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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind production of I

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is

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Speaker 1: Rob Lamb and this is Joe McCormick. And today we're

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Speaker 1: getting the team back together. Or I guess we're not

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Speaker 1: getting the team back together because they were never together before.

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Speaker 1: So we're getting the team together in the first place,

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Speaker 1: because Rob, is this our first example of a a

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Speaker 1: turbo team or dream team style movie of the of

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Speaker 1: the genre where you have a specialist of several different

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Speaker 1: It might be it's a It's one of these genres

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Speaker 1: that I think is easy to take for granted because

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Speaker 1: it's such a core aspect of the Marvel cinematic universe,

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Speaker 1: from the Avengers to Guardians of the Galaxy. It's also

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Speaker 1: a key part of our sort of role playing Dungeons

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Speaker 1: and Dragons sense of adventure. You have a diverse group

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Speaker 1: that's brought together. Everybody has their own skill set. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they come from different backgrounds, different species even, and you

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Speaker 1: know a lot of that's probably based on the sort

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Speaker 1: of blueprint provided by the Fellowship of the Ring. Ah. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so you have a warrior king and a wizard and

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Speaker 1: an elf archer and uh, well, I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: guess a lot of what the various parties in The

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Speaker 1: Fellowship do is is basically fight in one way or another.

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Speaker 1: But that's also true of some of these dream team

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Speaker 1: turbo team type movies. There are people who just fight

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Speaker 1: with different Uh I don't know, weapons or specialties. You'll

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, good heist movie, right well, or even more

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Speaker 1: to the point, a terrible heist movie will will inevitably

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Speaker 1: have this, uh this as part of the plot. You

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Speaker 1: gotta bring it, you gotta have your safe cracking dude,

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Speaker 1: you gotta have your heavy weapons dude for some reason,

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Speaker 1: and so forth. It's a proven formula. Why question it.

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Speaker 1: So what is the specific movie we're looking at to

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Speaker 1: a It is a nineteen eighty six film called Eliminators. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're going back to six with this one, a banner

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Speaker 1: year for genre films, and we're also going back to

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Speaker 1: the filmographies of Peter Manougian and producer Charles band. I

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Speaker 1: could be wrong, but I think Manougian is the first

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Speaker 1: Weirdout Cinema, though certainly we've covered multiple films produced by

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Speaker 1: such names as Charles Band, Roger Corman, et cetera. And

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Speaker 1: of course we've come back to different films featuring some

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Speaker 1: of the same actors. Oh yeah, Arena. Manugian did Arena

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Speaker 1: the the space alien boxing movie. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: you've yet monster m m A where it had like

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Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna go right ahead and say there is

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Speaker 1: no contest whatsoever. Arena was a better movie than Eliminators,

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Speaker 1: though you can see the connective stissue. You can see

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Speaker 1: both films feature cyborgs, and both films feature star trek actors. Uh,

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Speaker 1: so they have a lot in common. Now, for those

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Speaker 1: your seats wondering, I know, I know, I know, But

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Speaker 1: will there be boats in this movie? You can rest assured. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And and if you don't believe me, you can consult

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Speaker 1: one of the nine stills from the film included on

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Speaker 1: the back cover of the VHS box. Uh, there is

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Speaker 1: photographic guarantee there will be gratuitous watercraft in this movie.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, there there are a lot of boats

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Speaker 1: in I started getting the feeling that this is going

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Speaker 1: to be one of those movies where the title actually

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Speaker 1: you know, my fears were well founded. In fact, the

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Speaker 1: team of eliminators in this movie are never called eliminators

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Speaker 1: by anyone. They never refer to themselves as eliminators. None

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Speaker 1: of what they're doing could really all that easily be

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Speaker 1: described as eliminating. I guess they're sort of on a

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Speaker 1: evil doings. But overall, I would just say that the

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Speaker 1: title of this movie is a more or less random word,

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Speaker 1: more appropriate title for this film would have been either Mann,

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Speaker 1: droid or boats. Yes. Um, Now, if if you want

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Speaker 1: have I have a framed copy of this poster. By

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Speaker 1: the way, it is a beautiful poster. And I remember

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Speaker 1: seeing the VHS box art and I remember thinking it

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Speaker 1: If you want a time travel movie that makes transfers

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Speaker 1: The time travel is almost kind of an afterthought in it.

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Speaker 1: Colonel Norah Hunter has the brains to mastermind the operation.

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Speaker 1: of Death, starring Bill Maherr as the sort of rogue

424
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: e boat captain. It would seem to me that a

425
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 1: lot of this has got to draw from the Indiana

426
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: Jones tradition, but just not quite managing to nail the

427
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 1: lovable nous of Indiana Jones. Right. Yeah, if you can't

428
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 1: get the chemistry quite right for your Indiana Jones character,

429
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: you end up with that with the Michael Douglas character.

430
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 1: And if you're and then if you're aiming for that,

431
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 1: you can't quite It's kind of like a game of telephone,

432
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: where by the end of it, what do you have?

433
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: You have? You have Andrew Prin playing this um It's likable,

434
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: but not nearly as charismatic character, but but still a

435
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: lot of fun. Like this is a performance that has

436
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 1: a lot of roguish energy and it's I I constantly

437
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 1: enjoyed watching to see what Prian was going to do

438
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: with his face next, Like what kind of weird um

439
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: uh cell he was going to give on things? He

440
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: also had kind of ah for some reason, I was

441
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,959
Speaker 1: thinking he had kind of John Karradine vibe to. It's

442
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: something about his sort of lankiness. Oh yeah, okay, I

443
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: was thinking a much less creepy James Woods. Yes, yeah,

444
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: I think that's that's spot on as well. All right.

445
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 1: That leads us to the final member of this party,

446
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: not counting the robot that flies around. We'll discuss that

447
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 1: in a bit, But we have the character Cougie, played

448
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 1: by Conan Lee, who also served as fight choreographer on

449
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: the picture. He was born in nineteen fifty nine Chinese

450
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: American action movie actor and stuntman. Um He was born

451
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: born in China, but uh you know, grew up in

452
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: New York if I'm remembering correctly. The same year as

453
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: this picture, eight six, he appeared as a Change Sing

454
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: gang member in Big Trouble and Little China Chang Sing.

