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Speaker 2: of the show. Are plasmas, living beings, maybe even aliens.
Speaker 2: Have you ever sat around a mesmerizing campfire and wondered, this,
Speaker 2: is it possible that fire is a living thing? I mean,
Speaker 2: it needs oxygen to survive, It needs to consume something
Speaker 2: to survive. It multiplies, it grows, it's born, and then
Speaker 2: it dies. Though it doesn't have a brain. There are
Speaker 2: simple living organisms that do not have brains. Well, fire
Speaker 2: is what we call a plasma. This is a state
Speaker 2: of matter. I'm not talking about plasma and blood or
Speaker 2: something like that. It is actually, believe it or not,
Speaker 2: it's the most common state of matter in the universe.
Speaker 2: It's more uncommon here to us on Earth, and yet
Speaker 2: still very common. For example, a typical flame, a normal
Speaker 2: flame from a candle is a plasma. So is a
Speaker 2: lightning bolt. And let me try to give you a
Speaker 2: better idea of what a plasma is before we dig
Speaker 2: into this whole connection to possible plasma life and alien connections.
Speaker 2: So let's say we have an ice cube. Now, this
Speaker 2: is water and it is in the form of matter
Speaker 2: that we consider solid. Now, if you add a little
Speaker 2: energy to that solid mass, let's say you heat it up, well,
Speaker 2: then it starts to vibrate more and the molecules start
Speaker 2: to break apart and it loosens up and you end
Speaker 2: up with a liquid. Okay, so it's a loosened up
Speaker 2: version of the solid. Now, if you add even more
Speaker 2: energy to it, you continue heating it up. Well, then
Speaker 2: those molecules they'll spread even even further apart, even farther apart,
Speaker 2: and next thing you know, it is a gas. You
Speaker 2: have steam, all right, So you see here. Now it's
Speaker 2: the same substance. It's water, but at one vibration it
Speaker 2: is solid, and then a little more energy turns it
Speaker 2: into a liquid. A little more energy turns it into
Speaker 2: a gas. But here's something special. Once it becomes a gas,
Speaker 2: if you add even more energy to it, well, then
Speaker 2: something extraordinary happens because at that point, so much energy
Speaker 2: has been added that instead of the molecules just spreading
Speaker 2: farther apart, there's so much energy that the atoms begin
Speaker 2: to be affected within the molecules of water, and one
Speaker 2: or more electrons are ripped from each of the atoms.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to get too scientific on you here,
Speaker 2: but basically what you end up with is this free
Speaker 2: floating mass of electrons and atoms that now have a
Speaker 2: positive charge because they're missing electrons, and those are called ions,
Speaker 2: and so basically it's a big, unstable, glowing, magnetically sensitive
Speaker 2: electrical ball of energy. That's basically what we're talking about here,
Speaker 2: And in fact, for those of you who are a
Speaker 2: bit more technically minded, I may as well just touch
Speaker 2: on the official definition here. Plasma comes from the ancient
Speaker 2: Greek word which means moldable substance. One of four fundamental
Speaker 2: states of matter, characterized by the presence of a significant
Speaker 2: portion of charged particles and any combination of ions or electrons.
Speaker 2: As I mentioned, it is the most abundant form of
Speaker 2: ordinary matter in the universe, mostly in stars, including the Sun.
Speaker 2: Plasma can be artificially generated, for example, by heating a
Speaker 2: neutral gas or subjecting it to a strong electromagnetic field.
Speaker 2: Basically what I just said to you, except I tried
Speaker 2: to tell you in simpler terms. All Right, So if
Speaker 2: you see some kind of glowing amorphous mass, the kind
Speaker 2: of thing that we often associate with paranormal phenomena, whether
Speaker 2: it be UFOs or ghosts or similar things. Uh, we're
Speaker 2: talking about something that appears a lot like we would
Speaker 2: we would consider a plasma. Well, recently, Mobias sent me
Speaker 2: this really interesting article from a website called a Nomalien
Speaker 2: dot com, you know, like the words anomalous, an alien,
Speaker 2: A n O M A l I E A Nomalien
Speaker 2: dot com. And the article was written by Jake Carter.
