1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty and now he Armstrong and Getty. 4 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 3: What we're seeing is arguably the largest ever conflict in 5 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 3: the Middle East, with eleven countries that have been hit 6 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 3: by Iranian missiles or drones that, as Israeli officials tell 7 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 3: me that they believe they'd run, still has about twenty 8 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 3: five hundred ballistic missiles which the US and Israel are 9 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 3: systematically working to destroy. 10 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 4: Largest conflict ever in the Middle East. And now that's 11 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 4: saying something. Arianna has struck eleven countries. 12 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 1: Doctor Jeff mccauslan joins us to discuss the conflict unfolding 13 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: in the Middle East. Jeff, of course, CBS News Military consultant, Jeff, 14 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: how are you, sir? 15 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 5: Very busy, guys afraid of I'll bet this. 16 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: Has unfolded, I'd imagine. 17 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: So, so, what are your impressions of the conflict as 18 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: it's taken shape so far? 19 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 5: Well, again, this is, first of all, is a war 20 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 5: of choice, not a war of necessity. I still think 21 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 5: the administration has been able to provide an answer to 22 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 5: what was the imminent threat that required this to go 23 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 5: down when it did. Now, there's no doubt there's been 24 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 5: continued conflict between the Iranians and the United States since 25 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 5: nineteen seventy nine when the revolution occurred, but that still 26 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 5: doesn't explain why things occurred. Right now, there's no evidence 27 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 5: have been preparing for an attack. There's no evidence that they 28 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 5: were that close to creating a nuclear weapon. They were 29 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 5: trying to recover that, but even our Secretary of State 30 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 5: so they were no longer enriching nuclear material. And this 31 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 5: whole question of regime change seems to be one that 32 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 5: the administration is very unclear about. They certainly want to 33 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 5: reduce Iran's ability to project threats in the region blisting 34 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 5: missile capabilities. They certainly want to ensure that IRNS does 35 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 5: not moved towards a newcure weapon. But the President said, 36 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 5: we're going to accept established conditions whereby the Iranian people 37 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 5: could rise up and take over the government. Now I 38 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 5: can see, as an old military guy, how you can 39 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 5: use military force to destroy the blistic missiles, and I 40 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 5: can see how you can use military force to grade 41 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 5: their NUCRI capabilities. I don't see how you can use 42 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 5: air power and naval power alone to affect that type 43 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 5: of a political transformation on the ground. And then, of 44 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 5: course the last thing I would say, of course, the 45 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 5: war is escalated vertically with more and more attacks on Iran, 46 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 5: and as you guys suggested, has escalated horizontally now to 47 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 5: include eleven countries across the region. It also is expanded 48 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 5: by the Israelis and now have attacked hets flow on Lebanon. 49 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 5: And of course we're seeing the stock markets Royal and 50 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 5: the aftermath, and we've seen the price of oil go 51 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 5: up to about eighty five bucks a barrel as essentially 52 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 5: the Straits of Horror moves. We're about twenty percent of 53 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 5: all oil and natural gas passes through to the globe 54 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 5: have effectively been shut down, whether the Iranians can do 55 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 5: that militarily or it's just shut down because of fears 56 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 5: by maritime countries for the safety of their tankers and 57 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 5: crews or even insurance costs. Until does matter that particularly 58 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 5: area has been shut down, which will continue to affect 59 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 5: the global economy in greater and greater fashion as the 60 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 5: days go on. 61 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 4: So why do you think Iran attacked all those countries 62 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 4: near them? How is that supposed to help them. 63 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 64 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 5: I think that was frankly a strategic era on their part. 65 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 5: I think what they thought was that those countries, once attacked, 66 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 5: would then put pressure on Washington to try to seas 67 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 5: and desist, bring this to a close, and allow the regime, 68 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 5: albeit bruised in Iran, to survive, because for them, this 69 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 5: is an existential moment. I think the reverse has happened, 70 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 5: and in fact, what they have done is really solidify 71 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 5: opposition the region to Iran. And you'd understand that there's 72 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 5: no love loss between the Iranians and all of these 73 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 5: sticker countries in the Middle East. The monarchies in the 74 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 5: Gulf facuities qataris, Amortis, Kuwaitis, et cetera, have long been 75 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 5: opposed to Iran. They are Sunni countries. Largely, Iran is 76 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 5: almost solely a she Eite country around since the revolution 77 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 5: in nineteen seventy nine, it's been trying to export revolution 78 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 5: so called political Islam across the region, a threat to 79 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 5: those monarchies. The Saudis believe they have tried several times 80 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,239 Speaker 5: to incite Shea heights in the eastern provinces where Sali 81 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 5: oil is. They've attacked Saudi Arabia before, of course, in 82 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 5: terms of in twenty nineteen Saudi oil refineries, so there's no. 83 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 2: Great love loss. 84 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 5: But I think they thought that the Iranians, that this 85 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 5: would cause the United States to be pressured to restraint, 86 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 5: and so far, at least the opposition the opposite. 