455
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: Those are those are the good guys, right, They're the

456
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: guys who Victor Wong recruits. Yes, Now, Conin Lee also

457
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: had roles in jim Kata uh Ninja in The Dragon's

458
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: Den that would. In that one he appeared alongside hiro

459
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: Yoki Sonata would not to of course, become a major

460
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: not only Japanese film star, ban international film star. He's

461
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 1: also done some voice work and some directing and writing. Um.

462
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: He also appears in the Fred Ollen Ray movie from

463
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 1: nine six Armed Response that starred David Carradine Lee Van Cliff, Mako,

464
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 1: Ross Hagen, Dick Miller, and Michael Berryman. So quite a

465
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 1: cast there, that's a that's a full on captain's platterer. Yes,

466
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: you're getting the sampler, all deep pride alright. A couple

467
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: of bit players of note that will this will become

468
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: more important important in a bit. But we have the

469
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: the actor Peter Schrum playing Ray, who is the primary

470
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: henchman in this picture. Essentially, Um, what would what would

471
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: you say? Uh? Because he's the Darth Vader of this movie.

472
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Not the Darth Vader he would be. Um,

473
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 1: he's the m hmm, what would you say? He's sort

474
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,719
Speaker 1: of the Clarence Bodicker of this movie. I mean, except

475
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: he's like this, this large beefy guy with the big

476
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: red Beard who wears a vest and he he's kind

477
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: of bumbling but murderous at the same time. And uh,

478
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: and the main the main bad guy does force lightning

479
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 1: to his crotch. Yes, he played Santa Claus in Transfers. Uh.

480
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: I don't think it was the real Santa Claus, just

481
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: a Santa Claus. And he also played Lloyd in Terminator too.

482
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: Now if you don't remember Lloyd, Lloyd is the character

483
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: who pulls a shotgun on the eight hundred, and the

484
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: eight hundred steals a shotgun, right so, Arnold Schwarzenegger spends

485
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: the rest of Terminator to wearing Peter Shrum's sunglasses and

486
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: carrying his shotgun who wore at best? I don't know,

487
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: Some say Lloyd I don't know, but but but who

488
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: who does he work for? In this movie? Ray the

489
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: Henchman works for the big bad of eliminates abbott Reeves

490
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: played by really Detrice. Oh yes, how can I skip?

491
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: Roy to Trice? Um? Yeah, Roy to Trice is great

492
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: in this Uh. He lived through twenty seventeen. Quite a

493
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: legendary voice. Game of Thrones audio book fans will recognize

494
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: him as their beloved narrator and the I think he

495
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: had like a Guinness Book of World Records record for

496
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: like the number of characters voiced distinctive voices in a

497
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: given audiobook performance. Oh that's interesting. Yeah, I have listened

498
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: to some of those audio books, by the way, and

499
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: he does a good job, though occasionally. I don't know

500
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: if this has been corrected in subsequent editions or anything,

501
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: but in the ones I listened to, some errors got through.

502
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: I remember there was at least there were at least

503
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: a couple of points where he referred to Geoffrey as

504
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: Jeffrey and it was just in there. Now. His George R.

505
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: Martin connections seemed to go back to Beauty and the Beast,

506
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: the TV series This is the one with Ron Pearlman

507
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: in it on that played the character Jacob father Wells,

508
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: and I think at one point he even wrote an

509
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: episode of the show, so he must have he must

510
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: have gotten gotten along quite well with George R. Martin.

511
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: His last role was playing the Pyromancer character on the

512
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones TV series, small part, but memorable now.

513
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: He was also in a wide array of projects throughout

514
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: his long career. This is always a fun When he

515
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: dubbed Harvey Kitel's voice and Saturn three, which is came

516
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: out it's very much and I think Kirk Douglas is

517
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: in that one. And Uh, basically it's an evil scientist character.

518
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: And Uh. The story has has always been that the

519
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: director decided he didn't like Harvey Kyitel's voice like he

520
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: sounded to you know, New York Uh in the picture

521
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: to be a mad scientist. And depending on who's telling

522
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: the story, either they just decided to dub him over

523
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: or they wanted Kytail to come back in and do

524
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: his own dubbing, but he wasn't available. I'm not sure

525
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: how it went down, but we end up with uh,

526
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: with Roy's voice and Harvey's appearance. He was also noted

527
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: notably uh in Amadeus. He played Leopold Mozart. In that Oh,

528
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: Mozart's dad, imperious and threatening even after his death. Yeah,

529
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: at any rate, it makes for a great British goateede villain,

530
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: which he certainly is to a t in this picture. Ohhh,

531
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: but lest we forget my favorite character in the film,

532
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: we cannot we cannot leave out by You Betty, Yes,

533
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: um by You Betty is a character that like when

534
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: she first shows up, it's just well, we'll get to it.

535
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: She's she's tremendous. You just don't expect this to be

536
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: a major character in the film, and then she comes

537
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: back and you're delighted to have more. Uh. Played by

538
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: Peggy Mannix for nine A spirited performance from a long

539
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: time TV bit player. She also has done a lot

540
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: of theater work and I think has been very much

541
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: involved in like storytelling, uh sort of ventures. Um. I

542
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: think this might be her most notable acting role, though.

543
00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: I mean she's popped up as a bit player in

544
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: number of things, Like I think she she shows up

545
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: on Seinfeld at some point. By you, Betty's the heart

546
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: and soul of this movie. Just just a ray of sunlight. Um.

547
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: Another thing I caught though when I didn't notice it

548
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: until the final credits were rolling when the movie was over,

549
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: but Rachel actually called it out. She pointed, she said, hey,

550
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: look John Carl Biekler, and sure enough, special effects, makeup

551
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: and eliminators by John Carl Biekler. I think he also

552
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: did some effects for Arena, unless I'm remembering that wrong.

553
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: And this is a guy who did a whole bunch

554
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: of special effects for movies of this type throughout the eighties,

555
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: but he also directed some movies of his own, including

556
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: The Original Troll and Friday Thirteenth Part seven, the one

557
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: with the Psychic Powers. Good catch, Good catches there. Rachel

558
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: um I do generally mentioned the music on this The

559
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: music is nothing really to write home about in this picture.