Speaker 2: Says it's titled new research suggests plasma entities might be
Speaker 2: extra terrestrial life. Okay, let's let's see what else they
Speaker 2: have to say about this. In a study that could
Speaker 2: redefine our understanding of extraterrestrial life, researchers have explored the
Speaker 2: possibility that plasmas in the Earth's upper atmosphere might represent
Speaker 2: a form of life or pre life conditions, says The
Speaker 2: research was originally published on research Gate, and it delves
Speaker 2: into the behavior of plasma like entities observed in the thermosphere,
Speaker 2: suggesting these could be more than just physical phenomena, but
Speaker 2: potentially biological or pre biological entities. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: the study was called Extraterrestrial life Plasma's UAP shape shifters, replicans, thunderstorms,
Speaker 2: unidentified ocean phenomena. They have all kinds of sources, including
Speaker 2: stuff from NASA's Space Shuttle missions. There are a number
Speaker 2: of images here showing what appeared to be these sort
Speaker 2: of self illuminating pulsating entities, often referred to as plaids plasmoids,
Speaker 2: which exhibit behavior similar to living organisms. They change shape, velocity,
Speaker 2: they seem to even interact with each other. There may
Speaker 2: be some kind of communication going on there between them,
Speaker 2: and so basically what they're saying is that one of
Speaker 2: these scenarios is that these plasmas could post pre life
Speaker 2: conditions with the potential for self replication. I think of
Speaker 2: it like this. It's almost like you know how that
Speaker 2: your body consists of a physical body and an energy body,
Speaker 2: And you might think that, well, which the physical comes first?
Speaker 2: But how does that make sense? It makes more sense
Speaker 2: to me that the energy body would come first, and
Speaker 2: the energy body would somehow attract the lower denser matter
Speaker 2: to it. This is what we see in symatics. For example,
Speaker 2: when you just have a bunch of evenly randomly distributed
Speaker 2: particles of sand, they're not producing any particular form, but
Speaker 2: then you add an energy form to that sand in
Speaker 2: terms of a sound wave, and of course we know
Speaker 2: that sound waves take on these very particular fixed forms
Speaker 2: three dimensionally, and when there's just that right relationship between
Speaker 2: the sound wave, well, then all of a sudden, the
Speaker 2: bits of matter cluster around it and create the physical form,
Speaker 2: which is a physical representation of the invisible things. So
Speaker 2: is it possible when they say that these could be
Speaker 2: pre hosting pre life conditions, that life begins as some
Speaker 2: kind of an energy form like this, and it's out,
Speaker 2: it is alive already. It's almost like perhaps a giant
Speaker 2: energy amba, but then over time that can evolve into
Speaker 2: a more physical thing, or maybe it always just stays
Speaker 2: in that state and we are looking at another form
Speaker 2: of life that's always been there. They're talking about the
Speaker 2: possibility that these could be part of a quote fourth
Speaker 2: domain of life, distinct from the known categories of bacteria, Archaea,
Speaker 2: and Eukaria, And of course I talked a little bit
Speaker 2: about that on a podcast where I was talking about
Speaker 2: how that all life supposedly originated from this one particular organism.
Speaker 2: I don't know which one that was. But you can
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Speaker 2: varies from platform to platform. But that's how it works
Speaker 2: on that one. When we come back, I'm going to
Speaker 2: dig more into this concept and is it true. Does
Speaker 2: it have a connection to things like the Brown Mountain lights?
Speaker 2: How does it connect to ghost how does it connect
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Speaker 2: dot com. This is a I love this topic, this
Speaker 2: idea that there is somehow life within plasma. And by
Speaker 2: the way, the episode of the show that I was
Speaker 2: thinking of UH episode one ninety four called did All
Speaker 2: Life Come from this One creature? Where I dig into
Speaker 2: the different UH forms of life that scientists categorize everything into. Currently,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I've always been really interested with all of
Speaker 2: these things related to plasmas. And you know, plasmas have
Speaker 2: been fascinating people for a long time. Have you ever
Speaker 2: heard of Saint Elmo's fire? Back in the days of
Speaker 2: seafaring and exploration, oftentimes all of these sailors would be
Speaker 2: way out at sea and a storm would come rolling
Speaker 2: in and they would look up and they would see
Speaker 2: this bluish or greenish glow, this eerie glow all around
Speaker 2: the top masts of the ship, and it freaked them
Speaker 2: out because they said, this is an omen of doom
Speaker 2: or some kind of a warm warning. And it actually
Speaker 2: was a warning because that was the product of electrical
Speaker 2: charges building up around the top of the mass there,
Speaker 2: and so it would cause this glow. Or have you
Speaker 2: heard of will of the win is what some call
Speaker 2: ignis fatus Ignis fatus is Latin. It means fools fire.
Speaker 2: And it's this idea that, especially back in the old
Speaker 2: days when we didn't have artificial lights all over the place,
Speaker 2: sometimes a traveler might see a light in the forest
Speaker 2: or the swamp and foolishly follow it to his or
Speaker 2: her demise, end up getting stuck in quicksand or stepping
Speaker 2: in a hole or falling off a cliff or whatever.