87 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: Is, i'd say, doctor Jeff mccauslon online from CBS News, Jeff, 88 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: I've got to admit I see things a little differently 89 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 1: than you. I see a malign regime that has spilled 90 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: more American blood than any other over the course of decades. 91 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: So just no sign of reforming, has no popular support 92 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: among its people, in which is by hook or by crook, 93 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: desperately trying to develop nuclear weapons. And you know that 94 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: the in terms of the urgency to act, the one 95 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: argument I've heard that's somewhat compelling is that Israel saw 96 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: an irresistible opportunity and that the when the Iranians counter 97 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: attacked Israel, they would hit all of our bases and 98 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: hit them hard. Therefore, we said to our ally, Okay, 99 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: now is the time, let's do this. 100 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, there's a lot of bad there's a lot 101 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 5: of bad countries around the world. I mean North Korea 102 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,559 Speaker 5: comes to mind, and they have the ability to actually 103 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 5: strike us with a nuclear weapon potentially, so and frontmore, 104 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 5: You're exactly right. There's been a lot of bloods built 105 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 5: in the Iranians, who certainly I have a autocratic, despicable regime. 106 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 5: I mean no tears for the Iotola, for sure. But 107 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 5: the question is how and the win. And it seems 108 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,679 Speaker 5: to me if you go back to two thousand and three, 109 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 5: which is the imperfect metaphor, Bush made the case to 110 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 5: the United Nations or why Iraq was a threat. The 111 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 5: entire State of the Union in two thousand and three 112 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 5: was devoted to the American people explain to them why 113 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 5: this was going to have to occur. He created a 114 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 5: coalition of the willing of forty eight countries that were 115 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 5: participating initially from the very onset, and that took your conflict. 116 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 5: And of course he enmasked a major force in the region, 117 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 5: not air in naval, but also ground to affect that. 118 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 5: Then mister Trump made no attempt to argue this in 119 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 5: the nation. He spent three minutes on it during his 120 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 5: State of the Union address, did not go to Congress. 121 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 5: Bush went to Congress and got seventy seven Senators to 122 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 5: vote in favor. So they had the entire American people 123 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 5: behind this, which I think could have strengthened mister Trump's 124 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 5: efforts in this regard. And then finally, of course, it 125 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 5: seems to me the tails wagon the dog here. I 126 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 5: understand the Israelis were going to might want to attack, 127 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 5: but they're the junior partner in this allif so, I 128 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 5: didn't know that we were going to allow major decisions 129 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 5: on going to war and major decisions on the American 130 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 5: foreign policy to be made by Benjamin Nette Yahoo in Jerusalem, 131 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 5: as opposed to being made in Washington. 132 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: So I've got a military question. 133 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 4: I keep hearing that the aircraft carriers can only sit 134 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 4: there for a certain amount of time before they can't 135 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 4: just sit there. What's the story on that? How long 136 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 4: can they sit there? And why can't they sit there? 137 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 5: Well, I'm not a navy guy, but you can sustain 138 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 5: those things for a long period of time. I mean, 139 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 5: take the USS gerald Ford operating now in the Eastern Mediterranean. 140 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 5: It left Port on its current operation in June of 141 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 5: last year, so it's been under way for about eight 142 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 5: months or more. It was in the eastern Mid it 143 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 5: went to the Caribbean, of course, for the strikes on 144 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 5: Venezuela and Colombian drug boats coming out there in the 145 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 5: operation to take down Maduro. Now has returned to the 146 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 5: Eastern med The record, as I understand it for a 147 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 5: carrier operation in the modern age is about ten months 148 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 5: or so, and if they get into May, then the 149 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 5: gerald Ford will cross that line. But it seems to 150 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 5: me up until that point at least, so these can 151 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 5: be operated pretty and definitely, all that being said, over time, 152 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,559 Speaker 5: of course, maintenance becomes a major problem with the ship 153 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 5: and the aircraft, and you've got to sustain it. And 154 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 5: an operation like this underscores, if you will, that old 155 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 5: adage for World War Two, that strategy intact exits for 156 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 5: amateurs and logistics and sustainment is for professionals. 157 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: Speaking of which, how concerns should Americans be about our 158 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: stockpile of armaments after arming Ukraine in particular, and then 159 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: this conflict because our manufacturing base is not what it 160 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: used to be from what I understand. 161 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, it has up a good bit since the Ukrainian 162 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 5: War began, But you're exactly right, there is a concern. 