560
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: It's fine. It's it's you know, heroic and everything. But

561
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: it comes to us from Bob Summers, who also did

562
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: scores for The Boogins, Uh, the Annihilators, and worked in

563
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: the music department on scores for such films as Sideways,

564
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: Night of the Comet and Metal Storm, Destruction of jared'son Yeah,

565
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,239
Speaker 1: the one in Only, which is similar scores, I think,

566
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: you know, very heroic, but also kind of generic. I'm

567
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I thought the music and this one

568
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: was was pretty weak. There's a lot of uh, kind

569
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: of kind of plinking one note MIDI versions of of

570
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: like I don't know, the two thousand one of Space

571
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: Odyssey theme and and stuff like that. Yeah, so sometimes

572
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: I may say, hey, this score deserves a special edition

573
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: vinyl release. This this score does not deserved a special

574
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: edition vinyl release. Special edition MIDDI. Maybe maybe one of

575
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: those junior size cassettes, but not the full size cassette. Okay,

576
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: you want to get into the plot, let's do it. First.

577
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: Thing I noticed in this movie shows you the title

578
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: right right at the top. I don't know if this

579
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: is the version I was looking at or what, but

580
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: why is the title so dim? It's like they were

581
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: showing the movie an energy saver mode? Yeah, I I

582
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: had the same experience during the early stage of this

583
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: this movie. I was actually wondering, is this is this

584
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: an an energy saver mode? Did I buy a bad television? Yeah?

585
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: What's going with my TV? Yeah? It's it's very grimy

586
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: and uh and dark at the beginning. Luckily, it's not

587
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: going to take us too long to be in a

588
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: boat about in broad daylight, where we'll spend most of

589
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: the picture. But yeah, they're early stages of this are

590
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: a little grimy. So while the credits roll, we get

591
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: some background imagery and some scenes going on. We see

592
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: a terminator face just this straight up roop off the

593
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: terminator with the red eye, uh, surrounded by fire. And

594
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: then we see a fighter pilot like in one of

595
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: those little uh oh, I don't know what do you

596
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: call it? The bubble top? Uh? Pilots seat uh and

597
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: he's screaming, may day, may day, I'm going down. And

598
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: then we see some ancient Roman soldiers and there there's

599
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: spears and we're in the little leather skirts and they're

600
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: fighting a battle against some enemy equipped with lasers. Yeah,

601
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: so it's already just confusing, as I'll get out what

602
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: what is happening? Right? What could this all mean? Well,

603
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: we're about to find out. So the credits montage dissolves

604
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: into some kind of darkened laboratory with electricity arking all

605
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: over the place. This is the zap room, and we

606
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: meet to scientists. We've got We've got Dr Takata played

607
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: by Tadashi Horino, who is a kind hearted elder scientist

608
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: who's apparently elated at the success of whatever experiment they

609
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: just pulled off. And then on the other hand, you've

610
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: got Roy Detrice playing Dr Abbott Reeves, a sadistic, mad

611
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: scientist with Rutger Hower hair. Also half of his face

612
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: is kind of melted, and just from moment one he

613
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: is like a gentleman to evil. You know, I think

614
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: nothing illustrates how rushed this movie feels more than having

615
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: a mad scientist character named Abbott. Reeves like, well, that's

616
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 1: the best you could come up with. There's so many,

617
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: you know, sardonic names you could devise, but you go

618
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: with with Reeves, which of course brings to bhind like

619
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: Steve Reeves and Superman and so forth. It just doesn't

620
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: sound evil enough. I agree. But but but Roy to

621
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: Trees is going for that evil flavor with Gusto. Rachel

622
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: and I were talking about it and we figured out

623
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: that he's he's playing this role basically half as Donald

624
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 1: Pleasants and half as Rutger Hower. Okay, that's a that's

625
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: a good mix if one can achieve it. But on

626
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: the other hand, you've got Dr Takata, who is he's

627
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: like a good guy, but for some reason, he has

628
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 1: just taken a job at the Institute for Twisted Cruelty

629
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: Studies under Dr satan Here and I don't know why.

630
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: But putting that aside for the moment, so what happens

631
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: in the scene, Well, Takada is like the experiment worked,

632
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: and Reeves says, only if he brought proof. So Takata

633
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: is trying to celebrate, but Reeves is just trying to

634
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: He's just ordering him around. He's like helped the men

635
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: Droid from the cage at once, So they open up

636
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 1: some kind of chamber and out pops our man droid.

637
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: For the film, how to describe what this guy looks like?

638
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: He's he's half of his head is like, uh, is

639
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 1: a terminator head? Yeah, you have half a terminator head,

640
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: red eye glaring. The rest of his body is kind

641
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: of you know, hodgepodge of of armor, like sort of

642
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: power armory looking stuff that I guess is supposed to

643
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: imply that he's he's actually robot underneath all that stuff.

644
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 1: I think. So his left arm is like a mega

645
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: man arm. It's like a gun for an arm. The

646
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: man droid he comes up to Reeves, He hands over

647
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: a plastic prop shield and roy jitrices Alton, Yes, first

648
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: centuries centurion shield no less magnificent uh and and let

649
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: I would have thought, Okay, how would he know this?

650
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: Why does this mad scientists know things about ancient Rome?

651
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: And he's able to identify artifacts. But I think this

652
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: actually doesn't make sense because he's apparently obsessed with ancient Rome. Yeah,

653
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: we find out much later in film that he is

654
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: a connoisseur of these items. I don't know why he

655
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: is he just is you know, he's kind of a

656
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: you know, a megalomaniac clearly, and he he likes the

657
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: he likes the shine of of the Roman Imperial period,

658
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: and uh, you know that's why he at some point decides,

659
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: I want to use time travel technology to go back

660
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: in time and conquer ancient Rome and become their ruler. Yeah,

661
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: what's the big deal, I'm just a Caligula enthusiast. Yeah.

662
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: Oh but yeah, I guess we're kind of burying the

663
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: lead now. So the weird thing is, did you also

664
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: get the feeling that the movie is maybe trying to

665
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: be a little bit coy about what the deal with

666
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: the experiment was, like building up to a reveal later on,

667
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: But it doesn't work because like, obviously it was time

668
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: travel and they sent the man droid back to like

669
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: shoot Roman soldiers and steal one of their shields. Yeah, yeah,

670
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: it feels like that might have been the case. Like

671
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: they're trying to leave you guessing, but we we all know,

672
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: we all know it's time travel. Wow, what was the experiment?

