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Speaker 1: welcome to the announcement episode. Hi. It's Sam and George

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Speaker 1: and we're here before the episode that we've actually recorded

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Speaker 1: sounding what sounding? Oh my god, George, this would have

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Speaker 1: to go behind a paywall. This is not for children,

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Speaker 1: a podcast are doing our first ever live show. That's right, bitches,

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Speaker 1: the quarantine breakout hit known as Stradio lab Our Podcast

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Speaker 1: going into Brooklyn's the Bell House on I want to say, um, June.

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Speaker 1: which then makes me go, I want to go do things,

423
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I think that is

424
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 1: really assisted in my Also, I think I'm in a

425
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 1: bit of a manic phase now as we're all like

426
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 1: vaccinated in the weather's nice that I'm like joyfully overbooking

427
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: myself and and I've been works been pretty chill for

428
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 1: like two or three weeks. So those kind of weeks,

429
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, you make you make a social plan every day, doll.

430
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: You know, it really is impressive. And the bike has

431
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: helped too, because it means that, like when George's talking

432
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 1: about his neighborhood, I'm like, I can skip down there

433
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 1: in twenty minutes. There's like nothing stopping me. Okay, the bike.

434
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. The bike is uh a game change.

435
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: I don't have a bike. And the more I realize

436
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: that the common threat among people who much like Josh

437
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: are kind of these Zelig like figures that appear everyw

438
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: Forrest Gump figures that appear everyway when you play the

439
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 1: tapes back, I do sort of like to be a

440
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: social captain sometimes though, because one I think it's some

441
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: of it is like feeling like my brain is good

442
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 1: at that of just like organizing and reminding and stuff.

443
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,360
Speaker 1: And then also it is a thing I derive joy from,

444
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: so I'm like, why not expend the emotional labor to

445
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: remind everyone horse meat tickets are going on soon, do

446
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You also, you're doing good

447
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: at doing it in a low pressure way where it's

448
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 1: not like you know, there's not You're not gonna be

449
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: upset if someone can't come. You actually can. Now I'm

450
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: going to fully pull back the curtain. And luckily neither

451
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 1: of you do this. But one of my pet peeves

452
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 1: as a person who likes to get people together is

453
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: when you who have been invited give pushback or need

454
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 1: to be convinced. Where if I would rather tell you

455
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: a thing about come if you all good, if you

456
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 1: don't happy to help, happy to give all the info,

457
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: but if someone's like, I don't know, is it gonna

458
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: be bad, then I'm like, don't even come, Like I

459
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 1: don't need to get But you know what, though some

460
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: people get off on convincing, I totally, but I'm I

461
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: can't want to fill that kink. I ultimately go, listen,

462
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: it's all good, you don't have to come. And yes,

463
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: just Josh, I know that you're on our turff right

464
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: now and you're trying to be kind, but I do

465
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: feel I have to be completely honest with you and

466
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: say that I feel that sometimes I and that girl

467
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 1: I don't need convincing necessarily, but I will be like,

468
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: you know, I can see when I'm overbooking a little,

469
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: and I'll be like, hey, I'm gonna try to come,

470
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 1: but just definitely I feel like I'm overbooking, so expect

471
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: which that I'm comfortable with. And let's also reference a

472
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: recent moment where there are times where I'll still bully

473
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: the dolls when I'm like, this has to happen. Like

474
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: the first time we were going to that Tai Tea party,

475
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 1: I really was like, abscesses are unexcused, and and I

476
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 1: was absent and excused because the child was being born, right,

477
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: and Greek Easter or something. It was Greek Easter, That's

478
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: what it was. Okay, the child was Jesus Christ. Sam

479
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: was feeding me bullshit, and so I had to call

480
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: her on the bullshit. I used to be very anti covers.

481
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 1: I I I've never been comfortable paying a cover. He says,

482
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: and how much have you paid for Lady Gaga? Sorry?

483
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: Is Lady Gaga in a bit? You just roll up

484
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 1: and you walk in at the door, Hey, is there

485
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 1: any space I'll come in for free. Mr. This is

486
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 1: what I mean. But it's all no, no, no, no,

487
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: this is it was all I because Lady Ganga. I

488
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: bought those tickets and that was the first that was like,

489
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: because I'm trying to turn over a new leaf, because

490
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: I always let these things pass by. I've never seen

491
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 1: her before, and it was like, I've got to start

492
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: saying yes to the dress. It is time to go

493
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: for it. And so I feel you've got to be comfortable. Yeah,

494
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: you've got to be comfortable with a cover, especially after

495
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: a year of not playing covers. But I think covers

496
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: are only worth it when they're worth it. You know,

497
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 1: some of these dolls are going in these circuit parties

498
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: for a hundred and sixty dollars and I'm like, that's

499
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: not worth it. That's not worth it. That's simply not

500
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: worth it. Dollars to sip in twirl in a gorgeous

501
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: backyard with your favorite people. Come on, worth it, It's

502
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 1: worth it. Aaron and I are often saying and um,

503
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: We've said this every time we've gone out in the

504
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,959
Speaker 1: last month, and I think we'll continue saying it for

505
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: three years. We'll just like be buying a eighteen dollar

506
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: Gin and Tonic single and being like single handedly supporting nightlife,

507
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: single handedly keeping nightlife alive. It really is true that

508
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: we have to support nightlife because they have made no

509
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: money in a full year. Yeah, they're one of the

510
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: industries that was most you know, fully gutted and given

511
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 1: no assistance. So I really do feel like, honey, take

512
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,719
Speaker 1: my take my money. I would like, and I think

513
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 1: I'll think that for the rest of Joe Biden's term.

514
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: A lot of people got them loan, small business loans

515
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: from the government, and all nightlife people got was an

516
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: envelope and then they opened it and it said fag Yeah,

517
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: I win rough estimate of how much I spent at

518
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: that party to that, including the cover and the drinks,

519
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: I'd say fort of dollars. Yeah, dangerous amount. Dangerous amount

520
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: that was. That was so much money in a way

521
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: that I was like, hmm, interesting this. I could have

522
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: looked have any regrets, and I haven't actually zero regrets.

523
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 1: And I would have rather gone to that party than

524
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 1: own a home. And now you'll never be able to

525
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: own a home because you actually spent the down payment

526
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: on the party. Yeah. Yeah, Whereas I'm actually closing soon

527
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 1: on my home because I had to go to Greek

528
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: Eastern Greek. Jesus. Yeah, Jesus provides Jesus. Yes, nobody can say. Now, well,

529
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: we pretty much covered nightlife. We covered nightlife, which is

530
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: not a straight world. No, please support your local dolls.

531
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: Please put your local dolls, and by that I mean

532
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: just gay men who live in your neighborhood and want

533
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: to go to the Brooklyn Botanic Gardens. And before we

534
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: move on completely from social life and a social light, um,

535
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: I'm trying to brainstorm on whether or not there are

536
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: any hilarious anecdotes from the beach, and the answer could

537
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: be no. I'm trying that I did love the first

538
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: day that there were three massive cranes just moving rocks around.

539
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: You're at jacob Reese, and it's hard to imagine a

540
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: way to make jacob Riese more inhospitable when it's already

541
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: in front of an abandoned childhood tuberculosis sanatorium, just cranging

542
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: rocks together, and you're like, wow, it got spookier. I

543
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: love being gay. Yeah, you go ahead. All I was

544
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: gonna say this is I promise you. You're not gonna

545
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: believe me. I promise this is not about you, guys,

546
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: and this is not about anyone we know. This is

547
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: about the general photographs from people's first beach trip of

548
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: the season. George, it must be about someone we know.

549
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: I promise you it's not, and I couldn't. Here's the thing.

550
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: People who are Caucasian, they look so white, like these

551
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: are people that have not been in the sun for

552
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: a year and a half and it's and the first

553
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: picks of the season are just everyone looking fully translucent.

554
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: And then these same girls I'm here putting on suntan

555
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: lotion every fucking thirty five minutes, and they're like, why

556
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: are you been on some so much suntan lotion? I'm like,

557
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: look at your glowing ass, Like you shouldn't be wearing

558
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: clothes right now? What are you doing put on lotion

559
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: over lotion at the start of the summer. Again, it's

560
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: literally spring even here. Why are you trying to start

561
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: off with a burn? Porcelain white faggot, you who have

562
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:36,479
Speaker 1: known no labor right, Yeah, it's like, um, you know,

563
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: some of these queens will will actually get a sunburned

564
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: just by being inside open a window, looking at your

565
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: damn laptop screen. Yeah, the UV rays are too intense.

