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Speaker 2: Players Lounge, Let's ride, Let's do training camp petition. We
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Speaker 2: out in Oxtar, California. That's Barry Church, former Cowboys safety.
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Speaker 3: I think the like ten time Emmy winner right here,
Speaker 3: ten time eleven.
Speaker 2: But up, shut up. I just I'm just here to
Speaker 2: facilitate uh training camp battles. We didn't get into that.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna start with Heckler here. Heckman rose it
Speaker 2: up first. So where are you looking at first for
Speaker 2: training camp battles for the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: I mean, think, think about this, guys right now. There
Speaker 4: are so many positions that you have question marks on.
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna leave enough meat on this bone for everybody,
Speaker 4: all right, but right now, I think it's the defensive line.
Speaker 4: You talk about this deep dan Quinn and his transition
Speaker 4: with this team and the way that.
Speaker 5: He's elevated them.
Speaker 4: I think the defensive line has been that one position
Speaker 4: where you've had a crowded and talented room, but.
Speaker 5: You just hadn't had that guy emerged.
Speaker 4: You've had the old Sah Diggie Zeuas, you had the
Speaker 4: uh Jonathan Hankins, that interior right, interior interior guys. And
Speaker 4: I think, you know, the biggest question for me is
Speaker 4: where is Neville Gallipmore going to fit into this?
Speaker 6: All right?
Speaker 4: Nevill gall no more and also Chauncey Golston, because these
Speaker 4: are rotational guys, and when you.
Speaker 6: Look at what they did in the draft and you
Speaker 6: look at bringing.
Speaker 4: Back guys like Dante Fowler and just the rotation that
Speaker 4: they like to go with. To me, the most intriguing
Speaker 4: battle is that one with Chauncey Ghoston competing for that
Speaker 4: time he was on the roster for off. You know,
Speaker 4: he made the fifty three all season long, but didn't
Speaker 4: dress out a lot of times. So look, that's gonna
Speaker 4: be intriguing gonna be interesting, especially him and his production.
Speaker 4: As this dropped off. They asked him to gain some weight.
Speaker 4: He came in as an edge. He gained that weight,
Speaker 4: but his production dropped because they did give him the
Speaker 4: same amount of snaps. So I'm interested to see how
Speaker 4: that rotation is gonna evolve this year.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's gonna be real interesting with that interior d line.
Speaker 5: And man, you know, I was.
Speaker 6: So high on Neville Gallimore when he first came in.
Speaker 3: I thought he was gonna be that next Stud three
Speaker 3: technique right in there, but it just didn't kind of
Speaker 3: pan out that way. So he's definitely gonna have to
Speaker 3: battle to make the roster let alone playtime. I believe
Speaker 3: he's gonna have to battle for that. But for me,
Speaker 3: my position battle it's got to be in the secondary.
Speaker 3: It's got to be in the secondary. And we know
Speaker 3: the two outside corner spots are locked up. We know
Speaker 3: Gilmore is gonna be there, we know Diggs is gonna
Speaker 3: be there, we know they got that three headed monster
Speaker 3: at safety. But to me, it's gonna be that nickel
Speaker 3: position where you got a young Duran Bland who came
Speaker 3: in as a rookie, and to me, he you know,
Speaker 3: he had his ups and downs, but for the most
Speaker 3: part he played outstanding.
Speaker 6: You know, five.
Speaker 3: Interceptions out there as a rookie. He seemed like a
Speaker 3: ball guy, understood it. The moment didn't seem too big
Speaker 3: for him out there, So you got him right there.
Speaker 3: And then you also got Jordan Lewis who had before
Speaker 3: his injury, he was playing stellar ball at that nickel position.
Speaker 3: Rake Blitzer can understand the run fits, he can cover well,
Speaker 3: so he can cover all the faces as well.
Speaker 6: That to me, is gonna be a huge battle in.
Speaker 3: That secondary because I know Jordan Lows, I know his
Speaker 3: type of personality. He's not gonna just want to give
Speaker 3: up that starting role. He doesn't want to be a
Speaker 3: rotational guy because, trust me, in the secondary, you gotta
Speaker 3: be out there. You can't, you know, rotate around. You
Speaker 3: gotta feel the game. You gotta feel what the quarterback
Speaker 3: likes to do on first, second, third down, and it's
Speaker 3: hard to rotate that. So, knowing his personality and knowing
Speaker 3: the guy that dron Bland is, that's gonna be a
Speaker 3: great battle on the secondary.
Speaker 2: Here's kind of the differences between what you guys spoke about.
Speaker 2: You're talking about a position battle where everybody making the team.
Speaker 5: They're gonna be on the spot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you talking about here, there's some there's some guys
Speaker 2: on the bubble.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: So when you talk about I thought about Quentin Bohannah. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: Quentin Bohanna is here fighting for a job. Chauncey Golston's
Speaker 2: here fighting for a job. Neville Gallimore The Times of
Speaker 2: headn't dress last year, He's out here fighting for a job.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm thinking that. You know, we got Mozzie
Speaker 2: Smith first round pick, Diggy Zoo for third round pick,
Speaker 2: who was their best defensive tackle last year, Jonathan Hankins.
Speaker 2: Then you got Junior Fan Joko, who Dan Quinn wanted
Speaker 2: in his draft save something.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Good over here, man say if you're you're Bohannah, You
Speaker 2: Chauncey Golston, you Gallimore.
Speaker 4: I mean, especially for Quinn Bohannah. Last year he had
Speaker 4: some production. You saw him come in on a lot
Speaker 4: of packages. But I think that dan Quinn his defense
Speaker 4: has been so versatile. You saw when he's has that
Speaker 4: package where he's coming after you. He goes with Armstrong, Williams,
Speaker 4: Parsons and Lawrence I mean, I mean he's switching, he's
Speaker 4: multiple in the way when he goes with the jumbo.
Speaker 6: Package, he goes with Bohanna Handkers. Now you have Massie Smith.
Speaker 4: Guys like that. I mean, you're absolutely corrected. I mean,
Speaker 4: and that's a good problem to have, a good problem.
Speaker 7: Tools.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean we've.
Speaker 4: Come from the twenty twenty Dallas Cowboys defense that Look, man,
Speaker 4: you have some guys that were you know, along the way.
Speaker 4: I'm come on now, I'm just saying it was we
Speaker 4: were bad upfront. I don't want to call these guys
Speaker 4: but now but now no release resistance, skate down. I
Speaker 4: wasn't going there. But what I'm saying is it's a
Speaker 4: big difference, a big difference now. It really is a
Speaker 4: big difference now the team is playing, I mean the
Speaker 4: way that they have this allen stacked up. You bring
Speaker 4: in a guy like Jonathan Hankins and you see his versatility.