163 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 5: I've seen that voice by experts in varying side. Administration 164 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 5: said no, no, no, we have plenty of weaponry, but 165 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 5: of course the total arsenal is classified. But I'm sure 166 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 5: people depending on are very worried about the fact that, 167 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 5: of course we transferre an awful lot of weaponry to 168 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 5: the Ukrainians in over the last couple of years. Yeah, 169 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 5: we also expended a lot of ordnance on our own 170 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 5: in fighting the Huthis down in the Red Sea about 171 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 5: a year or so ago. And we also expend a 172 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 5: lot of ordinance defending Israel during the couple of years 173 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 5: of the war in the Gaza Strip in Iran and 174 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 5: others attacked Israel. So there is a real concern about 175 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 5: sustaining that that industrial stockpile and a lot of what 176 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 5: the you know. For example, big Beautiful Bill which was 177 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 5: passed in the last few months included a plus up 178 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 5: of one hundred and fifty billion dollars on the defense 179 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 5: pudget over the over several years to come, a good 180 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 5: portion of that money going to expanding the industrial base. 181 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 5: And even prior to this operation, administration had talked about 182 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 5: delivering its FY twenty seven defense budget at the rather 183 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 5: you know, eye watering the top line of about one 184 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 5: and a half trillion dollars for the year, which would 185 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 5: be a five hundred billion dollar plus up in the 186 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 5: defense budget. Again, a good portion of that going to 187 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 5: expanding the industrial base and restocking the US arsenal weapons. 188 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: Right, Doctor Jeff mccauslin, Jeff, it's always pleasure. Thanks for 189 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: the time, my pleasure, all right, you know, it's it's funny. 190 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: And look, there's there's ambivalence and ambiguity. 191 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 2: All over this, as there always is with war, almost always. 192 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: But the example of how meticulous and thoroughly the Bush 193 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: White House prepared the nation and Congress and the UN 194 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: and everything for that conflict, the coalition of the willing 195 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: all those countries, and then then the execution of the 196 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: mission was miserable after the purely military part of it. 197 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: It's terrible, historically terrible. So it's just it's kind of 198 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 1: ironic that we cite that as this is the way 199 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: you do it. 200 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 6: Well. 201 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 4: I don't agree with Jeff mccauslin on any of that 202 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 4: stuff at the beginning, as if you've been listening you 203 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 4: would know that. And I'm glad he's not in charge 204 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 4: because I think he's wrong. But I know a lot 205 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 4: of you do agree with them because I look at 206 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 4: the texts, So yeah, he represents those arguments worth entertaining. 207 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: Of course, he represents the thoughts of a lot of you. 208 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: I don't agree. 209 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 4: I think waiting until it's an imminent threat is a 210 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 4: terrible idea. 211 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 2: So that's me. 212 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: Well, the history of the world is you wait too long. 213 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: But this debate will be ongoing, and it's an important 214 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: one and we're more than happy to engage with people 215 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: who disagree. 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Come on? 245 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 4: If there is no imminent threat, then why didn't they 246 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 4: accept free nuclear power? 247 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: Right? 248 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 4: If there is, If there's any belief that they're not 249 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 4: trying to get a nuclear weapon as fast as they can, 250 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 4: then why wouldn't they either allow all kinds of inspections 251 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 4: because we got nothing to hide here, We're just trying 252 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 4: to provide nuclear power. Because it's cheaper than the fossil 253 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 4: fuels or other countries had offered to give them nuclear power, 254 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 4: but they didn't want that. It's because they wanted to 255 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 4: build a bomb. So how long are you supposed to 256 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 4: wait until somebody? How close are the uield supposed to 257 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 4: allow them to get a bomb. 258 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: Especially a country who's motto is practically death to America? 259 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 2: Right? 260 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 4: And I don't think the North Korea example that he 261 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 4: used makes any sense because they already have a bomb. 262 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 2: That's why we can't do anything. 263 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 5: Now. 264 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 4: That's why you don't want a ran to get a bomb, 265 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 4: because once a country gets a bomb, like North Korea, 266 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 4: you have to let them do all kinds of crazy ass. 267 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: And in North Korea, No, that that was it's a 268 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: very bad comparison. We'll leave it there because we're out 269 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: of time. Very bad any thought. Number of levels. 