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Speaker 3: Oh what is going on? Happy Saturday to you. Week

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Speaker 3: zero ball is back and uh listen. I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: keep my complaining to a minimum because we are fired

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Speaker 3: up here. You know, we get actual football games account

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Speaker 3: but my.

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Speaker 4: Gosh, branch college football every year makes it so they

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Speaker 4: put it on a silver platter to complain.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: Now, we do get ranked versus ranked. We get number

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Speaker 3: seventeen k State against number twenty two Iowa State, and

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Speaker 3: that's fine, but bro, the rest of the lineup, what

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Speaker 3: are we doing here? This is a soft launch defined.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why I don't know why we can't

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Speaker 3: get at least one big boy I think we should

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Speaker 3: have at least one big boy game to start it off.

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Speaker 3: This is like the fourth of July is here, let's celebrate,

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Speaker 3: and all we have is sparklers. It's like we don't

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Speaker 3: have any real fire. Really, what are we doing here?

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Speaker 3: How do you feel about this slate?

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Speaker 4: Well, you're saying Idaho State taking on UNLV one o'clock

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Speaker 4: Western four o'clock Eastern time isn't really blown your hair back?

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Speaker 2: No, yn't it? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Or an acc PAC twelve showdown to the tune of

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Speaker 4: Stanford Hawaii?

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Speaker 2: Is it?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely? I mean in Hawaii? Are they even in the

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Speaker 4: PAC twelve. We're gonna have to get into some of

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Speaker 4: the conference realignment here in a little bit as well,

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Speaker 4: because it is confusing, to say the very least, where

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Speaker 4: some of these you know, Mountain West teams scrambled to

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Speaker 4: catch on. But yeah, listen, I gotta tell you I

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Speaker 4: am I am not disappointed because, like you said, it's something,

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Speaker 4: but it is a soft launch and I think week zero,

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Speaker 4: if you're gonna.

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Speaker 2: Do it, you gotta do it.

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Speaker 4: Like we have to wait another week to see Ohio

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Speaker 4: State take on take on Texas, and that doesn't seem fair,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. The commercials started about a

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Speaker 4: week and a half ago. I remember seeing the first

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Speaker 4: one where they were really really promoting it in earnest.

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Speaker 4: I'm with you, I feel like you should have at

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Speaker 4: least one flag pole tent pole. Hey, this is they

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Speaker 4: are going for the gusto with this matchup type game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no doubt about that. It's funny because it's

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Speaker 3: one of my favorite old school NFL drops, right, Like

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Speaker 3: you ever see crunch course, there's an old NFL films

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Speaker 3: type you know, highlight tape or whatever. But there's a

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Speaker 3: clip of Lawrence Taylor and I love it because Lawrence Taylor,

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Speaker 3: he's miked up. They're playing the Jets and you know,

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Speaker 3: like the old school football noises rich in like these

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Speaker 3: nineteen eighties videos where it's like, you know, like that

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Speaker 3: know that type Ben and Lawrence Taylor hits the quarterback

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Speaker 3: and he just looks down at him and he says this.

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Speaker 3: I think this is like the Week zero thing, right,

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Speaker 3: we gotta do better than come on. We got Hawaii

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Speaker 3: in action and we got fcs in action. But hey,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to drag out the complaining because ball

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Speaker 3: is back and we'll take what we get. We're starving

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Speaker 3: right now and these are kind of like stale ramen noodles.

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Speaker 3: But it's a meal. It's a meal, and we need food,

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Speaker 3: all right, so we'll take it.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: We're not gonna complain about this long term, but anything

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Speaker 3: else grab you You mentioned it too, rich where next week?

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Speaker 3: This is the opposite of a soft launch. You get

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Speaker 3: great games in each window, right, so you get Texas

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Speaker 3: noon kickoff, like it's amazing. That is a big noon

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Speaker 3: kickoff game number one versus number three, not in primetime.

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Speaker 3: It's just like, let's get after it. There's number nine

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Speaker 3: LSU at number four Clemson, and then the next night

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Speaker 3: number six Notre Dame against number ten Miami. Now that's

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Speaker 3: a slate. Those are three big boy games right there.

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Speaker 3: So the complaining will abb polutely cease after today when

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited for it, which which is to your point.

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Speaker 2: I think week.

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Speaker 4: Zero gosh, and I hate making this comparison because these

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Speaker 4: games matter. I mean, I'm not going to say any

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Speaker 4: of the teams we're going to see play in Week

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Speaker 4: zero will vie for a national championship, but technically any

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Speaker 4: of them can. Yeah, it is, it is, It is possible.

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Speaker 4: But Week zero does feel like the preseason. It it

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Speaker 4: feels it feels like these games are relatively inconsequential. However,

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Speaker 4: I will say this from a standpoint of wagering, from

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Speaker 4: a standpoint of putting a couple of dollars on a

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Speaker 4: game and having that that old feeling of like real

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Speaker 4: action after a six month respite of the NFL or

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Speaker 4: college football or any meaningful football games, that feels good.

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Speaker 2: You know, the fact that.

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Speaker 4: You can place a wager or like in game live

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Speaker 4: bet and have it actually matter.

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Speaker 2: That does feel good. You know what?

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Speaker 3: I had a flashback to a sitcom Saved by the Bell.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember that that old show? Yeah? I don't

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Speaker 3: know if I have the right drop, but it reminds

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Speaker 3: me of Jesse Spano. She was popping the caffeine pills.

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Speaker 3: Who's like one of like the serious episodes. But I

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Speaker 3: don't know, that's right, that's what you just said. It

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Speaker 3: reminds me of his Week zero. I'll try to find

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Speaker 3: the right spot. Here you go.

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Speaker 1: I gotta wash my time, no time, There's never any time.

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Speaker 3: I don't have time to study. I'll never get in

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Speaker 3: a Standford. I'll let everyone John.

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Speaker 2: I'm so confused.

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Speaker 1: Jesse, calm down, Okay, I just need these kills.

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Speaker 5: You mean you really are taking drugs?

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Speaker 2: I need them. There goes to Cafe pills.

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Speaker 3: Ye, you can't sing to night there it is. I'm

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Speaker 3: so excited.

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Speaker 2: That's me.

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Speaker 3: That's me in week zero, right, I'm so excited ball

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 3: And it just goes to hell?

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Speaker 2: And why would I do?

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Speaker 3: I just wait to week one? Why am I betting

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Speaker 3: on you know, Stanford Hawaii? And it just works out

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Speaker 4: It, like like like Jesse spanos, I'll never get into

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Speaker 3: That's right. Absolutely, Yeah, how about this, you get a

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Speaker 3: little more college football news because the Slate doesn't blow

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Speaker 3: your doors off, right, But how about the SEC. They're

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Speaker 3: finally gonna move to a nine game conference schedule beginning

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Speaker 3: next year in twenty twenty six. This to me is

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Speaker 3: like Mayweather finally fighting Pakiao. It is like the SEC

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Speaker 3: finally moves to nine conference games. They've been talking about

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Speaker 3: it forever. One of the interesting parts is each school

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Speaker 3: games will rotate. So some of these teams they get,

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Speaker 3: you know, the three constant games. Some teams get three

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Speaker 3: it's a little bit more favorable. So that's an interesting

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Speaker 3: tweak to it. But what are your thoughts on nine

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Speaker 3: game conference schedules beginning in the SEC? It's finally happening here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that.

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Speaker 4: I think that the three permanent annual opponents is one

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Speaker 4: sure that can be adjusted over a certain amount of years.

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Speaker 4: And here's the reason why we'll get back to the

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Speaker 4: nine games. Because I'm curious your thoughts too, I'll share mine.

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Speaker 4: But you remember when conference realignment was happening, and even

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Speaker 2: Well, you just solve that problem, you know. You make

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Speaker 4: If there are games of interest every year that fans

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Speaker 4: I think it's good for the fan bases, because, after all,

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Speaker 4: that's really what it's about. I know, it's about the

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Speaker 4: and the television contracts. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: all that goes away without interest, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: You think about the pomp and circumstance around college football,

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Speaker 4: as college football, we would we would be investing in

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Speaker 4: You know, the people, the fans investment in these college

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Speaker 4: having the ability to make sure that those three permanent

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Speaker 4: I think that's a really important fix as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. I think it makes a ton

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Speaker 3: but not everything has And to your point, the sec

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Speaker 3: having these three annual opponents, you just can't have a

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Speaker 3: Not in the cards in twenty twenty eight, like, no,

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Speaker 3: those games, those rivalries will be locked in, and I

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Speaker 3: think that's absolutely important. It's sad that we've lost as

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Speaker 3: There are plenty of rivalries that are still locked in.

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Speaker 3: There's just a tendency for us to dwell on what's

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Speaker 3: it's very important for the SEC to lock in those

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Speaker 3: big boy rivalry games. Something else that caught my attention,

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Speaker 6: How about this, He's completed just thirty eight percent of

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Speaker 6: of starts and Shane steichen is I guess maybe the

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Speaker 6: messaging just wasn't getting through because I edit a film

437
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Speaker 6: study on him, Like he's just he's not looking at

438
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Speaker 6: the entire field. He's locking in on one guy and

439
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Speaker 6: that's his guy. Where Daniel Jones, you know, say what

440
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Speaker 6: you want. He's a punch line at times, but at

441
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Speaker 6: least he has the basic quarterback ability to look to

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Speaker 6: his right.

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Speaker 5: It's not there.

444
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Speaker 6: All right, we're gonna come back to the left and

445
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Speaker 6: we're gonna make the throw there because that's where the

446
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Speaker 6: window is. Richardson has not demonstrated that ability at the

447
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Speaker 6: NFL level, and now we're in year three and you

448
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Speaker 6: just have to get there, and unfortunately he has it.

449
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing. That's why I go back to

450
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Speaker 3: I think they've they've been horrible for each other. The

451
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Speaker 3: Colts have been bad for Anthony Richardson. Richardson has been

452
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Speaker 3: bad for the Colts. This is GM Chris Pallard. He

453
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Speaker 3: told The Athletic that Richardson was drowning. He wishes the

454
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Speaker 3: Colts had let Richardson sit and learn. You think they

455
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Speaker 3: threw him in the deep end. He didn't know how

456
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Speaker 3: to swim, he didn't have college reps. He threw less

457
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Speaker 3: than four hundred passes. They started in week one his

458
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Speaker 3: rookie year. It's like, so, like what you're explaining, Jared,

459
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Speaker 3: Like that starts to you develop bad habits when you're

460
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Speaker 3: you're asked to do way more than you're ready to do,

461
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Speaker 3: absolutely and it just gets worse and it just starts

462
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Speaker 3: to snowball. And that's the thing. We saw it in

463
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Speaker 3: the preseason opener. He didn't see an unblocked free rusher

464
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Speaker 3: because he's looking at the other side of the field.

465
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Speaker 3: Like that's as basic as it gets for a quarterback,

466
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Speaker 3: especially an NFL quarterback, and he's just not on that

467
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Speaker 3: level yet. He's been banged up all the time. He

468
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Speaker 3: tapped out of a game because he was tired. He's

469
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Speaker 3: been bad for the Colts too. Like the numbers you

470
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Speaker 3: rattled off are staggering, Jared, He's got t Bow esque

471
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Speaker 3: NFL quarterback numbers.

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Speaker 2: That's brilliant.

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Speaker 5: Might be more accurate, honestly, he might. I have to

474
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Speaker 5: go look, but he might have been.

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Speaker 3: He might be. That's the other thing I'll say real

476
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Speaker 3: fast is what makes me think of is you hear

477
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Speaker 3: Cliff Kingsbury fades quite a bit, right, Cliff kings He

478
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Speaker 3: fades man, Yeah, with Kyler Murray. I didn't see him

479
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Speaker 3: fade with Jayden Daniels last year, you know. So I

480
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Speaker 3: think about that with Shane Steiken too. Before he became

481
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Speaker 3: the Colds head coach, he was an offensive coordinator. He

482
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Speaker 3: had immediate success with Justin Herbert and Jalen Hirts. He

483
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Speaker 3: didn't enjoy the same immediate success with old man Joe

484
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Speaker 3: Flacco and Anthony Richardson, who was just trying to figure

485
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Speaker 3: it out. That makes a big difference. You could play

486
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Speaker 3: that game with a lot of guys. Brian Dable with

487
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Speaker 3: the Giants, he's got Daniel Jones, not that sexy. When

488
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Speaker 3: he had Josh Allen with the Bills as their offensive coordinator.

489
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Speaker 3: Completely different ballgame. So I still haven't given up on

490
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Speaker 3: Shane Steiken, but man, he's still looking for a Justin

491
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Speaker 3: Herbert type quarterback. Have one right now at all.

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Speaker 4: Shane was on the staff when I was playing for

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Speaker 4: the Chargers in San Diego.

494
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Speaker 2: That's how long and deep his roots go back.

495
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 4: He was he he was with Frank Reich in San Diego.

496
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 4: He was on staff with Mike McCoy before Reike went

497
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Speaker 4: off to Philadelphia and then took the job with the

498
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Speaker 4: Colts before Steiken followed him. Like they they like that

499
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Speaker 4: type of coach, that offensive minded type of coach who

500
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Speaker 4: is going to work on quarterbacks. And he's on He's

501
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Speaker 4: on a pretty successful offensive coaching tree. Like the limbs

502
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Speaker 4: and the roots, the roots grow deep the limbs grow

503
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Speaker 4: long on that tree. He's he's a talented guy, and

504
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Speaker 4: can we put him in the same light as like

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Speaker 4: a Shanahan or McVeigh or you know, even a Kevin

506
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Speaker 4: O'Connell with his recent success as a head coach in Minnesota.

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Speaker 4: Maybe not no, but I do put him up there

508
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Speaker 4: as one of the better skull of talent at the

509
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Speaker 4: QB position in the league right now, and that's including

510
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Speaker 4: a lot of good company. So I don't think the

511
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Speaker 4: issue is with the head coach. When you are quarterback,

512
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 4: you were responsible not just for yourself, but you're also

513
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Speaker 4: responsible for the ten other guys you share the field with.

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Speaker 4: And so you pointed out that play where you didn't

515
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Speaker 4: see the blitz off the edge and got clocked during

516
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Speaker 4: the preseason. That is the most rudimentary type of stuff.

517
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Speaker 4: That is like day one install type stuff. He needed

518
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Speaker 4: to see it, and it was a huge bell weather

519
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Speaker 4: or canary in the coal mine as to what this

520
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 4: season would look like if they needed to rely on

521
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Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson. But here's where it gets really tricky and

522
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 4: really hairy. Those ten other guys are relying on you

523
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Speaker 4: to set the protection correctly and to make the proper

524
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Speaker 4: adjustments and to throw the football to the correct shoulder

525
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 4: on a route, and to not leave you high and

526
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 4: dry when a defender is collapsing on a route and

527
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 4: get you absolutely creamed. Like those decisions in those split seconds.

528
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 4: Those windows closed really fast in the NFL. And that's

529
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Speaker 4: the difference between being a playoff team and a team

530
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Speaker 4: with four wins, it is. Those margins are that thin

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Speaker 4: in the NFL. And so those are the reasons why

532
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Speaker 4: Daniel Jones has gotten the nod over Anthony Richardson because

533
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Speaker 4: he's playing better in those type margins.

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Speaker 6: I've got a great nugget on Stikeen to prove Rich's

535
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 6: point here. So even with Minshew, Flacco and Richardson over

536
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Speaker 6: the last two years, Steichen's script was so good that

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Speaker 6: the Colts still were top ten and most points scored

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Speaker 6: in the first quarter.

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Speaker 3: How about that?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, with those three quarterbacks, Steichen was still so good

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Speaker 6: at drawing up plays top ten in almost every category

542
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Speaker 6: EPA yards for play success or eight points per drive.

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Speaker 5: With those three guys.

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Speaker 6: Now, if you can do that with those three guys,

545
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Speaker 6: imagine what you can do with a real quarterback. Like

546
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Speaker 6: if the Colts ever do get a legit guy. Now,

547
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Speaker 6: Daniel Jones, it's gonna look a lot different. Richardson was

548
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 6: a number one in air yards last year, Daniel Jones

549
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 6: was thirty second. Like it's gonna be dank and dunk,

550
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Speaker 6: it's gonna be let's piece it together.

