WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: Eliminators 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:05.400 Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind production of I 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:15.600 Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is 0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:18.840 Rob Lamb and this is Joe McCormick. And today we're 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:21.079 getting the team back together. Or I guess we're not 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:23.680 getting the team back together because they were never together before. 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:26.160 So we're getting the team together in the first place, 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:30.040 because Rob, is this our first example of a a 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:34.199 turbo team or dream team style movie of the of 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:37.240 the genre where you have a specialist of several different 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:40.920 kinds and they combine forces to go on a mission together. 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:44.000 It might be it's a It's one of these genres 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:46.680 that I think is easy to take for granted because 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:51.640 it's such a core aspect of the Marvel cinematic universe, 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:55.200 from the Avengers to Guardians of the Galaxy. It's also 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:58.240 a key part of our sort of role playing Dungeons 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:01.560 and Dragons sense of adventure. You have a diverse group 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:04.720 that's brought together. Everybody has their own skill set. Uh, 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:08.680 they come from different backgrounds, different species even, and you 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:10.680 know a lot of that's probably based on the sort 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:14.000 of blueprint provided by the Fellowship of the Ring. Ah. Yes, 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:17.280 so you have a warrior king and a wizard and 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:20.280 an elf archer and uh, well, I don't know. I 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:22.880 guess a lot of what the various parties in The 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:26.240 Fellowship do is is basically fight in one way or another. 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:28.920 But that's also true of some of these dream team 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:31.479 turbo team type movies. There are people who just fight 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:34.920 with different Uh I don't know, weapons or specialties. You'll 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:38.600 have like an explosives expert or somebody who has a sword. 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:42.440 Oh yeah, good heist movie, right well, or even more 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:46.360 to the point, a terrible heist movie will will inevitably 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:48.640 have this, uh this as part of the plot. You 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:50.800 gotta bring it, you gotta have your safe cracking dude, 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:53.320 you gotta have your heavy weapons dude for some reason, 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:56.960 and so forth. It's a proven formula. Why question it. 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:59.840 So what is the specific movie we're looking at to 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:05.360 a It is a nineteen eighty six film called Eliminators. Yeah, 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:08.160 we're going back to six with this one, a banner 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:11.640 year for genre films, and we're also going back to 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:15.800 the filmographies of Peter Manougian and producer Charles band. I 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:18.760 could be wrong, but I think Manougian is the first 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:21.520 director we've come back to for a second film on 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:25.600 Weirdout Cinema, though certainly we've covered multiple films produced by 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:29.040 such names as Charles Band, Roger Corman, et cetera. And 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:31.960 of course we've come back to different films featuring some 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:35.880 of the same actors. Oh yeah, Arena. Manugian did Arena 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:40.400 the the space alien boxing movie. I don't know what 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.160 you've yet monster m m A where it had like 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:46.280 a human fighter getting into punching matches with giant squid 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:49.520 and stuff. Uh, that was a fun one, and I'm 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:52.200 gonna I'm gonna go right ahead and say there is 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:56.519 no contest whatsoever. Arena was a better movie than Eliminators, 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.760 though you can see the connective stissue. You can see 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:02.760 some of this, some some more themes. You know, they're 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:09.359 both films feature cyborgs, and both films feature star trek actors. Uh, 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.239 so they have a lot in common. Now, for those 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:14.080 of you out there who are on the edge of 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:17.079 your seats wondering, I know, I know, I know, But 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:22.120 will there be boats in this movie? You can rest assured. Uh. 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:24.400 And and if you don't believe me, you can consult 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:27.240 one of the nine stills from the film included on 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:30.160 the back cover of the VHS box. Uh, there is 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:34.239 photographic guarantee there will be gratuitous watercraft in this movie. 