566
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: They have to actually download an app to bring the

567
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: blue light out. Now, George, clearly you were at someone

568
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: with that statement. No, I think it's like a universal thing.

569
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: I think it's like Caca with rather all of complexion.

570
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's like everyone. I think it was about me.

571
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: I think it was wearing a little red speedo and

572
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: I think my skin looked really pale. It's like going

573
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: through Instagram stories and being like, oh my god, these

574
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: people need to put on sunscreen. George, just say my

575
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: fucking name next time. I would never say that about

576
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: put his name in your mouth for fucking one time.

577
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: The white people are very white. White people are white.

578
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: Give him a mic. Let him. I'm not afraid to

579
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: talk about race. White people burn, white people burn. There

580
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: we go, and now we said that our first segment. Okay,

581
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: hear the way I know my chicken is coming soon

582
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,239
Speaker 1: and my heart is pounding more than it ever has

583
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: in the past. I love that as a general statement,

584
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: The way I know my chicken Like that feels really

585
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: like I'm hesitant about what's about to happen. Yeah, well

586
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,479
Speaker 1: it is the Checkov's gun of this episode. Is there

587
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: a chicken will come and Stradio labs chicken. Yeah, chicken. Um.

588
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: My biggest fear is that it will be is that

589
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:05,959
Speaker 1: it will be too big and then it'll be hard

590
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: to cook. Well it's running around. Yeah, you have to

591
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: pick the damn feathers off it. Oh my god, can

592
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: you imagine? I mean, this chicken is coming from a

593
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: family farm that maybe is you know, it's beautiful. It's

594
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: like it's like maybe one family, yes, yeah, anything farm. Yeah,

595
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: it's a polyamorous chicken. It's actually a polyquele of chickens.

596
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: So they self kill each other and they self so

597
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: that's the thing. There are no humans involved. It's so

598
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: they self kill and then they the agency and you, Venmo,

599
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: there's no kind of story, you Venmo than chickens and

600
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: you can tip and um. And they have a little

601
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: tip jar and they're all named gender neutral names like hey, veno,

602
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: but they have a tip jar. They were like one

603
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: of them is named Onyx, one of them is named

604
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: all of them end with the next. You know. I

605
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: think it's amazing that they're sort of polycuele chicken society

606
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: and yet they still take us American dollars. Well just

607
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: because they're a polycule, doesn't mean they aren't, you know,

608
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: American exceptional, like the under capitalism doesn't come for these girls.

609
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: That's very new liberals to try to attack the individuals

610
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: chicken and not think about the systemic issues exactly. I

611
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: mean it's like, yes, Sam, I don't know. Bill Gates

612
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: is out here literally like killing people. And now you're

613
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: and now you're actually starting a move on dot org

614
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: petition to to to shut down the chickenickens take crypto,

615
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: the chicken polycule business, just because they're not what like

616
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: giving away there freely because you have some doja coin

617
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: you're trying to offload. Oh my god. At least Bill

618
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: Gates is honest about what he is. He is a capitalist.

619
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: The chickens. The chickens pretend like they're it's so pure

620
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: and so above it all, and yet here they are,

621
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: you know, charging damn rent for the other. Is Bill

622
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: Gates on or does he have an entire foundation that

623
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: is a tax of Asian scheme? Honestly, Sam and I

624
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: must again call out your hypocrisy. You have bought Lady

625
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: Gaga tickets, You have bay Lady Gagat, You have bought

626
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: Lady Gagat tickets. You cannot critique capitalism. That is not

627
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 1: that is not valid, That is not valid. Yes, this

628
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: is not about me right now, I never said I

629
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: was not day. I'm shut up and dropped up and

630
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: draw nerve to have bought Lady Gaga tickets and to

631
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: be calling out a chicken polycule that sells organic chickens

632
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: for gay men in relationships to make for one another.

633
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you know what. I'll see you both

634
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: at the chromatica ball. Damn fuck you, fuck, damn fuck.

635
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: Okay George described on first sign do our first segment,

636
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: Sam wants to rewrite the narrative of him being pro

637
00:34:55,640 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: capitalism by buying Lady Gagat tickets. Okay, Josh. First segment

638
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: is called straight Shooters, And in this segment we gauge

639
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: your familiarity with and complicity and straight culture by asking

640
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: you this series of nonsensical questions where you have to

641
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: choose an answer without asking any follow up questions, and

642
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,919
Speaker 1: if you do ask a follow up question, we will

643
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:18,439
Speaker 1: literally cut off your mic, leave this zoom, and never

644
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: invite you to the beach or the Brooklyn Botanic Gardens

645
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: ever again. Do you copy copy alright towards. That was

646
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: a beautiful description, Thank you, Josh Sharp toxic beauty standards

647
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: or systemic bias and standardized testing, systemic bias and standardized testing.

648
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: Josh ordering jalapeno poppers for the table or being mentally

649
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: stable poppers for the table. Oh my god, I would

650
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: love it. Sounds so good right now. Completing a half

651
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: marathon or eating half a doughnut half marathon, being a

652
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: go getter, or being a bedwetter bedwetter mayor of East

653
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: Town or the Blair which project? The Blair which Project?

654
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 1: I love that little spacing man. That was really clutch.

655
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: Um kink at Pride or pink on the silks. Pink

656
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: on the silks. Oh, that's a great one. We actually

657
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: actually pink. We should do pink as a topic. Oh

658
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: I would love to fully unpacked pink. But that's for

659
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: a later episode. And finally, Josh, watering your plants or

660
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: shifting your pants? Shoot your pants? Wait? I have one more?

661
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, yes, of course, okay, Josh, the Beach Boys

662
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: or the Landlocked Ladies Locked Ladies, the Landlocked Ladies is

663
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: such a good name for a band. Somebody can have it.

664
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: Just just put me in the credits. I don't even

665
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: need the money. You know. What's funny to be is

666
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 1: like the culture of always having the tag everyone Like,

667
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: let's say you post you know, you know, I'm literally

668
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: just looking around my room eating nicoret gum, and then

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00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: you have to tag nacret. You don't have to tag

670
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: nacret when people tag stuff. I mean I even find

671
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: like when someone tags like the photographer, when it's just

672
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: like a picture of you out for brunch, Like it's like,

673
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: that's just your friend. You don't need to tag them

674
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: as a photographer. Correct, they're not trying to work, right,

675
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 1: And the pictures of you at brunch or when people

676
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: or when people call you out for not there's nothing

677
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: more humiliating than posting a photo and then the person

678
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: who took it commenting like where's my photo credit? Anything

679
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: that gives Instagram currency is ultimately bad. You have to

680
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: be like where we should all be here, but grudgingly, right,

681
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: don't come for me. What's your point you want me?

682
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: You want more people to go put a little heart

683
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: on the picture of your asshole, Like what are you

684
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: talking about? Okay, wait, thank you for bringing this up.

685
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: Because one of the darkest parts of our culture. Is

686
00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: is the following and I'm going to try to describe

687
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: the well is is Instagram comments that are just three

688
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: of the same emoji. Yeah, okay, it is like do

689
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I had this realization a

690
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: few months ago where I was like, oh, one of

691
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: the reasons I was alienated by Instagram is because I

692
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: didn't understand how it worked. And how it works is

693
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: you scroll and just common three of the same emoji

694
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: under every photo. Sometimes it's a clap emoji, sometimes it's

695
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: a heart emoji, sometimes it's a one D emoji. And

696
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what it is. It can be someone

697
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: coming out with really really intense trauma, or it can

698
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: be someone announcing that they got a digital series on

699
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: lays Chips dot com and you're like, I don't want

700
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 1: to click the heart to add another heart to this.

