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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, welcome back to I Do par two. It's

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Speaker 1: your celebrity mentor Jenfessler, and today I'm going to be

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Speaker 1: breaking down and reacting to some of the latest headlines

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Speaker 1: in the world of divorce with my producer Heather.

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Speaker 2: Hey lady, Hi Jen, how are you? Hi?

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Speaker 1: Heather? So, Heather is my right arm, right hand, right

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Speaker 1: hand all things off screen, and today she is my

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Speaker 1: partner on screen, which I'm actually very excited about. I

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Speaker 1: want to hear your takes on this stuff, my friend.

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Speaker 2: These are some wild stories. I'm ready.

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Speaker 1: We really are you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah yeah. We're talking to you guys about the

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Speaker 1: mess that has become some of these celebrity divorces. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe it helps people to hear about

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Speaker 1: this and their own divorces or they all seem messy, right,

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Speaker 1: every one of us, all of us I Do Part twos,

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Speaker 1: have been through nothing. I've never heard of anything being

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Speaker 1: really easy in terms of divorce or you know, death

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Speaker 1: or even in my case, separation. But these celebrity ones

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Speaker 1: are good. They're juicy, and they're messy and you know,

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Speaker 1: sad in a lot of cases, right for sure.

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Speaker 2: But you know what, I think that sometimes, right. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I haven't been through divorce myself, but I think you

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Speaker 2: do have to go through a bit of that storm

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Speaker 2: before you can get to maybe some of that you know, nicer,

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Speaker 2: happier endings. And I think we're going to get to

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Speaker 2: some of those stories today too. There's some that are

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Speaker 2: a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Hopeful, some uplifting ones as well, right, definitely, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have friends that always say like, divorce is so underrated.

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Speaker 1: These are my friends, of course, that have now had

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Speaker 1: some time in separation from the divorce. But even like

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Speaker 1: with younger kids, being able to sort of feel like

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Speaker 1: your kids are in a safe place'll have some time

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Speaker 1: on your own. But that's another episode. So let's just

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Speaker 1: dive right in. Let's talk about Scott Wolf. You're too young,

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Speaker 1: I think, Heather, did you watch Party of Five?

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Speaker 2: Listen? I did watch some Party of Five when I

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Speaker 2: was growing up. It was a little bit more on

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Speaker 2: the dramatic side. But I think Scott Wolf made appearances

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Speaker 2: on some other shows that I used to watch back

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Speaker 2: in the nineties, for sure, so I definitely know.

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Speaker 1: I was in love with him. Yeah, Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: so cute. So I guess recently, pretty recently him and

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Speaker 1: his soon to be ex wife, Kelly, announced that they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this has been drama since the get go. If

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Speaker 2: anybody's been following this story, obviously we know that there

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Speaker 2: was a police called to the house. There was I

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Speaker 2: believe she was detained for a period of time. So

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Speaker 2: it's just gotten a little bit bumpier week by week.

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Speaker 2: But tell everybody about kind of what's going on right now,

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Speaker 2: the latest this story.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so I guess Kelly was dropped by her

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Speaker 1: own attorney, right. She was making some accusations against Scott

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Speaker 1: and that, you know, according to him, of course, are unfounded.

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Speaker 1: And we are not in the room with her attorney

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Speaker 1: and all that. Obviously their communications are privileged. So I

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Speaker 1: guess it's up to us to sort of guess what

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Speaker 1: happened there. But it's on the heels of her making

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well it says here. It says on on Monday,

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Speaker 2: August nineteenth, the Utah judge presiding over the divorce granted

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Speaker 2: emotion brought by Kelly's attorney, Farah Spencer, to withdraw her

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Speaker 2: as her representation. The judge said that Farah and her

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Speaker 2: law firm are permitted to withdraw as counsel of record

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Speaker 2: for Kelly effect immediately, and are relieved of any and

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Speaker 2: all future duties and responsibilities for Kelly in this case. So,

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Speaker 2: you know, obviously, like you were saying, we don't know

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Speaker 2: all the details on why this, you know, went into motion,

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Speaker 2: but I don't know what kind of sign it is

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Speaker 2: when you're divorce attorney, he as a client, like, I

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Speaker 1: Sketchy doesn't seem good? Well, I know. Also I believe

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Speaker 1: her allegations had to do with his parenting, right and

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Speaker 1: correct me if I'm on he has the kids, right.

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Speaker 2: I think that right now he does.