673
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: How did he get this shield? Why are their cavemen

674
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: running around scenes of Roman soldiers? I mean, it's it's

675
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: time travel. What else could it be? You're running a

676
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: Westworld park. I mean, that's the only other possible explanation. Meanwhile,

677
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: Dr Takada, he's over here showing his sensitive side because

678
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: Roy Detrees is doing his megalomaniac thing. But Takadah, he's like,

679
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: he wants to know how the mandroid feels. And the

680
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 1: mandroid says he can barely remember, except he he knows

681
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: on his journey he saw flashes of memories. He says,

682
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: I was in my plane going down again. So our

683
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: man droid is haunted by horrible memories of a plane

684
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: crash that are rippling through his borg brain. And uh,

685
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: and then Roy Detrees does something I was just trying

686
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: to figure out. He like plugs himself into a tube

687
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: of some kind. Is he supposed to be on some

688
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: kind of dialysis or is he is he like part

689
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 1: robot at this point and plugging himself into recharge. Well,

690
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: he also has a like he has all these wounds

691
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: on his face too, right, Like he's he's using mad

692
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: science to read who from something. But I don't think

693
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: we're ever quite I told what it was, right, He's

694
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: just he gets a little better each time we see him.

695
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: Takada wants to send the man droid off to heal

696
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: and be repaired. You know, he tells him, you've done well,

697
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: my friend, because he is a kindly scientist. But then

698
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: immediately Reeves is like, no, destroy it, make it suffer,

699
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: and to uh, Takata is like, but you know his

700
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: his brain is half human. It's he's alive. You can't

701
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: do that. But Reeves says, since when have we ever

702
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: been concerned with compassion? What compassion was ever shown to me?

703
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 1: And then you get a good like burned face reveal

704
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 1: he's kind of dabbing at his his burns. Now the

705
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: whole thing with the mandroid having these visions of being

706
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: in a like a World War two plane crash. Uh,

707
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: that means they bone jacked him, right, Like these guys

708
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: are bone jackers. Yes, yes, they got the meat, but

709
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: the meat was damaged. Thus, then I guess the meat

710
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: was damaged. That's why you make a man board, right,

711
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: a man droid? You or did they just aside, no,

712
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: we need a we only need to use part of

713
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: the meat and create the mandroid. We need a man

714
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: droid for our various time travel uh uh? Thefts well,

715
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: apparently they don't need him that long because Reeves roy

716
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: Detres is like, no, destroy him. So Takada is like, okay,

717
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: well I'm I'm gonna have to set the Mandroid free

718
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 1: so he you know, he conspires with them. He says,

719
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: we will escape this place tonight, and the Mandroid says,

720
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: I'll need my mobile unit. And the mobile unit I

721
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: love the mobile unit. How to describe the mobile unit?

722
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: Rob When I say mobile unit, what words come to

723
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: your mind? Oh? Um, well, now it is clearly going

724
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: to be um like a tank centaur situation. You know

725
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: it is this um. I don't know what the words

726
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: would have have brought to mind previously, but I knew

727
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: where we were going because I've seen the poster. The

728
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: mobile unit is one of these effects that really, this

729
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: is fabulously done. This looks amazing, It looks great. At

730
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 1: the same time, the rest of the picture is cheap

731
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: enough to where like, this effect looks a little hokey,

732
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: even though the effect itself, I think looks looks extremely solid,

733
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 1: It looks very good, but it also looks really unintentionally funny.

734
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: And the reason I would put it there is they

735
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: came up with a really quite good special effect, but

736
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: they filmed it in such a way and edited it

737
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 1: in such a way that like you see it moving

738
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: in awkward ways, like he so it's a guy on

739
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: tank treads like he's a tank centaur. He takes his

740
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: legs off and plugs his torso into this tank thing.

741
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: But then when you actually see him moving around on it,

742
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: it looks like it would be more efficient for him

743
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: to just use his legs because he's really like gets

744
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: stuck rolling around on stuff and then tries to do

745
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: a three point turn and it's really funny. Yeah, yeah,

746
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's kind of like when a child

747
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: is like, no, I want to take my scooter and

748
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: the parents like, oh god, this is gonna take even

749
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: longer it would. It would be easier if you walked.

750
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: But but yeah, it also comes back to the basic

751
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: premise we've discussed before, like, no matter how good your

752
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: monster costume is, or in this case, your your your

753
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: half tank cyborgs centaur costume happens to be if you

754
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: just shoot it in broad daylight, you're not doing it

755
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: any favors, agreed. But anyway, they get caught while they're

756
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: trying to escape, and unfortunately the kindly. Doctor Takata is

757
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: killed in their escape attempt, but before he dies, he

758
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: tells the Mandroid that he must go and find a

759
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: scientist named Colonel Hunter, and if he finds Colonel Hunter,

760
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 1: he can he can have all the answers. So then

761
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: there's a big escape sequence where he's rolling around on

762
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: his tracks and he's trying to get out of the

763
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,919
Speaker 1: compound and then we meet here. We get our first

764
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: meeting with Ray the Hinchman, who when when Rachel and

765
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: I first saw him, we were like, oh, it's Cringe

766
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: Shaw from Barky Creek because he's got he's got a

767
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: big red beard. Uh. And he's dressed kind of like

768
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: a like a bayou guy but not quite in like

769
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: just the shirtless with overalls like Cringe Shaw. But he's

770
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,439
Speaker 1: halfway there and he uh, and he's on sniper duty.

771
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: He's trying to like shoot the man Droid with this

772
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: big weird gun that has these three red scopes on it. Yeah,

773
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: like that the gun looks like it's some sort of

774
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: futuristic device, you know, it's it's a it's very much

775
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: like a sci fi sniper rifle. But there's nothing else

776
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: about Ray that that suggests science fiction, Like, he's just

777
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: this bearded dude. Uh, you know, might be just a

778
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 1: trucker that was making a shipment to the Mad Science

779
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: Lab and was hired on the spot Ray looks like

780
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: a guy who would own a food truck called wild

781
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: Bubba's Boot and Balls. Yeah, yeah, very much though, and

782
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: and you know, looking at him, you know that he

783
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 1: owns a boat. Well. Anyway, the mandroid escapes, he parks

784
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: his mobile units somewhere in the jungle, puts his leg

785
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: units on, which is great. This is a great sequence.