Speaker 4: But I think Mazie Smith that draft pick, I mean
Speaker 4: maybe a surprise people, but when you think about what
Speaker 4: he represents to this defense, if he could absolutely be
Speaker 4: that space eater that they need him to be, everything
Speaker 4: else is gonna come behind that. I think the greatest
Speaker 4: weakness even when you talk about the secondary dron Bland.
Speaker 6: Has already proved to you what he can he can
Speaker 6: boll I mean guys like nashn Wright.
Speaker 4: Really is that those are the guys that you need
Speaker 4: to start saying, Okay, can't you take the next step?
Speaker 4: The bubble is really hot up under these guys, you know, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're fire. These guys were.
Speaker 5: You know that's locked in.
Speaker 2: You know, I guess they put him up put the ross.
Speaker 2: They'd be like in you know, Blue, untouchable. The guys,
Speaker 2: these guys, you're right, they're made men. They're on the
Speaker 2: team here. These other guys, I said, if you're quittin Bohanna,
Speaker 2: you know, Gallimore Golsten, I mean you truly are you
Speaker 2: truly are having to put together a training camp to
Speaker 2: make this team. And you know from being a free agent,
Speaker 2: you can to make sure your tape is out here
Speaker 2: in these preseason games for other people to see in
Speaker 2: case they decide that they don't want you. I mean,
Speaker 2: go back when they drafted John Ridgeway at Arkansas and
Speaker 2: then they ended up letting him go and he went
Speaker 2: on and started getting for Washington. You can't get got
Speaker 2: here on this d line and so this has been
Speaker 2: an area that that must be improved upon. But when
Speaker 2: you bring in a guy like Mozie Smith, he's here,
Speaker 2: so that just means there's one more spot that's just taken.
Speaker 2: And then when Dan Quinn says, I want Junior for Hoko, sorry,
Speaker 2: Dan's getting it. Unless you go up there and cut
Speaker 2: up the dam.
Speaker 5: It's over.
Speaker 2: You know it's it's truly. So we're going to see
Speaker 2: good players get cut off this football team. And we've
Speaker 2: seen that the past few seasons and since Will McClay
Speaker 2: has been here. And that's not us blowing smoke at all.
Speaker 2: This is just the truth. You look at the fact
Speaker 2: that who the Cowboys have been able to draft and
Speaker 2: how they've gone out and got free agents here. This
Speaker 2: is one of the top three teams in the National
Speaker 2: Football League the last ten years at going out and
Speaker 2: getting Pro Bowl All Pro talent in the draft and
Speaker 2: identifying people who can play. They know how to get
Speaker 2: the talent here. So the defensive line has been discussive,
Speaker 2: the defensive tackle has been every knee, too many people
Speaker 2: running all over the Cowboys. Last year, despite beating the
Speaker 2: Bears and the Lions, those two teams had good rushing.
Speaker 6: I mean green Bay went for closer to two hundreds.
Speaker 2: I green Bay did. I mean Rodgers only through fourteen
Speaker 2: passes in that game til the fourth quarter. And then
Speaker 2: you go back to the Jacksonville game when Jacksonville got
Speaker 2: rolling in the second half. So stopping the run has
Speaker 2: been a must. I go back to something Warren Sappo
Speaker 2: always says, back don't work without the front. You know,
Speaker 2: the Cowboys secondary is good. If you can improve the
Speaker 2: defensive line, that's a scary sight.
Speaker 6: But that's been the biggest question.
Speaker 4: And I guess for you, man, I think you've played
Speaker 4: with some great defensive linemen, so you know how that works,
Speaker 4: especially with your secondary. And the point basically that you're
Speaker 4: approve it. I think when you add the players in
Speaker 4: and we're gonna talk about those editions, but I think
Speaker 4: the secondary is much better when you have that pass rushing.
Speaker 4: We saw that in the twenty twenty one when Dan
Speaker 4: quinnz first. I mean, look, they were causing those turnovers,
Speaker 4: those interceptions. They set the record in the league with
Speaker 4: being one of those high turnover teams. But this year
Speaker 4: it just seems as though if you can get that
Speaker 4: front line to stop and not having those two hundred
Speaker 4: yard production games that they saw by some of the
Speaker 4: league's best rushers. They're gonna have to shut that down
Speaker 4: because who do we keep running into? Who do we
Speaker 4: keep one of the better rushing teams in the league.
Speaker 4: And so until we get that figured out, that's gonna
Speaker 4: be our Achilles hell, because it's a hundred you guys,
Speaker 4: one hundred percent right Russian cover.
Speaker 5: They work together.
Speaker 3: And the teams that I've been on that weren't very
Speaker 3: good that defensive line, I mean there was holes all
Speaker 3: through there, and as a secondary guy, you're not really
Speaker 3: focused on your job. You're not focused on covering your
Speaker 3: receiver because you're like, man, if this is running back
Speaker 3: slips through here, I'm gonna have to make an open
Speaker 3: field tackle.
Speaker 5: So with you got a front seven.
Speaker 3: A defensive line that can control to run like that
Speaker 3: and then get after a quarterback, it allows dan Quinn
Speaker 3: to do so much in the secondary guys at corner,
Speaker 3: at the safety position, they can have their eyes at
Speaker 3: the quarterback because they know that ball's got to come
Speaker 3: out fast, So you're able to get interceptions that way.
Speaker 3: And I think right now, this defensive line, like you said,
Speaker 3: it's probably the deepens it's been in years. We know
Speaker 3: the edges under attack with parsons, with d Law I
Speaker 3: mean Filer, all those guys out there. If Mozzie Smith
Speaker 3: and that crew on the interior can get going, it could.
Speaker 5: Be a scary site for this defense.
Speaker 2: So training camp, we've not seen them put pads on
Speaker 2: yet the NFL rules. So I'm leaving on Monday Tuesday. Okay,
Speaker 2: they're gonna get after it. Pads and pads are on,
Speaker 2: and I'm looking forward to that because this is where
Speaker 2: we start to see football. Everything we've seen now it's
Speaker 2: been nice. It's ota when guys start popping, start hitting,
Speaker 2: we see things get done. So obviously we clearly want
Speaker 2: to see what's Mozzie Smith got. I want to see
Speaker 2: what junior Federl Coas got. I want to see if
Speaker 2: Josh Ball makes the improvement on the offensive side of
Speaker 2: the football that Mike McCarthy leaves. He can they love Will,
Speaker 2: Let's go so Matt Will. Let's go over another offensive
Speaker 2: tackle that they've drafted. He was having a good camp
Speaker 2: last year until he got hurt, dealt with the shoulder.