270 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 4: Text line four one KFTC. So a couple of things 271 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 4: that have nothing to do with the war. First of all, 272 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 4: there's a new Pinocchio slasher movie out is it? What 273 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 4: is the rating on this? It's not for kids, isom 274 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 4: It took the childhood classic beloved Pinocchio, which is all 275 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 4: about if you lie, your appendages grow. 276 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 2: One of your. 277 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 4: Appendages grows, It's correct, which is not true. By the way, 278 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 4: no part of your body does grow. If you if 279 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 4: you tell him, if you, if you spread misinformation or disinformation. 280 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: I would agree. I would agree that you know it's 281 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: it's not for the kids. But the original Pinocchio was 282 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: actually very very dark story. 283 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:16,599 Speaker 2: I've forgotten that. 284 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 4: I mean full of like violence and abuse and that 285 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 4: sort of thing. Here's the trailer for the new slasher 286 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 4: Pinocchio movie. 287 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: Take Cory. 288 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: Peace, do make yourself. Okay, that sounds good. I'll take 289 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: the goods. Oh boy, all right? 290 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 2: And then. 291 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Katie, do you want to explain what this 292 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: next clip is. 293 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a podcast with these two guys and they have. 294 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: There are no other podcasts, just ours, but go on, 295 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: but this one no longer exists. It's only. 296 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 7: But they have a guest on that is translating the 297 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 7: beginning of The Lion King, when Raffiki is holding Simba 298 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 7: over the pride Land and it's that big dramatic moment saying. 299 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 6: Like, no, what does it mean? It means Look there's 300 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 6: a lion. Oh my god, what that means? That is 301 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 6: not what that means? 302 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 2: That's exactly. Look there's a lion. Oh my god, there's 303 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 2: a lion. 304 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 6: Oh my god. 305 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: That's funny. 306 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 4: You do it in another language and it seems so 307 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 4: like deep and mystical and powerful. You said, look there's 308 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 4: a lion. Oh my god, it's not quite as deep 309 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 4: and mystical. Well, how many buena vistas are there all 310 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 4: over the place. It just means a nice view, right right, right, 311 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 4: right right. 312 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it is a boy. I can't remember what 313 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 2: it was. 314 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 4: It was a movie or a song or something, but 315 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 4: it was one of those foreign phrases that sounds all mystical, 316 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 4: but if you put it in English, it's just so banal, 317 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 4: like the rock or something like that. 318 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: Right exactly. 319 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: We don't really have time for this, but I want 320 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: to highlight funk music in a little bit. 321 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: That's right, he said, funk p h O n k okay. 322 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: I don't know that music. 323 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: People making founk music are making zillions of dollars, mostly 324 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: because it's become the go to music to back up 325 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: videos short videos on like TikTok or YouTube in particular. 326 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 2: Just whatever wacky. 327 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: Video you're watching has that annoying music in the background. 328 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: You know what the hell, We're already talking about it. 329 00:16:54,480 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: Michael play thirteen for us talks about all we can 330 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: play because of weird podcast copyright laws. But uh, that's 331 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: that's the sort of music that is fong apparently, huh. 332 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 2: And is there money in that? 333 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: Oh, zillions of dollars because it's used in all of 334 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: those those YouTube videos and it's copywrited like any other 335 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: music is. 336 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 4: It's you know, if I'm surprised to use there aren't 337 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 4: more people that can make that for themselves, or so 338 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 4: many people making it that it's cheap. My son keeps 339 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 4: making these songs with some program on his iPad that 340 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 4: I'm just amazed, just musical stuff. He just adds all 341 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 4: these different things in. I'm like, oh, yeah, wow, that's incredible. 342 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 4: I would have loved being able to do that as 343 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 4: a kid. Oh yeah, it's effortless to make. 344 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: But then if yours gets hot for whatever reason, I 345 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: mean it's like you pay a three dollars, it's a 346 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: three dollars raffle ticket. And if for whatever reason your 347 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: fong track it's hot and people decide to use it, 348 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: then you get to enormous royalties. 349 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 2: FONK is a sleeping giants at the head of a 350 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 2: and are at a big digital. 351 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 4: Music I feel like you really enjoy saying that what 352 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 4: fong Gavin Newsom has an actual learning disorder, which is 353 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 4: pretty damned interesting. 354 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: Among other things. On the way Armstrong. 355 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 8: And get the Southwest Airlines so that they're refining their 356 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 8: new seating process amid complaints overboarding and bin space. Yep, 357 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 8: they're going back to their old policy of every man 358 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 8: woman in trout for themselves. 