786
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: Like it said again, they just really thought out this

787
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: mobile unit thing. Yes, uh, and then he he walks

788
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 1: out of the jungle and then next thing, we're just

789
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: immediately into some place that looks like a modern art museum.

790
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: This is where we meet Denise Crosby and she's there

791
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 1: doing science again. This is Colonel Hunter, Colonel Nora Hunter,

792
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: and she's doing tests on a robot prototype that she

793
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: has developed called Spot. Yeah, and Spot is um not

794
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: as great an effect. I mean, he's just a little robot.

795
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: It's it's neat, it's not you know, it's not the

796
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: worst robot effect I've seen. But he looks a little hokey,

797
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: and later on in the picture, especially when he's flying around,

798
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: it really just looks real bad. So SPOT is an acronym.

799
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: It stands for Search, Patrol and Operational Tactician. And I

800
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: think what they're going for is because they've got a Mandroid,

801
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 1: they've got like a gritty uh you know, a gritty

802
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: assassin bot that shoots torpedoes and lasers and stuff, they

803
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: wanted to also have a cute robot in the vein

804
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: of like short Circuit or R two D two right

805
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: that this guy's not cute. I mean this is it's

806
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 1: very forced, much like the name of the creature, and

807
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: it's it's just their little um reconnaissance robot. But she's

808
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: doing tests with Spot and then meanwhile man droid and

809
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: filtrates the perimeter. Apparently he's in disguise. I'm saying that

810
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: with scare quotes here, because his disguise is he's still

811
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: a Mandroid, but he's wearing like an alligator skin fedora

812
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: and a rain poncho. Yes, yeah, he looks very very

813
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: suss as the kids say, kind of Phantom of the

814
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 1: Opera asked rather hilarious. Actually, in fact, it's even funnier

815
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: when he takes the stuff off to reveal him. So

816
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 1: he you know, he meets Denise Crosby and he's like hello,

817
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: and she's like who are you? And he uh. This

818
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: is after he is, by the way, knocked out some

819
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: security guards by spurring green gas in their face. But

820
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: then he comes up and she's like, oh, who are you?

821
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: What's going on? And then he removes his fedora and

822
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: his poncho to clearly, this is supposed to be like

823
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: a gasp borg reveal, but we've already seen him, so

824
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: we know what he looks like. She's acting very surprised.

825
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: But are we supposed to believe that people don't notice

826
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: that half of his face is a terminator as long

827
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 1: as he's wearing the hat. Like later in the movie

828
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: he hides the terminator half under bandages, but he's not

829
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: doing that here. He's just this is a half terminator,

830
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: but he's wearing a hat. Well, I guess we're just

831
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: supposed to imagine that his head was it just the

832
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: right angle throughout all of this so we could see

833
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: the terminator stuff that she could not. Well, So he

834
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,479
Speaker 1: explains the backstory that we've already seen. He talks about

835
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: his you know what happened before he was borned he

836
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: he remembers crashing a plane and he says his body

837
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: was taken up river. And then he says, when I

838
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: woke up, I saw this, I think, referring to his

839
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: droid body and uh and she and she starts looking

840
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: at the technology that he has been outfitted with, and

841
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 1: she says, your arms, your leg units, it's my work,

842
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: all of it. So we find out that the man

843
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: droid is actually based on technology that was originally intended

844
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: for peaceful uses in space exploration. And uh so, so

845
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 1: Dr Reeves is not only an evil, mad scientist, he's

846
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: also a thief who has been stealing the intellectual property

847
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: of Denise Crosby to make unholy Man droids in the jungle. Yeah,

848
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: I mean, once he goes back in time to uh

849
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: what is it for first century? Uh CE or or

850
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: b C. I'm not I remember him. Like, once he

851
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: goes back, clearly he has all the copyrights, all the trademarks.

852
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: Oh well, that's a good point. I didn't think about that.

853
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: I mean, he's probably just bringing stuff back with him

854
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: just to just like he's bringing super soakers and he's

855
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: just like Nope, I invented it, clearly. But here we

856
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 1: also find out the doctor Reeves is like borging himself

857
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,919
Speaker 1: as well, because Denise Crosby says, but Reeves died five

858
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 1: years ago, and the man Droids says, no, he prolonged

859
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: his life through grafting and transplants. All right, So that

860
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: explains what's going on and what what we continue to

861
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: see going on with Dr Reeves. But then I liked

862
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,919
Speaker 1: how so she's like, well, what's going on with your head?

863
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: So he just sits down and she starts she opens

864
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: up his head and starts working on it, like soldering

865
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: his brain chips while he's sitting there awake, and he's

866
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: like ah, and he he hallucinates some Roman centurions and uh.

867
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: And then they eventually agree that they've got a team up.

868
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: They've got to form a turbo team to go on

869
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 1: a mission to the jungle to stop Abbott Reeves from

870
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: doing whatever he's doing. So this is the first hint

871
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: of the team. The Turbo team begins. He begins with

872
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: two team partially assembled. But before we get to the jungle,

873
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,919
Speaker 1: I thought, when there was a really funny scene where

874
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: they're driving in a car in whatever city, Dennis Crosby

875
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 1: was working in UH and there is a car jacking

876
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 1: attempt where a guy like busts out the window and

877
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: tries to steal her robot spot Um. And before before

878
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: he busts out the window, he's like, hey, you need

879
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: some body work, and the of course mandroid is very

880
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: confused by this. He's like, are you talking to me?

881
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 1: And she's like no, he's talking about at the car.

882
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: Then the guy breaks the window tries to grab her robot,

883
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: and then the man droid gets out of the car

884
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: and like shoots torpedoes at these random carjackers, and he

885
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: delivers the first of this movie's several absolute clunker comebacks.

886
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: You're the one who will need body work? Well, he had,

887
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: he has damaged processor at this point that's been established.