Speaker 2: And this is a light that a lot of people
Speaker 2: say has been caused naturally because of swamp gas you
Speaker 2: know which you know, Methaney King, or in other cases
Speaker 2: it may be an electrostatic phenomenon. In fact, some people
Speaker 2: have claimed that if you see a light in the
Speaker 2: woods over and over at night, there is a treasure
Speaker 2: buried there, which is bad news if it is fool's fire,
Speaker 2: because it's tempting you to go out there. But there
Speaker 2: is some possible truth to that because back in the
Speaker 2: day is when a treasure was a box of metal coins. Well,
Speaker 2: those metal coins can conduct a powerful charge, and there
Speaker 2: might be some type of electrical charge that builds up
Speaker 2: around that spot because of the coins there, when the
Speaker 2: atmospheric conditions are just right. By the way, do you
Speaker 2: know why that has been called will of the wisp?
Speaker 2: This is a good trivia question for you. You probably
Speaker 2: know what a will of the wisp is, but why
Speaker 2: is it called that? Well, the term comes from well,
Speaker 2: the word wisp, which is a bundle of sticks or
Speaker 2: paper sometimes used as a torch. And the name will
Speaker 2: just like willpower, thus meaning will of the torch, and
Speaker 2: of course you firb me tell this story about the
Speaker 2: jack O lantern, you know, stingy Jack. And some people
Speaker 2: say that that's a will of the wisp phenomenon, spook lights,
Speaker 2: ghost lights, various types of orbs and whatnot. But there
Speaker 2: is this whole history and tradition of people following these
Speaker 2: things around, and we know that there is this incredible
Speaker 2: amount of plasma activity in the upper atmosphere. These are
Speaker 2: often called elves e l v ees, which means emission
Speaker 2: of light and very low frequency perturbations due to electromagnetic
Speaker 2: pulse sources. Yeah, you can tell a scientist came up
Speaker 2: with that. But you get all of these bizarre, truly
Speaker 2: beautiful psychedelic things that look almost like glowing jellyfish in
Speaker 2: the sky and sometimes well they prefer to call them tlees,
Speaker 2: which means transient luminous event. They happen most often during thunderstorms.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they're called sprites or ghosts or jets. They are
Speaker 2: all of these interesting names that scientists have given to them.
Speaker 2: Red sprites, blue jets. Go if you've never done this
Speaker 2: before and you want to see what I'm talking about,
Speaker 2: just go online and look up just to go to
Speaker 2: the Wikipedia page for upper atmospheric lightning and just look
Speaker 2: at some of these pictures. These crazy things have been
Speaker 2: seen since the dawn of time really to some extent,
Speaker 2: but now you know, we see them much more frequently
Speaker 2: since we're up there traveling through space. But you know,
Speaker 2: all of this, of course ties into the Brown Mountain
Speaker 2: lights that I have discussed so many times. I'm talking about,
Speaker 2: of course, the phenomenon in western North Carolina that's been
Speaker 2: going on for hundreds of years. And you have this
Speaker 2: low lying mountain out in the Pisga National Forest, and
Speaker 2: for all of these decades, people have been seeing these
Speaker 2: multicolored balls of light and similar shapes of light moving
Speaker 2: on and around this ridge at night. Sometimes they almost
Speaker 2: seem to ooze around the mountain. If you've never seen
Speaker 2: this before, go to Brown Mountain Lights dot com. That's
Speaker 2: one of my websites. It needs to be updated, but
Speaker 2: there's good information there, Brown Mountain Lights dot com. And
Speaker 2: you know, for well as far back as I know
Speaker 2: of recorded reports, there were people always speculating that when
Speaker 2: you would see the Brown Mountain lights moving around Brown
Speaker 2: Mountain at night in the distance, that those lights were
Speaker 2: living beings. That you could perhaps even communicate with them.
Speaker 2: You could flash something like a flashlight at them, and
Speaker 2: sometimes they would blink back you and you could almost
Speaker 2: form a type of communication with them. There was a
Speaker 2: guy named Ralph Lel who claimed that he could do this,
Speaker 2: and I can't tell you how many people believe that
Speaker 2: those are living plasmas. And then, of course when people
Speaker 2: see ghosts, they talk about ghosts having these sort of
Speaker 2: luminous erratic forms, kind of fluctuating, drifting around. And you
Speaker 2: know that typical idea of that glowing ghost with that
Speaker 2: striking shade of color to it. It's what you think
Speaker 2: of as a plasma. And you know what's funny. In
Speaker 2: my laboratory on many many years ago, I started doing this.