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Speaker 5: But here's the key.

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Speaker 2: You do have a I.

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Speaker 5: Would say improved offensive line.

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Speaker 2: Freeze.

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Speaker 6: Kelly Glawski are all gone, but I do think they

556
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 6: spent a lot on the offensive line, and they're young

557
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Speaker 6: in that category.

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Speaker 5: So I think they've got a chance to be good

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Speaker 5: up front.

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Speaker 6: And you know me, I love Tyler Warren and the

561
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 6: Colts had no production from their tight ends last year.

562
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Speaker 6: They actually targeted the tight end position at one of

563
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Speaker 6: the lowest rates in the league, and they never used,

564
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Speaker 6: you know, multiple tight ends and really utilize them in

565
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Speaker 6: the offense. So I think Tyler Warren will give a boost,

566
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Speaker 6: a little bit of a unicorn boost to this offense.

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Speaker 6: And I think Jones will be able to find him

568
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Speaker 6: because he's pretty good at completing. The problem is just

569
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Speaker 6: pushing the ball down the field. But to Richard's original point,

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Speaker 6: like I do like Shane Steike and a lot as

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Speaker 6: a coach. In fact, I think if they can figure

572
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Speaker 6: out a way to win the division this year, I

573
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Speaker 6: think Stiken's the coach of the year Canada.

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Speaker 5: You win this, listen.

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Speaker 6: That's like you ill to talk about Kevin O'Connell winning

576
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Speaker 6: the NFC North or winning the coach of the year

577
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 6: last year almost winning the NFC North with Sam Darnold.

578
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Speaker 5: If Shane Styken can figure.

579
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Speaker 6: Out a way to get into the playoffs or win

580
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,719
Speaker 6: the AFC South with Daniel Jones, I mean, just give

581
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Speaker 6: him the coach of the year right now.

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Speaker 3: It's an interesting point, right because Daniel Jones' reputation is

583
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 3: so bad. If he looks better with Shane Stike and

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Speaker 3: Shane Stikeen's gonna get a ton of credit for that.

585
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 3: So yeah, you're right, he's actually live in that market.

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00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 3: It's funny. I'll say one last thing is u you

587
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 3: know Shane Steiken after that preseason game where Richardson got hit,

588
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 3: didn't see the rusher, you know, messed up his finger.

589
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 3: You know, he could have done five minutes on that.

590
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 3: They were asking him like, hey, what happened on that play?

591
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 3: He could have been like, let me tell you what

592
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 3: happened on that play? Okay, right, but he just paraphrasing

593
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 3: is like it's five man protection. Like he basically knows better.

594
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 3: I don't know what to tell you, like he knows

595
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 3: better than what he did on that play. But you know,

596
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 3: we move forward with Daniel Jones here. It's not the

597
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones era, but it's the Daniel Jones twenty twenty

598
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 3: five magic carpet, right if you will.

599
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Speaker 2: But I did want to.

600
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Speaker 4: He's a band aid on a gushing wound, Daniel Jones,

601
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,479
Speaker 4: like he represents an adhesive managed. I will say this

602
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 4: really quick about Changstyke, and he got that five.

603
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 2: Minutes in trust me.

604
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 4: In front of the team, he unless it was, you know,

605
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 4: beating a dead horse at that point, right, I promise you.

606
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 4: In front of that team, he made an example of

607
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson and says, look, this just isnacceptable.

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Speaker 2: We need better.

609
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Speaker 3: I did want to. I wanted to bring some gifts

610
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 3: to you guys, right, like we're fired up. College football

611
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 3: is back soft launch week zero week w e ak

612
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 3: week week zero soft launch. But I was like, what

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Speaker 3: can I bring?

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Speaker 4: You?

615
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 3: Know, you don't want to show up to a party

616
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 3: and not have some chips or something to drink, right,

617
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 3: you don't want to be that type of person.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to.

620
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Speaker 3: Bring something to this party and I'm like, man, what

621
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Speaker 3: can I bring these guys, these Penn State guys. Oh,

622
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: I love dearly and you know what, a guy named

623
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 3: Paul finebaumb he kind of delivered something. I'm like, this

624
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 3: would make a great item for the party. Here on Countdown,

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00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:35,479
Speaker 3: presented by Bed MGM. Right, yeah, so this was on

626
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 3: first take. Paul fine Bomb not high on James Franklin

627
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 3: or the Nitney Lions. If you will check it out.

628
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Speaker 4: Paul, are you buying that Penn State can win the title?

629
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Speaker 2: I'm not to me.

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Speaker 9: It still has James Franklin and this sounds like a

631
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 9: low hanging fruit. But he has stole the coach and

632
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 9: I've seen him in too many situations, like last year

633
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 9: with a lead against Ohio State, like last year with

634
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 9: a lead against Notre Dame. I think ten points in

635
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 9: both cases and they ended up being the loser. And

636
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 9: he's top of the line coach, he's a top ten coach.

637
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 9: But until he wins, until he wins what I considered

638
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 9: to be the ultimate game, I can't buy it. And

639
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 9: I just would have to bet here in late August

640
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 9: that James Franklin will find some way to screw this

641
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,959
Speaker 9: season up, probably even in the National Championship game.

642
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 3: Hey, he's got him in the Natty, right.

643
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 5: That means they want at least one big game.

644
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you think?

645
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Speaker 4: Here's what I think. I think that have there been

646
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 4: over the course of time, you know, decisions whether it

647
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 4: be field goals or two point conversion tries or goal

648
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 4: line series, you know, play calls that I've completely disagreed with. Yeah,

649
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 4: And are those coaching decisions, Yeah, yeah they are. But

650
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 4: I mean, look, a coach can lose you a game,

651
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 4: but your players win you games.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

653
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Speaker 4: And there have been so many moments in those big

654
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Speaker 4: games where it's very clear that the decision that was

655
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 4: made that really cost the Nitney Lions an opportunity to

656
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Speaker 4: be amongst the elite names mentioned in that year's College

657
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 4: Football Review. It wasn't because of bad coaching. It was

658
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 4: because of bad decision making and key moments by players

659
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 4: who know better. I mean, the interception that really kind

660
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 4: of sealed the deal for the.

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00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:29,479
Speaker 2: Nittneys last year.

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00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 4: That's that's not because I mean James Franklin didn't let

663
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 4: it rip over the middle of the field. I mean,

664
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Speaker 4: he's situationally. Can you coach players up better so they

665
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 4: can handle the conditions better? Are they doing that at

666
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 4: Penn State? I happen to know they are coaching situational football,

667
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 4: so at a certain point, the accountability has to trickle

668
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 4: to the players. Now, is there a common denominator here? Yeah,

669
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Speaker 4: Coach Franklin's name is on all this, and I get that.

670
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 4: But is he a good recruiter and a good coach? Yeah,

671
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 4: that's also true too, So well, we'll see. I disagree

672
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 4: with Paul Finebaum. I don't I see a way where

673
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 4: this team can win a national title this year. They're

674
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 4: talented enough.

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00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 5: Here's what I'll say to Paul.

676
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 6: He's better than this. He's better than taking the low

677
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 6: hanging fruit narrative. That's the public narrative that everybody says

678
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 6: that big game. James Franklin can't win the big game.

679
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 6: They were underdogs in all of those games. He mentioned

680
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 6: all of them. I think the Notre Dame game was

681
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 6: a pick them, so maybe they should have won that one.

682
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 6: But really they were ahead and then Drew Aller throw

683
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 6: a really bad, really.

684
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 5: Bad interception in the fourth quarter. He also threw a

685
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 5: ball on a flat route on the goal line. I

686
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 5: was there. I was literally there.

687
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 6: I was like, you know, twenty yards away from the

688
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 6: play where it was a wide open flat route early

689
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 6: in the game, I think it was on the first

690
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 6: or the second drive, and he put it in the

691
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 6: running backs booty like he threw it in his butt.

692
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 6: I could have been thrown right to his chest, but

693
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 6: threw it in his butt. Then he had a wheel

694
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 6: route in the second half that he threw into the stands.

695
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 6: Drew Aller was the problem in the notre Ame game.

696
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 6: Drew Aller has been the problem for Penn State from

697
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 6: what I have been told. I'm sure are Penn State colleagues.

698
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 6: Rich and LeVar could probably back this up. He needs

699
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 6: to step up mentally, he needs to rise to the occasion.

700
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 6: But the James Franklin narrative needs to die. It is

701
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 6: not It is a false narrative. He is not big

702
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 6: game James. They've been underdogs in those games. Has he

703
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 6: risen his team to the level that needed to be

704
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 6: done to win the game? No, But this year he

705
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 6: has the best roster. He doesn't need to rise to

706
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 6: the occasion. His talent is already there. He just needs

707
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 6: to not underachieve is really the problem. Now, if he

708
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 6: falls short this year, I will listen to the narrative.

709
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 6: But last year the problem was Drew Aller was not

710
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Speaker 6: James Franklin.

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Speaker 3: Man, you guys, you Penn State guys. You guys are nauseating.

712
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest with you.

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00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: Deal.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing, man Like it might be a national narrative,

715
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 3: but it's a correct narrative. He's the constant. He's one

716
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 3: in eighteen against top five teams at Penn State. He's

717
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 3: one in ten against Ohio State. And he's had some

718
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 3: talented teams. I know this, good teams, good coaches, they win.

719
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 3: Hiss underdogs. I'm not buying though, Oh they were underdogs,

720
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 3: they had less talent. I don't care. There are less

721
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 3: talented teams that are underdogs that still win, and he hasn't.

722
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 3: So he is small game James until he wins big

723
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 3: otherwise that is fitting. That is a fitting description of

724
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 3: the man. And I will be in my Notre Dame

725
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 3: corner over here, talking smack like mind Bob is and

726
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 3: we'll just do it out like that. Hey, we've got

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Speaker 3: rich Roidberger, Penn State, All American Jared Smith, FSR betting analyst.

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Speaker 1: Check this out, Arlay letter.

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Speaker 3: Okay, the planter is here. We each have one selection.

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Speaker 3: We pull it together for a greater payout. Jared, we

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Speaker 3: start with you.

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Speaker 2: What do you like?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll go a little ball.

746
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 6: I know Week zero is not great, but we do

747
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 6: have a decent game here right out of the gate

748
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 6: of Kansas State, Iowa State, the Dublin Game. I think

749
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 6: it's a pop tarts themed game. I don't know, but

750
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 6: it is a rank versus ranked. It is two good

751
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 6: Big twelve teams, and I think I have a chance

752
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 6: to at least compete for the title this year. I

753
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 6: think Kansas State is a little bit better defensively. I

754
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 6: do not like the three three five stat that Iowa

755
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 6: State plays. I think Kansas State, even though they lost

756
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 6: DJ Giddens, they lost some offensive lineman. They can run

757
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 6: the ball. Ab Johnson is an elite rushing quarterback. I

758
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 6: think he's a dark horse Heisman probably not going to

759
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 6: win it, but a dark horse Heisman candidate. Iowa States

760
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 6: replacing the two NFL receivers. I like Rocke Beeck as

761
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 6: a quarterback for the Cyclones, but I think Case State's

762
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 6: got a little bit of an edge. We'll put them

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Speaker 6: on the money line to start the parlay, Kansas State

764
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 6: money line.

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Speaker 4: All right, give me Hawaii Stanford. I'm taking over the

766
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 4: ten points in the first quarter today. That's the nightcap

767
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 4: here in Week zero. I like Hawaii on the island,

768
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 4: scoring fast and scoring often. Timmy Chanks run and shoot

769
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 4: offense with his new quarterback getting his first career Day

770
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Speaker 4: one start, or I should say, week zero start. Last year,

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00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 4: in his first collegiate start, he had nearly five hundred

772
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 4: yards passing in zero interceptions. So give me the over

773
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Speaker 4: on the first quarter total.

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Speaker 3: All right, I'm taking the Fresno State Boldogs over here.

775
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 3: Plus fourteen and a half. Give me a minus a

776
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 3: dollar thirty. You know, Jalen Daniels is back, and I

777
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 3: hope he stays healthy. I really do a talented kid.

778
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 3: He will turn the ball over sometimes. And we get

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00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 3: an FCS two time national champion and now the head

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00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 3: coach of the Bulldogs here, So I'll take them. Hey,

781
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 3: Paul Reviews, roll forward, Oh what is going on? Happy

782
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 3: Saturday to you? And guess what ball is back? Maybe

783
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 3: we get actual games that count, regular season begins. It

784
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 3: is a soft launch in college football in week zero,

785
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 3: but it's here. It's here, and I'll keep my complaining

786
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 3: to a minimum. Here we got number twenty two Iowa

787
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 3: State against number seventeen Kansas State. Oh yes, in Dublin,

788
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 3: Ireland over there, we get ranked versus ranked. You know

789
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 3: this isn't the worst thing ever. First thing is on

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00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 3: Iowa State side. Rock O becked right, their quarterback. A

791
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 3: couple of his wide receivers got drafted, you know, second

792
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 3: round Jaden Higgins, third round Jalen Knowl. They're coincidentally teammates

793
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 3: now with the Houston Texans, but his leading receivers last year.

794
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 3: They're both with the Texans now, so it's reloading time.

795
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 3: They got a couple of transfers that they like a lot.

796
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Speaker 3: But I'm curious how rock O Beck looks in this

797
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 3: first game without Higgins and Nol. That's a big deal

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00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 3: for a quarterback readjusting to new wide receivers and losing

799
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Speaker 3: a couple of Day two picks. You know, you lose

800
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 3: a second and third rounder in the same draft and

801
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 3: got to reload. That's a lot to ask. So that's

802
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 3: one of the things out of my eye on. And

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00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 3: then Avery Johnson, right, not the transition defense. Avery Johnson,

804
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 3: the Kansas State quarterback. I got to meet Avery Johnson

805
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 3: at a UNLV game. You'd love that year. Yeah, he

806
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 3: was doing color commentary. He was awesome. He was really

807
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 3: cool with all the fans. But yeah, Avery Johnson, the

808
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 3: Kansas State quarterback a lot of talent, can create a

809
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 3: lot of plays with his legs, but can can Avery

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00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 3: Johnson look like the much better quarterback today against the Cyclone.

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00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 3: Cyclones didn't have much of a pass rush at all

812
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 3: last season, So if that's still the case, Avery Johnson

813
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 3: could cook in this game with his arm and his legs.

814
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 3: But we're waiting for Avery Johnson to really like put

815
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 3: it all together as the Kansas State quarterback. So this

816
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 3: is step one here today.

817
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think with a dual threat quarterback like Johnson,

818
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 4: you have a great opportunity to exploit some of the

819
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 4: new looks they're going to see from the Cyclones. So

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00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 4: I think Case State they're going to obviously script plays

821
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 4: for success in the passing game, but they're going to

822
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 4: talk to Avery Johnson about, Hey, when you see a

823
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,919
Speaker 4: lane to run, you take it, you know, because there's

824
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 4: easy five yard games out there, which sets you up

825
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 4: for easier conversions. There's first down markers three yards away

826
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 4: that you should run for instead of trusting your arm

827
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 4: in certain situations. And so I think we'll see some

828
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 4: of that. And then, just like you said in terms

829
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 4: of the other side of the coin, with Iowa State

830
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 4: rock O Beck, they were running a lot of two

831
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Speaker 4: and three tight end sets last year and then they

832
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 4: transitioned at a certain point to highlight the outside game.

833
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 4: They really obviously found something with those receivers you had mentioned,

834
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 4: so they might get back a little bit more to

835
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,479
Speaker 4: their roots and set up the passing game with more

836
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Speaker 4: of more big bodies.

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Speaker 2: On the field, so to speak.

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Speaker 4: So it'll be very interesting from a scheme fit how

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00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 4: Iowa State responds to the loss of two extremely talented

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Speaker 4: receivers on the outside.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Iowa States strength is definitely the quarterback.

842
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 5: He's very elusive.

843
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 6: I think their defense in the secondary is very strong,

844
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 6: but I don't like the match up here for the Cyclones.

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00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 5: To be fair, Iowa State took some money at.

847
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 6: Four and were down to three, so there are some

848
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 6: professional sharp betters in the market.

