WEBVTT - #243 - Kai Cao of DesignerCon 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.000 Boutleg Heap podcast special guests in here. We got the 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:06.240 Homiekai from three D Retro and from Designer Con. How 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:09.760 you doing checked in? Thanks for having me, Yes, sir. Uh. 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:12.479 So for people who don't know, well, one, I went 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:15.360 to your store. You have a store in Glendale. Is 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:19.920 it technically Glendale? It's technically Glendale one block away from Burbank. 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:23.480 Literally walked across the street as Bourbank right. Uh. It's 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:27.440 a crazy toy store. And we have a mutual friend 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:31.600 named dj Amen who's a psychopath. Uh just buys every 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:36.000 just toy imaginable. His house is uh insane. It's it's 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:38.360 kind of like a toy store. Yes. So he's like, Yo, 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:39.560 you should come over here check it out because I 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:40.919 kind of like toys. I'm kind of like, you know, 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:45.200 not like that though. And I walked into the store 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:49.000 and there's so much shit And I didn't know that 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:52.199 you also were the guy behind designer Con. So now 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:56.440 you've got designer Con coming up. What is designer Con 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:59.480 for people who don't know? So for people I don't know, 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:04.720 Signer Cons the annual collectible convention. This is our seventeenth year. 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:07.760 So Ben is the founder. I run the show with him. 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:12.880 So we have artists from over the world, from Asia, Europe, 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:17.080 and off of course the United States, independent artists, illustrators, 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:21.399 and world renowned toy makers and painters. So all of 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:25.120 them usually come to our show either exhibit or have 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:29.440 exclusive or have collaborations. We support everybody from the top 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:33.920 to the bottom, emerging artists, everybody. It's kind of like 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:36.800 the end of the year party for collectors and artists. 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:40.080 Is it pretty? Is it kind of like revolve around 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:43.200 It's like kind of like the the underlying theme of 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:46.200 it is like if you're a because it's called designer Con, 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:48.440 it's not called toy Con. So there's there's kind of 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:50.400 something there for everybody as long as you're kind of 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:53.680 into like creative shit. Like you said, there's people who 0:01:53.680 --> 0:02:00.160 are painting detainers, illustrators, toy makers, and there's the collector, 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:03.840 and then there's the guys that started just making shit 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:06.040 out of the garage, like hey, I want to make 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:11.520 something exactly like so we it's for everybody everything in 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:15.360 terms of design. So what got you initially involved in 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:20.839 the toy industry? So I told this story a couple 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:23.520 of times. I was in high school. I walked into 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:28.680 Stucy the Fairfax of Libreri area. They had this little 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:33.000 figure of their mascot holding a skateboard. So that's my 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:35.640 first thing. That's pretty dope. And then went to kit 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:40.120 Robot they started coming out two thousand and three, twos 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:42.320 So going to their store and be like, this is 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:44.800 dope Japanese stuff, and they just told me that's their 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:48.400 original design. I started buying and they just got hooked. 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:53.840 Just been buying, buying, and became a seller later on, 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:57.320 just got wholesale count and all that stuff, and then 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:01.760 got into working with different artists and then Designer con 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:06.840 came around and basically just that's my whole life. So 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:11.359 you started collecting around two thousand and two. Yeah, at 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:15.240 what point in time did you decide to get involved 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:17.120 in the commerce side of it where You're like, Okay, 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:21.120 I'm a fan, I'm enthusiastic about just collecting, yeah, but 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:24.120 I also want to make this, like two thousand my business. 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:29.520 Oh wait, So two thousand, two thousand and eight, around 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:33.080 that time, I was working at Disney Disneyland, so I 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:36.400 was I went to school for hospitality Oh shit, I 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:40.120 went to school for hospitality management. So coming out of 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:42.520 school a court on blue right. So coming out of school, 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:48.280 I got hired at Disneyland doing what basically food service 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:51.480 for employees. Got you, So basically I'm the I'm the 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:54.400 guy behind the restaurants. So if you go to Disneyland, 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:57.960 you see restaurants, there's restaurants for their cast members employees. 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.480 So I was one of the managers running you see 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:04.400 aproach over there. I still know a few people there. Actually, 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:08.280 what's funny is that you did get disneyl the ill 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:11.640 tell is something. The guy that designed our mascot designer 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:15.840 com mascot, Scott Tollison. Yeah, he's still a Disney imagineer. 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:19.719 Oh wow. So he is super busy right now because 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.800 Disney is doing some cool shits on some new cruises. 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:25.760 So he got designer con that he's doing, he got 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:29.480 he's been working on our membership program project that we've 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:32.760 been doing the last six months, and then he's got Disney. Wow. 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:36.800 So we do have some people that works doing designer Con. 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:39.080 We know a lot of people in different studios of course, 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:41.360 artists and all that. So you go from working at 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:44.400 Disney this is what you went to school for. Went 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:47.159 to school for? Yeah, yeah, and Uh, I think it 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:50.160 was the recession, the first that recession two thousand and 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:53.200 seven and eight. So I was laid off. I got 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:55.159 laid off, and at that point in time, I'm like, 0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:00.120 I have all these toys, and I have all these 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:03.000 vinyl figures. I feel like people buy them. I buy 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:04.680 a lot of them. Let me see if I can 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:08.520 get a wholesale count and then start a business myself. 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:11.359 So at that point, I actually sold all my sneakers 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:14.360 in Troy and seven to get funding to buy more 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:16.560 toys to sell. How much did you get for all 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:19.400 your sneakers, like at that point was like ten to 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:21.880 fifteen red. The price is not like what it is 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.919 now back in the days, kind of crazy back in 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:29.159 the day. And that I think I have mostly a 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:31.680 Spees in Jordan's as Speeds was on its way down, 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:34.000 so I was like, just got rid of it, just 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:36.719 got off of them. But that's what funded you being 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:39.039 able to buy more toys through your wholesale account, right, 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:41.640 So at that point I decided to get a wholesale 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:46.920 account and buy stuff, uh, to to make money instead 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:50.640 of you know, I'll collect, I'll keep some, but mainly 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:53.680 to sell and try to make a living out of it. Yeah, 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:56.680 and yeah, that's when I became like a lot of 0:05:56.800 --> 0:06:00.880 artists knowlls like White Line Collector shit, and now it's like, oh, 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:06.480 here Kai selling stuff. Yeah. So was that the beginning 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:10.200 of three D Retro Three D Retro. So Ben Funded 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:12.839 founded three D Retro around the same time in two 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:18.440 thousand and three. So he basically and I were business partners. 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:22.320 So what we did is he ran an online shop. 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:26.799 Three D Retro was online, and I was basically buying 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.400 with him. I was the guy behind the scene. So 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:33.840 let's say there's a new product came out for wholesale, 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:36.920 you have to buy a certain amount to get a 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:41.560 good price, and Ben only wanted like, say ten, you 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:44.080 buy the difference to get the better price. Yes, and 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:46.920 then I would you would flip and do your thing. Yes, 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:49.599 I will do my thing. So that's what I how 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:53.840 most artists know me, and I would be supplying not 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:56.120 just three D Retro, I personally, I would be supplying 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:59.800 other stores too, because I got an account overseas at 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:02.640 that time, a big company and artists called Ashley Wood 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:06.080 doing three A stuff. So yeah, so that's how I 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:11.480 kind of got all connected with everybody and through the retro, 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:16.280 Ben decide to open the store. Yeah, and Designer con 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:19.240 started growing, so he he asked me to come on 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:23.080 board nice with him. That's basically the story of how 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:25.920 I with Ben and through the retro and Designer coom. 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.000 What up? You always stopp in an interview real quick 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.920 to tell you about our good friends. 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And then obviously a single item, 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:10.400 right yeah, single item, A single item that the most 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:14.320 expensive single item we've ever sold is about ten thousand. 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:18.880 It's a one thousand percent barbrick, and that was retail. 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:23.040 That was the retail. That was retail. It's made out 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:27.160 of wood. Wow. And we only had one and we 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:30.600 sold it in the pandemic. We decided, we don't know 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:32.320 if then we're going to put it up. So we 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:35.679 had our designer come twenty twenty during live stream. So 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:38.840 we put it up, sold it within like under a second. 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:42.520 That was gone wow. Right, But the last two years 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:46.120 we sold like eight thousand dollars ones. There was a 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:51.000 carbon fiber one thousand percent barbrick through the store. I 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:54.680 sold it to a musician. I don't know if I 0:09:54.679 --> 0:10:00.960 can say, okay, I don't think they care. Mustar Mustard, Yeah, 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.360 he special ordered it because I was like, if you 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:06.920 want this, this is the price, you know retel. Yeah, 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:10.199 so Mustard bought an eight thousand dollars bear break carbon fiber. Wow. 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:13.520 That's pretty. It's light, but it's specially made. You know. 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:17.400 Would you say Mustard's got a pretty crazy toy collection. Yeah. 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:20.000 I think I helped him a little bit on that. Yeah. 