701
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: I want to actually have them see three individual hearts

702
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: that are that are sent personally from me. Yes, well,

703
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: we It's tough. I'm not here to defend the culture,

704
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: but it is the culture. You have to because you

705
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 1: want to show more support than than just like like

706
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: you to be like, no, I really support this, and

707
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: so you want to be like a good job, because

708
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: you also know that person, if they're presenting it as celebratory,

709
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: is gonna need that or else they're gonna feel like

710
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: a fucking flop. But with all this ship, you have

711
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: to think about the present as if it were the

712
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: future that, like Spike Jones was selling you, like if

713
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: the premise was her was like everybody posts pictures and

714
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: then you either click to give it hearts or you

715
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: send a message to send more hearts. You'd be like,

716
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Yes, well

717
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: every single part of I mean, let's let let me

718
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: Spike Jones would have a field day with this current world. Honey,

719
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: say that, Say that again? Say that actually, and I

720
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: think I'll say it caught this. This three emoji culture

721
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: is anti intellectual. Oh my god, it's anti words. It's

722
00:39:55,320 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: literally everyone's it's all Instagram is people grunting. No, no, no, okay.

723
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: But so is a lot of communication. It's like a

724
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: different form of communication, like email being like sounds good,

725
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: like if sometimes I'm like I wish there was just

726
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: like a like button non email, because it's like sounds

727
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: good means nothing. I'm just I need to say, like

728
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: I read this and like, so sometimes I crave just

729
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: like a general support like and without being like specific

730
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: because it's like, well, it doesn't matter. I just want

731
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: to say like correct. But to me, sounds good is

732
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: correct because it's like, it's not pretending that you are.

733
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: It's not using something as loaded as a heart, a

734
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: symbol of love. It's not using something as loaded as

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00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: you know, a prayer hands, a symbol of worshiping Our

736
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: Lord and s Jesus Christ of prayer, actually using your

737
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: hands to pray. Use it. It's actually a lot of people.

738
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: The prayer hands emoji is based on praying and with

739
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: your hands, so you you put your hands that way

740
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: in order to pray. And um, so sounds good is

741
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: the correct phrase for what it wants to signify, which

742
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: is that something sounds fine. I mean, imagine how insane

743
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: it would be if Josh posted I'm excited to announce

744
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: my new series, Prayer Hand Emoji is coming out on Hulu,

745
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: and then I commented, sounds gack. Can we cut that

746
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: from the pod because we haven't finished the I'm sorry.

747
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: So it's like I would rather like sort of be

748
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: on deadline before we just like no offense to your

749
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: pod platform. For me, I kind of thought it would

750
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: be a you know, we could make the announcement on

751
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: the pod and kind of get the scoun Yeah, I know, sorry,

752
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: and I know it's been a nightmare. When you pitched

753
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: this show, it was actually about, um, the civil war,

754
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: and it has now become not the one you're thinking of,

755
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 1: but not the one. Yeah, not the American one. The

756
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: American I mean here civil war and assume American is like, no,

757
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: that's problematic, and actually that's the opposite of Prayer Hands emoji.

758
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: It's interesting that you pitched it as a as a

759
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: gritty drama about a completely separate civil war and it

760
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: ended up being, um, actually a series about a quirky

761
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: girl living in Brooklyn called Prayer. I mean, that's just development.

762
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: That's the development process. You know, it's finding the truth

763
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,959
Speaker 1: of the piece ultimately and bringing it out more so. Well,

764
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: the exacts over there are so good, so I trust

765
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: the exacts are so good. They're so good. All exacts

766
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: are good. All exacts ultimately are good. Yeah, all exacts

767
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: like they should write the shows, except they're too selfless. Yeah,

768
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,919
Speaker 1: on the grid of like hey, like neutral, you know, bad,

769
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: good lawful. They're just good, good, good, just good and

770
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: also good. Yeah, that's ex good and in addition to

771
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: that really good. So you you had a good experience

772
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: with with Prayer Hands emoji. Yeah, incredible experience. And we're

773
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: cutting all this. Who who did you guys end up

774
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: casting as the emoji as the hands of the emoji

775
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: as the hands. Yeah, Javier bard m that's huge, that's amazing,

776
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 1: great hands. Wait, you know I've been saying Javier bardem

777
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: Is is kind of one of the last remaining prestige

778
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: actors that has not been in a television series. He's

779
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: kind of remained a movie a movie actor exactly until now,

780
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: until now he's playing the Prayer Hands. He has he

781
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 1: been in a marvel. I don't seems like he should be.

782
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: It does seem like he should be if to me,

783
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: it seems like maybe he should play a villain. Yeah,

784
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: maybe it googling or is he just checking his email? No,

785
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I had to work thing that I had

786
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: to just make sure I wasn't I have to go.

787
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: Can we stop so I can deal with us? But

788
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: we don't. It was it was it the execs for

789
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: Prayer Hands, a movie out. Yeah, he's out and it's

790
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: really fucking it's fucking everything up. Wait, that's so annoying.

791
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: Who do you think, like, who could replace Javier Bardem's hands. Well, ultimately,

792
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: there were con there were dates that are like we

793
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: thought would make the dates work. But he's doing you know,

794
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: John and Kate just sold hard emoji heart emoji heart emoji, okay,

795
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: and it's his human heart is it's his human heart

796
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: cutting wide open. Damn. I mean that's you know, have

797
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: to suffer for the art. And actually how you embard

798
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: m is volunteering to go into invasive surgery so that

799
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: his human heart complete the heart emoji. That's amazing, but

800
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it's Hula even gonna go through

801
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: with prayer hands emoji. I mean it's so similar. And

802
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: you you've already been accused about me, And like I

803
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: was saying earlier, the contracts aren't signed and now I'm

804
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: kicking myself. I was supposed to do it this weekend,

805
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: but I just got so busy. Yeah. Yeah, God, that's

806
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: so times. I hate when I'm so busy and I

807
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: can't sign the contracts. Yeah, it's so difficult, so difficult people,

808
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: so difficult people, so difficult people. So difficult people, so

809
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 1: difficult people every time being bitchy and gay. I say,

810
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: this is so difficult people. Every time I'm in New

811
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 1: York talking about comedy, I'm like, this is so difficult.

812
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: Actually hanging out with coal, Yeah, that's right, every time

813
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: hang out with I'm actually like, it's just so difficult.

814
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: People give me coffee. I always had a call go

815
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: get me coffee. So difficult people, Yeah, sometimes cold. We'll

816
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: talk and I'm like, why aren't you being your character

817
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 1: from the people? Aren't you working right now? Why are

818
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: you not working? Um? So, John, should we get into

819
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: our topic? Is that insane? Honestly what I was going

820
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: to say, It felt like the right time to Yeah, yeah,

821
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: we're I mean, we are forty five full minutes in

822
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: perfect so we have what thirty or forty seconds left? Josh?

823
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: This is how our podcast works. Okay, until the chicken arrives. Josh,

824
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: that's true. The second that chicken walks in the door,

825
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: we are ending this zoom. Yeah, and it will be

826
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,720
Speaker 1: walking or the create a cold brew, whichever comes first.

827
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: That's the way. Now I have a question for you,

828
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: and I'm sorry to delay the topic further to have

829
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: a crate of keep saying great, it's just boxed. It's

830
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: boxed cold brew. But you're getting it looks like a

831
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: boxed wine. Oh and where are you getting delivered from

832
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: Gratis and can I I'm like, how much is that?

833
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: It's actually not that expensive. It's a big thing of

834
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: gradies and it's like thirty bucks. Oh, but it's really

835
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 1: they do like a subscribe and safe thing where it's

836
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: cheaper if you like do that. Wait, I'm going to

837
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: do that. And I love Gradies New Orleans style with

838
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: the chickory. You know what I mean. This is a

839
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: sponsored second. Sorry, I know we have to legally say that, yes,

840
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: we all love gradies, gradies in my cup, and I've

841
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: never been happier that they told us to say that. Yeah,

842
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: it's actually not one of the best really singing it,

843
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: you were half singing it. It's like a sorry, I'll

844
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: do that. I've never been happier, thank you, thank you, Josh. Sorry. Yeah,

845
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: that's really tast I mean, I I kind of I

846
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: like having a tone of resignation to show that I'm

847
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: anti capitalist while doing my ad for Gradies cold Brew.

848
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: But ultimately they do pay us based on our tone right, Yeah, okay,

849
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: the topic, Yes, thank you for hosting the podcast. Now

850
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: you're welcome. Um, we're tired. Um, yes, because we haven't

851
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: had our gradies. Am I right? Seriously, don't podcast so

852
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: you've had your gradis? Um, Josh, I almost called you, George.

853
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: How embarrassing. And go ahead and get into whatever this

854
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: topic is that you've decided to bring to around and

855
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: we ultimately the day has decided on math, math, math, math, math, math, math,

856
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: And I was thinking about it. I don't know how

857
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: much I feel that math is straight, but I think

858
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 1: that's true. But I just find I think people are

859
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: really afraid of math, that it straight. I think the

860
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: mythology is that it's straight, and I think there's a

861
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: lot of fear in our community about math. But I

862
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: actually have sort of a proclivity and a passion for math.

