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Speaker 2: What my name will cover the full gamt gamut? Excuse me,

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Speaker 2: but what the hell? Let's waste no time and let's

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Speaker 2: get to the latest Caitlin Clark saga. And as you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm a Caitlin Clark fan. I've defended her. I've been

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Speaker 2: objective about her, but most people aren't. Most people are subjective.

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Speaker 2: So where am I going with this? Let me start

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Speaker 2: with this headline. If it can happen to Isaiah Thomas,

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Speaker 2: It can happen to Caitlin Clark. What am I talking about? Well,

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Speaker 2: when the committee constructed the nineteen ninety two Dream Team,

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Speaker 2: they wanted Michael Jeffrey Jordan on no uncertain term. So

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Speaker 2: they sent Jordan a text and or there was no texting.

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Speaker 2: Then they called him and said, Jordan can get can

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Speaker 2: we get your commitment? Well, fax me, fax me the roster.

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Speaker 2: That's what he did. Foxed me the roster. They faxed

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Speaker 2: him the roster in Isaiah Thomas's name was on there. No,

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. Well, they had a conundrum there,

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Speaker 2: so they said, well, wait, let's wait a minute, let's

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Speaker 2: shift the roster on. Let's fax him another roster that

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Speaker 2: had Isiah Thomas's name on it, and Jordane I don't

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Speaker 2: think so. They finally figured out and put two and

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Speaker 2: two together when Isaiah walked off the floor of the

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety one playoffs, when the torch was handed and

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Speaker 2: they faxed the third roster in Isaiah's name was not that.

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Speaker 2: Jordan goes okay out play. You don't have to be

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Speaker 2: felleny to figure out what happened there. Jordan did not

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Speaker 2: want Isaiah on the team. If it can happen to

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Speaker 2: Charles Barkley, I guess it could happen to Caitlyn Clark.

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Speaker 2: I'll always be a little baffled. While back in the

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four Olympics, which were played in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 2: and I saw this Dream Team play, they weren't the

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Speaker 2: Dream Team then. By the way, if I never hear

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Speaker 2: the team termed Dream Team again, it'll be too soon.

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Speaker 2: Bobby Knight cut Charles Barkleton from the team. Now, I

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Speaker 2: don't care if Barkley was the round round mount to rebound,

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Speaker 2: he's for me to say. But this is a guy

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Speaker 2: He ran around the court like he was his pants

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Speaker 2: are on fire and it was raining gasoline. The dude

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Speaker 2: could play. He was a six to six stuff. But Charles,

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Speaker 2: it was believed by Bobby Knight, might disrupt the chemistry

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Speaker 2: of the team. He thought he had some defensive shortcomings

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Speaker 2: and he wasn't sharp in Bobby Knight's view, and he

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Speaker 2: So if it can happen to Charles Barkley, it can happen,

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Speaker 2: and it can happen to Isaiah Thomas and John Stockton. Well,

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Speaker 2: I guess it could happen to Caitlin Clark, right, But

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Speaker 2: there seems to be a notion out there that Clark

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Speaker 2: didn't deserve to be on the team in the first

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Speaker 2: place based on merit. Okay, talk amongst yourselves, argue all

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Speaker 2: the hell you want. First of all, these decisions are

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Speaker 2: against just about anybody on the roster. Just look at

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Speaker 2: the roster. So let's do this. How about some statistics

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Speaker 2: and just relax out there and don't lose your mind.

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Speaker 2: I'm not advocating that you should be on the team,

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Speaker 2: nor would I advocate that you should be off the teaming.

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Speaker 2: You what I would consider to be journalistically objective truths.

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Speaker 2: You see, there are objective truths in our personal feelings.

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Speaker 2: For those who don't want Clark on the team, you're

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Speaker 2: It's solitaire. For those who want Clark on the team.

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Speaker 2: the stats. Caitlin Clark is thirteenth in the WNBA points

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Speaker 2: By the way, Clark also became the first rookie and

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah. She's also the fastest player in the history

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Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark, we are learning found out just a couple

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Speaker 2: hours before her game the other night that she was

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Speaker 2: set a WNBA rookie record, tying seven threes and scored

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Speaker 2: They say John Stockton deserved it. Bobby Knight cut both

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Speaker 2: It's okay, It's okay to have opinions. This is America.

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Speaker 2: Certain reporters that I respect believe this is some of

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Speaker 2: the worst bad athletes selection decision in forty years. People

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Speaker 2: But I guess you shouldn't be surprised. The Olympic Games

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Speaker 2: I'm just reporting to you what I have seen. Look,

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Speaker 2: these are twelve man rosters. There's only one hundred and

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Speaker 2: There was a groundswell of people who didn't want her there,

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Speaker 2: same way they didn't want Isaiah Thomas there. And Bobby

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Speaker 2: Knight had his reasons for cutting Charles Barkley one narrative

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Speaker 2: that came out this week. Because I'm a big Gino

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Speaker 2: Everybody's unnoledgeable on the WNBA. They've been playing for twenty

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Speaker 2: six years, never made a damn dime. You know you

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Speaker 2: don't go to games, you're off. I got a million

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Speaker 2: If you go to a WNBA games, tweet at me.

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Speaker 2: just doesn't thrill me. I can't tell you. Why hold

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Speaker 2: Some people like olives. I don't need olives. And I'm Italian.

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Speaker 2: Figure that one out. So look, I wasn't real happy

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Speaker 2: Clark doesn't get a free trip to Paris. She's got

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Speaker 2: Too bad, too sad. See, you wouldn't want to be again,

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Speaker 2: I'm not that upset that she's left off the team.

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Speaker 2: If it can happen to Charles Barkley, it can happen

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Speaker 2: to Isaiah Thomas. You can after Kaitlin Clark. One other thing, Gino,

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Speaker 2: you're telling me you're making a decision after ten twelve

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Speaker 2: you say that about Steph Curry his first year in

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Speaker 2: That's what happens when they blitch you. They play fierce defense,

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Speaker 2: She's in their head man, And you know what, Let's

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Speaker 2: Rado has his own podcast, clearly has his finger on

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Speaker 5: Hi, Ryan, Oh, Bernie, thank you so much for having

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Speaker 2: Glad to have you, man, because this is becoming a story.

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Speaker 2: We are closing in on July fourth, which is the

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought up Acunya because they made a

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Speaker 5: of weeks is for the most part, the Dodgers' offense

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Speaker 5: was kind of disappearing on nights, and then they would

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Speaker 5: have a night like this one where they'd explode for

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Speaker 5: double runs.

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Speaker 2: You bring up a good point on Max Mounsey. I

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Speaker 2: se'd to remember him hitting well with runners in scoring position,

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Speaker 2: and one need not to look back too far. The

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Speaker 2: Dodgers were nine for fifty one with runners in scoring

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Speaker 2: position in the past two postseasons. That can't happen again.

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Speaker 2: Do you expect the Dodgers to perhaps to make a

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Speaker 2: move here before the trade deadline to try to shore

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Speaker 2: up the back end of the lineup.

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Speaker 5: I would I would. I would imagine they're probably going

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Speaker 5: to look outfield. Infield would be best. The problem is

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Speaker 5: that there's not a ton of options in terms of

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Speaker 5: infield on the trade deadline at the moment. We'll see

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Speaker 5: what kind of opens up.

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Speaker 6: A lot of.

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Speaker 5: People speculated prior to the season that Willie Damas would

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Speaker 5: make a ton of sense for the Dodgers. He's got

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Speaker 5: one year left in Milwaukee. He's having a great season.

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Speaker 5: But that was prior to the season when everybody figured

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Speaker 5: the Brewers weren't going to be good, and they're actually good.

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Speaker 5: So that's been a problem. It's suddenly now a Domas

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Speaker 5: isn't available, so outside of him, there's not really many

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Speaker 5: short stops available on the trade market. It will be

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Speaker 5: interesting to see what the Cardinals choose to do, because

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Speaker 5: you kind of figure, if they're not really in contention

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Speaker 5: this year, it would make sense for them to offload

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Speaker 5: both Goldsmid and Aeronado in some way. And so if

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Speaker 5: we're if we're getting you know, real wild here, Nolan

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Speaker 5: Aeronado at third for the Dodgers would make sense. But

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Speaker 5: he's not you know, he's not Nolan Aernado as he

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Speaker 5: was a few years ago, but he definitely would be

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Speaker 5: an upgrade from what they've got right now to move

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Speaker 5: months over to second. But it will probably be an

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Speaker 5: outfielder because that market might be a little more open.

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Speaker 5: I think a guy like Tyler O'Neill is great. Unfortunately

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Speaker 5: he has been struggling with injuries that he just got

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Speaker 5: injured again a couple of days ago. But yet I

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Speaker 5: would expect them to look for a bat, even though

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Speaker 5: they've been good against left handed pitching, Probably a right

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Speaker 5: handed back given the way that they like the platoon guys,

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Speaker 5: and you look at the outfield right now, and with

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Speaker 5: with Jason Hey who will still be on the bench,

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Speaker 5: you figure Gavin Lusse will still be on the bench,

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Speaker 5: So a right handed that would make sense.

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Speaker 2: Ran just got about a minute. But speaking of left

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Speaker 2: handed pitching, I understand Clayton Kershaw through a one inning

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Speaker 2: simulated game over the weekend. Plan is to get him

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Speaker 2: back by around the first week in July. How big

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Speaker 2: will it be to get Clayton Kershaw back into this rotation?

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Speaker 5: You know, this might sound surprising to people, but not

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Speaker 5: really that big, and that's because of a couple of things. One,

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Speaker 5: the Dodgers' rotation has been stellar this season. Tyler Glass

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Speaker 5: now is an ace. Yoshinobu Yamamoto has been fantastic, and

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Speaker 5: we saw I think that Friday night you can really

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Speaker 5: call his coming out party to go into New York

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Speaker 5: in that hostel environment and the deal in the way

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Speaker 5: that he did. He's phenomenal. He's the real deal. And

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Speaker 5: then beyond him, Gavin Stone, who we saw tonight, is great.

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Speaker 5: He's having a great season. They're about to get Bobby

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Speaker 5: Miller back as well. So you figure, if you're looking

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Speaker 5: at a playoff rotation right now, you've got last Now

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Speaker 5: going game one, y'am, the Moto Game two, and then

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Speaker 5: probably Bobby Miller Game three, and looking at a game four,

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Speaker 5: you can go with Gavin Stone. If Walker Buehller gets

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Speaker 5: back on track more, he could start that game. And

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Speaker 5: and you figure, if you're if you're banking on a

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Speaker 5: guy to get back on track more between Bueller and Kershaw,

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Speaker 5: you're gonna lean Bueller there. So really it's not a

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Speaker 5: huge deal. Once Kershaw does get healthy. I think the

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Speaker 5: the importance of Clayton Kershaw is really kind of as

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Speaker 5: a as a figurehead at this point, right, Like, as

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Speaker 5: Dodger fans, we just want to see Clayton Kershaw pitch

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Speaker 5: and finish his career with the Dodgers. I think that's

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Speaker 5: the biggest thing for me personally, is you think about

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Speaker 5: his last last time we saw him in the majors

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Speaker 5: was that terrible postseason outing where he was he really

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Speaker 5: should end up been pitching, but the Dodgers really only

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Speaker 5: had two starting pitchers going into the postseason, and he

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Speaker 5: tried to put the team on his back, but he

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Speaker 5: was at like fifty percent health and was very obvious

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Speaker 5: and he got sheltered six runs and a third of

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Speaker 5: an inning. Yeah, really, more than anything, having Kershaw come

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Speaker 5: back would just mean that we can not have that

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Speaker 5: be the last time we saw Kwayton Kershaw. More than anything.

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Speaker 5: If he comes back and he pitches well, and he

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Speaker 5: pitches well enough to be a piece of the postseason rotation,

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Speaker 5: that's a gigantic plus. But I wouldn't bank on it

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Speaker 5: at this point in his career.

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Speaker 2: But it will be great to see.

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Speaker 5: Him back just in general. But yes, overall, the big

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Speaker 5: point with Kershaw is that the rotation is so loaded

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Speaker 5: as it is that if he's in the playoff rotation.

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Speaker 5: It's because of probably an injury, and that wouldn't be great.

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Speaker 2: Ryan, great stuff. That's exactly why we have you on

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Speaker 2: setting the record straight. I guess I won't bother asking

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Speaker 2: about Trevor Bauer. Enjoy your evening, my friend. Enjoy the

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Speaker 2: rest of the weekend. Oh you super and thank you

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Speaker 2: so much. That is Ryan Berschinger, The Sick Podcast the

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Speaker 2: Dodgers owned. Obviously, you can see he's got his finger

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Speaker 2: on the pulse. We're gonna look ahead to Seltz Mavericks,

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Speaker 2: but I gotta look back. What the hell happened in

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Speaker 2: Game one. I'll give you my thoughts and breakdown, but

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Speaker 2: first let's go to our guy, the hardest working man

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Speaker 2: in rock and roll, Martin Weiss were the latest.

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Speaker 7: The Florida Panthers took Game one to the Stanley Cup

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Speaker 7: Final three to nothing over the Edmonton Oilers. In baseball,

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Speaker 7: t Oscar Hernandez hit two home runs, including a Grand Slam,

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Speaker 7: as the Dodgers beat the Yankees for the second straight

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Speaker 7: night in a row. Aaron Judge had two home runs

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Speaker 7: in the eleven to three loss.

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Speaker 4: The Reds one their.

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Speaker 7: Seventh straight game, beating the Cubs four to three, Andrew

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Speaker 7: Abbott gets his fifth win on the year. Cincinnati improved

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Speaker 7: to thirty two and thirty three. Second in the NL Central.

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Speaker 7: Toronto shut out of Oakland seven and nothing Kevin Gossman with

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Speaker 7: a complete game, complete game win there. Ten strikeouts for Gossman.

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Speaker 7: Padres beat the Diamondbacks thirteen to one. San Diego as

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Speaker 7: outscored Arizona twenty three to four in the last two games.

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Speaker 7: Philly's beat them at seven to two in London. Bryce

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Speaker 7: Harper had three hits, including his fifteenth homer. Fifty four

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Speaker 7: thousand people in attendance there. Philadelphia improved to forty five

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Speaker 7: and nineteen on the year. Guardians went eight to nothing

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Speaker 7: over the Marlins. Cleveland with the three game lead over

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Speaker 7: the Royals in the AL Central. The Astros beat the

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Speaker 7: Angels six to one. Astros five games under five hundred

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Speaker 7: at thirty and thirty five. Like you just said, Bernie.

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Speaker 7: Game two of the NBA Finals is Sunday night in Boston.

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Speaker 7: Celtics lead the Mavericks one to nothing in the series.

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Speaker 7: College Baseball Super Resonals North Carolina, Florida State, and Virginia

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Speaker 7: all advance. Evansville beat number one Tennessee to force a

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Speaker 7: game three. Later today, Scotti Sheffler leaves the memorial by

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Speaker 7: four strokes and men's soccer. US men's soccer lost five

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Speaker 7: to one in an exhibition against Columbia.

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Speaker 4: Bernie back to you.

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Speaker 2: All right, Martin, that's so fun, and I, Buddy, Well,

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Speaker 2: a little later in the show, I will share with

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Speaker 2: you which player I think holds the key to game two.

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Speaker 2: But first we have to look back at game one. Obviously,

565
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Speaker 2: the Celtics welcomed Kyrie Irving back to TD Garden. Not

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Speaker 2: it was very rude welcoming. Dallas gets beat by eighteen.

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Speaker 2: The game was not really that, say. Boston led by

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Speaker 2: as many as twenty nine points in the first half,

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Speaker 2: and Luca got a little hot in the third quarter,

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Speaker 2: cut the deficit to nine in the third quarter, and

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Speaker 2: the Celtics collectively said, not up in here, not up

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Speaker 2: in here. Give it up to Jalen Brown. He played.

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Speaker 2: He was a man possessed on both ends of the floor.

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Speaker 2: You can tell he really wants this. Twenty two points,

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Speaker 2: seven to twelve, three blocks, three steals. Chris STAPs Porsingis

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Speaker 2: comes back from what a sixty day hiatus and a

577
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Speaker 2: calf injury. He hadn't played, well, maybe not that long.

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Speaker 2: He hadn't played since the first round of the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Hes course, twenty points had the post drives block. His

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Speaker 2: presence was felt on both ends of the floor. Now, look,

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Speaker 2: let's break this game down from a logical standpoint. Now,

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Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'm no high school dropout. I went

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Speaker 2: to full six years. But here's the math issue that

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Speaker 2: Dallas had. We all know that Boston is the most

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Speaker 2: prolific three point shooting team in the league. They attempted

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Speaker 2: fifteen more threes than Dallas did. Boston attempted forty two threes.

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Speaker 2: Dallas only attempted twenty seven. But Boston made nine more

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Speaker 2: three pointers than Dallas did, sixteen to seven. That's a terrible, terrible,

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Speaker 2: terrible formula for the Dallas Mavericks and Luka Doncic justifiably

590
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Speaker 2: gave to Celtics a lot of credit. He said, listen,

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Speaker 2: they're spacing is very good. They got a lot of shooters,

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Speaker 2: so you know, we've got to do a little bit

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Speaker 2: better job of taking those threes away. Well, don't tell me,

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Speaker 2: show me that's easier said than done. The Celtics shoot

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Speaker 2: more threes than anybody, and Dallas's defense has been excellent

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Speaker 2: the past few months. But they've made their bones protecting

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Speaker 2: the paint, not necessarily taking away threes. This could be

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Speaker 2: they're real. This could be the bugaboo as this series

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Speaker 2: goes on. Now, the MAVs could perhaps go with a

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Speaker 2: smaller lineup in Game two. They did this at times

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Speaker 2: in the opener. But you know, the truth of the

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Speaker 2: matter is Daniel Gafford and Derek LaVey, who's been outstanding

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs. He only played eighteen minutes because they

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Speaker 2: both got into foul trouble. They're the ones that have

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Speaker 2: given Dallas their defensive identity. So I don't know what

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Speaker 2: Dallas does to slow Boston down. Maybe you can test

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Speaker 2: everything right, you close out on the shooter. But if

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Speaker 2: the Celtics make their threes and Dallas doesn't, this may

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Speaker 2: not This may not be a good situation for the

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Speaker 2: good folks in Dallas. Another massive discrepancy, the assist discrepancy.

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Speaker 2: This isn't normal. The Mavericks finished the game with nine

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Speaker 2: assists the whole team, and a couple of them, by

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Speaker 2: the way, came in garbage time. Dallas had more turnovers

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Speaker 2: eleven than assists nine. Boston had as many blocks as

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Speaker 2: Dallas did assists. So even when the MAVs appeared to

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Speaker 2: have a little bit of momentum in the third quarter,

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Speaker 2: they weren't any kind of offensive rhythm. Go back and

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Speaker 2: look at the game. They didn't have a single assist

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Speaker 2: in the third quarter, even though they were closing in

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Speaker 2: on the lead. Jason Kidd after the game was pretty obvious.

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Speaker 2: He said, look, we got to move the ball more.

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Speaker 2: The ball got stuck too much. But the Celtics they

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Speaker 2: did the exact opposite Jason Tatum, Derk White, Drew Holiday.

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Speaker 2: They moved the ball with purpose. Boston had twenty three assists,

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Speaker 2: about its average for the season, and they offensively did

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Speaker 2: exactly what they needed to do, and the game was

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Speaker 2: never really in question. So the bottom line is this,

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Speaker 2: you get to tee it up again on Sunday night,

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Speaker 2: and a little later in the show, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: talk about which player I think is going to be

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Speaker 2: the most pivotal, and this particular player actually disappeared a

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Speaker 2: little bit in the OKC series, but Dallas was able

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Speaker 2: to still win. But Boston clearly is not. Okay. See

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Speaker 2: now this series is not over, not by a long shot.

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Speaker 2: But you really don't want to go down to if

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Speaker 2: you're the MAVs. Boston is famous for stinking it up

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Speaker 2: in game two's Dallas is famous for stinking it up

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Speaker 2: in game ones. I believe they lost both the Clippers,

639
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 2: and they had another opponent in the first in the

640
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Speaker 2: earlier in the playoffs where they were down by like

641
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Speaker 2: twenty five in those games, still came back obviously won

642
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 2: those series might have been okay, See it doesn't matter.

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00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 2: It's all in the past. Anyway. Coming up, I want

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00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 2: to also share with you why this series is personal.

645
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 2: There's a bit of a history between the Celts and MAVs.

646
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 2: It's actually a little more personal than you realize, and

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Speaker 2: you may have forgotten. I will rekindle your memory. I'm

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Speaker 2: Bernie frattlew Comedy Live from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: TIRECT dot Com Studios. Keep it locked right here. You're

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Speaker 2: listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, back of the Bernie Fraudle Show, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: B Are Comedy live from the TARAC dot Com studios

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Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas. Coming up top of the hour,

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Speaker 2: about eleven minutes from now, Medina Magic Mark Medina or

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio and be a Guru will join us

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Speaker 2: as he always does midnight on the Bernie Frattle Show,

657
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 2: and we've got a lot to talk about. Obviously, the

658
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 2: finals pick up again in Game two Sunday night, and

659
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: we'll get into the we'll get into the Danny Hurley thing.

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00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: But I'm not going to really speculate too much on

661
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: whether or not Mark thinks he's going to take the

662
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 2: job or what. We don't know. Okay, I do know this.

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Speaker 2: I have my reasons why I don't think he will,

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Speaker 2: and I talked to somebody today who's pretty close to

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Speaker 2: the situation. No one really knows. But he'll be heavily

666
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 2: influenced by his father, I believe, and I think he'll

667
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 2: be heavily influenced by his wife, who's a Jersey City girl.

668
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Speaker 2: Not that he doesn't want to be the NBA someday,

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Speaker 2: but there are horses for courses and at this time

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Speaker 2: in history. And I'll give you a little bit more

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Speaker 2: detail later on the show as to what I think

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00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 2: the thoughts are. You know, he's an exquisite teacher. Will

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Speaker 2: he do what he do well? Yeah, I think he would.

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00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 2: I mean, the man was born to coach. He's a

675
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: chip off the jo block. His father the Bob, who

676
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: is a legendary coach Saint Anthony's High School. If you

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00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 2: ever heard this guy talk about basketball, it's like listening

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00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: to God talk about basketball. But we'll get to that.

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00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 2: I will say this also, I want to get I

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Speaker 2: want to talk to Mark about the disappearance of JJ Reddick.

681
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 2: Now I'm not sourced as well as Mark on these things,

682
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 2: but I can call people too. And I had heard

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Speaker 2: something along the lines of there was real questions about

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Speaker 2: JJ Reddick getting the staff he wanted. I think he

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Speaker 2: reached out to Sam Cassell. Did I confirm that twice? No,

686
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Speaker 2: but I heard it. Sam Cassell is like, no, I

687
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Speaker 2: don't think so. I don't want to ride shotgun with you.

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00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 2: I don't blame Sam Cassell. He once a head coaching job.

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00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: Same with James Barrego. All of a sudden, now it's

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00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: one thing to have a concept and an idea and

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Speaker 2: oh it looks good. He slicks his hair back like

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Speaker 2: that rally used to Hey, here we go. Yeah, seven

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Speaker 2: coaches and four lem you get the picture. You got

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Speaker 2: to be careful this could go really wrong, really fast.

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Speaker 2: And I think although JJ Redick is a basketball savant,

696
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Speaker 2: he had a pretty good care in the NBA, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean he's gonna take over this most prestigious, probably

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Speaker 2: the most glory franchise in all the NBA. I believe that,

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Speaker 2: and I know I was an intern there back in

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Speaker 2: the day. So the long and short of it is,

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Speaker 2: I'm more curious is what the hell happened to JJ

702
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Speaker 2: Reddick versus you know what Danny Hurley's gonna do. But

703
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 2: we got the finals too. Let's not let it overshadow

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Speaker 2: the finals. By the way, this is the point in

705
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Speaker 2: the playoffs where you look at teams and you look

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Speaker 2: at the MAVs, you look at the Celtics, and you

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Speaker 2: reflect on their journey. So no matter who wins these

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Speaker 2: NBA finals, both these franchises, they earn their way there.

709
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: There are a hundred games in and the truth of

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00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 2: the matter is there are gonna be big storylines no

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00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 2: matter who wins it. All right, there are a couple

712
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Speaker 2: of key players that I'm focused on. Now here's why

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00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 2: I said it was personal. Six years ago. Remember, Kyrier

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Speaker 2: Irving was supposed to be the future of the Boston Celtics,

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Speaker 2: and then, of course he left on bad terms. But

716
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Speaker 2: six years ago, in twenty eighteen, before Kyrie Irving was loathed,

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00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 2: he was injured a lot, but he wasn't loathed yet.

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00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: Two of his young teammates, these two guys you may

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00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 2: have heard of him, Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown, they

720
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 2: let Boston on a shocking run to Game seven of

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Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference Finals. They almost beat Lebron James when

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Speaker 2: he was in his prime. Still that since then, Boston

723
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: has not done a hell of a lot. They had

724
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Speaker 2: a twenty twenty two run to the NBA Finals and

725
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 2: multiple Conference finals appearances. But when they see Kylie Irving

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Speaker 2: take the floor in Boston, people are triggered. And for

727
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 2: good reason. It didn't go well there. It did in

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Speaker 2: well there. He was booed every time he touched the ball.