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:36.320 That's right, Yeah, there there are a lot of boats 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:39.920 in this film. Oh so many boats. About fifteen minutes 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:43.000 in I started getting the feeling that this is going 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:45.800 to be one of those movies where the title actually 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:48.360 doesn't feature in the movie at all. And what do 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:51.480 you know, my fears were well founded. In fact, the 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:55.680 team of eliminators in this movie are never called eliminators 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:59.800 by anyone. They never refer to themselves as eliminators. None 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:02.840 of what they're doing could really all that easily be 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:05.480 described as eliminating. I guess they're sort of on a 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:08.520 mission against a guy. Maybe they're trying to eliminate his 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:11.960 evil doings. But overall, I would just say that the 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.840 title of this movie is a more or less random word, 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:17.159 and if you were to go by primary themes, a 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:20.599 more appropriate title for this film would have been either Mann, 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:26.839 droid or boats. Yes. Um, Now, if if you want 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:30.040 an elevator, pitch that that sells you on the elimination 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:33.000 aspect of this picture. Uh, really, the back of the 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:35.760 VHS box does it? Because this is what it says 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:40.480 in a hidden fortress concealed by impenetrable jungle dwells, dr 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:43.840 Abbott Reeves a brilliant but devious scientist who has the 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:47.680 power to create and the will to destroy. He must 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:51.919 be eliminated. There you go. And who is going to 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.400 do this eliminating? Well, it's obviously going to take a 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:57.719 team off eliminateurs, I guess so. Oh. And the the 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:00.120 poster or the front cover of the VHS tells you 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:04.160 exactly who's doing the eliminating, because it says there's a 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:09.839 period between all these words man, droid, mercenary, scientist, ninja, 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:16.400 each one a specialist. Together they are eliminators. Yes, I 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:19.160 have I have a framed copy of this poster. By 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:21.640 the way, it is a beautiful poster. And I remember 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:24.680 seeing the VHS box art and I remember thinking it 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:28.520 looked amazing like this. This encapsulates everything I wanted to see, 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:32.039 uh in the the eighties and nineties, you know, But 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:34.920 somehow I didn't which And I have no idea how 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:37.840 I avoided actually watching this movie renting in at some point. 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:40.480 Maybe maybe there was something about it. It seems slightly 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:42.560 too grown up for me as a child, like Oh 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:44.560 that looks cool, but I don't know, I dare not 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:47.880 though ultimately it's a pretty pretty harmless film for the 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:52.200 most part. Yeah, it is rated p g Uh would 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:55.080 you say that it has mature themes but not adult 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:57.320 themes or the other way around? Actually, I guess i'd 0:05:57.320 --> 0:06:00.240 say it has neither. Well, I mean, there's a Erica 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:04.840 who steals a smooch um. There are a lot of 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:09.440 badly behaving characters. Yeah, has Also there's a lot of boats. 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:12.800 I don't know, ready to b for boat, I guess. 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:16.000 But yeah, but this poster is brilliant because mainly, yeah, 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:17.919 there's some people in the background with some guns and 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:21.000 some knives. There's a tiny floating robot that you can 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:24.599 barely see, but mainly the man droid center stage. It's 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:28.880 this brilliant, just glistening uh, you know, clearly half human 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:32.560 half machine. And then also he's like a tank centaur, 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:36.240 like his lower half appears to just be like tank treads. 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:40.160 It's it's beautiful, beautiful to behold. I also like imagining 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:43.320 the design conversation that went into the back cover of 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:46.360 the VHS, because it's like, Okay, which of these stills 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:49.320 from the movie should we include over the synopsis and 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:53.719 the answer is all what all nine? All nine go 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:57.719 on their grid of nine? Well, they did choose to 0:06:57.800 --> 0:06:59.280 go with the one they spent the most money on, 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:02.760 I guess in terms of effects and costuming. Now, if 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:04.440 if we were to give of a I guess a 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:08.839 more specific elevator pitch, I would say it goes as follows. 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:13.880 A roboticist, a robot, a cyborg, a martial artist, and 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:16.920 a low life river rat must join forces to take 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:20.520 on a time traveling mad scientists intent on conquering ancient 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.000 Rome with a suit of power armor and a death 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:25.640 ray with the help of a couple of tough guys 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:27.920 in a boat. Oh yeah, did we even mention that 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:33.080 this involves time travel yet? And it is? Uh? Oh boy, 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:34.480 this is quite a time travel if you want to. 