Speaker 2: So what does he do now? This to me is
Speaker 2: where you start to really make your football team December ready,
Speaker 2: because I'm sorry, Church, in today's world, when you add
Speaker 2: seventeen games to me, guy's gonna be hurt. It's in fact,
Speaker 2: you have to have depth in the national football No.
Speaker 5: I take you back to last season.
Speaker 4: Jason Peters started at left tackle for the Doubts Cowboy,
Speaker 4: I mean a forty year old left tackle. So we
Speaker 4: know what it's like when you don't have the trust
Speaker 4: in the depth that you have in Josh. Ball has
Speaker 4: been given an opportunity to continue to get better. He
Speaker 4: been on the pub whatever it was with let's go
Speaker 4: to with the shoulder and durs as you spoke about.
Speaker 5: But that's the one thing, and I think.
Speaker 4: That's why this whole holdout situation that they're having to
Speaker 4: deal with with Zach is unnerving because you recognize you
Speaker 4: need your unit playing together right now. You need these
Speaker 4: guys to come into the season rolling. You don't need
Speaker 4: any disruption between that unit.
Speaker 6: And I'm not.
Speaker 2: Worried about Mark Zach gonna get done.
Speaker 6: Could have got to.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's no there's no other way from Zach
Speaker 4: right to.
Speaker 2: Take a little bit time you talking about that thing
Speaker 2: right now, I'll see in August. But I just I
Speaker 2: think this is excellent from the standpoint. You can get
Speaker 2: some guys some some playing time in here right now.
Speaker 2: And when Zach is here, Zach will be Zach Martin.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, They'll right go ahead.
Speaker 6: I'm not and I'm not at all worried about his player.
Speaker 2: I want to see guys. I want to see guys
Speaker 2: practice right now, get some reps, get out there, show
Speaker 2: people what you can do at those especially within those
Speaker 2: guards and tackle spots. And know, n Steel, they're saying,
Speaker 2: looks good, but let's see how good you look when
Speaker 2: you put on the paths. Tyron Smith is expected to
Speaker 2: be the left tackle the game. We know at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, I'm just death we have on
Speaker 2: that line. Let's man got the best tackle in the game, man,
Speaker 2: So to me line with a new old.
Speaker 5: Line, coach true, got rid of your man so which I.
Speaker 7: Was kind of.
Speaker 2: So these so for me that that's what I'm looking
Speaker 2: forward to when I get to camp. I want to
Speaker 2: go and see the pads pop and see what guys
Speaker 2: can do. Really looking forward to that more than anything
Speaker 2: that's real football.
Speaker 3: I mean right now, you got on you know, like
Speaker 3: you said, you got on jerseys and shorts and everybody
Speaker 3: looks great and shirt shorts out there. You gotta work
Speaker 3: out warriors, everybody looks amazing. But when you put the
Speaker 3: pads on an extra weight, that heat you're hitting back and.
Speaker 4: Forth, that's when we see real bud. And then you
Speaker 4: have a defense with all the experience that they have.
Speaker 4: I worry if they even gonna be able to get
Speaker 4: reps off with this this defense, the way that they're
Speaker 4: coming back and dan Quinn's system, I mean, man, this
Speaker 4: is gonna this is gonna be difficult for the offensive line.
Speaker 4: They're gonna get a lot of reps, and guys like
Speaker 4: Tyler Smith is gonna get all the words. Guys like that,
Speaker 4: they're gonna get a lot of reps. So, I mean,
Speaker 4: I think as much as you want to see guys
Speaker 4: like Josh Ball take the next step, be that backup
Speaker 4: if we need them, I mean that's necessary. You bring
Speaker 4: up an important point because you want to see these
Speaker 4: guys develop, But bigger than that. Tyler Smith in his
Speaker 4: second year, I mean, he had a good he had
Speaker 4: a good rookie season, but I think we all feel
Speaker 4: that there's a level to his game that can even
Speaker 4: get better, especially with them solidifying that he's going to
Speaker 4: be your left guards.
Speaker 5: So he's gonna be the guard, right, so.
Speaker 6: Posiness, Yes, he's your guard.
Speaker 2: Got Tyron Smith over at left tackle. These draft picks
Speaker 2: have to start to show you something. I do know people,
Speaker 2: there's some folks who wanted to see the Cowboys use
Speaker 2: higher picks an offensive line, and they like, we took Ball,
Speaker 2: we took what. Let's go, let's see what they can do.
Speaker 2: So Ball's first year was wiped out through injury. Last
Speaker 2: year was his first year playing. He's pulls out there
Speaker 2: and you're like, hm, but this now.
Speaker 5: Is year two.
Speaker 2: We've got to see something. Well, let's go, this is
Speaker 2: going first year gone, Now this is his second. Let's
Speaker 2: start to see something. Kelvin Joseph, how do you improve?
Speaker 2: Jaylen Tolbert, how do you imp? I mean you're looking
Speaker 2: at this team. For me when I'm going out there,
Speaker 2: I'm looking at where these draft picks they've got that
Speaker 2: they've taken. Who you say, Okay, what are we seeing?
Speaker 2: Tom and Andrews to say, by year three, we have
Speaker 2: to see something, and that was what Bill Parcells also went.
Speaker 2: By two, we've got to see something. So that's my
Speaker 2: main thing is really looking at these guys today. At
Speaker 2: one point in time said we believe in you. They
Speaker 2: shot right, you know, Okay, what are you going to do?
Speaker 2: Because you played in this league. You know, by year three,
Speaker 2: they kind of they have a thought process about who
Speaker 2: you are. And for some of these guys that had,
Speaker 2: you know, basically a health year and didn't play like
Speaker 2: well that's going the ball, they're starting to they need
Speaker 2: to see something. Calvin Joseph, I need to see something
Speaker 2: this year.
Speaker 3: Because he can't just be on special teams either. I mean,
Speaker 3: even though he did his thing on special teams. He
Speaker 3: ball made a lot of plays on special teams. But
Speaker 3: they've drafted in what second round is supposed to go
Speaker 3: in there?
Speaker 4: Tell me if you've heard that before. Cox another guy
Speaker 4: that needs to up his play.
Speaker 5: But I mean, you're you're absolutely right.