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Speaker 1: If we're wrong in any of this, you guys, please

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Speaker 2: Things are definitely changing with the wind on this one.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, there's a lot of mudslinging going on right now.

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Speaker 2: You know, Kelly's been going to social media posting a

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Speaker 2: So we're getting pieces of this situation. One thing's for sure,

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Speaker 2: it's not going well. I think it is very what

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Speaker 1: Well, she's also Heather. She's a life coach, right.

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Speaker 2: You know what. I actually remember Kelly from back when

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Speaker 2: she was on reality TV, back in the day she

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Speaker 2: used to be. She was on MTV The Real World.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I hope you guys, if you're listening to

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Speaker 1: real world. If not, thank you for listening. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what I would have interesting to say to you,

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Speaker 2: But it's it's strangers if we're if we're really less correct,

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Speaker 2: excuse me, right, strangers pick to live together.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it was cool.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of what I remember Kelly being from. And

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Speaker 2: you know, up until this time, I would say she

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Speaker 1: Scott, but I think she was. I do think I

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Speaker 1: remember reading she was a life coach. It's interesting. It's like,

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Speaker 1: what does these expression therapists heal thyself or doctor heal thyself?

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Speaker 1: You know. I mean, I think you can have distance

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Speaker 1: from something like you can tell I certainly make a

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Speaker 1: million mistakes and tell my kids do as I say,

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Speaker 1: not as I do. So even though I know, you know,

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Speaker 1: this mess. But we wish them certainly all the best.

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Speaker 1: It's just a reminder of how ugly this can get.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. Scott actually released a statement on the fifteenth,

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Speaker 2: telling you People magazine that he is continuing to hope

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Speaker 2: that to have most of this difficult chapter of his

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Speaker 1: Like this agreed, Well, yes, I would think that everyone

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Speaker 1: would agree with that. Speaking of contentious and kids and messy,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about Kim Zolesiak and Corey Beerman.

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Speaker 2: I'm actually really interested to hear your perspective on this one,

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Speaker 2: obviously being from the Bravo verse just right out the gate.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever met Kim before or do you know

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Speaker 1: No, I've never met Kim. I've been watching him for

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Speaker 2: Of course, their wedding, their.

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Speaker 1: Wedding, but that's their wedding. Like she saw him and

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Speaker 1: she was like, okay, I think this. She didn't use

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Speaker 2: I do remember this, And I also, I don't know

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Speaker 1: That's if she asked him out first or something.

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Speaker 2: When they got married, do you remember that she painted

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Speaker 1: Her body and had.

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Speaker 2: I will never forget that photo shoot that.

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Speaker 1: She My god, that's so funny.

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Speaker 2: I remember it was definitely a love story, hot and heavy.

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Speaker 2: It really was July fast in the beginning. I think

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Speaker 2: they both agree with that. But it's just gone again,

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Speaker 2: him for many kind of what's what's like them?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Well again, like and I haven't met Kim, but

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Speaker 1: I met three nights ago. I met Arianna. I was

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Speaker 1: you guys, you know you read stuff, you see stuff

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Speaker 1: Brielle right there? From there, they Corey adopted them, right,

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Speaker 1: documents about they're really what seems to be their kind

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Speaker 1: of never ending divorce. Yeah, they have four kids, right,

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Speaker 1: he is Croy has been exhibiting erratic behavior, that Kroy's

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Speaker 1: obsession with her has led him to survey surveilling the residence.

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Speaker 1: Why can I say surveilling survailing the residence of a

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Speaker 1: It sounds like the Genshaw and the monica of it all.

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Speaker 2: been in a very long term marriage. Yeah, do you

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Speaker 2: right now? Do you think they need better mediation? Do

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Speaker 2: you think they should be, you know, enlisting the help

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Speaker 1: So obviously just my opinion. So I feel like this

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Speaker 2: I was going to say that, I hear that a lot.

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Speaker 1: I think that it's sometimes harder if one person is

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Speaker 1: Do you remember that.

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Speaker 2: That's during the divorce.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that is important. You bring up

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Speaker 2: So people need to get a little bit out of

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Speaker 2: So I love that Jen saying get a prenup. I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: I mean you say asset, I think of again, of

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't plan on having being divorced at

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Speaker 1: With my friends. You know a lot of whom obviously

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Speaker 1: So here's a sad state of affairs, really sad. Kelly

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Speaker 1: both died soon after their husbands passed. And they talked

434
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,439
Speaker 1: so nicely about their husbands, and they were my They

435
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: weren't trying to impress me. I knew the relationships they

436
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: were my grandparents, But I think sometimes the finality right

437
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: of death like that. And I don't know if this

438
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: is what's going on for Kelly, but you look back

439
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 1: and you think I would have done things differently. I

440
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: would have said things differently. Maybe I would have been

441
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: more gentle, maybe I would have been more empathetic. And again,

442
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: I don't know that's what Kelly's going through, but what

443
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: she's saying is reminding me of this like feeling of that.