Speaker 2: I would take electrostatic charges and I would create these
Speaker 2: plasmas that look like these big ghostly forms of light.
Speaker 2: And then I would go out to places where people
Speaker 2: said they were seeing ghosts, haunted houses, and guess what
Speaker 2: I would find these powerful electrostatic charges at the supposedly
Speaker 2: most haunted spot. Is there a connection there? Is it
Speaker 2: that the bodies of spiritual beings manifest sometimes as plasma forms,
Speaker 2: So are plasma forms? Sometimes the bodies of both conscious
Speaker 2: and unconscious spiritual beings, for example, both imprints and entities.
Speaker 2: And you know, because when it comes to ghosts, sometimes
Speaker 2: you have a ghost that's not like a mindless recording
Speaker 2: that's trapped. And then sometimes you have a ghost and
Speaker 2: we call that an imprint. And then sometimes you have
Speaker 2: a ghost that seems to be aware and unpredictable and interactive,
Speaker 2: and that's what we call an entity. But they both
Speaker 2: often appear with this glow around them. So it may
Speaker 2: be that this plasma is just the medium by which
Speaker 2: these types of otherwise invisible forms are able to temporarily appear.
Speaker 2: So are plasmas. Sometimes aliens are, and are some aliens
Speaker 2: appearing as as plasmas? You know, I have there's an
Speaker 2: Instagram page. We have a new Instagram page for my show,
Speaker 2: It's just Joshua P. Warren Podcast, And I posted a
Speaker 2: meme there recently, which I think says a lot. Not
Speaker 2: believing in existence of aliens is like taking a spoonful
Speaker 2: of water from an ocean and saying there is no
Speaker 2: shark in the ocean because there is none in my spoon.
Speaker 2: There's some logic to that. Me thinks there is there's
Speaker 2: some logic to that, and it has a lot to
Speaker 2: do with humbling yourself and realizing just how big the
Speaker 2: universe actually is.
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Speaker 2: So what is my conclusion at this point about this possibility. Well,
Speaker 2: when we come back, I'm going to give you that,
Speaker 2: and then we're going to shift into what's kind of
Speaker 2: some breaking news. I believe this is the first time
Speaker 2: anybody is going to hear about this. My friend, who
Speaker 2: is an engineer, Silicon Valley engineer named Ronald Heath, has
Speaker 2: just created a new experiment that may help us understand
Speaker 2: more about what some call the Mandela effect. Yeah, how
Speaker 2: do you do an experiment to prove or disprove the
Speaker 2: Mandela effects? It's a good one. I'm Joshua Pee Warren.
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Speaker 2: and this is the show where the unusual becomes usual.
Speaker 2: I have always thought that there was something about many
Speaker 2: of these UFOs, these uap that looked like living creatures,
Speaker 2: like big micro organisms flying around in the sky. In fact,
Speaker 2: I did an award winning short film about this, a
Speaker 2: documentary called oh UFOs a New Discovery. If you want
Speaker 2: to watch it for free, go to Joshua Pwarren dot
Speaker 2: com and you'll see a section at the top called
Speaker 2: Gallery of the Strange. Well, there's a lot of weird
Speaker 2: stuff there. As you can imagine. All's just free stuff
Speaker 2: anybody can access. And there's one heading that says, oh
Speaker 2: UFO's Organic UFO's Report. If you haven't seen this or
Speaker 2: you don't know about it. Go check it out. But
Speaker 2: all right, so how am I concluding? How am I
Speaker 2: reconciling all of this stuff here that I've been going over. Well,
Speaker 2: i'll tell you here's my conclusion right now. Is plasma
Speaker 2: a living thing? Well that's an easy one for me,
Speaker 2: because yes, in my opinion, I've come to believe that
Speaker 2: all things contain a living spirit, even a rock. Maybe
Speaker 2: that sounds crazy to you, but that's what I've come
Speaker 2: to conclude. Basically, if it vibrates, if it's above absolute zero,
Speaker 2: I think everything contains a living spirit to some degree. Now,
Speaker 2: the extent of consciousness or self awareness is debatable, but
Speaker 2: all things are somehow living part of one gigantic living creation.