Speaker 4: But then think about the guys that are the second
Speaker 4: year guys like Marque's Bell that's getting an opportunity now
Speaker 4: to play because of injury. Israel mccuamo obviously, you man,
Speaker 4: you're one of the first guys that's called Israel mcuamoo
Speaker 4: and said, look, this guy is his production is there,
Speaker 4: and I think that dan Quinn loves his play as
Speaker 4: that backup guy, the other guy that at that depth.
Speaker 4: But there are other guys like Marque's Bell that are
Speaker 4: very intriguing, Like he was on the fifty three all
Speaker 4: season long, healthy scratches, not not able to get on
Speaker 4: the field. How do you incorporate guys like that because
Speaker 4: you just can't hoard that talent for.
Speaker 3: Guys like that, you know, like with Kwama, who's like
Speaker 3: a Swiss army knife out there. And dan Quinn loves
Speaker 3: guys that can have you know, position flex, he can
Speaker 3: play nickel, he can play safe, he can do all
Speaker 3: that stuff.
Speaker 5: Hopefully Marquis Bell.
Speaker 6: Can do the same thing.
Speaker 5: We'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: I think a Bell is someone who you know, he
Speaker 2: played at Florida A and M. Yeah, you're making that
Speaker 2: jump here, and it takes some times not easy. So
Speaker 2: many times we just want guys to just jump in
Speaker 2: here and go. Jerry Wrice his first year was a struggle. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Troy Polamalo's first year with the Steelers, it was a struggle.
Speaker 2: These two guys have turned out to be Hall of
Speaker 2: Fame players, but so many times we just if a
Speaker 2: guy's not doing it from day one. Oh he's nott this,
Speaker 2: He's not. It's just how life works for good football
Speaker 2: and that life works. It takes. It's an adjustment and
Speaker 2: coming from Florida and m making the adjustment, figuring out
Speaker 2: what Dan wants and the other part, agma, is there
Speaker 2: a lot of these guys who have to learn how
Speaker 2: to do simple things like learn how to sleep, eat,
Speaker 2: the way you go about being a professional hydrate like,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of stuff that comes into to being
Speaker 2: a football player that it takes certain guys, you know,
Speaker 2: a minute to get to Ezekiel Elliott. You know, Boom
Speaker 2: came in here, ran ran away with it, Dak because
Speaker 2: a rookie ran away with It's not like that for everyone.
Speaker 2: I think so many times fans want that if you're
Speaker 2: a player, is not that, then they want to save
Speaker 2: the guy's a bus. He's not any good. It's just
Speaker 2: not how it works for everyone.
Speaker 6: Look at Terror still, I mean when he came in
Speaker 6: that rookie year and they threw him.
Speaker 3: Into the fire. Look how much he struggled out there.
Speaker 3: I mean he was on the bubble going into that
Speaker 3: second year. Is he gonna make the team is he not.
Speaker 3: We saw he you know, dedicated itself to get better
Speaker 3: at his craft and he went out there and he
Speaker 3: had a heck of a second year. So hopefully he
Speaker 3: can follow that up after this ACL injury. But to me,
Speaker 3: that's just an example of guys that you know, come in,
Speaker 3: start off slow, but have the ability to develop.
Speaker 2: And it become comfortable.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is I'll give it to baseball terms.
Speaker 2: I was talking to Marcus Simon and even Corey Seeger.
Speaker 2: You know, they signed those big deals with the Rangers,
Speaker 2: and it took him a year. They talked about after him. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it took a year to get comfortable. Well, imagine you
Speaker 2: just going from playing swackball to coming up to the
Speaker 2: National Football League.
Speaker 5: Man, that's that's a gap.
Speaker 2: That's a difference. It's a jump. And even for you
Speaker 2: coming from Toledo to come here, man, there's a jump.
Speaker 2: I think about Tony Romo. Tony Romo, a lot of
Speaker 2: people forget was the Walter Payton Player of the Year
Speaker 2: at Eastern Illinois, which is you know, their Heightsman, that
Speaker 2: level took Tony a minute to figure this thing out here.
Speaker 2: So we always want to boom if you're not. We
Speaker 2: want a microwave society here on everything. You can't do
Speaker 2: players like that. And as long as dan Quinn keep
Speaker 2: saying I like the player, then I'm gona.
Speaker 6: Rolling with it.
Speaker 4: And I think for me, what we're pointing out is
Speaker 4: just guys getting opportunities now in training camps, you know,
Speaker 4: and you look at guys like Dak when you know
Speaker 4: the opportunity rose, what did he do?
Speaker 6: He roll?
Speaker 4: He took full advantage. And there are guys on the
Speaker 4: roster that right now, due to injury, are getting that opportunity.
Speaker 4: Marquis Bell is just one of them, and he's in
Speaker 4: the long list of guys that have to take advantage.
Speaker 4: When a guy goes down, you have to show what
Speaker 4: you have. Kelvin Joseph is in that same is in
Speaker 4: that same name bracket.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Donovan Wilson down a little bit, So that's
Speaker 2: where Bell is going to get his opportunity. Zach Martin
Speaker 2: your right guard out, So that means the opportunity for
Speaker 2: other people. So take advantage of these reps and this
Speaker 2: opportunity to show your wares and go. Now we have
Speaker 2: less preseason games, you know, instead of having four, you've
Speaker 2: got three, so there's there's more urgency to make these
Speaker 2: training camp practices and then you don't have so many
Speaker 2: padded practices to count. So that those are some of
Speaker 2: the some of the things that I look at here
Speaker 2: when we come back. The impact two guys that they
Speaker 2: have imported into this football team, I absolutely love. I
Speaker 2: had a thought of what I hope they can do.
Speaker 2: I'm seeing it already again and he had a full
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Speaker 5: All right, yes, all right.
Speaker 2: Two players that the Cowboys got through trades that I
Speaker 2: absolutely love. We all love that they brought them in,
Speaker 2: brought them in, but I love the impact of making already.
Speaker 2: Stephan Galli, former Defensive Player of the Year. We saw
Speaker 2: him playing last year with the Colts. On the Cowboys
Speaker 2: played the Colts taking the press. He was an impact
Speaker 2: player there. And then Brandon Cooks. And it's interesting Gallimore
Speaker 2: and Cooks, I said, Sevin Gilmore. Gilmore and Cooks both
Speaker 2: played for the Patriots, played on the Super Bowl team together,
Speaker 2: and and here they are the Cowboys and you've got
Speaker 2: dig saying, all right, I'm already looking at him. He's
Speaker 2: up at six o'clock doing the way he's doing. And
Speaker 2: then Stephan did n't. But it still reminds me of
Speaker 2: Rodney Harrison.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 2: He was checking Digs for what he was eating. He's
Speaker 2: nameling some gummy bears.