863
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: And why we said on this topic is in a

864
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: text thread. Um, it was revealed that sort of all

865
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 1: three of us have deep personal connections to math. Josh,

866
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: share your connection first, please open so many. I generally

867
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: just like math. I honestly sometimes read math books for fun. Also,

868
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: I was historically UH an essay t tutor and specifically

869
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: liked the math part of it, you know, like I

870
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 1: like doing mental math, do you know what I mean?

871
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,720
Speaker 1: Like like I have that sort of sickness of enjoying

872
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: doing math in my head. But I find math to

873
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: be interesting and not just at the granular level, which

874
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: is the part where I think gays are already afraid.

875
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: But I'm like pushed past that, Gays. Let's talk about

876
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: string theory. I think theoretical math is actually really it's

877
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: basically it's abstract. It's so fun. I think like general

878
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: relativity and quantum theory are legitimately fascinating. So here's what

879
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: I have to say to that, because that is a

880
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: great point. Unfortunately, well, here's what I have to say

881
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: of that. I also was a huge theoretical math queen.

882
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: And in fact, I'm looking literally right now at my bookshelf.

883
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: One of the books I have kept from college that

884
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: I have moved to three different cities is called Introduction

885
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: to the Theory of Computation. Now this throws a wrench

886
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 1: slightly in the premise of this topic, because I actually

887
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: it's almost like theoretical math is gay. That's like one

888
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: plus one is straight. But I think I think arithmetic

889
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: is the straight barrier to entry and so no one

890
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: queers for afraid to push past that can realize, like,

891
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: it's actually fucking camp theoretical math, theoretical idea that it's

892
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: like big sht X one way, small ship acts another.

893
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: We don't know how to reconcile it. The best guess

894
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: we have everything is a little string exactly, and that's

895
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: literally what theoretical math is. And it's that is camp.

896
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: It's it's like people think math has no nuance, so

897
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: they're like, oh God, like straight people love adding and

898
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: subtracting because it's like puts the world into little boxes. Right. No,

899
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: it's like when you actually zoom out, you realize we

900
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: don't know what the funk is going on. Like relativity

901
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: is based on the relativity which is relative, which is

902
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: actually relatively relatively elegant and a beautiful theory that really

903
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: like works cohesively, but it does justify the idea that

904
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: time moves at different spaces, you know what I mean,

905
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: where it's like it justifies some psycho shit, whereas quantum

906
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: theory ultimately knows, hey, all those rules, those beautiful rules,

907
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: they don't apply when you get really small. The best

908
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: we can tell particles are literally appearing and disappearing at random.

909
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: We can only understand them probabilistically. Both are psychotic ideas,

910
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 1: and then and we cannot and they're both proven to

911
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: be correct, but we cannot reconcile the two. If you

912
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: make the small rules big, they fall apart. If you

913
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: make the big rules small, they fall apart. We have

914
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: no clue how the universe works. So the idea that

915
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, but you've got it, rules, rules, rules,

916
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: it's like, actually the rules are the foundation for a

917
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: broader idea that's like, I have no fucking clue what's

918
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: going on. It's I mean, theoretical math is astrology. It's astrology.

919
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: It's fully astrology. Yes, And so if you think if

920
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, math is for you know, finance bros.

921
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 1: And I'm into astrology because I am queer and you know,

922
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 1: have blue hair, well let me tell you something, sweetie. Literally,

923
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: math is astrology. Literally, it's astrology. When you think about

924
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: like like a field like fashion, or maybe you're like

925
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 1: what do they do? Like you're just like you're putting

926
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: a fucking you've decided bucket hats are cool? Like what

927
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: is this? Even it's like string theory is the best

928
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: idea for how these two systems work. And admittedly string theorists,

929
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 1: you're like, it's the best guess we got now, but

930
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: it doesn't really work. Actually, there's a bunch of problems

931
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: with it. Anyway, I make six figures saying that, like,

932
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 1: it's like it's a full field that cops to like

933
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: we actually know that this theory doesn't work, but we

934
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 1: don't have another one yet, so we're just trying to

935
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: figure this one out. Basically, it's like fashion, astrology, fine

936
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 1: art um, you know, postmodern theater, all these things. It's like,

937
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: if all those people just committed to learning string theory,

938
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: we could solve that. We could solve it. Okay, it's artists,

939
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: it's a lot of artifice. It's it's it's it is camp,

940
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: it's holding, it's putting structures onto place where you have

941
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: no structure. So you're just like, well, what if it

942
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: was this, you know, it's like but it's like it

943
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: actually isn't that. It's just like a fun way to

944
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: think about it. I have to put a stop into this.

945
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: I have to put a stop to all of those

946
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: because what you are saying, yes is a part of math.

947
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: It is math, but it is only a section of math,

948
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 1: and the most math that people interact with on a

949
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: daily basis and deal with is not beautiful. And I'm

950
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: sure affirming our point though, which is that's the barrier

951
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 1: to intrigue. But even inside saying math is straight, look,

952
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: you gotta make change, you gotta book. It's like, no,

953
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,479
Speaker 1: you don't. You gotta figure out how the universe works,

954
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: bitch exactly, but you have to do both well. Great,

955
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: I actually think I think mental math is super fun though,

956
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 1: But I think I think a fundamental understanding of relying

957
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 1: on based ten always to do math in your head

958
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: is an incredibly fun game to play. That is full celebrity,

959
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 1: you know. And I do think I do think fetishizing

960
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: based ten is straight. Definitely straight. It's definitely straight. So

961
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: but it is it's like a game. You have to

962
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: turn it into a game. I mean, so many things

963
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: have a straight barrier so that you can get to

964
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: the queer nucleus and take nude beaches for example. I

965
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: was literally about to say all the all the things

966
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 1: that Sam you love as a as a kind of

967
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: culturally gay individual who is a straight fetishist frankly, you

968
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: have a straight barrier, you love a straight barrier to

969
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 1: entry and then make it queer. This is I mean,

970
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: there is nothing, in fact more Sam than a straight

971
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: barrier that he crosses to get to the queer. I

972
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: mean that is straight gay. It is like your identity

973
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: in a moth in a lot of ways, Sam. And

974
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: we're literally explaining how math is that, and you're coming

975
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: for us. I don't even say your look like the

976
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: kind of you know, the hair and the and your

977
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: and your sense of silent stuff is intentionally straight barrier

978
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: queer nucleus. Yeah, I mean, look, I look, I agree

979
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: with you. I'm just I'm I'm just saying that while

980
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: we while we can talk about this one department of math,

981
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: I think still it's the tip of the iceberg. And

982
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: to say that's all it is, it's the bottom of

983
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: the ice iceberg. It's the bottom of the bottom of

984
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: the iceberg. That's the whole saying how do we figure

985
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: out how both the universe and every particle in your

986
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: body works? That is so much bigger than how do

987
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: you do to digit addition, you can carry the tin

988
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: like nothing you say to a young queer kid, would

989
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,280
Speaker 1: you like to learn all the secrets of the universe

990
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 1: and imagine them replying no, because two plus two equals

991
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: four and I find that boring. Yeah, but but okay,

992
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: but the series of the universe. Isn't that like, it's

993
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 1: not just like that? Is that is math? And science?

994
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 1: Can we agree, Like, it's not just math, it's math?

995
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: Physics is math? Is that it all? It all boils

996
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: down to math. You can call it science, but it's

997
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: science rooted in math. Case in point. If you're like

998
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: I only get the science of it, I don't get

999
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: the math. You don't understand a word of it. It's

1000
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: all rooted in math. It's not like biology, which is

1001
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: not rooted in math. You know, here's what I will say.

1002
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 1: In our previous episode, And George, uh, Josh, you said

1003
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: to go on the third If you're getting close to

1004
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: the third rail, then we should say something. And I

1005
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: because the study episode was about information, And here's what

1006
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: I will say. The study episode we talked about informational damming.

1007
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: And you two are both absolutely tied me to the

1008
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: fucking bed with information. You're you're shoving it in my face.