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Speaker 5: That do think Iowa State can keep this game close.

850
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 6: But once it got to three, we saw a little

851
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 6: bit of money come back on Kansas State at the

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00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 6: better number, and I saw a little bit of money

853
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 6: line love for the Wildcats also last night pushed it

854
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 6: up about ten cents, So we're kind of seeing professionals

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00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 6: play both sides of this. But if you want my

856
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 6: opinion on the matchup the Cyclones, again, they run a

857
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 6: defense which is designed to stop the pass.

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00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 5: It is a lighter box. They run a three to

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00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 5: three five.

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00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 6: It's a little bit unique, right, they only have six

861
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 6: guys in the box and they have five. They basically

862
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 6: run nickel and dime almost on every play, and they

863
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 6: try to fill holes and you know, confuse you in

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00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 6: the secondary. But they can be run on, which to

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00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 6: me means big game for Aver Johnson. Like I think

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Speaker 6: Avery Johnson, I think is anytime touchdown prop.

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Speaker 5: Is plus one ten ish.

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00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 6: I think that's a decent bet. I think he's gonna

869
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 6: you know, we hate We've talked about it on the show.

870
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 6: I hate betting rushing props for quarterbacks because of the sacks,

871
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 6: so I would stay away from that. But if you

872
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 6: can find a rushing attempts prop for Avery Johnson, I

873
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 6: would bet that to the over.

874
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 5: I think Kansas State wins this game. I really do.

875
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 6: I think Avery like I would rather have Avery Johnson

876
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 6: in a tight game than Rock go back. Even though

877
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 6: Beck has led some really tough comebacks in his career.

878
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 6: He's a tough guy quarterback. But I think the match

879
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 6: up here because of I alway say it's defense and

880
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 6: the way they run their lighter boxes. I think that

881
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 6: favors Kansas State's running game, especially Avery Johnson and his legs.

882
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 3: When are we gonna make this change in college football?

883
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 2: I don't know where.

884
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 3: So stupid, it's so stupid. Sack sack yardage counts against

885
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 3: the quarterback's rushing total. It's the dumbest thing ever. It

886
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 3: makes no sense at all. And by the way, peaking

887
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 3: at Avery Johnson's rushing yards, the prop is said at

888
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 3: fifty nine and a half yards high number for a

889
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 3: quarter It's absolutely a high number. You take a couple

890
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 3: of sacks. Yeah, there's a loss of seven. There's a

891
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 3: loss of nine. Good luck getting the sixty yards rushing.

892
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 3: That's not easy.

893
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 5: Now he could go eighty easily.

894
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 3: Easily.

895
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 6: Oh he has that kind of speed, But yeah, don't.

896
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 6: I don't think I bet the rushing prop because of

897
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 6: the sacks.

898
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 5: I hate that. I hate losing sacks.

899
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 3: And that's the thing too. I picked at rock O

900
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 3: Beck's rushing stats, right, and it's not close to what

901
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 3: Avery Johnson's is. But even for the yearly rushing yards,

902
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 3: you don't get a true representation of what these quarterbacks

903
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 3: are doing with their legs. Agreed, a lot of this

904
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 3: is sack yardage. This was what his freshman year at

905
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 3: at Iowa State, sixty two rushes for sixty three yards.

906
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 3: It's not because he can't run it all. Last year

907
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 3: roc Obecs had ninety eight attempts for three to eighteen, right,

908
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 3: So like that first year, it's not like he couldn't

909
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 3: run at all. It's just a bunch of sack yardage.

910
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 3: So you have no good idea or indication what it

911
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 3: could actually do. It's so ridiculous. Now they got to

912
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 3: change that immediately, but they just refuse to. It's crazy.

913
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's frustrating.

914
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 4: Look, I mean to put it, I guess bow on

915
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 4: this game. The Iowa State needed to do something about

916
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 4: their defense because I forgot how poor they were at

917
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 4: tackling and finishing plays last year. They ranked one hundred

918
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 4: twentieth nationally in PFS tackling grades last year. When you look,

919
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that tackling is an effort staff stat

920
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 4: but it is one of those things where guys are

921
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 4: either in the wrong completely wrong place, taking terrible angles,

922
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 4: or it's not something effort from an effort standpoint that's

923
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 4: being discussed or practice enough. When nobody's looking, when the

924
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 4: lights and the cameras aren't on, So they fixed that problem. Obviously,

925
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 4: they're switching things up in a major way defensively, but

926
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 4: a lot there for Case State to attack. I mean,

927
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 4: count on Avery Johnson in this rushing attack, factoring, count

928
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 4: on their running backs, and they've kind of got a

929
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 4: dual headed threat out of the backfield being highlighted here,

930
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 4: because that's what I would do first, when you're.

931
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 2: Running against a smaller.

932
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 4: Box that are trying to deceive you with a lot

933
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 4: of movement, gather up bodies, run a lot of zone

934
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 4: where guys are just sort of, you know, moving to

935
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 4: a gap as opposed to be responsible for men in

936
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 4: the blocking scheme and start and start creating some space

937
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 4: in the run game and control the clock. That's that

938
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,240
Speaker 4: would be my plan if I was Kansas State today.

939
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't.

940
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 6: I mean, have you ever played rich on a team

941
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 6: that runs the three three five in college football?

942
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 2: Like?

943
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 5: Have you played against it?

944
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 6: It's just it's such a unique blocking scheme because when

945
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 6: I think of college football more often than not, and

946
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 6: I guess maybe we've gotten away from it a little

947
00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 6: bit over the last few years because of the quarterback

948
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 6: and the spread offenses, and maybe that's why iowas they

949
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 6: implemented it.

950
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 5: They play in the Big.

951
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 6: Twelve with a lot of those spread cookie offenses, and

952
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 6: they're trying to shut down the pass. But man, you

953
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 6: could just the easiest thing to do, like the the

954
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 6: quickest point, you know, but or the quickest the you know,

955
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 6: direction between two points is a straight line, like I'm

956
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 6: just gonna hand the ball off. You've only got six

957
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 6: guys in the box, and I've got five offensive lineman

958
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 6: plus probably a full back. And if we run quarterback option,

959
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 6: then the running back could also be.

960
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 5: Used as a blocker.

961
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 6: I could have seven blockers against your six linemen and

962
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 6: your six guys in the box. That is a mismatch

963
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 6: every time running the ball, right.

964
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, it is, and it can be.

965
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 4: What I will say is it is a little bit

966
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 4: of a misnomer saying that the box is lighter as

967
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 4: a result of it being a three to three five defense,

968
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 4: because it's really only a three to three to five

969
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 4: in name, only one of those linebackers is going to

970
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 4: be up.

971
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 2: On the line of scrimmage.

972
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 4: He'll probably be in a stand up position, so you'll

973
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 4: see a four man front most of the time.

974
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 2: Then also, one of those quote unquote safeties.

975
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 4: He's going to play almost like a over position where

976
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 4: he plays in.

977
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 2: The box as well.

978
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 4: So you'll have a seven man box, which is getting

979
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 4: pretty far in the weeds for certain football fans. But

980
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 4: basically your front seven that they talk about defensively will

981
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 4: be intact.

982
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 2: They'll just be.

983
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 4: Smaller people, actually smaller people. So what they're going to

984
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,439
Speaker 4: try to do. What Iowa State is going to try

985
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,240
Speaker 4: to do, like all three three five teams, is defeat

986
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 4: your offensive scheme with movement. They're gonna send a lot

987
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 4: of defensive line stunts. They're going to be a blitz

988
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 4: heavy team this year. They're going to blitz constantly, and

989
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 4: when they do that, they'll have success against man blocking

990
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 4: schemes in the run game because I mean, as it's described,

991
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 4: I'm responsible for that guy in this blocking scheme, and

992
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 4: if he moves away, that can cause great deal of

993
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 4: confusion for our blocking scheme.

994
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 2: When you're running zone.

995
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 4: Like when you hear people say, hey, yeah, the running

996
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 4: back got a five yard game on that inside zone play, Well,

997
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 4: an inside zon't play. All it is is everybody stepping,

998
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 4: say to the right gap, the gap immediately to their

999
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 4: right and gathering whatever body ends up in that gap,

1000
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 4: whether it's at the first level on the defensive line,

1001
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 4: or it's at the second level at the linebacking level,

1002
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 4: or shoot, if it's a safety flying down to fill,

1003
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 4: you just blocked the guy that comes to that gap.

1004
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 4: And so against teams like three three five teams are

1005
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 4: teams that blitz or move a lot, there are ways

1006
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 4: to defeat that offensively, and Kansas State has to be

1007
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 4: ready for all that movement. So expect them to run

1008
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 4: a lot of zone schemes today if they can handle it,

1009
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 4: and if they do and they block it, well, it's

1010
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:39,919
Speaker 4: gonna be a long day for Iowa State.

1011
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 3: Great breakdown, anything else you guys are looking forward to

1012
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 3: again soft launch, you know, not judging that game, but

1013
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 3: really anything else that maybe an individual player.

1014
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 5: You got something UNLV today.

1015
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 6: I know it's Idaho State and I know the game

1016
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 6: is you know, going to be a blowout, but there's

1017
00:52:58,200 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 6: a lot of buzz here in town for UNLV.

1018
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 5: Mullen comes in.

1019
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 6: He's done a really good job recruiting and there is

1020
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 6: a lot of excitement around this program because he brings

1021
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 6: in a staff that I think is you know, kind

1022
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 6: of a power conference staff. You know with his experience,

1023
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 6: and Boise's a little bit down right. They lost a

1024
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 6: ton and there is a team from the group of

1025
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 6: five that's gonna make the playoff, And why not the

1026
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 6: winner of that UNLV Boise State game?

1027
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 5: Why not? You know, the the Rebels, you know sneak in.

1028
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 5: So you know, just keep an.

1029
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 6: Eye out for UNLV this year. I might be on

1030
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 6: him today against Idoh State. But I think there is

1031
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 6: a lot of excitement. Maybe it's a little biased here

1032
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 6: in my new hometown in Vegas, but there is. Mullins

1033
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 6: brought a lot of buzz here in town to this team.

1034
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 3: By the way, you're saying, you know, he's done a

1035
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 3: good job recruiting, that's a common way to phrase it.

1036
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 3: Do you think it's ever gonna catch on? Like this

1037
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 3: coach has done a good job portaling. You think that's

1038
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 3: gonna be a right?

1039
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 6: I think retaining now it's the hardest thing to do

1040
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 6: these days. This coach has done a good job not

1041
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 6: having all of his players leave after one year.

1042
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1043
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking forward to Jaylen Daniels. You know, the

1044
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 3: Kansas quarterback been incredibly banged up. I'm happy he's back.

1045
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 3: I hope he remains healthy. But I mean, Rich, you

1046
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 3: know this better than any of us on this show.

1047
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 3: When you're going through injury after injury after injury and

1048
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 3: the road to getting back on the field. It's been

1049
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 3: a long road for Jayalen Daniels. So you know, against

1050
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 3: Fresno State today, I'm excited to see him play. He's

1051
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 3: an exciting player. You know, he can create a lot

1052
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 3: with his legs, throwing it all over the place. So

1053
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 3: he's excitable, and I hope he remains upright, man. I

1054
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 3: hope he's blessed with good health.

1055
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 4: Finally, I'm mainly excited, and yeah, you're absolutely right about

1056
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 4: health and those issues. When you are unhealthy and it's

1057
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 4: a hindrance to your performance, it's so hard because, I mean,

1058
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 4: it destroys every part of your game, you know, and confidence,

1059
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 4: the mental part of it being probably the most important.

1060
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 4: But the one thing I'm looking most forward to, gentlemen,

1061
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 4: and this happens every year Week zero is some head

1062
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 4: coach putting his foot in his mouth.

1063
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 2: There's going to.

1064
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 4: Be head coach interviews a week out from their Week

1065
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 4: one rivalry showdowns or whatever it is, or the start

1066
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 4: of the season. Who's gonna say something about their conference,

1067
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 4: or say something about football scheduling, or say something about

1068
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 4: the opponent they have coming up on their schedule, or

1069
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 4: say something about their week one opponent that is going

1070
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 4: to cause a.

1071
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 2: Small brush fire across social media today.

1072
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 4: Mark my words, we are ours away from this happening.

1073
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 2: It happens every single year.

1074
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 5: We had odds on who it's going to be. That's

1075
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 5: the big question. Do you think it's going to be

1076
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 5: someone who's playing today or someone.

1077
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,919
Speaker 6: Who is not playing today that gets a mic put

1078
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 6: in their face by some other reporter somewhere else.

1079
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 3: What if it's our guy James Franklin and says your

1080
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 3: small game nickname right here.

1081
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 6: You know what, they don't play anyone for the next

1082
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 6: three weeks. So they don't play. They play a lot

1083
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 6: of small games over the next three weeks. I think

1084
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 6: it's Nevada. I think it's FIU. I mean we don't

1085
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,360
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Speaker 2: Follow the money, real good money. That's right.

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Speaker 3: Welcome our good friend Seamus McGee, team lead of sports

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Speaker 3: trading at BETMGM. All right, Jeamus ball is back. It's

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Speaker 3: a week zero soft launch, I say. But I'll tell

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Speaker 3: you what. There are some seamous candidates here, Idaho State,

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Speaker 3: Sam Houston plus the points. Anything standing out to you?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, really appetizing slate Week zero here, you guys hit

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00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 10: the nail on the head. A lot of good ones

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Speaker 10: out here. But wait, has my eye is Idaho State

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Speaker 10: first half plus seventeen and a half?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 11: Numbers UNLV?

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Speaker 10: Did I mean they've got this spreads movie about like

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Speaker 10: five points?

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Speaker 11: I think off the open for the full game.

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Speaker 10: But you know UNLV's gonna be trying out both QB's

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Speaker 10: Calandria and Origin I today, and I just worry about

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Speaker 10: what that does to a rhythm of an offense early on,

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Speaker 10: Like if they're gonna be up, are they just going

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Speaker 10: to steam roll with both guys and cover seventeen and

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Speaker 10: a half. I'll take Idaho State with that first half

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Speaker 10: point spread.

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Speaker 5: You just talked me off of giving out UNLV for

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Speaker 5: the full game.

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Speaker 11: In full game, I think it's fine. Like I think

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00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 11: they could by the second half. I think they'll have

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Speaker 11: an idea, okay, like, yeah, we figured it out now

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00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 11: they might lay it on thick in the second half.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I kind of like this UNLV team this year.

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Speaker 6: But maybe I'm looking at it through Vegas color glasses,

1142
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 6: which is very fair to say. All right, in general,

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00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 6: Week zero obviously isn't going to get all the attention.

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00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 6: Have you started to see a lot of handle increase

1145
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Speaker 6: right now for Week one?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 6: When does the college football season really begin for the betters?

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Speaker 6: Are you seeing a lot of action today on let's

1149
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 6: say the Iowa State Kansas State game early? I know

1150
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 6: we have Kansas playing later today, you get the Hawaii

1151
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 6: game late night? Or is this kind of an afterthought

1152
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Speaker 6: until we get the main event starting next week?

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Speaker 10: I mean, definitely the Dublin game gets a big handle

1154
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 10: like this is gonna be It's usually one of our

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Speaker 10: bigger gebet games a year, just because it is the

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Speaker 10: first game, it's at noon, and we're lucky enough this

1157
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Speaker 10: year we do have a we do have a ranked

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Speaker 10: matchup thanks to the the AP speaking Iowa stayed in

1159
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Speaker 10: there under the belt, but it's gonna be I think

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Speaker 10: it's gonna be really good handled today this week. But

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Speaker 10: we are starting to see some money come in on

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00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 10: you know, the Texas, Ohio States of next week, Clemson,

1163
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Speaker 10: LSU is starting to trickle in. So people are definitely

1164
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Speaker 10: opening up looking forward to a season.

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Speaker 4: Usually Hawaii is involved in week zero. It's kind of

1166
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 4: become a thing when I couldn't keep my hands off it.

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Speaker 4: I like the first quarter over for the total it

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Speaker 4: was at ten when we spoke about this during the

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Speaker 4: parlay platter, Shamus. But teams going to Hawaii week zero

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Speaker 4: or week one, does that affect the handicap at all?