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:36.640 If you want a time travel movie that makes transfers 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:40.280 to feel like primer, then The Eliminators is here for you. 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:43.640 The time travel is almost kind of an afterthought in it. 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:47.000 Like usually with the time travel movie, what your main 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:50.560 characters are doing is time travel, but instead the time 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:53.280 travel is just sort of a uh an intro and 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:56.000 an outro. Here, it's the beginning premise and then the 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:58.760 very code of the film. But the real travel that 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:00.720 goes on in this movie, at least the hero's point 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:05.360 of view is mostly is mostly by boat. It's basically 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:10.280 a higher speed Heart of Darkness with time travel. Well, 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:13.000 on that note, let's go ahead and have have the trailer. 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:14.760 Let's just go ahead and listen to the entire trailer 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:20.160 because the audio is pretty tremendous in this in a 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:25.440 hidden fortress concealed by impenetrable jungle dwells, dr Abbott Reeves 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:29.040 a brilliant but devious scientist with a power to create 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:34.520 help the mandroid from the cage Dakota any malfunctions. I 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:37.800 had some trouble with this. It feels like a delay 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:42.040 in the neurosenece trigger and the will to destroy memory. 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:47.000 Then just mentally it's half human. He must be eliminated. 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:51.920 Colonel Norah Hunter has the brains to mastermind the operation. 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:55.719 We need a full time mechanic. My friend Fontana the 0:08:55.920 --> 0:09:03.160 river ran so there's in a movie one when he 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:06.559 finds himself in a tight spot, someone else has to 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:13.880 pick up the pieces. Fucci the Ninja. He has the 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:24.480 martial skills to destroy his enemies the mandroid, more machine 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:28.880 than man. His special powers will determine whether or not 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:33.160 they survived. We got robots, we got cave Man, we 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:37.599 got Kung Fu. What is this anyway? Some kind of 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:41.240 damn comic book. It is the most perilous journey any 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:48.960 one of them has undertaken, and once they reached their destination, 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:53.360 they face the most awesome power on earth. You don't understand. 0:09:54.160 --> 0:10:08.920 Soon I shall rule the world. M It will take 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:12.520 all their combined skills to defeat him. Each one is 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:22.800 the ultimate specialist in his field. Together they are the eliminators. 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:30.360 I haven't checked out this trailer yet, but I got 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:33.319 to imagine it's pretty enticing because this is, like many 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:35.800 of the movies we talked about on the show, clearly 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:39.920 a marketing first, kind of kind of creative project. I 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:42.880 had the poster for this movie before I ever saw 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:44.800 the movie. In fact, that the poster was a gift 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:47.319 from a friend, but I understand why he gave it 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:52.120 to me. It is a it It encapsulates so much feeling. 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:55.920 It's got the feeling of these movies from that there. 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:58.160 It's not like a coherent genre, but it's like a 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:01.199 vibe of eighties movies. That includes other ones we've talked 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:04.679 about like metal Storm, The Destruction of Jared Sin. This 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:07.480 this isn't that kind of bucket and has those kind 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:10.839 of feelings coursing through its arteries. Well you know, it 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:13.120 is produced by by Charles Band. It is an Empire 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:16.680 International picture. And speaking of I'm now remembering, of course, 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:19.480 Charles Band was our first director that we came back 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:22.920 to for second helping. Uh because he did he did 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:26.640 both Transfers to and metal Storm, The Destruction of Jared Sin. 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:31.240 So my apologies to Sir Charles Band on that one. 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:35.240 But uh yeah, let's this is This is an Empire 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:39.400 International picture. It is a born out of Charles Band's Empire, 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:42.760 as was the director Peter manougi in Um. We talked 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:47.240 about Peter manouge In previously on the Arena episode uh 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:52.480 Born nine. He directed a segment in their second feature, 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:55.880 Empire International second feature, the anthology film The Dungeon Master. 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:59.400 That was his first directional credit, following work as an 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:02.880 assistant actor on a string of Band directed films, as 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:06.319 well as Galaxy of Terror, and he was a production 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:09.520 manager on several other films, including Humanoids from the Deep 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:13.360 and a lovely little thriller that they filmed on on 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:18.160 Tybee Island in Georgia, The Slayer. Are you joking with Lovely? 