1009
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,479
Speaker 1: You're saying, shut up, your little info pig. I'm gonna

1010
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: feed you in here. Let me bring this back to

1011
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 1: the topic and talk about relativity right now, because to you,

1012
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: we're hitting the third rail because you talked to Sutogreen

1013
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: not ninety minutes ago. So the listener, they're going, what

1014
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: Sudi said that last week, time is relative, and you

1015
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: are making it about your own experience of time. The

1016
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: listener doesn't give a ship. Oh my god, I was like,

1017
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: this episode came out a week ago. What what do

1018
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: you even reminding me of. I've lived a whole life.

1019
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: I've been to the beach two times in four days.

1020
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: That is genius. I mean, that is genius. The fact

1021
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 1: that Sam and I are processing time in our way

1022
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 1: because we just had study on and the listeners literally

1023
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: processing it in a different way because they're listening to this,

1024
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: and that is Camp. You're literally affirming my point against

1025
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: Sam Camp. In sam defense, I want to say one thing,

1026
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: but then wait, I would say, and then I'm gonna

1027
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: also further refute Sam, like I'm just trying to I

1028
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: see what you're saying, Sam, which is that like? Which

1029
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: is almost that The point of math as a topic

1030
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: is to talk about how that tip of the iceberg

1031
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: is straight, and there is a world in which we

1032
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,439
Speaker 1: spend the whole episode being like, basically, the thesis would

1033
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 1: be something like, straight people love organizing things into boxes.

1034
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 1: That's why they love math. Like straight people love adding

1035
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 1: and subtracting. That's why they love math. And we are

1036
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: rather than even like addressing that upfront, Josh went immediately

1037
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: for the bottom of the iceberg. Is that kind of yes,

1038
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: But what I also says, I think you're wrong that

1039
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: it's information job. It's actually information sub because the majority

1040
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: of math that we're talking about is like I don't

1041
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: know what's going on, like honey, ride me, fill me,

1042
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 1: I don't know anything. You're right based ten maybe information Tom,

1043
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: but that is like if you surveyed every person paid

1044
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,919
Speaker 1: to be a mathematician and you're like, is your job

1045
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: figuring out quantum theory or adding, they'd be like, well,

1046
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: it's quantum theory, nobody. No mathematicians are focused on arithmetic.

1047
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: That is the smallest part of math. Yeah, well there

1048
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: between mathematicians and everyday math. Again, it's astrology. It's embracing

1049
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: the unknown. It's just like, what can we make out

1050
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: of all of this ship that makes no sense? And

1051
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: that is very like um information sub because it's like,

1052
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: I don't have to know fucking ride me universe, use

1053
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: me universe. But I guess the amount of people who

1054
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: are mathematicians is way less than the amount of people

1055
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: that use math day to day to balance the check book,

1056
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: to balance their checkbooks totally. Well, Also, no one balances

1057
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: a check book anymore. Oh damn. The other thing is

1058
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: we've offloaded a lot of math onto our phone, so

1059
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: no one has to do it, even the the annoying

1060
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: straight math anymore, Like that doesn't exist in your brain anymore,

1061
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: which is why I also now think mental math is

1062
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: sort of camp again, because it's like, you don't have

1063
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: to do this. You have a calculator in your pocket

1064
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: all the time in a fun little game to be

1065
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: able to like multiply two digit numbers in your head. Okay,

1066
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: you're going a step further and saying that not only

1067
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: is the bottom of the iceberg camped and queer, but

1068
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: even the top of ice in the modern in the

1069
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: modern dystopian context, maybe it's maybe it's basically to do

1070
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: any kind of manual math. You know what it is?

1071
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: Manual math is cruising in the park to do it.

1072
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: It's vintage. It's but it's a kink. It's a kinking

1073
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: is a kink. There's no need to do it, but

1074
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: you're doing. It's a kink. Okay, So mental math is kink.

1075
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: Theoretical math is camp. Any questions, Yes, that's it, George.

1076
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: Mental math is kink. Theoretical math is camp. And I

1077
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: just want to say yes to doing mental math at Pride.

1078
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: Yes to doing meal at Pride. Yes to doing string

1079
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: theory at Pride. Yes, string theory. Okay, Wow, I feel

1080
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: like I feel exhausted, I feel screamed at. I feel

1081
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: like my throat is sore from screaming. I feel this

1082
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 1: has been high energy. Can we take it to one

1083
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: other aspect, which is what do we think of Einstein?

1084
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: So much of this is born out of Einstein, the

1085
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: idea that Einstein gave us relativity and quantum, but I

1086
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: also said they don't make sense together the block figuring

1087
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: it out, and we're spending a hunter like he's a genius.

1088
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 1: But I'm wondering how how gay Einstein feels, or if

1089
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: you feel straight? Well, and I have another just while

1090
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: we're on this subject, Alan Turing, Oh, honey, Well, and

1091
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: the thing is once you, once you look under the hood.

1092
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: It's a bunch of gays writing these theories. I don't

1093
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: know why, but Einstein Einstein does feel a little gay

1094
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, I mean he had he's a look

1095
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 1: queen for I mean, when you have an iconic hair,

1096
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 1: do what the fun It's like, yeah, that's that's like

1097
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: Nol's clone. You know, he's like, look queen. He's a

1098
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: full club kid. Basically, he's a full club kid, I

1099
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: mean to have he has all the hallmarks, iconic hair, catchphrases,

1100
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: great photos. I mean, he's essentially Marilyn Monroe, Andy Warhol

1101
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: doing Marilyn Monroe. He's fully a scuzzy socialist freelancer. He's bushwick.

1102
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? He's fully a socialist

1103
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: with bad hair, who's like who doesn't who is self employed? Yeah, yeah,

1104
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 1: he's bushwick. He's bushwick Albert Einstein is. It's weird when

1105
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 1: like science and math creates like a star because it's

1106
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: very like, I feel like half of it is like

1107
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 1: trying to get normal people to be interested. And so

1108
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: it's like look Einstein, like you like now you like

1109
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: it because you can be a celebrity with total well

1110
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 1: The other thing with Einstein is like to think of

1111
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 1: something like equals mc squared that is iconic, and yet

1112
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: the average person could not tell you what it means.

1113
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: So that is the I mean, that's like that is

1114
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: when you reach legend status. Also a little shady too,

1115
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: because it was been on the idea that like people

1116
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: were like Newton's it Newton's the ship news gives math,

1117
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: And Einstein came in and said, I don't know about

1118
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: that one. Actually, maybe maybe not, honey, maybe maybe maybe

1119
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: gravity ain't so set as that doll thinks. Now let

1120
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 1: me tell you something else. Let me ask you something

1121
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: else rather, how about Newton. Newton feels straight to me, yeah,

1122
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 1: because but he was in a different time. I mean

1123
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: he was just saying gravity, I'm the one who measured gravity, yes,

1124
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: And then Einstein had to come and be like, girl,

1125
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: it's not always that. Yeah, I like the little mythology

1126
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: of Newton Like that feels very apples I accidentally, like

1127
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: I got bonked on the head. That's very like dumb

1128
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: bit sort of like, oh, it's stupid whore like me.

1129
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: I couldn't think of anything until an apple fell in

1130
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:10,919
Speaker 1: my head. How k at the beach? Still be hot

1131
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: to people. Having a realization because you've got a concussion

1132
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 1: is kind of queer. I would say, like, it's that's true,

1133
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: you know, being bonked on the head and then being

1134
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: like Eureka, yeah, you're right, that act is very queer.

1135
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: I just think maybe his legacy, Newtonian physics is pretty

1136
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 1: straight because it is very rule based and not malleable.

1137
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 1: And Einstein was the one to be like, actually, what

1138
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: if the rules weren't the rules yet, and yet these

1139
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: new rules that aren't rules are the only ones that

1140
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 1: demonstrably work all the time. Yeah, No, Newtonian physics is

1141
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: Newtonian physics is the platonic ideal of I mean not

1142
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: to bring Plato into it, but is the platonic ideal

1143
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 1: of like the tip of the iceberg. It's like, yes,

1144
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: Newtonian physics is how everyone thinks everything works right, like

1145
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 1: that is the straight element, and then Einstein is the

1146
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: queer element. And what also squeer boy Einstein is that

1147
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: he did it just by thinking. He just did it

1148
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: by vibing right. Like so many things that Einstein proved

1149
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 1: could not be proven correct in his time, he was

1150
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 1: just like, honey, I've vibed on it. This is what

1151
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: it is. And they're like, we have no way to

1152
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: measure it, and to like forty years and sometimes they

1153
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: were able to measure things at like speeds that were

1154
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: not measurable at the time. And back Actually the doll

1155
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 1: was right, right, I mean, and if anything, he's writing

1156
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: like literary theory. I mean, he's in a human righting department.