888
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 1: He can't be expected to really come up with any

889
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: singers on the spot. His Zinger circuits are badly in

890
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: need of repair. Area. Well, so, anyway, I think they

891
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: go down to Mexico where they're supposed to be finding

892
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: a way to UH to take a boat up the

893
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: river to find Abbott Reeves. So they're gonna need a

894
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: boat and a guide. And this is where we get

895
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: to our Cantina scene, a tremendous scene, a real milestone

896
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: in the movie. Um, how do you even begin here?

897
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: I mean, so this is where we meet our I

898
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 1: was gonna say bounty hunter, but he's not a bounty hunter.

899
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: Our our mercenary, our guide, our river rat, one of

900
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: our new turbo team members. This guy is Harry Fontana.

901
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: This is uh, what's his name, Andrew Prine. Yes, he's

902
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: a slimeball river rat with long hair and a five

903
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: o'clock shadow. And it's a real kind of Tim Thomerson

904
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: sort of role. Yeah. In fact, it's funny that you

905
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: say that. It's my understanding that Tim Thomerson was was

906
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: originally offered the role, like he was originally who they

907
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: wanted in this role, but for some reason that didn't

908
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: work out inter inter um prime. And you know, I

909
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: have to say, I think Thomerson would have been too

910
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: likable in the role. I think I think Thomerson has

911
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: is just his charisma is a little a little more

912
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: wholesome somehow, And I like that we have a more

913
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: proper river rat on our hands here. But also, but

914
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: he's not the only thing in the scene. The scene

915
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: also has this weird bar tender who had What was

916
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: going on with that guy's accent? It was so he

917
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 1: you would expect him to have, I guess a Mexican accent.

918
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: This is in Mexico, but he's sort of halfway has

919
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: a Scottish accent. The one thing that vaguely made me

920
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 1: think of is the the old black and white film

921
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 1: Wages of Fear, which I think we have memory serves,

922
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: revolves around like a bunch of ex pats. You know,

923
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: they're kind of stuck somewhere in South America. I think, um,

924
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,439
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, they're trying to sort of scheme

925
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: their way out, like so maybe there's a certain certain

926
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: uh dash of that flavor added to this picture. I'm

927
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: not sure. But then, of course, into my favorite character,

928
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: by you Betty, who saunters into the bar surrounded by

929
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: a gang of obsequious, cowardly Frenchman and by you Betty

930
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: is apparently a rival river rat, so you've got Harry

931
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 1: Fontana your main river rat. And then by you Betty,

932
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: she is a different riverboat guide who is not happy

933
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: that Fontana is stealing her business. She accuses him of

934
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: undercutting I'm not sure exactly what she thinks the problem is.

935
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: But maybe it's that people, you know, people are paying

936
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 1: to ride in his boat instead of paying to ride

937
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: in her boat because he charges less money. Yeah, I

938
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: think that's that's the case. Anyway, she she has an

939
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: informed and bio Betty. I have to say, bio Betty

940
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: feels kind of like a like an Amy Sedaris character,

941
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: Like like this could be an Amy Sedaris character. That's

942
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: the best way I can describe it. By you. Betty

943
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 1: is a. Yeah, she's a She's a tough, violent Cajun

944
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: woman who enjoys threatening and punching people. And uh, there's

945
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: there are a number of things that make me think

946
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: that the makers of this movie believed that Louisiana is

947
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: located within, uh like the forested part of southern Mexico

948
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: because it has Cajun river guides. And then Ray the

949
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 1: Crnshaw henchman, he's plausibly a Louisiana guy too. He like

950
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: he's got a very crawled ad kind of energy. So

951
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. But where we go

952
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,919
Speaker 1: to next is is great, Like it feels like something

953
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: out of a Popeye cartoon. Because Denis probably is entered.

954
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: She needs to hire a riverboat guide, and so how

955
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: are you going to determine this? So are you gonna

956
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: look at the resumes? No? No, She just comes in

957
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: and says, hey, I need the toughest guide to this river.

958
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: And I guess Bayou Betty. You know she's she's she's

959
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: all about action. She she puts her money where her

960
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 1: mouth is. She hauls off and slugs her own French

961
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: henchman in the jaw and then just a big fight

962
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: immediately breaks out. Everybody in the cantina starts punching each other.

963
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 1: People are slamming glass bottles and smashing each other of

964
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: her tables. Why I don't know, but it's great. But

965
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: not Harry Fontana. Now he he ducks behind the bar,

966
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: helps himself to a little free alcohol, and waits till

967
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: everybody has kind of fought themselves into a stupor. Uh,

968
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: and then smashes a bottle on the back of Bio

969
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: Betty's head. Now he's the clear winner, he claims the business. Right,

970
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: he out skunked them all. He proved his worth worthiness

971
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 1: by being a coward and a thief. Yes. Uh. And

972
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 1: then from here, for the next approximately thirty six hours,

973
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: this movie becomes the saga of boat. Yeah. Yeah, it's

974
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: just there's there's boats chasing each other, running for people

975
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: falling out of boats, people climbing into boats, stuff exploding

976
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: next to boats, boats exploding. Uh, just any variation on

977
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 1: the theme you might be looking for eliminators has it.

978
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: And then you think the boat chase is over, and

979
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,720
Speaker 1: then the next scene is like the characters start talking

980
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: and then a new boat chase starts. But that's kind

981
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: of great because so after the cantina scene, I was like,

982
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: oh my god, I love by You Betty. I was

983
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 1: so afraid she would just vanish from the movie here

984
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: and that would be all the by You Betty we get.

985
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: But middle stretch of the movie is mostly like so

986
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: it's Harry Fontana, the river rat, trying to figure out

987
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: what it is that that that the band droid and

988
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 1: Denise Crosby or after you know, he's like do you

989
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: want gold? You want diamonds? What are you doing here?

990
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: And then meanwhile by You Betty is chasing them in

991
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: a fleet of boats with armed henchmen, all apparently so

992
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: she can have their fair Like she's hunting them down

993
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: with all these weapons so so that she can convince

994
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: them to ride into her boat instead of is yeah,

995
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: I mean she must be. She must be working up

996
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: to wanting to cut off the treasure, because that's ultimately

997
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: what Fontana is all about. Too. He's like, he thinks

998
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: this is about gold. This is about, you know, something

999
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: from some other jungle adventure movie, some sort of ancient

1000
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: treasure situation, and he wants a cut of it. That's

1001
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: that's where he's going to really excel. But of course

1002
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: they're all wrong. This There is no gold. This is

1003
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: a this is a mission of elimination. Uh not not

1004
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: not treasure hunting. Right, but along the way we get

1005
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 1: lots of boat stunts and boat chases. Oh and then

1006
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: I thought was part of the scene is Harry Fontana

1007
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: learning valuable lessons about overcoming sexist attitudes, because at one

1008
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 1: point they're they're trying to fight off Bayou Betty's henchman,

1009
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: and uh, somebody needs to drive the boat. And Denise

1010
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 1: Crosby's like, I can drive the boat and he's like,

1011
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: you can't drive it. You're a woman. So he um.

1012
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 1: But then the man Droid like shames him into relenting.

1013
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: The man Droid literally yells at him that's wrong. Uh.

1014
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: And then the same pattern is repeated with fixing the

1015
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: boat's engine. Uh he he doesn't know what he's doing.

1016
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: But Denise Crossby comes in she can fix it, which

1017
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: she does by grabbing out of his hand what looks

1018
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 1: like a bottle of white wine. I think it's supposed

1019
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: to be liquor, but it's like yellow colored, and then

1020
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: she pours it into the engine somewhere Yeah and yeah,

1021
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: somehow fixes it with what seems to be to the

1022
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 1: alchemy or something. I don't know. She fixes it if

1023
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: it starts again. Like nobody has ever said to me,

1024
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: Are you haven't trouble getting your car to start? Have

1025
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 1: you tried pouring just alcohol on the motor? That seems

1026
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,439
Speaker 1: to work? It works in this one film I saw.

1027
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 1: There was one part where I didn't understand what was happening,

1028
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: But like that they are driving and Fontana keeps wildly,

1029
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: like causing the boat to veer back and forth instead

1030
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: of driving it in a straight line, and they're like,

1031
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: ease up, and then he goes, this is what you

1032
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 1: hired me for. And I don't know what that means

1033
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 1: or why any of it's happening, but anyway, there are

1034
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: a bunch more boat chases is eventually, uh, the man

1035
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 1: Droid has to intervene to get them to escape by

1036
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,720
Speaker 1: you Betty's goons by shooting a torpedo at Betty's boat.

1037
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: And then of course Fontana is like, whoa wait a minute,

1038
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: I saw you shoot a torpedo out of your arm.

1039
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: And then he gets the man Droid reveal, like he

1040
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: takes off his poncho and it's he's a man droid, um.

1041
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: And then there are more boat chases, this time with

1042
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: Ray you know, our Crnshaw guy. And basically for the

1043
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: rest of the movie, they're just on the mission with

1044
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:33,919
Speaker 1: various little vignettes and boat things happening. Uh. So maybe

1045
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: we could just go a little bit less seen by

1046
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: seeing here and describe some of the standout vignettes from

1047
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: the mission. I'd say one of the big ones, of course,

1048
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: is meeting our final member of the turbo team, Kuji

1049
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: the Ninja. Yes, who is um? Is he supposed to

1050
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Speaker 1: be the son of the good scientists from earlier. Yes,

1051
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: he's the son of Dr Takata, right, and so he's

1052
00:57:55,160 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: he's he's on on location here, I guess for vengeance.

1053
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: This is a vengeance mission for him, and do they do.

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00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: They explicitly say he's a ninja. Yeah, I don't remember it.

1055
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: Kung fu is alluded to by Fontana, but I mean

1056
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: it's it's clear that Couji is very good with weapons

1057
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: and fighting. There's a big, big fight scene that takes place.

1058
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's got an unlock. Yeah, now, Rob, what

1059
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: did you make? There was one part where where I

1060
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: was like, what is going on? But it was when

1061
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: the Turbo team is captured by the caveman from the

1062
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: Geico commercials uh and this is this is the part

1063
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: where Ginese cross they get captured in Denise Crosby's like

1064
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: they look like Neanderthals. Um, But of course we we

1065
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: figure out that they are. They are here for some

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00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: reason because they have been brought here through time travel experiments. Yeah,

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00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: that's that's really all I had to go on, Like

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00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: he must have retrieved some Neanderthals and just like let

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00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: them go, or they escaped and on their living wild

1070
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: or maybe he he is like, well, I'll just introduced

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00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: them into the area and they'll sort of serve as

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00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: a buffer between me and any you know, people that

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00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: show up to mess with my science. I don't know, um,

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00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: but they're there, and uh, and the makeup effects, though

1075
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how accurate they truly are regarding Neanderthals.

1076
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: It's pretty good basic cave you know, it's pretty good

1077
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: cave man makeup. They look pretty good. So they're they're

1078
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: played more for comic relief, I think than a serious threat. Well, anyway,

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00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: a bunch of other stuff happens. We we find out

1080
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: some things about Man Droid's past. He at one point,

1081
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: Denise Crosby like dives into a crashed plane to retrieve

1082
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: a family photo. I think this was the plane that

1083
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: the man who Mandroid was before he was Droid. Id uh,

1084
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: you know that this is the plane he flew and

1085
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: his family photo is in there. And so some more

1086
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: things happen, but eventually we get down to the final

1087
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: confrontation with Abbott Reeves with roy De Trees, who is

1088
00:59:56,680 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 1: now a full on cyborg himself and nearly invincible. You know.

1089
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: They shoot stuff at him and he just easily deflects it.

1090
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: It's it seems like he's unbeatable. How will they ever

1091
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 1: defeat him? Yeah, yeah, he's he's fully powered. He's blasting everything.

1092
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: He has a what is that? What does he referred

1093
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: to a special weapon as it um is an ion

1094
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: destroyer or an ion reverse or um. Oh there's the

1095
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: thing where he says it will turn the atoms in

1096
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: your body inside out. I like that, so of course

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01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: we see it, dude, nothing of the sort. He just

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01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: kind of this The cyborg gets blasted with it a

1099
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: few times, and you know, it's just sort of typical

1100
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: robot and gets hit with a laser gun sort of affair.