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Speaker 2: Here's a chance for Kyrie to change that narrative. Let's

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Speaker 2: also not forget it's personal because five years ago christapspor

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Speaker 2: Singers was supposed to be for Dallas what Luke Donchik

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Speaker 2: and Kyrie Irving are doing now a potential running mate. Instead,

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00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: their styles clashed on the court. Of course, sing has

734
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Speaker 2: became a bit of a liability in the offensive and

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Speaker 2: defensive ends. He left Dallas in twenty twenty two, and

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Speaker 2: since then Dallas has seemingly rebounded with Kyrie Irving. So

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Speaker 2: either Kyrie Irving is going to get another ring and

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Speaker 2: Lucas gonna get his first ring, or Jalen Brown and

739
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum are going to get the monkey off their back,

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Speaker 2: and make no mistake, they do have a monkey on

741
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Speaker 2: their back. They gotta win. But boy, I'll tell you,

742
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 2: I really impressed with the way Jalen Brown stepped up

743
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: the other night. So this series is personal. There are

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Speaker 2: storylines among the teams. There are storylines among players Chris

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Speaker 2: DApps formerly a Mav and Kyrie formerly a Celtic. I'm

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Speaker 2: watching that ever so closely. Coming up, But we bring

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Speaker 2: on our Fox Sports Radio NBA guru, Mark Medina Medina Magic.

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Speaker 2: Keep it locked right here. You're listening to the Bernie

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Speaker 2: Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Game two of the NBA Finals about seventeen hours away.

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Speaker 2: We've got big news involving coaches who seem to have

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Speaker 2: vacated the scene, coaching candidates and a new one entering

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Speaker 2: the scene, and of course all kinds of stuff involving

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Speaker 2: the NBA. That's why every Saturday night on the Bernie

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Speaker 2: Fratle Show, three simple words, It's that time. Markmandina Medina Magic,

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Speaker 2: our Fox Sports Radio NBA guru joins us every week

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00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 2: at this time, Mark as usual, not a slow news week.

769
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 2: When we sign off every week, I say, I can't

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Speaker 2: wait to see what the new cycle brings next week,

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00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 2: and here we go. I want to come in from

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Speaker 2: left field here though. I want to talk about JJ Reddick.

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Speaker 2: Well happened, Lucy? I mean, it seemed like it was trending,

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Speaker 2: but I don't mean to lead the witness, but I

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Speaker 2: want you to tell me if there's any merit to

776
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Speaker 2: what I think I heard from a source I trust.

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Speaker 2: He reached out to Sam Cassel as an assistant. Sam

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Speaker 2: Cassel said, nope, and same with James Brego. I don't

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Speaker 2: blame E the one of those guys. They went head

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Speaker 2: coaching jobs. So all of a sudden it started to

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00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: look like it might have sounded good conceptually, but when

782
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 2: the rubber hit the road, this might not work. Your thoughts,

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Speaker 2: does any of that make sense? Is there any merit

784
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Speaker 2: to that?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, some of it can make sense, But I think

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Speaker 6: that the reality is you might not believe me, but

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Speaker 6: I think how the Lakers channeled the coaching starts at

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00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 6: the beginning is fairly the same as how it's played out.

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Speaker 6: And here's what I mean by this. Outside you know,

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Speaker 6: and I'm not talking media people, I'm talking you know

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Speaker 6: people around the league. There was a thought that JJ

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Speaker 6: Reick's the guy the Lakers are just buying their time

793
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 6: into the NBA Finals ends and then they'll they'll hire them.

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00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 6: But the Lakers from the very jump were always adamant

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Speaker 6: that they interviewed JJ Reddick but they're going to interview

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Speaker 6: other candidates. They're going to take their time, They're going

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Speaker 6: to talk to each candidate about how they would be

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Speaker 6: as a head coach, how would they be, you know,

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Speaker 6: as part of a coaching staff. And so as this

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Speaker 6: pertains to Dan Hurley, it's my understanding that, yes, obviously

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Speaker 6: this week changed a lot of things as far as

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Speaker 6: their confidence level that Dan Hurley could accept an offer,

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Speaker 6: and that's not guaranteed, but at least there's a confidence level.

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Speaker 6: But they expressed an interest and had early communications well

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Speaker 6: before this. The Lakers just you know, made sure wasn't

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Speaker 6: getting out there because they didn't feel any certain way

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00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 6: on whether it would actually happen. Now, this doesn't mean

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00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 6: it's actually going to happen because they generally has a

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Speaker 6: good thing going on at Yukon and he's won championships

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Speaker 6: there and you know, even though in the nil era,

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Speaker 6: there's probably more stability at Yukon than there is with

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Speaker 6: the Lakers. But I think as it pertains this week,

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Speaker 6: it got out because there's a little bit more confidence

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Speaker 6: that they're deeper in the process with us. But who knows.

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Speaker 6: I mean, this has been such a wild roller because

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Speaker 6: really anything can happen.

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Speaker 2: Well, you spot on that the Lakers interviewed several candidates,

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Speaker 2: including James Brago and Shamkusale and I think even David Adelman,

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Speaker 2: who's an assistant with Denver, including JJ Redick, and it

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Speaker 2: was after they interviewed all those guys that it was

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Speaker 2: still being reported that JJ Reddick was the one that

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Speaker 2: they were enamored with. So it was after those other

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Speaker 2: guys were interviewed that that narrative continued. Is there any

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Speaker 2: bigger event that you have observed that may have changed

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Speaker 2: the narrative and causes the whole process to pivot.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a really good question, and I'm always humbable

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Speaker 6: by what I don't know. But here's what I do know,

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Speaker 6: at least from what I've been told, is that there

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Speaker 6: was never any feeling that the Lakers all of a sudden,

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Speaker 6: we're having second thoughts about JJ Redick for suddenly soured

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Speaker 6: or anything like that. Their impression of him was the

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Speaker 6: same as it was when this process started. You know,

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Speaker 6: obviously you get to know them, et cetera, and that helps,

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Speaker 6: but there wasn't any you know, epiphany where all of

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Speaker 6: a sudden they're getting concerns about JJ Redick. So there

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Speaker 6: was just more especially around the NBA draft, combine a

837
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Speaker 6: lot of feeling from other people around the league just

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Speaker 6: talking that they had a conclusion and the impression that

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Speaker 6: JJ Redick's their guy and it's to lose. But all

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00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 6: I can say is from at least my laned, the

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00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 6: Lakers messaging hasn't really changed that much.

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Speaker 2: There was.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, JJ Reddick's interesting, but we're talking to a lot

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Speaker 6: of different people and we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 2: Talking with Mark Medina Medina Magic every Saturday night. Here

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Speaker 2: to Bernie Fradshaw, a Fox Sports Radio NBA guru. All Right,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to really speculate a lot on Danny Hurley.

848
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 2: I've got my thoughts. I made a couple of calls today.

849
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 2: When do you think the decision will be made either

850
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 2: way with respect to whether he accepts the position or

851
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: he decides to stay at Yutah.

852
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 6: I would expect we have clarity sometime this week. You know,

853
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 6: I don't think whether he stays or not, that this

854
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 6: is a decision that's going to be dragged out, no doubt,

855
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 6: A very good problem for him to have as far

856
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 6: as how he weighs it. But I think that you

857
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 6: know now this week is going to be the moment

858
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 6: of clarity and then don't see what happens. What's your

859
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 6: prediction were on the topic.

860
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: So I spent significant time on this Friday night, and

861
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: I will later in the show, and I'm putting it

862
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 2: out on the record, and I will take my medicine

863
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong. I say it's ten percent that he

864
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 2: accepts the position. Wow, let me repeat. I say it's

865
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 2: ten percent he accepts the job. It's not zero, but

866
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 2: it ain't fifty to fifty. I don't want I'm gonna

867
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: if you're up late, I will revisit. I will paraphrase

868
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,439
Speaker 2: what I spent time, significant time talking about last night.

869
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 2: And I made a few calls today. And if you

870
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 2: understand his wife and Andrea, and where she's from and

871
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 2: where her roots are, and his father, there's a lot

872
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 2: that's going to go into this decision. Not to say

873
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 2: that Danny Hurley might not dip his toe in the

874
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: water in the NBA someday there are horses for courses,

875
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: and I'm not so sure this is the right one

876
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 2: for Danny Hurley, but that's for him to decide. And

877
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 2: I've asked. I asked my Friday Night producer, Ian Roddy

878
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: to save the sound bite because I'll play it next

879
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 2: Friday if he accepts a job. When we wake up

880
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 2: tomorrow morning, I'll play it. I'll take my medicine and

881
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 2: I'll give the reasons I said. But I'm sticking that's

882
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 2: my story, Mark, and I'm sticking to it.

883
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean, look, I trust your instincts. You make

884
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 6: phone calls. I make phone calls. It's just it's just

885
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 6: fascinating because I think what the interesting wrinkle with the

886
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,439
Speaker 6: Lakers is that on one hand, you say, okay, this

887
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 6: is the dream jobs of dream jobs, this is the Lakers,

888
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 6: the glamour franchise, or coaching Lebron James. But you know,

889
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 6: once you start reading the five print, there's a lot

890
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 6: of things that make this risky. I mean, we're talking

891
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 6: about Lebron James that is only going to play a

892
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 6: few more seasons. And even though he's delaying, Father Time's

893
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 6: Father Time's going to start throwing some punches soon. Anthony Davis,

894
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 6: he could be the next face to franchise. But even

895
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 6: though he's in healthier last season, who knows how long

896
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 6: it'll sustain. And then the rest of the roster is

897
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 6: very unproven and unpredictable. And then you look at the

898
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 6: front off. They've had some success with good rosters, some

899
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 6: failure with rosters, but the bottom line is they don't

900
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 6: have a lot of patience for head coaches. And so.

901
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, Mark, you really covered a lot of good

902
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 2: ground there. So let's give let's just ever so quickly

903
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 2: contextualize this. I worked for that organization. I was an

904
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 2: intern of that organization. I think the World of Lakers,

905
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 2: I think they are the NBA's premier organization. End of story.

906
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 2: Let's say, you know, the world is a vexing enough

907
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: place without hypotheticals, but let's use one anyway. Let's say

908
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 2: this was two thousand and nine or twenty ten, Doctor

909
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 2: Buss was still alive and Danny Hurley was coming off

910
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 2: back to back championships at Yukon, and Doctor Buss was

911
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 2: looking for the next shiny toy. Yeah, that's a dream job.

912
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 2: Then before lebron gets there, before all this, Bronnie James

913
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: Michigans look, Chuck Daily once told me coaching in the

914
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 2: NBA is like it's it's merely managing an adult daycare center.

915
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 2: This kid is an exquisite teacher. You're teach in college.

916
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 2: You don't teach a lot in the NBA. This is not.

917
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 2: There are horses for courses. This is not. I don't

918
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 2: like any of this, but let's set that aside. And

919
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: I really look forward to having you on next Saturday,

920
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 2: because I think we're gonna have an answer by next Saturday,

921
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 2: and I will stand up and face the music. From

922
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 2: right or wrong, we'll see. But Mark, he wrote some

923
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 2: really good stuff this week on Sports Keda. You talk

924
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 2: to some coaches who look so far, they're looking very

925
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 2: prescient that even with or without Christaps for seeing us,

926
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 2: they really liked Boston to win this series. Your thoughts

927
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 2: take us inside the four walls and some of the

928
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 2: insights these coaches gave you, and the reasons for picking

929
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 2: the Celtics.

930
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 6: Well, there are a lot of them. I think the

931
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 6: main thing is that they feel that even if they

932
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 6: haven't been playing their best basketball in the playoffs, they

933
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 6: are the best team on paper. They have a really

934
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 6: deep starting lineup, they have really good chemistry, they have,

935
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 6: you know, the most continuity based off of the fact

936
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 6: that they've been to so many Eastern Conference finals with

937
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 6: Jason Tatum Jaylen Brown. The other factor was, yeah, they

938
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 6: were awaiting Christoph Porzingis's return. But I think the key

939
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 6: thing is that two out of the three coaches that

940
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 6: talked to assistant coaches, all from different teams outside of

941
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 6: Dallas and Boston, that they felt like the Celics were

942
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 6: going to win with or without Portzingis, but with Porzingis

943
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 6: back they thought that just another added wrinkle because he's

944
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 6: a great four spacer, great passer. I think the third

945
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 6: thing is all of them downplay the idea that Boston

946
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 6: vulnerable because they didn't have a more difficult path in

947
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 6: the East playoffs than Dallas did in the West. They said, well,

948
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 6: you played the teams that are in front of you,

949
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 6: number one, number two, as much as people might want

950
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 6: to say, oh, well, they played teams with the key injuries.

951
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 6: Well so the Celtics they you know, had to miss

952
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 6: ten games without Porzingis that they still won most of them.

953
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 6: So I think for them they just felt like, hey,

954
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 6: there's so much continuity, and well, they're very high on

955
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 6: Dallas and the duo that Luca Dodgicch and Kyrie Ring

956
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 6: had shown and the chemistry as well with the supporting

957
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 6: cast with Derek Lively the second and Daniel Grafford and PJ. Washington.

958
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 6: They just felt like Boston has more time together and

959
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 6: they just have even more depth. So they're predicting Boston

960
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 6: to win in seven games. I think the other interesting

961
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 6: thing is I also talked to some outside medical doctors

962
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 6: about Porzingis, and all of them predicted something drastically different

963
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 6: than what actually happened in Game one. They predicted that

964
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 6: it's going to take time. He would be on a

965
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 6: minute restriction, which he did, but they thought he would

966
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 6: be rusty. I would take some time for him to

967
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 6: get his conditioning up to stuff, and that he went

968
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 6: don't really shoot the ball well, he would just be

969
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 6: good as a four spacer and passer. But Porzingis played

970
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 6: as if he had not missed a game at all

971
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 6: this postseason, which was wild.

972
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 2: So Mark, I've been doing this a long time. I

973
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 2: covered the U four series in Detroit. It was a

974
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 2: ninety seven to one when the Pistons shockingly beat the

975
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 2: Lakers in five. I'm gonna draw a bit of a

976
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 2: parallel because I thought things I never thought i'd see.

977
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 2: I'd like you to respond to these. This is part

978
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 2: of my favorite things we do. This was my observations.

979
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 2: I had no idea Boston had the ability to guard

980
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 2: Dallas this aggressively. Kyrie zero for five from behind the yarch.

981
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 2: He saw, Yeah, Luca had thirty but just one assist.

982
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 2: What do I attribute that to? Boston has tremendous defensive versatility.

983
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: They can throw multiple defenders at Dallas without doubling anybody.

984
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 2: How does Dallas defeat that?

985
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 6: Well, Look, I think that clearly Boston's in the driver's seat,

986
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 6: but I think that it's inevitable that Luca and Kyrie

987
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 6: are going to shoot better game too. And I think

988
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 6: that even though it's the NBA Finals, I'm not going

989
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 6: to say Boston's going to let it scar down as

990
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 6: it did in certain times or in earlier playoff rounds.

991
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 6: But it's not going to be the same intensity as

992
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 6: it was in Game one. But I think to your

993
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 6: broader point, you know, Boston just has so many different

994
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 6: defensive weapons. It started to holiday with how great of

995
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 6: a two way player he is. But you know, as

996
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 6: one assistant coach mentioned to me, is that Dallas isn't

997
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,720
Speaker 6: going to try to allow Drew Holliday to Mark Luca

998
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,240
Speaker 6: or Kyrie. They're going to hunt matchups so that Drew's

999
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 6: off of them. But the reality is they have a

1000
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 6: lot of great versatility with Porzingis and Al Wharfer being

1001
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 6: those stretch fives and really giving them the ability to

1002
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 6: play small ball. I would also say that Jason Tatum

1003
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 6: and Jalen Brown, while yeah, they're mostly known for their scoring,

1004
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 6: they're great defenders as well. So I think that the

1005
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 6: Celtics they have a really good combination of wing and

1006
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 6: defense defenders, and they also have versatile bigs. And that's

1007
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 6: not the same kind of defensive presence that the MAVs

1008
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 6: have because they have more traditional rim protecting centers and

1009
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 6: Derek Wiley the second and Daniel Gafford. But Boston's versatility

1010
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 6: really allows them to be a presence both in the

1011
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 6: back hoard on front court.

1012
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 2: I like the word you use, combination combinations. Boston has

1013
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 2: multiple pick and rule combinations that allows their defenders to

1014
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,280
Speaker 2: stay home. They don't have to help in the paint,

1015
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 2: and they don't give up a lot of open looks.

1016
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be fun to watch. It's a chess match.

1017
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 2: His second observation, obviously, Jason Tatum didn't play well Game one,

1018
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 2: six for sixteen from the you know, he turned the

1019
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 2: ball over six times. It didn't matter. He may not

1020
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 2: even have to play well for them to win because

1021
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 2: they have so many other offensive options. But what if

1022
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 2: Tatum turns it on? What happens then in the Dallas?

1023
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's really tough because I think ideally the

1024
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 6: Celtics are at their best when they're moving the ball,

1025
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 6: They're able to get open threes. They can take advantage

1026
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 6: if Jason Tatum r Jaylen Brown are getting a lot

1027
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 6: of defensive attention because Shrew Holliday and Derek White in

1028
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 6: particular can hit out side shots. Same thing with porzingis,

1029
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 6: same thing without Horford. But I think that to Jason

1030
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 6: Tatum's credit, he can be effective when he's in isolation.

1031
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,760
Speaker 6: It's about hunting the right matchups and so there's nothing

1032
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 6: wrong with him going in isolation if he finds the

1033
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 6: right matchup. And Jason Tatum, ever since the twenty twenty

1034
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 6: two NBA Finals, he's done a really good job at improving,

1035
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 6: you know, his finishing at the basket, gain his mid

1036
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 6: range game back after you know, maybe focusing more on

1037
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 6: getting threes and if you look at his numbers, he's

1038
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 6: been even more efficient as a passer this season. And

1039
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 6: so yeah, if Jason Tatum lights it up, I guess

1040
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 6: ideally that's better than having a balanced offense. But to

1041
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 6: Jason Tatum's credit, he's been able to do it more

1042
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 6: on his terms than the defensive terms.

1043
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 2: I still think this series is going six, maybe even seven.

1044
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 2: But there's one other thing that I think is problematic

1045
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 2: for Dallas. They shot fifteen less threes in Boston in

1046
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 2: Game one. Boston is a prolific three point shooting team.

1047
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 2: In the playoffs this year, when they merely attempt more

1048
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 2: threes than their opponent, they're eleven to one. How does

1049
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 2: Dallas solve that?

1050
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 6: Well, again, Luca and Kyrie have to make shots. But

1051
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 6: I think that, you know, PJ. Washington has to be

1052
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 6: what he's been for most of these playoffs, so that

1053
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,720
Speaker 6: guy that can be the additional scorer. He's really good

1054
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 6: with catch and shoot. He's really good at kind of

1055
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 6: moving off the ball to allow Luca and Kyrie to

1056
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 6: have a little bit more freedom. But it goes back

1057
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 6: to our original point here that Boston has so many

1058
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 6: defenders that they can cover a lot of grounds, and

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Speaker 6: so I think that Dallace will still make this a series.

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00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 6: And you know, all it takes is Luke or Kyrie

1061
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 6: to have a breakout game where it changes the complexion entirely.

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00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 6: But if I had a predict, I think that Boston

1063
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 6: does away with this in six or seven games. So

1064
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 6: it's going to be competitive, but I think ultimately their

1065
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 6: depth will prevail.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Mark, great stuff is always as we say every

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Speaker 2: Saturday night. I can't wait to see what the new

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Speaker 2: cycle brings this week. I'm already looking forward to having

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00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 2: you on next Saturday at My Night. Thanks Mark, thanks

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00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 2: so much, as always been Mark Medina Medina Magic every

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Speaker 2: Saturday night here on the Bernie Frattle Show. He is

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Speaker 2: a Fox Sports Radio nbagou and we do this fifty

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00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,919
Speaker 2: two weeks. Man, after the playoffs are over, We got

1074
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 2: the Draft, we had all kinds of stuff. It just

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00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 2: never ends with the Olympics. Okay, you get the picture

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00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 2: coming up by the way bottom of the hour, I

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00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 2: am going to share with you the player I believe

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00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 2: that is going to hold the fate of this, you know,

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Speaker 2: NBA Finals, but very interesting situation the Yankees. I'm gonna

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00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 2: get to that atbaumb me our very unusual merchandise offering

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00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 2: in Yankee Stadium this weekend as a Dodgers visited town.

1082
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 2: I will share with you what that is. You might

1083
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 2: get a kick out of it. I'm Bernie Fraddle or company.

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Speaker 2: Line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio tirect dot

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Speaker 2: com studios. Keep it locked right here. You're listening to

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00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right

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00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 2: back on the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio. Comedy

1088
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 2: line from the Tarreck dot Com studios here in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Coming at bottom the hour after Martin's update, I'm going

1090
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 2: to dive back into the NBA Finals and I have

1091
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 2: got my sites squarely set on one specific player because

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00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 2: he is truly key and you'll see why coming up.

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00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 2: You know, many many, many, many many years ago, there

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00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 2: was a crazy linebacker out of Oklahoma named Brian Bosworth,

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00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 2: the Boss. He ended up having a cup of coffee

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00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 2: in the NFL. His NFL career was really kind of

1097
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 2: a big disappointment. He played in Seattle and probably his

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00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 2: highlight film as he got housed by Bo Jackson. Once

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Speaker 2: I mean you get the license number that truck, I

1100
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 2: mean he knocked a mass over tea kettle and she

1101
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 2: just was never really an NFL guy. But he was

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00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 2: a great college player. Well, he was pretty much hated

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Speaker 2: in every city he went to, especially Denver. Denver and

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00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 2: Seattle had a real rivalry. So when Denver played Seattle

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00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 2: and Seattle came to town, all of a sudden there

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00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 2: was these I Hate Brian Bosworth t shirts selling in

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00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 2: the parking lots, selling everywhere. He sold about ten thousand

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00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 2: that day. Turns out it was Brian Bosworth who made

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Speaker 2: him pretty clever, right. But the Yankees are offering a similar,

1110
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 2: very unusual merchandise offering. That's the Department of Redomancy department

1111
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 2: at their team store during the Dodgers series. Yes, they're

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Speaker 2: welcoming the Dodgers this weekend. The Dodgers been very rude guests.

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01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 2: They've beat the Yankees twice and it's a major weekend

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Speaker 2: series and hopefully I think it would be cool if

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01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 2: it was an actual preview of the World Series. We'll see.

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01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 2: But what's interesting is if you are or at the

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01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 2: games and you happen to stop in one of the

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01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 2: team's stores around the stadium. Fans are sharing images of

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Speaker 2: a certain jersey that's being sold at Yankee Stadium while

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Speaker 2: the Dodgers in town. You may heard of this guy.

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Speaker 2: His name is Shohio Tani. Interesting. Not only that, but

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01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 2: the team is even selling caps that bear the numbers

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Speaker 2: of both Otani and the Yankee Star Aaron Judge. Now,

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01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 2: it is worth noting fair to note the Yankees have

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01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 2: actually sold Shohio Tani jerseys before when the Angels used

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Speaker 2: to come to town on the years past. And you know,

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01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 2: you could argue, well, wait a minute, this might make

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Speaker 2: some sense. There's no question that plenty of Dodgers fans

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01:00:56,080 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 2: presumably made the trip and they're in attendance. And by

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01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 2: the way, there are probably some people who maybe just

1131
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 2: came to the game to see Shohyo Tani. We'll see.

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01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 2: So whether it's casual fans, whether it's sirius fans, I

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01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 2: don't know who the market is for this, because you

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01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 2: can buy Hoyo tany jersey's about anywhere. But I bet

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Speaker 2: if you are at the Yankees game this weekend against

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Speaker 2: the Dodgers, the truth of the matter is you might

1137
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Speaker 2: have been surprised seeing that jersey in the in the

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01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 2: team store. Maybe they're trying to raise money so that

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01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 2: they can sign Juan Soda next year. Okay, that was

1140
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 2: a joke. Not very funny coming up. What's not a

1141
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 2: joke is this particular players performance not only against Oklahoma

1142
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 2: City but also against Game one versus Boston. Let's go

1143
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 2: back to the NBA Finals coming up. But first our

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01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 2: guy Martin Weiss with the latest.

1145
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 7: The Florida Panthers took Game one of the Stanley Cup

1146
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 7: Final three to nothing. Over ed Muonton Bernie, you were

1147
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 7: just talking about this in baseball to Oscar Hernandez hit

1148
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 7: two home runs, including a grand Slam. Dodgers beat the

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01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 7: Yankees for the second straight night in a row. Aaron

1150
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 7: Judge had two solo home runs himself, but score was

1151
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Speaker 7: eleven to three.

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Speaker 4: Dodgers.

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01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 7: Red's won their seventh straight game, beating the Cubs forty three.

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Speaker 7: Andrew Abbott earns his fifth win on the year. Cincinnati

1155
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 7: improved to thirty two and thirty three. Second in the

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Speaker 7: ANL Central Toronto shut down Oakland seven and nothing. Kevin

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01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 7: Gossman with a complete game win, ten strikeouts for him.

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01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 4: Padres beat the Diamondbacks thirteen.

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Speaker 7: To one, and they have not been nice to arizonas

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01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 7: San Diego's outscored him twenty three to four over the weekend.

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01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 7: Phillys beat them at seven and two in London. Bryce

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Speaker 7: Harper with three hits, including his fifteenth home run. Fifty

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Speaker 7: four thousand people watched the game in London. Philadelphia with

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Speaker 7: a forty five and nineteen record. Guardians won eight to

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Speaker 7: nothing over the Marlins. Cleveland with a three game lead

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01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 7: over the Royals in the Al Central Astros beat Angels

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01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 7: six to one. Astros five games under five hundred thirty

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Speaker 7: and thirty five. Game two of the NBA Finals is

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Speaker 7: Sunday night in Boston.

