoff games. We're gonna have four just kind of big 26 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,839 Speaker 1: league topics here as we head towards a wild off season. 27 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: But I'll start us off with the first game takeaway here, 28 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: and that's the Ravens just flexing on the Titans. Shot 29 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 1: got staff to Jackson. Jackson deep in the pocket. Now 30 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: he steps up, tries to run. He's got some space. 31 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: First down, thirties, being chase, they get him. Jackson dies 32 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: and he's in touchdown. La boy Jackson. He had been 33 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: dot all game. But they're a forty eight yard run. Yeah, 34 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: that was an unbelievable run by Lamar Jackson, who took 35 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: this game over. Really what he did with his legs, 36 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: rushing for over hunter yards on I think only sixteen carries. 37 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: The way he told her the rock was huge, but 38 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: I thought it was. It was really a game between 39 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: two organizations that fancy themselves as bullies. And I was 40 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: a part when I was with the Ravens of one 41 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: of these playoff games where the Titans came into Baltimore 42 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: UH and beat the Ravens. We know about the Eddie 43 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: George game with Ray Lewis on the way to the 44 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: Ravens Super Bowl where ray took the ball away from Eddie. 45 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: Eddie returned the favor UH coming back in and went 46 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: in there. We saw the battle last year and then 47 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: this year again. It's just there's so much intensity between 48 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: these two teams, and I thought in this game, the 49 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens were clearly the more physical team along the 50 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, the way they bottled up Derrick Henry 51 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: and the way they were able to crank up that 52 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: run game with the guy you know, Buck, we've been 53 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: talking about getting featured more in this offense and JK. Dobbins, yeah, 54 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: you know DJ. I think this was the big game 55 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: for the Baltimore Ravens because he gave them a chance 56 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: to get the monkey off their back and now that 57 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: they wanted and won a playoff game under Lamar Jackson, 58 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: I think we could see this team play like many 59 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: of us thought that they would play at the beginning 60 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: of the year. They committed to the run. They stayed 61 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: with the run, They didn't lose their discipline when it 62 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: came to the game plan, and because of that, they 63 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: were rewarded. And Lamar Jackson is fantastic. And you know, 64 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: he must be a lot faster on field level than 65 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: we think because the way that he slithered and moved 66 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 1: around the Tennessee Titans on that touchdown run, he must 67 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: be at another gear that we can't even recognize just 68 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: by watching the TV copy. You know, we talked about 69 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: it all a week, right, This Ravens team these last 70 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: six weeks just felt different, felt different than the team 71 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: we saw go into the postseason as the one seed 72 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: a year ago. And I actually felt like this team 73 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: was maybe better equipped to come out and beat the 74 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: Titans than the team we saw lose to him a 75 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: year ago. I think, you know, the way they limited 76 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry in this game like no other team has, 77 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: including themselves earlier in the year in their Week eleven matchup, 78 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: you know, I think it speaks a lot to the 79 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: health of the defensive front. UH. Since Week thirteen and 80 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: they started going on this run, They've had Brandon Williams, 81 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: they've had Derek Wolfe. They've had Klais Campbell all healthy 82 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: for all of those games, and man, just having that 83 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: beef and that strength up front to stop those guys, 84 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: to get the penetration like you're seeing from Matthew jude 85 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: On to get after Derrick Henry before he's able to 86 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: get started was such a key in this game. Um. 87 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: And then you know, on the Lamar Jackson side of things, 88 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: obviously had the bad interception to start things off. They 89 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: find themselves in a ten oh hole, and you know, 90 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: I think maybe the most important thing that you leave 91 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: with here if you're the Ravens, is that you come 92 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: back from a deficit, from a ten point deficit, you know, 93 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: the lights of what you haven't done since Lamar took 94 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: over his starting quarterback. So now they're proving here at 95 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: the most critical juncture in their season that they can 96 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: if they are backs against the wall down by two scores, 97 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: that they know how to do it. They turn it 98 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: over to Lamar, let him go, let him run them 99 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: back into the ball game, and this is a dangerous 100 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: team moving forward. Yeah, it's interesting when you you look 101 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: at this game, you see Hollywood Brown have the production 102 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: he had as an undersized receiver. We'll get to the 103 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: Saints game a little bit later, but Deonte Harris, a 104 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: little undersized receiver, had some production. An Tonio Brown not 105 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: the biggest guy in the world. You're seeing the speed 106 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: and the quickness really play here, uh in the postseason? 107 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: All right, that's takeaway one what we got from number 108 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: two here, Buck, The Browns are tough, shunking down in 109 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: ten from the forty yard range, screen pass, chump, thirty tackle, 110 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: thirty down the front race to the ten five touchdown, 111 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: touch and run. You know, DJ, We've talked to a 112 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: lot of coaches that have come on the podcast. They 113 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: talked about toughness, and a lot of times we think 114 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: of toughness as the physical component, but really the Browns, 115 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: to me, are tough because of their mental capacity to 116 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: deal with the things that they had to deal with 117 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: over the last week. Head coach not being available, unable 118 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: to practice really the last two weeks due to COVID 119 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: issues and protocols and those things taken on a team 120 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: that really had beat them up the last decade and 121 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,799 Speaker 1: a half whenever they had to face them in division 122 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: game games. And here they go on the road and 123 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: they not only beat the Pittsburgh Steelers, but they physically 124 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: whipped them on both sides of the ball. And so 125 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: when I look at this Browns team and how they 126 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: are built to play, this is a tough out for 127 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: many teams because of the running game, the company we play, 128 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: action passing game, and the opportunistic defense that's beginning to 129 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: come up with turnovers. This is a tough team, a 130 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,559 Speaker 1: team that many teams don't want to face in the postseason. Yeah, so, 131 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: you know, looking at this, the way they jumped out 132 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: on the Steelers in this game, you know, I'm sure 133 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,119 Speaker 1: left for some anxious moments for Browns fans second quarter 134 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: through midway through the fourth quarter, like, oh my god, 135 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: they is this gonna be another one of those you 136 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: know two thousand and two Steelers come back and win 137 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: the thing late. But look, they kept they kept there. 138 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: You know, the pedal down and the touchdown from Nick Chubb. 139 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: You know, late um was big after the fourth and 140 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: one decision for Mike Tomlin to punt. I had two 141 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: things in this game here for the Steelers. What's been 142 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,679 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger gonna do? Now on? You know, clearly as sullen 143 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: and as sad as we've ever seen him on the 144 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: bench late game, right, And then the other thing is 145 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: on a more lighter note, like when when did you 146 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: do Smith Schuster become like this NFL villain? Like, didn't 147 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: he come into the year? I mean, come into the NFL. 148 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: It's like this fun loving, riding my bicycle, no driver's license, 149 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: Oh man, I got my bike stolen kind of guy. 150 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: And all of a sudden he's like this, you know, 151 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: this taunting you know, uh, golden board material, dancing on 152 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: your logo kind of day. I'm like, wait, this is 153 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: a juju, Like, let's you know, I just that that 154 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: whole thing. But whether that the whole Browns is the Browns, 155 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: whether that really you know, motivated the Cleveland I mean, 156 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: it's certainly by the reaction we've seen from Brown's. Brown's 157 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: players did but you know, didn't play a role in 158 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: the game. I don't know. I just I'm gonna go 159 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: back to the fund YouTube. Yeah, the fun. Look, if 160 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: they had a one, you would have seen the fun. 161 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: Did he actually played well, he did. He's game. I mean, 162 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: I mean Ben had five yards, I mean, and Bucky 163 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: had a great tweet about those being empty calories late 164 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: in the game. But they did. I mean moving the 165 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: football wasn't a problem for the Pittsburgh Steelers the whole game. 166 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: They couldn't protect the football, Um, was all the turnovers 167 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: there by Ben that that kind of did them in. 168 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: And then defensively they did they got beat up at 169 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. And you know, I was trying 170 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: to think of a takeaway for this game coming off 171 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: of what you guys are talking about, and I'm actually 172 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: springing it forward to some of these coaching hires, and 173 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: you're looking at schemes, um, not just you know, the 174 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: leadership aspect of it is obviously important, but when you 175 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: look at at that offense with the Shanahan scheme that 176 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: Stefanski runs to, fancy wasn't even there for this game. Um, 177 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: But this run game is on autopilot when you have 178 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: okay backs and now you get a chance to see 179 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: two legit, big time backs that the Browns have Buck, 180 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: It's kind of like what you've talked about, you know, 181 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: when we saw Dalvin Cook get a chance to go 182 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: to a team and play in this system. Man, now 183 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: you've got a big time player in a big time 184 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: friendly scheme. That type of a marriage can take this 185 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: thing a long way, and this is a team that 186 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: can rely on this run game for a long time. 187 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: It absolutely can rely on the run game for a 188 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: long time in DJ. At a time where people are saying, 189 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: don't invest in running backs, they actually have invested in 190 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: two high quality number one running backs and Nick Chubb 191 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: and Kareem Hunt. Because they signed Kareem Hunt to a 192 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: three year extension. And now I'm sure they'll take care 193 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: of Nick Chubb. But this run game copled with the 194 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: fact of and I'll say this, Bill Callahan doesn't get 195 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: enough credit for what he's done with this front line 196 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: because running this zone system where they're double teaming and 197 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: climbing and getting to the next level, it is perfection. 198 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: And we have seen them beat up good defenses with 199 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: this game. And oh, by the way, the complimentary play 200 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: pass package that goes with it, it is helped solidify 201 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 1: and stabilize Baker Mayfield as a playmaker. And right now 202 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: the Browns have been rolling. It'll be an interesting challenge 203 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: for them going on the road taking on Kansas City, 204 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: but I wouldn't count them out because this scheme is terrific. 205 00:09:55,240 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: Passing yards in this game between Baker Mayfield back to 206 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: Jones Stadium. Let's do it all right, let me get 207 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: us to take number three? Shall I? Here we go 208 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: and that takeaway is the Bill's partying like. It's nine 209 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: five second and goal of the Colts. Three Alan designed run, 210 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: look into his right, tries to cut back left. That 211 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: we Crows a prayer dear right side tumbling grabbed touchdown, 212 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: the improvisation of Alan as he connects with Dawson Knox, 213 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: and the first touchdown of the NFL playoffs belongs to 214 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: the Bills. It's six to three one ago in the 215 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: first quarter. Uh, you know what I need right now? 216 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: I need some Thurman Thomas in my life. I need 217 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: that middle bar face mask. I need some Jim Kelly, 218 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: some Cornelius Bennett. Give me some Bryce pop out there. 219 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: Let's go Bills beating the Colts, or rather beating the 220 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: Dolphins thirty seven to twenty two for what was at 221 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: that time their last playoff victory in more than two decades. 222 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: And now Bills and so like, give me the Josh 223 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: Allen to Stefon Diggs. Give me some Devin Singletary, you know, 224 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: give me some some tradavious white out here. I mean, 225 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: these are the new glory days of the Buffalo Bills. 226 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: Watching Josh Allen guide this team to their first playoff 227 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: win in a quarter century. You know, we're really exercising 228 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: some of the playoff demons. That's maybe the overall takeaway 229 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: from this entire week. Bucks, Browns and Bills all off 230 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: the Schney three, the longest active playoff victory droughts in 231 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: the NFL. All get the demons exercise this week and 232 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: look this Bill's game, And I just think in the 233 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: trajectory of this team is all about the improvement of 234 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Um. We kind of talked about it throughout 235 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: the year here. I mean improved completion percentage UM. I 236 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: mean it's astronomical, the improvement that he's made, the accuracy 237 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: that he's shown, the way he leads this team. UH, 238 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: And I just I'm just so impressed with with that 239 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,599 Speaker 1: aspect of his game. UM. And then this defense I 240 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: has played really well at times. Matt Mlano, Tremaine Edmonds 241 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: are fun to watch on the second level, Travis White. 242 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: And then that's safety duo with Mica Hyde and Jordan Poyer. 243 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: I feel like maybe one of the more underrated duos 244 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: in the league. And they finally figure out how to 245 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: defend the hell Mary. So look, it's all coming together, bla. 246 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: It is coming together for the Buffalo Bills. And I 247 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: think you have to be excited if you're Buffalo Bills fan, 248 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: because your quarterback has continued to evolve as a high 249 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: end quarterback, a potentially a top five quarterback. When you 250 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 1: look at the way that he played against the Indianapolis Coast, 251 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: I thought this defense would be as tough as tests 252 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: based on the way that they played that soft zone 253 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: the Tampa two where they take away the deep shots 254 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: and they forced quarterbacks to dink and dunk. Josh Allen 255 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: was terrific. He was patient, he was disciplined, He got 256 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: the ball to his playmakers, He let his playmakers go 257 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: to work, and when he had a chance to take 258 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: a shot, he took it and he cashed in his 259 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: lottery ticket. Josh Allen is trending in the right direction. 260 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills fans have to be excited about the way 261 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: their franchise quarterback has evolved. Josh Allen to me, his 262 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: patients in this game, no one that he's got such 263 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: a huge arm and the big playability down the field. 264 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: I felt like the Coats and their scheme kind of 265 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: dictated this a little bit. Hey keep the ball in 266 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: front of you. They're gonna eventually make a mistake and 267 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: turn the ball over. And Josh Allen was patient. He 268 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: took what was there, was accurate with the football. When 269 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: he had opportunities, he took him. He got the tough 270 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: yards with his legs. I thought it was a very 271 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: mature performance from Josh Allen in this game. And then 272 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: we'll get a chance to to get the Philip Rivers 273 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: when we get to some of these other takeaways later 274 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: on in the show, So we'll hit that there. But 275 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: I do want to say, man, I thought the running 276 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: backs let him down in a big way in the 277 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: passing game. Jonathan Taylor had a couple of big drops. 278 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: Hem Hines had a big drop in this game. I 279 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: actually thought Philip Rivers played pretty well. We'll have a 280 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: chance to talk about his future a little bit later 281 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: on in the show. I'll keep it going here takeaway 282 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: number four. Uh think talking about new beginnings here, it 283 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: might be time for the Bearers to start fresh and 284 00:13:53,520 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: snap it. Mccomer gonna take it. What's it perfect? It's 285 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: just he's wide open by himself. He just made the 286 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: hard catch and now the easy one it's right there 287 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: and Javon Wims, I mean, that was crucial that they 288 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: catch that ball. You go into half, it's a tie 289 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: ball game, I believe if that if that ball is caught, 290 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: and you're kind of right in the game. Unfortunately, he 291 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: dropped that ball, and now the Bears could not do 292 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: anything offensively for the rest of the game. I mean, 293 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: they didn't have a third down conversion I believe until 294 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: the very last drive. It was an anemic performance and 295 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: it leads you to what's going forward for them in 296 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: the off season. I'll let you guys talk about the 297 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: Saints and what they did on this is they're looking 298 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: at a big game coming up against Tom brady Um 299 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: the third matchup between those two teams. But when I'm 300 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: looking at this from the Bears standpoint, I've kind of 301 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: made this this statement of Wow, you could resign Droubisky 302 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: a little bit below the franchise number on a one 303 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: year deal with some incentives to climb above that. That 304 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: would allow you to franchise Allen Robinson and and you're 305 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: trying to hold on and piece this thing together. But 306 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: Buck the more you know, we watched that game together. 307 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: And the more you look at this Bears team, they're 308 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: kind of stuck in that place you don't want to be, 309 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: which is that six seven, eight win type team. In 310 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: order to get out of that that that that land, 311 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: you've got to either go down to go up, or 312 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: you've got to be really aggressive. And I just don't 313 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: think they're they're good enough to to go out and 314 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: get one or two more pieces and that's going to 315 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: elevate them. To me, it might be time to start 316 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: over here and just start fresh. You're gonna have to 317 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: take a couple of steps back here because they need 318 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: to rebuild this football team. Yeah. When I look at 319 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: this team, I don't know what you really hang your 320 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: hat on. The quarterback is okay? If that, the coaching 321 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: staff doesn't appear to have a great imagination nor the 322 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: ability to elevate the players on both sides of the ball. 323 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: And then when I look at the roster, the rosters 324 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: just yeah, I don't know who the star players are. Yeah, 325 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: Khalil Mack, Allen Robinson who was a free agent because 326 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: you didn't resign them. I don't know why the Bears 327 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: would want to run this back if I'm a Bears fan, 328 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: and so I don't know how they can fix it 329 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: without a complete rebuild, because one or two players isn't 330 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: going to change the plight of the Bears, particularly in 331 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: that division where the Packers look superior to everyone else. 332 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: I think they have to blow it up. I think 333 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: they have to move on. And I think this is 334 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: a complete ushering out of everybody because I think you 335 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: just need a different perspective of how to build a team. Well, 336 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: I think they certainly start fresh at the quarterback spot. 337 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: We made that comment before on this podcast. It's just 338 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: flush them all. It's it's time to just rebuild that 339 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: entire room the way that the Vikings did the year 340 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: after a case Keenum left and brought in Kirk Cousins. 341 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: There's a whole new group there um for the Saints, though. 342 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: You know, this was just the fourth game all season 343 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: where Drew Brees, Michael Thomas, and Alvin Camaro were all 344 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: on the field together, and they all got onto the 345 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: stat sheet in the end zone together here in this game. 346 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: But I don't think that's the thing. And then they're 347 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: going to continue to get better. I mean, it's this 348 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: is like I said, It's been a while since they 349 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: were all there. But this team super Bowl run is 350 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: gonna come because their defense is ready for a super 351 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: Bowl run. I think we saw that in this game. 352 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: While the Bears didn't provide the stiffest of challenges in 353 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: that department, They're gonna get one this week against the 354 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Bucks. But I think defensively, the Saints are 355 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: going to be well positioned for a deep postseason run 356 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: here because of the way they get after the quarterback, 357 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,479 Speaker 1: the way that they've been able to stop the run, 358 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: although they were a little bit leaky late in the season, 359 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: but it's a team that rarely allows a one yard rusher. Um. 360 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: I think they are well positioned on the defensive side 361 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: of the wall to go deep into the playoffs here. Yeah, 362 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: it's gonna be in from to see that big match 363 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: up here. Third time they got after Tom Brady up 364 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: front the last time that they played him. I thought 365 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: one thing to keep an eye on with that game 366 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: going forward we'll talk about a little bit on the 367 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: aftermath today, is as Rob Gronkowski could be key in 368 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: that game for the Bucks, not going out, but actually 369 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: keeping hand as kind of a six offensive lineman in 370 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: there to help protect Tom Brady. Alright, Buck, that that 371 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: gets us right to to Tampa, which you saw there. 372 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: The Bucks have too much offensive firepower. Third and three 373 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: of the thirty six snap to Brady under center, fixed 374 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: the hand off, left tackle, block, winds up, one catch 375 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: near site back goodly catch five hit it in tone 376 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: down the sideline touchdown Tony old. Oh we got the 377 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: ball at coverage on the near sideline. Tild hide that 378 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: peddling catch in her six for the Bucks. You know, DJ, 379 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: when I look at this Bucks team, I don't know 380 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: where I was started if I'm trying to defense them, 381 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: because the weapons that they have, they really stretch you 382 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: and test you at every level. You look at their 383 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: wide receivers, Chris Godwin, Mike Evans, a b showing up, 384 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: Robert Rokowski who didn't have a catch, Cameron Braid. They 385 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: can get you anywhere. And now the emergence of Leonard 386 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: four Nette as a bell cow running back, and if 387 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: they get Rojo back, Ronald Jones back, how do you 388 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: stop them, particularly when you have a pass first point 389 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: guard and Tom Brady who is willing to get the 390 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: ball to the open man. This Bucks off is when 391 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: they relinquished control and they've allowed Tea beach Will to 392 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: run it. Man, they may be unstoppable going for me. Yeah, look, 393 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,239 Speaker 1: I think there's there's a few things here, you know, 394 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: for the Bucks, UM. I think particularly a lot was 395 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: made of the additions of Antonio Brown and Leonard four 396 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: net too, you know, already pretty talented position groups and 397 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: both of those spots and wide out and running back, 398 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: and I think what we're seeing is that depth that 399 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,959 Speaker 1: like high end depth, has really paid off of them. 400 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,719 Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette had a nice game when Ronald Jones couldn't 401 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: go was elite scratch in this game, uh dressed out 402 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: and didn't didn't see a snap. And then Antonio Brown 403 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: was huge in Week seventeen, caught a touchdown in this game. Um, 404 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: and with Mike Evans not a p you know, even 405 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: though we ended up going over all hundred yards in 406 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: this game, especially with his second half performance, I think 407 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: it's important to have those types of guys that can 408 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: step into a high level role for your offense and 409 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: keep up that same level of play. So I'm excited 410 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: about this game here. I think it's hard to be 411 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: the team three times in a season. UM. I think 412 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: this is by far the best generation of the Bucks 413 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: that the Saints will see this season. And I just 414 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: like I wonder where the Bucks defense as a liability, 415 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: seeing how Taylor Heineke threw for over three hundred yards 416 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 1: against them kind of factors into this matchup going forward. 417 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: What was the last game? Right you remember this? Uh? 418 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 1: Was it the Falcons for the Bucks the last week 419 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: when Brady through for like four hundred yards and uh 420 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, That to me was almost like the perfect 421 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: thing that could have happened for that team is to 422 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: just get this huge confidence boost, throw it all over 423 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: the place. And now when you when you watch the 424 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: tape of this, Tom Brady looks as good as I've 425 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: seen him in the last several years. I mean, he 426 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: looks fresh, He's crisp in his drops, the ball is 427 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: jumping out of his hand like he's always been able 428 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: to elevate his game once you got to the postseason. 429 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: You've noticed that in New England over the years, but 430 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's ever been more noticeable, and 431 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: I think probably some of the signs were there. At 432 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: the end of the year, you can start to see 433 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: Tom Brady start to build a little bit and he 434 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: just has a way to kind of find that other level, 435 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: and they wore them out on crossing routes that they 436 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: were able to find that open part, open third of 437 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: the field, be able to check up with hitches, and 438 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: then they just ran over routes after over route after 439 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 1: over route, And to me, it was it was just 440 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: a clinic by Brady and company. Yeah, And to your point, DJ, 441 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: I mean, this literally was the most productive final four 442 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: game stretch of a regular season of any in Tom 443 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: Brady's illustrious career. I mean, like it's it's kind of 444 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: strange to think about that in your forty three year 445 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: old season. Um, that at the tail end of that year, 446 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: you are absolutely playing the best call maybe of your career. 447 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: That's like that, it's like a country song. It's like, 448 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: I think it's like a Toby Keith song. Right, I'm 449 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: not as good as ever was. That's it, you know, 450 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: he didn't have to put together twenty games, just just 451 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: do it here for a little bit. All right, what's 452 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: what's the next game? We've got the final game, final game, 453 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: Our final game. Takeaway here is taking us to the 454 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: Rams and the Seahawks. For the Rams served up the 455 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: Seahawks cold m Wilson gets the snap, he looks, he 456 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: throws lap side, that's intercepted. It's going back down the 457 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: sideline for a Rams touchdown. Darius Williams jumped around and 458 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: strolls in a defensive touchdown and the Rams extend the lead. 459 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: What a play by Darius Williams. They tried the quick 460 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: screen out to the left and he's he saw it 461 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: all the way. First off, I'm halfway surprised that that 462 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: doesn't happen more often in the league. But we'll get that. 463 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: That's a that's a conversation for another day. Um. So, 464 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 1: the gourmet meal that Russ had cooked up weeks one 465 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: through five was clearly stuck in the fridge, and by 466 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: the first weekend of the playoffs, they were just picking 467 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: at it out of the fridge, and the Seahawks decided 468 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: just to take it all out, and just or the 469 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: Rams decided to take it all out just to serve 470 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: it up to ice cold. It tasted terrible. Twelve completions 471 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: for Russell Wilson. Um, I went too far with that analogy, 472 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: but you get it. It was. It was bad, it 473 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: was gross. Nobody likes the ice cold leftovers that have 474 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: been in there a couple of days to again, you 475 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 1: know what I mean, You're still You're still good. Okay, 476 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: all right, I just want to make sure I've painted 477 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: that completely clear for you. So the golf had thumb 478 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: surgery twelve days ago, coming into that game, was pressed 479 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: into duty because Wolford went out. I mean that that 480 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: wasn't you know that, even while it was a storyline 481 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: just because it's your starting court, the storyline was the 482 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:45,479 Speaker 1: Rams defense absolutely dominating the Seahawks, once proud passing attack, 483 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: once proud protection of Russell Wilson. Um. They didn't have 484 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 1: a run game to turn two, which has kind of 485 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: been a theme all season long. And I have never 486 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: seen Russ miss like that. I've never seen him, um, 487 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: you know, pressured into more in completions in two, more 488 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: bad throws and bad decisions and just overall out of 489 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: sync offensive play from the Seahawks in a game like this. 490 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: I get why Pete Carroll said I don't have space 491 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: in my brain to contemplate and to understand this kind 492 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: of result. I'm right, I mean, I'm right with him 493 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: on that, because those first five weeks should the first 494 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: time weeks told us an outcome like this at the 495 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: end of the year should never happen. Yeah, but you know, Red, like, 496 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: here's the thing that let Russ Cook movement has always 497 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: been fools gold for the Seattle Seahawks. Whenever they have 498 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: been able to win consistently, it has always been because 499 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: the running game and the defense plays at a high level, 500 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: and then Russ makes it right in the fourth quarter. 501 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: And sometimes we get seduced into thinking that more rust 502 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: is better, but we've seen time and time again when 503 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: he throws more than thirty times, it falters for whatever reason. 504 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: With the Seahawks and DJ and Read, we've all had 505 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: this conversation. Sometimes your DNA is your DNA as a team, 506 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: and there's a way that you win games, and whenever 507 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: the Seahawks try and get outside of that, they always 508 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: come back to the pack. And so this would be 509 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: something where Pete Carroll, Brian Schottenheimer, they have to get 510 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: together and figure out the best way to proceed. But 511 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: I think this year we saw that letting letting Russ 512 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: Cook isn't the best method for the Seahawks to win, 513 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: to win at the highest level. Yeah, and I'm looking 514 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: at that team and man along the line of scrimmage 515 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: both sides, right, offensive line, defensive line. I don't think 516 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: they're they're close to what they were in those Super 517 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: Bowl years where they won one and went went back 518 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: to one. So you're not really where you were. And 519 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: if you look at it, I mean, no first round 520 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: pick this year, no first round pick next year. Where 521 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: does that help coming from? Because offensive lineman, first of 522 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: offensive lineman rarely get to the market. If they do 523 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: get to the market, you are in a massive bidding 524 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: war with all these other teams that have all the 525 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: south recap space, so that's gonna be difficult to get 526 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: that done. And same on the defensive side of the ball. 527 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: So I don't know. They're in a pickle, man. And 528 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: you've kind of set this thing up now where you're 529 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: gonna put all this on the quarterback shoulders. And as 530 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: great as Russell Wilson is, Bucky you laid it out perfectly. Um, 531 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: there's still a formula that works for them, and I 532 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: don't think that's it. So this is an organization, I know, man, 533 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: It's it's weird saying that you just won the division. 534 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: You look at all the success that they've had. They're 535 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: in a little bit of a bind here rhet when 536 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: you when you think about them going forward here the 537 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: next few years. Yeah, you've gotta count on some development. 538 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: You gotta count on your coaching stat to develop what 539 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: you got in there right now and and hope that 540 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 1: you know, the the LJ. Collier's, the Jordan Brooks is 541 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: on the defensive side continue to emerge, the Damian Lewis 542 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: is on the you know, on the offensive side up front, 543 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, continue to get better and you can develop 544 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: those guys while you're waiting for that capital to kind 545 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: of replenish itself. So um, it almost feels like there's 546 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot on this coaching staff here moving forward. 547 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: And then that that leads to other question is how 548 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: much longer does Peate Carroll want to do this, especially 549 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: if you feel like that championship carrot might be drifting 550 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: a little bit further away. So, hey, interesting interesting times 551 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: ahead for the Seattle Seahawks as we marched towards the 552 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: off season. The Takeaway Podcast continuing now with our final 553 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: four takeaways and some news items essentially some kind of 554 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: big picture items that we're looking at here, and we're 555 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 1: starting with some big decisions up here looming for some 556 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: veteran quarterbacks. Saw the uh oh four quarterback class take 557 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: a hit here with Philip Rivers making his exit and 558 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: Roethlisburger making his exit as well. And now you've got 559 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: Brady and Breeze lined up in the divisional round of 560 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: the playoffs. So uh DJs, you look at the two 561 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: guys now who are out starting with Philip Rivers. What 562 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: do you what do you make of the decisions that 563 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: are on tap here? Well, I mean, I think it's 564 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: gonna be fascinating, right You You laid it out there 565 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: with some of these veteran quarterbacks and you've got two 566 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: of them still going here and Breeze and Brady. But 567 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: you when you look at that old four group with 568 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: with Ben and with Rivers, big decisions for them to make. 569 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 1: And I can't help but think of this, you know, 570 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: somewhat changing of the guard, right You saw it in 571 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: that game with Indianapolis playing against Buffalo. And I was 572 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: thinking about that about the pre draft process. Remember that 573 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: draft class with Sam Donald and Josh Allen, Kyle Own 574 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: all those guys were working out together in San Clementi 575 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: in California, and Philip Rivers actually came up and spent 576 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: some time with them to cry and help them as 577 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: they were trying to get on their journey. And actually 578 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: we're able to get some some video of a conversation 579 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 1: that Rivers had with them as he was trying to 580 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: show them kind of show them the way. And I thought, man, 581 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: this is a great time we got a hold of 582 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: this to show this conversation because it did feel a 583 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: little bit like the changing of the guard. So check 584 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: this out, Philip, he gus all about ball will get better. 585 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: So there's growth, there's great they all said, all the 586 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: great room. So really this spirit, I can't really right? 587 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: Are you're comfortable? You can have room? But really Jordan's 588 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: job and who had who was helping me? Right? Just 589 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: to make you uncomfortable? Spirit uncomfortable? You got great girl? Yeah, 590 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: I mean thank you. I mean you'd probably get better. 591 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: I mean you get better, have a good spirit. I'm 592 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: ready to go to the ball. Let's learn. This is nice. 593 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm comfortable. Everything's great, alright, anything, bro, but you got 594 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: great goes and get uncomforble right, So that's why George's 595 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: you know, I think you are gonna be up. This 596 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: is hard to be a little bit uncomfortably some parting office. 597 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna run this this. Yeah, but that's where 598 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: you have great enough those lads. Was hard and you're 599 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: not uncomfortable. Yeah. I don't know if Philip Rivers thought 600 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,719 Speaker 1: during that time that there'd be a time when one 601 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: of the guys sitting there on the couch and Josh 602 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,959 Speaker 1: Allen be one that ushered him out of the postseason, 603 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: which he saw this last weekend. But yeah, well yeah, 604 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: and we'll see it. The interesting thing to me, I 605 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: thought Rivers actually played really well in that game through 606 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: for over three yards, two touchdowns, no picks. Mentioned a 607 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: little bit earlier about the running backs letting him down. 608 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: Does he decide to come back, maybe for one more 609 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: year with a team that can protect him up front 610 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: with that offensive line. I tend to believe that maybe 611 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: that is where it goes, one more year for him. 612 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: But Buck, when you look at Ben um Man, I 613 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. I know there's been talking about him 614 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: coming back. I believe the numbers like a forty one 615 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: million dollar hit if he comes back. I think it's 616 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: twenty two million if he doesn't. And this is a 617 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers team. That's uh in a little bit of 618 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: a tough spot here when you look at their salary 619 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: caps set up. Yeah, Look, I think it's a tough 620 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: situation for the Pittsburgh Steels when you look at Ben Roethlisberger. 621 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: If you bring him back, I think you have to 622 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: bring him back and completely revamp your offense. Right now, 623 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger has too much on his plate. Some of 624 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: that is by choice because he wants to throw the 625 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: ball around the yard and do those things. But if 626 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers aren't able to protect him, if they 627 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: are unable to run the football, and if they aren't 628 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: able to consistently cast the ball down the field, I 629 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: don't think Ben Roethlisberger can play at a high level. 630 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: And so Mike Tomling, Kevin Colbert, all of the people 631 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: in the front office, they have to figure out how 632 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: can we best construct this offense with an aging quarterback 633 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: who's im mobile as our QB one. Well, look here, 634 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: my takeaway is that we know what Rivers is gonna 635 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: do next. If it's not football, right, he's gonna be 636 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: coaching down in in Alabama. And the good news is 637 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: that he's made himself uncomfortable enough on the white board 638 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: to experience great growth as a coach. Um, he really 639 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: put himself in an uncomfortable spot there with that white 640 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: boards giving him all you can handle. So I'm glad 641 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: to see that now he's in. He's in good shape here. 642 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: Either way, Look, I kind of feel like, um, and 643 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,239 Speaker 1: I'll move to the two guys that are still in. 644 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: It feels like to me, seeing how well Brady has 645 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: played that unless he goes out with a Super Bowl 646 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: and says, look sevens enough, UM, I think we're gonna 647 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: see him back whereas it certainly feels like and basically 648 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: from all the rumblings we've been hearing like for Breeze, 649 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: probably probably the end here this year, almost no matter what. Um. 650 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,239 Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure there's something that that could change that. 651 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: But that's that's that's my feeling on the Brady Breese side, 652 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: you know, Red, I want I want to say this 653 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: about Brady. I think the reason why it works for 654 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: Brady and why he'll be able to continue on two 655 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: factors stand out to me. One, he is surrounded by 656 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: a five star cast of playmakers around him. They really 657 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: make the game easy. And the move from New England 658 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: to Tampa. I don't think we can underestimate the warm 659 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: weather and the impact it has had on his ability 660 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: to function and thrive at the end of the year. 661 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: It's kind of like playing golf. The ball flies farther 662 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: when you play in warm weather as a fools to 663 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: playing in the cold. I think he has realized the 664 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: benefits of playing in really what twelve games a year, 665 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: eleven games a year and a warm weather environment. I 666 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: think that works well for an older player, like yeah, yeah, 667 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: not to mention practicing every day in the warm weather, 668 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: that's a big part of it. And I agree with 669 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: you what we got next here, So up next, we're 670 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: talking about the turmoil with the Texans. By now, you've 671 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: probably consumed the s I piece on Jack Easterby's influence 672 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: in Houston. You've read the reports about the whole GM 673 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: search with Nick Kissario eventually ending up the kind of 674 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: out of the blue candidate that gets the job, and 675 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: now the priorities for Cassario. Here, Bucky Brooks, as we 676 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: look at Deshaun Watson's happiness in Houston and whether he 677 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: feels like this is more of the same as he 678 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,719 Speaker 1: is tweeted now since the Cassio hiring that something's never changed. 679 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: How do you view priority one for Cassio and whether 680 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: that is you know, trying to get to Shaun Watson 681 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: to come around or not and moving on. No, No, 682 00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: I think it's all about keeping DeShawn Watson in the fold. 683 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: And I think it's very clear. It's very easy to 684 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: create this relationship and making the relationship that you want. 685 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: It's about trust and communication. The first thing that Cassario 686 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: has to do is he has to communicate with the quarterback. 687 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: They got to clear the air and talk about all 688 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 1: the things that happened in the past, and that bygones 689 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: be bygones. And then it's about earning the trust. And 690 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: even though DeShawn Jack, Deshaun Watson may have been promised 691 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: to be in part, in part of the discussion or whatever, 692 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: it didn't happen. And so now he has to show 693 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: Deshaun trust me. We're gonna build this team around you. 694 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,879 Speaker 1: We know you give us the best chance to get 695 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: to a super Bowl. We're going to make sure that 696 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,720 Speaker 1: your position in the spot where you're elevated as a player. 697 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: Let me go to work. You buy in and this 698 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: will work out. But it starts with that initial conversation. 699 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: I was fascinating when there when there was the rumors 700 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: floating around about the Dolphins and you had the to 701 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: uh discussions and maybe it's two and picks, which ironically 702 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: would be Houston getting back the third pick that given 703 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: to Miami. I love that part of it. So you 704 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: get Larry tuns Alo in that trade, you give up 705 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: the two ones and you end up getting one back. 706 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 1: But now, man, to me, that's a pretty steep drop 707 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: there when you look at what Watson has accomplished in 708 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: this league with some of the uncertainty there with Toa. 709 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: But you know, look, there's all these rumors floating around. 710 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: I don't know how much you put into it. But 711 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: when you when you see the two A thing, you 712 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: can make the connection between Nick s Sario and then 713 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: you also look at potentially Brian day Ball because of 714 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,720 Speaker 1: their relationship, him coming in as a head coach. Brian 715 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: Dayball haven't been the offensive coordinator Alabama with TOA. We 716 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: think about the play that set to his career off 717 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: the game winning touchdown past the Davante Smith. There you go, 718 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 1: and and the ironic thing, Buck, how about this reunion 719 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: you make the trade. You you signed day Ball as 720 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: your head coach. You get the third pick, right, so 721 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: you get to and the third pick plus whatever else. 722 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: Use a third pick, you take DeVonta Smith's. So you've 723 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: got to a DeVonta Smith and day Ball all in Houston, 724 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:58,959 Speaker 1: and then your head just explodes. We've gotten a time machine. Yes, absolutely, 725 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: absolutely loads. Yeah. I mean that that's that's crazy to 726 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: think about there, because I think the Patriots or Texas 727 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: fans are are tired to be in the Patriots South 728 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: so much so that call McNair had to acknowledge that 729 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: he does not believe that they are Patriots South owner 730 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: of the Texas. Now they'll just be Alabama West, so 731 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: that would be You know what's interesting though, is that 732 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: there are there are teams, especially the teams that have 733 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: a lot of turnover, like you think about it. With 734 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, I I ended up going towards the 735 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: last half of Phil Savage's time with Cleveland because Cleveland 736 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: had been a little bit obsessed with Baltimore. Then George 737 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: Cokens came in there, it's a GM in Cleveland eventually 738 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: brought in Mike Petton as a head coach who had 739 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: spent time in Baltimore as a defensive coordinator. Some organizations 740 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: get a little obsessed with with other ones. That's interesting, Yeah, 741 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: it is to follow those patterns. All right. Let's move 742 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: on to another organization looking for a new power structure, 743 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: one that could be filled by one man whose former 744 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: team is on display tonight in the National Championship Games 745 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: Ohio State battles Alabama. Here, of course, talking about Urban Meyer, 746 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: the potential DJ that he ends up in Jacksonville as 747 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: the new head coach, maybe more with some personnel responsibility 748 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: with the Jags. How do you see? Like The strange 749 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 1: part about this one for me is he's such an 750 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: accomplished coach, right, DJ that, but it still feels like 751 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: a little bit, I don't want to say a reach, 752 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 1: but a bold move the guy with very little NFL experience. Yeah, 753 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 1: I think that that's been said a bunch, right. And 754 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 1: I've heard this theory and I'll get to Bucky on 755 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: this as well, but we've heard this theory. The best 756 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: thing Urban Meyer does his recruit and so he's got 757 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: better players and everybody else he plays against, that's why 758 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: he wins. You're not gonna have those same built in 759 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: advantages with the competitive balance at the professional level. My 760 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: counter to that would be, Okay, not only has he 761 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 1: been able to identify and recruit kids, he's also developed them. 762 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: We've seen him take guys like Mike Thomas and developed 763 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 1: them throughout their career. He's bought it. Of course, he's 764 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: brought in the five star kids, but he's been able 765 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: to even get those guys better. How many times have 766 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: we seen five stars go to these other places and 767 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: fizzle out? So he's been able to develop guys once 768 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 1: they've got there. He's got a winning um culture and 769 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 1: program that he's set up in terms of how they 770 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 1: go about their business and being physical, being competitive. I 771 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 1: think that's gonna play well. I think Jimmy Johnson is 772 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 1: kind of a good is is a good marker for 773 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: him of what you're hoping he can be. Another thing 774 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,839 Speaker 1: is if he goes to Jacksonville, they've got a zillion picks, 775 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: so he's gonna get a chance. And one fills swooped 776 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,399 Speaker 1: to bring in all these young players. Do I think 777 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,240 Speaker 1: that you know, Urban Meyer with a ton of veterans 778 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: on a veteran roster that you know, I could see 779 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: maybe that could get sideways. That's not the case. This 780 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: is very similar to the Cowboys buck when when Jimmy 781 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,919 Speaker 1: Johnson got there, They're gonna have a ton of young 782 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: players with a ton of young picks. You know. Dj 783 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: is something that you pointed out because everyone kind of 784 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: glosses over, Oh, well, he is a recruiter. He's always 785 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,839 Speaker 1: used to having the most talent and so that's why 786 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: he wins. But go back and look at what he 787 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 1: did at Bowling Green Butt. He had go back and 788 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: look at what he did at Utah and how he 789 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: developed Alex Smith, and how Alex Smith went from being 790 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,399 Speaker 1: a freshman that was playing okay to be a guy 791 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 1: that was the number one overall pick in the draft 792 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: because of the influence and the development that urban Meyer 793 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: had at Utah. That's it. There will be a bit 794 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,879 Speaker 1: of a transition and an adjustment. But when you look 795 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: at the Jacksonville Jaguars, this is a team that needs 796 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,439 Speaker 1: a program builder from top to bottom to bring it 797 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: all the way up to develop the young players. And 798 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: because the roster is so young and because you have 799 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: so many draft picks, this is basically just an extension 800 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: of college in terms of how he rebuilds this. Yeah, 801 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: he'll bring on some veterans, but to develop it the 802 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,280 Speaker 1: right way and to put the onus on the coaches 803 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: to take the players where they are and to get 804 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: them to another level. I absolutely believe he could be successful. 805 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,720 Speaker 1: The only thing is can he take some initial losing 806 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: and how long is he for this kind of job? 807 00:39:48,440 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: Would I don't think the Jets to watch that National 808 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 1: Championship game with their Justin's Fields pomp pomps on either way. Man, 809 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: They're like, either way, this is great for business if 810 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: he plays well, all right, let's keep it moving here. 811 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 1: Final takeaway here following Super wild Card weekend and with 812 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 1: the ten takeaway, the Eagles fired Doug Peterson. You know, 813 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: this is a move that is a little surprising based 814 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: on the amount of success that Doug Peterson had took 815 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 1: the Eagles to their only Super Bowl victory. Uh, he 816 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 1: has a winning record well over five when he comes 817 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: to it, went to the playoffs three times. And when 818 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 1: I look at this move, I'm really comes down to 819 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz or Doug Peterson. Carson Wentz your franchise quarterback. 820 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 1: You have a lot of money invested in Carson Wentz. 821 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 1: He is really like too expensive to really cut, and 822 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 1: so you have to keep him, and so it's easy 823 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: to move on from the head coach. And when you 824 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,720 Speaker 1: think about this relationship, it was fractured, evidently beyond repair. 825 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:56,280 Speaker 1: And when Doug Peterson reportedly met with ownership, Jeffrey Lurie 826 00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 1: didn't necessarily like what he heard, and so may he 827 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 1: couldn't articulate division. Maybe he couldn't necessarily plot a plan 828 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,839 Speaker 1: for getting the Eagles out of this rut. And then 829 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 1: for Doug Peterson, it may have been a situation where 830 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: he's like, too many people are advising me on how 831 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: to run this team, first when it comes to ownership 832 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: and telling them what they wanted to see, potentially with 833 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 1: the quarterback. Then when it comes to Doug Peterson running 834 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: this offense. He brought in a bunch of offensive advisors 835 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 1: Marty Moorewig Press Taylor, Rich Get Grello to try and 836 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: help this offense get going. And we saw the struggles 837 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: and so some of that frustration, I'm sure from Doug 838 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:40,800 Speaker 1: Peterson standpoint is his failures may not have been completely 839 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: on his own accord, meaning he didn't get a chance 840 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 1: to do with his way. So now you have a 841 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 1: clean break from the Eagles, Doug Peterson can go and 842 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: pursue other jobs, maybe lands in New York with Joe Douglas, 843 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 1: who they have a relationship with from the Eagles, and 844 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 1: the Eagles can go and find someone who can repair 845 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz and so this to be a fascinating development 846 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: to watch. But if you're the Eagles, it is all 847 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 1: about putting all your eggs in the Carson wins back 848 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 1: basket and hoping that your franchise quarterback can lead you 849 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 1: back to the postseason going forward. All right, Buck, this 850 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,879 Speaker 1: has been a jam packed episode. Man, It's uh, it's 851 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: really my favorite weekend of the year because we had 852 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: those those six playoff games which were outstanding. Fun time 853 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,399 Speaker 1: breaking that down today, But then we also can look forward. 854 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 1: If you check out tomorrow's Move the Six podcast, we'll 855 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,879 Speaker 1: get a chance to recap the National Championship game, which 856 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: hopefully is a great one between Ohio State and Alabama. 857 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 1: It absolutely should be a great one. All eyes are 858 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 1: on this fantastic matchup two big blue blood programs. You 859 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: have a ton of NFL prospects in this game, and 860 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: so it's fascinating to watch it. On top of every 861 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: man you can't get enough. It's been a smorgese board 862 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: with football all weekend and you get a Monday game. 863 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,839 Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't get much better than that. Now, 864 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 1: it's my favorite football weekend of the year. So we 865 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 1: have a chance to to get after the recap that 866 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 1: that big matchup between the buck Eyes and the Crimson Tide, 867 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 1: So be on the lookout for that. On the Move 868 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: the six podcast, you can find that Apple podcast. Wherever 869 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: you you find your podcast, just pump and move the 870 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 1: sticks and you can find us there. All the video 871 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: content nfl dot com slash MTS video as well as 872 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,399 Speaker 1: the YouTube channel. You can go to YouTube dot com 873 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,720 Speaker 1: slash NFL podcast. You can find all the good stuff 874 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,399 Speaker 1: there as well. Well, that's gonna do it for us today. 875 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys hanging with us. We will catch 876 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 1: you next time right here on Move the Sticks presented 877 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 1: by Castro Ledge