359 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 4: Airlines need to crack down on the bags, like just 360 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,239 Speaker 4: eyeballing it. It seems like practically everybody in line has 361 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 4: got a bigger bag or more bags then you're allowed, 362 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 4: and then it fills up really quickly, so they you know, 363 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 4: I followed the rules, so it doesn't bother me if 364 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 4: they crack down. So this is getting lost in the 365 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 4: blur of war. It would have been the biggest story 366 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 4: in America today if we weren't at war. They released 367 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 4: the videos of Bill and Hillary's interrogation over Epstein last week. 368 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 4: They released them today, but because we're at war, they're 369 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,719 Speaker 4: not getting much attention. It's Epstein and it probably shouldn't 370 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 4: get much attention. But we do have Hillary being asked 371 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 4: about Pizzagate by Nancy Mace, who's a bit of a kukola, 372 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 4: half a nut job for sure about the whole Pizzagate 373 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 4: QAnon thing. And I haven't heard it yet. I'm kind 374 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 4: of interested in hearing it. We'll get to that here soon. 375 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, just in a couple of minutes, but I wanted 376 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: to get to this really quickly. Big, big, big, great 377 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: news for fans of sanity. According to the Supreme Court 378 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: in a split decision, of course, California public schools cannot 379 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: keep parents in the dark if their child is trying 380 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: to bend their gender at school under the sway of 381 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: activists at the school. 382 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 2: Of course, court. 383 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: In a split decision concluding that parents likely have a 384 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: constitutional right to be informed if their children adopt new pronouns, 385 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: use a different or take other steps to socially transition 386 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: to a new gender identity while at school. 387 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 4: Well, I think it's abhorrent to the idea of the 388 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 4: school keeping it a secret, just like in just in 389 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 4: the world of common decency, your rumors, your kids really, 390 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 4: you know, struggling with something, So we just want to 391 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 4: let you know, whether it's they're getting bad grades or 392 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 4: wetting their parents, or want to change their gender whatever 393 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 4: it is, you ought to let the parents know. But 394 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 4: what's the constitutional right? What's that? 395 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 2: What friggin groomers? 396 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 5: Uh? 397 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 2: I will, I will read part of it. 398 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: When a child exhibits symptoms of gender dysphoria at school, 399 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: California's policies conceal that information from parents and facilitate a 400 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: degree of gender transitioning during school hours. These policies likely 401 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: violate parents' rights to direct the upbringing and education of 402 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: their children. In short, you can't cut off parents from 403 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: children barring a serious legal need to do so. The 404 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: counter courtse three Democrats appointed justices dissented from both rulings 405 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: for various reasons, partly that some of them are childless. 406 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: Oh, some or all of them are childless. 407 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 4: I think God, you people that want to have children 408 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 4: doing secret things against their parents at school with they 409 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 4: help with the teachers. 410 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: You are evil, you people. 411 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're absolute freakin groomers. Stop sexualizing children at school. 412 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 2: Sick. Atlanta Kagan had a bit. 413 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: Of a principle the argument she dissented the She criticized, 414 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: rather the majority for using quote shortcut procedures on the 415 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: emergency docket to essentially resolve a complex legal question without 416 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: full briefing or arguments. 417 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 2: Quote. 418 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: Today's decision shows not for the first time, how our 419 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: emergency docket can malfunction, she wrote, adding the court is impatient, 420 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: it already knows what it thinks and insists on getting 421 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: everything over quickly. There may be some truth to that, 422 00:21:55,520 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: because the idea of schools sexualizing and indoctrinating children into 423 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: a bizarre theory of sexuality and then keeping it secret 424 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: from the parents is abhorrent and sick. That's probably you 425 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 1: why the Supreme Court wanted to get to it. So 426 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: it's a victory. It's kind of temporary issue. I don't 427 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: want to explain the full details of it. What's a 428 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: stay on what and reverses the countermanding order? 429 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 2: No way. 430 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 4: At the end of the day, it stands well, even 431 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 4: if it goes back and forth a couple of times. 432 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: There's just no way it ensures us better. Not so crazy. 433 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 4: So is the whole Pizzagate theory, in my opinion, that 434 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 4: the Clintons were running a pedophile ring out of a 435 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 4: pizza place in the northeast somewhere. Remember some job believed 436 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 4: it and went there and shot some people. Remember that 437 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 4: a little he shot into the ceiling. I think it's 438 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 4: a QAnon thing. Is that where it originated? 439 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? Wow? 440 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 4: Is that where the whole pedophile thing originated from? Pizzagate 441 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 4: all spread from there. 442 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein really liked getting with underage girls, many of them. 443 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: So there's there's basis for you know, there is some 444 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: fire as well as the smoke there. 