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:21.920 This one always looked gross. Um, it's mostly lovely. Like 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.160 it's it's a better film than you then you would 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:27.320 think that The Slayer, Um, the monster that is prominently 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:29.959 featured on some of the material barely shows up like 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:32.240 shows up right at the end. It's is mostly an 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:36.400 attempt to to do a kind of like psychological horror picture. 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:38.800 And I don't know if you have any connection to 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.000 Tybee Island, have you ever been there? Then maybe maybe 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:44.439 that that helps grease the wheels a little bit. Manougian 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:50.840 directed a string of Empire International pictures, uh including uh Arena, 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:53.720 which we already have covered on the show the eliminating 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:56.679 or eliminators rather not be eliminators that we're talking about here, 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:59.600 and then he would transfer into the full moon era 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:04.120 of the Charles Band Empire as well with Seed People. 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:08.079 Uh so, uh yeah, definitely definitely a Charles Band guy 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:10.599 at this Manugian and the same can can definitely be 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:13.319 said for the writers on this film. Danny Bilson born 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:17.079 nineteen fifty six and Paul DeMeo, who lived nineteen fifty 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.800 three through two thousand and eighteen. Uh. These two got 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.600 their start very mention the Charles band camp with such 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:28.800 pictures as Transfers. Um. Also they did eighty nine Arena 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:31.920 and the They later got into video game writing and 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:36.480 recently um they wrote the screenplay for twenties to five Bloods, 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:40.440 directed by Spike Lee, which was released after Demo's death. 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:44.960 Oh wow, that's really upward dark. Yeah yeah, so interesting 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:47.680 assent there. Uh. You know, you may start out doing 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:51.439 monsters and uh and cyborgs, but who knows, who knows 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:54.280 where your career will take you. So familiar cast of 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:57.679 of behind the scenes characters there. Let's get into the 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:00.360 actors on this baby, because this is it's a pretty 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:03.439 pretty fun group that they put together. Well, Rob, I 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:05.199 know this is not the order you had it in, 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:07.559 but I feel like there's we have an obligation to 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:13.040 begin with our man droid. Yes, before before I even 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:14.800 talk about who plays the man and right, I also 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:17.240 have to point out something that they kept bugging me 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:18.840 a little bit while watching it, as they call him 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:23.600 a mandroid, but android already means mandroid, Like that's the 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:28.560 man of man Uh, so it's kind of pointless to 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:30.680 change it to mandroid or if you were to change 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:33.480 it even more and make it human roid, I don't know. Well, 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:36.680 I mean, I think it's very confusing because so android 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:38.600 means in the form of a man. But I think 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:42.440 then I think because android was used in like science 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:44.800 fiction to refer to robots that are in the form 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:47.560 of a man, then it just got shortened to like 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:51.400 droids in Star Wars, and then people just started thinking 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:54.800 droid mint robot. But really it means like it's a 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:57.880 shortening of the word meaning form of a man. So 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.320 then you have to add man back on to it 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:03.320 in order to say, oh, but this this droid is 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:07.720 like a man. It's part man's that's a It's a 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:11.680 beautiful circular etymology. At any rate, our our man droid 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:15.440 in this picture is played well, I mean, he's mostly human. 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:20.120 The human part is played by Patrick Reynolds Born And 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:22.640 you know, you'd be forgiven for not being all that 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:25.320 up on the acting career of Patrick Reynolds. This is 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:28.320 probably his most prominent role, though he pops up in 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:31.720 mostly small roles and some uncredited roles on various films 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:35.600 and TV shows. Prior to this, including Robert Altman's Nashville 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:40.480 Hair Airplane, Pumping Iron, and Zanna Do Wait, who is 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:43.840 he in Pumping Iron? I think he's just himself uncredited. 