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Speaker 4: Celtics lead the Mavericks one to nothing in the series.

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Speaker 7: College Baseball Super Regionals North Carolina, Florida State, and in

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Speaker 7: Virginia all advanced Yesterday. Evansville beat number one Tennessee to

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Speaker 7: force a game three later today, Scottie Scheffler leads the

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01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 7: Memorial by four strokes, and US men's soccer lost five

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Speaker 7: to one and an exhibition against Columbia.

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Speaker 4: Bernie back to you.

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Speaker 2: Good, thanks, Martin. So for me, all eyes will be

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01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 2: on Kyrie Irving Sunday night. Clearly this Dallas experiment has

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01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 2: been success. He's played well and he and Luca have

1180
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 2: been so prolific at times. At stan Van Gundy had

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01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 2: the audacity, and I like stan Van Gundy a lot.

1182
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 2: It's a true gentlemen had the audacity to think they

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01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,919
Speaker 2: were the best combo of all time. I don't know, man,

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01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe win a championship or four before

1185
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 2: you start comparing him to some of the other great combos.

1186
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 2: But the point of this matter is Kyrie is a

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01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 2: major part of that combo. And it wasn't that long ago.

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01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 2: Remember the second round series versus the OKSE Thunder. Dallas

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01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 2: still won in six games, but Kyrie averaged just fifteen

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Speaker 2: points and he was held to single digits twice. In

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01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 2: that second round series versus the Thunder, Kyrie scored twelve

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01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 2: points in game one, and they were really, you know,

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01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 2: not impactful points. Here's the kicker. Dallas may have beaten Oksee,

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01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 2: but the Celtics are not oka See. They are too

1195
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 2: powerful offensively. And now that you've got Kristaps porsingis back

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01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 2: in the mix. For Dallas to have a chance to

1197
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 2: win this series, Kyrie's got to put up a lot

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Speaker 2: more than twelve points. It's really that simple. It doesn't mean,

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Speaker 2: Irving has to go out and score fifty in Game two,

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01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 2: and whatever he scores, it's not going to be simple

1201
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 2: because he's human, and the idea that he can just

1202
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 2: simply show up, flip a switch and take over the

1203
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 2: game just because we said he has to. Look, you

1204
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 2: heard Mark Medeena and I talking Boston's defensive versatility in

1205
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 2: the way they can throw players at you in their

1206
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 2: pick and roll combinations. They don't have to double team anybody.

1207
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 2: They are really good defensively. Now. The thunder guard at

1208
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 2: Irving with Jalen Williams, and he also was part of

1209
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 2: a group that sort of switched on Irving a lot

1210
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 2: in the perimeter, and they are all pretty good perimeter defenders. Now,

1211
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 2: the Celtics, they put Drew Holiday on Kyrie Irving, and

1212
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 2: I think most people would agree Drew Holliday is probably

1213
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 2: the best on ball defender in the NBA. And whether

1214
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 2: it's Jaden Suggs or Jade McDaniels or Herb Jones or

1215
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 2: McHale Bridges or anybody, I think Drew Holliday probably gets

1216
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 2: that vote. Okay, Boston has got a star studded roster

1217
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 2: of guys who can switch up on Kyrie Irving anytime

1218
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 2: during the game, and in Game one, Kyrie did find

1219
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 2: himself guarded one on one by Al Horford, who thwarted

1220
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 2: one of his shots, Sam Hauser, who bothered one of

1221
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 2: his shots. Derek White got in his face, and Kyrie

1222
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 2: dribbled off his foot. He even passed the ball straight

1223
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 2: out of bounds. He missed wide open threes too. He

1224
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 2: was zero for five and he missed a bunch of

1225
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 2: pull up jumpers, which are typically usually fairly automatic for Kyrie. Now,

1226
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 2: one of the main issues, if not the main issue,

1227
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 2: is that Boston they made this decision to cover Luka

1228
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 2: Doncic with a single defender. Luca had been eating up

1229
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 2: double teams throughout the playoffs, and he's a very good passer.

1230
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 2: But Boston says, no, we're not going to do that.

1231
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 2: We've got faith in our ability to guard Luca with

1232
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 2: a single defender. Luca had thirty didn't matter. Boston still

1233
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,479
Speaker 2: won by double digits. Luca was guarded with a single

1234
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 2: defender only had one assist. What that did was allowed

1235
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 2: the Celtics and their peripheral defenders to stay home and

1236
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 2: guard guys like Kyrie Irving, who typically has lots of

1237
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 2: opportunities to create when there are defenses that are rotating

1238
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 2: and switching and shifting when they're selling out to double

1239
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 2: team Luka doncic Oh. By the way, Luca was not

1240
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 2: great himself. Yes, he finished with thirty points on twenty

1241
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 2: six shots, but Boston has his point of attack defense,

1242
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 2: which really bothered Luca. As I mentioned, he had a

1243
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 2: Jalen Brown I think picked his pocket at least a

1244
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 2: couple times at mid court at mid court, and it

1245
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 2: took the ball the other way to get points. So

1246
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 2: it will be and Mark Medina brought up a great point,

1247
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 2: don't be surprised if Luca and Kyrie come out hot

1248
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 2: in Game two. But they're gonna have to. They're gonna

1249
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 2: have to because you're with out fat. Boston doesn't have

1250
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 2: to make any adjustments. They'll just keep going what's working.

1251
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 2: And the truth of the matter is if Luca really

1252
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 2: gets hot, then it'll be curious to see it's a

1253
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 2: chess match. Will Dallas or check that, Will Boston send

1254
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 2: their second defender, and then things could loosen up for

1255
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 2: Kyrie Irving, but he's still gonna have to to make

1256
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 2: his shots. But that also is gonna make Irving like

1257
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:29,679
Speaker 2: everybody else not named Luca on the Mavericks to rely

1258
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 2: on what would then be an unsettled defense for Boston

1259
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:38,839
Speaker 2: so they can start to score. Now. Look, Drew Holliday

1260
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 2: joked around, you know you ever noticed the great ones

1261
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 2: are already always humble. It's like, you know, you golf

1262
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 2: of the guy? What's your handicap? I'm not that good,

1263
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 2: he goes out to huge seventy two. Sure, Drew Holiday

1264
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 2: was asked before the playoffs, what's your game plan to

1265
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 2: cover Kyrie Irving? He says, well, I'm gonna pray a lot. Well,

1266
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 2: he must have had his prayers answered because Drew Holiday

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Speaker 2: was out. Okay, look, Boston has so much talent. I

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01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 2: mentioned this to Mark. Jason Tatum only had sixteen points

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Speaker 2: on sixteen shots. I don't know that Dallas will have

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01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 2: the luxury of having Jason Tatum have another bad game

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Speaker 2: like that. But they've already proven they can win by

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Speaker 2: double digits even if he does. I will say this,

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01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 2: I'll make a bold statement. If Luca and Kyrie don't

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Speaker 2: combine for sixty on Sunday night, think about that. Okay,

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Speaker 2: am I talking on my huha baby? But look, I'm

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01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 2: paid to have opinions. This is my opinion. If Luca

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01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 2: and Kyrie don't combine for sixty Sunday night and Boston

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01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 2: stays true to its strategy, I think they go to

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01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 2: Dallas goes down oh two. But that's Luca and Kyrie

1280
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 2: could come out and have seventy. But the Celtics flat

1281
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 2: out dared those two guys to beat them in game one.

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01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,679
Speaker 2: They gave him single cover all night long and Dallas

1283
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 2: could not take advantage of it. And again, the biggest,

1284
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 2: the biggest stat in this game that blows me away

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01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 2: is that Luca had one assist. So it's got to

1286
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:16,879
Speaker 2: be a different story in game two, and it starts

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01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 2: with Kyrie Irving. He's one of two Dallas players who

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01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 2: can basically create offense under any circumstance. He's always proven

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01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 2: he can. He's brilliant, he can create his own shot

1290
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 2: off the drill. You can just do about anything. And

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01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 2: it's not just about jacking up threes and beating your

1292
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 2: guy off the dribble and jacking up threes. Kyrie's got

1293
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 2: to beat the guy in front of him consistency. He's

1294
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 2: also got to get to the paint. He's got to

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01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 2: get to the hole. He's got to draw contact, he's

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01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 2: got to get to the line. And believe me, even

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01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 2: if Irving and Dancic, you know, combined for sixty, I

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01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 2: think you can pencil in Luca for thirty. I think

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01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 2: he's gonna go go nuts. And I think, you know,

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01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 2: Kyrie's certainly capable, but he's the wild card. I'm not

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01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 2: predicting this, but if he lays another egg in game two,

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01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 2: I really believe the mass are going down oh two,

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01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 2: and I would not like to see that. Frankly, I

1304
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 2: would like to see a competitive series. We've only played

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01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 2: two NBA games in what last two weeks, and I

1306
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 2: got my spot marked out, you know on the barka

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01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 2: Lounger sunding that I want to see a good competitive game,

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01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 2: and we are seeing genuine star power. And these both

1309
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 2: teams had the journey, and I mentioned earlier the backstories.

1310
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 2: Porsingis the former Maverick, Kyrie, the former Celtic. This is

1311
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 2: good stuff, man, this is good stuff. We just need

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01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 2: to see the stars show up, most notably Kyrie. Irving.

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01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 2: He's done it before, He's got a two. Look again,

1314
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 2: by the way, I want to remind everybody shortly after

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Speaker 2: the show, the podcast will be going up. Brie will

1316
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 2: be taking care of that. If you missed any of

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Speaker 2: tonight's show, be sure to check out the podcast. Just

1318
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Speaker 2: search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts. Also,

1319
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Speaker 2: be sure to follow, rate and review the podcast. Again,

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Speaker 2: just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: You'll see the show posted right after we get off

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Speaker 2: the air. The multi talented Breed will be handling that

1323
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Speaker 2: for us. Coming up. I told you last Friday night

1324
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Speaker 2: that by Friday, June seventh, the Jake Paul Mike Tyson

1325
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:19,640
Speaker 2: boxing match will be rescheduled. Well it has been. I

1326
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 2: will tell you when it's rescheduled four and why they

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Speaker 2: had to reschedule it in the first place. Hi, Bernie

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Speaker 2: Fridderwork Comedy Live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: tyrack dot com studios. Keep it locked right here. You're

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Speaker 2: listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 2: All right back on the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio.

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01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,440
Speaker 2: Come to you live from me tyrack dot com studios

1333
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas. We're gonna take you up to

1334
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 2: three am Pacific six am Eastern about an hour and

1335
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 2: twelve minutes from now, the dance sensation sweep in the nation.

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01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 2: What kind of brand new fool of you? Followed by

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01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 2: what my name? And of course we've got Martin Weiss

1338
01:12:55,080 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 2: jumping in tonight along with Mark and Bree. You will

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01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 2: not miss this or you'll be first in line for

1340
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 2: a frontal of botomy. All right. So Mike Tyson lives

1341
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:08,679
Speaker 2: here in Vegas. I've interacted with him more than once.

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01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 2: I love the dude. He's an exceedingly bright mans. He

1343
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 2: had a very rough childhood which led to the life

1344
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 2: he began, and anything he ever loved was taken away

1345
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 2: from him, so he became a very, very complicated figure.

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01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 2: But he's fifty eight years old now and he's a

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01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 2: guy who's, I believe, very one of the very interesting

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01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:33,639
Speaker 2: people in the history of Americana. Him and Jake Paul

1349
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 2: are gonna lock horns. They were gonna do it July twentieth.

1350
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 2: There'll be eight two minute rounds. And I know some

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01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 2: people go thought this, I'm not one of them. I've

1352
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 2: trained as a boxer. I've been in the ring. It's

1353
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 2: the most rewarding workout you'll ever have, So I really

1354
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 2: respect anybody will do this, And now I will say this,

1355
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:57,599
Speaker 2: as a society, we've always been infatuated with gladiator sports

1356
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 2: and that's why people will watch it. So be on Netflix.

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01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 2: I think it'll get much bigger numbers than people realize. Well,

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01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 2: it's also have to go July twentyth and basically, Mike

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01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 2: Tyson had a fairly serious medical issue on an airplane recently.

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01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 2: I think it was a couple of weeks ago, right

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01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 2: around maybe because May twenty six he had an ulcer

1362
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 2: flare up on a flight from Miami to Los Angeles

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01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 2: and it required pretty serious medical attention. As a result

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01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 2: of that, Mike Tyson was forced to postpone the fight.

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01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 2: He had a health check up when doctors required him

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01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 2: to limit his training over the next few weeks until

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01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 2: his condition improved and he started he can start to

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01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 2: train the way he wants to train again. I think

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01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 2: he's going to take this very serious. And I think

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01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:46,680
Speaker 2: Jake Paul's going to take this very serious. And I

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01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 2: know people laughed at Jake Paul who won his first

1372
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 2: fight against another YouTuber who thought he was a Joe.

1373
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 2: Then he fought Nke Robinson and then an NBA player

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01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 2: professional athlete. And by the way, he played college football

1375
01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 2: at Washington. Nate's a tough dude man. And they said, oh, well,

1376
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 2: he's not going to anything against a professional athlete. Well,

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01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:06,760
Speaker 2: he put Nate Robinson to sleep. Since then, he's fought

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01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 2: a series of UFC fighters. He put tyro Old Willy

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01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 2: to sleep, beat him twice, beat you know, Ben Askron,

1380
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 2: beat Anderson Silva. And you could say, oh, they're all older,

1381
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 2: all washing, but well, you know what, you get in the

1382
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 2: ring with him and think it's so easy. And then

1383
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 2: he did fight Tyson Fury's brother. That was Tyson Fury's

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01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 2: brother's eighth professional boxing match. And by the way, if

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01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 2: you look at the records of the guys Fury fought,

1386
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:32,640
Speaker 2: they were all tomato cans. One guy he fought at

1387
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 2: like a five and eighty eight record. That never should

1388
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,639
Speaker 2: have been his first match as against the real boxer.

1389
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 2: He should have had some warm ups like Fury did.

1390
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 2: And after the fight, Fury hugged me, says, you know what,

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01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 2: You're not what I thought you were. You're you're you

1392
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 2: are kind of the real deal. If you just started

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01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 2: boxing at six when I was well, you'd have been something.

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01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 2: So this is gonna be a real fight. Okay, it's

1395
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 2: people can knock it, laugh at it all they want.

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01:15:56,680 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 2: I am not one of those people. All right. Now,

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01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:04,959
Speaker 2: here's what's interesting. The fight is going to be at

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01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 2: Jerry Dome at AT and T Stadium in Dallas. And

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01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,520
Speaker 2: it took a you know, it took some real collaboration

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01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 2: to get a new date set for the fight. It's

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01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 2: now going to be November fifteenth, and it'll be it'll

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01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 2: be a it'll be actually a cold main event. There's

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01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 2: actually going to be two females fighting, Katie Taylor and

1404
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 2: Amanda Serrano for the super lightweight championship. That'll be the

1405
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:36,680
Speaker 2: cold main event. But I think Jason, Jake Paul and

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01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson will draw a lot of attention. It's the

1407
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 2: most cross generational sporting event in history because these guys

1408
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:45,719
Speaker 2: are thinking like thirty years apart in age. But Friday,

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01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 2: November fifteenth, I will, well, it'll be on I guess

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01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 2: the final go off probably a couple hours before I

1411
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 2: signed on, so clearly we'll talk about it. Here's what's interesting.

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01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,919
Speaker 2: It has to be on a Friday because the following

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01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 2: Monday there's an NFL Monday Night football game between the

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01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys and the Houston Texans on Monday, November eighteenth,

1415
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 2: Monday Night Football. So the stadium personnel apparently they need

1416
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 2: a good couple of days, three days to set up

1417
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 2: the stadium for the Money Night game on for the Cowboys,

1418
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 2: So they're going to have a little competition. The original

1419
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 2: July date would have been perfect. The NFL season is

1420
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 2: not anywhere near yet. Well it is, but it's not.

1421
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 2: They would have faced very little competition. The NBA Finals

1422
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 2: will have been concluded. College football is still a month out.

1423
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:41,480
Speaker 2: But again, Mike Tyson had this ulcer flare up, and

1424
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 2: you know, they got to work through these things. But

1425
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:46,679
Speaker 2: there's too much money involved. Both guys want this fight.

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01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 2: People are curious about this fight. Mike Tyson issued a

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Speaker 2: statement last week. He said, quote, although we had to

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Speaker 2: postpone the fight, I will resume training shortly. I'm thankful

1429
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 2: to the medical staff that treated me, as well as MVP,

1430
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:01,839
Speaker 2: Netflix and the T and T Stadium for working diligently

1431
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 2: to find the best rescheduled date. While we have a

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01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:06,680
Speaker 2: new date, quote, the result will be the same no

1433
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 2: matter when we fight. Jake Paul is gonna get knocked out,

1434
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 2: and of course Jake Paul wasted no time in saying

1435
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 2: I'm glad to postpone the fight. I don't want any excuses, right,

1436
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 2: So here's twenty seven year old Jake Paul stepping up

1437
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 2: in class I think against fifty eight year old Mike Tyson.

1438
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 2: And again it's the co main event. There will be

1439
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 2: another fight to females for the light heavyweight championship. So

1440
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 2: whether or not you watch it, it will be streamed

1441
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 2: on live on Netflix. It will be sanctioned as a

1442
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 2: professional bout. The results will affect their pro records. It

1443
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 2: will be contested as a heavyweight fight, and it's scheduled

1444
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 2: eight two minute rounds. Yes, I can't lie. I will

1445
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:49,680
Speaker 2: be watching coming up. All want to bring in the crew.

1446
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 2: I want to get their thoughts on Danny Hurley to

1447
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 2: the Lakers, and I'm gonna give you a mine and

1448
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna pull punches. Keep it locked. You're listening

1449
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 2: to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. Well

1450
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 2: that's writ you heard the man. The Bernie Fraddle Show

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Speaker 2: keeps rolling right along. My name is Bernie Fraddle. We

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Speaker 2: NBA Finals Game two is now what twelve fought sixteen

1458
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 2: hours seventeen hours away. Let's put there the long and

1459
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:36,719
Speaker 2: the short of it is, though, after that game was played,

1460
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 2: and I even think before, the attention is going to

1461
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 2: be turned to whether or not Danny Hurley will actually

1462
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 2: become the lakers next head coach. Now, I've got some

1463
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 2: very strong thoughts on this, and I'm going to share

1464
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 2: them in a minute. And it's my understanding, by the way,

1465
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 2: that he's already flown back to Connecticut and I haven't

1466
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 2: confirmed that, but I believe he has. So that means

1467
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 2: neither here nor there whether he's going to ultimately take

1468
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 2: the job. But as you heard me say to Mark Medina,

1469
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 2: I believe it's ten percent that he takes it. I'll

1470
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 2: take my medicine if I'm wrong. But before I get

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Speaker 2: to the reasons why I am saying what I'm saying,

1472
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 2: I want to bring in the crew and get their thoughts.

1473
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 2: They're all right there in the belly of the Beast

1474
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 2: Los Angeles, and I'm sure they have some thoughts. So Martin,

1475
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:24,720
Speaker 2: let's start with.

1476
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 8: You, you know, start anywhere you want thirty thousand feet and

1477
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 8: to send what are your thoughts on Danny Hurley being

1478
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 8: the next Laker coach and do you think he will

1479
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 8: end up being the next Laker coach.

1480
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 4: I think he will not end up being the next

1481
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 4: Laker coach.

1482
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 7: I do think he will end up getting another raise

1483
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 7: from Yukon as his good buddy Adrian Roger Ranowski just

1484
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 7: you know, when he made that statement talking about Danny

1485
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 7: Hurley being the next head coach of the Lakers, I

1486
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:52,759
Speaker 7: think that's a lot of positioning for the contract at Yukon.

1487
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 7: But I also think if he were the next Lakers

1488
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 7: head coach, it would be an abject disaster.

1489
01:20:57,840 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 4: Some of the stories that.

1490
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:01,719
Speaker 7: You hear out of you kind of about Dan Hurley

1491
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 7: don't seem to me the type of thing that would

1492
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 7: work in the pros. Like Donovan Klingon, I believe it

1493
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 7: was Donovan Klington who said that Dan Hurley has to

1494
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 7: make four half pour shots before practice can start, or

1495
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 7: you know, he wears the same suit and underwear and

1496
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 7: shoes and socks.

1497
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 4: Like to me, all of that.

1498
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 7: That workinness works in undergrad but once you get to

1499
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:25,599
Speaker 7: the pros, you know, once you get to that grad

1500
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 7: school level, the higher level, I don't know if it

1501
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 7: works in the same way where the stars are the

1502
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 7: players and not the coach.

1503
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:35,840
Speaker 2: That is so well said, and I'm gonna I'm gonna

1504
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:37,560
Speaker 2: take what you just said there in a minute and

1505
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 2: build upon that the stars are the players and not

1506
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 2: the coach. In the NBA, it's it's cliches, hell, But

1507
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 2: the NBA is a players league, and uh, and college

1508
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 2: is a coaches league. And one other quick thing before

1509
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 2: we get to breathe and mark look, uh, I know

1510
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb has been defending Danny Hurry. He's not a

1511
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 2: crazy man. I don't think he's a crazy man. But

1512
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 2: I've seen him go off on refs and I've seen

1513
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 2: him go off during a game, and I know he's

1514
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 2: got that gear. Okay, he's he's a brilliant teacher. He's

1515
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 2: a chip off his old dad's block. And his record

1516
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 2: is his record in college. You can't deny that he

1517
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 2: did well at Rhode Island too, and he did well

1518
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 2: in high school, so he knows what he's doing. But

1519
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 2: it's a different mentality. There are horses for courses, and

1520
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:29,599
Speaker 2: I don't believe this is the right course for him.

1521
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 2: And I think it's almost inevitable. Here's a guy who

1522
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 2: what he's gonna you know, hypothetically, if he took the job,

1523
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 2: they're gonna lose forty two games next year. How's he

1524
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 2: going to deal with losing forty two games? That's that's

1525
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 2: like reason number fourteen. All right, I'll get to my

1526
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 2: I'll get to my diatribe in a minute. But Bri,

1527
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 2: you are obviously very knowledgeable on sports. What are your

1528
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 2: thoughts on this?

1529
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:52,960
Speaker 1: So?

1530
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 9: I know we always say like NFL is king, but

1531
01:22:56,080 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 9: I think NBA has become king and recycling coaches. I

1532
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:02,719
Speaker 9: mean kind of starting off with like Frank Vogel, Steve Nash,

1533
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 9: Darvin Ham, I mean, all these coaches have kind of

1534
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 9: just been all over the place like and kind of

1535
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 9: like scapegoats, right, So I just think being an NBA

1536
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:13,679
Speaker 9: coach isn't what it used to be, and they don't

1537
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 9: they don't really like have that respect that they would

1538
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 9: have like in years past, and so I just I

1539
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 9: don't think it would be like a good move. I

1540
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 9: think I think, honestly like a JJ Reddick or somebody

1541
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 9: else that would come in and kind of just be

1542
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:30,639
Speaker 9: unfortunately like Lebron's puppet, like you're just kind of there,

1543
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 9: and you know, you wear the cute little sweatsuits and

1544
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 9: the nice ties and and you know whatever, and you're

1545
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:40,720
Speaker 9: just kind of there just to kind of just be there.

1546
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 10: I guess I don't know what else to say.

1547
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 9: You can just kind of you're kind of just managing

1548
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 9: like the practices, but what what's a coach right in

1549
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 9: today's game? You're you're just kind of there. So, like

1550
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 9: I said, I think JJ Reddick would probably be like

1551
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 9: the best your your good face for the organization. And

1552
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 9: I kind of think that makes more so if I

1553
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 9: was Dan Hurley, I would just take the raise and

1554
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:05,599
Speaker 9: just stay in Yukon. Maybe go coach the Knicks in

1555
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 9: five years when Thibodeau has gone through his whole like

1556
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 9: three rosters of the Knicks, and go from there.

1557
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 2: That's another good point. I do think the day will

1558
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 2: come more Danny Hurley will tip his toe, will dip

1559
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 2: his to excuse me in the NBA. I just don't

1560
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 2: think this is the time we'll see my ten percent

1561
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 2: prediction remains. And as far you, JJ Reddick has at

1562
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 2: least played in the NBA, I believe you said, fourteen

1563
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 2: years in the NBA. So he gets that vibe, he

1564
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 2: gets that lifestyle and that goes a long way with players.

1565
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 2: Mark Ramsey, your thoughts.

1566
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 11: Just based on the talk of everybody of what kind

1567
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 11: of side show, clown show the Lakers have become in

1568
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 11: their current state.

1569
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 4: I would say stay away.

1570
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 11: From the Lakers because you're never going to win when

1571
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 11: it comes to being a good coach, and if you

1572
01:24:56,920 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 11: have to worry about what Lebron thinks about your decision,

1573
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 11: and you'll never win.

1574
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 4: And it's all.

1575
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 11: It's it seems like everything is already going to be

1576
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:09,639
Speaker 11: against you when you get there. So stay in college

1577
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:12,560
Speaker 11: and see what other opportunities come along.