445 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 4: Right, But then when did it morph into the you know, 446 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 4: the bushes are raping babies and eating them. 447 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: When did that happen? You know? And that fits in 448 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 2: with the pizza gate thing? AnyWho? Right? 449 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 4: Hillary Clinton was asked about that by Representative Nancy Mace 450 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 4: last week when she's being grilled under oath. Here's how 451 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 4: it went. 452 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 9: You described pizza Gate as a baseless conspiracy theory, alleging 453 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 9: you and others ran a child sex trafficking ring from 454 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 9: a Washington pizzerie based pizzeri a basement. Have you reviewed 455 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 9: any twenty twenty five, twenty six Epstein files that were 456 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 9: released that you believe reference or relate to those specific 457 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 9: twenty sixteen claims regarding the Podesta email comet ping pong 458 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 9: pizza used as code possibly, I'm sorry her whether. 459 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 2: She's reviewed emails relate to the wacky pizza Gate. 460 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 9: Excuse me, characterize it however you want. I just would 461 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 9: like to know if she's familiar with any of them. 462 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 10: Pizzagate was totally made up. It was an outrageous allegation 463 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 10: that ended up hurting a number of people, that caused 464 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 10: a deranged young man to show up with his assault 465 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 10: rifle and shoot up a local pizzeria. I can't believe 466 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 10: you're even referencing it. 467 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 2: Is there more to that or is that more or 468 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 2: less word ends? That's that's that part of it. 469 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I Bill Clinton. I would never have left Bill 470 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 4: Clinton with my sister alone in a room if I 471 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 4: had a sister. I don't like Bill Clinton, and I 472 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 4: don't think he's a good guy when it comes to 473 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 4: how he treats women. But I don't think they were 474 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 4: running a child sex ring out of a pizza place 475 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 4: in the basement. 476 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 2: I think that's crazy. 477 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 4: And Nancy Mace, does it sound to you like she 478 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 4: was trying to take that seriously or believes it? 479 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 5: Yes? 480 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, she is half a whack job, definitely. 481 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 5: Yeah. 482 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 2: I know her act pretty well. And now, how are 483 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 2: you ever going to get past any of this? I 484 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 2: don't know that we can. 485 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: It's absolutely become the case that there are too many 486 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: whacky online conspiracy theories and subgroups and activists of yours. 487 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: You just you'd spend all your time running around trying 488 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 1: to refute their whack of doodal arguments. 489 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 4: I suppose we should hear from Bill Clinton ask a 490 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 4: specific question here there clipped thirty five, Michael, I. 491 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 2: Do think you should be talking to me. I think 492 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 2: you should have called me. 493 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 5: I did take those blind trips with them, and you 494 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 5: have a right to ask those questions. 495 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 2: Okay, that was thirty four. Do we have thirty five 496 00:25:54,480 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 2: or they misnumbered? Yeah, that's that's I've got the right numbers. Okay, 497 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 2: So what's the one about did you have sexual contact? 498 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 2: Because thirty six, did. 499 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 11: You ever have any sexual contact with young women or 500 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 11: girls in the presence of Epstcen or Maxwell? No, did 501 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 11: you ever have sexual contact with any young woman or 502 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 11: girl introduced to you by Epstein or Maxwell? 503 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 2: And then just roll that next one. 504 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 11: Mister President, with the benefit of hindsight, where there things 505 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 11: you witness that could have suggested that Epstein was trafficking 506 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 11: and sexually abusing young women and girls? 507 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 4: I did not believe, so HM put a little thought 508 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 4: into that one I just read. He was asked specifically 509 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 4: about Trump, and he said, I never saw anything that 510 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 4: would indicate to me that Donald Trump was doing anything 511 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 4: illegal or on tw with young girls. Although the crowd 512 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 4: I personally know that believes all this but Ophelia stuff. 513 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 4: They think the Trump and Clinton's and Bushes in Hollywood 514 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 4: are all working together on this. So of course he 515 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 4: would say that can we go back to Hillary briefly? 516 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 4: This was very jazzy, speaking of half a nut job. 517 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,959 Speaker 4: Lauren Bobert took a picture, evidently and sent it to 518 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 4: a right wing podcaster, dude right, who put it out immediately, 519 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 4: and Hillary got wind of it in the middle of 520 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 4: the hearing, even though that's strictly against the rules that 521 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 4: they had all agreed on. 522 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 2: And it went like this thirty one Michael. 523 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 12: Excuse me, Can I interrupt? I have another odos that 524 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 12: are being released of the secretary as she is testifying 525 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 12: from inside this room. Can you please advise me as 526 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 12: to whether or not that's promissible and consistent with the rules, 527 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 12: particularly given that we have asked for public hearing. Are 528 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 12: photos that are being released of the secretary, she is testifying. 