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Speaker 2: Or what would you say in general is the consensus?

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Speaker 4: Are those hands off games for you or those ones

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01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 4: you could dig in and you can find angles on.

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Speaker 10: I've almost gotten to a point personally where I look

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Speaker 10: to fade Hawaii week zero or week one just because

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Speaker 10: I feel like everyone that's Hawaii, every single person is

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Speaker 10: betting Hawaii the first game of the season at home.

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Speaker 11: Like I think a couple of years.

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Speaker 10: Ago, there was a trend going around like, oh, they

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01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 10: cover like the last twenty years week zero against like

1181
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 10: specific teams and it's gonna be the same today. I

1182
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Speaker 10: mean everyone's on Stanford, sharps pros on Hawaii. Excuse me,

1183
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 10: whether it's sharpshare recreational betters. This line open Stanford minus

1184
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 10: two and a half, it got be through zero in.

1185
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 10: Now Hawaii's minus two and a half and the money

1186
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 10: keeps pouring in on Hawaii.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 4: Interesting, that's why he stayed away from the side and

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Speaker 4: I picked the total because, like you, was a little

1190
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Speaker 4: reticin there. But it's interesting, man, that travel is for real,

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Speaker 4: even for a West Coast team.

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01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no doubt.

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01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 11: You see it. Yeah, you see it every year with

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Speaker 11: just like the you know, the island time and whatnot.

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Speaker 3: All right, Seamus, there's a basketball story that caught my

1196
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 3: attention and I wanted to throw it your way. Where

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01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 3: Malik Beasley right last with the Detroit Pistons, he was

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01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 3: facing a federal gambling investigation and he's off the hook,

1199
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Speaker 3: no longer a target. And we've seen the videos, right

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01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 3: there was basically a highlight tape of all these shady

1201
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 3: plays from Malik Beasley where you know, it'll take the

1202
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 3: ball from one end of the court to the other

1203
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 3: in the final seconds to cover like an eight and

1204
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 3: a half point spread or whatever it was. You're like,

1205
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 3: that seems kind of odd right there. So which do

1206
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 3: you think is more likely to be the case? Is

1207
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Speaker 3: this where he's just totally innocent there was some smoke

1208
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 3: but no fire, or is this kind of like the

1209
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 3: old line from Denzel in Training Day where he says,

1210
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 3: it's not what you know, it's what you can prove.

1211
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 3: Is it possible that Malik Beasley or some other athlete

1212
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 3: was involved in something a little sketchy, but it's just

1213
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 3: hard to prove. What do you think is more likely here?

1214
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Speaker 10: I I really don't want to speculate on this right now,

1215
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 10: but it's it is interesting. I mean, you do have

1216
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 10: to prove a lot. I mean to get like, it's

1217
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 10: a very serious accusation for a professional basketball player to

1218
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 10: be accused of what he has been. But yeah, I'm

1219
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Speaker 10: happy for him that he's you know, he's queered for now,

1220
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 10: I suppose, but uh yeah, we'll see. I mean, I

1221
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 10: I don't want to get into like any I'm not

1222
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 10: one hundred percent on a lot of the details that

1223
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 10: went into his so I don't expect it like too

1224
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 10: much about whether I think he got off easier or not?

1225
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Speaker 6: Seamus, what's your what's your best like hottest take for

1226
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 6: the college football season. I mean we were talking about

1227
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 6: the James Franklin stuff earlier out Penn State, you know

1228
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 6: is overrated. Is there a team at the top that

1229
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Speaker 6: is maybe a little bit too up there with the rankings.

1230
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 6: Is there a team off the radar that you think

1231
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 6: is going to make a splash, like give me.

1232
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 5: A surprise for the college football campaign.

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01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 11: I guess they'll go one good, one bad. I think

1234
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 11: my Indiana this year.

1235
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 10: I keep going back to the well of this team

1236
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 10: every year, but I think this is the I think

1237
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 10: it's Nebraska. I think it's year two, Riola year three

1238
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 10: Matt rule. Even more important for this Nebraska program. The

1239
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 10: schedule favors them a little bit here. The toughest game

1240
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 10: is Ohio State, but they get that at home. And

1241
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 10: if they're four and oh three and zer going into

1242
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 10: that game, you can bet we'll have game Day in Lincoln.

1243
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 11: That place is going to be going nuts.

1244
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 10: I think by break the door down this year, I

1245
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 10: think they can sneak into the playoffs. As far as

1246
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 10: a team at the top, they're not really at the top,

1247
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 10: but like everyone I feel like I haven't heard a

1248
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 10: bad thing about South Carolina and Leonora Sellers all off.

1249
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 3: M yeah, and they're gonna.

1250
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 11: Go seven and five again. I don't know why.

1251
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 10: Anyone wastes breath on Shane Biaber in South Carolina.

1252
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 11: It would we know exactly what we're going to get.

1253
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 10: I feel like I watched a different South Carolina team

1254
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:18,919
Speaker 10: last year, Like, yeah, they.

1255
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 11: Almost beat LSU, they almost beat Alabama, but.

1256
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 10: They never do like they just never do this. I

1257
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 10: walked away like maybe one time, like super impressed with

1258
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 10: Sellers that he's a freak athlete. But I just don't

1259
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 10: see any of this sort of height that this team gets.

1260
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 10: Maybe a wall of no one who's saying this, But

1261
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 10: I I feel like everyone's been high on them this year.

1262
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:44,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's true.

1263
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 4: I haven't heard any bad press to your point, Hey,

1264
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 4: to help us settle a debate, Seavens thirty seconds or last,

1265
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 4: tell us why or why not Penn State can win

1266
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 4: a national title this.

1267
01:04:57,960 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 11: It is the most experienced team in the country.

1268
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Speaker 10: I think even with losing some of the guys on defense,

1269
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 10: they're still dat. I mean, I think they're going to

1270
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 10: be really good. They have the alur most experienced quarterback

1271
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 10: back there. You have a great running back room. I mean,

1272
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 10: they're they're going against the playoffs. It's just how far

1273
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 10: they can go.

1274
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it's a good argument. They're they're experienced

1275
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 3: in losing big games too. But here the out numbered

1276
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 3: two to one with the Penn State Hawks. On this show,

1277
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 3: you're playing in the crowd.

1278
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 12: Get it?

1279
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 3: Uh time for the Seamous Special? What do you have

1280
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,959
Speaker 3: for a Seamus? Are you going with the first half

1281
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 3: line or something else there?

1282
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 2: I do like that.

1283
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 10: I do love. I really want to take Kansas State here,

1284
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 10: but I feel like that'd be like everyone's taking Kansas

1285
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 10: State at this game at noon. It feels like we're

1286
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 10: gonna need the cyclones here. But you know, I gotta

1287
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 10: go to another FCS game. Give me Portland State getting

1288
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 10: fifteen and a half at home against Carlton State, the

1289
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 10: big road trip for Tarleton here week zero. I'll take

1290
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 10: Portland State here.

1291
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 3: That is amazing, man. I love that, love that selection,

1292
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 3: just based on principle alone. You know that's great? All right, Seamus,

1293
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 3: good stuff as always, buddy, Hope you have a great

1294
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 3: day and enjoy the ball. It's back finally.

1295
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 11: Yeah, enjoy the games, guys, Happy week zero.

1296
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, same to you.

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Speaker 3: Seamus McGee, team lead of sports Trading at BETMGM. Great

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Speaker 3: stuff as always. How about his selection of Nebraska. You know,

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Speaker 3: at the time of the hour, we'll do our five

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Speaker 3: futures bets, right, So you could look at season win totals,

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Speaker 3: you could look at all different types of markets, to

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Speaker 3: win the conference, to win the division, whether it's NFL,

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Speaker 3: college football, all kinds of If it's a future it's

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Speaker 3: on the betting menu. What do you think about Nebraska

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Speaker 3: and if you're thinking about a season win total or

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Speaker 3: what they're gonna do, you think major damage here?

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, it's it's all a quarterback head coach league.

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Speaker 2: It's the same one thing is the NFL.

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Speaker 4: When you have a quality quarterback and equality head coach

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Speaker 4: and they are progressing well together, like Dylan Rayola and

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Speaker 4: Matt Rule, then you have an opportunity to do some

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Speaker 4: real damage.

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Speaker 2: I think this could be a big year for Nebraska.

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Speaker 4: It just it really comes up. Look, we know Rule

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Speaker 4: can coach at this level. It just comes down to

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Speaker 4: can Rayola make that next big jump?

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Speaker 2: We'll see. I like it.

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Speaker 6: I think the schedule favors them. They get Michigan at home.

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Speaker 6: They don't have to they go to Penn State, but

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Speaker 6: they don't have to play Ohio State. Their toughest game

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Speaker 6: is at Penn State. That's their toughest game of the year.

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Speaker 6: Their non conferences is a cinch since the Akron Houston Christian.

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Speaker 6: Then they play Michigan at home. Then they get to

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Speaker 6: buy their toughest road games this year other than at

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Speaker 6: Penn State. They only have to go out west once

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Speaker 6: to Ucla. They get USC at home. I mean, if

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Speaker 6: they're win total, I think it's eight and a half,

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Speaker 6: it might be seven and a half. If it's seven

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Speaker 6: and a half, love the over. If it's eight and

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Speaker 6: a half, I still think they can win nine games.

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Speaker 6: The question is can they get into the playoff at

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Speaker 6: nine wins? That would be the more interesting thing. Right now,

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Speaker 6: let me see them.

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Speaker 3: Seven and a half.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you gotta bet. Now you're laying a lot

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Speaker 5: of juice there.

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Speaker 6: But I mean, in reality, they're probably only dogs at

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Speaker 6: Penn State. Maybe they're dog to Michigan, but I think

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Speaker 6: with Underwood starting, that'll be I think Bryce Underwood's first

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Speaker 6: big ten game. You gotta imagine in Lincoln, Nebraska is

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Speaker 6: gonna be favored in that game. They might only be

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Speaker 6: dogs in one game all year at Penn.

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Speaker 5: State, by the way, against USC.

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Speaker 3: At the risk of sounding like I'm just bashing Penn

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Speaker 3: State again, seriously, it's a real question. I I don't

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Speaker 3: mean you, but I think we get into this habit

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Speaker 3: because James Franklin has been so good in so many games,

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Speaker 3: and I mean this is positive. There's no great way

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Speaker 3: to say this where it's gonna be a backheaded compliment

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Speaker 3: at some stage where he's lost a lot of big games.

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Speaker 3: But I'm really trying to get to I think we

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Speaker 3: go into a season and we circle the big games.

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Speaker 3: Are they gonna beat Oregon at home? Are they gonna

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Speaker 3: finally beat Ohio State on the road? But what about

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Speaker 3: the other games that we kind of take for granted.

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Speaker 3: Is there a Nebraska that you think could reasonably sneak

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Speaker 3: up on them? Is there any other you know, potential

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Speaker 3: bear trap on the schedule outside of those big games

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Speaker 3: you mean for Penn State, for Pe. Yeah, it's all

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. They're hosting Nebraska. Could Nebraska be one of

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Speaker 3: those teams ye sneak up? Absolutely? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely? And Penn State also plays Oregon at home in

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Speaker 6: a whiteout game. Pence, they plays three really tough games

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Speaker 6: this year. I think Nebraska is one tough game. Obviously

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Speaker 6: at Ohio State is the toughest game, and then Oregon

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Speaker 6: at home.

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Speaker 5: I mean they could go nine and three. They absolutely

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Speaker 5: could go nine and three.

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Speaker 4: I mean if they do, oh gosh, if they yeah,

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Speaker 4: and I'm not saying if they will or they won't,

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Speaker 4: but West Coast travel I think they go to each

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Speaker 4: LA this year.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's there's there's weird things that happen, and.

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Speaker 4: We we've seen this a million times where you know,

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Speaker 4: a Michigan that has no business hanging with the big

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Speaker 4: boys in the Big Ten toward the end of the

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Speaker 4: season last year steals a win.

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Speaker 2: It's it's crazy. College football is my favorite sport.

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Speaker 4: I and it's it's really flipped because it was the

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Speaker 4: NFL for a long time, but in terms of sports

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01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 4: leagues to follow it and it's because of it's because

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Speaker 4: of that factor where you're still dealing with kids who

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Speaker 4: I like to always say this line, like some of

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Speaker 4: these quarterbacks who are playing for billion dollar sports programs

1385
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 4: are like months away from the last time they were

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Speaker 4: grounded by their parents, you know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 4: it's it's kind of crazy when you think about the

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Speaker 4: level of responsibility that is being placed in the hands

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Speaker 4: of literal children.

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Speaker 2: But but that's but that's the sports world.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's even younger, excuse younger with soccer internationally,

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Speaker 4: Like some of these kids on these these European professional teams,

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Speaker 4: they're the recruitment starts at the club level at like

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Speaker 4: sixteen years old. I mean, they're fully paid professional players

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Speaker 4: where enormous amounts are gambled on their wins and losses

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Speaker 4: and their stat lines. So, I mean, it's it's not

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Speaker 4: unique to America. It's just it's just funny when you

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Speaker 4: think about the volatility of the sport and it's it's

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Speaker 4: really Yeah. So I mean, to answer your question more succinctly,

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Speaker 4: there's absolutely bear traps on the schedule that we're not seeing.

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Speaker 6: I'll give you another one, and Rich I know you

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Speaker 6: know this one because this place has been a house

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Speaker 6: of horrors for us over the years. It's freaking Iowa City.

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Speaker 6: They have to go to Iowa City in the middle October. Oh,

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Speaker 6: weird things happen at Kinnick Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Right, rich yep, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I experienced that firsthand.

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Speaker 3: By the way, how about the measure Seamus McGee samous

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Speaker 3: very measured with the Malik Beasley thing right there.

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Speaker 6: Watch, he's in a tough spot because of his job.

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Speaker 6: He can't really say what he's thinking.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 3: You read between the lines, you know, and it's kind

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Speaker 3: of like this freaking guy, are you kidding me? And

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01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 3: that's the vibe guy, get the same.

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Speaker 2: That Brian we We I talked.

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Speaker 5: We exchanged a lot of effects messages.

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Speaker 10: He is.

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01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:25,679
Speaker 5: He is as opinionated as it gets on these matters.

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01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 5: He just is being a professional here.

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Speaker 3: Well, the story with Malik Beasley, it was with the

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01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 3: Detroit Pistons last last year, great season, right, he made

1422
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 3: all these three pointers. He was one tray away from

1423
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 3: having the most three pointers in the NBA last season.

1424
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Speaker 3: That's how well he did. It was only Anthony uh,

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01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,520
Speaker 3: it was only Ants from the the Timberwolves.

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Speaker 11: Right.

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Speaker 3: He's the only guy who had more three pointers than

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Speaker 3: Malik Beasley. It's pretty crazy. That's Anthony, yeah, man, And

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Speaker 3: you don't think of him as a three point shooter,

1430
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 3: but lit it up. But anyway, Beasley, he made three

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Speaker 3: hundred and nineteen three pointers last season, and then all

1432
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Speaker 3: of a sudden, he's the focus of a federal gambling investigation.

1433
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 3: The feds are all over him from two seasons ago

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Speaker 3: when he was with the Bucks.

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Speaker 2: There was some.

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01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 3: Shady details, some weird swings in the betting market and

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Speaker 3: all of that, and so all of a sudden, he's

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Speaker 3: facing this investigation. Now he's no longer a target. He's

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01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 3: off the hook right now, and it's like, wow, okay,

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Speaker 3: So if you look at the dollars and cents, the

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01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 3: Pistons were looking to offer him a three year, forty

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Speaker 3: two million dollar contract, and now as a result of

1443
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 3: the Piston signed Kris Lavert to the full mid level exception.

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01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 3: That means the max they can sign Beasley for is

1445
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 3: seven point two million this season. So he went from

1446
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 3: being offered fourteen million per season to now only seven

1447
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 3: million dollars per season. It's half of what he could

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01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 3: have made. There's some other teams that have more cash

1449
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 3: to spend. But where he ends up we'll find out.

1450
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 3: But what a random story the timing of it, where

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01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 3: he's on the cusp of signing a free agent deal

1452
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 3: with the Pistons, all of a sudden, there's this gambling investigation.