Speaker 2: And you know, don't forget most of the world is
Speaker 2: invisible to you. You don't believe me. You need proof? Well,
Speaker 2: that's easy. Have you ever seen a magnet? I mean,
Speaker 2: how does that work? You take a magnet, you hold
Speaker 2: it toward another magnet, and they either fly through the
Speaker 2: air and stick together or they push apart. It's I mean,
Speaker 2: that's that's magical Jedi power stuff. Jason Saraci sent me
Speaker 2: a video interesting that's just fascinating about something called magnetic locking,
Speaker 2: and you can spin a magnet to create levitation. So
Speaker 2: let me try to explain this for you, and this
Speaker 2: is legit. You can take a drill or a spinning
Speaker 2: tool like a drimal tool and glue a little magnet
Speaker 2: to the tip and then turn it on to spin
Speaker 2: that magnet at a high speed. And then if you
Speaker 2: hold that toward an identical magnet, say the one that
Speaker 2: you just have sitting on a table, well then it'll
Speaker 2: start spinning and eventually the two will lock into place,
Speaker 2: but they will not connect. So basically, that second magnet
Speaker 2: is going to be levitating in front of the first magnet,
Speaker 2: and at that point you can just move that drimble
Speaker 2: all around and that second magnet will follow it, just
Speaker 2: levitating off the tip about an inch away. It's wild.
Speaker 2: It reminds me of how you might think of flying
Speaker 2: saucers sometimes spinning in the sky. I think there may
Speaker 2: be a connection on YouTube if you want to see this,
Speaker 2: go to YouTube. There's a great channel called the Action Lab.
Speaker 2: It's a very reputable physics channel, the Action Lab, and
Speaker 2: there's a video look up this title Magnetic locking without
Speaker 2: a superconductor, Magnetic locking without a superconductor. Check that out.
Speaker 2: But you know, ghosts are usually considered to be from
Speaker 2: the past, and then sometimes we have stories about ghosts
Speaker 2: from the future. But time always seems to be this
Speaker 2: essential element, right, And you've heard me talk about the
Speaker 2: Mandela effect. As a matter of fact, one of my
Speaker 2: early shows was about the Mandela effect. Show episode number
Speaker 2: eight of Strange Things was called the Mandela Effect and
Speaker 2: a New Time Warp Report. If you haven't heard episode eight,
Speaker 2: go check it out. This is a good example of
Speaker 2: why I told you that if you go to the
Speaker 2: iHeart app there should be some arrows there, little arrows,
Speaker 2: and you can click them to either start with show
Speaker 2: number one or to start with the latest show. And
Speaker 2: you'd want to go back and start with show number
Speaker 2: one and then scroll to show show number eight to
Speaker 2: find this anyway, the Mandela effect is this idea that somehow,
Speaker 2: occasionally the timelines change that some people say they will
Speaker 2: swear to you that the Fruit of the Loom logo
Speaker 2: used to have a cornicopia on it, and Fruit of
Speaker 2: the Loom says, nope, never was, it never happened. Some
Speaker 2: people will swear the monopoly guy had a monocle and
Speaker 2: he doesn't anymore, and people say, Nope, he never had
Speaker 2: a monocle. It's that kind of thing. And this has
Speaker 2: been controversial for a long time. And my friend Ronald Heath,
Speaker 2: who lives in California, he worked in Silicon Valley. He's
Speaker 2: a brilliant engineer. He is the guy who invented the
Speaker 2: DT meter, what some call the time warp meter, that
Speaker 2: I use to find what is considered the Vegas time warp.
Speaker 2: And he has a laboratory and you wouldn't believe the
Speaker 2: stuff this guy comes up with. Well, he wrote me
Speaker 2: an email recently and he said, check this out. I
Speaker 2: have this experiment called a time propagation experiment. He's trying
Speaker 2: to demonstrate that something like the Mandela effect might exist.
Speaker 2: And I'm going to apologize to ron right now in
Speaker 2: advance if I don't explain this properly. But basically, he
Speaker 2: is trying to see if we can document the idea
Speaker 2: that sometimes an event that happened in the past is
Speaker 2: altered and suddenly it alters what we experience here on
Speaker 2: the present. Here's part of what he wrote to me
Speaker 2: in an email. For a long time, there have been
Speaker 2: reports of people who could spiritually step out of normal
Speaker 2: time and see all of time spread out at once.
Speaker 2: Mainstream science recognizes the block theory as being possible. This
Speaker 2: says that all of time exists at once, like a
Speaker 2: book where we are continually turning the pages to travel
Speaker 2: forward through time. Some people say that everything is fixed
Speaker 2: and does not change, that our decisions will be made
Speaker 2: the same way because the future is fixed. Time could
Speaker 2: not be fixed if we have free will, and he says,
Speaker 2: I'll ignore a multiverse. The question is do people in
Speaker 2: the past have free will also, and how would it
Speaker 2: change propagate through time from the past to the present.
Speaker 2: He says, take for example the Mandela effect. All right,
Speaker 2: so he says, suppose we create a problem for the universe.
Speaker 2: A computer will take a picture of a block of
Speaker 2: wood with thirty years worth of visible tree rings. Now,
Speaker 2: if the weather were to be different, or on person
Speaker 2: in the past decides to light a campfire one year
Speaker 2: or whatever, will one or more of the tree rings
Speaker 2: will be different. If the computer stores a new picture
Speaker 2: every ten seconds, there will be a difference between the
Speaker 2: present picture and the picture taken in the past. The
Speaker 2: problem is the update rate. If the universe updates all
Speaker 2: of time to conform to the new change instantly and perfectly. Well,
Speaker 2: the present picture will always be the same as the
Speaker 2: past picture. If the changes propagate through time at a
Speaker 2: rate that is slower than instantaneous, there should be differences
Speaker 2: in the pictures. It seems unlikely that the universe would
Speaker 2: change the computer memory of the picture that was just
Speaker 2: taken so that it would match the picture that was
Speaker 2: taken in the past. Well, now, I understand if you're
Speaker 2: scratching your brain here a little bit, all right, But
Speaker 2: basically what he's saying is, all right, I got this block,
Speaker 2: who would It's got thirty years worth of rings on it,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to set this thing up so that
Speaker 2: every ten seconds this is photographed, and I want to
Speaker 2: see if these tree rings significantly shift at some point,
Speaker 2: because something may have changed in the past when it
Speaker 2: comes to the conditions of the tree. All right, And
Speaker 2: so he's sure enough. He did this. He set this
Speaker 2: whole thing up, he made a video about it, and
Speaker 2: he did actually a very good job. The video explains
Speaker 2: it better than I just did. And he put this
Speaker 2: whole system together, and he's sure enough. He found that
Speaker 2: there were these differences between the first picture of the
Speaker 2: tree rings and some of the subsequent pictures. Now, of course,
Speaker 2: there are a lot of questions here. I mean, for example,
Speaker 2: one is you know, could this could? Is there another
Speaker 2: explanation than jumping to the timelines changing? You know, is
Speaker 2: there something that has happened in the environment where the
Speaker 2: wood is stormed that either the focus or the lighting,
Speaker 2: or the weather or the humidity is changing the wood
Speaker 2: in some way. That's certainly a more likely explanation, one
Speaker 2: might argue than to say, well, you're jumping to the
Speaker 2: proof of the timeline is changing. And if you want
Speaker 2: to see this video for yourself, go to YouTube. There's
Speaker 2: a channel called Ronald Heath and he has this video.
Speaker 2: And Heath is called h. E. A. T H. He
Speaker 2: has this video called time Propagation Experiment with Evidence for
Speaker 2: dynamic block theory. Yeah, he's a scientist. Time propagation experiment
Speaker 2: with evidence for dynamic block theory. Also is the simplest
Speaker 2: thing is go to his website. It is r H
Speaker 2: Webco r Hwebco rhwebco dot com and there you'll find
Speaker 2: a link to not only the video, but also all
Speaker 2: of his data files and just he does his best
Speaker 2: to explain what he's thinking but then he also goes
Speaker 2: into depth, giving all the technical stats. He's looking for
Speaker 2: somebody else who wants to reproduce something like this. Now,
Speaker 2: is he on the right track? What do you think
Speaker 2: about this? Is it possible that guys like him might
Speaker 2: actually document something like this Mandela effect in a scientific
Speaker 2: objective way. When we come back from this break, I'm
Speaker 2: going to tell you, well, I sent this out to
Speaker 2: some colleagues, and I'm gonna tell you what one of
Speaker 2: my colleagues said about this. He brings up a very
Speaker 2: interesting point. And then I think I'm gonna maybe try
Speaker 2: to get into at least one or two funny stories,
Speaker 2: maybe some told Manna some stuff that's happened recently here
Speaker 2: in Vegas. I'm Joshua pe Warren, and you're listening to
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Speaker 2: Warren, Welcome back to the final segment of this edition
Speaker 2: of Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast
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Speaker 2: And Yeah, it's a great question, isn't it. Is it
Speaker 2: possible to do an experiment to document something similar to
Speaker 2: the Mandela effect. I took the experimental evidence that Ronald
Speaker 2: Heath has so far. I sent it to some colleagues.
Speaker 2: One of my colleagues wrote back, interesting experiment. It reminds
Speaker 2: me of the Schrodinger's cat thought experiment, but with an observer.
Speaker 2: The observer will have an effect on the outcome. As
Speaker 2: for proving the Mandela effect, if the phenomena still follows
Speaker 2: its protocol, the baseline photo will also change. And this
Speaker 2: person is a big believer in the Mandela effect, by
Speaker 2: the way, But that kind of goes back to this
Speaker 2: question that I think Ronald Heath brought up. So if
Speaker 2: the Mandela effect changes, if the whole timeline changes instantly,
Speaker 2: then that means that the original photo should also change
Speaker 2: to match the new photo, meaning that it should there
Speaker 2: should be no way of proving there was a change.
Speaker 2: And if that's the case, does that mean that there
Speaker 2: is actually no way to ever prove the Mandela effect,
Speaker 2: because that to do so would mean that somehow you
Speaker 2: could overcome the ultimate timeline change. And no. I guess
Speaker 2: what that means is that the Mandel effect is something
Speaker 2: that can only be experienced in one's memory. There's no
Speaker 2: way of objectively studying it. If if it changes all
Speaker 2: elements of the universe, including the tools and conditions used
Speaker 2: to document it, there there's nothing to compare it to.
Speaker 2: I know this is kind of deep, but as Ron
Speaker 2: was also saying, well, what if it doesn't happen instantaneously,
Speaker 2: if the changes propagate at a slower rate, maybe almost
Speaker 2: like ice crystals that form and have to branch out,
Speaker 2: then maybe there is a period of time when you
Speaker 2: can document a difference. But it just depends on how
Speaker 2: it works. So look, I don't know what to think
Speaker 2: of this, but I'm presenting it to you. I hope
Speaker 2: you go to Ron's website urhwebc dot com. If you're
Speaker 2: interested in this kind of stuff. Maybe you'll have some
Speaker 2: great ideas and you and Ron can talk about this
Speaker 2: and you'll come up with some experiment for yourself. But
Speaker 2: you know, this is the kind of stuff that you're
Speaker 2: probably not going to hear about any other place than
Speaker 2: here on strange things. We pride ourselves on trying to
Speaker 2: bring these complex and often obscure experiments to your ears.
Speaker 2: But it does raise some great questions, doesn't it about
Speaker 2: free will in general, and how we live our lives,
Speaker 2: and you know, how to view things like time and
Speaker 2: aging and the impact that you may or may not
Speaker 2: have on your own future. I guess if we have
Speaker 2: free will, that's why it's good to be motivated somehow
Speaker 2: to stay healthy and feel good as long as you can.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we always talk about how bad
Speaker 2: it is to be vain, but sometimes I think maybe
Speaker 2: vanity is not always that bad. I mean, you look
Speaker 2: at these actors like Harrison Ford, who's probably like the
Speaker 2: best shape of any eighty some year old guy in
Speaker 2: the world, and I, you know, and I think, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe if I were more vain, like an actor, then
Speaker 2: I would be more motivated to go out and take
Speaker 2: better care of myself and exercise and eat right and
Speaker 2: all that. I recently have been having some shoulder pain
Speaker 2: and on my right shoulder with like the rhomboid. I
Speaker 2: don't know what's causing it, and I have been able
Speaker 2: to find a cream or anything that helps. So, but
Speaker 2: somebody said you need to try acupuncture. I go, I've
Speaker 2: never done that. But I got online and I was
Speaker 2: going to look up acupuncture stuff and I found that
Speaker 2: what they call it an acu pin on Amazon was
Speaker 2: only like ten bucks. It's just like a pin. And
Speaker 2: they say, yeah, you get this and it's gonna you
Speaker 2: stick it on this meridian and it's gonna help it.
Speaker 2: And I go, okay, great, So I ordered it that
Speaker 2: it came the next day. I take it out of
Speaker 2: the box and read the instructions. How is this going
Speaker 2: to help my shoulder? And it says rub this on
Speaker 2: your foot and I said, come on, this is real pain,
Speaker 2: not some bs. I don't think rubbing this on my
Speaker 2: foot is gonna help my shoulder. But I did it. No,
Speaker 2: it didn't help my shoulder. So I'm going to use
Speaker 2: my Apex wishing machine. And here's how I'm going to
Speaker 2: set it up. I'm not going to say, make my
Speaker 2: pain go away, oh, great machine. No, I'm gonna say,
Speaker 2: show me how to make my pain go away? What
Speaker 2: do I need to do? This is a good example
Speaker 2: of how to experiment with wishing machines. You don't expect
Speaker 2: the machine to magically make something happen directly from God.
Speaker 2: You ask it to help provide an opportunity for you
Speaker 2: to solve your problem. God helps those who help themselves.
Speaker 2: I mean, we would all go to a wishing machine
Speaker 2: and just write on a piece of paper, make me
Speaker 2: an immortal, healthy, happy God. But that's not realistic. So,
Speaker 2: I mean, you can use wishing machines to help you
Speaker 2: find the solution to specific problems, but you know, some
Speaker 2: things are inevitable. I recently was reading the Edgar Allen
Speaker 2: post story The Mask of the Red Death. It's a
Speaker 2: short story published in eighteen forty two, and basically, there
Speaker 2: is this plague known as the Red Death that sweeping
Speaker 2: the land, and there's this Prince Prospero and he's scared.
Speaker 2: Obviously he doesn't want this Red Death, and he's hiding
Speaker 2: in his abbey, which is, you know, sort of like
Speaker 2: a monastery there, and he's got other wealthy people. They're
Speaker 2: all held there and they're trying to enjoy themselves. So
Speaker 2: why like to have a masquerade ball? And in the
Speaker 2: midst of all this, some mysterious figure appears and nobody's
Speaker 2: sure who the figure is, and the figures he's wearing
Speaker 2: a cloak and everything, and so anyway, eventually they confront
Speaker 2: this figure and they find that when they pull this
Speaker 2: costume away that there's nothing inside. It's just empty. And
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden they all get the red
Speaker 2: death and die, and people scholars are like, what does
Speaker 2: this mean? What is the meaning of this? Well, I
Speaker 2: think it means that you can try to fight death
Speaker 2: all you want, but there ultimately there's nothing to fight.
Speaker 2: It's a ghost, and you can't fight a ghost, so
Speaker 2: to speak. So to a certain extent, no matter what
Speaker 2: you do, you have to accept certain realities. There's nothing
Speaker 2: you can do about it. That's how death works, especially
Speaker 2: something like a plague, especially in the days when they
Speaker 2: knew nothing about how to fight these these micro organisms
Speaker 2: and stuff. So that's you know, that may seem like
Speaker 2: a depressing thing, but it's not depressing because that means
Speaker 2: it should inspire you to have a good, loving relationship
Speaker 2: with everyone while you're here, be nice, enjoy your life.
Speaker 2: The other day, so I was looking up I got
Speaker 2: some ad like, do you know how many people choke
Speaker 2: to death? You need this choking device? And I said, yeah,
Speaker 2: I do. I guess. So I got online. Now I
Speaker 2: was looking up choking devices and they all had good reviews.
Speaker 2: And then I realized, well, everybody who choked to death
Speaker 2: would have left a bad review. That's a bad joke.
Speaker 2: But anyway, look, sometimes it's good to do things that
Speaker 2: you really enjoy that remind you you're not dead yet.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's good to remind yourself you're not dead yet.
Speaker 2: We are spirits trapped in this material world. And a
Speaker 2: listener asked me one time, what do I mean when
Speaker 2: I say the Golden Rule? A lot of young people
Speaker 2: listen to the show, and I take for granted they
Speaker 2: may or may not know, and the Golden rule is
Speaker 2: the single best guideline by which to live your life.
Speaker 2: Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you. Well,
Speaker 2: let me fit into mental manner. Funny little story. I
Speaker 2: used to do this segment called It's time to make
Speaker 2: My Wife Mad. And the problem is I had to
Speaker 2: stop doing it because it actually worked and it did
Speaker 2: make my wife mad. It's a good thing I'm not
Speaker 2: a stand up comedian because I would be like, you
Speaker 2: cannot watch any of my shows, for example, take my
Speaker 2: wife no, please take my wife anyway. So you know,
Speaker 2: occasionally I bet on stuff here in Las Vegas, and
Speaker 2: I bet on sports, and I bet on a sports
Speaker 2: game recently, and halfway through my team was losing, and
Speaker 2: I said to Lauren, oh, I bet this much on
Speaker 2: this team. And it's halfway through and they're losing, and
Speaker 2: she goes. She looks at me, and she goes, oh,
Speaker 2: can you change your bet? Now? If you're into gambling,
Speaker 2: you appreciate the humor in that. I said. That would
Speaker 2: that'd be the most popular casino in the world, wouldn't
Speaker 2: it if you could change your bet. You just that's
Speaker 2: like putting your money into the slot machine and then
Speaker 2: you put your hundred bucks in and you lose it
Speaker 2: all and then you go to the casino. Hey, can
Speaker 2: I have that back? Please? Pretty please? I wish it
Speaker 2: worked that way if I ever opened up a casino,
Speaker 2: that will give you that ability that it will be
Speaker 2: super popular. All Right, my friends, the clock has goddess.
Speaker 2: Take a deep breath if you can close your eyes,
Speaker 2: but either way, relax and meditate on the good fortune tongue.
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