444
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: I think both my grandmothers had that. They were so

445
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: hard on my grandfather's and there was nothing looking back,

446
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: there was nothing they could do to fix it. And

447
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: I think they both felt guilty about their partner. My

448
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 1: grandfathers were not saints, so there's that. But I feel

449
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: for Kelly Clarkson because she's carrying around, you know, that

450
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: guilt and feeling like the stress contributed to the cancer.

451
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: It's a hard thing to live with, right.

452
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I listen. I think this whole situation is overall

453
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 2: really sad.

454
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: Right.

455
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 2: They have, like you said, they had gone through a

456
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 2: difficult divorce a couple of years ago, and they have

457
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 2: two kids, you know, River eleven and son Remington, who's nine,

458
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 2: so you know, and this is all right, We don't

459
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 2: have any direct fact. This is just being reported right

460
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 2: now in the press that you know, although the timing

461
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 2: could be purely coincidental. This source says that Kelly knows

462
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 2: how much tension the divorce and the lawsuits put on them,

463
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 2: and they're saying that she's not blaming herself, but the

464
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 2: emphasize that she is conscious that the double whammy of

465
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 2: the divorce and the fact that he had to repay

466
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 2: her millions of dollars was very tough on him, and

467
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 2: it really brought up for me personally. I really appreciate

468
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 2: you sharing your insight in with your family. For me,

469
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 2: my parents were divorced when I was really young and

470
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 2: I lost my mom. It was just recently it's been

471
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 2: ten years, and I thank you. And I remember the

472
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 2: situation of my father navigating the grief of losing his

473
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 2: ex wife, and it was a really it was a

474
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 2: delicate dance. My dad is remarried, but I think that

475
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 2: there was an Obviously Kelly is, as far as we know,

476
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 2: is not in another public relationship at this time. But

477
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 2: I think that there was a time where my dad

478
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 2: felt that he wanted to grieve. Obviously, the woman that

479
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 2: he had a family with that he had children with,

480
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 2: but was also consciously, you know, trying to not lap

481
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 2: in terms of his own marriage. So I think that

482
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 2: that's an interesting situation to be in when I mean,

483
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 2: my parents definitely didn't have the easiest of divorce, but

484
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 2: once they were able to get through, it maintained a

485
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 2: very friendly relationship up until my mother's passing. I mean,

486
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 2: I love that very friendly. I would get together constantly

487
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 2: for dinner, even when we were grown and out of

488
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 2: the house, just the two of them, And so it

489
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 2: wasn't something that I was expecting when going through the

490
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 2: grief process to also be seeing my dad going through it,

491
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 2: which I mean, you think about it on paper, and

492
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 2: it does make sense. But I think that's what a

493
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 2: lot of people maybe don't think about when they've gotten divorced,

494
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 2: especially when we talk about some of these really contentious

495
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 2: divorces that are happening right Like if your ex spouse,

496
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 2: you know, is there one moment and gone then and

497
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 2: then you are ultimately a total single parent. That's a

498
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 2: lot to take on, especially again when these kids are

499
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: very young now to have lost their fathers.

500
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that there's right. It's so multi dimensional.

501
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: It's imagine to sorrow for your kids, you know, it's

502
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: all it's so funny. It's all reminded me of Margaret

503
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: Joseph's and Joe Binigno, and Margaret was on the pod

504
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 1: and and her ex husband passed or ex husband jan

505
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: and it was all very public, it was on the show.