1578
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:15,680
Speaker 2: Or stay at your common be the next coach k

1579
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 2: or be the next John Wooden. For Kronam he's going

1580
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 2: for a three peat, all right, So I'm with you,

1581
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 2: all right, So kind of a good amalgam of thoughts

1582
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 2: there across the board. Let me start by saying this,

1583
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 2: I had a great talk with Chuck Daily once, so

1584
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 2: what many of them? My daddy Rich was one of

1585
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 2: the most elegant men you'd ever He dressed good, he

1586
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 2: was He was just a cool dude. Even he admitted

1587
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 2: when he walked into his NBA locker room for the

1588
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 2: first time, they are like, who are you? We don't

1589
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 2: know you, We don't He had to win these guys over.

1590
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 2: Chuck Day told me that coaching an NBA team was

1591
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:51,679
Speaker 2: basically like managing an adult day care center. He didn't

1592
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 2: say it the pejorative, he didn't say it in a

1593
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 2: negative tone. These guys all have a base level of talent.

1594
01:25:56,680 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 2: They're all multi millionaires ten times over, and they're grown

1595
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 2: men with families and kids, and they're professionals, and so

1596
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 2: there's a certain modicum of demeanor that you have to

1597
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:15,320
Speaker 2: show them if you want to get them to play

1598
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 2: hard for you. Does Danny Hurley have that gear? Chuck

1599
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 2: Daily had it in spades, and that's why he went

1600
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 2: to three straight finals with the Pistons and almost repeated.

1601
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 2: I saw Isaiah Thomas score forty two points on one

1602
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 2: leg on a certain Sunday back in nineteen eighty eight,

1603
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:38,519
Speaker 2: and we'll never know would happened if he hadn't gotten hurt.

1604
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 2: But they took the Lakers to seven, and then they

1605
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 2: turned around and beat him in eighty nine and beat

1606
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:49,639
Speaker 2: him in ninety. That was Chuck Daily. Look you heard

1607
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 2: me say this, I'm gonna repeat. It's their horses for courses.

1608
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 2: The NBA is a players league. The college game is

1609
01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 2: a coaches league. Danny Hurley, I do believe is an

1610
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 2: exquisite teacher of the game. He has empathy because he

1611
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 2: struggled in college. Yeah. I think he ended up scoring

1612
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:08,720
Speaker 2: like a thousand points in his career teat Hall, but

1613
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 2: he was never He was always in the shadow his brother,

1614
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 2: Make no mistake now. His father, Bob Early, is a

1615
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 2: legend in New Jersey. Coach won multiple state championships at St. Anthony's.

1616
01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:20,879
Speaker 2: I swore to God listening to this guy talk basketball.

1617
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:23,640
Speaker 2: He's like listening to God talk basketball. I saw a

1618
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:29,639
Speaker 2: this feature once about his career. I can't remember where

1619
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 2: I saw it. It was a long time ago. That actually

1620
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:33,640
Speaker 2: showed have been a practice and he was working in

1621
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 2: one of his shooting guards on how to create a

1622
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 2: shot off the dribble, Move to his left, get his

1623
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 2: hands into the release point, position. If you want to

1624
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 2: repeat success in sports, well, you have to have proper mechanics,

1625
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:51,439
Speaker 2: and that's how you repeat success. And I remember looking

1626
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 2: at this kid and he's got his girl a little bit,

1627
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:56,640
Speaker 2: he's his son. You've now created an additional degree of

1628
01:27:56,680 --> 01:28:00,120
Speaker 2: difficulty by the way you are moving your hands. And

1629
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 2: he picked up this flaw which would have prevented this

1630
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 2: kid from being a great shooter because he wasn't gonna

1631
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 2: be able to repeat success because he had this hot

1632
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 2: hitch and his release pointing. That's the kind of teaching

1633
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 2: that the Hurlees do. I don't think you're gonna do

1634
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:15,719
Speaker 2: that in the NBA. I don't think it's gonna go over. Okay,

1635
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 2: he's already a legend at Yukon. No one has repeated

1636
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 2: since John Wooden did it in the sixties. He's got

1637
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 2: a chance to be mentioned in the same sentence with

1638
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 2: John Wooden. He's got it made in stores Connecticut. They

1639
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:32,800
Speaker 2: love him. He's always preached loyalty. So are you really

1640
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 2: going to take off to Los Angeles the minute they

1641
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 2: come calling with money? And I don't think he's driven

1642
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:42,600
Speaker 2: by money. He's already gonna make fifty million dollars in

1643
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 2: his coaching more than that. So how many you know

1644
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 2: more Hebrew Nationals can he eat? That's number one? Okay.

1645
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 2: The other thing too, is I just mentioned moving to

1646
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 2: Los Angeles. Now, I lived in southern California for a

1647
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:56,640
Speaker 2: lot of my life. I liked it, But people who

1648
01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 2: grow up in Jersey City might not see it that way.

1649
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 2: An entirely different planet. His wife, Andrea, is a Jersey

1650
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:05,799
Speaker 2: City girl. She said she can channel her inner Snookie

1651
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 2: anytime she wants. I don't think she wants to leave.

1652
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:11,640
Speaker 2: They got it made there. Colin Caylers even said you

1653
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 2: can't improve unhappy. They're happy there. I don't think his

1654
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:18,360
Speaker 2: dad wants him to leave. I don't think his wife

1655
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 2: is gonna want him to leave. Now, why is he listening?

1656
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 2: Because that's what you do. You listen. You don't turn

1657
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:25,639
Speaker 2: your nose up at the Lakers. You pay them respect.

1658
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:28,599
Speaker 2: You listen to what they got to say. You never know.

1659
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 2: You just anything can happen. I've always said anything can

1660
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 2: happen in life and in sports. Hell, Bob Buker once

1661
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 2: hit a home run off Sandy Kofax. You get my point.

1662
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 2: But La would be a different planet just living in

1663
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 2: La versus what they're used to. This is a dude

1664
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:49,559
Speaker 2: that's lived his entire life in the Northeast Corridor. I've

1665
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 2: lived in three states, California, Michigan, and now Nevada. They're

1666
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:57,639
Speaker 2: all different. You be careful what you wish for because

1667
01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:00,480
Speaker 2: it might all sound good. Then you get to this Lakers.

1668
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:05,439
Speaker 2: I didn't even mentioned the circus seven coaches. Seven coaches

1669
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 2: since Phil Jackson left. This will now be Lebron's fourth coach.

1670
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 2: If the Lakers were to win, Lebron's getting all the credit.

1671
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 2: If the Lakers were to lose, guess who's getting blamed.

1672
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:21,760
Speaker 2: I think Darvin Ham got screwed. I like Darvinham. He

1673
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:24,759
Speaker 2: was on that four team with the Pistons. Great role player,

1674
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:27,599
Speaker 2: great defender, good dude. I don't know if you wanted

1675
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:29,640
Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook that was forced upon him. He did his

1676
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:31,920
Speaker 2: best to make ice cream out of you know what

1677
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 2: on a horse manure couldn't work. I think Darvin Ham

1678
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 2: was twenty five games over five hundred and got to

1679
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 2: the conference finals last year, and they boomed him out

1680
01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 2: because they said he couldn't call players them. I don't know.

1681
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:44,600
Speaker 2: You get the point. Pick your poison. It's always going

1682
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:47,360
Speaker 2: to be something when the Dutch settles and the honeymoon's over,

1683
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 2: how's it going to work with Danny Hurley? And then

1684
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:52,599
Speaker 2: I haven't even mentioned Brownie. And I got nothing against

1685
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 2: Bronnie James. Every time I've heard him in an interview,

1686
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 2: he seems like a very classy, dignified, respectful young man.

1687
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:02,120
Speaker 2: Loved the dude. I don't think he can play. I

1688
01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 2: don't know. I'm not seeing you can't play basketball, But

1689
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 2: I'm sorry if you average four point eight points a

1690
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 2: game at USC coming off the bench for a team

1691
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:11,280
Speaker 2: that was eight and twelve in conference. He was second

1692
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 2: team All League in high school. Look, he's a good,

1693
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:15,559
Speaker 2: good dude. He's a good kid. But if his name

1694
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 2: was Eddie Gazinski, we're really talking about him being drafted.

1695
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 2: I don't think so. And you're gonna be for You're

1696
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 2: gonna have that Michigan's forced on you, and you've got

1697
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:26,679
Speaker 2: to You've got to develop Bronnie James all the while

1698
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:31,560
Speaker 2: while Lebron is looming. Now, if Lebron left town and

1699
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:34,720
Speaker 2: they were really gonna start a complete rebuild, I might

1700
01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 2: make move my ten percent to twenty percent. I still

1701
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:39,680
Speaker 2: don't think it's a good move. This is this is

1702
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 2: a disaster wait to happen. And it's not because Danny

1703
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:47,600
Speaker 2: Hurley can't coach. But I do believe in this particular

1704
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 2: situation it is not a good fit. And by the way,

1705
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:54,400
Speaker 2: I don't care how good a coach you are, the

1706
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:58,639
Speaker 2: odds are stacked against you when you decide you're gonna

1707
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 2: make the leap from to the NBA. Don't believe me.

1708
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 2: You wait right there. I'm coming back with receipts. I

1709
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 2: will give you some examples. I'm Bernie Fraddle. We're coming

1710
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 2: to your line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio

1711
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 2: Tirerac dot com studios. Keep it locked right here. You're

1712
01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:15,559
Speaker 2: listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

1713
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:19,880
Speaker 2: All right back on the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports

1714
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:22,160
Speaker 2: Radio coming to life from the Tarrack dot Com studios

1715
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas. Coming up in thirty eight minutes

1716
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 2: to dance Sensation Sweep in the Nation. What kind of

1717
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 2: brand new food do you follow? About? What my name?

1718
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:31,920
Speaker 2: But I'm not done on this coaching thing. By the way,

1719
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 2: A couple of good tweets here from Homer nineteen sixty seven,

1720
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:38,880
Speaker 2: Bernie NBA coaches are figureheads today. The days of strong

1721
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 2: coaches who run the team are over. Earlys State Yukon.

1722
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:44,960
Speaker 2: The Lakers are a trash team run by Lebron James.

1723
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:47,560
Speaker 2: A little harsh, but spot to lie, all right, I

1724
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:50,240
Speaker 2: told you I'd bring receipts. So you think you want

1725
01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:52,800
Speaker 2: to jump to the NBA because you had success in college,

1726
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:56,599
Speaker 2: don't tell that to John Beeline. I'm sure Martin remembers

1727
01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:59,320
Speaker 2: when Beeline was at Michigan, did quite a job. Didn't

1728
01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:02,599
Speaker 2: even last a season with the Cleveland Cavaliers. They ran

1729
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:04,719
Speaker 2: him out of town like a run and mule fourteen

1730
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:09,200
Speaker 2: and forty, and it just he said some things he

1731
01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 2: probably shouldn't have said that you can get away with

1732
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 2: in college, but you can't get away with in the NBA.

1733
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:16,599
Speaker 2: It did not work out well for John Bline. How

1734
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 2: about Billy Donovan. Well, Billy Donovan, by the way, was

1735
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:25,720
Speaker 2: the last college coach I believe to repeat. He did

1736
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:30,800
Speaker 2: a Florida. He goes to the Oklahoma City Thunder and

1737
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:33,720
Speaker 2: he's actually got a winning record. He's been there eight

1738
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:37,599
Speaker 2: nine years. He's taken teams to the playoffs. He actually

1739
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 2: was one of the Chicago Bulls and now, of course, but

1740
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:44,599
Speaker 2: he hasn't had very much success there. At the point

1741
01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:47,599
Speaker 2: is just because you won in college doesn't mean you're

1742
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 2: gonna win in the pros. Fred Hoiberg, who did a

1743
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:54,519
Speaker 2: phenomenal job at Iowa State, he goes to the Chicago Bulls.

1744
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:57,519
Speaker 2: He lasted about three hundred games. He was forty games

1745
01:33:57,560 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 2: under for under five four seasons with the Bulls. After

1746
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:06,040
Speaker 2: five great seasons at Iowa State. He did take the

1747
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 2: Bulls to the playoffs once, but there was friction between

1748
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:14,200
Speaker 2: him and Jimmy Butler, and actually Jimmy Butler criticized Hoiberg

1749
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:18,559
Speaker 2: for not coaching the team hard enough. Go figure, maybe

1750
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:23,000
Speaker 2: he thought he wanted to do not be seen as

1751
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:24,679
Speaker 2: too hard of a coach. I don't know, all right.

1752
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:28,040
Speaker 2: Moving on, Brad Stevens, who I think is one of

1753
01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:31,559
Speaker 2: the great basketball minds in all of basketball. They kicked

1754
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:34,320
Speaker 2: him upstairs at the front office. He took Butler to

1755
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 2: back to back games National Championship lost to Duke one year,

1756
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:41,160
Speaker 2: anything lost to Yukon the other year. He's probably the

1757
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:44,720
Speaker 2: most successful example of collegiate to professional pipeline other than

1758
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:47,599
Speaker 2: a name I'm going to invoke in the brand new

1759
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 2: fool what my name in about an hour. But look,

1760
01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:53,559
Speaker 2: he coached the Celtics for eight seasons. He only missed

1761
01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:56,120
Speaker 2: the playoffs once that was his first year there. Took

1762
01:34:56,160 --> 01:34:59,479
Speaker 2: the Celtics to three conference finals routine They finished top

1763
01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 2: five coach the year, but following the twenty one season,

1764
01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:05,840
Speaker 2: the Celtics lost the first round. Stevens decided to move

1765
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:08,800
Speaker 2: into the front office. He became president of Basketball Operations

1766
01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:12,559
Speaker 2: and Danny Ainge stepped down. But even Brad Stevens couldn't

1767
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:16,479
Speaker 2: win in the NBA. There's some other ones that are

1768
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:19,720
Speaker 2: on the bad side of the Ledger Reggie Theis, who

1769
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 2: had a pretty good coaching year coaching tenure at New

1770
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:26,719
Speaker 2: Mexico State, he took a job with the Sacramento Kings.

1771
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 2: He lasted maybe a season and a half tops after

1772
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:35,679
Speaker 2: being a conference champion in New Mexico State. He started

1773
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 2: his second season six and eighteen, and for whatever reason,

1774
01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 2: the Kings decided they were ready to move on from

1775
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened. He's been an assistant coach

1776
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:46,200
Speaker 2: I think for Minnesota, and I think he went back

1777
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 2: to the college ranks. He's at Bethune Cookman now. But

1778
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:52,640
Speaker 2: so these are big time names, Reggie Theis, Brad Stevens,

1779
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:56,400
Speaker 2: Fred Hoiberg, Billy Donovan. Of course, John Beeline might be

1780
01:35:56,400 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 2: the biggest disaster out of all these. Stanford had a

1781
01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:01,680
Speaker 2: coach twenty years ago by the name of Mike Montgomery.

1782
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:07,679
Speaker 2: He had an incredible, a very illustrious college coaching career,

1783
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:10,879
Speaker 2: got to the Final Four in nineteen ninety eight with Stanford,

1784
01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:13,799
Speaker 2: he was Coach of the Year one year in college,

1785
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:16,479
Speaker 2: he was inducted to the College Basketball Hall of Fame.

1786
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:21,960
Speaker 2: But not only was his move to the NBA completely unsuccessful,

1787
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 2: it was a very short lived one. He was thirty

1788
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:26,840
Speaker 2: eight games under five hundred, spent just two seasons with

1789
01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:30,599
Speaker 2: the Golden State Warriors, never won more than thirty four games,

1790
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:35,080
Speaker 2: the roster never checked out, the team never really improved,

1791
01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:37,720
Speaker 2: and Golden State gave him the boot. He went back

1792
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:40,160
Speaker 2: to cal Berkeley and then he ended up retiring about

1793
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:45,480
Speaker 2: ten years ago. How about Leonard Hamilton. Okay, Leonard Hamilton

1794
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:48,960
Speaker 2: has been a fixture at Florida State for twenty two years.

1795
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:51,679
Speaker 2: They haven't had great success recently, but I think he's

1796
01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:54,880
Speaker 2: done a damn good job there. But don't ask him

1797
01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:57,720
Speaker 2: about his time in the NBA. He went to the

1798
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:01,360
Speaker 2: Washington Wizards in two thousand and one, exactly nineteen games

1799
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:06,280
Speaker 2: nineteen and sixty three. He lasted just one season in

1800
01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 2: the NBA after he had great success in college. He

1801
01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:15,720
Speaker 2: had Oklahoma State and Miami. When Leonard Hamilton joined the

1802
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:18,760
Speaker 2: Wizards in two thousand and they managed to only win

1803
01:37:19,160 --> 01:37:22,680
Speaker 2: nineteen games. That were the fewest games the Wizards had

1804
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:25,559
Speaker 2: ever won in their twenty four year history. Of course,

1805
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:28,960
Speaker 2: this year's team got Leonard off the hook. They won

1806
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:32,879
Speaker 2: fifteen games, and of course, as I said, Leonard Hamilton

1807
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:35,680
Speaker 2: has since moved back to the college game, where he's

1808
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 2: been at Florida State since two thousand and two. Now,

1809
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:42,360
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame legend Lon Krueger everywhere he coached in

1810
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:45,760
Speaker 2: college where there was Illinois, Florida, Oklahoma, and UNLV had

1811
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:49,719
Speaker 2: great success. He did spend one season as an assistant

1812
01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:53,400
Speaker 2: coach for the Knicks, but when he jumped to become

1813
01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:56,320
Speaker 2: a head coach for the Atlanta Hawks, he was fifty

1814
01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:58,720
Speaker 2: three games under five hundred in about two and a

1815
01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:03,360
Speaker 2: half years. He was a Hall of Fame legend college coach.

1816
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 2: I believe Lon Kruger is a trivia question. I believe

1817
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 2: he's the only college coach to take four different teams

1818
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:15,439
Speaker 2: in college to the NCAA Tournament UNLB, Oklahoma, I want

1819
01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 2: to say Florida in Illinois. I have to double check that,

1820
01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:23,840
Speaker 2: but regardless, he did it all right. So he spends

1821
01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:26,200
Speaker 2: two and a half season with the Hawks, never had

1822
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 2: winning records. Twenty seven games into his third season, the

1823
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:34,160
Speaker 2: team was eleven and sixteen. He got fired Lon Krueger,

1824
01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame coach Tim Floyd. You remember that name.

1825
01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:41,720
Speaker 2: He was one of the only coaches who actually got

1826
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:45,000
Speaker 2: a second head coaching job in the NBA. Tim Floyd

1827
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:48,000
Speaker 2: was brought in after the Jordan era Bulls were broken up.

1828
01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:52,160
Speaker 2: Now that must have been tough. Didn't go well. After

1829
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:55,240
Speaker 2: having real good success at Iowa State, he only had

1830
01:38:55,320 --> 01:39:00,880
Speaker 2: forty nine wins for the Bulls over four seasons. After

1831
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:04,760
Speaker 2: that unsuccessful jaunt, he found himself as the head coach

1832
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:08,360
Speaker 2: of the Charlotte Hornets. Lasted exactly one season. How can

1833
01:39:08,439 --> 01:39:12,840
Speaker 2: I how can I not give this list without two

1834
01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:17,519
Speaker 2: classic names that I know? You remember John Calipari who

1835
01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 2: just left Kentucky to go to Arkansas, And I think

1836
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:27,320
Speaker 2: most would agree he's had a pretty successful career in college,

1837
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:30,160
Speaker 2: and in nineteen ninety six he decided he'd make the jump.

1838
01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:32,599
Speaker 2: He was a great coach at UMass back in the day,

1839
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:36,400
Speaker 2: jumps to the New Jersey Nets forty games under five

1840
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:38,880
Speaker 2: hundred in just a little over two years, two and

1841
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:43,080
Speaker 2: a half seasons to be exact. Twenty games into his

1842
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:46,160
Speaker 2: third season, the team started three and seventeen. So not

1843
01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:48,880
Speaker 2: only did Calipari go forty games under five hundred with

1844
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:51,200
Speaker 2: the New Jersey Nets, the team got worse every year.

1845
01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:57,120
Speaker 2: Get the picture. Finally, PJ Carlessimo had a solid career

1846
01:39:57,240 --> 01:40:01,280
Speaker 2: at Seaton Hall. Got to the finals to our Martin

1847
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:03,960
Speaker 2: Rembery lost to our Michigan Wolverines in nineteen eighty nine.

1848
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:07,519
Speaker 2: As a head coach at Seaton Hall. Five years later,

1849
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:11,360
Speaker 2: he jumps to the NBA the Portland Trail Blazers. He's

1850
01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 2: actually had multiple head coaching gigs in the NBA. He

1851
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:17,320
Speaker 2: had some success with the Blazers, got to the playoffs,

1852
01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:19,439
Speaker 2: but never got out of the first rounds. He was fired.

1853
01:40:19,680 --> 01:40:22,040
Speaker 2: Then he spent time as a Warriors head coach. The

1854
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:25,640
Speaker 2: most noteworthy thing that happened to PJ. Carlissimo in his

1855
01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:29,080
Speaker 2: tenure with the Warriors, he got choked by Latrell's Spreewell

1856
01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:33,080
Speaker 2: choked him out during practice. Carla Simo was fired, spent

1857
01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:36,000
Speaker 2: time as an assistant, ended up also coaching the super

1858
01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:38,599
Speaker 2: Sonics in the Oklahoma City Founder and the Brooklyn Nets.

1859
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:42,639
Speaker 2: None of them ever worked out. So if those aren't

1860
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:45,360
Speaker 2: enough receipts for you, I don't know what is. I

1861
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:49,479
Speaker 2: would just say this. I would just say this, be

1862
01:40:49,560 --> 01:40:52,400
Speaker 2: careful what you wish for. I'm sticking to my I'm

1863
01:40:52,439 --> 01:40:54,600
Speaker 2: sticking to my prediction and I could be wrong, but

1864
01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:57,880
Speaker 2: I'm sticking to it. I give it ten percent ten

1865
01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:02,759
Speaker 2: percent that Danny Hurley ends up being the Lakers head coach.

1866
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:10,240
Speaker 2: Coming up is the lifetime ban recently of a Potter's

1867
01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:13,559
Speaker 2: infielder by the name of Tukapedo Marcano, following up with

1868
01:41:13,640 --> 01:41:19,360
Speaker 2: Johntay Porter, an indication that the relationship between professional sports

1869
01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:21,600
Speaker 2: and sports betting is a little bit more complicated than

1870
01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:23,600
Speaker 2: we one of thought. I'm gonna share some things with

1871
01:41:23,720 --> 01:41:28,120
Speaker 2: you coming up, but not next our guy Martin Weiss

1872
01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:28,759
Speaker 2: with the latest.

1873
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:33,519
Speaker 7: The Florida Panthers took Game one of the Stanley Cup

1874
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:36,599
Speaker 7: Final three to nothing over the Edmonton Oilers. In baseball,

1875
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:39,559
Speaker 7: t Oscar Hernandez hit two home runs, including a grand slam.

1876
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:41,760
Speaker 7: Dodgers beat the Yankees for the second night in a row.

1877
01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:45,439
Speaker 7: Aaron Judge hit two home runs, but the Yankees lost

1878
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:48,040
Speaker 7: eleven to three. Reds won their seventh straight game, beating

1879
01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:50,519
Speaker 7: the Cubs four to three. Andrew Abbott gets his fifth

1880
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:53,639
Speaker 7: win on the years. Has Natty improved to thirty two

1881
01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:56,679
Speaker 7: and thirty three second in the NL Central. The Toronto

1882
01:41:56,720 --> 01:41:59,240
Speaker 7: Blue Jay shout out the Oakland A's seven and nothing.

1883
01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:02,560
Speaker 7: Kevin Gosman through a complete game with ten strikeouts. Padres

1884
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:06,040
Speaker 7: beat the Diamondbacks to thirteen to one. San Diego outscored

1885
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:09,280
Speaker 7: Arizona twenty three to four in the last two games.

1886
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:11,920
Speaker 7: Phillies beat them Mets sevent to two in London. Bryce

1887
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:14,839
Speaker 7: Harper with three hits, including his fifteenth homer on the season.

1888
01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:18,480
Speaker 7: Fifty four thousand in attendance there. Across the Pond, Philadelphia

1889
01:42:18,479 --> 01:42:22,400
Speaker 7: with a forty five to nineteen record. Guardians won an

1890
01:42:22,479 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 7: eight nothing lead I'm sorry one and eight nothing game

1891
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:27,880
Speaker 7: over the Marlins. Cleveland with a three game lead over

1892
01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:31,000
Speaker 7: the Royals in the AL Central. Astros beat the Angels

1893
01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:33,479
Speaker 7: six to one. Houston five games under five one hundred

1894
01:42:33,479 --> 01:42:36,320
Speaker 7: and thirty and thirty five. Game two of the NBA

1895
01:42:36,360 --> 01:42:39,320
Speaker 7: Finals Sunday night in Boston, Celtics lead the Mavericks one

1896
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:42,120
Speaker 7: to nothing in the series. That one game was one

1897
01:42:42,160 --> 01:42:47,759
Speaker 7: oh seven eighty nine. Boston Collins Baseball Super Regionals North Carolina,

1898
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:51,400
Speaker 7: Florida State, and Virginia all advance. Evansville beat number one

1899
01:42:51,439 --> 01:42:54,719
Speaker 7: seed Tennessee to force a game three. Later today, Scottie

1900
01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:57,840
Speaker 7: Scheffler leads the Memorial by four strokes and US Men's

1901
01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:01,440
Speaker 7: soccer lost eight five to one exhibition and against Columbia.

1902
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Speaker 4: Bernie back to you, all right.