529 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 12: Can you please explain how. 530 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,479 Speaker 2: I've done with this? If you guys are doing that, 531 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 2: I am done. 532 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 10: You can pull me a contempt from now till the 533 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 10: cows come home. 534 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 2: This is just typical behavior all for heaven. 535 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 12: I would like to understand how that's commissible for the 536 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 12: hearing was It doesn't matter. 537 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 2: We all are abiding by the same rules. 538 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 6: I will take that down. Yeah. 539 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 12: Well, I would like to take a break at this one. 540 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 2: I'd like to have gone for now. Wow. 541 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Hillary comes off as sharp and feisty through the 542 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: whole thing. 543 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 2: Bill is a very old fella who Scarborough alway should 544 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 2: play that just because it's kind of interesting. We have time. 545 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 4: Nobody'd ever let this cat out of the bag. Scarborough's 546 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 4: friends with all these people, Joe Scarborough and MSNBC. 547 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 13: And then and then there was this scene of an 548 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 13: aging Bill Clinton obviously suffering through Parkinson's being held there 549 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 13: for hour after hour after hour. You all are doing 550 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 13: something to an ex president that nobody's ever done. 551 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 4: Good for just the fact that he said Bill's suffering 552 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 4: with Parkinson's. No, that's never been released before. No, I 553 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 4: wonder if he accidentally let that slip I think he did. 554 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: If this is a grand standy crap, And look, I'm 555 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: a proud conservative or reluctant Republican more or less. 556 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 4: I can't stand the Clintons, but I think it was 557 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 4: grand standy crap. 558 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 2: Right. 559 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, If you were serious about this stuff, and anybody 560 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: who's done any serious reading of reasonable sources about the 561 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: whole Epstein case over the years, you would be subpoenaing 562 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: and questioning local authorities in the Palm Beach area in 563 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: Florida and state prosecutors in Florida. There are half a 564 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: dozen FBI agents who you ought to be subpoenaing. 565 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 2: You ought to be talking to. 566 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: Some of the prosecutors in New York who took a 567 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: look at these charges and passed over them, or thought 568 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: there wasn't enough evidence, or mysteriously just let it go. 569 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: You would be talking to cops, FBI agents, and victims. 570 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: You witnesses who filed, who called the FBI and said hey, 571 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: I just saw this and were ignored for a year. 572 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: That's who you would be talking to. 573 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 2: Not freaking Bill and Hillary. Oh for heaven. 574 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 4: Now, if you were grilling Bill and Hillary about the 575 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 4: Clinton Foundation and what they were giving people for the 576 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 4: tens of millions of dollars that people gave them. 577 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 2: Now that would be a hearing. I'd be all for 578 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 2: oh for heaven. Oh yeah, it's pretty easy to understand. 579 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: You get hundreds of millions of dollars and you spread 580 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: a fair amount of it around doing good, but then 581 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: you use the rest of it to live likely your 582 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: king creases of old you pay go anywhere and do 583 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: anything we want for the rest of our lives. 584 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 4: We travel around the world on a private plane, give 585 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 4: a speech that you pay us three hundred thousand dollars 586 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 4: for because you needed to hear this speech because it 587 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 4: was gonna help so much. 588 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 2: All for family and friends are on the payroll too. 589 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: It's great, and we actually do some good with the 590 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: money sometimes, but it's mostly for us. 591 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 2: Now, that would be a hearing. 592 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: Yes, grand standy crap, hey, hey, two hundred and fifty years, 593 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: it was a good run. 594 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 2: What Bye Sweet America? So you think it was the 595 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 2: last time I said that? It's been years. Goodbye Sweet America. 596 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 2: That's right, that used to be your slogan. 597 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you're thinking, you think this is a little grim, 598 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 4: but you think you're like sometimes people get really old. 599 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 4: They hang on long enough to turn ninety or one hundred, 600 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 4: or their daughter, granddaughter's wedding or whatever. We're as a 601 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 4: country hanging on for the two hundred and fiftieth birthday. 602 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 2: Then we will expire. Oh yeah, well kind of. 603 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: It's not going to be that quick, I'm reminded of. 604 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: You know, there comes a time in a war, for instance, 605 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: like World War Two, when was it absolutely clear the 606 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: Nazis could not win. Different people, different historians would pick 607 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: different dates, but my point is it was well before 608 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: the end. Then there was the hanging on even though 609 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: it was never going to be successful period, which is 610 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: unfortunately because many people died. There are days I feel 611 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: like our republic is about to clearly move into the 612 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: Then they hung on out of patriotism and pride because 613 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: the constitution was so amazing, but it clearly was no 614 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: longer a functioning democratic republic. 