506
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: But how she felt it was hard because she you know,

507
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: she's married and they have a fabulous marriage, but at

508
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: the time she was really she had a really more

509
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: in her ex. They also had a friendly relationship. And

510
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: then also you know, feeling of if you're you went

511
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: through a contentious divorce. And I'm sure the kids always

512
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: know right they have even if they don't know, they

513
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: know that it's ugly between mom and dad. At least

514
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: that's what my therapist tells me. But so looking back

515
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: on that and and I don't there's something to be

516
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: said for really working towards an amicable split, and I

517
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: think there's you look at cases like this and it

518
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: gives you a lot of insight. I remember Kelly being

519
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: really angry, and I'm not saying she didn't have a

520
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: good reason to be, but I wonder if she had

521
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: known then what she knows now it would have been different,

522
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: she would have been maybe not. And I again, and

523
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: I'm sure he was really angry, and I don't know

524
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: what he was like to deal with. This has nothing

525
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: to do. I'm not I wasn't. I'm not making judge,

526
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: making a judgment. I'm just wondering, if you know, after

527
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: the finality of death, people do look back and wish

528
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: that they had done it differently, And it's a good

529
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: I just think it's a good It's some good insight

530
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: for anyone going through it. I'm not saying picture. I'm

531
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: sure many people going through the force wish their partner

532
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: was dead or think that they wish that their partner

533
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: was dead. But you know, there's nothing to be done now,

534
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: there's nothing that is. You can't change what happened. You

535
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: can't go back, and you know, I think about that

536
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: also a little off topic, but with my with my parents,

537
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: my father and I had a difficult relationship and it

538
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: was really difficult and now we are good and but

539
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: there's still stuff right and I also help my dad

540
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: financially and I do it. I don't want any I

541
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: don't want to look back. He's you know, he's eighty

542
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: three years old and wish that I had said something

543
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: that I didn't say. I wish that I had acted

544
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: in a way I didn't act or helped when I

545
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: didn't help. I want to I do these things for me, right,

546
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: That is what I've I've learned in therapy. And so

547
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: this relationship I have with him now, which is really

548
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: nice and warm and loving, I have I've worked like

549
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: very consciously in terms of like developing that because I

550
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: don't want to look back one day and regret not

551
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: having had a relationship with my dad, or you know,

552
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: I wish I had helped him more. But yeah, again

553
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: that's off topic, but I'm just saying that it's something

554
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: to think about. You know, these are lessons.

555
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 2: The sentiment is there for sure that life is short.

556
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: Do all that you can. And you know, we're obviously

557
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 2: wishing Kelly Clarkson and her kids and you know, Brandon's

558
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: family that has all been affected by his passing, we're

559
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 2: obviously all wishing them the best. And here we are

560
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: this difficult time because it is going to take time

561
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: to heal from something like this. It's that's a major

562
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: loss for that.

563
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, agreed, Okay, but on to yet another couple,

564
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: who who's going through it? So Jay Cutler and excuse me,

565
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: Kristin Cavalary. So, I guess Kristin recently said that you

566
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: got no money from the divorce, right. What do you

567
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: think of that, Heather.

568
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 2: I think it's a little interesting because you know, Jay

569
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 2: kind of you know, got back at her recently in

570
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: an interview, and we can get into that. But these two,

571
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,719
Speaker 2: these two have been divorced for a minute. Yeah, and

572
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 2: I think it's kind of telling that the both of

573
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: them can't really seem to stop talking about the other.

574
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, we are stuck in when did they get married

575
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: the eighties? I don't even know. No, maybe not.

576
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: They definitely didn't get married in the eighties.

577
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: Now lich longer. Sorry, guys, that's my age showing. They

578
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: just feels like they've been yeah, because they're not that old.

579
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: They're not that old. It feels like they've been married

580
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: and divorced and hate each other forever.

581
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 2: It's just really interesting. Like Kristen has obviously had other

582
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 2: public relationships romances since this divorce, and you know, the

583
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 2: stuff about Jay continues to come out. And I will say,

584
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 2: you know, I'm a little bit torn on this because

585
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 2: I do. I have been a longtime fan of Kristen

586
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 2: and do love that she shoots straight. She gives it

587
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: honest and real on her podcast in interviews, she always

588
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: doesn't hold back right, and this is why people love her,

589
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 2: and this is why she has maintained, you know, what

590
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 2: could have been deemed as a five minutes in Hollywood

591
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 2: and really stretched that over the course of over a

592
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: decade now. And I think that that is really because

593
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: she is open and honest with her audience, and that's

594
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: why they love her now for all you know everything,

595
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: Jay you know, was a huge football career with the

596
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 2: Chicago Bears, and you know, after he retired, he and

597
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 2: Kristen had a reality show which really did open him

598
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 2: up to a new audience. We got to see his

599
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 2: kind of funny personality. And now I believe he's doing

600
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: sports broadcasting and stuff like that so in his post

601
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 2: retirement career. But you know, I really we should talk

602
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: about exactly what he said.

603
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it made sense what he said. You know, he

604
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: said that there's not a judge in the state of

605
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: Tennessee that would have signed an agreement stating that Jay

606
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: would keep every single dollar he made throughout their marriage. Yeah,

607
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: he was. Apparently he was one of the was once

608
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: the highest paid quarterback in the NFL. He signed one

609
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty six million dollar contract with the Chicago Bears.

610
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: And you know, saying that Kristen saying that she got

611
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: no money from the divorce, it definitely feels far fetched

612
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 1: to me. I can't read, okay, but also I guess,

613
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: and she has a whole lifestyle brand now right, she

614
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: done James, and that's making a ton of money from

615
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: what I'm reading.

616
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she she has maintained that she has one

617
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 2: hundred percent of that company and that she never took

618
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 2: outside funding and Jay did not have anything to do

619
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 2: with its creation, and that it's making you know, fifty

620
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 2: million a year in revenue, which, go girl, I think

621
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 2: that's awesome. You know, she said I have never gotten

622
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: a penny from my ex husband and added I didn't

623
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 2: get any money from him in the divorce. So let's

624
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 2: clear that up, thank you.

625
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,959
Speaker 1: I mean that if you maybe she's saying she had

626
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: her own money and in her mind what she got

627
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: was was her I mean maybe that could be interpreted

628
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: different ways, but yes, it definitely sounds unlikely to me

629
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: that he was making one hundred and twenty six million

630
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: dollars and she walked away with nothing. That sounds implausible

631
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: to me.

632
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 2: And I'll also back it up with you and I

633
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 2: both know that divorce costs a lot of money. Divorce

634
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 2: lawyers are not cheap. So is it that she got

635
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 2: money but it went to paying divorce laws and she

636
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 2: didn't come out with a prophet that's a different story.

637
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,439
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean you didn't get any money. It means

638
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 2: that your money went to paying for your divorce proceedings.

639
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: It just feels like it was probably so much money there.

640
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I would I would think if

641
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: Kristen was my daughter. You're right, she was not an

642
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: eighties girl.

643
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: No, Kristin and I are around the scene.

644
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, okay, all right, piped down Heather. So,

645
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: but if Kristin was my daughter, which I guess she

646
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: could be, I would definitely be advising her to shh, stop,

647
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: just stop, especially because it seems that she's thriving.

648
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 2: She is thriving, and they have three kids. They are thirteen, eleven,

649
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 2: and nine, and so to me, it's also like, let's

650
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 2: zip it a little just because there's a great way

651
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 2: that it's getting back, not getting back to the kids.

652
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: At the Breed listen, and according to Jay, he says

653
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: her lifestyle brand was a marital asset because Kristen, you know,

654
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 1: funded the company while they were married. Another reason ladies

655
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: and gentlemen to get a prenup by the way, or

656
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: a post up exactly. But yeah, I just I it's

657
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: I would definitely advise if it's my daughter or my son,

658
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: I would be advising them both to zip it. Okay,

659
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: So here's some eighties news, Heather, it's not Kristin Larry.

660
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 2: I still don't think this is eighties news.

661
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: Kevin Federline is I mean, I'm saying he's he's talking

662
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: about his Brittany in his Kevin Federline has a new

663
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: book coming out, guys, but he's speaking about Britney. That

664
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: had to have been the eighties.

665
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 2: Jen.

666
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: No, yes, hold on a second. So Kevin Fetterline is

667
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 1: bringing his story.

668
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 2: They got married in two thousand and four and divorced

669
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: in two thousand and seven.

670
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: No, Jen, Oh my god, you guys, Okay, I'm not

671
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: a credible source. So what I'm old, Give me a break,

672
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: What do you want from me? I'm doing the best

673
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 1: I can be. Quiet, Heather, this is anyway he's going back.

674
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is he's writing a book. Wait a second, Heather,

675
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: when I was in college. I went to college from

676
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: eighty six to ninety and while I was in college,

677
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: Britney Spears was doing her thing. Right.

678
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: No, Jen, she did not pop onto the scene until

679
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine. What are you talking about?

680
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: Are you sure someone look that up?

681
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 2: Britney Spears came out with her debut album in like

682
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 2: ninety eight, ninety nine. I know because she was my

683
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 2: first concert. She opened for n Sync and that was

684
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 2: January of nineteen ninety nine.