1903
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:06,559
Speaker 2: Good stuff, Martin and Bartin no doubt you heard about

1904
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:08,439
Speaker 2: the John tay Porter situation. Do you ever? Did you

1905
01:43:08,479 --> 01:43:10,400
Speaker 2: guys talk about that on your show at all recently?

1906
01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:12,280
Speaker 4: We did, We did well at the time.

1907
01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:12,599
Speaker 2: Sure.

1908
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Speaker 7: And I also heard about the Tikipeda Mercados as well.

1909
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:17,599
Speaker 7: You know, we talked about that earlier today.

1910
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And and here's the situation that has also rekindled

1911
01:43:23,680 --> 01:43:30,679
Speaker 2: the investigation with respect to John tay Porter. Two more

1912
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:35,880
Speaker 2: people have been I think arrested. We'll get to that

1913
01:43:36,160 --> 01:43:39,720
Speaker 2: in a minute. So let me start by saying this.

1914
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:42,599
Speaker 2: We are now in a situation where this spring, I

1915
01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:47,400
Speaker 2: think has become a sort of reckoning of sorts for

1916
01:43:47,479 --> 01:43:51,320
Speaker 2: the world of sports betting, the sports betting industry. Obviously,

1917
01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:55,680
Speaker 2: it's hitting a real inflection point now and we are

1918
01:43:55,720 --> 01:44:00,120
Speaker 2: finding that this coexistence between legal betting and league operation

1919
01:44:01,600 --> 01:44:06,960
Speaker 2: is popular. It's immensely popular. But there are real challenges now.

1920
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Speaker 2: And I was just in Detroit last week. I talked

1921
01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:11,360
Speaker 2: to my old crony's doing stats for the Lions, and

1922
01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:14,599
Speaker 2: they told me how draconin the NFL is in terms

1923
01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:16,880
Speaker 2: of cracking down on guys betting and so on and

1924
01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:21,760
Speaker 2: so forth. So the enforcement is there, the checkpoints, you're there,

1925
01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:25,160
Speaker 2: the checks and balancers are there, but people keep stepping

1926
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Speaker 2: out of line, and it's baffling to me. Just this

1927
01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:33,800
Speaker 2: past week Tuesday, Major League Baseball suspended five players for

1928
01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:38,200
Speaker 2: betting on baseball, including the lifetime bad on potters infielder

1929
01:44:38,200 --> 01:44:42,679
Speaker 2: took a Pet Marsano, who Martin just mentioned. Because each

1930
01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:47,240
Speaker 2: one of these knuckleheads we're wagering on Major League Baseball games,

1931
01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:51,599
Speaker 2: which is a complete blatant violation of league rules. How

1932
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:55,920
Speaker 2: stupid do you have to be? They've had symposium after symposium,

1933
01:44:56,200 --> 01:45:02,479
Speaker 2: warning after warning, written policies. I mean, if you don't

1934
01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:05,240
Speaker 2: know by now that they don't want you betting on

1935
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:07,720
Speaker 2: your own sport, then there's no help for you. In

1936
01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:10,880
Speaker 2: the NFL, they don't want you betting on anything, but

1937
01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:13,920
Speaker 2: baseball is a little bit more liberal in the sense

1938
01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:15,840
Speaker 2: that you know, you want to bet on a hockey game, okay,

1939
01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:20,479
Speaker 2: but just don't bet on baseball. So what happened this

1940
01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:24,000
Speaker 2: past week in Major League Baseball followed a similar lifetime

1941
01:45:24,040 --> 01:45:28,599
Speaker 2: suspension levied by the NBA on John ty Porter, who's

1942
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:33,679
Speaker 2: a center for the Toronto Raptors. And let's not forget

1943
01:45:33,680 --> 01:45:35,840
Speaker 2: we're not that far removed on federal bank and tax

1944
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:39,840
Speaker 2: raw charges on Ipe Mizzerhara, the former interpreter for the

1945
01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:43,240
Speaker 2: Dodgers pitcher sho Heil tany or Dodgers show heal tiny.

1946
01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:44,880
Speaker 2: He's not pitching this year. Okay, you get the point.

1947
01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:48,320
Speaker 2: All of these incidents have happened in the last sixty

1948
01:45:48,360 --> 01:45:53,120
Speaker 2: to ninety days. We have it's fair to say a

1949
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:57,439
Speaker 2: very uneasy relationship between legal sports betting, which is growing,

1950
01:45:57,479 --> 01:45:59,840
Speaker 2: and leaves and bouncers now thirty eight states where it's legal,

1951
01:46:00,439 --> 01:46:05,640
Speaker 2: and leagues working to maintain the competitive optics and integrity

1952
01:46:05,720 --> 01:46:08,000
Speaker 2: because let's face it, no one wants to see a

1953
01:46:08,040 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 2: nineteen nineteen Black Sox scandal AG. And I will tell

1954
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:14,599
Speaker 2: you sports are definitely afraid of any of the four

1955
01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:18,240
Speaker 2: majors becoming anything that would resemble WWE. You get my point,

1956
01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:22,960
Speaker 2: all right? Sports betting overall, make no mistake, it is

1957
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:31,120
Speaker 2: soaring to unprecedented heights. Period. There are record levels of revenue.

1958
01:46:31,640 --> 01:46:34,559
Speaker 2: The total handle in twenty twenty three was the highest ever.

1959
01:46:34,720 --> 01:46:37,640
Speaker 2: We're going to exceed that by quite a bit in

1960
01:46:37,640 --> 01:46:43,759
Speaker 2: twenty four. Every major sports league, including Major League Baseball,

1961
01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:49,520
Speaker 2: they've built an extensive portfolio of gambling and related business relationships.

1962
01:46:49,560 --> 01:46:54,240
Speaker 2: It's a battering ram. It's part of advertising. So obviously

1963
01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:58,400
Speaker 2: it's aroused the anger and emotion, with some fans calling

1964
01:46:58,600 --> 01:47:02,679
Speaker 2: that this is big time hypocrisy, because what those leagues

1965
01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:06,360
Speaker 2: are trying to do is, you know, create a line

1966
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:09,479
Speaker 2: of demarcation between what is and what isn't permissible for

1967
01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:12,200
Speaker 2: players because it's about optics. You see where they're going

1968
01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:14,280
Speaker 2: with that. A lot of fans are like, well, hey,

1969
01:47:14,439 --> 01:47:17,599
Speaker 2: if you're benefiting from sports betting, why can't your players

1970
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:20,360
Speaker 2: do it well? We've already explained why. And if you

1971
01:47:20,360 --> 01:47:22,680
Speaker 2: don't like, you know, if it means that much, do

1972
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:25,400
Speaker 2: you quit the game? And I'm one of those people.

1973
01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:28,040
Speaker 2: If Pete Rose lives here in Las Vegas after thirty

1974
01:47:28,040 --> 01:47:30,559
Speaker 2: five years he was banned in nineteen eighty nine by

1975
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:33,519
Speaker 2: a p rg Amati, I no longer thinks it serves

1976
01:47:33,520 --> 01:47:37,320
Speaker 2: any fruitful purpose to ban Pete Rose. He served his penance.

1977
01:47:38,439 --> 01:47:40,960
Speaker 2: Let the people decide, get him on the ballots, see

1978
01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:41,960
Speaker 2: if he should be in the Hall of fam You

1979
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:44,840
Speaker 2: don't want him work in baseball anymore? Fine, but most

1980
01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:50,240
Speaker 2: of his is my understanding. His baseball exploits predated his

1981
01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:53,760
Speaker 2: betting situation, So story for a different day. But it

1982
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:57,599
Speaker 2: does seem to be a little a little hypocritical, okay.

1983
01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:00,640
Speaker 2: And I think there are a lot of people that

1984
01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:03,000
Speaker 2: have been about this that they believe it sort of

1985
01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:07,679
Speaker 2: sacrifices some of people's stile rights. But Rob Manfred's spoken

1986
01:48:07,720 --> 01:48:11,280
Speaker 2: on this. He says, here's Rob Manfriend's quote. We have

1987
01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:13,880
Speaker 2: been clear that the privilege of playing in baseball comes

1988
01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:17,479
Speaker 2: with a responsibility to refrain from engaging in certain types

1989
01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:21,280
Speaker 2: of behavior that are legal for other people. Fine by me,

1990
01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:26,880
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball, though, has learned that a lot of

1991
01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:32,320
Speaker 2: wagering activities are are now starting to center around certain

1992
01:48:33,240 --> 01:48:38,679
Speaker 2: sportsbook operators. But they're legal. All right. Here's here's the problem,

1993
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:41,439
Speaker 2: and this is this is really, frankly a tragedy because

1994
01:48:42,360 --> 01:48:44,200
Speaker 2: you dream of being in the major league your whole

1995
01:48:44,240 --> 01:48:47,479
Speaker 2: life and then you you get there and now you're

1996
01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:51,280
Speaker 2: banned because you damage or you throw away your your

1997
01:48:51,320 --> 01:48:56,800
Speaker 2: your career just to gamble. And the irony is is

1998
01:48:56,800 --> 01:49:00,599
Speaker 2: this poor son of a gun to kipedo mars. It's

1999
01:49:00,640 --> 01:49:02,920
Speaker 2: been reported that they placed over two hundred and thirty

2000
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:07,680
Speaker 2: one wagers and won like four percent of them that

2001
01:49:07,840 --> 01:49:10,559
Speaker 2: liked it's insult to injury man. I mean that's like,

2002
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:13,479
Speaker 2: that's like winning the power Ball walking on front and

2003
01:49:13,479 --> 01:49:16,080
Speaker 2: getting struck by lightning. It's not a good day for you. Right.

2004
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:20,519
Speaker 2: So Marcano bet apparently more than one hundred and fifty

2005
01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:24,080
Speaker 2: thousand dollars baseball an average of about four hundred dollars

2006
01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:28,160
Speaker 2: a bet. Lost ninety six percent of his games bet

2007
01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 2: partly he's like a knucklehead. He bet games involving the

2008
01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:35,160
Speaker 2: Pirates while he was playing for the Pirates, his former team,

2009
01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:37,360
Speaker 2: and there was also a minor league pitcher for the

2010
01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:39,559
Speaker 2: Potters by the name of Jay Groom. He suspended for

2011
01:49:39,560 --> 01:49:42,240
Speaker 2: a year. He bet about four hundred and fifty dollars

2012
01:49:42,280 --> 01:49:45,280
Speaker 2: on Major League Baseball games and posted losses of four

2013
01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:48,920
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty dollars, and apparently of the thirty two

2014
01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:51,960
Speaker 2: bets he made, he only won two of them. So

2015
01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:54,160
Speaker 2: now one of these guys are breaking the rules by

2016
01:49:54,160 --> 01:49:59,559
Speaker 2: betting and jeopardizing their livelihood severely. They pretty much suck

2017
01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:03,759
Speaker 2: at it. Not a good parlay upon intended. There's also

2018
01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:07,919
Speaker 2: a minor league pitcher for the Diamondbacks named Andrew Soufrank

2019
01:50:07,960 --> 01:50:11,519
Speaker 2: who's also suspended for a year. He only bet four

2020
01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:14,040
Speaker 2: hundred dollars on games, but lost two hundred and seventy two.

2021
01:50:14,920 --> 01:50:20,160
Speaker 2: He made five. Check that he made twenty eight wagers

2022
01:50:19,720 --> 01:50:23,880
Speaker 2: on Major League Baseball games, won five. So if you're

2023
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:27,240
Speaker 2: only betting, if your total handles four hundred and forty bucks,

2024
01:50:27,560 --> 01:50:29,439
Speaker 2: you bet twenty eight games, you've been like fifteen bucks

2025
01:50:29,479 --> 01:50:34,559
Speaker 2: a game. Really is anybody check what the minimum salary

2026
01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:36,160
Speaker 2: is for a major league pitcher these days or a

2027
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:38,840
Speaker 2: major league player. Another pitcher for the Oakland a is

2028
01:50:38,880 --> 01:50:42,519
Speaker 2: Michael Kelly. He also received a year long suspension for

2029
01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:47,439
Speaker 2: conduct involving ninety nine dollars with the bets involving major

2030
01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:52,360
Speaker 2: League baseball games. All Right, at the end of the day,

2031
01:50:54,479 --> 01:51:00,000
Speaker 2: the kind of stupidity we're talking about here is really

2032
01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:03,240
Speaker 2: an issue because you're talking about minuscule amounts, guys that

2033
01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:07,440
Speaker 2: don't know how to bet, and they're jeopardizing their career. Now, Marsiano,

2034
01:51:07,920 --> 01:51:10,760
Speaker 2: it's minunderstanding. Is the first Major leaguer to receive a

2035
01:51:10,760 --> 01:51:14,519
Speaker 2: permanent ban from gambling since Pete Rose agreed to that

2036
01:51:14,560 --> 01:51:18,040
Speaker 2: similar penalty in nineteen eighty nine, when it was alleged

2037
01:51:18,040 --> 01:51:20,639
Speaker 2: that he bet games as a Reds player manager from

2038
01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:25,040
Speaker 2: eighty five to eighty seven. All right again, Rob Manfred

2039
01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:28,080
Speaker 2: weighed in with a quote. He said, quote the long

2040
01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:31,519
Speaker 2: standing prohibition against betting on Major League Baseball games by

2041
01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:34,439
Speaker 2: those in the sport has been a bedrock principle for

2042
01:51:34,479 --> 01:51:37,720
Speaker 2: over a century. End quote. Which is true. If you've

2043
01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:42,280
Speaker 2: ever set foot in a major league clubhouse, it's there

2044
01:51:42,439 --> 01:51:46,160
Speaker 2: in black and white for the whole world to see.

2045
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:51,920
Speaker 2: You don't bet on major League baseball, by the way,

2046
01:51:51,960 --> 01:51:54,519
Speaker 2: not for nothing, Miss O'Hara, ippy remember him. He pleaded

2047
01:51:54,520 --> 01:51:57,479
Speaker 2: guilty Tuesday to the federal charges, faces up to thirty

2048
01:51:57,520 --> 01:52:00,320
Speaker 2: three years in prison. Also has to pay restitution to

2049
01:52:00,720 --> 01:52:05,439
Speaker 2: Shoho Tani and the irs. His is a sentencing. It

2050
01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:12,559
Speaker 2: a sentencing is scheduled for October twenty fifth. But we're

2051
01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:16,759
Speaker 2: not done. We talked about John tay Porter with Martin.

2052
01:52:17,240 --> 01:52:20,320
Speaker 2: Two more have been charged in that betting scandal, and

2053
01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:22,439
Speaker 2: I'll bring you up to date on that, because these

2054
01:52:22,479 --> 01:52:25,880
Speaker 2: are real stories involving real people and the times we're

2055
01:52:25,880 --> 01:52:30,400
Speaker 2: living in. That again involve legalized sports betting in thirty

2056
01:52:30,439 --> 01:52:35,960
Speaker 2: eight states, but not if you are playing your sport. Now,

2057
01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:38,400
Speaker 2: would I tell you what's going on in this John

2058
01:52:38,439 --> 01:52:41,439
Speaker 2: tay Porter thing? It might, it might give you a shivers,

2059
01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:45,599
Speaker 2: because this is far more serious. By the way, shortly

2060
01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:48,360
Speaker 2: after my show tonight, our podcast will be going up

2061
01:52:48,439 --> 01:52:50,519
Speaker 2: or you will be taking care of that. If you

2062
01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:52,559
Speaker 2: missed any of tonight's show, be sure to check out

2063
01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:56,760
Speaker 2: the podcast. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get

2064
01:52:56,800 --> 01:53:00,000
Speaker 2: your podcasts. Be sure to also follow rate review the podcast.

2065
01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:03,519
Speaker 2: Asked again, just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get

2066
01:53:03,560 --> 01:53:06,680
Speaker 2: your podcasts. You'll see the show posted right after we

2067
01:53:06,720 --> 01:53:09,599
Speaker 2: get off the air again, Breed will be taking care

2068
01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:13,639
Speaker 2: of that coming up we continue. Two more men charged

2069
01:53:13,680 --> 01:53:17,800
Speaker 2: Thursday in the sports betting scandal that basically cost John

2070
01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:20,639
Speaker 2: tay Porter his job for life with the Toronto Raptors.

2071
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:22,800
Speaker 2: H'm Bernie Frattle. We're coming to your life from the

2072
01:53:22,840 --> 01:53:25,320
Speaker 2: Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Tirack dot Com studios. Keep

2073
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Speaker 2: it locked right here. You're listening to the Bernie Frattle

2074
01:53:27,439 --> 01:53:54,680
Speaker 2: Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right, back on the

2075
01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:57,120
Speaker 2: Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio, coming to live from

2076
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Speaker 2: the Tarrat dot Com studios here in a Lot Vegas,

2077
01:54:01,360 --> 01:54:05,000
Speaker 2: eleven minutes away. Top of the hour. The dance sensation

2078
01:54:05,120 --> 01:54:06,960
Speaker 2: sweeping the nation. What kind of brand new fool of you?

2079
01:54:07,520 --> 01:54:09,559
Speaker 2: Followed by what my name? We got bre Tonight, we

2080
01:54:09,640 --> 01:54:13,559
Speaker 2: got Martin Weiss Tonight, we got Mark Tonight, Mark Ramsey.

2081
01:54:14,760 --> 01:54:20,040
Speaker 2: All right back to John tay Porter. This is how

2082
01:54:20,080 --> 01:54:24,040
Speaker 2: crazy these things can go. His lawyer has now shared

2083
01:54:24,280 --> 01:54:26,800
Speaker 2: the following thought that he was basically in over his

2084
01:54:26,800 --> 01:54:30,960
Speaker 2: head because of addiction gambling, and this scandal has now

2085
01:54:31,040 --> 01:54:38,160
Speaker 2: involved multiple people, and the core complaint accuses a gentleman

2086
01:54:38,200 --> 01:54:40,480
Speaker 2: by the name of Amar. I don't know. I'm not

2087
01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:41,960
Speaker 2: going to pronounce his name. I can't. It's one of

2088
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:48,160
Speaker 2: those tough names to pronounce, and he had pressed an

2089
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:52,480
Speaker 2: NBA player identified as Player one to quote take care

2090
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:56,600
Speaker 2: of gambling debts by leaving games early, which would guarantee

2091
01:54:56,600 --> 01:54:59,680
Speaker 2: payouts for those who bet on this player, John tay Porter,

2092
01:54:59,720 --> 01:55:01,960
Speaker 2: to to perform in those games. For instance, let me

2093
01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:04,640
Speaker 2: give an example. Let's say you wanted to better prop bet.

2094
01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:07,040
Speaker 2: You know what a prop bet is. It's a side bet,

2095
01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:09,400
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with the outcome of the game.

2096
01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:11,720
Speaker 2: But it could be something along the lines of, let's

2097
01:55:11,720 --> 01:55:14,560
Speaker 2: say you were betting on John tay Porter to make

2098
01:55:15,120 --> 01:55:20,400
Speaker 2: three or more three pointers in the game, and if

2099
01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:24,400
Speaker 2: he hits, if he hits the under, you collect money

2100
01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:27,880
Speaker 2: you bet the under. So johntay Porter would would perhaps

2101
01:55:28,520 --> 01:55:30,920
Speaker 2: I'm giving examples of how this worked. This isn't a

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01:55:31,000 --> 01:55:35,360
Speaker 2: specific case, but example, he leaves the game early before

2103
01:55:35,360 --> 01:55:37,360
Speaker 2: he gets that third three pointer and guess what, you

2104
01:55:37,400 --> 01:55:42,360
Speaker 2: collect the money. So the defendants to do this for

2105
01:55:42,520 --> 01:55:45,600
Speaker 2: charge with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and they have

2106
01:55:45,600 --> 01:55:50,240
Speaker 2: an interplay. Interplease yet, But the NBA's investigation found that

2107
01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:54,440
Speaker 2: johntay Porter purposely limited his participation in the game on

2108
01:55:54,520 --> 01:55:58,960
Speaker 2: March twentieth, between the Raptors and the Sacramento Kings, specifically

2109
01:55:59,240 --> 01:56:02,880
Speaker 2: to quote, influenced the outcome of one or more bets.

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01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:07,000
Speaker 2: In his performance against the Brooklyn Nets, Porter claimed he

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01:56:07,080 --> 01:56:11,320
Speaker 2: felt ill after playing just three minutes. The NBA also

2112
01:56:11,360 --> 01:56:14,320
Speaker 2: found out that prior to the game, John Tay Porter

2113
01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:17,840
Speaker 2: has closed confidential information about his health status to an

2114
01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:21,240
Speaker 2: individual he knew to be an NBA better and a

2115
01:56:21,320 --> 01:56:26,640
Speaker 2: different individual associated this situation with Porter also bet that

2116
01:56:26,680 --> 01:56:29,000
Speaker 2: Porter would underperform in March twentieth. That's part of an

2117
01:56:29,040 --> 01:56:32,960
Speaker 2: eighty thousand dollars parlay the Better Place with an online

2118
01:56:32,960 --> 01:56:36,880
Speaker 2: sports book. It also turns out that from January through

2119
01:56:36,880 --> 01:56:39,320
Speaker 2: March to twenty twenty four, while traveling with the Raptors

2120
01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:44,040
Speaker 2: and their G League team, John Ty Porter himself also

2121
01:56:44,200 --> 01:56:50,000
Speaker 2: placed thirteen bets on NBA games using someone else's betting accounts. Now,

2122
01:56:50,040 --> 01:56:54,640
Speaker 2: those bets ranged from as small as fifteen grand to

2123
01:56:55,080 --> 01:56:57,840
Speaker 2: well that's not small to twenty two grand, and the

2124
01:56:57,920 --> 01:57:01,480
Speaker 2: total payouts on those bets was seventy seven. He netted

2125
01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:04,320
Speaker 2: twenty one thousand dollars in winnings. See you see the

2126
01:57:04,360 --> 01:57:07,720
Speaker 2: fix was in So now this is get it out

2127
01:57:07,760 --> 01:57:11,040
Speaker 2: of control completely and two more have been charged in

2128
01:57:11,080 --> 01:57:14,960
Speaker 2: his betting scandal. Two more men were charged Thursday in

2129
01:57:15,040 --> 01:57:18,960
Speaker 2: this betting scandal that has essentially cost NBA player John

2130
01:57:19,000 --> 01:57:23,400
Speaker 2: tay Porter his career. And I could give you the names.

2131
01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:26,000
Speaker 2: What they're meaningless their defendants in federal court now as

2132
01:57:26,000 --> 01:57:28,760
Speaker 2: part of a wire fraud case. But what they did

2133
01:57:28,920 --> 01:57:35,200
Speaker 2: was they used an NBA player and used inside information

2134
01:57:37,120 --> 01:57:41,080
Speaker 2: having to do with prop bets, apparently that he could control,

2135
01:57:41,680 --> 01:57:43,720
Speaker 2: meaning you know, you might bet the over unders he's

2136
01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:46,120
Speaker 2: the over under fifteen points. He checks out of the

2137
01:57:46,120 --> 01:57:48,480
Speaker 2: game because he's sick before he gets to his fifteen points.

2138
01:57:48,840 --> 01:57:52,400
Speaker 2: The fix is in. The Kobayashi mero is in. You

2139
01:57:52,440 --> 01:57:56,240
Speaker 2: know darn well that that's not going to fly. This

2140
01:57:56,320 --> 01:57:59,840
Speaker 2: is very serious business. And these guys won. And when

2141
01:57:59,840 --> 01:58:03,080
Speaker 2: they did, apparently a gentleman with the last name of

2142
01:58:03,160 --> 01:58:06,280
Speaker 2: Moa in this March twentieth game. I've just mentioned this,

2143
01:58:06,280 --> 01:58:12,000
Speaker 2: this betting conspiracy, this betting group netted over one point

2144
01:58:12,080 --> 01:58:15,720
Speaker 2: three million dollars according to the complaint, and apparently some

2145
01:58:15,760 --> 01:58:18,160
Speaker 2: of the other players who got the information got percentage

2146
01:58:18,200 --> 01:58:21,640
Speaker 2: of the cuts. And this was not a small amount

2147
01:58:21,680 --> 01:58:24,280
Speaker 2: of money. So these guys are you know, they're all

2148
01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:27,400
Speaker 2: out on bond. I think they're arrangements for Tuesday. But

2149
01:58:28,120 --> 01:58:30,920
Speaker 2: it all happened because player one, which I believe they

2150
01:58:31,200 --> 01:58:34,600
Speaker 2: are referring to, Jontay Porter quote a mass significant gambling

2151
01:58:34,720 --> 01:58:38,480
Speaker 2: debts and he needed to clear his obligations by doing

2152
01:58:38,520 --> 01:58:41,640
Speaker 2: special favors for these players. That's how serious this is,

2153
01:58:41,680 --> 01:58:45,040
Speaker 2: and that's why people are watching it. Coming up? What

2154
01:58:45,120 --> 01:58:46,720
Speaker 2: kind of brand new fool do you? Followed by? What

2155
01:58:46,840 --> 01:58:49,160
Speaker 2: my name? Keep it? Locke listening to the Bernie Frattle

2156
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Speaker 2: Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: come to that juncture in the show. You know what

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01:59:30,360 --> 01:59:32,520
Speaker 2: you love it. You can't lay without it. Because see

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01:59:32,560 --> 01:59:34,680
Speaker 2: what we do here on this show is we observe

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01:59:34,800 --> 01:59:36,720
Speaker 2: little Yogi Berra once said, you can observe a lot

2172
01:59:36,760 --> 01:59:39,720
Speaker 2: by watching, and we do see because every day around

2173
01:59:39,720 --> 01:59:41,640
Speaker 2: this great country of ours, from Seed to Oily Sea,

2174
01:59:41,680 --> 01:59:43,880
Speaker 2: and around the world, people do things. The engage in

2175
01:59:43,960 --> 01:59:48,800
Speaker 2: activities that are questionable that cause you to look at scams. Now,

2176
01:59:48,880 --> 01:59:54,160
Speaker 2: sometimes they're relatively innocuous. Other times they are far more

2177
01:59:54,200 --> 01:59:58,080
Speaker 2: serious that can lead to arrests and jail in prison

2178
01:59:58,160 --> 02:00:01,440
Speaker 2: and all kind of bad stuff. But regardless of what

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02:00:01,480 --> 02:00:04,240
Speaker 2: the event is, regardless of what the activity is, regardless

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02:00:04,240 --> 02:00:07,200
Speaker 2: of what the behavior is, no matter what these things are,

2181
02:00:07,880 --> 02:00:11,440
Speaker 2: they always leave us scratching our head and asking ourselves,

2182
02:00:11,720 --> 02:00:13,320
Speaker 2: what kind of brand new fool are you?