Speaker 5: Got them. When you're young, you think you can do anything.
Speaker 2: Room Rodney, Rodney Harrison and Teddy Bruski would check the
Speaker 2: young guys who brought in fast food. Oh that's a gee,
Speaker 2: that's that's that's gonna help us win. You're doing that.
Speaker 2: So having a guy who's an established veteran Super Bowl
Speaker 2: champion with a young player that you just gave a
Speaker 2: boatload of money to, who has a who has a
Speaker 2: really good career ahead of him, and digs and this
Speaker 2: guy makes him sharper. Wow.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And when I wanted Von Miller here and the Cowboys
Speaker 2: decided not to do anything going Buffalo. I saw what
Speaker 2: Miller helped do for Aaron Donald. It helps when you
Speaker 2: have a guy who's won a ring, who knows what
Speaker 2: to do. I mean, we're not looking at Stefan and
Speaker 2: just questioning anything about this guy's a baller.
Speaker 3: He's a without a doubt, a baller. He's a pros pro.
Speaker 3: He's a technician. When you talk about the cornerback position
Speaker 3: out there and what he brings to the table man
Speaker 3: the man zone, he can do it all. And if
Speaker 3: he can just pass down ten fifteen percent of that
Speaker 3: knowledge to Diggs and make him that much better, it's
Speaker 3: an investment that the Cowboys needed to make. And this guy,
Speaker 3: like you said, he's going in there already checking what
Speaker 3: this young guy's eating out there. Are you eating the
Speaker 3: right stuff? That stuff's gonna slow you down. This will
Speaker 3: put energy in your system. When you listen to a
Speaker 3: pros pro like that, you can only get better because
Speaker 3: I mean, coaches, they can tell you as much as
Speaker 3: they want to tell you, but nine times out of ten,
Speaker 3: if it ain't about you know, the footballs and ex's
Speaker 3: and o's, it's gonna go through one ear and out
Speaker 3: the other. But when you have your Peers, a guy
Speaker 3: that's a champion that's already done it has been to
Speaker 3: the highs of the highs, and you want to get
Speaker 3: your level to that level, you're gonna listen to a
Speaker 3: guy like that.
Speaker 5: And then when you talk about Cooks, what.
Speaker 3: He brings to the table offensively, I mean he can
Speaker 3: open up so much more for CD Lamb, not only
Speaker 3: about you know, the technicians as far as route running
Speaker 3: and all that stuff. But when you got a guy
Speaker 3: that can open up the top like he can right
Speaker 3: a safety I'm looking at I'm looking at Cooks like
Speaker 3: I gotta get on top of it. That leaves all
Speaker 3: that underneath intermediate area for CD Lamb.
Speaker 6: And when you get him with the ball in his hands,
Speaker 6: he can make magic happen.
Speaker 3: So to me, both of these additions are huge additions,
Speaker 3: not only for their productivity, but for the younger guys
Speaker 3: underneath them.
Speaker 5: That should be it.
Speaker 6: It should be a solid contribution to this team.
Speaker 4: You know, as you're saying now, I'm thinking of quote
Speaker 4: that Warren Buffett had and he said, you know, you
Speaker 4: see who's swimming neked when the tie goes in, right,
Speaker 4: So that's what happened to the front office last season
Speaker 4: at the wide receiver position because either overconfident, over confident
Speaker 4: in Ceedee Lamb's ability, or just gross negligence on the
Speaker 4: part of what they thought they had depth wise. Last season,
Speaker 4: your second productive receiver was Noah Brown. He also had
Speaker 4: responsibilities on special teams as well. I mean, look, obviously
Speaker 4: you couldn't have imagined that Jalen Toba would have the
Speaker 4: mental issues that he had last season, but that wide
Speaker 4: receiver group was underwhelming. Brandon Cooks come in and automatically
Speaker 4: he adds a dimension to that offense I don't think
Speaker 4: they've had in the last two years, especially since a
Speaker 4: Mari Cooper, And all I'm saying is I think that
Speaker 4: he's the piece that can add that confidence that you
Speaker 4: need to a CD Lamb when you talk about a
Speaker 4: big brother role, a guy that's going to be there
Speaker 4: for you. On the other side, Look, man, we talked
Speaker 4: all season about this defense and what you needed, especially
Speaker 4: after the twenty twenty one season that Diggs had, I
Speaker 4: mean historic eleven interceptions. On the other side, that was
Speaker 4: an opportunity for Anthony Brown. He didn't take advantage of him,
Speaker 4: all right, no interceptions last season, and that was a
Speaker 4: lot that this defense needed. And as we sit here
Speaker 4: right now, have they not made that move? Right This
Speaker 4: front office basically comes in and say, look, we have
Speaker 4: an opportunity to get a guy that's defensive player of
Speaker 4: the year, a guy that also has done what Stephan
Speaker 4: Diggs has done by setting the interception record and holding
Speaker 4: the most interceptions.
Speaker 6: He is like that.
Speaker 4: He is like that, and look, this is not going
Speaker 4: out on the limb. When I talk about him and
Speaker 4: his resume, it makes him the best cornerback on this roster.
Speaker 4: People don't want to look because of his senior to
Speaker 4: what he's done, the skins that he has on the
Speaker 4: rock on the wall.
Speaker 6: You have to give that to him.
Speaker 4: And if Diggs is willing to learn from a guy
Speaker 4: that's done all of that, think about how good he
Speaker 4: can be this season.
Speaker 5: And that's huge. Being coachable.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's just one of the things that I
Speaker 3: love about this because I mean, he could be one
Speaker 3: of those guys that can go out through I got
Speaker 3: eleven picks, I know the game, I know everything about it.
Speaker 3: I don't need your help. I'm the top dog in
Speaker 3: this secondary. But for him to go ahead and sit
Speaker 3: there and say, you know, bring in Gilmore open up
Speaker 3: to him. I'm gonna listen to what he got to
Speaker 3: say because I'm trying to get my game to defensive
Speaker 3: player of the Year type caliber. It just goes to
Speaker 3: show you the type of corner and the type of
Speaker 3: man that Diggs is. And I mean, the sky's limit
Speaker 3: with this guy. If he can go and kind of
Speaker 3: be under the wing of Gilmour out there and grow
Speaker 3: as a corner, the sky's limited.
Speaker 6: I mean, let me ask you this, bar. I mean,
Speaker 6: especially when you bring in a.
Speaker 4: Guy like Gilly, He's he's seen it all, he's done
Speaker 4: it all and you were And that's really trying to
Speaker 4: talk about what you alluded to on just his ability
Speaker 4: to play zone play man.