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:46.960 I haven't seen Pumping Iron, but maybe he's standing in 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:49.240 the background in a gym or something like. That's the 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:52.800 sort of caliber of roles he often had, I think earlier, 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:55.200 or you know, for much of his career. He's just 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:57.400 kind of he's just kind of hanging out. I mean, 0:15:57.680 --> 0:15:59.880 is he is he pumping? Is he like in the 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:03.320 the gym with Arnold Schwarzenegger feeling the pump? I mean, 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:06.640 maybe he's He doesn't seem like super beefy in this film, 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:08.920 but he seems pretty cut, like he seems like like 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:13.600 maybe he he frequented the gym's. So the interesting thing 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:15.840 here though about Patrick Reynolds is that he is the 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:19.440 grandson of R. J. Reynolds, who lived eighteen fifty through 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:23.720 nineteen nineteen, the founder of the R. J. Reynolds Tobacco Company. Now, 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:26.560 Patrick Reynolds was himself a smoker for many years, but 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.360 he quit in ninety five, and he became a prominent 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:32.320 anti smoking activists around the same time and founded the 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:36.280 Foundation for a Smoke Free America. Uh so it really 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:40.000 ultimately most notable as an anti smoking activist who was 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:43.200 also once a mandroid. Yeah, when I google him, he 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:45.600 comes up as an anti smoking guy, and then it's 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:47.880 got a little section of his Wikipedia page where it's 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:49.880 like he was also in some movies where he played 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:54.560 like a robot. Well, this is it, and you know 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:58.040 it's uh, it's it's been pretty influential. There's a movie 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:00.120 that I did see when it came out in an 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:04.480 eleven from Steven Kostanski. It's kind of a sci fi 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:07.360 sort of a comedy, kind of like a dry comedy. 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:11.160 It's called Manborg h And it has a character that's very, 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:15.160 you know, very clearly inspired by Mandroid. Well, throughout this movie, 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:17.920 I kept mixing up the words man, droid and man borg, 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:20.320 probably because of the existence of that movie, which I 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:23.840 don't think I've ever seen. But yeah, he's he's a borg, 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:27.240 he's a man, he's a droid, he's annoyed, he's all 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:29.280 of the above. All Right, who do you want next, 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.240 Joe Pick pick a member of our adventuring crew. Well, 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:33.800 I feel like after that we got to pick our 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:36.440 other main hero which has got to be Denise Crosby 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:42.280 playing Colonel Norah Hunter. Right. Yes, Denise Crosby born ninety seven, 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:45.840 best known to Trek fans as Tasha Yare on the 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:48.800 first season of Star Trek the Next Generation. I think 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:52.640 she gets killed by a like sentient puddle of mud. Yeah, 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.840 some sort of black ooze. Right. Uh so she she 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:58.440 ends up dying, but then she ends up coming back 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:01.680 playing a character named Celia I think or Sella. I 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:04.880 don't remember this character, but this is um This would 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:10.160 be Tasha Yar's half Romulan daughter, possibly from an alternate timeline. 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:13.160 I'm not not certain on that she also plays the mother, 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:17.880 though in the original movie version of Pet Cemetery she does. Yes, 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:20.920 I also have to This is an admission I have 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:24.240 to make. I've been working much of my life under 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:27.600 the assumption that she was rock legend David Crosby's daughter, 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:31.120 but she is not. She's not related to David Crosby 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:34.440 at all. Her father was Dennis Crosby, son of Croon 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:38.560 or Bing Crosby. So, uh you know, so somehow I 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:41.959 kind of switched that around. I'm like, okay, famous music family. Uh, 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:44.399 let's let's switch it over to David Crosby instead, and 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:45.919 like to the point where I would look at her 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:47.879 and I would be like, yeah, you can see the resemblance. 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:49.920 You can see the David Crosby a little bit. Just 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:54.120 imagine her doing a duet with the son of Steven Stills. Yeah. 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:59.200 But hey, already famous families are coming together to make eliminators. 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:03.200 I like it. Um. Now it's worth pointing out that 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:05.680 Denise Crosby here has been in a lot of TV, 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:10.000 including the likes of Madmen, Red Shoe Diaries, The X Files. 