1157
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: He's literally kriplic, and he is doing lit cryptic and

1158
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 1: he is he is going around giving talks on you know,

1159
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 1: feminist readings of h He's Sontag. He's Susan Sontag. He Sontag.

1160
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: Literally it's not to on Camp and and then that

1161
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: brings it all together. And he literally was doing lecture

1162
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 1: tours like equals MC squared and not to on Camp

1163
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 1: have essentially the same thesis. Thank you, thank you, fuck

1164
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 1: fuck you guys. To think we almost did magic, I

1165
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:58,439
Speaker 1: can well, but isn't wealth. Ma I'll come back. Our

1166
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: alternative topic for all listeners was magic, and we chose math.

1167
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 1: And and of course, now that I'm flying high and

1168
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 1: in fact, maybe I am high on the caffeine that

1169
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 1: I had, I'm like, math is magic. Magic is math?

1170
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 1: I agree, And you know the only thing to go

1171
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 1: is up. Math is astrology. To your earlier point, I

1172
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 1: think it really was clarity, and let us say again,

1173
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 1: mental maths cake? Um? What was it? Mental mathis cake?

1174
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: Theoretical mathist, theoretical mathist camp that is, put that on

1175
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 1: a damn T shirt, bitch, and Sam, I want to

1176
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 1: go back to you because I feel like we are.

1177
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: I feel like you're you're actually mad at us because

1178
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 1: we're being so fucking insane and stupid but also smart. Sure, sure, now,

1179
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: I I like everything that you're saying. I think it's beautiful.

1180
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 1: I think it's um, it's it's aspirational. I think it's

1181
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 1: a little like um. Part of me feels like this

1182
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 1: is all great in theory, you know, but in practice?

1183
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: You know what am I going to do after this podcast?

1184
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:58,959
Speaker 1: Am I really gonna go open up a damn book

1185
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 1: and try to learn? I think you' of theoretical math.

1186
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, But I think you're also pointing to

1187
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 1: an even more important point, which is that theory is

1188
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: gay and practice straight. Yeah, you know What's what I mean.

1189
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: You can do theoretical math without doing any math. You

1190
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: won't understand a lot of it, but it is like,

1191
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 1: it's just like ideas. And if you are thinking you're

1192
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 1: doing theoretical math exactly, you're vibing. It's fibe fibe check

1193
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 1: past theoretical Saying you're gonna do something and then maybe

1194
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,919
Speaker 1: not doing it is very queer. And yeah, yeah that's true.

1195
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 1: I celebrate that, SA But yeah, I read a book

1196
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 1: when George and I can sort of give our bastardized

1197
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: understanding of theoretical Mathew, right now, this is like a book.

1198
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 1: I mean, don't be wrong. I I again love being

1199
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 1: informationally dommed. It's just part of me feels like, you know,

1200
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:53,959
Speaker 1: like this is a bit of a skewed rose colored

1201
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 1: glasses towards math perspective. And I think, you know that's

1202
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 1: good because there's so much negative press out there about math.

1203
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 1: You know, the press hates math. But um, it just

1204
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 1: feels a little you know, it's certainly not a democracy.

1205
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 1: We're not representing the will of the people in this podcast.

1206
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 1: We are fighting against the will of the people. Well

1207
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 1: here's the thing. And it's interesting that you say press

1208
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: against math because this is a kind of to change

1209
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 1: gears a little bit. Another element of math is a

1210
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 1: straight thing is actually the fetishization of like data, Like

1211
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: you know that you're reading article and it will be

1212
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 1: like it'll say something like se of people have eaten

1213
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 1: tuna and and then you have to bow down to

1214
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 1: that piece of information because it was because it was

1215
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 1: discovered in a study. There's nothing the media loves more

1216
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 1: than reporting the findings of a study that is straight,

1217
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: because that is buying into the limited, something so inherently

1218
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: limited as a study and saying this is how the

1219
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: world works based on this one study. Josh, what do

1220
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 1: you think? I agree. I think unfortunately that type of

1221
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 1: maths it's all become baseball statistics, you know what I mean.

1222
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 1: It's all Barry Bonds had a three to one rb

1223
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 1: I and faggots stealing like no, Naomi Smalls is more

1224
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 1: cunt than plastic like that, which is like not based

1225
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 1: in anything. But I think theoretical math is much closer

1226
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 1: to that. It's basically it's like string theory is pretty kind.

1227
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 1: It's like you are saying your commitment to bringing everything

1228
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: back to how string theory is kind is actually like

1229
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 1: we do. I feel like Sam and I have like

1230
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 1: toyed with the idea of also talking about other kinds

1231
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,959
Speaker 1: of math, and you and it, and it all comes

1232
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 1: back to string theory, is kind It all comes back

1233
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 1: to string theories, kunt and and and just I do

1234
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 1: want to repeat one more time. Mental maths, theoretical math

1235
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 1: is okay, no, but you're you're right, You're right. Unfortunately,

1236
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 1: the math, the everyday math, what's called everyday math that

1237
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 1: we no longer even use in our every day again

1238
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 1: it's a home at class. It's like, what are we

1239
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 1: even learning stuff for our grandparents? You know? It's like

1240
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 1: very tethered to straight and like I said, data and statistics,

1241
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: I mean talk about bias and standardized testing that is

1242
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 1: straight that straight. Nate Silver aside it well, and that's

1243
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 1: why silver and silver is gay and not queer. Oh,

1244
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 1: I mean barely gay nates your type, Sam. I actually

1245
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 1: don't know what he looks like, but I don't think type.

1246
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 1: He's not. He's not your type, but he does sort

1247
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 1: of look like a straight guy to me. He wears

1248
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: baseball caps, you know, la la Um. I mean he's

1249
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,759
Speaker 1: a little dweeby. And I don't think you go necessarily dweeby.

1250
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 1: I don't necessary, but I'm not above it. Um. I

1251
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 1: have to say to quote my co host Sam, She's okay, yeah,

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01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 1: you're right. I I keep bringing it back to this.

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01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 1: What other aspects of math do you want to wait into? Though? Well,

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01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 1: I mean I don't mean to keep bringing it back

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01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: to string theoryous cut No, no, no, I think I think.

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01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 1: I think you're right and that it does always go

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01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 1: back to string series cuent. I just you know, we

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01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 1: jumped straight towards it. I feel like we we went

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01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 1: about time. Can we talk about time? Can we talk

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01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 1: about time? Because time is math and the idea that

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01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 1: time is relative it feels very gay. Yes, what does

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01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 1: okay not to be a bit and like start a

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01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,680
Speaker 1: whole thing? What does that mean? When people are like

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01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:22,600
Speaker 1: time is relative? What the hell does that mean? Beautifully,

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01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 1: we don't really understand what time even is, which is great,

1266
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:30,759
Speaker 1: but time feels to us like a marker. It feels

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01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 1: like something everything is judged against, Like like, for instance,

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01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 1: speed is like how fast you move relative to distance,

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01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:43,719
Speaker 1: So distance feels fixed and the way you move feels relative. Right,

1270
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 1: So we often think time is fixed, but the reality

1271
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 1: is it is not. Because it's connected into space and gravity.

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01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 1: It's like another dimension that we don't totally understand. So

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01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 1: if you, Sam, move fast enough, time will go slower

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01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 1: for you. So time and this is like a measurable thing.

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01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 1: Now that time is not just like an inch like

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01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 1: we think it is, Like a second is not really

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01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 1: a second. You perceive of it as a second, right.

1278
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:09,600
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of different theories about why that is,

1279
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 1: and some of it's related to consciousness. It's the idea

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01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,719
Speaker 1: that maybe time doesn't exist at all and it's fully

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01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 1: of brain, artificet and other things, that it's just an

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01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 1: aspect of our universe that we don't quite have a

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01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 1: handle on yet. And can I add one more thing,

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01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,679
Speaker 1: because I think this will bring it home, is that

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01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 1: so time is one of the elements of like the

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01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 1: system we all exist in, like it is like of

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01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 1: course a core thing that I organized my life round

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01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 1: is time. So it is part of the system. So

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01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 1: the fact that theoretical math interrogates that means math is

1290
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:45,520
Speaker 1: systemic critique, and that is queer. That's queer, that's socialists.

1291
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 1: Also there's a lot of goofy ship with there's actually

1292
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 1: great book, Sam that's about the history and physics of time.

1293
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 1: I've read it more than once. I think it's really

1294
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 1: fun and it's sort of pop math, so it like

1295
01:10:55,680 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't what it's called in search of everything. I

1296
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 1: think i'd have to remember the exact title. But the

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01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 1: other goofy thing about time is, you know, we related

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01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 1: to ship that matters to us. So like casein point,

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01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 1: we call a year a year because that's how long

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01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 1: it takes us to go around the sun. We also

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01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 1: have like lunar cycles matter because mostly crops, but those

1302
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 1: don't line up because a lunar cycle is twenty eight

1303
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 1: days and a year is three sixty five and a quarter.

1304
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 1: So we've basically faked months that are like thirty or

1305
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 1: thirty one. But back before them that was like the

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01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:33,639
Speaker 1: Catholic Church was like, yeah, we can't. We gotta create

1307
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 1: a system, and so they did it. Before that, people

1308
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 1: did all sorts of fucked up things to make them reconcile.

1309
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,639
Speaker 1: There was like a Mayan culture that did twelve lunar

1310
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 1: months of twenty eight days. Then because there's an extra

1311
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 1: like eight days at the end before you get to

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01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 1: the next solar year, they just called the whole thing

1313
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 1: New Year's and they had an eight year party that

1314
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 1: existed outside of time, like you got to December twenty

1315
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 1: eight and then for eight days it was just party

1316
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 1: and then January one. Huh. And that's that's a funk

1317
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 1: that I mean, honey, if thy sunderland through that party

1318
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 1: now right, I mean to end the year with a

1319
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:11,559
Speaker 1: party just like that doesn't lost in time. Yeah, there's

1320
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 1: not a date. It's like December December party j one

1321
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 1: oh with time because I don't know obviously the Catholic Church,

1322
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 1: the Catholic shout out. I do feel that's that time

1323
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,639
Speaker 1: is still kind of um. That's the only freebee time.

1324
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:33,640
Speaker 1: And all of the time on the year is that

1325
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 1: weird time between Christmas and New Year's where you're like, yeah,

1326
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 1: I'm actually allowed to have fun now and you feel

1327
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 1: bad and it doesn't count and it doesn't count. So

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01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 1: I still celebrate that, and I say, go off my

1329
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 1: in culture, go off my culture. Yeah. Um, do we

1330
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 1: eliminate time's relativity? To use that is juicy? It's um.

1331
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:58,679
Speaker 1: I love that, I um you know, it's it's making

1332
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 1: me think, how in the shallow end I am of

1333
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 1: the pool of um an exploration of knowledge? I feel like,

1334
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 1: what is a second? I mean, like, how did we

1335
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 1: come up with a second good retort, Josh, No, it's

1336
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 1: so fun. It's like, what the funk were we doing?

1337
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 1: And how do I know that my second is your second?

1338
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 1: But it's but yeah, the only reason clocks work now,

1339
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:26,640
Speaker 1: the only reason you have GPS is quantum theory. They

1340
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 1: ultimately said, the only actual, reliable, measurable thing is atomic

1341
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 1: particles spitting out neutrons. Right, Well, GPS does complicate things

1342
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 1: because GPS is a straight technology. It's surveillance state to

1343
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 1: state and and yeah, I mean just because theoretical math

1344
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 1: is queer doesn't mean it can't be used for evil. Oh,

1345
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:51,679
Speaker 1: they weaponize everything we give them. I mean they people

1346
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 1: weaponize astrology. I mean, look at drag Race. Look at

1347
01:13:54,880 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 1: drag Race, say that, say that, say that? Okay, wow,

1348
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like we've pretty much gotten to

1349
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 1: the bottom of it. We've pretty much tackled time and space.

1350
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 1: And I mean, I think we're gonna win probably awards

1351
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 1: for this episode. I think, definitely awards, the Turner Prize maybe,

1352
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:16,719
Speaker 1: I think definitely Turner Prizes. Yeah, I think the first

1353
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 1: joint Turner Prize winners who are all white gaze ah.

1354
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 1: Since Turner himself, there hasn't been but one is Greek white.

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01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 1: That's true. That's true, is like really white at the beach.

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01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, just wait till July. I will be

1357
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 1: perfectly tan. Now to olive olive skinned queens ganging up

1358
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 1: on the white one. Honey, you've done been ganged up

1359
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 1: on me. I can't believe from the beginning of this,

1360
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 1: I thought I had it in the bag with you know,

1361
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 1: Josh and I go to the beach, and then as

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01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 1: soon as we hit around the fifteen minute mark, damn,

1363
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 1: it's been Sam. Why don't you go ahead and lay

1364
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 1: under this bus a math book, read a math book,

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01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 1: and then maybe I'll invite you to pasta night with

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01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 1: Sudie Green. Bitch. Unbelievable, the disrespect you know we should

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01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 1: all do. Right now, go get pasta. I'd be fucking camp.

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01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 1: That would be fucking camp. I thought I was sure

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01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 1: it was gonna be kink. I was sure pasta was kink.

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01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 1: Camp is pasta Camper? I guess it is camp. I

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01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 1: mean the camp. Can I tell you what felt kink

1372
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 1: about it to me? Is the fact that it's like

1373
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 1: eighty six degrees outside and eating pasta in eighty six

1374
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 1: degree weather feels very kink to me. Yeah, maybe you're right.

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01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:38,679
Speaker 1: You know, context pasta salad, a summer pasta salad. Oh yeah,

1376
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 1: that's camp. That's camp because that's recognizing the artifice of pasta.

1377
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 1: And so what if I get it cold? I mean

1378
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 1: the sad. Yeah, it's like, but it's pasta. Okay, You're like,

1379
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:53,719
Speaker 1: literally you thought the drag queen. Yeah, how about salad

1380
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 1: that's all carbs, honey. Yeah, maybe think when you say

1381
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 1: what salad is next time? A bit um damn? I mean,

1382
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 1: should we do our final segment? We have to. We

1383
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 1: have to the raw chickens coming any moment. I mean,

1384
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna check my bucks up. Yeah, I should check

1385
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 1: to Actually I thought it came in earlier, but I'm

1386
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:17,719
Speaker 1: just gonna see, like, yeah, no, it's definitely not here.

1387
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:19,600
Speaker 1: Earlier I had to keep from an unknown number and

1388
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 1: I was like, for sure, it's gradies, but it's actually

1389
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 1: Joe An Simon, Democrat for Brooklyn Borough President. And my

1390
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 1: notifications are simply oh you know. One of my notifications

1391
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 1: is in fact that we were tagged in a post

1392
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:38,679
Speaker 1: by our fan account. God wait, Sam, didn't it happen? Sorry, George.

1393
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 1: When we were at the beach, haven't. We were driving

1394
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 1: back from the beach, went to my phone, I went,

1395
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 1: and you went what And I was like, oh, we

1396
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 1: got a fan account. And then Sam texted me and

1397
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 1: I was in fact at a one year old's birthday party.

1398
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 1: At the one year old being, of course Cleo, the

1399
01:16:56,160 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 1: official baby, the official baby Glamour girl of the podcast. Yeah. Um,

1400
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 1: so so that was a big day for the PA,

1401
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 1: was a big day for both of us. I think, Um, George,

1402
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 1: our Finals, George, why do you keep doing that? I

1403
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 1: don't know. It's actually creeping me out, Georgia Finals, Josh,

1404
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 1: Our Finals, It's actually violence. It's yeah, oh no, I'm

1405
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 1: committing violence. You're being You're being actually arithmetic and not

1406
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 1: theoretical math right now by committing violence, okay, Josh. Our

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01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:28,680
Speaker 1: final segment is called um shoutouts, and we give a

1408
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 1: shout out to something we enjoy, sort of in the

1409
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 1: style of two dozen one. It's TRL and you're shouting

1410
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 1: out to squad back home, but just pretty much about

1411
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 1: anything you like. George, this time, I don't have one.

1412
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 1: I have I have literally like a tiny idea of

1413
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 1: what and I hope it will come to me as

1414
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 1: I speak Okay, what's up, listeners. Hope everyone is having

1415
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 1: an iconic day filled with theoretical math. I want to

1416
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 1: give a quick shout out to events where multiple people

1417
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 1: are on stage speaking. I'm talking panels, I'm talking Q

1418
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 1: and as I'm talking, someone doing a reading and then

1419
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 1: taking questions. These are things I used to find very

1420
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 1: um unimaginative, but now, having not had them for a

1421
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 1: year and a half, I am ready to go to

1422
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 1: a film screening and then have the director come out

1423
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 1: at the end and not be able to articulate his

1424
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 1: vision at all, take questions that he then responds rudely to,

1425
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 1: and then have one person get up and say, say

1426
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 1: it with me. This is more of a comment. So

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01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 1: give it up for that, all my queens, who I

1428
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:39,520
Speaker 1: love that? Um, okay, let me think of something very quickly. Um,

1429
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 1: I'm glancing out of my room. I'm glancing outside. Wait, Josh,

1430
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 1: do you have one if you need time? Because honestly,

1431
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 1: pasta salad reminded me shouts out gasp. Show I'm dealing

1432
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 1: with a little T M J issue right now. And

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01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 1: the dennist said, treat it like an intrey. It's like

1434
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 1: you played basketball and you spray your ankle, you lay

1435
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 1: up for a little while. And I was like, I

1436
01:18:57,479 --> 01:18:59,480
Speaker 1: get the message, even if I don't get the specifics.

1437
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 1: And he said eat soft foods, and I said, all right,

1438
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:04,600
Speaker 1: smoothies in the morning. Hell yeah, But what am I

1439
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 1: gonna do for lunch of dinner this summer? I don't

1440
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 1: want to soup. Yesterday I REMEMBEREDO bitch and I had

1441
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 1: a lovely little gaspacho, and I said, maybe it's gonna

1442
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 1: be a summer of gaspacho. Even when my right Josh

1443
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:20,640
Speaker 1: starts working again, shouts out, gaspaco. Okay, summer of gaspaco.

1444
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm listening now. Josh dropped the recipe. Well, I bought

1445
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 1: it at a place nearby because I actually have a

1446
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 1: vitam mix. I'm a smoothiequeen, so I should get a

1447
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 1: good gaspacho recipe and makeup. Okay, fine, second, but if

1448
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 1: you can't drop the recipe dropped? What was it called? Like?

1449
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 1: What kind of gaspaco was it? What kind of gaspaco

1450
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:41,680
Speaker 1: was it just was listed as gas felt like it

1451
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 1: took me a very traditional ye, it was a tomato

1452
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 1: based but in a while, so this felt like a

1453
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 1: sort of return to caspaco, you know, Okay, alright, summer.

1454
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:53,760
Speaker 1: What are the types of gaspaco are there that aren't

1455
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 1: tomato based? I just feel like I have a very

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01:19:56,920 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 1: distinct memory of once seeing watermelon gaspaco on a menu

1457
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 1: and losing my mind. That sounds really good. That sounds

1458
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:07,799
Speaker 1: really good. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna do the research

1459
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 1: and find that. Do the work. I'm gonna do the work.

1460
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,640
Speaker 1: The work. Oh and now I've had enough time to

1461
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 1: think about it, and um okay. This is somewhat related

1462
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 1: to Josh's what is up perverts out there? I just

1463
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:26,600
Speaker 1: would like to give a huge, hearty shout out to flossing.

1464
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 1: I started flossing in quarantine, and it was challenging at first,

1465
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 1: but has taught me that if you practice something, you

1466
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 1: will get better at it over time. I am actually

1467
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 1: quite good at flossing now, and yes, sometimes I still bleed,

1468
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 1: but I kind of celebrate it. It's a bit satisfying

1469
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 1: and kind of funny to spit out some blood. I

1470
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 1: find it a little bit playful, and you know, it's

1471
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,639
Speaker 1: kind of cool to be a little bit nasty. Everyone

1472
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:53,639
Speaker 1: knows that I've always felt this way. I don't wear

1473
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 1: a deodorant, and so you guys get it anyway. I

1474
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:58,719
Speaker 1: love you flossing, and I hope my teeth are better

1475
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 1: because of you. But I feel like there were sometimes

1476
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:05,759
Speaker 1: but I have no proof. Whoo flossing rules. I agree,

1477
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 1: I need to get into flossing. I I'm sorry to

1478
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 1: say this publicly. I don't floss. You will. I know

1479
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 1: you will, and it will be beautiful when you decide,

1480
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:18,759
Speaker 1: because no one can tell you to floss you, especially

1481
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 1: not my dentist twice a year. Maybe if you want

1482
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,600
Speaker 1: some incentive, start flossing. Sam and I are taking you

1483
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:29,639
Speaker 1: to the beach as a reward. All right, Um, well, Josh,

1484
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 1: thanks so much for doing the pod in a privilege.

1485
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 1: I'm I'm reeling. I'm gonna be thinking about this for

1486
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 1: a long time. I actually do feel like I thought

1487
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 1: I knew what the math episode of this podcast would be,

1488
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:45,600
Speaker 1: and this was absolutely not it at all. Yeah. I

1489
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 1: also had an idea, and we went, we went. I

1490
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 1: did not think we'd spend as much time talking about

1491
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 1: the theoretical math, even though I understand I mostly drove

1492
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 1: it that way. But once we got there, honestly, once

1493
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 1: we sort of synergize that it was camp I was,

1494
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,759
Speaker 1: I was soaring, Mama was flying. It really like made

1495
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 1: me remember that these are thoughts I have even ever had,

1496
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 1: Like when was the last time I thought about theoretical math?

1497
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 1: Couldn't tell you, And yet it seems like I have

1498
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 1: been wanting to talk about it for years. It's very

1499
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 1: refreshing to be like, oh right, there's like all these

1500
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 1: other big things I can think about, and I don't

1501
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 1: have to just like only think about like yours. Ariana's

1502
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 1: new look gonna be what's her new right? It's you know,

1503
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:31,880
Speaker 1: I might crack open h girdl Estra Bach tonight. I

1504
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:33,760
Speaker 1: might need you to loan me. Do you have you

1505
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:38,799
Speaker 1: read it? No? So to me, that's like the culture

1506
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,679
Speaker 1: around it a straight culture, but the book itself probably queer.

1507
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 1: I really do want to read it. I would love

1508
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:46,599
Speaker 1: to have. Well, Josh, I want to read your book

1509
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 1: about time. I'll give it to you. It's fun again,

1510
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 1: even when it gets into the weeds, It's like sometimes

1511
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't go into like hard math, Like there's not

1512
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:57,639
Speaker 1: a lot of like fucking figures and stuff. It's explaining

1513
01:22:57,680 --> 01:22:59,679
Speaker 1: concepts to you. So even when it's not totally clear,

1514
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 1: I thought, it's just it's music. It's like it's you

1515
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 1: don't get all the proper nounces, but you're sort of like,

1516
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 1: that's fucking trippy. It's a lot of like it's very

1517
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 1: Christopher Nolan, which is straight, but it's a lot of like,

1518
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 1: if you think of the time this way, it's wrong.

1519
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 1: If you think of it this way, it's also wrong.

1520
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:14,680
Speaker 1: So what is time? You're like, Damn, I love reflections

1521
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 1: on time in general, and so I do need the

1522
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 1: sort of the math science and and the first half

1523
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 1: is the history of just how we've conceived of time

1524
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 1: over time, and then it gets into the science the

1525
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 1: math of like how it works on We need more

1526
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 1: pop side books for gay audiences. Yeah, and I don't

1527
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:32,599
Speaker 1: know that this is for a gay audience, but but

1528
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 1: but certainly I had fun reading it. I mean, there

1529
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 1: we go. That's you're right, we need that needs to

1530
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 1: be a full genre, right, Like they are targeting straight men,

1531
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 1: they definitely are, and that's actually exclusionary. Well, you know,

1532
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 1: the did you guys read Less? I loved that was

1533
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 1: the reflection on time for gay men? Oh my god,

1534
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 1: you're so right, Sam, You're so Less is a work

1535
01:23:56,160 --> 01:24:02,559
Speaker 1: of theoretical math. Yeah, ultimately very interesting. Um okay, well

1536
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:04,679
Speaker 1: Josh will let you go, but this was a delight

1537
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:06,760
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, and I'm gonna let you guys

1538
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 1: go as well, just so it's you know, please, I've

1539
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 1: been bound this whole time. Okay, but don't here