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02:00:19,880 --> 02:00:19,960
Speaker 9: So?

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02:00:20,400 --> 02:00:23,680
Speaker 1: What kind of brand new fool are you?

2185
02:00:23,920 --> 02:00:26,240
Speaker 2: This one's a beauty, Well, they all are, but this

2186
02:00:26,280 --> 02:00:30,360
Speaker 2: one is actually really got a couple of twists and

2187
02:00:30,360 --> 02:00:35,920
Speaker 2: turns that are crazy. We take you to Yakima, Washington,

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02:00:36,800 --> 02:00:39,280
Speaker 2: and we introduce you to a thirty year old gentleman

2189
02:00:39,320 --> 02:00:43,440
Speaker 2: by the name of David Sharp. Now, David Sharp happened

2190
02:00:43,440 --> 02:00:46,760
Speaker 2: to be driving around one night, and it was late

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02:00:46,800 --> 02:00:50,800
Speaker 2: in the evening and probably about two am in his

2192
02:00:50,920 --> 02:00:54,440
Speaker 2: flatbed pickup, and he decided he was hungry. You want

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02:00:54,480 --> 02:00:56,440
Speaker 2: to looking for a little nash. I don't know, maybe

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02:00:56,440 --> 02:00:59,720
Speaker 2: he'd been yeah, maybe he'd had a few few to

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02:00:59,880 --> 02:01:02,920
Speaker 2: me and he creamed a mints, or maybe he'd been

2196
02:01:03,920 --> 02:01:06,600
Speaker 2: smoking the sticky icky, whatever the hell the case may be.

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02:01:06,800 --> 02:01:10,800
Speaker 2: He was looking for some food and Taco Bell was

2198
02:01:10,840 --> 02:01:13,600
Speaker 2: his fancy. So he pulled up to a Taco Bell

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Speaker 2: in Yakima, Washington, and it was right around two am,

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Speaker 2: and one of the employees had to break the news

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02:01:21,960 --> 02:01:27,040
Speaker 2: to mister Sharp that they had just closed, so mister

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02:01:27,080 --> 02:01:29,320
Speaker 2: Sharp was not going to get his chiloop or whatever

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02:01:29,360 --> 02:01:32,560
Speaker 2: the hell he wanted right Well, this is where the

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02:01:32,600 --> 02:01:37,720
Speaker 2: story gets fun. As it were, the employee says that quote,

2205
02:01:37,720 --> 02:01:41,880
Speaker 2: the driver of this flatbag truck became immensely upset, saying

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02:01:41,920 --> 02:01:44,680
Speaker 2: that he would break their windows if they didn't serve

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02:01:44,760 --> 02:01:47,480
Speaker 2: him food. Then he began pounding on the front doors

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02:01:47,480 --> 02:01:49,320
Speaker 2: of the restaurant saying he was going to break in.

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Speaker 2: Finally he left. Well they thought maybe that was the

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02:01:53,760 --> 02:01:57,600
Speaker 2: end of it, but guess what. A few minutes later,

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02:01:58,160 --> 02:02:02,080
Speaker 2: that pick up turned around came back to taco bell

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02:02:03,240 --> 02:02:07,440
Speaker 2: and fired shots into the taco bell. Yes, shots fired,

2213
02:02:07,760 --> 02:02:11,320
Speaker 2: real shots fired. Well, the employee called nine to one

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02:02:11,440 --> 02:02:14,600
Speaker 2: one saying the man was shooting at them, and actually

2215
02:02:14,640 --> 02:02:17,400
Speaker 2: police were quickly able to locate the pickup and detained

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02:02:17,400 --> 02:02:20,839
Speaker 2: the driver, mister David Sharp, thirty years old, and inside

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02:02:20,840 --> 02:02:23,600
Speaker 2: of the truck, police said they found a nine milimeter

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02:02:24,160 --> 02:02:26,600
Speaker 2: pistol with a loaded magazine and a bullet chambered in

2219
02:02:26,600 --> 02:02:30,000
Speaker 2: the center console, another twenty two pistol loaded in a

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02:02:30,040 --> 02:02:33,400
Speaker 2: pocket just behind the driver's seat, a glock nine millimeter

2221
02:02:33,520 --> 02:02:37,080
Speaker 2: pistol with an empty magazine, and they also found two

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02:02:37,200 --> 02:02:41,880
Speaker 2: nine millimeter millimeter casings on the front windshield and plenty

2223
02:02:41,960 --> 02:02:45,400
Speaker 2: of other shellcasings and live bullets and a center console.

2224
02:02:46,120 --> 02:02:48,920
Speaker 2: Officers then investigated the taco bell and said they found

2225
02:02:48,920 --> 02:02:51,440
Speaker 2: a bullet hole in the building, as well as a

2226
02:02:51,480 --> 02:02:56,520
Speaker 2: second that grazed an exterior wall. Now, mister Sharp was

2227
02:02:56,640 --> 02:03:00,800
Speaker 2: facing charges of a drive by shooting, do you I harassment,

2228
02:03:01,080 --> 02:03:06,720
Speaker 2: malicious mischief, and violation of a concealed pistol license? But

2229
02:03:06,760 --> 02:03:09,400
Speaker 2: then what's crazy? There's a follow up. It turns out

2230
02:03:09,400 --> 02:03:12,920
Speaker 2: the man accused of shooting the Yakima taco bell and

2231
02:03:12,960 --> 02:03:18,680
Speaker 2: threatenings employees last month will not face charges. How the

2232
02:03:18,720 --> 02:03:22,600
Speaker 2: hell did that happen? Apparently the charges were reviewed and

2233
02:03:22,680 --> 02:03:28,040
Speaker 2: dropped because they did not appear to constitute a felty huh. Well,

2234
02:03:28,040 --> 02:03:30,240
Speaker 2: he can still be charged in district court of Municipal war.

2235
02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:32,640
Speaker 2: But anyway, your flight's it. You got to be kidding me,

2236
02:03:32,920 --> 02:03:36,640
Speaker 2: mister David Sharp. Want a little taco bell Yakima, Washington.

2237
02:03:37,200 --> 02:03:42,440
Speaker 2: What kind of brand new full of you? Okay, Brie,

2238
02:03:42,880 --> 02:03:44,680
Speaker 2: looking forward to what you got for us tonight?

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02:03:46,200 --> 02:03:47,280
Speaker 10: Alrighty okay.

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Speaker 9: So driver's ad has a whole new meeting after police

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02:03:50,680 --> 02:03:54,920
Speaker 9: in Pennsylvania arrested a man for allegedly being drunk while

2242
02:03:54,960 --> 02:04:01,120
Speaker 9: teaching a teenager how to drive. Officer responded to reports

2243
02:04:01,200 --> 02:04:04,920
Speaker 9: of a reckless driver. As the call reported, a white

2244
02:04:04,960 --> 02:04:08,920
Speaker 9: pickup truck drove around the roundabout before driving into a ditch.

2245
02:04:09,520 --> 02:04:13,400
Speaker 9: As the truck backed up onto the road, it reportedly

2246
02:04:13,560 --> 02:04:18,720
Speaker 9: ran over the sidewalk and hit several cones. Police found

2247
02:04:18,720 --> 02:04:21,360
Speaker 9: the truck at a stop sign and identified the driver

2248
02:04:21,600 --> 02:04:24,880
Speaker 9: as an innocent fourteen year old boy. A man in

2249
02:04:24,920 --> 02:04:27,920
Speaker 9: the front passenger seat, identified as thirty nine year old

2250
02:04:27,960 --> 02:04:31,720
Speaker 9: Jonathan Storms, allegedly told officers he was teaching a family

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02:04:31,840 --> 02:04:35,640
Speaker 9: member how to drive. Police said he was intoxicated, smelt

2252
02:04:35,640 --> 02:04:38,520
Speaker 9: of alcohol, slurred his words, and couldn't get out of

2253
02:04:38,520 --> 02:04:41,640
Speaker 9: the car without stumbling. A ride was called to pick

2254
02:04:41,720 --> 02:04:44,240
Speaker 9: up Storms from the scene, and police told him to

2255
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Speaker 9: leave and just leave the truck there and come back

2256
02:04:46,440 --> 02:04:46,960
Speaker 9: in the morning.

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Speaker 10: No, no problem, right.

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02:04:48,600 --> 02:04:51,920
Speaker 9: Ten minutes after he left, Storms returned and tried to

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02:04:51,960 --> 02:04:55,360
Speaker 9: get back into the vehicle. Police said he walked half

2260
02:04:55,400 --> 02:04:59,840
Speaker 9: a block down down the road before he started dan

2261
02:05:00,240 --> 02:05:02,400
Speaker 9: in the middle of the street, putting himself at risk

2262
02:05:02,520 --> 02:05:06,600
Speaker 9: of being hit about. Cars came at him, but he

2263
02:05:06,680 --> 02:05:09,600
Speaker 9: avoided all of them, and then he was eventually brought

2264
02:05:09,600 --> 02:05:13,720
Speaker 9: in for public drunkenness. He is now facing charges of

2265
02:05:14,040 --> 02:05:18,760
Speaker 9: endangering the welfare of children, corruption of miners, public drunkenness,

2266
02:05:18,800 --> 02:05:23,800
Speaker 9: and permitting an unless unlicensed driver. Jonathan Storms of Pennsylvania.

2267
02:05:24,280 --> 02:05:25,640
Speaker 9: What kind of brand new fool are you?

2268
02:05:26,160 --> 02:05:30,120
Speaker 2: Wow? This guy's got a body of work. Yeah wow?

2269
02:05:30,160 --> 02:05:33,760
Speaker 2: What did the report indicate what he blew in terms.

2270
02:05:33,480 --> 02:05:36,320
Speaker 9: Of the No no, but I mean I mean in

2271
02:05:36,360 --> 02:05:37,920
Speaker 9: that kind of punishment, like I think you got to

2272
02:05:37,960 --> 02:05:40,080
Speaker 9: go hang out with like the homage people for a while.

2273
02:05:40,120 --> 02:05:40,680
Speaker 10: And kind of.

2274
02:05:40,600 --> 02:05:43,720
Speaker 9: Just like reset your brain and your morals and values

2275
02:05:43,720 --> 02:05:45,400
Speaker 9: and like, don't don't be doing that.

2276
02:05:45,400 --> 02:05:47,960
Speaker 10: That's so dangerous. And the fourteen year old, right.

2277
02:05:47,880 --> 02:05:50,520
Speaker 2: It doesn't run into Harrison Ford and get left. Look

2278
02:05:50,560 --> 02:05:55,480
Speaker 2: at the job that movie. Yes, Kelly Gillis, all right,

2279
02:05:55,680 --> 02:05:58,400
Speaker 2: that's the story for a different day. All right, great job, Bray,

2280
02:05:58,920 --> 02:06:00,760
Speaker 2: Martin Wiss, you're a vet at this game. What do

2281
02:06:00,800 --> 02:06:01,560
Speaker 2: you got for us tonight?

2282
02:06:02,360 --> 02:06:03,160
Speaker 4: All right? Bernie.

2283
02:06:03,240 --> 02:06:08,080
Speaker 7: As a common theme in Brand New Fool, crime truly

2284
02:06:08,320 --> 02:06:11,640
Speaker 7: sometimes doesn't really pay. And I think this we're gonna

2285
02:06:11,680 --> 02:06:14,720
Speaker 7: have this same kind of scene here. Andrew Wicklson is

2286
02:06:14,760 --> 02:06:19,360
Speaker 7: a mechanic in Indianapolis, Indiana, Okay, And this says he

2287
02:06:19,480 --> 02:06:21,240
Speaker 7: was outside of the door of a business.

2288
02:06:21,280 --> 02:06:22,879
Speaker 4: Now, this business will.

2289
02:06:22,800 --> 02:06:25,520
Speaker 7: Play a major role as to why this guy's a

2290
02:06:25,520 --> 02:06:28,000
Speaker 7: Brand New Fool in just the moment, but I'll save

2291
02:06:28,080 --> 02:06:29,160
Speaker 7: that part for last.

2292
02:06:29,240 --> 02:06:34,240
Speaker 4: Okay. So, Wilkerson was either trying to steal.

2293
02:06:33,920 --> 02:06:36,000
Speaker 7: A car or he alleges that it was a car

2294
02:06:36,040 --> 02:06:38,760
Speaker 7: he was supposed to work on. Wickerson, in his defense,

2295
02:06:38,920 --> 02:06:42,600
Speaker 7: is a mechanic, okay, But he was arguing with somebody

2296
02:06:42,600 --> 02:06:45,920
Speaker 7: who came out of this business saying that Hey, I'm

2297
02:06:45,920 --> 02:06:47,800
Speaker 7: gonna call the police on you because you're trying to

2298
02:06:47,800 --> 02:06:51,120
Speaker 7: steal my car, all right, He says he was just

2299
02:06:51,160 --> 02:06:52,960
Speaker 7: trying to do his job and take the car for

2300
02:06:53,000 --> 02:06:57,280
Speaker 7: an inspection at the muffler shop next door. Now, this

2301
02:06:57,360 --> 02:07:02,680
Speaker 7: conversation escalated further, and for they're further until Wilkerson entered

2302
02:07:02,680 --> 02:07:06,520
Speaker 7: the business in which Archer lit'sten Gavin Archer was standing.

2303
02:07:07,320 --> 02:07:10,560
Speaker 4: The business Bernie was a jiu jitsu studio.

2304
02:07:10,720 --> 02:07:11,480
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

2305
02:07:11,520 --> 02:07:14,720
Speaker 7: So Wilkerson ended up walking into this place and talking

2306
02:07:14,760 --> 02:07:16,680
Speaker 7: all types of stuff and ended up with a knuckle

2307
02:07:16,800 --> 02:07:19,400
Speaker 7: sand which is gonna be black eye on the news.

2308
02:07:20,120 --> 02:07:22,640
Speaker 7: And it just stands the reason, if you're gonna try

2309
02:07:22,680 --> 02:07:26,160
Speaker 7: to steal a car, maybe outside of the jiu jitsu

2310
02:07:26,600 --> 02:07:29,520
Speaker 7: studio is not the best place to try to do it.

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02:07:29,560 --> 02:07:30,720
Speaker 4: I can think of a few places.

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02:07:30,720 --> 02:07:35,640
Speaker 7: The police station, jiu jitsu studio, you know, boxing, boxing,

2313
02:07:36,520 --> 02:07:38,760
Speaker 7: Those are places I'm probably not trying to steal a car.

2314
02:07:39,040 --> 02:07:41,440
Speaker 7: Next time Wilkerson is in this predicament, if he ever

2315
02:07:41,520 --> 02:07:44,360
Speaker 7: finds himself again, I tooges the school for the Blonde.

2316
02:07:46,320 --> 02:07:51,560
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you Channel Channel are paging Dave Chappelle

2317
02:07:51,640 --> 02:07:54,040
Speaker 2: when keeping a real goes terribly wrong, You're gonna go

2318
02:07:54,120 --> 02:07:57,720
Speaker 2: to a jiu jitsu studio and steal a car. So

2319
02:07:57,920 --> 02:08:01,200
Speaker 2: what's interesting is the Midwest represent the night. I don't

2320
02:08:01,200 --> 02:08:05,600
Speaker 2: think we've had one from Indiana. So we had Yakama, Washington, Pennsylvania,

2321
02:08:05,680 --> 02:08:11,280
Speaker 2: Homage Country, and in Indianapolis. No Florida tonight. This is

2322
02:08:11,320 --> 02:08:12,800
Speaker 2: like the first time in a while that we hadn't

2323
02:08:12,840 --> 02:08:16,800
Speaker 2: had one from Florida or maybe overseas. Anyway, All good stuff,

2324
02:08:16,840 --> 02:08:20,560
Speaker 2: great job everybody. That of course allows us to segue

2325
02:08:20,680 --> 02:08:23,760
Speaker 2: into our second favorite bit that we lovingly referred to

2326
02:08:23,840 --> 02:08:30,320
Speaker 2: as what my name? Here we go, all right? Recently

2327
02:08:30,360 --> 02:08:34,480
Speaker 2: I became the oldest w NBA player to score thirty

2328
02:08:34,520 --> 02:08:37,959
Speaker 2: points in a game Martin Wies what my name.

2329
02:08:38,840 --> 02:08:41,320
Speaker 4: Is your name? Diana to arousing.

2330
02:08:41,360 --> 02:08:49,800
Speaker 2: Bamoo right out of the gate one for one. Also

2331
02:08:49,920 --> 02:08:53,120
Speaker 2: this past week, I became the first WNBA player to

2332
02:08:53,160 --> 02:08:57,960
Speaker 2: score thirty five points, ten rebounds, and get five steals

2333
02:08:58,440 --> 02:08:59,600
Speaker 2: in a single game.

2334
02:09:01,440 --> 02:09:05,160
Speaker 10: Bre what my name Caitlyn Clark?

2335
02:09:06,320 --> 02:09:08,280
Speaker 2: I'll take the guests, but it's not Caitlin Clark, but

2336
02:09:08,360 --> 02:09:11,360
Speaker 2: good on you for the effort. Became the first WNBA

2337
02:09:11,440 --> 02:09:14,440
Speaker 2: player about a week ago thirty five points, ten rebounds,

2338
02:09:14,440 --> 02:09:18,360
Speaker 2: and five steals in the same game. Mark Ramsey, what

2339
02:09:18,480 --> 02:09:20,480
Speaker 2: my name? It's a big time player. Probably the best.

2340
02:09:20,320 --> 02:09:22,560
Speaker 4: Player in the league is their first name Asia.

2341
02:09:22,680 --> 02:09:24,800
Speaker 2: Her first name is Asia and her last name is Will,

2342
02:09:24,880 --> 02:09:29,760
Speaker 2: so the judges will allow it. You got it, all right?

2343
02:09:29,800 --> 02:09:33,160
Speaker 2: You guys are on fire tonight. You're in fuego, in fuego.

2344
02:09:34,800 --> 02:09:37,560
Speaker 2: All right, Let's flip to baseball. You know, starting in

2345
02:09:37,560 --> 02:09:41,800
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight, they started pitch tracking the miles

2346
02:09:41,800 --> 02:09:46,800
Speaker 2: per hour on every single pitch. I'm the only Major

2347
02:09:46,840 --> 02:09:51,960
Speaker 2: League baseball pitcher in history to strike out a batter

2348
02:09:52,400 --> 02:09:56,280
Speaker 2: on three pitches and have all three pitches be one

2349
02:09:56,360 --> 02:09:59,800
Speaker 2: hundred miles an hour. Martin Weiss, what my name?

2350
02:10:00,520 --> 02:10:05,600
Speaker 7: This is better known as Livy Dunn's boyfriend Paul Skins.

2351
02:10:06,440 --> 02:10:10,560
Speaker 2: Points bonus points for throwing the poo in there, Libby Dunn,

2352
02:10:11,640 --> 02:10:14,720
Speaker 2: Mark Martin, listen, tell the people who Livey Dunn is oh.

2353
02:10:15,360 --> 02:10:18,720
Speaker 7: Look with their millions of followers on TikTok and Instagram.

2354
02:10:18,720 --> 02:10:20,640
Speaker 7: I think the people may already know, but Livy Dunn,

2355
02:10:21,040 --> 02:10:23,680
Speaker 7: famous for being an LSU gymnast, that.

2356
02:10:23,800 --> 02:10:26,480
Speaker 2: Is exactly correct. So you guys are three for three

2357
02:10:27,320 --> 02:10:32,000
Speaker 2: in fuego. All right, I am the last NBA player

2358
02:10:33,440 --> 02:10:39,400
Speaker 2: to be a Finals MVP in back to back seasons. Bri,

2359
02:10:39,480 --> 02:10:41,280
Speaker 2: you're gonna get this one, Brie. What my name?

2360
02:10:42,120 --> 02:10:45,160
Speaker 10: KD Kevin Kevin Durants.

2361
02:10:46,040 --> 02:10:48,880
Speaker 2: All right, you guys are just showing off. Now, okay,

2362
02:10:49,200 --> 02:10:54,760
Speaker 2: you're just showing off. All right. Danny Hurley has won

2363
02:10:54,880 --> 02:10:58,600
Speaker 2: back to back championships with Yukon Huskies and college basketball.

2364
02:10:59,240 --> 02:11:02,760
Speaker 2: I'm the last coach to win back to back championships

2365
02:11:02,760 --> 02:11:06,480
Speaker 2: in college basketball. Mark Ramsey, what my name?

2366
02:11:08,200 --> 02:11:14,640
Speaker 11: I can only think of the female con Yukon team.

2367
02:11:15,080 --> 02:11:18,760
Speaker 2: No, well, it's this is male, the male bachelor. I

2368
02:11:18,800 --> 02:11:24,320
Speaker 2: probably should have bestified. Moving along, Okay, moving along, I

2369
02:11:24,400 --> 02:11:27,040
Speaker 2: am the last NBA Finals check that. I already did

2370
02:11:27,040 --> 02:11:29,440
Speaker 2: that one. Excuse me, excuse me, I've been drinking. I promise.

2371
02:11:30,440 --> 02:11:34,680
Speaker 2: I'm the last coach to win back to back in

2372
02:11:35,320 --> 02:11:39,000
Speaker 2: college basketball championships. I know Danny Hurley has just done it,

2373
02:11:39,080 --> 02:11:42,640
Speaker 2: but I'm the last coach to do it. Martin Wises

2374
02:11:42,680 --> 02:11:43,120
Speaker 2: what my name?

2375
02:11:43,360 --> 02:11:45,560
Speaker 7: You mentioned him early in the show, Bernie, that's one.

2376
02:11:46,400 --> 02:11:48,760
Speaker 7: Oh gosh, what's his name now? I'm not see his

2377
02:11:48,840 --> 02:11:52,320
Speaker 7: face for coaching Providence coaches the Chicago Bulls, Billy Donovan,

2378
02:11:52,400 --> 02:11:53,400
Speaker 7: There you go, Billy.

2379
02:11:53,280 --> 02:11:56,839
Speaker 2: Donovan is correct? A mundo and I do that typically

2380
02:11:56,920 --> 02:11:58,880
Speaker 2: once the show, where I'll reference the name earlier in

2381
02:11:58,920 --> 02:12:04,560
Speaker 2: the show. Good on you for for yeah, keep you

2382
02:12:04,640 --> 02:12:05,280
Speaker 2: track of that all.

2383
02:12:05,640 --> 02:12:07,280
Speaker 4: I did the question for you though, real quick?

2384
02:12:07,560 --> 02:12:09,520
Speaker 7: Where do you come down on a fifty nine year

2385
02:12:09,520 --> 02:12:10,880
Speaker 7: old man named Billy?

2386
02:12:13,400 --> 02:12:13,480
Speaker 9: Do?

2387
02:12:13,600 --> 02:12:16,000
Speaker 4: We twitch to William and I'm.

2388
02:12:15,480 --> 02:12:17,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to get back on that one. I'm

2389
02:12:17,160 --> 02:12:18,480
Speaker 2: gonna have to get back here on that one. I

2390
02:12:19,160 --> 02:12:21,600
Speaker 2: that's a that's like you froze me on a curveball there.

2391
02:12:21,680 --> 02:12:26,400
Speaker 2: I don't I never really gave it much thought. How

2392
02:12:26,400 --> 02:12:30,600
Speaker 2: old was Billy Bardi when he died eighty? I don't know.

2393
02:12:30,920 --> 02:12:33,440
Speaker 2: I have to get back to you on that one. Uh,

2394
02:12:34,280 --> 02:12:39,120
Speaker 2: that's fair, that's fair, all right. I'm the last college

2395
02:12:39,360 --> 02:12:44,920
Speaker 2: basketball coach to win three championships in a row. Brie,

2396
02:12:45,160 --> 02:12:45,840
Speaker 2: what my name?

2397
02:12:48,480 --> 02:12:49,240
Speaker 10: John woulden?

2398
02:12:49,800 --> 02:12:51,160
Speaker 2: You guys are just on fire.

2399
02:12:51,560 --> 02:12:56,240
Speaker 12: You've at six in a row tonight, all right, while

2400
02:12:56,240 --> 02:13:00,960
Speaker 12: we're into streaks, Well, the Women's College World Series just

2401
02:13:01,080 --> 02:13:05,680
Speaker 12: came to an end, and I am now the only

2402
02:13:05,760 --> 02:13:12,920
Speaker 12: coach to win four straight Women's College World Series softball championships.

2403
02:13:13,120 --> 02:13:14,280
Speaker 2: Mark Ramsey, what my name?