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:13.439 Do you remember her on X Files? Huh? I did 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:16.440 watch X Files. I don't remember what she was on their. Well, 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:20.840 she showed up, she was on she was on The Magicians, 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:24.000 and she's still active today. Um. In this she plays 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:28.240 a very serious and attractive cyborg scientist. Um. And you know, 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:30.040 it's kind of a I feel like it's also kind 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:33.880 of a genre deluded version of Kathleen Turner's Joan Wilder 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:36.919 character in Romancing the Stone. But you know, she does 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:38.680 a good job with what she's given here. Well. I 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:42.000 like about her character that she has random expertise in 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:46.760 like everything. So she is she's a colonel, but she's 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:50.879 also a scientist and a roboticist who invince robots that 0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:53.680 go to other planets. But then at other points in 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:55.959 the movie we also find out that she's an expert 0:19:56.040 --> 0:20:00.199 in boat repair, Roman history because she like can can 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:04.239 read site read Latin and oh and when and then uh, 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:06.680 well spoiler, we're gonna have to talk about this later. 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:09.840 There there happened to be some Neanderthals who time travel 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:12.480 in this movie, and when she sees them, she's just like, 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:15.760 they look like Neanderthals, And I'm like, how would anyone 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:18.719 today know that? But this is a scientist syndrome from 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:20.480 one of these eighties action movies. You just have a 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:24.240 scientist and they don't just have expertise in their subject 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:27.639 area because they're a scientist. They're just general purpose smart 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:30.720 person and they know everything. Well. It's very Dungeons and 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:33.280 Dragons in that respect, right, it's just do an intelligence 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:37.480 check and then she nails it, natural love it, or 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:40.720 maybe it's just indicative of I don't know, whatever educational 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:43.880 path she was on and gave more well rounded education. 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:46.440 You know, you don't just get your subject area, you 0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:48.560 also get a little bit of everything. You get. You 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:51.240 get the humanities you you can site read Latin. You 0:20:51.359 --> 0:21:03.600 know what a neandertal looks like. For some reason, All right, 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:05.399 who do you want next? You want our rogue or 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:08.200 do you want our warrior class? Oh? God, well, which 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:10.120 is which? No? I know which is which? At least 0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:12.040 from a moral point of view, we gotta go rogue 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:15.320 because I think we're going in recruiting order, right, So 0:21:15.480 --> 0:21:18.400 we start with man droid, and then we go to scientists. 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:21.760 That's Dennise Crosby, Colonel Nora Hunter, and then we go 0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:23.960 to rogue. But in this case it's a it's a 0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:27.159 special breed of rogue. It's a water rogue, that's right. 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:32.920 The character Harry Fontana, played by Andrew Prine born six 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:36.760 Prian is an American actor who was it seemed to 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:41.200 have been active from nineteen so pretty long career. There 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:44.159 a lot of work TV work in the sixties, a 0:21:44.200 --> 0:21:47.399 lot of Westerns naturally, and in nineteen seventy one he 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:51.000 started in as the title character in Simon King of 0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:55.000 the Witches, a movie about hippies and warlocks that was 0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:59.840 kind of deceptively promoted at the time as a satanic shocker. 0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:02.720 In the wake of the Manson murders. Yeah, I've never 0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:05.040 seen that one. Yeah, it's it's said to be a 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:08.399 far tamer film than the marketing would have had people believe. 0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:11.520 But it's still weird, still has a following, and I'm 0:22:11.600 --> 0:22:13.639 to believe it's one of the reasons that Rob Zombie 0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:17.240 cast him in The Lords of Salem in twelve. You know, 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:19.680 he brought in a lotta movie, Yeah, a lot of 0:22:19.880 --> 0:22:21.680 brought a lot of people in from which movies and 0:22:21.880 --> 0:22:24.920 uh uh put together quite a cast. Now, the rest 0:22:24.960 --> 0:22:27.240 of Primes filmography is kind of all over the place. 0:22:27.320 --> 0:22:30.800 He he pops up in Gettysburg in nineteen sixty two, 0:22:30.880 --> 0:22:34.800 is the miracle worker. You know, both mainstream, largely well 0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:37.879 regarded films of their time. But he was also in 0:22:38.000 --> 0:22:40.640 Charles B. Pierce's nineteen seventy six slash of the Town 0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:43.639 That Dreaded Sundown, as well as the nineteen seventy three 0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:46.320 Spanish horror film Hannah, Queen of the Vampires a k. 0:22:46.760 --> 0:22:49.160 Crypt of the Living Dead. Now, The Town That Dreaded 0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:52.000 Sundown in case that went by anybody out there, That 0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:54.560 was by the same writer and director as the Boggy 0:22:54.680 --> 0:22:57.440 Creek movies, one of which we've covered on the show 0:22:57.520 --> 0:23:00.359 before I've seen it. I'm not a fan of the 0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:02.800 Town That Drifted Sundown. I think it's kind of a bummer. 0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:08.120 M well. He. He also appeared in Alan Rudolph's film 0:23:08.240 --> 0:23:12.320