1453
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 3: The Pistons and all these other teams are like, whoa,

1454
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 3: let's see where this goes. No contract yet, and now

1455
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 3: he's been cleared and the market is completely different. Now

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01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 3: it's a crazy story.

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01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:25,600
Speaker 2: It really is.

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01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 4: It's unfortunate that these stories seem to be popping up

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01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 4: more often.

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01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,640
Speaker 2: But this is something that I know that I've commented on.

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01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 4: And you guys, we've spoken about it many times on

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01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 4: this show already, but it bears repeating that when you

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01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 4: have a closer eye paying attention to these infractions, you're

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Speaker 4: gonna find more of them. It's like, I mean, the

1465
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 4: comparison I made a couple of weeks back was if

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01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 4: everybody speeds on a road, but there's no cop to

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01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 4: register whether or not people are abiding by the speed limit.

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01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 4: Is anybody speeding, Well, the answer is obviously yes, but

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Speaker 4: nobody's getting caught for it.

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Speaker 2: As soon as you put a speed.

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Speaker 4: Gun on that road, you're gonna start seeing the tickets

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Speaker 4: increase exponentially. And that's what's happened with this. There's a

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Speaker 4: closer eye, a closer filtration system being placed on these

1474
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 4: athletes who may or may not be partaking in some

1475
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 4: illicit activity and so you're gonna catch.

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01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 2: More of them. That's just what it is.

1477
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 4: If you sit in the backyard for long enough and

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01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 4: you say, hey, you know, there aren't so many bugs out,

1479
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 4: but then you put out a bugs apper in every

1480
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 4: three seconds you hear the thing go off, you it

1481
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 4: might change your opinion on how many bugs.

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01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 2: Are in the backyard. It's just the way this works.

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01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:47,599
Speaker 4: And so we're going through that period of time where

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01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 4: I think, you know, in terms of the infractions, we're

1485
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 4: going to see a bunch of them and then it's

1486
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 4: gonna slow down. But we're in that time where we're

1487
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 4: going to catch a bunch of speeders on the road,

1488
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 4: and easily it felt like you was easily going to

1489
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Speaker 4: be one of them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just The last thing I'll say is it

1491
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 3: makes me wonder if there are any athletes that are

1492
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 3: savvy enough to get away with this stuff.

1493
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 2: You know.

1494
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 3: It's like you ever see the movie with Denzel American Gangster.

1495
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 3: Where's a part in the movie where he's like, no

1496
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 3: one talks to me on the phone. Everyone talks to Huey, Huey,

1497
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 3: you talk to me, all right, Like we're not doing

1498
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 3: this on the phone. Is it Maybe there's not a

1499
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 3: telegram chat like you know on John tay Porter's phone

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01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 3: with Malik Beasley and he said he tells someone, Hey,

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01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 3: here's what's gonna happen. Here's right, Like, is it possible? Absolutely,

1502
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 3: it's possible. We just look at a lot of these

1503
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 3: athletes as these these dudes that make these stupid decisions

1504
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 3: and don't get away with it. But there's got to

1505
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 3: be someone somewhere I would bet that is giving inside

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01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 3: information and not getting busted for it. You guys think

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01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 3: that's that's the case here. It's certainly possible, I think

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01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 3: hundred percent do Yeah, it's hard to prove one.

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01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 4: I mean, look ask any college professor whether or not

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Speaker 2: This prop it up player plays.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Jared, we start with you prop betscalore with something

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Speaker 3: you like.

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Speaker 6: Well, the Avery Johnson rushing prop fifty nine and a

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01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 6: half yards. We've already discussed how much we hate rushing

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01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 6: yard props for quarterbacks because of the sack element. Last

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01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 6: year he did face Iowa State, it was on the road,

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01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 6: it was state side late in the year. He had

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01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:21,640
Speaker 6: sixty four yards rushing, no touchdowns, and he took a

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01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 6: sack in that game too, So I think it's fair

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01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 6: to say that he can go over that prop. But

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Speaker 6: I think he just scores a touchdown in this game.

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01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:29,280
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Speaker 6: I did see some evan odds out there elsewhere in

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01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:34,720
Speaker 6: the market, but I think Avery Johnson finds the end zone.

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01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:36,799
Speaker 5: I think the running game is going to be prevalent

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01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 5: for Kansas State today.

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Speaker 6: So I'll go Avery Johnson anytime touchdown over at bet

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01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 6: MGM minus one oh five.

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Speaker 2: Okay, cool. I'm also staying in the same game.

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Speaker 4: On a rushing prop, Iowa States running back Carson Hanson

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01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 4: sixty plus rushing yards also about even odds here. I

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01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 4: really really like Hiowa States rushing attack from a year ago.

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01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 2: I really like Hanson. He was like a five yard

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01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 2: per Carrie rusher a year ago.

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Speaker 4: And even though k State can be stingy on the ground,

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Speaker 4: I think this game in general favors the run game.

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01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 4: It's going to be a little bit cooler out there

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01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 4: in Ireland. You're going to have travel weary teams looking

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01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 4: to rely on the rushing attack. So give me Carson

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01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 4: Hanson plus sixty rushing yards.

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Speaker 2: In this one.

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Speaker 3: You know, I do like to bet Chelsea Gray from

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Speaker 3: time to time and pick her and prop it up,

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Speaker 3: but I might save that for the end of the show.

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Speaker 3: Let's keep a college football right here for prop it up.

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01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 3: I'll stick with the same game and along the same lines.

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01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 3: Is what you guys are thinking here. It might be

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01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 3: a collective effort right here, but looking at Avery Johnson

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01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:47,599
Speaker 3: under two hundred and eight and a half passing yards,

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01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 3: so we can't exceed too well. Yeah, for a couple

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01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 3: of reasons, you guys are talking about right, the three

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01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 3: three five defense, it's lends itself more towards rushing. I

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01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,679
Speaker 3: think K State's going to have success running the football.

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01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 3: Why are you gonna throw into a you know, like

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Speaker 3: a five man secondary a lot of times? I don't

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Speaker 3: think they're gonna do that, just over and over and

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Speaker 3: over and over again. And also, you know, I just

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Speaker 3: think that the weather and all that, you know, factors out.

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Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be a lower passing game for

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Speaker 3: Avery Johnson. What is going on? Happy Saturday to you

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Speaker 3: That's a lot of picks right there. We'll do that

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Speaker 3: the futures. So we're looking at anything that's a futures bet.

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01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 3: It could be as simple as a season win total

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01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 3: NFL or college football. Do you like the over the under?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: It could be college football, playoff odds, super Bowl odds,

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Speaker 3: season player props. Right, anything that you like that's a

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Speaker 3: future is fair freaking game. So we start with you,

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Speaker 3: Jared Smith, what are your five picks?

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Speaker 6: I went back and forth on whether or not I

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Speaker 6: wanted to throw in an NFL pick. I decided against it,

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01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 6: even though I do have one NFL win total I

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01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,719
Speaker 6: really like. Maybe I'll give it out at a future

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01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:46,200
Speaker 6: time before the NFL season starts. But I have five

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01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 6: college win totals. They're all Power Conference teams. These are

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01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 6: all teams, you know, They're all teams you love. Maybe

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01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:53,759
Speaker 6: actually we're gonna hate one of them this year, hopefully,

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01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:56,680
Speaker 6: But here we go. I'm starting with Bama over nine

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01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 6: and a half wins. I think this is the Kaalin

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Speaker 6: de War year.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:02,600
Speaker 6: Second, you're not replacing Nick Saban anymore, right, you have

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01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 6: that transition year behind you, and I think this Bama

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01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 6: team the deepest roster in the country thirteen five stars on.

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01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:12,720
Speaker 5: They're too deep. The defense will be significantly better this year.

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01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 6: Tys Simpson, I think is going to really thrive. Finally,

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01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 6: to Bor has a quarterback not Jaln Milroe, who can

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01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 6: really thrive in the style of offense that the Boar

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01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:23,599
Speaker 6: wants to run. Their toughest game is at Georgia. They're

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Speaker 6: going to be favored in the other eleven. I think

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01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 6: after missing the playoff last year, I think Bama's in

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01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 6: the playoff this year. Ten and two feels like the

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01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:31,800
Speaker 6: right number. So we'll go over nine and a half

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01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 6: wins for Obama. Do you want me to go all

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01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:35,599
Speaker 6: five or do we go and rapid fire here?

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01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 2: Brian?

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01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 5: What do we want?

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01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:36,679
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 6: Go for it all right, I'll stay in the SEC.

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01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:42,879
Speaker 6: My sleeper team in the SEC this year is Texas

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01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,599
Speaker 6: A and M. I'm going over seven and a half wins.

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01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 6: It's juicy minus one seventy, but I think they get

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01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 6: to eight. I think Marcel Reid's going to have a

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01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 6: fantastic here. He's an RPO king. Leveon Moss's back. The

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01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 6: offensive line is absolutely loaded and they return eight starters

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01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:02,719
Speaker 6: on defense. Mike Elko very underrated coach, No Bama, no Georgia.

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01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 5: On the schedule.

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01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 6: They get South Carolina Florida at home, their toughest games

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01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 6: at Notre Dame, who beat them in College station last year.

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01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 6: They owe your Irish one b O at LSU at Texas.

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01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 6: So I think nine and three feels like the right

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01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 6: number here. Eight and four still gets us over seven

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01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:20,719
Speaker 6: and a half wins. So A and M my sleeper

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01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 6: in the SEC. This year they got a back door

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01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 6: shot at the playoff. They can upset one of those

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01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 6: tough games. I think A and M over seven and

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01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 6: a half wins. Let's go to the Big ten. I

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01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 6: have two overs in the Big ten, Washington over seven

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01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 6: and a half wins. Demon Williams and Jonah Coleman. Remember

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01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 6: those names. You're gonna want to jop those names down people,

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01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 6: because one of the more underrated quarterback receiver duos in

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01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 6: the country. I think Jetfish is a very gifted offensive coach.

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01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:47,640
Speaker 6: This is year two. You kind of distance yourself right

1667
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:49,799
Speaker 6: from Kalin De Borho said the same thing about Bama.

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01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 6: You're not replacing the bor anymore. You've had a year

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01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:56,919
Speaker 6: of transition. You open with Colorado State UC Davis Wazoo.

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01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 6: I mean that's three wins right out of the gate.

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01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 6: Only two trips to the Eastern time zone this year.

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01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 6: You don't have to play Penn State. You get Oregon

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01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 6: at home, you get Illinois at home. Who I'm down on.

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01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 6: Everyone loves Illinois. I don't see it. I think eight

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01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 6: and four for the Huskies, very much in play and

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01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 6: maybe upset Oregon. Maybe you got a chance to sneak

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01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:17,639
Speaker 6: into the playoff. USC over seven and a half wins.

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Speaker 6: Shout out to our producer Bo Benson. This one's juicy

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01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 6: two laying a dollar seventy five. But eight wins feels

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01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 6: like a very modest year for a Lincoln Riley team.

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01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 6: I mean that's expectations very low to get to eight

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01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:30,720
Speaker 6: wins and we get over this total. The defense has

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01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 6: a pulse, the offense gets their quarterback returning in mayava

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01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 6: they should start four and oho Missouri State, Georgia, Southern, Perdue,

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01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:40,439
Speaker 6: Michigan State. Then you get that game against Illinois in

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01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 6: late September. But I'm down on Illinois. You don't have

1687
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 6: to play Ohio State, you don't have to play Penn State.

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01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 6: They're two tough games at Notre Dame at Oregon, but

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01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 6: eight and four, I mean that feels like the floor

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01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 6: for this team. And finally one under in the ACC.

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01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:55,599
Speaker 6: We're going SMU under eight and a half wins. Kevin

1692
01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 6: Jennings is back, but everyone else, literally everyone else is gone.

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01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 6: You lost two all conferences Lineman, you lost three of

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01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 6: the top four receivers, you lost your school record breaking

1695
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 6: running back and seven all conference defenders. Tough non conference

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01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 6: in state game against Baylor, their dogs at TCU, their

1697
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 6: dogs at Clemson, their dogs at home to Miami, toss

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01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:17,639
Speaker 6: up games at Boston College and against Louisville. This smells

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01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 6: like a seven and five year after that magical run

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01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:22,800
Speaker 6: to the CFP last year. So SMU under eight and

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01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 6: a half wins A and M over seven and a half, wins,

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01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 6: USC over seven and a half wins, Washington over seven

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01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 6: and a half, wins BAMA over nine and a half wins.

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01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 4: Okay, I love the analytical perspective. This one is a

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01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:40,559
Speaker 4: little bit more simplified, and it comes down.

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01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 2: To three metrics.

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01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 4: In my brain, I chose all overs, and I chose

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01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 4: all NFL win totals. Okay, okay. So the metrics that

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01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 4: I looked at was do I love their quarterback? Do

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01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 4: I love their coach? And does the number feel right

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01:26:57,640 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 4: to me? Like in the pit of my stomach when

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01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 4: I look at the win total doesn't make sense to

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01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 4: my eyes. And in all five cases, the over sung

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01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 4: out loud to me. We'll start with New England. The

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01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:12,640
Speaker 4: Patriots love Rabel. I think he's a great coach. I

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01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 4: think he's a great culture creator. And I think Drake

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01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 4: May is a real quarterback. And I think he's going

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01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:18,839
Speaker 4: to be a real NFL quarterback.

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01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:19,799
Speaker 2: Will he be elite?

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01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 4: I don't know if he'll be elite, but I can

1721
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 4: tell you he can hold water at this level. So

1722
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 4: give me the over eight and a half Pittsburgh. That's

1723
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 4: a real quarterback, and that's a real coach. A lot

1724
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 4: of people hate on Aaron Rodgers because he's arrogant and

1725
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 4: they hate the press clippings. If you can ignore the

1726
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:38,599
Speaker 4: noise and cut through all of the bolooney and look

1727
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:42,679
Speaker 4: at the quarterback, that's a baller, even after forty years

1728
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 4: of age. Mike Tomlin's a real coach. That numbers too low.

1729
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:48,800
Speaker 4: Give me the over eight and a half wins in

1730
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Las Vegas. Love the coach. Pete Carroll is a

1731
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:58,640
Speaker 4: culture creator, very similar to Rabel. Defensive minded coach, but

1732
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 4: he surrounds himself with ten and he has so on

1733
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 4: the offensive side of the ball. I think Gino Smith

1734
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 4: makes sense in the Desert. I think they are wildly

1735
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:09,640
Speaker 4: undervalued at six and a half wins. Give me the

1736
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 4: over with Vegas San Francisco. Y'all must have forgot Rock

1737
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 4: Purdy can play at this level. I know he had

1738
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 4: a down year. He was also banged up the entire season.

1739
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan's a great coach. He's a QB whisper. Ten

1740
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 4: and a half is too low. I think this is

1741
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 4: going to be a team that could buy for a

1742
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 4: Super Bowl this year. And the Los Angeles Chargers again,

1743
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:35,519
Speaker 4: same metrics and same feeling on the win total. Jim

1744
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 4: Harbaugh he can take a can of soup a quarterback

1745
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 4: and make something happen.

1746
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 2: He really can.

1747
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 4: Now he's gotten lucky and he's been gifted with some

1748
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 4: real talent at that position. And it's happened again with

1749
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 4: the Los Angeles Chargers and Justin Herbert.

1750
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 2: But I like their running back room.

1751
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 4: I think their offensive line, even with the subtraction of

1752
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 4: Slater out for the season, is still going to be

1753
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 4: able to open up holes and lanes and keep Justin

1754
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 4: Herbert upright longer and better than they did a year ago.

1755
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 4: Give me the over the nine and a half wins

1756
01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 4: with La C. So that's New England over eight and

1757
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 4: a half, Pittsburgh over eight and a half, Las Vegas

1758
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 4: over six and a half, San Francisco over ten and

1759
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:18,679
Speaker 4: a half, in the Chargers over nine.

1760
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 2: And a half.

1761
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:19,639
Speaker 3: Love it, okay?

1762
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 2: All right?

1763
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 3: You know I did have your Steelers bet circled as well,

1764
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:27,799
Speaker 3: you know, just like, okay, all of all of our picks.

1765
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:31,680
Speaker 3: Every time, I'll have like ten more picks than I

1766
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 3: need and I have to win it down whatever, and

1767
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 3: then it's the ones you don't give out.

1768
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:38,560
Speaker 2: But I hear you.

1769
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:40,320
Speaker 3: I just wanted to co sign what you're saying. I'm

1770
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 3: not gonna give it out because you did Rich, But

1771
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:44,880
Speaker 3: Steelers over eight and a half. I don't make the rules.

1772
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 3: They just they Mike Tomlett has a winning record every

1773
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 3: single freaking that's right.

1774
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 6: You want to hear a dirty little secret? What's that

1775
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:53,800
Speaker 6: I went under on the Steelers eight and a half

1776
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 6: this year. Oh my god, it's a small It's like

1777
01:29:57,439 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 6: one of my smaller I bet all thirty two win

1778
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:00,679
Speaker 6: totals because I'm a free in the NFL.

1779
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 5: It was one of my smaller bets. But I just

1780
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:05,719
Speaker 5: it's a Rogers thing. I'm scarred.

1781
01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, man, I just look at it

1782
01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:11,639
Speaker 3: where they just do enough, you know, right, they didn't

1783
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 3: have I'm.

1784
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 5: Probably gonna lose this bet. I'm probably gonna lose this bet.

1785
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:17,120
Speaker 3: They won ten games last year, they didn't have stellar quarterbacks.

1786
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:22,720
Speaker 3: And I just think about this too. I hadn't even

1787
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:26,599
Speaker 3: considered this. I just thought, on one side, what if

1788
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:29,679
Speaker 3: Rogers wins big this year. I don't think it's gonna happen,

1789
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 3: but what if? Just think about the ultimate? But what

1790
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:35,560
Speaker 3: do you have to say now moment? What if the

1791
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:40,960
Speaker 3: only year Mike Tomlin doesn't have a winning record is

1792
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 3: with Aaron Rodgers.

1793
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 5: That would be wild.

1794
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:46,760
Speaker 3: It's possible, but that it doesn't sound right.

1795
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 2: Doesn't know, it really doesn't know.

1796
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 6: But then going ten ten wins last year with Russell

1797
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 6: Wilson doesn't sound right either.

1798
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 5: But it happened.

1799
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, it did. Okay, I'll go rapid fire

1800
01:30:56,800 --> 01:31:00,519
Speaker 3: with my five futures bets. First off, she to win

1801
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 3: the division. It's minus one eighteen. I will happily like

1802
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:09,240
Speaker 3: I'll strugg I won't happily lose this bet. I'll shrug

1803
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 3: my shoulders like you know what, I don't even hate

1804
01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 3: myself like that to me is a good bet. Yeah,

1805
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:16,479
Speaker 3: where a Mike oh Haywire. Maybe there are a couple

1806
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:19,320
Speaker 3: of big injuries and whatever, they don't win the division.

1807
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:23,120
Speaker 3: But if they don't, I'm just gonna shrug my shoulders

1808
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 3: on that one. They are the class of the division. Still,

1809
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:31,240
Speaker 3: the talk is stupid about all the Eagles showed something.

1810
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:33,600
Speaker 3: The rest of the league. They they're you know, we

1811
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:37,559
Speaker 3: figured out the Chiefs. No, we haven't stop it. Mahomes

1812
01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 3: is thirty five and five against the AFC West, and

1813
01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 3: I'm supposed to ride with the Chargers or Broncos to win.

1814
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:48,560
Speaker 3: I'm not, no, sorry, It's still the Chiefs still have

1815
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 3: a tough defense. Mahomes has even more healthy targets this season.

1816
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:56,040
Speaker 3: I love the Chiefs to win the division. I'll stay

1817
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 3: positive here. Give me the Cowboys over five and a

1818
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 3: half wins, over seven and a half wins, that too,

1819
01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:05,760
Speaker 3: we're just like, I get it right, They're dumb. They're

1820
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:09,400
Speaker 3: dumb with the whole Michah Parsons like quote unquote negotiation,

1821
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:13,120
Speaker 3: that's not a negotiation. It's not talking to the age,

1822
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:16,720
Speaker 3: and it's ridiculous. But if you get beyond that, I

1823
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 3: still think Michaeh. Parsons is gonna be there. And Dak Prescott, Right,

1824
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:24,040
Speaker 3: Dak has won at least eight games in the seven

1825
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:26,240
Speaker 3: of the nine years he's been the starter. And the

1826
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 3: fine print is that the two years it's when he

1827
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 3: was banged up and his season was short, it's cut short.

1828
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:34,400
Speaker 3: Like last year he started eight games, they still won

1829
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:38,320
Speaker 3: seven games. Right, So you get a healthy Dak with

1830
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:41,759
Speaker 3: Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens, they're gonna be winning games.

1831
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:44,080
Speaker 3: So I'll take over seven and a half with the Cowboys.

1832
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:47,280
Speaker 3: Give me a couple unders here, I'm gonna fade the Jets.

1833
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 3: Give me under six and a half wins. They've been

1834
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 3: a bottom ten offense in each of the last nine years,

1835
01:32:56,200 --> 01:33:01,080
Speaker 3: and Justin Fields is just gonna unlock them. Color skeptical,

1836
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:04,479
Speaker 3: all right, I'm fading the Jets happily. I'm gonna fade

1837
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 3: the Bears, also under eight and a half wins. They're

1838
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:10,760
Speaker 3: not ready for primetime, simply put, and then also look

1839
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 3: at their schedule. Their division is tough, and then the

1840
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:17,599
Speaker 3: divisions that they play outside of their own top to bottom.

1841
01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 3: NFC East not easy, AFC North not easy either. Take

1842
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:26,400
Speaker 3: it a step further. They're playing a last place schedule,

1843
01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:29,280
Speaker 3: so they do get the Saints, but the other last

1844
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:34,360
Speaker 3: place games are not incredibly advantageous. Right They're at the Raiders,

1845
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:38,160
Speaker 3: They're at the Niners on a Sunday night toward the

1846
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:41,280
Speaker 3: end of the season. That's a tough road. And I

1847
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:45,120
Speaker 3: know we're diddy with Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams flashed

1848
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 3: in his first preseason action against the Bills, but look

1849
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:51,600
Speaker 3: at them last night, their first team offense against the

1850
01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 3: Chiefs first team defense. The Bears could do nothing. They

1851
01:33:57,200 --> 01:33:59,720
Speaker 3: are not ready for primetime. I will take under eight

1852
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:02,479
Speaker 3: and a half half wins and the last one, man,

1853
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:04,800
Speaker 3: I'd like to work a player prop in there, maybe

1854
01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:08,200
Speaker 3: a college pick, but I just like the Bengals enough,

1855
01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 3: like the steam is coming down, like the steam is

1856
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 3: going the other way. On the under, I'll take the over.

1857
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 3: I'll take over nine and a half wins for Cincy.

1858
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 3: I know, I know, the defense is not a work

1859
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 3: of art. The defense is probably gonna struggle again this season,

1860
01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:27,880
Speaker 3: but you get Shamar Stewart in there, and even if there,

1861
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:33,000
Speaker 3: I just it's rare that a team won't win double

1862
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:36,400
Speaker 3: digit games when a quarterback like Joe Burrow is putting

1863
01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 3: up such elite numbers, and unless he gets hurt, I

1864
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:43,360
Speaker 3: think he's gonna have another elite season. I'll take my

1865
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 3: chances they get to double digit wins if Joe Burrow

1866
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:50,519
Speaker 3: is somewhat in the vicinity of his production as last season.

1867
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:52,600
Speaker 3: And you can look back to last year, there are

1868
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 3: a couple of gross losses from the Bengals. Right, they

1869
01:34:56,479 --> 01:34:59,840
Speaker 3: had an overtime kick against the Ravens and they were dumb.

1870
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 3: They settled for a long field goal and he missed it.

1871
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:06,240
Speaker 3: And even earlier than that, at Kansas City on the road,

1872
01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:09,719
Speaker 3: it was something ridiculous like fourth and fifteen and Kansas

1873
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:13,840
Speaker 3: City converted. Those easily could have been wins. And also

1874
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:16,439
Speaker 3: the Bengals have been such slow starters. They're playing their

1875
01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:20,759
Speaker 3: ones in the preseason and they have a soft launch

1876
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:25,560
Speaker 3: right just like Week zero here today they're at Cleveland,

1877
01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:28,519
Speaker 3: and then they host Jacksonville. That could be two and

1878
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:31,479
Speaker 3: zero right there. I don't think they start as slowly.

1879
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:34,479
Speaker 3: I'll take the Bengals over nine and a half wins,

1880
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:37,719
Speaker 3: So there you go. Choose to win the division, Cowboys

1881
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:40,639
Speaker 3: over seven and a half, Jets under six and a half,

1882
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:43,640
Speaker 3: Bears under eight and a half, and give me the

1883
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:44,960
Speaker 3: Bengals over nine and a half.

1884
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:48,360
Speaker 2: There you okay, okay? Yeah?

1885
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:52,840
Speaker 4: You know what's amazing is I think I agree with

1886
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 4: all of our picks, our official back to the future picks,

1887
01:35:56,680 --> 01:35:57,000
Speaker 4: and I.

1888
01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:00,000
Speaker 2: Always feel this way with our.

1889
01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:04,200
Speaker 4: You know about fifty better than ever are going to

1890
01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 4: be wrong, and how is that possible?

1891
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:08,879
Speaker 5: I thinks are honestly win totals.

1892
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:11,880
Speaker 6: Like my advice for people that like to bet, you know,

1893
01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 6: on individual games every week. I understand how it feels

1894
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:17,960
Speaker 6: good to get the money back in your account, but

1895
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:20,360
Speaker 6: you are getting more bang for your buck if you

1896
01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:23,200
Speaker 6: spread that out over the full season. Now you have

1897
01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:24,880
Speaker 6: to have a bigger bank roll because you have to

1898
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:27,679
Speaker 6: know the money just sits in your account for four months,

1899
01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 6: five months, until you get the money back if you win.

1900
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:34,800
Speaker 6: But I think it's a more efficient wager because Tabino's

1901
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:37,200
Speaker 6: point about the Bengals last year, Like you just kind

1902
01:36:37,240 --> 01:36:41,000
Speaker 6: of iron out some of those weird results and they

1903
01:36:41,240 --> 01:36:43,799
Speaker 6: tend to balance out over the course of the full season.

1904
01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:47,240
Speaker 6: So directionally, if you are right on your feelings or

1905
01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:50,600
Speaker 6: handicap on a certain team, your chances of winning a

1906
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:53,360
Speaker 6: win total that is spraced out for the whole season

1907
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:56,240
Speaker 6: I think is better. So I love betting win totals.

1908
01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:58,080
Speaker 6: I bet all thirty two NFL win totals. I don't

1909
01:36:58,120 --> 01:36:59,800
Speaker 6: bet big on all of them. Wow, I few I do,

1910
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 6: But I do that every year because I like to

1911
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:03,760
Speaker 6: have an opinion on all thirty two teams, and I

1912
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 6: think it's just a more efficient wager.

1913
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:07,320
Speaker 3: What's your Dolphins opinion?

1914
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:12,120
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm on that. However, it went under eight

1915
01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:13,640
Speaker 5: and a half. Now it's seven and a half, and

1916
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:15,120
Speaker 5: I kind of want to bet the over, right.

1917
01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:18,160
Speaker 3: No, I'll tell you what, because you can bet these

1918
01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:22,240
Speaker 3: season win totals all year, all throughout the season. I'll

1919
01:37:22,240 --> 01:37:24,160
Speaker 3: tell you what. These people like I just mentioned their

1920
01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:28,200
Speaker 3: steam on the under Bengals nine and a half, don't

1921
01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:31,519
Speaker 3: bet it before week one. I would suggest bet it

1922
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:35,799
Speaker 3: after Week two. I think they're gonna beat the Browns

1923
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 3: on the road. I would agree, and I like them

1924
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:41,880
Speaker 3: at home against Jacksonville. So let's just say they go

1925
01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 3: to and oh, it's nine and a half. That's their

1926
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:48,240
Speaker 3: their season win total, that's their their prop right, it's

1927
01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:50,479
Speaker 3: going up. It's gonna go up to probably ten and

1928
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:53,679
Speaker 3: a half with heavy juice to the over. Why would

1929
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:55,920
Speaker 3: you bet under nine and a half right now at

1930
01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:59,080
Speaker 3: close to even money? Just wait, wait until the first

1931
01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:01,519
Speaker 3: two games come in. Go and I think you're gonna

1932
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Speaker 3: get a better number if you like the under.

1933
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Speaker 6: Here's one more small piece of advice. The integer numbers

1934
01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:09,799
Speaker 6: are really attractive to me. What don't mean by integer

1935
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:12,960
Speaker 6: the flat numbers? For example, on the Bengals, if you

1936
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Speaker 6: like the under, there is a ten available in the

1937
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Speaker 6: market right now.

1938
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1939
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Speaker 6: Eleven games in order for you to lose the bet.

1940
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1941
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Speaker 6: and over, if you get a nine and a half,

1942
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Speaker 6: try to find a nine, because then nine and eight

1943
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1944
01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:40,400
Speaker 6: usually I don't like pushes. But if I'm waiting an

1945
01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:45,160
Speaker 6: entire season for this bet to cash or just be graded,

1946
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1947
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:52,280
Speaker 6: lose the wager, I get the money back, and I

1948
01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:54,600
Speaker 6: get to play it back again. So I think that

1949
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Speaker 6: is just a little tip if you can find if

1950
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Speaker 6: you have multiple options. Obviously we prefer BETMGM here usually

1951
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:03,519
Speaker 6: go in half wins for all of their win totals.

1952
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1953
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1954
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Speaker 6: favorable wager.

1955
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Speaker 3: The integer angle.

1956
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Speaker 2: I love.

1957
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Speaker 3: That's great advice, really.

1958
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Speaker 5: Good key, Thank you.

1959
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Speaker 2: I try.

1960
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1962
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1963
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1982
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Speaker 2: Show countdown Heisman Watch.

1983
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there we go, little Heisman watch for you at

1984
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:40,360
Speaker 3: the beginning of the season again Week zero soft launch,

1985
01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:44,080
Speaker 3: soft launch. But even though we don't have great Heisman

1986
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:47,200
Speaker 3: candidates in the games today, I think we got to

1987
01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:50,960
Speaker 3: get this out in the open before Week one rolls around. Right, So, uh,

1988
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:54,519
Speaker 3: what do you think, Jared Smith, anyone in particular you

1989
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:57,080
Speaker 3: got circled on your Heisman watch list.

1990
01:40:57,600 --> 01:40:59,640
Speaker 6: I only have one bet in pocket. I made it

1991
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:01,760
Speaker 6: about a month ago. It was Leonora's Sellers at twenty

1992
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:04,320
Speaker 6: five to one. Now it's down to fourteen to one. Now,

1993
01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:06,559
Speaker 6: am I gonna run at the window and bet Lenaro

1994
01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:08,280
Speaker 6: Seller's at fourteen to one to win the Sword? No,

1995
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:10,920
Speaker 6: Shamus laid it out in our last hour. I think

1996
01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:14,599
Speaker 6: South Carolina probably needs to win eight games minimum, right,

1997
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:17,320
Speaker 6: Jaye Daniels won eight the LSU year that he won

1998
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:21,040
Speaker 6: the Heisman. I think eight is the floor, but I

1999
01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:22,519
Speaker 6: don't know if South Carolina can get there. And I

2000
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:25,360
Speaker 6: think at fourteen to one, him being the fifth favorite

2001
01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 6: on the board is pretty pretty aggressive. But I do

2002
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:30,560
Speaker 6: think if you're gonna ask me who is the most talented,

2003
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:33,639
Speaker 6: who has the highest upside of any quarterback? I think

2004
01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:36,559
Speaker 6: I might go Lenora Sellers. I'm not going Arch Manning.

2005
01:41:36,640 --> 01:41:39,280
Speaker 6: I'm not going Drew Awler because I think those defenses

2006
01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:42,160
Speaker 6: are just too good and I don't think those quarterbacks

2007
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:45,960
Speaker 6: are going to be relied on to have big seasons. Now,

2008
01:41:46,280 --> 01:41:48,960
Speaker 6: Aler's got some big time weapons coming into portal, which

2009
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:52,160
Speaker 6: is very exciting Painya and Hudson, but we'll see. I

2010
01:41:52,240 --> 01:41:54,120
Speaker 6: think Jeremiah Smith at ten to one makes sense. I

2011
01:41:54,160 --> 01:41:55,920
Speaker 6: think Kay club Nick and nine to one makes sense.

2012
01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:57,679
Speaker 6: I think both those teams are gonna have great years

2013
01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:00,000
Speaker 6: win loss wise, and I think both of those players

2014
01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:01,639
Speaker 6: jump off the page. But if I had to give

2015
01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:04,200
Speaker 6: you one pick now that I have in pocket that

2016
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:08,080
Speaker 6: I think still has a fighter's chance to win. I

2017
01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:10,320
Speaker 6: don't love the number, but I think Leonora Sellers, I

2018
01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 6: really do love his upside, and I think South Carolina

2019
01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:14,160
Speaker 6: they can win eight or nine games.

2020
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Speaker 5: I think he's gonna be in New York.

2021
01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:19,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wish there was more value for this pick

2022
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:21,720
Speaker 4: because I agree with what exactly what you said. I

2023
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:24,080
Speaker 4: think they're going to have to win their way into

2024
01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:27,920
Speaker 4: him having a Heisman campaign. But in terms of just

2025
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:30,280
Speaker 4: raw talent. You should have seen my eyes when you

2026
01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:33,880
Speaker 4: said Leonora Sellers. My eyes darted to the screen and

2027
01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:36,160
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, we got the same guy.

2028
01:42:36,479 --> 01:42:38,559
Speaker 2: Uh. True dual threat quarterback.

2029
01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:42,519
Speaker 4: If you're unfamiliar with this game, He's got an unbelievable arm.

2030
01:42:43,320 --> 01:42:46,200
Speaker 4: He could throw it anywhere, and and he's drong in

2031
01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 4: comparison to Cam Newton, Like he's the type of guy

2032
01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:50,680
Speaker 4: who can run round you, but he.

2033
01:42:50,760 --> 01:42:53,240
Speaker 2: Will barrel through you as well.

2034
01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:56,240
Speaker 4: Fun guy to watch, Gonna be one of those seasons

2035
01:42:56,240 --> 01:42:58,200
Speaker 4: where you're gonna see a lot of his highlights and

2036
01:42:58,240 --> 01:43:00,679
Speaker 4: then you're gonna start watching the games to say, Okay,

2037
01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:04,360
Speaker 4: the hype is real, just like Jayden Daniels. So yeah,

2038
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:07,360
Speaker 4: give me Leonora's Sellers as well. We have we already

2039
01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:11,240
Speaker 4: have consensus on the show. Here be no is it

2040
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:12,200
Speaker 4: gonna be a three.

2041
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:13,799
Speaker 2: For It's wild.

2042
01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:17,839
Speaker 3: You guys are not gonna believe this, but Leonora's Sellers

2043
01:43:17,960 --> 01:43:19,160
Speaker 3: is not on my list.

2044
01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:22,960
Speaker 5: With shame has talked him off earlier.

2045
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:25,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone's on South Carolina.

2046
01:43:25,400 --> 01:43:26,840
Speaker 3: What what number did you bet him on?

2047
01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:27,920
Speaker 2: Bet him?

2048
01:43:27,960 --> 01:43:29,160
Speaker 5: I bet him twenty five to one.

2049
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:31,920
Speaker 3: Twenty five to one. Yeah, good, and well I think.

2050
01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:34,320
Speaker 6: South Carolina's got some tough for games early, so maybe

2051
01:43:34,360 --> 01:43:35,880
Speaker 6: you wait till they lose a game and then he

2052
01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:37,600
Speaker 6: drops and then you bet him, like you don't have

2053
01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:39,400
Speaker 6: to make this bet now, but I would put him

2054
01:43:39,439 --> 01:43:40,120
Speaker 6: on your watch.

2055
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:40,559
Speaker 5: List for sure.

2056
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:43,840
Speaker 3: Okay, you guys are gonna call me a homer, but

2057
01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:47,680
Speaker 3: c J. Cart No, I'm just kidding, like jeremil I

2058
01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:50,800
Speaker 3: was about to. Yeah, no, no, not Jeremiah Love either,

2059
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:53,679
Speaker 3: even though he's he should have a spectacular season again,

2060
01:43:53,680 --> 01:43:56,320
Speaker 3: should you know? I'll tell you as far as like

2061
01:43:56,640 --> 01:44:00,360
Speaker 3: a realistic long shot. I was just joking with CJ.

2062
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:02,680
Speaker 3: Carr is fifty to one could be the Notre Dame

2063
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:06,880
Speaker 3: new quarterback. But I mean you're talking true freshman, you know, dude,

2064
01:44:06,920 --> 01:44:10,200
Speaker 3: luck winning the Heisman like that, Dylan Ryola.

2065
01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like, could he just hit this.

2066
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:17,200
Speaker 3: Season and all of a sudden Nebraska is winning a

2067
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:20,840
Speaker 3: lot more games than many expected. Matt Ruhle, you know,

2068
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:22,960
Speaker 3: year three, this is go time. He has a lot

2069
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:26,720
Speaker 3: of success. It all could come together and I could

2070
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:30,719
Speaker 3: see forty to one becoming a lot shorter than that age.

2071
01:44:30,920 --> 01:44:32,760
Speaker 3: So that's that's one long shot to look at. But

2072
01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:36,160
Speaker 3: I love Jeremiah Smith out of Ohio State. He's the

2073
01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:38,360
Speaker 3: best player in college football. You give him at ten

2074
01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:40,960
Speaker 3: to one, I think there's a tendency to look at man,

2075
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:43,960
Speaker 3: I kind of want a minimum of like forty five

2076
01:44:44,120 --> 01:44:47,280
Speaker 3: to one. Dude, you if you hit a ten to

2077
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:51,120
Speaker 3: one parlay today, you'd be ecstatic. Yep, Like, don't just

2078
01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:54,240
Speaker 3: dismiss a ten to one future because you want it

2079
01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:56,519
Speaker 3: to be a fifty to one future. Ten to one

2080
01:44:56,640 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 3: is pretty good. Yeah, And the reasons for Jeremiah Smith

2081
01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:05,200
Speaker 3: listen again, best player in college football, New quarterback. That's important.

2082
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:08,120
Speaker 3: So if he puts up big numbers, he's gonna be

2083
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:10,840
Speaker 3: looked at as the constant. He's gonna get the lion's

2084
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:13,040
Speaker 3: share of the credit. It's not gonna be the new quarterback,

2085
01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:17,559
Speaker 3: Julian saying, it's gonna be Smith, right, Smith over saying,

2086
01:45:18,360 --> 01:45:21,479
Speaker 3: uh so I think that. Yeah, just saying I think

2087
01:45:21,560 --> 01:45:24,720
Speaker 3: Jeremiah Smith putting up big numbers in what could be

2088
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:27,599
Speaker 3: another special season for Ohio State. It's gonna stand out.

2089
01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:30,600
Speaker 3: And if he becomes a Heisman winner, he'll just be

2090
01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 3: the fifth wide receiver to do it. To win the Heisman.

2091
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:36,800
Speaker 3: You got Johnny Rodgers at Nebraska, who also was a

2092
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:40,519
Speaker 3: running back, partially my guy, Tim Brown with the Irish,

2093
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:45,000
Speaker 3: Desmond Howard with Michigan, Davonte Smith with Alabama. That's the

2094
01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:49,240
Speaker 3: list of Heisman winning wide receivers. So Jeremiah Smith trying

2095
01:45:49,240 --> 01:45:50,000
Speaker 3: to be the fifth guy.

2096
01:45:51,320 --> 01:45:53,880
Speaker 6: Ohio State's so interesting this year because how do you like,

2097
01:45:54,640 --> 01:45:57,800
Speaker 6: how do you play them? Do you take away Jeremiah

2098
01:45:57,840 --> 01:46:00,040
Speaker 6: Smith and do you elect Carnel Tait and Brandon and

2099
01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:03,240
Speaker 6: it's go crazy or do you say, listen, Jeremiah Smith

2100
01:46:03,320 --> 01:46:05,679
Speaker 6: is gonna get his let's make sure that we don't

2101
01:46:05,720 --> 01:46:09,080
Speaker 6: get you know, tattooed by these other receivers and just

2102
01:46:09,160 --> 01:46:12,000
Speaker 6: play Smith straight up, Like I'm gonna be fascinated, especially

2103
01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:14,000
Speaker 6: the first game against Texas has a really good defense.

2104
01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:16,960
Speaker 6: What is the strategy Because to your point, b No,

2105
01:46:17,120 --> 01:46:19,800
Speaker 6: if they play the other guys straight up and they

2106
01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:22,759
Speaker 6: give Jeremiah Smith just you know, average off.

2107
01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:24,599
Speaker 5: Coverage, he's gonna have an incredible year.

2108
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:24,960
Speaker 2: Man.

2109
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:28,600
Speaker 6: But maybe they just say, screw you, Jeremiah. We're not

2110
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:30,519
Speaker 6: gonna let you go off for two hundred yards every game.

2111
01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:32,360
Speaker 6: We're gonna let Carnell Tat and Brandon and and who,

2112
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:36,240
Speaker 6: by the way, are incredibly talented receivers like probably would

2113
01:46:36,240 --> 01:46:38,519
Speaker 6: be one number one receivers on almost every other team

2114
01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:40,639
Speaker 6: in the country Tate Nennis. But those are the two

2115
01:46:40,720 --> 01:46:43,240
Speaker 6: and the three on Ohio State. So I think the

2116
01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:46,800
Speaker 6: strategy for how teams play the Buck guys this year

2117
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:49,120
Speaker 6: is going to have a huge impact on that highs

2118
01:46:49,160 --> 01:46:49,559
Speaker 6: con raands.

2119
01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:51,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point.

2120
01:46:51,800 --> 01:46:51,920
Speaker 2: Hi.

2121
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:54,080
Speaker 3: By the way, I wanted to throw out some NFL

2122
01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:57,760
Speaker 3: trades with you guys because it's been an interesting week, right,

2123
01:46:57,880 --> 01:47:00,559
Speaker 3: A lot of movement, a lot of trades. Players going

2124
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:02,840
Speaker 3: from here to there. But to me, it's not just

2125
01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:06,639
Speaker 3: the trade itself, it's the bigger picture of the trades

2126
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:09,200
Speaker 3: right where if you look at the Niners, this is

2127
01:47:09,240 --> 01:47:13,280
Speaker 3: an interesting one. The Chiefs traded sky More wide receiver

2128
01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:17,360
Speaker 3: to San Francisco. That's not like, whoa, they got sky More?

2129
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:20,360
Speaker 3: Look at it, right, it's look at what the Niners

2130
01:47:20,360 --> 01:47:23,240
Speaker 3: are dealing with wide receiver wise. So we know Brandon

2131
01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:27,200
Speaker 3: Aiyuki's recovering from that knee injury, Juwan Jennings is banged

2132
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:30,240
Speaker 3: up with the calf injury, Jordan Watkins has a high

2133
01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:34,799
Speaker 3: ankle sprain. DeMarcus Robinson got suspended for the first three games.

2134
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:37,960
Speaker 3: You got all this stuff going on with the Niners,

2135
01:47:38,479 --> 01:47:42,360
Speaker 3: and I know they have a really favorable schedule, but man,

2136
01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:45,400
Speaker 3: what's going on with wide receiver around brock Purty is

2137
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:48,320
Speaker 3: not a great situation for San Francisco at the beginning

2138
01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:48,760
Speaker 3: of the year.

2139
01:47:48,840 --> 01:47:51,400
Speaker 2: Here, No, no, it isn't.

2140
01:47:51,479 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 4: And also, you know, this is kind of a little

2141
01:47:55,880 --> 01:48:00,960
Speaker 4: bit of an interesting picture or portrayal pain did in

2142
01:48:01,160 --> 01:48:01,880
Speaker 4: Kansas City.

2143
01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:03,680
Speaker 2: You know, Skymore didn't work out.

2144
01:48:03,880 --> 01:48:06,320
Speaker 4: There was a lot of buzz if you remember early

2145
01:48:06,439 --> 01:48:09,719
Speaker 4: preseason when he first got there in Kansas City about

2146
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Speaker 4: how he was going to be, you know, an exciting

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Speaker 4: and explosive pickup for the Chiefs and it just never materialized. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: which I'm gonna say this. I think it's the factory

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Speaker 4: that it felt like Kansas City was prior or, prior

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Speaker 4: to Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelcey's initial success, it slowed

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Speaker 4: down a little bit. I don't know if it's over.

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Speaker 4: It's I don't think it's over, like you said, I

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Speaker 4: think they'll win the division earlier, Brian, but the Kansas

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Speaker 4: City Chiefs aren't developing talent as at quick as quickly

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Speaker 4: as they were in previous years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think the Niners are still going to have a

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Speaker 5: pretty good year.

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Speaker 3: I really do.

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Speaker 6: And to your point about the Chiefs, this could be

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Speaker 6: the Mahomes get back year. Yeah, it really could be. Yeah,

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01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:02,360
Speaker 6: he looked great and I know it was preseason last night,

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01:49:02,439 --> 01:49:04,200
Speaker 6: but man, he was chucking it around all over the

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Speaker 6: field last night. I didn't give this out and back

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Speaker 6: to the futures obviously because it's a long shot back.

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Speaker 5: But my biggest awards market wagers so far in the NFL,

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Speaker 5: I have two full units on Mahomes to an MVP.

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Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, I think.

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Speaker 6: Love and Party are kind of in the mix too

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Speaker 6: as quarterbacks that could have you know, thirteen fourteen win seasons.

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Speaker 6: But it's been such a quarterback success award over the

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Speaker 6: last decade plus. If Mahomes and the Chiefs win fifteen

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Speaker 6: games and he has even a shred of a statistical

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Speaker 6: bounce back year because last year was not a great

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Speaker 6: statistical year for him or the Chiefs.

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Speaker 5: They won a lot of games, but he didn't really

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Speaker 5: play that well.

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Speaker 6: If you increase that statistical output this year and they

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Speaker 6: go fourteen and three, fifteen and two, I think, I mean,

2180
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:55,240
Speaker 6: it's been like a rotation guys the last three years. Right,

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Speaker 6: it's Allan, it's Jackson, it's Mahomes.

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Speaker 5: Those have been your last three MVPs.

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Speaker 6: It just feels like those are the best three quarterbacks

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Speaker 6: in the league, and one of those three guys should

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Speaker 6: win the MVP if that team produces, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, a high level of wins.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I you know, we didn't give out any player props

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Speaker 3: in the Yeah, back to the futures. But building off

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Speaker 3: what you're saying there, Jared, if you look at Mahomes

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Speaker 3: his passing yards for the season, forty to fifty and

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01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:26,719
Speaker 3: a half because hafed a little over four thousand yards.

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01:50:27,320 --> 01:50:30,760
Speaker 3: He was under four thousand barely last season thirty nine

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Speaker 3: to twenty eight, but his other six seasons he's been

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Speaker 3: over four thousand yards. Yeah, and man, when you get

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Speaker 3: a healthy you know Rashie Rice, Hollywood Brown, Xavier Worthy,

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01:50:42,560 --> 01:50:45,120
Speaker 3: that's a lot of talent. We know that Rashie Rice

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Speaker 3: is gonna miss a few games due to suspension. We'll

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Speaker 3: find out how many. But man's that's a lot of talent.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you, Jared. I think this could be a

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Speaker 3: back to prominence type year for Mahomes. There's another trade

2202
01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:02,120
Speaker 3: in the war hasn't been completed yet, but how about

2203
01:51:02,120 --> 01:51:07,960
Speaker 3: this the Vikings inquiring about Carolina Panthers wide receiver Adam Thielen.