2404
02:13:16,000 --> 02:13:18,160
Speaker 4: I don't know the coach's name, but it was Oklahoma.

2405
02:13:18,960 --> 02:13:23,520
Speaker 2: Well that's not bad. Can't the judges can't allow it?

2406
02:13:23,560 --> 02:13:28,760
Speaker 2: But good on you. You know the school I am the Well,

2407
02:13:28,800 --> 02:13:31,320
Speaker 2: I'm the only coach to win four straight World Series

2408
02:13:31,360 --> 02:13:35,920
Speaker 2: Women's World Series Softball championships. Martin Weiss, What.

2409
02:13:35,800 --> 02:13:38,560
Speaker 4: My name is that? Patty Gasso?

2410
02:13:38,840 --> 02:13:46,800
Speaker 2: It is Patty Gasso. Let's see one, two, three, four,

2411
02:13:47,360 --> 02:13:49,400
Speaker 2: seven in a row. You guys have got. This is amazing,

2412
02:13:49,400 --> 02:13:52,440
Speaker 2: This is tremendous, outstanding, good stuff. All right. I'm the

2413
02:13:52,480 --> 02:13:56,440
Speaker 2: only basketball coach in history to win a championship at

2414
02:13:56,480 --> 02:13:59,839
Speaker 2: the NBA level and on the college level. Mark Ramsey,

2415
02:13:59,840 --> 02:14:00,480
Speaker 2: what my name?

2416
02:14:02,760 --> 02:14:03,600
Speaker 4: Digger Phelps?

2417
02:14:04,720 --> 02:14:07,680
Speaker 2: Former Notre Dame coach. Love it not Digger Phelps. I

2418
02:14:07,720 --> 02:14:10,920
Speaker 2: am the only basketball coach in history to win championships

2419
02:14:11,320 --> 02:14:15,520
Speaker 2: in the NBA and in the college game. Bre Muro

2420
02:14:15,680 --> 02:14:16,560
Speaker 2: What my name.

2421
02:14:19,640 --> 02:14:20,480
Speaker 10: Of Phil Jackson?

2422
02:14:22,240 --> 02:14:25,000
Speaker 2: Not a bad guess. I don't recall Phil ever coached

2423
02:14:25,200 --> 02:14:25,720
Speaker 2: in college.

2424
02:14:25,720 --> 02:14:27,920
Speaker 9: But you're thinking as a player. I'm sorry, I'm sorry,

2425
02:14:27,920 --> 02:14:29,320
Speaker 9: appreciate the effort.

2426
02:14:29,440 --> 02:14:32,360
Speaker 2: I'm the only basketball coach to win championships in the

2427
02:14:32,480 --> 02:14:35,360
Speaker 2: NBA and on the college level. Martin Wiss, what.

2428
02:14:35,360 --> 02:14:37,440
Speaker 4: My name that is Larry Brown?

2429
02:14:37,560 --> 02:14:40,760
Speaker 2: It is, of course Larry Brown won it with Kansas

2430
02:14:40,800 --> 02:14:42,760
Speaker 2: back in nineteen eighty eight, and then won with the

2431
02:14:42,840 --> 02:14:46,040
Speaker 2: Pistons in two thousand and four. I had the privilege

2432
02:14:46,040 --> 02:14:49,080
Speaker 2: of covering that team. Larry Brown was a weirdo, but

2433
02:14:49,200 --> 02:14:53,200
Speaker 2: he could coach all right. As a high school player

2434
02:14:53,320 --> 02:14:58,680
Speaker 2: basketball player in Ohio, I broke all of Lebron James

2435
02:14:58,840 --> 02:15:02,800
Speaker 2: high school scoring records. Mark Ramsey, what my name.

2436
02:15:04,280 --> 02:15:06,640
Speaker 4: Would it happened to be? Bronnie James?

2437
02:15:08,280 --> 02:15:12,160
Speaker 2: Brownie actually went to high school in California. But good effort.

2438
02:15:12,200 --> 02:15:14,520
Speaker 11: Good guess I thought you transfer just kidding.

2439
02:15:14,640 --> 02:15:17,160
Speaker 2: He might have I you know, I have to check

2440
02:15:17,200 --> 02:15:21,640
Speaker 2: that out, all right. I as an Ohio schoolboy, wonder

2441
02:15:21,680 --> 02:15:27,080
Speaker 2: I broke all of bron James high school basketball scoring records.

2442
02:15:27,120 --> 02:15:28,440
Speaker 2: Martin Weiss, What my name.

2443
02:15:30,200 --> 02:15:30,440
Speaker 4: Is that?

2444
02:15:31,440 --> 02:15:34,800
Speaker 2: It is Luke Canard, who is mister basketball in Ohio.

2445
02:15:35,480 --> 02:15:37,960
Speaker 2: And also I believe it was an all state quarterback

2446
02:15:37,960 --> 02:15:41,360
Speaker 2: and option quarterback. Good athlete, didn't quite pan out pretty

2447
02:15:41,360 --> 02:15:42,760
Speaker 2: good A duke too, didn't quite pan out in the

2448
02:15:42,840 --> 02:15:44,040
Speaker 2: NBA like I thought he would, but he had his

2449
02:15:44,080 --> 02:15:47,040
Speaker 2: moments had his moments? All right, last one. We'll see

2450
02:15:47,040 --> 02:15:48,240
Speaker 2: if we can go undefeed it here, and I think

2451
02:15:48,280 --> 02:15:51,680
Speaker 2: you guys are probably gonna do it. I'm the only

2452
02:15:51,760 --> 02:15:55,400
Speaker 2: white basketball player in history to be offered a contract

2453
02:15:55,480 --> 02:15:59,600
Speaker 2: by the Harlem Globetrotters Bremuro. What my name?

2454
02:16:01,840 --> 02:16:03,680
Speaker 10: I was gonna say, Pete Maravich, But I don't think

2455
02:16:03,680 --> 02:16:04,080
Speaker 10: that's right.

2456
02:16:05,080 --> 02:16:06,120
Speaker 2: What were you gonna say?

2457
02:16:06,160 --> 02:16:07,160
Speaker 10: Please, Pete Maravich?

2458
02:16:07,680 --> 02:16:12,360
Speaker 2: Winner, winner, chickare look at you? You guys just killed

2459
02:16:12,480 --> 02:16:15,120
Speaker 2: at it tonight. Oh my goodness, you're just showing off

2460
02:16:15,800 --> 02:16:20,600
Speaker 2: unreal performance, outstanding. You know what. We're gonna go one more.

2461
02:16:20,640 --> 02:16:22,280
Speaker 2: We're gonna go one more. Not not so I can

2462
02:16:22,280 --> 02:16:24,040
Speaker 2: see Frank Stumpy, Let's see how long we can keep

2463
02:16:24,040 --> 02:16:28,280
Speaker 2: this going. Okay, in the history of the National Basketball Association,

2464
02:16:28,880 --> 02:16:32,120
Speaker 2: I have been assessed more technical files than anybody in

2465
02:16:32,160 --> 02:16:34,760
Speaker 2: the history of the National Basketball Association. That's the department

2466
02:16:34,800 --> 02:16:37,200
Speaker 2: We'doneancy department, Martin Whiss, What my name?

2467
02:16:38,160 --> 02:16:41,439
Speaker 4: That is? Detroit Piston's legend, Rashid Wallace.

2468
02:16:42,600 --> 02:16:46,520
Speaker 2: Don't believe that's the correct answer. Oh what don't believe

2469
02:16:46,520 --> 02:16:48,640
Speaker 2: that's the correct answer. You can look it up. But

2470
02:16:49,600 --> 02:16:52,039
Speaker 2: it's someone else played a lot longer action than what

2471
02:16:52,080 --> 02:16:56,280
Speaker 2: she did, although she did have a share. According to

2472
02:16:56,280 --> 02:16:59,560
Speaker 2: my research, I was assessed the most technical files in

2473
02:16:59,800 --> 02:17:03,520
Speaker 2: his street of the NBA. Mark Ramsey, what my name?

2474
02:17:04,760 --> 02:17:06,320
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with Darryl Dawkins.

2475
02:17:06,720 --> 02:17:13,280
Speaker 2: Oh, Chocolate thunder not Darryl Dawkin. God, I love that dude. Man, Oh,

2476
02:17:13,440 --> 02:17:16,600
Speaker 2: I love that dude. I don't He's not with us anymore,

2477
02:17:16,640 --> 02:17:20,600
Speaker 2: is he? All right? Anyway, Let's see if Bree can

2478
02:17:20,680 --> 02:17:23,199
Speaker 2: save the day in the history of the National ball

2479
02:17:23,280 --> 02:17:26,000
Speaker 2: uh football. Nice? Nice talking to you folks last time

2480
02:17:26,000 --> 02:17:28,760
Speaker 2: I ran a tone on man place. In the history

2481
02:17:28,760 --> 02:17:31,959
Speaker 2: of the National Basketball Association. I have been assessed more

2482
02:17:31,959 --> 02:17:35,400
Speaker 2: technicals than anybody in the history of the National Basketball

2483
02:17:35,480 --> 02:17:40,440
Speaker 2: Association Department of Redundancy Department Bree mro What my name?

2484
02:17:40,680 --> 02:17:45,400
Speaker 10: The mailman Carmel.

2485
02:17:44,480 --> 02:17:47,480
Speaker 2: And he only beat Charles Barkley by three. Rashid Wallace

2486
02:17:47,600 --> 02:17:49,560
Speaker 2: is on the list. He's about fifteen behind the mailman.

2487
02:17:49,879 --> 02:17:52,440
Speaker 2: Not only do you get the name, you get the

2488
02:17:52,560 --> 02:17:57,160
Speaker 2: freaking nickname too. Am I gonna have to do a

2489
02:17:57,200 --> 02:17:58,600
Speaker 2: hockey one to stump you guys?

2490
02:17:58,640 --> 02:18:01,039
Speaker 9: Oh my god, no, please, I'm just say Sidney Crosby

2491
02:18:01,080 --> 02:18:02,800
Speaker 9: for all of them, and just call it today.

2492
02:18:03,040 --> 02:18:05,120
Speaker 2: All right, let's call it today. We'll call it today.

2493
02:18:05,680 --> 02:18:09,200
Speaker 2: Outstanding job by everybody on what kind of brand new

2494
02:18:09,200 --> 02:18:12,640
Speaker 2: fool of you? And certainly what my name? Just an

2495
02:18:12,680 --> 02:18:16,920
Speaker 2: outstanding job? I think I just said that. I'm redundant tonight, Hey,

2496
02:18:17,000 --> 02:18:20,920
Speaker 2: come it up, coming up, We've got quite a list

2497
02:18:21,040 --> 02:18:24,400
Speaker 2: of first year nominees on the College Football Hall of

2498
02:18:24,400 --> 02:18:27,600
Speaker 2: Fame ballot. I'll share that with you. I'm Bernie Frattle.

2499
02:18:27,640 --> 02:18:29,560
Speaker 2: Were coming to live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports

2500
02:18:29,600 --> 02:18:31,800
Speaker 2: Radio tirect dot com studios. Keep it locked right here.

2501
02:18:32,120 --> 02:18:34,840
Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

2502
02:18:47,080 --> 02:18:49,480
Speaker 2: All right, back at the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio.

2503
02:18:49,520 --> 02:18:51,560
Speaker 2: Come to lie from the Tarareck dot com studios here

2504
02:18:51,600 --> 02:18:56,800
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. Hey, Martin, I got an interesting tweet

2505
02:18:56,840 --> 02:19:00,120
Speaker 2: from somebody. I have no doubt with your vastionllege as

2506
02:19:00,200 --> 02:19:03,160
Speaker 2: you know who Billy D Williams is. Right, of course,

2507
02:19:04,360 --> 02:19:06,440
Speaker 2: some great movies by the way, played Gil Sears and

2508
02:19:06,480 --> 02:19:09,640
Speaker 2: Brian Song and he was can't Lando Calasian and the

2509
02:19:09,920 --> 02:19:12,119
Speaker 2: Star Wars franchise. I think it was in Bengal Long's

2510
02:19:12,120 --> 02:19:17,360
Speaker 2: All Stars still looks good at eighty seven, still goes

2511
02:19:17,400 --> 02:19:21,680
Speaker 2: by the name Billy. This tweeter tweeted at me and said,

2512
02:19:22,360 --> 02:19:26,240
Speaker 2: ask him if it's okay if Billy D. Williams goes

2513
02:19:26,320 --> 02:19:29,400
Speaker 2: by the name Billy or if he's too old your.

2514
02:19:29,240 --> 02:19:32,320
Speaker 7: Thoughts see, but he goes by Billy D. To me,

2515
02:19:32,480 --> 02:19:34,920
Speaker 7: that's Billy D.

2516
02:19:35,200 --> 02:19:36,480
Speaker 4: I don't know. It's a little different.

2517
02:19:36,480 --> 02:19:36,680
Speaker 2: To me.

2518
02:19:38,280 --> 02:19:39,520
Speaker 4: I just think it's certain to think.

2519
02:19:39,400 --> 02:19:43,320
Speaker 2: About fair enough. Well, listen, we like thinkers on this show.

2520
02:19:43,360 --> 02:19:45,600
Speaker 2: We do. I told you, man, I'm no high school

2521
02:19:45,680 --> 02:19:47,080
Speaker 2: drop out. I went to the full six years. I'm

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Speaker 2: a thinker. All right, good stuff, good answer.

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02:19:50,240 --> 02:19:53,720
Speaker 7: Good And the other thing about Billy D. Sorry, I

2524
02:19:53,720 --> 02:19:55,080
Speaker 7: don't need to cut you off, Bernie. But the other

2525
02:19:55,120 --> 02:19:57,840
Speaker 7: think about Billy D' his name is William Williams.

2526
02:19:58,280 --> 02:19:59,680
Speaker 4: So that's a tough one right there.

2527
02:19:59,680 --> 02:20:01,560
Speaker 7: I don't know Mom and Dad were thinking, but he's

2528
02:20:01,560 --> 02:20:04,000
Speaker 7: got to go with Billy just a differentiate from first

2529
02:20:04,000 --> 02:20:04,760
Speaker 7: and last name.

2530
02:20:05,600 --> 02:20:08,520
Speaker 2: How about is our guy? Mark Ramsey just reminded me

2531
02:20:08,600 --> 02:20:14,760
Speaker 2: former Chicago cub Billy Williams.

2532
02:20:15,080 --> 02:20:17,840
Speaker 4: I guess there's more of them out there than you'd expect, right.

2533
02:20:18,240 --> 02:20:20,360
Speaker 2: Right, What we'll do is next time we work together,

2534
02:20:20,360 --> 02:20:22,039
Speaker 2: we just can do the whole damn four hours on

2535
02:20:22,120 --> 02:20:26,280
Speaker 2: Billy's Billy like Billy Martin and right, all right, maybe

2536
02:20:26,320 --> 02:20:31,080
Speaker 2: not all right. The Hall of Fame list the first

2537
02:20:31,160 --> 02:20:35,280
Speaker 2: year nominated the twenty five College Football Hall of Fame ballot.

2538
02:20:35,879 --> 02:20:40,080
Speaker 2: Seventy seven players and nine coaches, including Nick Saban and

2539
02:20:40,200 --> 02:20:43,760
Speaker 2: Urban Meyer. They're up for election. A lot of really

2540
02:20:43,840 --> 02:20:49,400
Speaker 2: interesting names. Mark Ingram from Alabama. Just saw him on

2541
02:20:50,480 --> 02:20:54,040
Speaker 2: radio row at the Super Bowl. Look great, Love that dude. Man.

2542
02:20:54,200 --> 02:20:58,840
Speaker 2: I'll never forget his his his Heisman speech back in

2543
02:20:58,879 --> 02:21:03,760
Speaker 2: December twenty nine. It was actually very very moving. Also,

2544
02:21:03,879 --> 02:21:06,800
Speaker 2: Michael Vick is on the list, Marvin Harrison, the late

2545
02:21:06,879 --> 02:21:12,240
Speaker 2: Sean Taylor who played at Miami, and one name and

2546
02:21:12,320 --> 02:21:13,760
Speaker 2: I might have something for you at the end of

2547
02:21:13,800 --> 02:21:15,879
Speaker 2: the show. He's back in the news. Maybe you might

2548
02:21:15,920 --> 02:21:20,000
Speaker 2: see him more. Twenty twenty twelve Heisman Trophy runner up

2549
02:21:20,440 --> 02:21:25,680
Speaker 2: Manti Tayo He's also on the list as well. Speaking

2550
02:21:25,680 --> 02:21:27,200
Speaker 2: a football, we're gonna get to the other kind of

2551
02:21:27,240 --> 02:21:29,520
Speaker 2: international football coming up, but first let's go back to

2552
02:21:29,560 --> 02:21:32,160
Speaker 2: our guy. Martin Weiss with the latest.

2553
02:21:33,200 --> 02:21:35,280
Speaker 7: The Florida Panthers took game one of the Stanley Cup

2554
02:21:35,320 --> 02:21:38,720
Speaker 7: Final three to nothing over the Edmonton Oilers. In baseball,

2555
02:21:38,920 --> 02:21:41,360
Speaker 7: the Yankees beat the Dodgers I'm Sorry. The Dodgers beat

2556
02:21:41,400 --> 02:21:44,000
Speaker 7: the Yankees eleven to three. Tay Oscar Hernandez had two

2557
02:21:44,000 --> 02:21:47,080
Speaker 7: home runs, including a grand slam. Aaron Judge had two

2558
02:21:47,080 --> 02:21:49,840
Speaker 7: home runs himself. The Reds won their seventh straight game,

2559
02:21:49,879 --> 02:21:52,520
Speaker 7: beating the Cubs four to three Andrew Rabbit his fifth

2560
02:21:52,560 --> 02:21:55,760
Speaker 7: win on the year. Cincinnati improves to thirty two and

2561
02:21:55,840 --> 02:21:59,400
Speaker 7: thirty three, second in the NL Central. Toronto Blue Jay

2562
02:21:59,440 --> 02:22:02,320
Speaker 7: shout out the A seven and nothing. Kevin Gossman through

2563
02:22:02,360 --> 02:22:05,520
Speaker 7: a complete game with ten strikeouts for the win. Padrids

2564
02:22:05,520 --> 02:22:08,560
Speaker 7: beat the Diamondbacks thirteen to one. San Diego House cord

2565
02:22:08,640 --> 02:22:11,119
Speaker 7: Arizona thirty I'm Sorry twenty three to four.

2566
02:22:11,480 --> 02:22:12,600
Speaker 4: In the last two games.

2567
02:22:12,879 --> 02:22:15,920
Speaker 7: Phillies beat the Mats seven to two in London. Bryce

2568
02:22:15,959 --> 02:22:18,920
Speaker 7: Harper had three hits, including his fifteenth homer of the year.

2569
02:22:19,200 --> 02:22:22,560
Speaker 7: Fifty four thousand in attendance there. Philadelphia now with a

2570
02:22:22,720 --> 02:22:26,520
Speaker 7: forty five and nineteen record. Guardians won eight to nothing

2571
02:22:26,560 --> 02:22:29,240
Speaker 7: over the Marlins, and Cleveland has a three game lead

2572
02:22:29,280 --> 02:22:31,720
Speaker 7: over the Royals in the AL Central. Astros beat the

2573
02:22:31,760 --> 02:22:34,880
Speaker 7: Angels six to one, Astros five games under five hundred

2574
02:22:35,240 --> 02:22:38,160
Speaker 7: thirty and thirty five. Game two of the NBA Finals

2575
02:22:38,200 --> 02:22:40,959
Speaker 7: is later tonight in Boston. Celtics lead the Mavericks won

2576
02:22:41,000 --> 02:22:44,240
Speaker 7: a nothing in the series. Kyleins Baseball Super Regions those

2577
02:22:44,240 --> 02:22:48,039
Speaker 7: North Carolina, Florida State, Virginia all advanced. Evansville beat number

2578
02:22:48,040 --> 02:22:51,680
Speaker 7: one Tennessee to force a game three. Later today, Scottie

2579
02:22:51,680 --> 02:22:54,120
Speaker 7: Scheffler leads to the Memorial by four strokes, and in

2580
02:22:54,680 --> 02:22:58,680
Speaker 7: an exhibition match, US men's soccer lost five to one

2581
02:22:58,920 --> 02:22:59,800
Speaker 7: against Columbia.

2582
02:23:00,160 --> 02:23:01,840
Speaker 4: Bernie back to you, all.

2583
02:23:01,879 --> 02:23:07,000
Speaker 2: Right, Martin, good stuff, Bud, all right, Uh this week

2584
02:23:07,320 --> 02:23:10,080
Speaker 2: I checked that this time every week we listen. It

2585
02:23:10,080 --> 02:23:13,880
Speaker 2: doesn't matter if it's on field, off field, in season,

2586
02:23:13,920 --> 02:23:16,680
Speaker 2: out of season. And of course we are just weeks

2587
02:23:16,720 --> 02:23:19,160
Speaker 2: away from the Paris Olympics. That was just in Paris

2588
02:23:19,200 --> 02:23:22,640
Speaker 2: fifteen days ago and they're ready for it. Man saw

2589
02:23:22,640 --> 02:23:24,560
Speaker 2: the stadium where the soccer games are going to be played.

2590
02:23:25,160 --> 02:23:27,720
Speaker 2: So we will have updates for you, as we've had

2591
02:23:27,760 --> 02:23:29,920
Speaker 2: for the past two Ward Cups, and even when we're

2592
02:23:29,959 --> 02:23:33,200
Speaker 2: not in season. That's why each week at this time

2593
02:23:33,240 --> 02:23:35,160
Speaker 2: we bring you Chris Burffett's World of Soccer.

2594
02:23:36,480 --> 02:23:50,240
Speaker 13: The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international drum him.

2595
02:23:52,320 --> 02:24:00,760
Speaker 13: It's all here in this report from the World of Soccer, Bernie.

2596
02:24:00,840 --> 02:24:03,520
Speaker 14: This weekend's World of Soccer, we are taking a trip

2597
02:24:03,600 --> 02:24:08,160
Speaker 14: to America to talk about football, and I mean American football.

2598
02:24:08,400 --> 02:24:12,560
Speaker 14: There has been a story that actually involves soccer in

2599
02:24:12,600 --> 02:24:15,959
Speaker 14: the NFL these past few days, and it comes to

2600
02:24:16,040 --> 02:24:20,440
Speaker 14: us thanks to some very poor choice of words from

2601
02:24:20,520 --> 02:24:24,520
Speaker 14: Josh Jacobs of the Green Bay Packers and unfortunately a

2602
02:24:24,560 --> 02:24:28,040
Speaker 14: lot of news aggregators that have just decided to run

2603
02:24:28,080 --> 02:24:33,400
Speaker 14: with completely false truths, false information, and has really brought

2604
02:24:33,720 --> 02:24:36,360
Speaker 14: some real confusion.

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02:24:35,720 --> 02:24:36,400
Speaker 4: To the world.

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Speaker 14: You may have heard that the Philadelphia Eagles and the

2607
02:24:39,840 --> 02:24:42,320
Speaker 14: Green Bay Packers are going to be playing a game

2608
02:24:42,440 --> 02:24:45,480
Speaker 14: this year in salth Paulo, Brazil. And you may have

2609
02:24:45,520 --> 02:24:48,959
Speaker 14: also heard that fans are being encouraged not to wear

2610
02:24:49,120 --> 02:24:52,320
Speaker 14: their green jerseys. The Eagles wear green, the Packers wear greens,

2611
02:24:52,440 --> 02:24:55,480
Speaker 14: and players won't be able to wear green because of

2612
02:24:55,680 --> 02:24:56,520
Speaker 14: some sort.

2613
02:24:56,320 --> 02:24:58,400
Speaker 4: Of gangs in sal Paulo.

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02:24:58,959 --> 02:25:01,400
Speaker 14: This is one hund ThReD percent and false and the

2615
02:25:01,560 --> 02:25:05,440
Speaker 14: truth is soccer related. Let's step back and try to

2616
02:25:05,480 --> 02:25:08,200
Speaker 14: explain where this all began. Josh Jacobs it was on

2617
02:25:08,440 --> 02:25:11,480
Speaker 14: The Green Light with Chris Long podcast and made these

2618
02:25:11,520 --> 02:25:13,760
Speaker 14: remarks where he said, quote, you know, they said that

2619
02:25:13,800 --> 02:25:15,840
Speaker 14: the part of Brazil we're going to, you can't wear

2620
02:25:15,879 --> 02:25:18,960
Speaker 14: green at They said it's something to do with gangs

2621
02:25:19,000 --> 02:25:21,760
Speaker 14: and stuff. Is It led to aj Brown in the

2622
02:25:21,760 --> 02:25:25,320
Speaker 14: Philadelphia Eagles then going on x formerly known as Twitter

2623
02:25:25,560 --> 02:25:27,840
Speaker 14: and saying the million dollar question is if we can't

2624
02:25:27,840 --> 02:25:30,360
Speaker 14: go anywhere wear a certain color, why are we going.

