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Speaker 1: Drive Time? Ryan Sex steps, John Ashley, Jaguars Drive Time

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Speaker 1: starts right now. Welcome in Jags Drive Time. Monday morning,

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Speaker 1: a beautiful Monday, as the Jaguars are on the practice

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Speaker 1: field right now. This drive Time is brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Jet Home Loans. The team is on the field

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Speaker 1: today and tomorrow as they get ready to face the

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles in the second preseason game on Thursday. No,

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Speaker 1: not bat field and there's no lines yet, John, So

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Speaker 1: they're not ready for Thursday. Quite yes, looks good at me.

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Speaker 1: Two more practices before the Eagles game. A lot of

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Speaker 1: work to do after we watch that first preseason game

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Speaker 1: last Thursday. Definitely a lot of work to do with

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Speaker 1: the depth. Guys, what are your takeaways from this last

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Speaker 1: game as we get into this week. Well, um, that

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Speaker 1: the depth is a concern, but I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: as much of a concern oh overall. In terms of

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Speaker 1: the teams. Maybe some fans are making out thirty players

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Speaker 1: didn't play, Brian, When thirty players don't play and all

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Speaker 1: your front line plays, I don't know how to gauge it.

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Speaker 1: I have a hot take on that coming up later on.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not worried about the team overall. Uh, it

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Speaker 1: has to stay healthy, and it doesn't stay healthy. It

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Speaker 1: sent me very good. I'm not worried about depth. I

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Speaker 1: mean there are some spots where you're not deep, but

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Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. Offensive line in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League is an area that lacks depth. Every team

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Speaker 1: deals with that. Now we get the news today that

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Speaker 1: Cam Robinson, who we were all worried, Oh, he's not

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Speaker 1: gonna be ready for the season. Now he's off pub. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so do you have a death problem there? No, I

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Speaker 1: guess not as I mean. Today's news doesn't intertident what

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Speaker 1: I mean. He's gonna be ready for the sea. It

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Speaker 1: sounded as if he wasn't gonna be ready at all,

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Speaker 1: And now today we find out it's coming off. I

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Speaker 1: wonder why we had to do that, Why we couldn't

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Speaker 1: just wait and see how it comes out, because I

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Speaker 1: know that Saturday I was getting all kinds of messages. Well,

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Speaker 1: so he's not being ready for the season, well not,

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Speaker 1: at least he's ready to practice. If that's the case,

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Speaker 1: then you have some measure of depth, because a boy

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Speaker 1: he seems like he's going to be a swing tackle.

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Speaker 1: Duwan Taylor, You're right, tackle doesn't have a serious knee injury,

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Speaker 1: just has Bruce right. So if you've got a third

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Speaker 1: tackle like a boy, he was sure he's able to

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Speaker 1: play right, Well, do you really have a death this year?

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Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing you don't know about left

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Speaker 1: the biggest question that was a question last year. Get

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Speaker 1: him off pub is step a. Will he be the

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Speaker 1: player as a rookie? He was good for a rookie,

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Speaker 1: but he definitely needed to get better and he really

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Speaker 1: wasn't at the beginning of last year. The book on

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Speaker 1: him was that he he still needs to get So

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Speaker 1: where is he going to be when he comes back?

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Speaker 1: Now that becomes the Cam Robinson story and Doug marone

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Speaker 1: or more offensive line but one time offensive line bade

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Speaker 1: hires George Warhop, who was his offensive line coach when

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Speaker 1: he came into the league, and a guy he knows well.

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Speaker 1: And I'm told one of the reasons why it's to

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Speaker 1: develop can Roberts. Okay, now you get him on the

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Speaker 1: field and you start to work. I wouldn't expect to

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Speaker 1: see him play maybe a little bit against Miami if

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Speaker 1: he indeed is ready to go. Right, Um, I'd be

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Speaker 1: stunned if he plays but Miami, okay, but you know,

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Speaker 1: a week from now, do you get him a couple

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Speaker 1: of snaps? I just I'm not sure depth is really

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Speaker 1: the problem now. Okay, If you don't have Andrew Norwell

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Speaker 1: that's death. Because you've got a couple of guys who

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Speaker 1: of this. If you have injuries, you have no depth.

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Speaker 1: But offensive line is not the place, in my estimation,

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Speaker 1: to look for death in the NFL because you're not

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Speaker 1: likely to find no. But you have depth on the

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Speaker 1: defensive line as much as most teams did. I think

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Speaker 1: a measure of death. The key is just staying healthy.

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Speaker 1: Then of all the depth when you when you don't

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Speaker 1: one can expect that ast just Brian. If you play

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Speaker 1: but that's where the jumping off the bridge people I

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Speaker 1: think missed. Those guys don't play, you're done, so let's

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Speaker 1: see what happens when they do play. I I had

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Speaker 1: to call that it was a terrible game to walk.

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Speaker 1: It was a really terrible game to he engaged in

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Speaker 1: to try to make sense. But I knew what it was.

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Speaker 1: is ease the players in in game one and ease

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Speaker 1: the players out in Game four and try to get

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Speaker 1: work done in two preseason games. We can talk about

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Speaker 1: this ad nauseam. The future of the preseason. What it right?

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Speaker 1: You're not going to see many of your darters if

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Speaker 1: you're looking to judge the Jaguars, and there are two

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Speaker 1: thousand and nineteen season based on these four preseason games, right,

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Speaker 1: good luck, good luck. The result was no surprise, that's

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Speaker 1: for sure when you knew none of the starters from playing.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely could they have looked a little better, yeah, maybe, sure,

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Speaker 1: and people are giving a credit for absolutely. Right, let's

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Speaker 1: get right into big things. Big thing one is out

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Speaker 1: And big thing three is depth. We just talked about it. Guys.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about Gardner Minshew. I think it a little

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Speaker 1: just sort of see how he does. I don't think

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Speaker 1: there's a feeling. I've never gotten a feeling that that

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Speaker 1: they think that he's going to miss the first seven games.

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Speaker 1: Follow me, PUP is usually an injury reserve or usually

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Speaker 1: a place reserved. If you feel like he's not going

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Speaker 1: keep him on PUP week one. We'll see it. Sounds

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Speaker 1: now here's my thing, and I think I hit it

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Speaker 1: off the top of the show. Relax. The regular season

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Speaker 1: is a month away, and the dramatic change your team

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Speaker 1: feels that too, right, He said in his press conference.

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Speaker 1: He was frustrated on Saturday. Coach, don't let the frustration

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Speaker 1: next week. See where he's at. You've been You don't

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Speaker 1: and then I worry about them some other days, and

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Speaker 1: it stayed today. One practice. You walk off the feeling

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Speaker 1: like I'm not sure ever had that feeling before, and

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Speaker 1: now for fifteen twenty years, I covered really good teams

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Speaker 1: and for a the Jaguar that didn't. So I've never

431
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Speaker 1: really had this thing. I thought last year, boy, they're

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Speaker 1: going to be good. I didn't that. I just wrot

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Speaker 1: my phone bright especially here. I go back and forth,

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Speaker 1: and I just don't know. I just do not know.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that I can answer it for you.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'd just like to see this franchise over

437
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Speaker 1: time become like the Ravens have been, like the Steelers

438
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Speaker 1: are consistent. You know you're going to get that insistent

439
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Speaker 1: And where does it come from with the quarter right,

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what the Ravens are gonna

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Speaker 1: do now with Lamar Jackson. But you know, Roethlisberger has

442
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Speaker 1: been there for a long time, Aaron Rodgers has been

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Speaker 1: there for a long time. And if you get why

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Speaker 1: you have a good feeling right now. Absolutely, if you

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Speaker 1: get consistent quarterback play with Nick Foles this year, I

446
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Speaker 1: think you're going to be in the hunt in November

447
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Speaker 1: and December, I will say this, and I see as well.

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Speaker 1: He has looked much better in camp than I anticipated. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and maybe it's because I haven't seen a guy like

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Speaker 1: this in a while. Um. I expected just okay and

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Speaker 1: thought maybe some of the eagle stuff was just flashing

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Speaker 1: in good circumstances. I think he has looked better than

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Speaker 1: I thought he would. If you can't tell this morning,

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Speaker 1: I'm struggling with the highs and the lows. Right the

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Speaker 1: lows on Saturday, I know it's high today, Nick Foles

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Speaker 1: has been this. I want Kim to be the defining

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Speaker 1: personality of this team this year. You know, on defense,

458
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Speaker 1: you get the highs and the lows, with the emotional guys,

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Speaker 1: you know, the in goock ways and the Jalens. I

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Speaker 1: want Nick fools to be the personality. He's consistent. Just

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Speaker 1: give me the consistency which with with which he has

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Speaker 1: addressed the media with which he has addressed his teammates.

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Speaker 1: You gotta take the highs and lows out of this thing.

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Speaker 1: Fans are upset because they look bad and now they're

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Speaker 1: you know next week if they look good. It's too many.

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Speaker 1: It's preseason relaxing folds. In practice, they would feel better,

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Speaker 1: and then they haven't had a chance. Fresh practice is

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Speaker 1: just open for a short time this year. Let's just

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Speaker 1: wait and see. Even Keel, I just think it's so important.

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Speaker 1: It just feels high and low from Saturday to Monday,

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Speaker 1: and that that does not give me years of doing that.

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Speaker 1: The one thing I know is if you're going up

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Speaker 1: and down and up and down in the preseason, that's

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Speaker 1: a problem. You need to be consistent. Everyone needs to

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Speaker 1: know what this is about. It's about this, and I

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Speaker 1: don't feel that around this organization to that. Not this

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Speaker 1: morning at least. No, it's been a morning and it's

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Speaker 1: The Jaguars are on the practice field right now training camp,

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Speaker 1: preparing for the second preseason game on Thursday against the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: and we talked about how we have a lot of

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Speaker 1: confusion day, especially after Doug's press conference this morning. So

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Speaker 1: we have decided to make a new segment out a

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Speaker 1: bit called I d K. I don't know, I'm confused.

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Speaker 1: Someone give me answers, Brian, Let's start with you. I

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Speaker 1: d K. The tight ends. Yeah, the tight end's room

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Speaker 1: is a bit of a of a confusing mess right now,

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Speaker 1: and most of that is because that guy right there,

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Speaker 1: Josh Oliver, is rehabbing the hamstring and dream we're waiting

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Speaker 1: to find out where he's at. Jeff Swain did not

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Speaker 1: practice on Saturday or Sunday, and we'll find out where

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Speaker 1: he's at. Those are the two guy eyes. Carson Meyer's back.

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Speaker 1: He was a tryout guy. Uh. They signed a guy

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Speaker 1: from from Tampa whose name I don't even really know. Um,

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Speaker 1: they they they've they've got. The room has had more turnover.

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Speaker 1: They had the kid from UCF that got injured. Um,

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Speaker 1: they've had a lot of guys in there. And Ron

526
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Speaker 1: Middleton is really having to work his tail off to

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Speaker 1: figure it out. Now. We talked in the off season

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Speaker 1: when they signed Nick Foles, the tight end would be

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Speaker 1: a position that would be featured in this offense. John

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Speaker 1: d Philippo likes the tight end. Nick Foles used the

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Speaker 1: tight end. So this is a room that if they

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Speaker 1: get Josh Oliver and Jeff Swam back, it changes everything.

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Speaker 1: But until those two guys are back, all of these guys,

534
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Speaker 1: even Koyak and O'Shaughnessy, are interchangeable. None of them are

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Speaker 1: frontline starters. Most of them are guys that you would

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Speaker 1: have as your third, and yet you may be going

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Speaker 1: into the season with a bunch of threes trying to

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Speaker 1: play one of two. That room. They need those two

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Speaker 1: guys back. We'll see when they get there. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't know the extent of the Swain injury, hence the title, right.

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Speaker 1: Doug did say in in his press here today, they

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Speaker 1: are trying to get Oliver back by week one. That's there,

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Speaker 1: that's their goal. Swain is a little more concerned than

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Speaker 1: Oliver to me, just because rookies, I anticipated it taking

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Speaker 1: a few weeks for Olliver to get into it. Anyway, uh,

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Speaker 1: Swam being the veteran is the guy that they need

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Speaker 1: to be consistent. Anybody a really good camp. Yeah, so um,

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Speaker 1: you hope that that's not a thing that's going to linger. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And Denro mentioned this morning how excited he was when

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Speaker 1: they got Josh Oliver and he was having such a

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Speaker 1: great camp. He mentioned that that was the one that

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Speaker 1: he really wanted back with Josh Oliver. Well, and they

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Speaker 1: have said that it might take some time, but it

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Speaker 1: wasn't season ending, so they will get him back. But

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Speaker 1: right now the room is a bit confusing. Yeah, new

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Speaker 1: bodies in and out every week, all right. I d

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Speaker 1: k about the running backs and I say this because

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Speaker 1: I can't help. But back to last year when Leonard

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Speaker 1: Furnette went down for almost most of the season, there

560
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Speaker 1: was a huge drop off in the running back room. Now,

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Speaker 1: Riquell Arms said has a similar running style to Leonard Fournette.

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Speaker 1: They drafted him at a temple, but he got a

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Speaker 1: concussion on Thursday and you don't know if he's gonna

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Speaker 1: stay healthy. Benning Cunningham was the veteran presence in that room.

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Speaker 1: He was cut. Alfred Blue is also a veteran presence,

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Speaker 1: so that gives me some solidity, but Thomas Rawls is

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Speaker 1: dealing with injuries as well, and I just can't help

568
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Speaker 1: but go back. If Leonard Fournett cannot stay healthy this

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Speaker 1: entire season, can Riquel Armstead pick up that load and

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Speaker 1: be the solid number two? Or Alfred Blue? Well, that's

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Speaker 1: why Alfred Blues here is to quell your fears by

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Speaker 1: id case. Yeah, I mean, but he's not going to

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Speaker 1: be a Pro Bowl But that's exactly why he's here.

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Speaker 1: If we don't have Leonard, what are we getting from

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Speaker 1: from the rookie. At the time they signed Alfred who,

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Speaker 1: they didn't know who who the rookie would be. But

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Speaker 1: it's exactly why he's here. I liked what I saw

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Speaker 1: from him on on Thursday. On the carries he had,

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Speaker 1: he looked exactly like he did in Houston. He looked

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Speaker 1: like a guy who if there's four yards there, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna get you four yards. He's probably not gonna turn

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Speaker 1: a five yard play into a twenty five yard play,

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Speaker 1: but if you give him the ball, he's gonna get

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Speaker 1: With the players there and so um, as long as

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Speaker 1: he's healthy, I could easily see Blue being the guy

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Speaker 1: who by mid season everybody's going pretty good player. I

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Speaker 1: thought he was. Yeah, So I mean that could be

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Speaker 1: one of those signings. He's a veteran, savvy NFL professional

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Speaker 1: running back. You can't go to his stats against the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars and and say he beat the Jaguars or burned

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars. But you can go to a couple of runs,

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Speaker 1: a couple of plays a third and three where he

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Speaker 1: gets sixteen yards or catches a swink pass out of

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Speaker 1: the back though that are memorable from his time with

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Speaker 1: the Texans. He was the Jaguars exactly. That's what you're getting.

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Speaker 1: I was excited watching Roquell armstead Um before the concussion.

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Speaker 1: Now you don't know. Those are very difficult to figure

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Speaker 1: out as well. Um, he's raw right the third and one,

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Speaker 1: but he's not scared. No, it's hard. No, he does

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Speaker 1: the third and one where he should have just followed

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Speaker 1: the tight end and gotten the first down. He tried

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Speaker 1: to cut back. When I say he's raw, he thinks

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Speaker 1: he can do here what he did at Temple. You can't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's coaching, right, They'll get him there. Terry Robiski is

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Speaker 1: a veteran coach. He'll get him there. As long as

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have a lingering concussion problem this year and

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Speaker 1: can stay on the field, I think you've got depth there.

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Speaker 1: I think you've got something you can rely on. Remember

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Speaker 1: last year before the draft, I kept pounding the table.

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Speaker 1: You need a guy that runs like Burnet so that

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Speaker 1: you don't lose your personality, and they didn't have it

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Speaker 1: when Chris Ivory left. That was gone. Kid runs like

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Speaker 1: for net. Now they've got guys that run like for net. Good.

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Speaker 1: You need that, that's your personality. The mistake you pointed

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Speaker 1: out is the easiest mistake to correct in the NFL

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Speaker 1: with it running back, and that's purely like you said,

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Speaker 1: it's a faster game at this level. There are certain

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Speaker 1: cuts he can't make. Uh. It's a trust thing. Is

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Speaker 1: a couple of things we saw with Armstead where when

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Speaker 1: he sees a hole, the legs go high and he's in.

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Speaker 1: He reminded me of a lot of those Denver Broncos

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Speaker 1: running backs. It was one cut and go down hill

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Speaker 1: as quickly as possible. It's a trust factor. The coaches

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Speaker 1: John d Philippo, Terry Robiski, Doug Marone have to trust

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Speaker 1: he's going to do what they tell him. To do,

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Speaker 1: and then he has to trust that the hole is

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Speaker 1: going to be there and do it and not try

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Speaker 1: to be Fred Taylor. Bounce it out and go eight.

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Speaker 1: Just get the yard. That's all we need, right, get

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Speaker 1: the first town. All right, John, you are the biggest

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Speaker 1: I Yet I have no idea what's going with the

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Speaker 1: offensive line, and um it's not really their fault necessarily,

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Speaker 1: but we've discussed Cam Robinson ad nauseum. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what it's going to be when he gets back. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he's going to be back by week one,

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Speaker 1: and then if he's not, I don't really know who

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Speaker 1: the guy is behind him. I like the way that

638
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: Josh Wells played when he's been healthy, but he hasn't

639
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: been healthy enough. Centrica boy clean, you know all of

640
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: that stuff with left tackle. Here we are again with

641
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Speaker 1: Andrew Norwell. I thought last year he didn't really get

642
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: a fair shake from some people in during the season

643
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: because he had lingering stuff all season. When now he's

644
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: got a training camp deal and he's out for two days.

645
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Speaker 1: So what are we going to get from that? What

646
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: is that combination of Norwell and Lender when they're healthy,

647
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: when they signed those guys to the big contracts. You thought, Okay,

648
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: they're gonna be dominant in that area, maybe because of injuries,

649
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: maybe because of whatever. I've never seen dominance out of

650
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: that duo, and and I've seen good, but you haven't

651
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: seen what that. Now you move over to the right

652
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: to the right guard spot A j can is he

653
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: gonna start? Is it gonna be Will Richardson? Is it

654
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: gonna be Brandon Thomas? And then you've got uncertainty over

655
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Speaker 1: the right tackle because John Taylor's hurt. I feel I

656
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: don't think you have uncertainty there. But we haven't seen it.

657
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: Well not you've seen it on the practice field, and

658
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: Doug Maron said last y, d K, you don't know

659
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: because he hadn't seen I saw it on the practice field.

660
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: And Doug said last week in the production meeting for

661
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: the TV broadcast that those reps, he's going as valuable

662
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: as I think he's your best offensive lineman. I think

663
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Speaker 1: Well Richardson is going to be your right guard. Linda

664
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Speaker 1: concerns me only that he's missed twelve starts the last

665
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: two years, and he's had trouble with injuries over the

666
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: course of his career. Nor Well I don't know what

667
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: to make of The left tackle situation is obviously there.

668
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: Now they've got some answers, but how long do the

669
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Speaker 1: centric wayhee Josh Wells. You know they've got to kind

670
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,479
Speaker 1: of sort this out. All this is there is hope.

671
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: It's not like you And if Richardson's taking Can's job,

672
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: Can can be a swing to either side, Right, can

673
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Speaker 1: play center. He's a Tyler shadlet um and you've got

674
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Speaker 1: another Tyler shadolet So you've got some options there. Here's

675
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: the one thing. I go back to what I said, calm,

676
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: take a deep breath. There's still a month a month

677
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,959
Speaker 1: before you have to play a game a month. Here's

678
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 1: the thing about the offensive line that does give you hope. Um.

679
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 1: It's easy to forget because has been so many storylines

680
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: around here the last couple of years. You had this

681
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: exact feeling about the offensive line In two thousand seventeen

682
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 1: in preseason. Remember in that last preseason game, if memory serves,

683
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: they played guys into the fourth preseason game trying to

684
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: find starters, and and they led the league in rushing.

685
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: Right now, I don't think it was a dominant offensive

686
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: line that year, but it was sure good enough to

687
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: set a franchise record for a few of sex and

688
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: lead league in rushing. So it's not like you can't

689
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: get from here to there, but they still have to

690
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: get from here today. Well, you have two young tackles

691
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: a third if you count Richardson, who's gonna play guard

692
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: for you. You've got pieces in place, and you've got

693
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 1: solid backup guys who can play in short first guys

694
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: like Wells shot like, you've got guys, but w d K,

695
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: we don't know. You have a month, so nobody needs

696
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: to make a decision today. Let it play out. The stress,

697
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: The stress is real. Steady, all right, we come back.

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Speaker 1: I'll wrap up the show with some ozone snapshot on

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727
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: with someone who's just trying to win lunch. So much

728
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: for the whole winning lunch philosophy. Now it looks like

729
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: we're trying to avoid guys choking on sandwiches. We've got

730
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: to hope our starters don't go down because the cupboard

731
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: looks empty. And that's the story with thirty one teams.

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Speaker 1: There's um if you're judging any NFL team on and

733
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: this isn't accurate, but numbers thirty one through the bottom

734
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: of the roster, and that's not quite what it was.

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Speaker 1: There are better players, isn't it. But any team that

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Speaker 1: played that number, uh, but have a very similar result.

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Speaker 1: And I'm kind of with you, Brian. Defense held the

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Speaker 1: Ravens to five field and the one touchdown dry they

739
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: give up I think had two penalties on it. It

740
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: was um right, don't fret that that much. If the

741
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: front line guys on this team, where the front line

742
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: guys are, say there's fifteen, if thirteen of those guys

743
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: including Folds and Klaias and Jalen, maybe to the end

744
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: of the season, then I think this team is going

745
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: to have a shot and be in thirteen of its

746
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: sixteen game being the conversation, and if things go right, wins,

747
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: and I think they're fine on that front. But I

748
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: think I've already said I fundamentally disagree with with Jaden

749
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: from Okinawa's premis that the cover is bear. I think

750
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: there's receiver running back. I mean, you could point out

751
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: there may be a lack of depth, right, but there's

752
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 1: plenty of talent around there. If you lose your starters,

753
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: I just know you're not winning. There's no depth in

754
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Speaker 1: The last deep team that I remember in the NFL

755
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: was Dallas Cowboys, who lost everyone the next year when

756
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: free agency became the norm. You know, the last quarterback

757
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: depth I remember was Joe Montana and Steve Young, Right,

758
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: I mean maybe Carson Wentz and Nick Poles. Okay, but

759
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen. Depth does and exist in the free

760
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: agent era. That's the way it was designed, players to

761
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: go to other places. The one they remember about preseason

762
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: two is if there are two or three guys on

763
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: the field who aren't going to make the team on

764
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: a given unit, that will get exposed and make everybody

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Speaker 1: look bad, So I'm keep it in perspective. It is

766
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: such a team game that if you're playing with two

767
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: offensive lineman that you know aren't gonna be on the

768
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: roster and you're trying and evaluate him and they give

769
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 1: up sex and get you beat, then all of a sudden,

770
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: it looks. It makes everybody look bad, even guys who

771
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: are there who aren't at that level. I'll give you

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Speaker 1: one more guy watching the one on one pass rush

773
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: drills in Baltimore against the Ravens. Daytone Jones, former first

774
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Speaker 1: round pick, and he's bounced around the Vikings, the Lions,

775
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, the Niners. He's been around a little bit,

776
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Speaker 1: but he's back with Dom Capers, who drafted him and

777
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: knows what he does well. Well, that's depth at big

778
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: end me because Daven Brian didn't win the job last year.

779
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: And you're not asking Daytone Jones come on and be

780
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: Calais Campbell right. He can't. It's not what he is,

781
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: but he represents depth. If he can play ten snaps

782
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: right like he played against the raven push the pocket,

783
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: you have to collapse it, push play well for ten

784
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: snaps a game that is depth. And he's a guy

785
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: if he's playing with ten other starters, it's death. It's fine. Well,

786
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: he's a nice edition to why. I think the defensive

787
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: line is deeper than it's been around here in a while.

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Speaker 1: I think you've got some jade online. Yeah that's fair.

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Speaker 1: So what's your mail bag breaking out Thursday night? Yea, yeah,

790
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: I can tell. Let's go upon a Vedra beach John

791
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: my simple analysis of Thursday night's game, The Jags backup

792
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: quarterback is currently not on the roster. Police, he cannot

793
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: be on the roster. Go Jack's Well. There was a

794
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: lot of answer for Gardner Minshew and I get it

795
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Speaker 1: because the first team or whatever team that was, it

796
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: was playing offensive the nights. That look good. Um, I

797
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: think we covered this as well. Minshoe is not a

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00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: guy who's going to come in and carry ten guys

799
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: who are not as good as he is. I think

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00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: the question will remain what can he do if he's

801
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: playing with the starting unit, if he's playing with a

802
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: first team game plan, if he's got his receivers an

803
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: offensive line, they can protect him. I don't think he's

804
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: going to be a guy who can drop back and

805
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: make the eighteen yard out when that's the thread has

806
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: to be made. But can he function within a game

807
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: plan set up better than say, Cody Kesler did last year.

808
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: I was just about to bring that name up because

809
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 1: we're going to see him on Thursday night for Philadelphia.

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00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: That's the That's what you want is a guy who

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Speaker 1: can carry for a couple of games and get you

812
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: through with the tools he has around him. Cody Kesler

813
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: was the backup quarterback year last year. Now the Eagles

814
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: are playing with him as their backup because Nate Sudfeld

815
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: broke his risk, right, Cody Kesler went to the Eagles

816
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 1: to be the third quarterback. That's the story in Philadelphia

817
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: this morning, that the third guy is going to have

818
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: to play, So find me a backup quarterback in the league.

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Speaker 1: They had an abundance of riches in Philadelphia last year

820
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: when they had Nick Foles, but guess what they couldn't

821
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: do keep him exactly? Might you be better if you

822
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: had Chad Henny? Yeah, but it'd cost you five million bucks. Right,

823
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 1: it's the backup quarterback. If you lose your starter, your

824
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: chances to be a contender take a precipitous nose time. However,

825
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: as I said in quick thought, they must have a

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Speaker 1: plan of how they can be effective with him, and

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Speaker 1: if every other starter is healthy and he has to

828
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Speaker 1: play a couple of games for you, they probably have

829
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Speaker 1: a plan an offensive scheme that will allow them to

830
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: have a chance. Well, that's what your backup quarterback is

831
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: supposed to be. No more, Steve Young. You don't have

832
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: that guy anymore. You gotta go and find a guy

833
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: and develop a guy. Minshew looks like the guy that

834
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: you hope to develop into a long term back. All right,

835
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Speaker 1: let's wrap it up with Jim from Jacksonville. I didn't

836
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Speaker 1: enjoy watching our first preseason game, but I understand the

837
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Speaker 1: reason for the decision. What should we expect from the

838
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: next few preseason games? How much will we see our starters? Well,

839
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Speaker 1: I think that's more of the same. I am more

840
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: the same for week two. I think the question mark

841
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: is a week three do is the desire? That's an

842
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: eight and these coaches to have a dress rehearsal game,

843
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: which that goes back from the beginning of time in

844
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 1: this league practically to where you do things a certain

845
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: way Week three and play guys week four is obviously

846
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Speaker 1: not complain anybody, So I would think I'm leaning more

847
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Speaker 1: and more toward toward Week two being very much the same.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know is week three. The Rams last

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Speaker 1: year did not play a single starter in the preseason. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they had been played there at first. They had made

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Speaker 1: up to the playoffs the week the year before with

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Speaker 1: much that same offense. So there's a little bit more

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Speaker 1: of a trust. That's why I wonder if you didn't

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Speaker 1: do it at least once. I'm going bigger picture than

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Speaker 1: just that. I'm saying that we we are right now

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Speaker 1: in the in the middle of the fundamental shift of question.

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Speaker 1: It is happening right now. There's the push for the

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Speaker 1: a team game schedule. I don't know whether that happens

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Speaker 1: two preseason games seems to be imminent to one that

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Speaker 1: you'll play your starters and one that you won't. We

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Speaker 1: are in the midst of it. I'll say this. The

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Speaker 1: anxiety that was felt in this building on Saturday about

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars injury report, and there isn't even an injury

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Speaker 1: report injury situation would tell me that we're going to

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Speaker 1: see more of the same. Because Doug has, using his

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Speaker 1: own words, change his philosophy He's gone hard in the

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Speaker 1: paint with his philosophy and you can't change that. Now.

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Speaker 1: He is working to get his team ready for the

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Speaker 1: regular season, and I understand that. I get it. If

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Speaker 1: I were him, I would be trying to do the

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Speaker 1: exact same thing. The question is do they need anytime? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's why I think week three you'll be intrigued.

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Speaker 1: But Doug has made it known. The philosophy is what

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Speaker 1: it's going to be. So he can't go back on

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Speaker 1: his word now. He's his whole off season was geared

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Speaker 1: towards this philosophy. You can't now go well, wait, hold on,

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Speaker 1: now I'm gonna play Now I'm gonna change it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's not what that's for. He'll regret that too. Go

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Speaker 1: with the philosophy that you've got. It worked for the Rams.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're seeing other teams, and it makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Other teams are sitting guys. You won't see a lot

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Speaker 1: of Eagles either, just a little bit maybe. Alright, stay tuned.

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Speaker 1: After practice, quarterback Nick Foles will be speaking to the media.

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Speaker 1: We'll have that live on Jaguars dot Com. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back Wednesday morning for the next Jaguars Drive Time. See

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Speaker 1: you then