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01:51:08,479 --> 01:51:10,960
Speaker 3: So obviously used to play for the Vikings. But what's

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01:51:11,040 --> 01:51:14,320
Speaker 3: interesting about this again, not the trade itself, Not only

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01:51:14,439 --> 01:51:17,160
Speaker 3: the trade itself, it's like the bigger picture around that

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01:51:17,320 --> 01:51:21,200
Speaker 3: trade should it happen. So Jordan Addison, he's gonna be

2208
01:51:21,240 --> 01:51:24,439
Speaker 3: serving a three game suspension. Jalen Naylor, he's dealing with

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Speaker 3: a hand injury. And if this trade goes down, Adam

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Speaker 3: Thielen could end up starting for the Vikings in Week one,

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01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:36,600
Speaker 3: which to me is like wow, right, Like, for a

2212
01:51:36,680 --> 01:51:39,960
Speaker 3: couple of reasons, you got J J. McCarthy first year starter,

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Speaker 3: and we're just gonna make a trade right before week

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01:51:42,640 --> 01:51:44,519
Speaker 3: one and we'll just figure it out on the fly.

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01:51:45,160 --> 01:51:48,679
Speaker 3: That doesn't sound great, right, So and on the Panthers

2216
01:51:48,760 --> 01:51:52,560
Speaker 3: side too, their offense, their ones have really struggled in

2217
01:51:52,640 --> 01:51:56,280
Speaker 3: the preseason, especially Bryce Young. You just trade Adam Thielen

2218
01:51:56,360 --> 01:51:58,880
Speaker 3: right before Week one? Not great for their offense either,

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01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:01,960
Speaker 3: So interesting trade in the works. We'll see if it

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01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:02,479
Speaker 3: goes down.

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01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:06,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it says a lot about both squads, right,

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01:52:06,680 --> 01:52:10,240
Speaker 4: Like the same way we're talking about San Francisco Vikings

2223
01:52:10,360 --> 01:52:14,519
Speaker 4: in a in a similar not same situation, Vikings coming

2224
01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:18,000
Speaker 4: off a better season but untested a quarterback. San Francisco

2225
01:52:18,160 --> 01:52:22,320
Speaker 4: coming off a war season but consistency at the position. Yeah,

2226
01:52:22,840 --> 01:52:26,320
Speaker 4: and then Carolina if that trade goes down, it says

2227
01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:28,360
Speaker 4: a lot of what they think about Bryce Young, you

2228
01:52:28,439 --> 01:52:31,960
Speaker 4: know what I mean? Like how expendable are any offensive

2229
01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:34,559
Speaker 4: weapons that he's really comfortable with at this point? Are

2230
01:52:34,640 --> 01:52:37,560
Speaker 4: you truly setting him up for success or are you

2231
01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:41,559
Speaker 4: setting yourself up for a future where you can move

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Speaker 4: on from Bryce Young.

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Speaker 5: I think it's gonna happen.

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01:52:45,320 --> 01:52:48,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, I do think that trade's gonna happen, based on

2235
01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:51,559
Speaker 6: the rumors I'm hearing. Nothing confirmed, but I don't think

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01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:55,960
Speaker 6: you inquire right about a trade this late unless you're

2237
01:52:56,000 --> 01:53:00,760
Speaker 6: making that trade or you're really serious, and you don't

2238
01:53:00,800 --> 01:53:03,200
Speaker 6: see trades this late in the year or in this

2239
01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:07,040
Speaker 6: late in the process with a receiver, usually with a

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Speaker 6: high impact because usually that is a guy that needs

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01:53:09,680 --> 01:53:12,479
Speaker 6: a lot of rapport with the quarterback, So you just

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01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:14,799
Speaker 6: don't see, you know, sometimes you'll see.

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01:53:14,680 --> 01:53:17,479
Speaker 5: Like a backup quarterback get traded. I think we saw.

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01:53:18,680 --> 01:53:21,320
Speaker 6: I forget, the Jets traded one of their backups right

2245
01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:23,479
Speaker 6: before the season started a few years ago when they

2246
01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:26,560
Speaker 6: had like four different quarterbacks and they traded one and

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01:53:26,600 --> 01:53:28,160
Speaker 6: they got back a draft pick for one. So you'll

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01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:30,280
Speaker 6: see that sometimes with a backup quarterback, but usually with

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01:53:30,360 --> 01:53:33,880
Speaker 6: a starting skill position player, you need reps with the

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Speaker 6: quarterback to kind of get ready for the season, so

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Speaker 6: it's rare you see that happen this late.

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01:53:37,720 --> 01:53:38,360
Speaker 5: I think it happens.

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01:53:38,479 --> 01:53:39,800
Speaker 6: I don't know how it works out. I mean, I

2254
01:53:39,880 --> 01:53:41,800
Speaker 6: love Adam feeling as a player. I don't know what

2255
01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:44,400
Speaker 6: he has left in the tank, but interesting stuff there

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01:53:44,439 --> 01:53:44,920
Speaker 6: for sure, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, yeah, big time. And last one to mention real

2258
01:53:47,560 --> 01:53:50,800
Speaker 3: fast is again not a blockbuster trade. But how about

2259
01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:53,920
Speaker 3: the Eagles. They trade for a wide receiver John Metchi

2260
01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:57,600
Speaker 3: and the Texans get a tight end Harrison Bryant. But

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01:53:58,080 --> 01:54:01,960
Speaker 3: you mentioned this last week when rich was forsaking us,

2262
01:54:02,200 --> 01:54:06,639
Speaker 3: you know, just you and me, Jaredy, Like AJ Brown's

2263
01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:09,880
Speaker 3: got this hamstring issue, right, and then they trade for

2264
01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:12,519
Speaker 3: a wide receiver. Pretty interesting stuff if you look at

2265
01:54:12,520 --> 01:54:14,240
Speaker 3: the big picture, I agree.

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01:54:14,439 --> 01:54:18,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah it look again, it to me sounds like

2267
01:54:19,160 --> 01:54:22,120
Speaker 4: a lot of teams scrambling to shore things up heading

2268
01:54:22,200 --> 01:54:24,679
Speaker 4: into the season. And either these are short term band

2269
01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:27,040
Speaker 4: aids or these are going to be in the case

2270
01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:30,640
Speaker 4: of feeling, in my opinion, like season long fixes for

2271
01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:34,720
Speaker 4: something they feel like they're they're missing coming out of preseason.

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01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:39,240
Speaker 4: A team, a roster is always a puzzle, and good

2273
01:54:39,400 --> 01:54:44,040
Speaker 4: coaches and good general managers front offices are never done

2274
01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:48,480
Speaker 4: trying to assemble that puzzle. And so yeah, even look,

2275
01:54:48,520 --> 01:54:51,320
Speaker 4: even when you're trading for draft capital, if you have

2276
01:54:51,560 --> 01:54:55,480
Speaker 4: the the player capital to do that, it's fine as

2277
01:54:55,520 --> 01:54:58,520
Speaker 4: long as it doesn't affect your immediate short term success.

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Speaker 5: I think, think the Eagles offense.

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Speaker 6: Here's my hot take. Ready, here's your hot take. Eight

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01:55:04,240 --> 01:55:07,920
Speaker 6: forty two am Pacific time on August twenty third. Here's

2281
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Speaker 6: your NFL hot take. Eagles offense really struggles to start

2282
01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:15,480
Speaker 6: the year. Okay, issues with the Eagles offense. AJ Brown's

2283
01:55:15,480 --> 01:55:19,320
Speaker 6: banged up. You lose your offensive coordinator Kellen Moore. He

2284
01:55:19,520 --> 01:55:21,560
Speaker 6: is now the head coach in New Orleans. You promote

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01:55:21,600 --> 01:55:25,120
Speaker 6: from within Kevin Petulo. The last time that happened was

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01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:27,960
Speaker 6: Brian Johnson, which was a disaster. We know Jalen Hurts

2287
01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:30,360
Speaker 6: and Nick Sirianni don't always see eye to eye. That's

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01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:33,680
Speaker 6: why Kellen Moore was the buffer for them. Shane Steiken

2289
01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:36,040
Speaker 6: was the buffer for them, and it worked out really well.

2290
01:55:36,120 --> 01:55:37,960
Speaker 6: It didn't work out when they didn't have a buffer.

2291
01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:41,120
Speaker 6: But now it's Petulo, who's a Sirianni guy, into that role.

2292
01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:44,680
Speaker 6: They bring in Scott Loffler from Bowling Green, the head

2293
01:55:44,720 --> 01:55:47,320
Speaker 6: coach of Bowling Greens now the quarterback coach of the Eagles.

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01:55:47,520 --> 01:55:50,320
Speaker 6: Very unique, probably one of the most unique hires in

2295
01:55:50,360 --> 01:55:53,720
Speaker 6: the entire NFL offseason. How does that dynamic workout. Laffler

2296
01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:57,360
Speaker 6: has more experience than Petulo. He's like ten years older

2297
01:55:57,400 --> 01:55:59,839
Speaker 6: and he's coached a lot of good quarterbacks. Brady Tebow.

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01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:03,040
Speaker 5: I think, think the offensive room for the Eagles.

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01:56:03,200 --> 01:56:06,160
Speaker 6: It might work out, it might be a cluster, it

2300
01:56:06,200 --> 01:56:08,520
Speaker 6: could be an absolute dumpster fire if they don't see

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01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:08,920
Speaker 6: eye to on.

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Speaker 3: Interesting and you know, think about this too. Building off

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01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:15,880
Speaker 3: your point is you look at Saquon Barkley and his

2304
01:56:16,040 --> 01:56:19,520
Speaker 3: season rushing yards. So again, he went over two thousand

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01:56:19,600 --> 01:56:26,000
Speaker 3: yards last season, unbelievable electric, but this season fourteen hundred

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01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:29,680
Speaker 3: and a half under right, I think under as well.

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01:56:29,880 --> 01:56:33,360
Speaker 3: And think about that. It's over six hundred yards of

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01:56:33,480 --> 01:56:36,280
Speaker 3: a dip. That's a lot, and it's juiced slightly to

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01:56:36,400 --> 01:56:40,600
Speaker 3: the under minus one twenty. Take that for what it's worth.

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01:56:40,680 --> 01:56:44,880
Speaker 3: But yeah, man to have over four hundred touches in

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Speaker 3: an NFL season. Steve Mariucci, he said on NFL Network

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01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:51,120
Speaker 3: a long time ago, he was like, He's like, what's

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Speaker 3: a carry? A carry is a bruise. You know that's

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Speaker 3: what it is as an NFL. Right, A lot of

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Speaker 3: bruises last season. So we'll see what Saquon for an

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Speaker 5: Let's do it.

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Speaker 3: Rapid fire, all right, Jared. The conclusion of rapid Fire

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Speaker 3: for this section like mostly the football offseason. Now, yeah,

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Speaker 3: a close to the mostly offseason football picks. And you'll

2357
01:59:09,360 --> 01:59:11,480
Speaker 3: be the winner here, Jared. So will you just add

2358
01:59:11,560 --> 01:59:13,640
Speaker 3: to your win total or not? We'll find out what

2359
01:59:13,720 --> 01:59:14,080
Speaker 3: do you like?

2360
01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:14,680
Speaker 2: I hope.

2361
01:59:14,720 --> 01:59:16,440
Speaker 6: So it has been a good offseason, but that doesn't

2362
01:59:16,440 --> 01:59:18,640
Speaker 6: matter because now we're in ball season. I will give

2363
01:59:18,640 --> 01:59:20,760
Speaker 6: you three football picks today. Let's start the preseason of

2364
01:59:20,800 --> 01:59:23,520
Speaker 6: the NFL. How about this the Browns minus nine and

2365
01:59:23,560 --> 01:59:25,720
Speaker 6: a half against the Rams. Why are the Rams flying

2366
01:59:25,760 --> 01:59:28,480
Speaker 6: to Cleveland for a one o'clock Eastern preseason game right

2367
01:59:28,520 --> 01:59:31,560
Speaker 6: before the regular season starts. Mind boggling to me. Mcmay

2368
01:59:31,640 --> 01:59:33,480
Speaker 6: never plays the starters in the preseason, not going to

2369
01:59:33,520 --> 01:59:35,800
Speaker 6: play the starters today. Might not even play the backups today,

2370
01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:38,560
Speaker 6: might be third stringers, while the Browns are playing their

2371
01:59:38,600 --> 01:59:40,840
Speaker 6: starters today for about twenty five to thirty plays. So

2372
01:59:40,880 --> 01:59:43,000
Speaker 6: I'll take Cleveland minus nine and a half against the Rams.

2373
01:59:43,200 --> 01:59:45,280
Speaker 6: We'll lay it with UNLV minus thirty and a half

2374
01:59:45,320 --> 01:59:46,200
Speaker 6: against Iowa State.

2375
01:59:46,320 --> 01:59:47,360
Speaker 2: Big move on the spread.

2376
01:59:47,600 --> 01:59:49,640
Speaker 6: I think Dan Mullen wants to make a statement in

2377
01:59:49,720 --> 01:59:52,200
Speaker 6: his first game here in Vegas. I don't love the

2378
01:59:52,280 --> 01:59:55,000
Speaker 6: quarterback situation for UNLV. I do love the running back

2379
01:59:55,000 --> 01:59:57,440
Speaker 6: situation Jaydon Thomas, he's on the Dope Walker watch list.

2380
01:59:57,640 --> 01:59:58,879
Speaker 5: I think UNOV wins.

2381
01:59:58,680 --> 02:00:01,360
Speaker 6: Big, and I'll take four two points Fresno State plus

2382
02:00:01,400 --> 02:00:04,360
Speaker 6: fourteen today against Kansas the Jayhawks return Jalen Daniels.

2383
02:00:04,520 --> 02:00:06,560
Speaker 5: Everyone else is gone, the OC gone.

2384
02:00:06,720 --> 02:00:10,680
Speaker 6: DC retired eight new starters on offense and nine new

2385
02:00:10,760 --> 02:00:11,760
Speaker 6: starters on defense.

2386
02:00:11,800 --> 02:00:13,160
Speaker 5: We'll go Fresno State plus fourteen.

2387
02:00:14,240 --> 02:00:16,720
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go. Give me Hawaii with the lead

2388
02:00:16,800 --> 02:00:17,360
Speaker 2: at the half.

2389
02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:19,480
Speaker 4: They're favored by a half point in the first half

2390
02:00:20,240 --> 02:00:23,960
Speaker 4: versus Stanford on the Island. I think that Stanford lurches

2391
02:00:24,000 --> 02:00:25,800
Speaker 4: out the gate. They may win it, but I think

2392
02:00:25,840 --> 02:00:29,160
Speaker 4: Hawaii has the lead at intermission. Give me Idah host State.

2393
02:00:29,200 --> 02:00:32,320
Speaker 4: We're on opposing ends of this way and a half.

2394
02:00:32,360 --> 02:00:33,280
Speaker 2: I'm taking the dog.

2395
02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:35,960
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be taking a lot of FCS dogs early

2396
02:00:36,040 --> 02:00:38,720
Speaker 4: in the season. I think Mullen's gonna call off his

2397
02:00:38,960 --> 02:00:42,240
Speaker 4: dogs earlier in this matchup. I don't think they necessarily

2398
02:00:42,360 --> 02:00:45,200
Speaker 4: need to win big. I was State versus k State.

2399
02:00:45,280 --> 02:00:48,720
Speaker 4: Give me the first half under twenty five and a half. Okay,

2400
02:00:49,520 --> 02:00:50,280
Speaker 4: I'll go fast.

2401
02:00:51,320 --> 02:00:52,200
Speaker 2: I have no just go.

2402
02:00:54,000 --> 02:00:58,560
Speaker 3: Let's start off with the wnba I football that give

2403
02:00:58,600 --> 02:01:02,720
Speaker 3: me Chelsea Gray over five and a half assists. She'll

2404
02:01:02,840 --> 02:01:03,480
Speaker 3: she'll get there.

2405
02:01:03,800 --> 02:01:04,840
Speaker 2: You know they'll do work.

2406
02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:07,480
Speaker 3: Give me the Brewers, I got it. I wad give

2407
02:01:07,520 --> 02:01:10,920
Speaker 3: me the Brewers minus one forty five to beat the Giants.

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02:01:11,000 --> 02:01:13,480
Speaker 3: Give me Avery Johnson under twoh eight and a half