2625
02:25:30,800 --> 02:25:33,760
Speaker 14: This is where Coper prompted backlash from the NFL, and

2626
02:25:33,920 --> 02:25:36,840
Speaker 14: Jacobs has since apologized for these comments, but not before

2627
02:25:37,080 --> 02:25:40,280
Speaker 14: a bunch of news sites and aggregators out there on

2628
02:25:40,360 --> 02:25:43,480
Speaker 14: this information jumped all over it and spread the rumor

2629
02:25:43,560 --> 02:25:45,680
Speaker 14: far and wide, and now many many people out there

2630
02:25:45,720 --> 02:25:49,280
Speaker 14: believe that gangs will shoot you in sal Polo if

2631
02:25:49,280 --> 02:25:51,760
Speaker 14: you wear green, or in a more team version of this,

2632
02:25:51,920 --> 02:25:54,480
Speaker 14: that both the Eagles and the Packers both teams that

2633
02:25:54,480 --> 02:25:57,359
Speaker 14: wear green. The Eagles of the home team, that somehow

2634
02:25:57,520 --> 02:26:00,680
Speaker 14: they are being told by Brazilians not to wear green,

2635
02:26:01,040 --> 02:26:02,920
Speaker 14: that they have to wear other jureys of the game.

2636
02:26:03,080 --> 02:26:04,080
Speaker 4: That's not true.

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02:26:04,200 --> 02:26:06,480
Speaker 14: This is a soccer story, and let me try to

2638
02:26:06,520 --> 02:26:09,440
Speaker 14: explain it's not even that serious. To begin with, Let's

2639
02:26:09,440 --> 02:26:12,000
Speaker 14: talk about the club in the stadium where the Eagles

2640
02:26:12,040 --> 02:26:16,520
Speaker 14: and Packers will be playing. Sport Club Corinthians Polista, better

2641
02:26:16,600 --> 02:26:20,000
Speaker 14: simply known now as Corinthians, was founded in nineteen ten

2642
02:26:20,080 --> 02:26:24,000
Speaker 14: by railway workers. It is today one of the most

2643
02:26:24,000 --> 02:26:28,840
Speaker 14: successful clubs in Brazil with seven national titles, three Copa

2644
02:26:28,959 --> 02:26:31,960
Speaker 14: de Brazil trophies, and it is one of the most

2645
02:26:32,040 --> 02:26:34,320
Speaker 14: supported clubs in the world, with over.

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02:26:34,360 --> 02:26:36,439
Speaker 1: Thirty million fans.

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02:26:36,800 --> 02:26:40,240
Speaker 14: The stadium, Arena Corinthians, is known by the sponsorship for reasons.

2648
02:26:40,320 --> 02:26:43,840
Speaker 14: Neo Quimicus Stadium was made in twenty fourteen for the

2649
02:26:43,879 --> 02:26:47,800
Speaker 14: FIFA World Cup, hosted six matches, including the opening.

2650
02:26:47,440 --> 02:26:49,240
Speaker 4: Match of that World Cup.

2651
02:26:49,480 --> 02:26:52,360
Speaker 14: It is a very fun it is a very modernized

2652
02:26:52,440 --> 02:26:56,120
Speaker 14: place to watch a soccer game. Now this gets into

2653
02:26:56,280 --> 02:27:00,720
Speaker 14: why the Green, why the greencris It is because Corinthians,

2654
02:27:00,920 --> 02:27:03,840
Speaker 14: a very decorated club, has a crosstown rival by the

2655
02:27:03,920 --> 02:27:07,240
Speaker 14: name of Palmeras. It is part of the Derby Paulista

2656
02:27:07,400 --> 02:27:10,360
Speaker 14: sometimes simply just the derby in that country, because they

2657
02:27:10,360 --> 02:27:13,040
Speaker 14: know which derby you are talking about. A very heated,

2658
02:27:13,560 --> 02:27:17,560
Speaker 14: very passionate rivalry. Paul Marris is a club whose primary

2659
02:27:17,600 --> 02:27:21,440
Speaker 14: colors are green and white their home colors. They wear

2660
02:27:21,480 --> 02:27:25,000
Speaker 14: a green jersey, white pants, and for their way it's

2661
02:27:25,000 --> 02:27:30,600
Speaker 14: the opposite white shirt, green pants. It's always green with them.

2662
02:27:30,920 --> 02:27:35,199
Speaker 14: Because of this, Corinthians and their fans have a informal

2663
02:27:35,280 --> 02:27:39,879
Speaker 14: band on the color green. Fans avoid wearing the color

2664
02:27:39,920 --> 02:27:42,879
Speaker 14: green to their games. In fact, there has been an

2665
02:27:42,959 --> 02:27:46,680
Speaker 14: incident in the past where a Corinthians player was wearing

2666
02:27:47,240 --> 02:27:50,440
Speaker 14: green cleats as part while playing on a game and

2667
02:27:50,480 --> 02:27:55,240
Speaker 14: the club find him for wearing green on his kit.

2668
02:27:55,600 --> 02:27:59,640
Speaker 14: It is a tradition, much like how Ohio State fans

2669
02:27:59,680 --> 02:28:02,959
Speaker 14: decide on the week of the rivalry against Michigan to

2670
02:28:03,240 --> 02:28:05,600
Speaker 14: just use an X in the place of any M

2671
02:28:05,879 --> 02:28:08,600
Speaker 14: in any kind of text they send out, crossout M,

2672
02:28:08,720 --> 02:28:11,800
Speaker 14: avoid the letter M that entire week. But it's just

2673
02:28:11,840 --> 02:28:15,360
Speaker 14: that it is a tradition, is a tradition that Corinthians follow.

2674
02:28:15,760 --> 02:28:17,840
Speaker 14: Would some fans prefer them not to wear green in

2675
02:28:17,879 --> 02:28:22,080
Speaker 14: their stadiums for the Eagles and Packers, Yes, I am sure. However,

2676
02:28:22,240 --> 02:28:25,360
Speaker 14: the club has not told the NFL that neither of

2677
02:28:25,400 --> 02:28:28,119
Speaker 14: these teams can wear green. The Philadelphia Eagles right now

2678
02:28:28,120 --> 02:28:30,760
Speaker 14: haven't decided if they will wear green or if they

2679
02:28:30,760 --> 02:28:33,119
Speaker 14: will wear black, and to be honest, it's not even

2680
02:28:33,120 --> 02:28:36,640
Speaker 14: the first time green's been acceptable in Arena Corinthians. To

2681
02:28:36,680 --> 02:28:39,640
Speaker 14: begin with, as I said, this was a World Cup venue,

2682
02:28:39,800 --> 02:28:43,519
Speaker 14: which meant that many Brazilians were wearing the green Brazilian

2683
02:28:43,640 --> 02:28:48,279
Speaker 14: national team jerseys to the stadium. Green means many things

2684
02:28:48,400 --> 02:28:51,800
Speaker 14: to the Corinthian fan base about Paul Marris, but what

2685
02:28:51,920 --> 02:28:55,560
Speaker 14: it is not is a gang color. While soccer fans

2686
02:28:55,720 --> 02:28:59,440
Speaker 14: may be passionate, while may be very very very passionate,

2687
02:28:59,640 --> 02:29:02,680
Speaker 14: they will not attack you just because they see the

2688
02:29:02,680 --> 02:29:06,920
Speaker 14: color green. This has several implications and it drives me

2689
02:29:06,959 --> 02:29:09,600
Speaker 14: insane for a few reasons. It presumes a lot of

2690
02:29:09,640 --> 02:29:12,320
Speaker 14: these fans, or a lot of Brazilians to be unthinking

2691
02:29:12,360 --> 02:29:15,680
Speaker 14: animals that somehow, if they see the wrong color, much

2692
02:29:15,760 --> 02:29:18,160
Speaker 14: like a raging bowl, that they will simply charge at it.

2693
02:29:18,360 --> 02:29:19,400
Speaker 1: That is not the case.

2694
02:29:19,720 --> 02:29:24,440
Speaker 14: It presumes like that Salpolo is dangerous, and to be clear,

2695
02:29:24,760 --> 02:29:27,200
Speaker 14: to be clear, there is crime in Salpoulo. There is

2696
02:29:27,280 --> 02:29:31,800
Speaker 14: crime everywhere in the world. And for millionaire athletes, yes,

2697
02:29:31,920 --> 02:29:35,600
Speaker 14: you probably will have to go with extra security precautions

2698
02:29:35,600 --> 02:29:38,840
Speaker 14: because that is just the state of the world sometimes,

2699
02:29:39,160 --> 02:29:41,760
Speaker 14: but this episode has unfortunately spread fear. It is not

2700
02:29:41,959 --> 02:29:45,880
Speaker 14: spread doubt where it comes to these the idea of

2701
02:29:45,920 --> 02:29:49,680
Speaker 14: the NFL playing a game in Brazil. Sal Polo's mayor

2702
02:29:49,800 --> 02:29:52,840
Speaker 14: has come out and decried it, saying that Salpolo is

2703
02:29:52,840 --> 02:29:55,400
Speaker 14: a vast metropolis, one of the largest in the world,

2704
02:29:55,680 --> 02:29:58,520
Speaker 14: like many other cities that face is social inequality and crime.

2705
02:29:58,920 --> 02:30:01,760
Speaker 14: But telling players not to wear green is unnecessary and

2706
02:30:01,800 --> 02:30:06,520
Speaker 14: the gang references reinforce stereotypes that only escalates prejudice. And

2707
02:30:06,560 --> 02:30:09,400
Speaker 14: you know what, I fully agree with him and Bernie. Honestly,

2708
02:30:09,400 --> 02:30:11,200
Speaker 14: I feel a little crazy because I feel like this

2709
02:30:11,320 --> 02:30:13,480
Speaker 14: was a story I was aware of. When the NFL

2710
02:30:13,560 --> 02:30:16,560
Speaker 14: schedule came out, it was pointed out by several fans

2711
02:30:16,600 --> 02:30:19,440
Speaker 14: on Twitter that there was this thing with Corinthians where

2712
02:30:19,480 --> 02:30:21,800
Speaker 14: they didn't like the color of green. I was not

2713
02:30:21,920 --> 02:30:24,360
Speaker 14: expecting it to pop up again like this over a

2714
02:30:24,400 --> 02:30:27,040
Speaker 14: month later. This is part of what the NFL wants

2715
02:30:27,080 --> 02:30:29,360
Speaker 14: to do. If it wants to spread it's joy of

2716
02:30:29,440 --> 02:30:32,760
Speaker 14: its sports the world, then sometimes you have to start

2717
02:30:32,800 --> 02:30:35,200
Speaker 14: seeing the rest of the world as human as well,

2718
02:30:35,440 --> 02:30:38,000
Speaker 14: not as dangerous areas to simply walk around.

2719
02:30:38,200 --> 02:30:39,240
Speaker 1: Maybe the NFL.

2720
02:30:38,959 --> 02:30:41,640
Speaker 14: Could have chosen a better area or better teams that

2721
02:30:41,879 --> 02:30:45,680
Speaker 14: don't have this green element to it. But to be honest,

2722
02:30:45,760 --> 02:30:47,760
Speaker 14: it should not be a problem and it will not

2723
02:30:47,920 --> 02:30:50,400
Speaker 14: be a problem. And Bernie, I know you, like me,

2724
02:30:50,920 --> 02:30:53,720
Speaker 14: have a background in formal journalism and one of the

2725
02:30:53,760 --> 02:30:55,920
Speaker 14: things that tears me up about this is a lot

2726
02:30:55,920 --> 02:30:59,240
Speaker 14: of these aggregators on Twitter who take this information and

2727
02:30:59,280 --> 02:31:04,240
Speaker 14: they have off feued no apologies, no retractions, not even corrections.

2728
02:31:04,040 --> 02:31:07,440
Speaker 14: That bad information is still out there right now to

2729
02:31:07,520 --> 02:31:10,280
Speaker 14: this day, and it taints and colors this game, and

2730
02:31:10,320 --> 02:31:15,120
Speaker 14: it taints in colors Salpolo and Corinthians Football Club in

2731
02:31:15,200 --> 02:31:17,960
Speaker 14: ways that are just completely unfair. If you wish to

2732
02:31:17,959 --> 02:31:20,320
Speaker 14: be true to the spirit of Corinthians, don't wear green.

2733
02:31:20,800 --> 02:31:23,320
Speaker 14: But if you are there to support either the Eagles

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Speaker 14: or the Packers, there's probably going to be an exception

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Speaker 14: made for you. Because all this is, at the end

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Speaker 14: of the day, is a tradition held by a sports

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Speaker 14: club here too, by their fans and their player and

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02:31:34,640 --> 02:31:38,080
Speaker 14: their organization. It is not a band placed on anyone else,

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02:31:38,480 --> 02:31:41,400
Speaker 14: but it is a soccer tradition and it is a

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02:31:41,440 --> 02:31:44,200
Speaker 14: fun tradition like no other out there because it is

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02:31:44,280 --> 02:31:46,280
Speaker 14: fun to see these things in the world, and it

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Speaker 14: is fun to see them in the world of soccer.

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Speaker 14: We'll see you next time, Bernie. Copa America is coming.

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Speaker 14: Euro Championship is coming. This is a great time of

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Speaker 14: year to dive into the sport.

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Speaker 2: That is what you call setting the record straight. And

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02:32:03,320 --> 02:32:06,959
Speaker 2: I've fact check everything Chris said. He's accurate, he's spot on,

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02:32:08,320 --> 02:32:11,280
Speaker 2: a very good reportage. And perhaps this is one of

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02:32:11,360 --> 02:32:13,840
Speaker 2: those rare times where the NFL didn't think this through

2750
02:32:13,920 --> 02:32:16,320
Speaker 2: that you send two teams that were green. The Eagles

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02:32:16,320 --> 02:32:19,680
Speaker 2: were the home team who can't wear white while the

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02:32:19,720 --> 02:32:22,959
Speaker 2: Packers wear green. The Eagles want to wear black shirt

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02:32:22,959 --> 02:32:24,879
Speaker 2: instead of a white the Packers have to wear white.

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02:32:25,040 --> 02:32:28,440
Speaker 2: You get the point. You got two teams and their

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02:32:28,480 --> 02:32:30,720
Speaker 2: team colors are green. All right, I'm out for that.

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Speaker 2: Coming up, we wrap up the show. I mentioned Mantaitos

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02:32:35,480 --> 02:32:37,960
Speaker 2: name a minute ago. You might be seeing him again

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Speaker 2: on TV. I'll explain. Coming up, I'm Bernie Fraddle. We're

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02:32:42,920 --> 02:32:44,160
Speaker 2: coming to your life from Well I's say it's Fox

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02:32:44,200 --> 02:32:47,119
Speaker 2: Sports Radio, TIREC dot Com Studios. Keep it locked. You're

2761
02:32:47,160 --> 02:32:49,160
Speaker 2: listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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02:32:50,640 --> 02:32:53,119
Speaker 2: All right, we are wrapping it up on The Bernie

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02:32:53,160 --> 02:32:57,320
Speaker 2: Frattle Show. And before I go any further, I want

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02:32:57,360 --> 02:33:00,240
Speaker 2: to thank my broadcast team back in Los Angeles, been

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02:33:00,280 --> 02:33:04,360
Speaker 2: with me since eleven pm Pacific time on Saturday night.

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02:33:05,240 --> 02:33:09,039
Speaker 2: It would be Mark Ramsey, our technical producer, turning all

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02:33:09,120 --> 02:33:12,560
Speaker 2: the dials, keeping us schooled together. Martin Weis's hardest working

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02:33:12,600 --> 02:33:16,040
Speaker 2: man in rock and roll on the updates tonight. And

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02:33:16,280 --> 02:33:23,080
Speaker 2: Briamuro outstanding eclectic Briamuro stepping up joining the Bernie Fraddle Show.

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02:33:23,120 --> 02:33:26,200
Speaker 2: Great job by everybody. Cannot do the job without the

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02:33:26,240 --> 02:33:32,800
Speaker 2: teamwork and the camaraderie. Appreciate everybody's efforts. Earlier I mentioned

2772
02:33:32,840 --> 02:33:36,040
Speaker 2: that the twenty twenty five College Football Hall of Fame

2773
02:33:36,120 --> 02:33:40,560
Speaker 2: class nominees were announced, seventy seven players, nine coaches. Among

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02:33:40,600 --> 02:33:42,680
Speaker 2: the players was a guy by the name of Manti Teo.

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02:33:43,800 --> 02:33:46,400
Speaker 2: I am sure you remember the name Manti Tayo. Yes,

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02:33:46,480 --> 02:33:51,080
Speaker 2: he last played in the NFL four years ago, but

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02:33:51,240 --> 02:33:55,959
Speaker 2: you may see him back on your TVs soon. According

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02:33:56,000 --> 02:34:01,960
Speaker 2: to Andrew Marshawn of The Athletic you Know, the NFL

2779
02:34:02,080 --> 02:34:05,040
Speaker 2: Network show Good Morning Football has been off the air

2780
02:34:05,120 --> 02:34:09,039
Speaker 2: since March because they're moving from New York to Los Angeles.

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02:34:10,400 --> 02:34:14,000
Speaker 2: Jason mccordy, former New England Patriot, who was one of

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02:34:14,040 --> 02:34:16,360
Speaker 2: the co hosts on the show, is not going to

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02:34:16,400 --> 02:34:20,280
Speaker 2: be making the move to Los Angeles, and so now

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02:34:20,520 --> 02:34:27,440
Speaker 2: NFL Media is having the task to field mccordy spot. So,

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02:34:27,520 --> 02:34:30,320
Speaker 2: according to Marshawn, the NFL network is considering some former

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02:34:30,400 --> 02:34:33,560
Speaker 2: players and Manti Tayo is one of them as a

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02:34:33,600 --> 02:34:38,800
Speaker 2: potential replacement. And apparently Manti Tato really impressed recently during

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02:34:39,200 --> 02:34:43,000
Speaker 2: this boot camp that was put on by NFL Media. Now, look,

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02:34:43,160 --> 02:34:46,360
Speaker 2: Manti Tayo was a very high profile name at Notre

2790
02:34:46,440 --> 02:34:49,760
Speaker 2: Dame and he should be very familiar to football fans

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02:34:49,800 --> 02:34:51,760
Speaker 2: played for the Chargers. He not only was a massive

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02:34:51,800 --> 02:34:54,280
Speaker 2: recruit coming out of high school and again he was

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02:34:54,320 --> 02:34:58,360
Speaker 2: a Heisman Trophy candidate at Notre Dame and he was

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02:34:58,560 --> 02:35:02,920
Speaker 2: at first run draft choice National Football League. But as

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02:35:02,959 --> 02:35:07,360
Speaker 2: you recall, Manti Tale received a lot of widespread attention

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02:35:07,520 --> 02:35:10,560
Speaker 2: for his girlfriend Hoak's story that made national news about

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02:35:10,560 --> 02:35:13,720
Speaker 2: eleven years ago. It was a cat fishing story. It

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02:35:13,840 --> 02:35:18,039
Speaker 2: received more attention in twenty twenty two after Netflix released

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02:35:18,040 --> 02:35:21,040
Speaker 2: a documentary about the matter. And if you're into a

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02:35:21,120 --> 02:35:23,800
Speaker 2: journalistic documentaries. It was one of the most well done,

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02:35:24,360 --> 02:35:27,160
Speaker 2: incredibly compelling, and once you hear his side of the story,

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02:35:27,920 --> 02:35:31,680
Speaker 2: it really changes the dynamic. And what it did was

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02:35:31,879 --> 02:35:36,240
Speaker 2: enabled Manti Tale to go back into the spotlight in

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02:35:36,320 --> 02:35:39,440
Speaker 2: a favorable light. And I think it removed some of

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02:35:39,520 --> 02:35:44,200
Speaker 2: the stigma as the story was aggregated over and over

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02:35:44,400 --> 02:35:46,560
Speaker 2: and made him look worse, but it really wasn't the case.

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02:35:47,360 --> 02:35:50,200
Speaker 2: So good luck to Manti Tao. I think he checks

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02:35:50,240 --> 02:35:52,880
Speaker 2: a lot of boxes, and my gut feels he'd probably

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02:35:52,959 --> 02:35:55,600
Speaker 2: do really well in that role. And hey, it's almost

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02:35:55,640 --> 02:35:57,840
Speaker 2: a promise, folks. I mean, we're fifty three days away

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02:35:57,920 --> 02:36:02,360
Speaker 2: for the first you know, I think the Hall of

2812
02:36:02,400 --> 02:36:05,360
Speaker 2: Fame game. Fifty three days would be the first exhibition game.

2813
02:36:05,879 --> 02:36:07,720
Speaker 2: But we're finishing up OTA's We're going to be in

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02:36:07,800 --> 02:36:10,000
Speaker 2: camp here in mid July, and it'll be upon us

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Speaker 2: before I sign off tonight, though, I want to reiterate

2816
02:36:13,680 --> 02:36:17,800
Speaker 2: because I've made some bold statements about Danny Hurley and

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02:36:17,800 --> 02:36:20,520
Speaker 2: I want to double down and we'll see if there's

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Speaker 2: news by next Friday. I'll be back on these airwaves

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02:36:22,800 --> 02:36:27,040
Speaker 2: next Friday night, of course, eleven pm Pacific to two am,

2820
02:36:27,879 --> 02:36:30,640
Speaker 2: same type of show. Of course, we have the midnight

2821
02:36:30,720 --> 02:36:33,160
Speaker 2: hour at midnight Pacific time where we take your calls.

2822
02:36:33,200 --> 02:36:36,040
Speaker 2: We have several topics, and one of the topics was

2823
02:36:36,480 --> 02:36:40,080
Speaker 2: should Danny Hurley take the job, And by about ninety percent,

2824
02:36:40,200 --> 02:36:43,960
Speaker 2: people voted no, that he really shouldn't. Look I mentioned

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02:36:43,959 --> 02:36:46,320
Speaker 2: it earlier, Chuck Dailey said, coaching in the NBA is

2826
02:36:46,400 --> 02:36:50,200
Speaker 2: like managing an adult daycare center. You know, you teach

2827
02:36:50,280 --> 02:36:53,640
Speaker 2: in college, you manage in the NBA. And Bobby Hurley

2828
02:36:53,680 --> 02:36:55,600
Speaker 2: or Danny Hurley might be an exquisite teacher on the

2829
02:36:55,640 --> 02:36:59,440
Speaker 2: college level. I'm not so sure his act translates to

2830
02:36:59,520 --> 02:37:02,160
Speaker 2: the pro I don't know, it might not. He's already

2831
02:37:02,160 --> 02:37:05,480
Speaker 2: a Yukon legend. You can't improve unhappy. His wife, Andrea,

2832
02:37:05,560 --> 02:37:07,760
Speaker 2: is a Jersey girl. They've only lived in the Northeast.

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02:37:07,800 --> 02:37:10,560
Speaker 2: Moving to LA would be an entirely different planet. The

2834
02:37:10,680 --> 02:37:14,440
Speaker 2: Lakers are a circus. They've had seven coaches since Phil

2835
02:37:14,520 --> 02:37:16,720
Speaker 2: Jackson left, and they've had four. This would be the

2836
02:37:16,800 --> 02:37:20,680
Speaker 2: Lebron's fourth. But I haven't even mentioned the Bronnie James

2837
02:37:20,760 --> 02:37:24,680
Speaker 2: aspect to this. I like Bronni James. I don't know

2838
02:37:24,800 --> 02:37:27,240
Speaker 2: that he's an NBA player, so you're gonna have to

2839
02:37:27,360 --> 02:37:29,800
Speaker 2: manage through all that Michieg gos while trying to put

2840
02:37:29,800 --> 02:37:31,080
Speaker 2: a winner on the floor. And I don't care what

2841
02:37:31,160 --> 02:37:34,640
Speaker 2: anybody says. The Lakers are championship or bust. That's what

2842
02:37:34,760 --> 02:37:37,840
Speaker 2: they want. That's the Lakers standard. Even if you win

2843
02:37:37,920 --> 02:37:40,160
Speaker 2: a championship, but you're not going to be with that roster.

2844
02:37:40,840 --> 02:37:42,879
Speaker 2: Lebron's gonna get all the credit, and if you lose,

2845
02:37:43,000 --> 02:37:45,440
Speaker 2: you're gonna get the you know, I think Darvinham got

2846
02:37:45,480 --> 02:37:49,680
Speaker 2: screwed so and I also gave a lot of receipts

2847
02:37:50,000 --> 02:37:53,000
Speaker 2: about some very good college coaches from Lon Krueger to

2848
02:37:53,080 --> 02:37:56,480
Speaker 2: Billy Donovan to John b Liine who got to the

2849
02:37:56,680 --> 02:37:59,360
Speaker 2: NBA and you know they weren't able to win. There's

2850
02:37:59,400 --> 02:38:01,560
Speaker 2: only one coach in history that did it. That's Larry Brown.

2851
02:38:02,160 --> 02:38:04,800
Speaker 2: So look, I'm of the opinion that when push comes

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02:38:04,879 --> 02:38:09,280
Speaker 2: to shove, Danny Hurley will stay in stores Connecticut. Not

2853
02:38:09,440 --> 02:38:11,200
Speaker 2: to say he might challenge. He might, he might dip

2854
02:38:11,280 --> 02:38:12,960
Speaker 2: his toe in the NBA waters at some point in

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02:38:13,040 --> 02:38:16,480
Speaker 2: his career, but for now, I think he stays in

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02:38:17,280 --> 02:38:20,600
Speaker 2: stores Connecticut. And it goes for the three peet We'll see,

2857
02:38:21,240 --> 02:38:23,400
Speaker 2: I'll eat my words. If I'm wrong, we'll know, we'd

2858
02:38:23,400 --> 02:38:25,920
Speaker 2: probably know by this time next week, and we'll certainly

2859
02:38:25,959 --> 02:38:27,400
Speaker 2: report on it. It's gonna do it for the Bernie

2860
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Speaker 2: Fratter Show. See you next Friday, eleven pm. Keep it

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02:38:30,760 --> 02:38:33,480
Speaker 2: locked up Next the Great Andy Furman on Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio