WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Questions, Battles and More 0:00:03.080 --> 0:00:05.520 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:14.640 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Players Lounge, 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:19.400 broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:26.000 Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny McCrae, Hecma Harrison, and 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:27.960 new he scrugs. 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:34.640 Players Lounge, Let's ride, Let's do training camp petition. We 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:36.560 are here at the Star and Frisco. The team is 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:39.640 out in Oxtar, California. That's Barry Church, former Cowboys safety. 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:44.480 Is Hecma Harrison in the building. K State Wildcat give 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:47.640 me that? North Texas Mean Green can give me that. 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:52.000 Now I play, I play with uh color color ads. 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:59.360 I'm just merely new. 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:02.120 I think the like ten time Emmy winner right here, 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:04.160 ten time eleven. 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:10.760 But up, shut up. I just I'm just here to 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:14.720 facilitate uh training camp battles. We didn't get into that. 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:17.600 So I'm gonna start with Heckler here. Heckman rose it 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:19.920 up first. So where are you looking at first for 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:21.600 training camp battles for the Cowboys. 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:23.920 I mean, think, think about this, guys right now. There 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:26.160 are so many positions that you have question marks on. 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:28.720 So I'm gonna leave enough meat on this bone for everybody, 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:31.520 all right, but right now, I think it's the defensive line. 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:35.560 You talk about this deep dan Quinn and his transition 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:37.800 with this team and the way that. 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:38.760 He's elevated them. 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:41.080 I think the defensive line has been that one position 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:44.039 where you've had a crowded and talented room, but. 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:45.720 You just hadn't had that guy emerged. 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:48.480 You've had the old Sah Diggie Zeuas, you had the 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:54.080 uh Jonathan Hankins, that interior right, interior interior guys. And 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:56.520 I think, you know, the biggest question for me is 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:58.680 where is Neville Gallipmore going to fit into this? 0:01:58.760 --> 0:01:59.120 All right? 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:02.400 Nevill gall no more and also Chauncey Golston, because these 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:04.440 are rotational guys, and when you. 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:05.840 Look at what they did in the draft and you 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:06.760 look at bringing. 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:09.640 Back guys like Dante Fowler and just the rotation that 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:12.079 they like to go with. To me, the most intriguing 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:15.040 battle is that one with Chauncey Ghoston competing for that 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:17.360 time he was on the roster for off. You know, 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:19.880 he made the fifty three all season long, but didn't 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:23.320 dress out a lot of times. So look, that's gonna 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:27.560 be intriguing gonna be interesting, especially him and his production. 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:30.160 As this dropped off. They asked him to gain some weight. 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:32.359 He came in as an edge. He gained that weight, 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:34.799 but his production dropped because they did give him the 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:38.040 same amount of snaps. So I'm interested to see how 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:39.640 that rotation is gonna evolve this year. 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:42.560 Yeah, that's gonna be real interesting with that interior d line. 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:43.680 And man, you know, I was. 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:46.520 So high on Neville Gallimore when he first came in. 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:49.040 I thought he was gonna be that next Stud three 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.679 technique right in there, but it just didn't kind of 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:53.280 pan out that way. So he's definitely gonna have to 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:56.240 battle to make the roster let alone playtime. I believe 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:57.800 he's gonna have to battle for that. But for me, 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:00.640 my position battle it's got to be in the secondary. 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:02.440 It's got to be in the secondary. And we know 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:04.840 the two outside corner spots are locked up. We know 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:06.920 Gilmore is gonna be there, we know Diggs is gonna 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:08.640 be there, we know they got that three headed monster 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:10.800 at safety. But to me, it's gonna be that nickel 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:13.440 position where you got a young Duran Bland who came 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:15.440 in as a rookie, and to me, he you know, 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:17.040 he had his ups and downs, but for the most 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:18.480 part he played outstanding. 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:19.320 You know, five. 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:21.200 Interceptions out there as a rookie. He seemed like a 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:24.040 ball guy, understood it. The moment didn't seem too big 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:26.040 for him out there, So you got him right there. 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:28.600 And then you also got Jordan Lewis who had before 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:31.120 his injury, he was playing stellar ball at that nickel position. 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:34.680 Rake Blitzer can understand the run fits, he can cover well, 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:36.440 so he can cover all the faces as well. 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:39.600 That to me, is gonna be a huge battle in. 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:41.720 That secondary because I know Jordan Lows, I know his 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:43.720 type of personality. He's not gonna just want to give 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:45.480 up that starting role. He doesn't want to be a 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:48.600 rotational guy because, trust me, in the secondary, you gotta 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:50.560 be out there. You can't, you know, rotate around. You 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:52.520 gotta feel the game. You gotta feel what the quarterback 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:54.800 likes to do on first, second, third down, and it's 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:57.640 hard to rotate that. So, knowing his personality and knowing 0:03:57.680 --> 0:03:59.800 the guy that dron Bland is, that's gonna be a 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:01.040 great battle on the secondary. 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:05.080 Here's kind of the differences between what you guys spoke about. 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.680 You're talking about a position battle where everybody making the team. 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:10.160 They're gonna be on the spot. 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:12.680 Yeah, you talking about here, there's some there's some guys 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:13.240 on the bubble. 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:14.080 Oh yeah, you know. 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:18.080 So when you talk about I thought about Quentin Bohannah. Absolutely, 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:21.120 Quentin Bohanna is here fighting for a job. Chauncey Golston's 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:23.760 here fighting for a job. Neville Gallimore The Times of 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:26.600 headn't dress last year, He's out here fighting for a job. 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:31.040 I mean, I'm thinking that. You know, we got Mozzie 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:35.240 Smith first round pick, Diggy Zoo for third round pick, 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:38.359 who was their best defensive tackle last year, Jonathan Hankins. 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:41.240 Then you got Junior Fan Joko, who Dan Quinn wanted 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:43.479 in his draft save something. 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:44.000 Yeah. 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:47.680 Good over here, man say if you're you're Bohannah, You 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:49.279 Chauncey Golston, you Gallimore. 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:53.520 I mean, especially for Quinn Bohannah. Last year he had 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:55.960 some production. You saw him come in on a lot 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:59.320 of packages. But I think that dan Quinn his defense 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:02.039 has been so versatile. You saw when he's has that 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:06.640 package where he's coming after you. He goes with Armstrong, Williams, 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:10.720 Parsons and Lawrence I mean, I mean he's switching, he's 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:12.840 multiple in the way when he goes with the jumbo. 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:15.880 Package, he goes with Bohanna Handkers. Now you have Massie Smith. 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:18.200 Guys like that. I mean, you're absolutely corrected. I mean, 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:21.479 and that's a good problem to have, a good problem. 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:22.880 Tools. 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:24.080 Yeah, I mean we've. 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:28.040 Come from the twenty twenty Dallas Cowboys defense that Look, man, 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:30.800 you have some guys that were you know, along the way. 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:33.520 I'm come on now, I'm just saying it was we 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:36.960 were bad upfront. I don't want to call these guys 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:46.520 but now but now no release resistance, skate down. I 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:50.120 wasn't going there. But what I'm saying is it's a 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:57.080 big difference, a big difference now. It really is a 0:05:57.120 --> 0:05:59.080 big difference now the team is playing, I mean the 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:01.480 way that they have this allen stacked up. You bring 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:04.320 in a guy like Jonathan Hankins and you see his versatility. 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:06.680 But I think Mazie Smith that draft pick, I mean 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:09.120 maybe a surprise people, but when you think about what 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:12.159 he represents to this defense, if he could absolutely be 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:14.800 that space eater that they need him to be, everything 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:17.080 else is gonna come behind that. I think the greatest 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:21.400 weakness even when you talk about the secondary dron Bland. 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:22.840 Has already proved to you what he can he can 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:24.720 boll I mean guys like nashn Wright. 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:26.680 Really is that those are the guys that you need 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:29.000 to start saying, Okay, can't you take the next step? 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:32.360 The bubble is really hot up under these guys, you know, so. 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:34.960 Yeah, you're fire. These guys were. 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:35.599 You know that's locked in. 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:37.600 You know, I guess they put him up put the ross. 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:41.200 They'd be like in you know, Blue, untouchable. The guys, 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:45.719 these guys, you're right, they're made men. They're on the 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:48.239 team here. These other guys, I said, if you're quittin Bohanna, 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:53.400 you know, Gallimore Golsten, I mean you truly are you 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:56.400 truly are having to put together a training camp to 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:59.560 make this team. And you know from being a free agent, 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:01.320 you can to make sure your tape is out here 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:04.040 in these preseason games for other people to see in 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:06.560 case they decide that they don't want you. I mean, 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:10.200 go back when they drafted John Ridgeway at Arkansas and 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:11.840 then they ended up letting him go and he went 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:16.240 on and started getting for Washington. You can't get got 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:18.800 here on this d line and so this has been 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.360 an area that that must be improved upon. But when 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:23.560 you bring in a guy like Mozie Smith, he's here, 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:27.640 so that just means there's one more spot that's just taken. 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:33.240 And then when Dan Quinn says, I want Junior for Hoko, sorry, 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:39.520 Dan's getting it. Unless you go up there and cut 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:40.280 up the dam. 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:41.200 It's over. 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:44.920 You know it's it's truly. So we're going to see 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:49.120 good players get cut off this football team. And we've 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:51.880 seen that the past few seasons and since Will McClay 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:53.760 has been here. And that's not us blowing smoke at all. 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:55.480 This is just the truth. You look at the fact 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:57.240 that who the Cowboys have been able to draft and 0:07:57.280 --> 0:07:59.360 how they've gone out and got free agents here. This 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:02.400 is one of the top three teams in the National 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:04.960 Football League the last ten years at going out and 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:07.360 getting Pro Bowl All Pro talent in the draft and 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:10.160 identifying people who can play. They know how to get 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:13.920 the talent here. So the defensive line has been discussive, 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:16.320 the defensive tackle has been every knee, too many people 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:19.000 running all over the Cowboys. Last year, despite beating the 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:21.960 Bears and the Lions, those two teams had good rushing. 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.080 I mean green Bay went for closer to two hundreds. 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.680 I green Bay did. I mean Rodgers only through fourteen 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:29.800 passes in that game til the fourth quarter. And then 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:31.760 you go back to the Jacksonville game when Jacksonville got 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:34.120 rolling in the second half. So stopping the run has 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:38.080 been a must. I go back to something Warren Sappo 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:41.200 always says, back don't work without the front. You know, 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:44.840 the Cowboys secondary is good. If you can improve the 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:47.560 defensive line, that's a scary sight. 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:49.280 But that's been the biggest question. 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:51.160 And I guess for you, man, I think you've played 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:55.440 with some great defensive linemen, so you know how that works, 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:59.520 especially with your secondary. And the point basically that you're 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:01.920 approve it. I think when you add the players in 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.120 and we're gonna talk about those editions, but I think 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:07.400 the secondary is much better when you have that pass rushing. 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:10.800 We saw that in the twenty twenty one when Dan 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:13.400 quinnz first. I mean, look, they were causing those turnovers, 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:15.720 those interceptions. They set the record in the league with 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:20.040 being one of those high turnover teams. But this year 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:22.560 it just seems as though if you can get that 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:25.439 front line to stop and not having those two hundred 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:27.560 yard production games that they saw by some of the 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:30.240 league's best rushers. They're gonna have to shut that down 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:33.559 because who do we keep running into? Who do we 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:35.960 keep one of the better rushing teams in the league. 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:38.200 And so until we get that figured out, that's gonna 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.240 be our Achilles hell, because it's a hundred you guys, 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:41.520 one hundred percent right Russian cover. 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:42.360 They work together. 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:44.640 And the teams that I've been on that weren't very 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:46.920 good that defensive line, I mean there was holes all 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:49.560 through there, and as a secondary guy, you're not really 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:51.679 focused on your job. You're not focused on covering your 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:53.400 receiver because you're like, man, if this is running back 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:54.880 slips through here, I'm gonna have to make an open 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:55.520 field tackle. 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:57.560 So with you got a front seven. 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:59.200 A defensive line that can control to run like that 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:01.960 and then get after a quarterback, it allows dan Quinn 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:04.320 to do so much in the secondary guys at corner, 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:06.800 at the safety position, they can have their eyes at 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:08.520 the quarterback because they know that ball's got to come 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:11.000 out fast, So you're able to get interceptions that way. 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.480 And I think right now, this defensive line, like you said, 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:15.880 it's probably the deepens it's been in years. We know 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:19.080 the edges under attack with parsons, with d Law I 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:21.720 mean Filer, all those guys out there. If Mozzie Smith 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:24.040 and that crew on the interior can get going, it could. 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:25.120 Be a scary site for this defense. 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:29.880 So training camp, we've not seen them put pads on 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:34.520 yet the NFL rules. So I'm leaving on Monday Tuesday. Okay, 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:36.679 they're gonna get after it. Pads and pads are on, 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:40.200 and I'm looking forward to that because this is where 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:43.440 we start to see football. Everything we've seen now it's 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:46.959 been nice. It's ota when guys start popping, start hitting, 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:50.280 we see things get done. So obviously we clearly want 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:52.800 to see what's Mozzie Smith got. I want to see 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:55.080 what junior Federl Coas got. I want to see if 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:58.080 Josh Ball makes the improvement on the offensive side of 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:01.640 the football that Mike McCarthy leaves. He can they love Will, 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:04.520 Let's go so Matt Will. Let's go over another offensive 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:07.480 tackle that they've drafted. He was having a good camp 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:09.760 last year until he got hurt, dealt with the shoulder. 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:13.040 So what does he do now? This to me is 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:18.720 where you start to really make your football team December ready, 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:21.840 because I'm sorry, Church, in today's world, when you add 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:25.520 seventeen games to me, guy's gonna be hurt. It's in fact, 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.679 you have to have depth in the national football No. 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:30.880 I take you back to last season. 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:35.080 Jason Peters started at left tackle for the Doubts Cowboy, 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:37.320 I mean a forty year old left tackle. So we 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:39.600 know what it's like when you don't have the trust 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:42.160 in the depth that you have in Josh. Ball has 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:45.400 been given an opportunity to continue to get better. He 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:47.400 been on the pub whatever it was with let's go 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:49.720 to with the shoulder and durs as you spoke about. 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:52.000 But that's the one thing, and I think. 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:55.720 That's why this whole holdout situation that they're having to 0:11:55.720 --> 0:12:00.240 deal with with Zach is unnerving because you recognize you 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.480 need your unit playing together right now. You need these 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:06.439 guys to come into the season rolling. You don't need 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:08.040 any disruption between that unit. 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:08.920 And I'm not. 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:10.760 Worried about Mark Zach gonna get done. 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:11.400 Could have got to. 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:15.000 I mean, there's no there's no other way from Zach 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:15.960 right to. 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:17.640 Take a little bit time you talking about that thing 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:20.280 right now, I'll see in August. But I just I 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:23.760 think this is excellent from the standpoint. You can get 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:26.120 some guys some some playing time in here right now. 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:29.880 And when Zach is here, Zach will be Zach Martin. 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:32.600 You know what I mean, They'll right go ahead. 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:35.400 I'm not and I'm not at all worried about his player. 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:37.720 I want to see guys. I want to see guys 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:41.040 practice right now, get some reps, get out there, show 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:44.040 people what you can do at those especially within those 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:46.240 guards and tackle spots. And know, n Steel, they're saying, 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:48.280 looks good, but let's see how good you look when 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:50.959 you put on the paths. Tyron Smith is expected to 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:53.760 be the left tackle the game. We know at the 0:12:53.800 --> 0:13:00.920 end of the day, I'm just death we have on 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:05.840 that line. Let's man got the best tackle in the game, man, 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.720 So to me line with a new old. 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:13.040 Line, coach true, got rid of your man so which I. 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:13.520 Was kind of. 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:18.520 So these so for me that that's what I'm looking 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:20.160 forward to when I get to camp. I want to 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:23.240 go and see the pads pop and see what guys 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:25.360 can do. Really looking forward to that more than anything 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:26.199 that's real football. 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:27.439 I mean right now, you got on you know, like 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:29.440 you said, you got on jerseys and shorts and everybody 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:31.880 looks great and shirt shorts out there. You gotta work 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:34.160 out warriors, everybody looks amazing. But when you put the 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:37.040 pads on an extra weight, that heat you're hitting back and. 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:38.760 Forth, that's when we see real bud. And then you 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:40.880 have a defense with all the experience that they have. 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:42.880 I worry if they even gonna be able to get 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:46.160 reps off with this this defense, the way that they're 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:49.280 coming back and dan Quinn's system, I mean, man, this 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:51.679 is gonna this is gonna be difficult for the offensive line. 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:53.400 They're gonna get a lot of reps, and guys like 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:57.200 Tyler Smith is gonna get all the words. Guys like that, 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:59.240 they're gonna get a lot of reps. So, I mean, 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:00.720 I think as much as you want to see guys 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:03.160 like Josh Ball take the next step, be that backup 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:05.320 if we need them, I mean that's necessary. You bring 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:07.640 up an important point because you want to see these 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:11.600 guys develop, But bigger than that. Tyler Smith in his 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:13.760 second year, I mean, he had a good he had 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.439 a good rookie season, but I think we all feel 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:18.280 that there's a level to his game that can even 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:20.960 get better, especially with them solidifying that he's going to 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:21.800 be your left guards. 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:23.160 So he's gonna be the guard, right, so. 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:26.000 Posiness, Yes, he's your guard. 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:29.760 Got Tyron Smith over at left tackle. These draft picks 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:31.560 have to start to show you something. I do know people, 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.640 there's some folks who wanted to see the Cowboys use 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:39.400 higher picks an offensive line, and they like, we took Ball, 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:41.320 we took what. Let's go, let's see what they can do. 