Speaker 5: How big is that for? Damn?
Speaker 4: When you have a piece like Stefan Gilmore that could
Speaker 4: play so multi dimensional.
Speaker 3: It's huge because when we talked about earlier, dan Quinn
Speaker 3: loving is the guys that are kind of like Swiss
Speaker 3: army knives. And when you talk about Stepan Gilmer, I
Speaker 3: know he's not gonna go inside and play nickel or
Speaker 3: go play safety, but as a corner he can do
Speaker 3: it all for You don't have to say, all right, man,
Speaker 3: this is a man guy or he's not a man guy.
Speaker 3: We gotta have a safety over the top. You ain't
Speaker 3: got to worry about that with him. Man, the man
Speaker 3: coveras are, you're gonna lock that guy down. Let me
Speaker 3: go ahead and shift my safeties on to the other side.
Speaker 3: Let me do some different things on this side, because
Speaker 3: I know you can hold it down over there. It's
Speaker 3: just gonna open up this defense so much more. And
Speaker 3: then when you have a pass rush like they do here,
Speaker 3: I mean just having eyes back on the quarterback, it's
Speaker 3: gonna create so many turnovers for this defense. I'm telling
Speaker 3: you this edition right here. To me, it was my
Speaker 3: favorite one. I mean, coachs was right there. But Gilmore
Speaker 3: being in that secondary, the things he can do with
Speaker 3: dan Quinn by his side defensively, it's gonna be huge.
Speaker 2: Gilmore is one of the few players that Bill Belichick
Speaker 2: wrote a check to get.
Speaker 6: That's true.
Speaker 2: Think about him, Darrel Reeves, Yeah, he does do it
Speaker 2: very often. He hadn't missed when he brought him in
Speaker 2: and they all got brings. So I look at Gilmour
Speaker 2: and I just say, yeah, this is good. Piggybacking on
Speaker 2: what you talked about with Cooks as well. How about
Speaker 2: the fact that now this means Gallup should be one
Speaker 2: on one end coverage.
Speaker 5: Okay, so you're healthier.
Speaker 2: So Michael Gallup, he says mentally, he's ready to go.
Speaker 2: He feels good. If Cooks has got him going down
Speaker 2: here and taking safeties away, Lamb is over here. This
Speaker 2: young man should be eating.
Speaker 3: On number three corners and he should be able to
Speaker 3: go out there and dominate those one on one matchups
Speaker 3: each and every week. And if he's not able to
Speaker 3: do that, then we got to start looking at a
Speaker 3: Gallop as a player but being one on one because
Speaker 3: there's too many options out there for defenses to say,
Speaker 3: all right, we got a double team him. Hm, let's
Speaker 3: put a pressure on him. Gallup's out there one on
Speaker 3: one against a third corner. You're talking about maybe even
Speaker 3: a rookie sometimes even the practice squad guy that they
Speaker 3: got to bring up, right, he should be able to
Speaker 3: dominate those week in and week out, and hopefully the
Speaker 3: game plan has that in there.
Speaker 4: But just talk about what numbers the expectation for Michael Gallup.
Speaker 4: Last year, Noehl Brown did five fifty five. I'm sure
Speaker 4: we all think that that Michael Gallup is capable of
Speaker 4: doing more than that. Three touchdowns for Noah Brown. I'm
Speaker 4: sure we all think that Michael Gallup can do more
Speaker 4: than that, and he should.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: That's the thing about him that I think is so maddening. Look,
Speaker 4: you know that he's been injured, he had a lot
Speaker 4: to come back from. But right now with Brandon Cook,
Speaker 4: there's no there's no reason why he shouldn't be eating,
Speaker 4: no reason at all.
Speaker 2: That's that's why I think it's okay. You really there
Speaker 2: are no excuses. This should be a very productive year.
Speaker 2: And as Dak goes through his progressions here, you know
Speaker 2: he should be he should be open. And then you
Speaker 2: start to look at what can Jake Ferguson do now
Speaker 2: if those three receivers are in a rout, Jake Ferguson
Speaker 2: is another guy who should be able to have a
Speaker 2: very productive year. And as much as Dalton Schultz brought,
Speaker 2: I can't see howl Ferguson is not able to do
Speaker 2: the same thing because they're virtually, in a lot of
Speaker 2: ways the same player. So that's another guy. If Cook,
Speaker 2: first off, Cooks Scotts stay healthy. That's always been an
Speaker 2: issue with him in his career is the health and
Speaker 2: the hamstrings and those times. But if Cooks is healthy,
Speaker 2: there are a lot of options out here for this
Speaker 2: football team. Bringing in those two guys who have played
Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl stage, who have played with really
Speaker 2: outstanding Hall of Fame talent in their careers, this this
Speaker 2: should help everyone. And if I'm Dak Prescott, I'll be
Speaker 2: interested to ask Dak when I get a chance to
Speaker 2: talk to one on one, what does he pick Cooks
Speaker 2: his brand about considering that he has played with Drew Brees,
Speaker 2: Tom Brady.
Speaker 4: But did you hear the interview yesterday with Dak when
Speaker 4: he was talking about Brandon Cooks and just saying how
Speaker 4: Brandon has taken the reins to have that relationship with him,
Speaker 4: to get that synergy with.
Speaker 6: All of the wide receivers.
Speaker 4: So that's just leadership on him, you know, guys just
Speaker 4: without ego coming into a new situation and say and look,
Speaker 4: in order for me to put my imprint on this team,
Speaker 4: I need to get with the number one guy who
Speaker 4: is that.
Speaker 5: That's Dak, And they've been.
Speaker 4: You know, on these leadership you know, going out of
Speaker 4: town together doing all those things that they need to do.
Speaker 6: Uh. As a team.
Speaker 4: But I think he's a wealth of knowledge, especially playing
Speaker 4: for Bill Belichick. When you talk about I mean, you
Speaker 4: just brought up an absolute great point when we were
Speaker 4: talking about Stephan Gilmore and in Belichick. I mean, you
Speaker 4: think about Belichick for all those years, all the guys
Speaker 4: that he's had, the lawyer my lawyers of the world
Speaker 4: that he's let go exactly, you know, so that is
Speaker 4: that tells you what a guy like that thinks about him.
Speaker 6: So I just thought that was a great point.
Speaker 5: I just said, let that go.
Speaker 2: We want you. We're about to here, come back because
Speaker 2: you can do these things that I need. And as
Speaker 2: you talked about here, you're you're a guy like Dan
Speaker 2: quit the pits. Okay, he's here. I have to worry
Speaker 2: about it in a passing league. In a passing league.