615 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 4: That part of World War Two is the part in 616 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 4: the movie Fury with Brad Pitt as. 617 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 2: A tank commander. WHOA is that rough? That's a good 618 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 2: war movie if you haven't seen it, and just keeps 619 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 2: recommending that I got to see it. It's pretty good. 620 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,239 Speaker 2: It's pretty good. We got more on the waist to hear. 621 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 2: Although how many's got to be on high alert. 622 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I doubt he's anywhere near a location that obvious, 623 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 3: giving the advanced surveillance he's been under from American and 624 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 3: Israeli intelligence. 625 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,239 Speaker 1: This is the moment that officials say the eighty six 626 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: year old Diatola was killed and he stayed. 627 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 6: In his house. 628 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 2: Old people are so frecking stubborn. It's like. 629 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 4: They really are, Like you cannot tell them anything, sir, please, 630 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 4: you are in danger here. 631 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 6: I'm not leaving. 632 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 2: This is my house. 633 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 6: I didn't ask you to day. 634 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 2: You could go on day. 635 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 5: What did I do? 636 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 4: It's now being reported that the Israelis struck the meeting 637 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 4: of the Iranian Supreme Council where officials were gathering to 638 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 4: choose a new Supreme leader. Israel struck while they're actually 639 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 4: counting the votes for the appointment of a new Supreme leader. 640 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 2: So they're counting votes to replace the dude. Pick you 641 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 2: got to replace a dude and killed everybody. 642 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: At the same time. So that's that's ironic. They could have, 643 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: you know, just saved themselves the pain of the meeting. 644 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: A couple of others, Yeah, a couple other news of 645 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: the day things. President Trump said it's too late for 646 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: talks with Iran and warned that the United States has 647 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: enough humnitions munitions to fight forever. I think that defies logic, 648 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: but it's a good thing to say to your enemy. 649 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: No point in saying to your enemy. And we got 650 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: about another week's forth of stuff. 651 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm a little concerned about all of that. 652 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 4: I think this one is interesting. So Ever since the 653 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 4: Iraq War, the whole boots on the ground thing has 654 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 4: been a real red line, and journalists love asking. 655 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 2: What about boots on the ground. 656 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 4: There's the possibility of boots on the ground, and every 657 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 4: president or senator whoever, says, I have no plans on 658 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 4: my desk for boots on the ground, because that's a 659 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 4: line did not cross. Trump was asked about that the 660 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 4: other day and he said maybe. Hexat said, you know, 661 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 4: we might. And Trump was asking about it again today 662 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 4: and he said, I don't have the yips with respect 663 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 4: to boots on the ground. Like every president says there 664 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 4: will be no boots on the ground, I don't say that. 665 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 4: Trump said, after launching strikes, I say, probably don't need them, 666 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 4: or if they are necessary, but I'm not worried about 667 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 4: saying it, which is just a more you know, it's 668 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 4: odd that that that sometimes Trump can be so childish, 669 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 4: but often is the adult in the room on questions 670 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 4: like this, Yeah we might, I don't mind saying that. 671 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 2: Big deal. 672 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: I choked down about ten minutes of the obnoxious. Margaret 673 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: Brennan on Meet the Press on Sunday, and her lead 674 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: question to Tom Cotton noted Republican Hawk senator as the 675 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,720 Speaker 1: president said, this campaign might last more than days, perhaps weeks? 676 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: Does that mean boots on the ground? And I'm like, 677 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: what is this a cliche? 678 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 2: Are you? Are you? This is a parody? Right? 679 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: She didn't even like justify therefore, because of the ongoing 680 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: might we have nos, just goes with that knee jerk idiotic. 681 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 2: Good thing or a bad thing question? And what did 682 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 2: he say? 683 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: He more or less said, it's it's irrelevant task that 684 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: at this point. 685 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 4: Which is true. It is a fact, though, so that 686 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 4: no regime has been changed without boots on the ground. 687 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 4: It's never been done by air strikes alone, even if 688 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 4: you kill the people in charge. 689 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: Right, I think we they are counting on the incredibly 690 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: low level of support for the regime among the Iranian people. 691 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: But who got the guns wins the fights. 692 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 4: That is the advantage of in a country like ours, 693 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 4: where we have no we're armed, we have a Second Amendment. 694 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 2: They don't have that in Iran. Armstrong and Getty