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:44.840 So Ball's first year was wiped out through injury. Last 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:47.640 year was his first year playing. He's pulls out there 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:50.840 and you're like, hm, but this now. 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:51.160 Is year two. 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:53.280 We've got to see something. Well, let's go, this is 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:56.280 going first year gone, Now this is his second. Let's 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:58.680 start to see something. Kelvin Joseph, how do you improve? 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:00.880 Jaylen Tolbert, how do you imp? I mean you're looking 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:02.480 at this team. For me when I'm going out there, 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:04.480 I'm looking at where these draft picks they've got that 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:08.040 they've taken. Who you say, Okay, what are we seeing? 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:10.160 Tom and Andrews to say, by year three, we have 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.640 to see something, and that was what Bill Parcells also went. 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:15.200 By two, we've got to see something. So that's my 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:17.360 main thing is really looking at these guys today. At 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:19.320 one point in time said we believe in you. They 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:21.960 shot right, you know, Okay, what are you going to do? 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:26.080 Because you played in this league. You know, by year three, 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:28.760 they kind of they have a thought process about who 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:31.040 you are. And for some of these guys that had, 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:34.360 you know, basically a health year and didn't play like 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:37.200 well that's going the ball, they're starting to they need 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:40.600 to see something. Calvin Joseph, I need to see something 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:41.200 this year. 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:43.040 Because he can't just be on special teams either. I mean, 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:44.720 even though he did his thing on special teams. He 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:46.400 ball made a lot of plays on special teams. But 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:49.240 they've drafted in what second round is supposed to go 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:49.560 in there? 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:53.200 Tell me if you've heard that before. Cox another guy 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:54.760 that needs to up his play. 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:56.280 But I mean, you're you're absolutely right. 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:58.920 But then think about the guys that are the second 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:01.720 year guys like Marque's Bell that's getting an opportunity now 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:06.120 to play because of injury. Israel mccuamo obviously, you man, 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:09.120 you're one of the first guys that's called Israel mcuamoo 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.320 and said, look, this guy is his production is there, 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:14.560 and I think that dan Quinn loves his play as 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:16.760 that backup guy, the other guy that at that depth. 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:19.080 But there are other guys like Marque's Bell that are 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:21.840 very intriguing, Like he was on the fifty three all 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:24.480 season long, healthy scratches, not not able to get on 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:27.200 the field. How do you incorporate guys like that because 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:28.880 you just can't hoard that talent for. 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:30.960 Guys like that, you know, like with Kwama, who's like 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:33.120 a Swiss army knife out there. And dan Quinn loves 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:35.120 guys that can have you know, position flex, he can 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.040 play nickel, he can play safe, he can do all 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:37.480 that stuff. 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:38.640 Hopefully Marquis Bell. 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:39.400 Can do the same thing. 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:40.480 We'll see what happens. 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:43.160 I think a Bell is someone who you know, he 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:45.560 played at Florida A and M. Yeah, you're making that 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:49.680 jump here, and it takes some times not easy. So 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:51.640 many times we just want guys to just jump in 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:55.160 here and go. Jerry Wrice his first year was a struggle. Yeah, 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:59.080 Troy Polamalo's first year with the Steelers, it was a struggle. 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:01.440 These two guys have turned out to be Hall of 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:03.520 Fame players, but so many times we just if a 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:06.080 guy's not doing it from day one. Oh he's nott this, 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:10.320 He's not. It's just how life works for good football 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.520 and that life works. It takes. It's an adjustment and 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:16.880 coming from Florida and m making the adjustment, figuring out 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:20.639 what Dan wants and the other part, agma, is there 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.560 a lot of these guys who have to learn how 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:27.000 to do simple things like learn how to sleep, eat, 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.840 the way you go about being a professional hydrate like, 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:33.720 there's a lot of stuff that comes into to being 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:36.600 a football player that it takes certain guys, you know, 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:38.919 a minute to get to Ezekiel Elliott. You know, Boom 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:41.160 came in here, ran ran away with it, Dak because 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:43.560 a rookie ran away with It's not like that for everyone. 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:46.160 I think so many times fans want that if you're 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:48.080 a player, is not that, then they want to save 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:50.320 the guy's a bus. He's not any good. It's just 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:51.320 not how it works for everyone. 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:53.119 Look at Terror still, I mean when he came in 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:54.640 that rookie year and they threw him. 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:56.359 Into the fire. Look how much he struggled out there. 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:58.240 I mean he was on the bubble going into that 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:00.000