Speaker 2: So I'm a big fan of the additions here and
Speaker 2: go back to what we talked about to start to
Speaker 2: show in the position battles. If you can get the
Speaker 2: defensive tackle spots straight, if you can make it second
Speaker 2: and nine for guys or second and.
Speaker 5: Ten, yeah, you're gonna get the best version of man.
Speaker 2: You know what. You know, folks eating this would be
Speaker 2: eating back there. They used to have Thurman themes back
Speaker 2: in the seventies and eighties around here, you could have
Speaker 2: you could have that kind of defensive backfield. Where Ever
Speaker 2: since walls back there, Yeah, man, So Dennis Thurman and
Speaker 2: the rest of the DBS were able to eat because
Speaker 2: what the Cowboys have had a guy like Randy White
Speaker 2: up front, You had Harvey Mark, you had great Heart,
Speaker 2: you know, the beautiful you know had you had guys
Speaker 2: getting to the quarterback. And so if you've got that,
Speaker 2: then then you can can do on the other side.
Speaker 2: And look in this division here, you're gonna have to
Speaker 2: stop the run. And you know these other teams here
Speaker 2: they've got they they've got some good front lines too,
Speaker 2: So you're gonna have to match match these other folks.
Speaker 6: Out here to get back to the receivers real quick.
Speaker 3: Do you think a guy like Cooks can bring along,
Speaker 3: you know, the semi Forojokos of the world, the Jalen Tobarts,
Speaker 3: and can help them step up their game a little
Speaker 3: bit and realize maybe it's not all offense.
Speaker 5: Maybe you got to do cut your teeth somehow on
Speaker 5: the special teams. That's how Cooks started out in the league.
Speaker 6: I mean returner doing that special team stuff.
Speaker 3: Do you think he can kind of tap in and
Speaker 3: getting to those young guys head a little.
Speaker 5: If they smart they just follow his moves.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know sometimes you just Hey, the recipe for
Speaker 4: success is just following somebody that's.
Speaker 5: Been successful doing That's why I'm following you.
Speaker 4: So I'm just saying, you know, there's no situation like
Speaker 4: that where I think that you're absolutely right. I believe
Speaker 4: that he can, and I don't see any reason why
Speaker 4: a guy likes Simi for Hoko.
Speaker 5: That and Jalen Tobert.
Speaker 4: You want so bad for these guys to flourish and
Speaker 4: come into their own because they semi for Hoko was
Speaker 4: definitely not the thought of as a.
Speaker 6: Special team guy.
Speaker 4: He put his best foot forward and made the roster
Speaker 4: like that, Jalen Tober, that's his only way. It's to
Speaker 4: be with with bones fossil. You know, he has to
Speaker 4: find his way onto special teams. But at the same time,
Speaker 4: this that may not have been the way that he
Speaker 4: envisioned himself when his NFL dreams started. Right now, that's
Speaker 4: where he is.
Speaker 5: We gotta be.
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Speaker 2: Is it coming to me, you know, suggesting?
Speaker 5: I see it like that.
Speaker 2: You go stand up where you go, you know, I
Speaker 2: mean you may want to room with Kelvin Johnson. Figure
Speaker 2: that thing out.
Speaker 4: True, But we are one injury away from those guys
Speaker 4: that we're talking about being you know, a starter.
Speaker 2: In the seventeen game season. Yes, the Jacksonville game all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you know it was the Green Bay game. Man,
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Speaker 4: finished it. Guys like we don't remember, Like I think
Speaker 4: you bring that up. As far as the roster, Xavier
Speaker 4: Roads was on the roster for a playoff game, you know,
Speaker 4: thirty one. Yeah, I mean people forget about that. I
Speaker 4: mean that depth is so important. So I guess we're
Speaker 4: talking about Jayalen Toba in the right terms because you know.
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Speaker 2: They're going to need you. I go back to Mike
Speaker 2: McCarthy's Super Bowl team, and that thing was filled with injuries.
Speaker 2: I mean they had a great run game with Ryan
Speaker 2: Grahm and he got hurt. Early in the year and
Speaker 2: James starts here at the end. You had Woodson who
Speaker 2: got hurt during the game, and then you had Donald
Speaker 2: Driver got hurt during that game as well, So you
Speaker 2: know you you're going to need all your pieces to
Speaker 2: get this thing down. And to Mike's credit, he talks
Speaker 2: about that all the time. Hey, we we needed everybody
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Speaker 2: Sir, Harrison's very Church with resoarch Danny McCrae is on
Speaker 2: assignment getting some work done with the Cowboys organization. He
Speaker 2: will join us next week. I will be out in Auctionar,
Speaker 2: California next week. Sean Payton, former play calling here with
Speaker 2: the Cowboys under Bill Parcells, sat out last year, ye
Speaker 2: left the Saints, sat out. Now he's back. He's with
Speaker 2: the Denver Broncos. And Sean Payton told the truth about
Speaker 2: Nathaniel Hackett and that coaching staff. They got fired in
Speaker 2: season in Denver. So what worst coaching dab they ever seen?
Speaker 2: It was we were up there. We were up there
Speaker 2: for a scrimmish last year, and I told my boys
Speaker 2: over the Altitude radio and there was like, man, I
Speaker 2: don't think this your your coach.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 2: I ain't sold on him, Mike. He didn't call any
Speaker 2: plays in Green Bay. Last time he was collin plays.
Speaker 2: He was in Jacksonville.
Speaker 5: You man, I was there.
Speaker 6: We went to the championship.
Speaker 2: How'd you look?
Speaker 5: Ran no points in the second hand.
Speaker 2: And you know I covered his dad when he's the
Speaker 2: head coach at USC. It was tragic. Then Pete Carroll
Speaker 2: came back, Thy good luck, guys, and it was terrible.
Speaker 2: It was absolutely terrible, and Sean Peyton came out said
Speaker 2: it was terrible. Basically, we're not doing anything they did
Speaker 2: last year. And I thought Sean and telling the truth,
Speaker 2: also did something pretty clever. He put it on himself.
Speaker 2: Don't talk about that. They were they had bad coaching.
Speaker 2: I'm a good coach, so now guess what he has
Speaker 2: to be a good coach. There you go.
Speaker 6: I like it.
Speaker 5: I like it.
Speaker 6: Well, I thought you were petty.
Speaker 4: That was Come on, man, he did I mean Nathaniel hacked.
Speaker 6: What happened to the coaching? Uh?
Speaker 5: Brotherhood?
Speaker 6: And I mean you talk about a throw a man
Speaker 6: under the bus kind of deal. Come on the act.