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01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: Uh So, I'm not really believing him all that much

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01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: on the claims regarding this weapon, right, But our our

1103
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 1: heroes fight through his hinchman. But then of course Abbot

1104
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: reeves in the end, escapes into his time machine and

1105
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 1: we find out his plan is to travel back in

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01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: time to ancient Rome and crown himself the cyborgs Caesar.

1107
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: So can our heroes save history from being borgified? Well,

1108
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: at first it looks like no, because he already gets

1109
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: into the time machine and he leaves, and they're like,

1110
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:10,439
Speaker 1: he's gone. We can't stop him. But oh wow, oh wow,

1111
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: this ending, yeah of Fontana basically saves the day, right

1112
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: because they're like, look, it's too late, he's already gone back.

1113
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 1: And then they see the date there on the time

1114
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: machine controls and Fontana just starts like hitting the machine,

1115
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: essentially vandalizing the machine. And then something happens. Well you

1116
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: can say what it is, Well, do we want to

1117
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: spoil this terrific and yes we do. UM. So basically, uh,

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01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: instead of going back to uh you know, first century

1119
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: uh C E or b C every get which instead

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01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: takes him way back, like like all pretty much all

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01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: the way back, uh you know, not not you know,

1122
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: primordial ooze level, but to the silurian Um time period.

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01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: So send him all the way back to to a

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01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: time when there's nothing to conquer, nothing to to to overpower.

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01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: Um and uh, and we we get this wonderful scene

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01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 1: where he we see the time machine is crashed in

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01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 1: this primordial landscape. Uh. He gets out of it, and

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01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: then he's like no, because he quickly realizes that he

1129
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 1: has gone far too back in time. There's no way back,

1130
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: and now he's the king of nothing. It's a pretty

1131
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 1: killer ending. I should have looked into this before we

1132
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: started recording. I don't know if there would have been

1133
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 1: breathable atmosphere at the time. Well, he's all sideboarded up

1134
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: at this point, right, So Okay, so he can be

1135
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: he'll he'll be fine in a CEO two atmosphere. Maybe,

1136
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, who are we to doubt the scene

1137
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 1: that we we witness here. I mean there would be

1138
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: some things to rule over, right, I mean mostly marine organisms. Yeah,

1139
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 1: it's something. I mean, you know something about babe. By

1140
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: day two he might have gotten over into like all right,

1141
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 1: it's it's all right, Reeves, it's not too bad. We're

1142
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: you know, the Caesar of slimes with the fish, the

1143
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: Caesar of fish. Uh, so we have that going for

1144
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 1: us least. That would have been a great scene. Actually

1145
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: he goes to the water's edge and there are these

1146
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: weird fish creatures and he's just like kneel before me.

1147
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 1: That would have been good. So it's quite it's quite

1148
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: an ending. And it's one of these where like our

1149
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: heroes save the day essentially by vandalism and kind of

1150
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: through the technicality, like basically the villain one, but they

1151
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: found a loophole in his victory. So I would say

1152
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: overall this was not a very good movie, but it

1153
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 1: was a goobery good time. Yeah, it's uh, this one's

1154
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. It's real dumb. But in a

1155
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: in a wonderfully watchable since so I highly recommend it

1156
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 1: um now. We watched it as part of the the

1157
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: excellent shout Factory Sci Fi Movie Marathon DVD set, which

1158
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: also includes Arena and two films that I have not

1159
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 1: seen America three thousand and the Time Guardian. I haven't

1160
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: seen them either, so no comment. I think Carrie Fisher's

1161
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 1: in one of them. I think she's in the Time Guardian,

1162
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: but that's all I know about now. Shout Factory also

1163
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: put out Eliminators on Blu Ray, and and eighty eight

1164
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: Films did a combo Blu Ray DVD release in I'm

1165
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 1: not sure if Eliminators is streaming anywhere at the moment

1166
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 1: as of this recording, but I think it has popped

1167
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 1: up on places like Prime in the past, so you know,

1168
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 1: if you're if you're looking out on to be or

1169
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 1: in places of that of that nature, you're bound to

1170
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 1: see it pop up eventually. All Right, we're gonna go

1171
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 1: and close it out, But of course we'd love to

1172
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 1: hear from anyone out there if we have any uh

1173
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 1: Eliminators fans out there. Uh, certainly if you saw this

1174
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: movie back in the eighties, we'd love to hear from you. Uh.

1175
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 1: If you want to check out other episodes of Weird House,

1176
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: Cinema comes out every Friday and the Stuff to Blow

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01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 1: Your Mind podcast feed were primarily a science podcast, but

1178
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 1: on Friday's we put aside all that serious stuff and

1179
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 1: we just focus in on a weird motion picture. Huge

1180
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 1: thanks as always to our excellent audio producer Seth Nicholas Johnson.

1181
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 1: If you would like to get in touch with us

1182
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 1: with feedback on this episode or any other to suggest

1183
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 1: a topic for future just to say hello, you can

1184
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: email us at contact at stuff to Blow your Mind

1185
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 1: dot com. And one more thing I have to say.

1186
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: Before I was really familiar with this film at all,

1187
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 1: I heard a sample from it on the track sci

1188
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: Fu is um off the Wax Factor album SSI Fu.

1189
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 1: I know this is an artist that now goes by

1190
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 1: the name of Pete Sasquax that's s A s q

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01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 1: W a X, and he's put out a ton of

1192
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 1: great content over the years. Most of his work is

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01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 1: currently on band Camp, and I think you can still

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01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 1: access si Fu the album on Apple Music, but he

1195
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 1: may be putting it out on band Camp in the

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01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: future as well. UH. For all of his links. Check

1197
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 1: out his link tree on his Instagram page. He is

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01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 1: again Pete Sasquax. That's p E t E s A

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01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 1: s q w a x. I reached out to him

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01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: and he gave us to go ahead to play part

1201
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 1: of sci Fu is um here. Uh. It has a

1202
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:55,439
Speaker 1: lot of great samples in it, including just a real

1203
01:05:55,560 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 1: gym of a sample from eliminates anyway anyway, some kind

1204
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: of costumes, comic books, comic books, comic books, comic books.

1205
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: We got thrown by, we got jay Man, we got

1206
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: to sign pau what Brad Ghetow we read then to

1207
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 1: get up Brain lay the rain, yellowbow yarrow, every ever brake,

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01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 1: but never a brain in the yellow anyway,