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:23.600 He he liked the one thousand percent so uh, he 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:26.000 comes to me like, hey, what you got? Yeah, you know, 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:28.440 we we are store carriers like you saw. Yeah, you 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:30.880 guys have a lot of bunch of stuff, but certain 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:34.120 special ones. We only get a few pieces. So I 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:38.800 will call the special people. Hey, you know I only 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.080 got two, right, you know, if you want him? What 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:44.400 about Ben Bollers huge with the bare bricks and he's 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:46.600 got a crazy toy collection. Is he somebody who you've 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:50.439 supplied the four in the past? Yes, we we we 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.480 we work we in the past. I got him a 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:58.240 Nike speed Bear bricks like, we got like three, and 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:02.120 obviously I keep one, Ben keeps one. I got one 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:06.120 for sale. So so when you guys keep stuff, you 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:09.199 are you are a collector still to this? Oh yeah yeah, 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:13.560 So what's your house looked like a mess? A mess? Uh, 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:17.360 A lot of toys and sneakers. I'm a sneaker that 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:20.800 all the sneakers and you brought them back? Oh yeah yeah. 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:25.319 Obviously what got me back was the Kobe Eights. Actually, 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:29.000 so I got into sneakers in two thousand and one 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:33.360 or two for from Sb's right, But I got back 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:37.080 in from the Kobe Eights because they were all about art. 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:40.360 At that point in my life, I like designers, toys, art, 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:44.280 So the Kobe Eights were all about art and Tristan, 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:48.280 which is a friend and artist he did something with 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:52.160 at that time. There's a Nike vault as Stable Center, 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.600 Crypto dot com whatever, there's a store there. He did 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:58.920 a special sock with the one of the preludes. So 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:02.560 like everything's a about art, the whole model, you know. 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:06.560 So I just got back into it. Somebody who might 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:08.959 not be famous, just a customer you have in mind, 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:13.160 like who who? Like how crazy is like your guys' 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:18.439 biggest customers toy collection? So I'm sure you have a few, 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:21.839 do we do? We have a few regular people, right. 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:23.200 I don't know what they do. I don't know what 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:26.840 they make, but they spend every time we do live streaming. 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:32.080 Still for the store, they spend about two k per show. 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Yeah, 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:05.760 So this is series four artists, series four every year. 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:09.440 So the idea behind it is in twenty eighteen, when 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:14.040 we moved to Anaheim, Meticom came and said they went, 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:18.240 they're looking for a North American partner like Convention, right, Yeah, 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:21.280 So they loved our show. They came out, the President 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:25.200 came out. So in twenty nineteen we started our first artistry. 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:27.240 So what we want to do with our platform is 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:30.920 we want to give American artists that usually don't have 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:34.880 an opportunity to put their art on on this platform 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.160 because they're from Japan. Right, So a lot of like 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.760 for people wo don't know Baybrick's Japanese companies, a lot 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:43.040 of Japanese arts probably getting mostly Japanese Asia Company because 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:46.720 when they see it, like their department, they're scouting people. 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:49.280 They left certain artists. It's a lot of Asian, a 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:51.520 lot of Asian artists. So what we did is we 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:55.240 decided to put artists that's affiliated with designer comn that's 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:58.120 been doing designer com for years or done collab with 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:03.080 us in some kind of capacity and also mostly Americans. 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:07.800 This year we have someone from the UK. But but 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:10.600 but he's been supporting Designer Come for over ten years. Wow, 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:14.400 so doctor A is to the thing. Yeah. So doctor 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:18.440 A does a lot of like those robot style mech 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:21.400 figures and he does everything in resent. He'll be at 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:25.160 designer Com this week this weekend. Bobby and then Bobby 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:28.000 hundreds that's the cool one, you know. The one hundred 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:31.560 was actually at the Designer Come twenty eighteen with a 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:34.760 Mister cartoon collapse and capsule. So they were part of 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:37.280 our show. And Bobby's been coming to design Com for 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:40.120 over ten years. He will always come with his son 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:42.520 and all that. Just have fun, just have fun. And 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:44.760 then we reach out and say, hey, you know, we 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:46.920 know that you're an artist yourself. Like he draws, he 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:50.360 does design graphic te's for his brand. So yeah, we 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:53.400 did this for our show. And then this is the 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:59.040 Obey the Obey guy Shephard Ferry. So this is one 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:03.360 of the proud moment. I would say, Ben will tell 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:07.280 you that it's a I love Obey everybody I think. Yeah, 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:10.879 I mean, listen, can we talk about iconic and iconic 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:13.760 American artists, right, I mean all the way to the 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:15.840 clothing line to this. Yeah, I mean I think back 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:20.080 to the Obama hope stuff. Yeah yeah. Yeah. And what's 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:23.320 funny is we did not realize that he's never done 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:27.800 a bear break before, and he's never done one. So 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:33.520 the opportunity came, i think earlier this year, and we 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:37.399 asked him if he was, you know, be willing to 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:40.320 do something like this. He's seen them, he wasn't sure 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:43.520 that he his art will work on this platform, and 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:45.600 we told him how a lot of different artists are 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:49.959 applying there are onto this platform, and uh, there you go. 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:54.440 So this is basically every bear brick is unique. This 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:58.720 is a water dip technology, so it's those are Yeah. 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:01.960 So it's one big image and then every time they 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:06.720 dip the figure into the process, it lands on there differently. 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:10.160 So every piece one, every single ones unique. There will 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:13.000 be no not this, not same one. The only thing 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:17.800 on here that's constant would be the logo right here. 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:20.640 Everything else will be different for every single one of them. 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:24.440 So this is the four hundred and one pack and 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:28.080 will be exclusively at Designer Con this week. Yeah. So 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:30.080 when people people show up and they really like, uh, 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:33.159 is it pretty frantic to get like to get some 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:38.200 of these items you guys do excluding or to collectors, 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:40.399 not crazy people like sneaker people, because you know sneaker 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:43.120 and like like when you when people go to complex Con, Okay, 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:46.440 there's a fucking wild like there's always like exclusives and 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:48.600 you'll see I've seen people. I mean, it gets it 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:50.720 can get hairy. But like our toy people is a 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:55.800 little more measured than sneaker people. Yes, so uh we 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:59.440 I've been to complex Con obviously. Uh, there's a two 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:01.679 different vibes. I can tell you that for people that 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:05.160 have never been to Designer call our thing is when 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:07.240 you go there, you're going to meet your favorite artists, 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:09.560 if you if you like a few artists, and a 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:12.360 lot of artists have like gallery openings throughout the year 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:14.840 throughout their career. You know, they get busy, right So 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:18.280 at our show, they're usually chill at their booth. They 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:20.520 just want to meet their fans and they're selling stuff. 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:22.800 They're selling stuff. A lot of them are selling stuff 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:26.280 that like they brought from their archives, like I have, 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:28.920 like Steve, I don't know if you know who Steve 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:31.679 Caballero is yeah, of course. Yeah, So I met him 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:34.159 a few years back and then we started making pins 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:38.080 like just for fun, like we're friends and yeah, but 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:41.159 he's an incredible artist. I didn't know that he's an 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:44.320 incredible artist. So he's been doing Designer can ever since. 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:46.919 I'm like, oh my god, you can draw like that, 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:50.000 like rat fing style, like that di era. And so 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:52.639 he will come and he will bring like shit that 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:55.919 you've never seen before. He'll be hey, I got the skateboard, right, 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:58.000 you know, stuff like that. A lot of artists this 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:01.120 year we have like Sean Claver as well, so from 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:04.720 the skating world, dirt artists everywhere. They're artists in every 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:09.040 you know, part of the industry. So that's that's what 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:11.919 you'll see Designer Car. Hey what have y'all? Bootleg keV 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:13.680 gott to stop the interview to tell you about our 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:16.680 newest sponsor. Man shout out to the homies at har Dean, 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:21.479 Las Vegas. That's right, then, number one dispensary in the 0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:25.320 whole state of Nevada, let alone in the whole fucking country. 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:29.040 So many choices of premium cannabis, ladies and gentlemen. 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Do you collect fun Co Pops? Uh? 0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:48.240 I don't collect them like crazy, but I do like 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:51.560 them in terms of the ipiece that they have because 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:54.560 there's certain movies, great great movies, movie waiting for them 0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:56.720 to do the Big Lebowski fund Go Pops. I don't 0:21:56.720 --> 0:21:59.000 know if they've ever done one, but I think they have. 0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:01.159 That's my favorite. I mean, there's so many things, but 0:22:01.359 --> 0:22:04.160 like they get every license, yeah they did, they do. 0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:05.840 You go to the store and you're just like Jesus, 0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:10.080 there's so many you can't so what what I like about? 0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:13.960 So we don't really. We did one Funko exclusive a 0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:16.600 couple of years back with Mark Hamill so his team, 0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:20.240 so we decided to release two three out of the 0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:24.240