Speaker 5: I mean he didn't hit the break at all all
Speaker 5: gas and I thought.
Speaker 2: You too young to remember this. And with third base
Speaker 2: came up with pop goos the weeds look attack with
Speaker 2: their life. That's what that was. But why I feel
Speaker 2: the need to was the was the question asked?
Speaker 6: Was it like, you know, hey, what you think about?
Speaker 6: He went out of his way? That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And another thing I have to understand. The master interviewer
Speaker 2: had him Jared Bell. Yeah, you know, Jar, make you feel.
Speaker 5: Comfortable with you know, like we boys talking.
Speaker 2: Even told everything, this was a terrible coaching job. Like, man,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And next thing, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean watching Jared when he comes to town and
Speaker 2: he gets Jerry. You know, we're all the next thing,
Speaker 2: you know, it's Jared over there with Jerry. Did they
Speaker 2: just one on one? And next thing, you know, he
Speaker 2: gonna write something. He got all that, she's master and
Speaker 2: he got it from she got all that from Sean.
Speaker 2: But our guy, Russell Wilson, let's ride, Broncos country, Let's ride.
Speaker 2: He's taking the pressure offical Russell had coach. This is
Speaker 2: smart on Sean's part to go ahead and and and
Speaker 2: do what he did.
Speaker 5: I mean, Russell was bad last year. Yes, I'm not
Speaker 5: saying I think he'll.
Speaker 6: Have a way better year this year. He was bad
Speaker 6: that last year.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: Overall, I never see and the Broncos are proud organization.
Speaker 2: Remember how bad it was with Nolan. Well, imagine that
Speaker 2: on both sides, whole organization in Denver. Man who fires
Speaker 2: a first year coach in the season and they new owners.
Speaker 2: That's how bad it was. Man, it was. It was horrible.
Speaker 6: He could have took the high ro he could have
Speaker 6: We're focusing on this year.
Speaker 5: That's about what I'm doing with the Bronco exactly.
Speaker 4: That knew it, but everybody knows it was a train
Speaker 4: wreck last season. And there's no way to defend even
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson's play last season as a veteran man. It
Speaker 4: was bad all across the board. But man, what Seanpagne did.
Speaker 4: I thought, Look, it's bold. He said it with his chest.
Speaker 4: But he threw that man under the bus pocket and hey,
Speaker 4: I just hope, Hey, you know, be careful.
Speaker 2: What just say sometimes be okay, he go, I would
Speaker 2: have get hunted meal okay, went out there and he
Speaker 2: talked about, you know, the Jets like the Jets. That's
Speaker 2: another thing, like you could have left it at Hacket
Speaker 2: in his situation. And he wasn't a good that man
Speaker 2: said the Jets got the dream team. I'm like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, it's a dream Towever, they ain't do anything.
Speaker 2: He was correct, we don't want to win the office.
Speaker 2: By the way, I was Vince Young who called it
Speaker 2: the dreams. Little Vince, He's right.
Speaker 5: They played me five.
Speaker 2: He didn't lie. Sean Payton didn't lie.
Speaker 3: He didn't The Hacket wasn't bad. He didn't do a
Speaker 3: great job out there. But he also you know, didn't
Speaker 3: say nothing about Russell throwing garbage.
Speaker 2: He's trying trying to protect it. Jets on hard getting
Speaker 2: all this pub here, what happens. And we've seen this
Speaker 2: time and time to get in this league. You you
Speaker 2: start getting all this pub and all this talking. Talk
Speaker 2: doesn't win football games. It doesn't win.
Speaker 4: And I think it's completely different for the Jets, man,
Speaker 4: especially when you look at that defense. I mean they
Speaker 4: got come on, now, that is an official defense that
Speaker 4: they have over there. Offensively, that was the only piece
Speaker 4: that they needed was the quarterback. We knew how, we
Speaker 4: know how vital having a set solidly.
Speaker 2: Winning that division.
Speaker 6: I mean, why you're throwing me on the there you got,
Speaker 6: you got, you got Miami.
Speaker 5: I got Miami winning that thing.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 5: I would say Buffalo, man, I would say Buffalo too.
Speaker 2: Okay, So all this all, let's we got wild cards
Speaker 2: right all this height while we're talking wild cards.
Speaker 5: But Lebronco's gonna do anything that ship.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm sorry. A lot of these Kansas
Speaker 2: City is in that division.
Speaker 5: That's true, playing for number two and.
Speaker 2: People be happy about it. So you know I probably
Speaker 2: did wild card over your boys, Chargers.
Speaker 6: You like you?
Speaker 2: Who's playing a second?
Speaker 5: You like that, I'll tell you do it like that
Speaker 5: kind of stuff? But more are y'all sleeping on I
Speaker 5: see what he was able to sleep on him?
Speaker 6: He was here? But what do you mean? We we
Speaker 6: got a birth.
Speaker 2: Everybody's about throwing under the bus. Everybody and their mom
Speaker 2: threw k under the bus or the Chargers? Who would
Speaker 2: you take to finish the second behind? Can't city right now?
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm gonna have to go with the charge. I'm
Speaker 5: about to say that, ain't.
Speaker 6: Even I'm gonna have to.
Speaker 2: Shpage that, ain't question thee after what the Broncos did
Speaker 2: last season.
Speaker 4: I just and you you you put me on the spot.
Speaker 4: I'm definitely Charger.
Speaker 2: Let's put a Smoothie King shake on it.
Speaker 5: Sure ain't putting dinner on it.
Speaker 6: Right now.
Speaker 2: That's write this down.
Speaker 5: And my boy got his money thought he's he's good.
Speaker 6: You know what he might think, I'll loop.
Speaker 2: I would loop Dave craying to him. So there we
Speaker 2: got we got our first, We got our twenty twenty three.
Speaker 5: That's the first one.
Speaker 2: That's the who finishes who? Who's who? Finishes better. The
Speaker 2: Denver Broncos were the Chargers. You guys a division?
Speaker 5: Oh wow?
Speaker 6: They winning in division? Okay, simple as that.
Speaker 2: Get on a Friday year start, I think you three
Speaker 2: and one against against uh, what's his name over there?
Speaker 6: In case Pat Mahomes and he's like two, two and one,
Speaker 6: three and one against. It's a rat.
Speaker 2: They win in the division, Okay, they win. Heck Maharrison,
Speaker 2: I knew number one offense. This is players louds. We'll
Speaker 2: talk to you past three years. Don't let me down, okay,
Speaker 2: don't let me down.
Speaker 6: Man.
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