685
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: Quiet, fine, whatever, We'll move on anyway. The point is

686
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: it still feels like Kevin feederline is it's an interesting

687
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: time for him to be writing a book about and

688
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: I'm I think anybody would assume that it's going to

689
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: have a lot to do with Britney. This book. That's

690
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: what's going to make it so interesting, right. But also

691
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: apparently his son, their son just turned I don't know,

692
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,439
Speaker 1: seventeen or eighteen, and I guess child support is over.

693
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: Yes, So the new book, his new his first memoir

694
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 2: is called You Thought You knew, and it's coming out

695
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: October twenty first, And yeah, I think it's really interesting

696
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 2: timing because him and Brittany have two sons, Sean Preston

697
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 2: and Jayden James. Sean is nineteen Jade and James recently

698
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: turned eighteen. So that and anybody that's followed the Britney

699
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 2: story knows that a couple of years ago, Kevin to

700
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: you know, full custody of the boys and was raising them.

701
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 2: So that means that Britney was paying child support. So

702
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: that obviously means that it's most likely done now that

703
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: they are eighteen. Now, who's to say that she's not

704
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 2: still supporting them in some way financially. But I think

705
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 2: it's really interesting that this is now when Kevin decides

706
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: to come out with a memoir. Now we also know

707
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: that Britney had her own memoir that came out and

708
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 2: is also being made into a movie. You know, I

709
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: just feel like, I don't know, you can you tell me.

710
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 2: I feel like Brittany, we all know, has been through

711
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 2: a lot, and it kind of bums me out that

712
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 2: now somebody else again in her life, in her inner circle,

713
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: is going to try a buck off of her.

714
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you guys something, Heather, you are one

715
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: amongst many. But but Britney lovers like people that I

716
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 1: know younger than me, but that grew up on Brittany.

717
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 1: They are emotional about everything Brittany. They get so upset.

718
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: My friend and my manager loves Brittany, Like, don't you

719
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: say a bad word about Brittany. I remember even when

720
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: I was recording season we were doing filming Season fourteen,

721
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: Rachel Fuda, we had a whole funny thing about Brittany

722
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: because you do not diss Brittany in front of her.

723
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: So people get very sensitive about Brittany. And I think

724
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: probably because she's definitely seemed over the years to be

725
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: she's always struggling, you know, with her mental health. With paparazzi,

726
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: we all watched her shave her head and take the

727
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: baseball back to the car and so talented, right, was

728
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: so much to offer this world.

729
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think anybody who's listened or read her memoir,

730
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 2: it was eye opening. It was extremely sad to hear

731
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 2: about how she has been internally struggling this past you know, decade. Really,

732
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 2: So I will play a little bit of Devil's advocate

733
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: in the sense that. Because I did read Britney's memoir,

734
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 2: I do know that Kevin was mentioned quite a bit

735
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: in it because he is a big chunk and important

736
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 2: part of her life. He was her second husband and

737
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 2: the only one that she had children with. So you know,

738
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 2: I will say that Kevin does have the right to

739
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: write a book and mention Brittany and talk about his life.

740
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: He says, you know that it's going to be extremely

741
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: intimate and transparent when it comes to this book. And

742
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 2: if anybody didn't know, prior to being with Britney, Kevin

743
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 2: was a professional dancer. He danced with my major in

744
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: Pink Destiny's Child.

745
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: Right, he was a dancer. He was back, Yeah, he was.

746
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: He was dancing for her. So he was also with

747
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 2: shar Jackson prior to being with Brittany. So he had

748
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: a child or two children with her. Right, it's not

749
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 2: a life, you know. I won't deny that.

750
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: But you're protective over Brittany.

751
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: I just think it's a little bit of a bummer

752
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: that this keeps happening to her, and I just want Brittany.

753
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: I don't want to say leave Brittany alone, which is

754
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 2: obviously the famous quote, but I do want Brittany to

755
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: have a you know, I wish her a lot of

756
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 2: peace and to have a different lifestyle now that you

757
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: know she's gone through her second public divorce with Sam.

758
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: I'd love Brittany. I love her music, and I've certainly watched,

759
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: you know, what she's been through, and but I can't

760
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: begrudge him, you know, trying to make the big bucks,

761
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: and I think it will sell. There's that.

762
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 2: I think so too, and I think it's going to

763
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: get a lot of attention.

764
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: We just feel bad for Brittany, is basically what you're saying.

765
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: And I don't. I do too, but I I have

766
00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: to say that, you know, man's got to eat. I

767
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: don't know, and and maybe there are there are other

768
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: ways to do it, But you know, I also do

769
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: think that Brittany obviously, I'm I'm thrilled when her Conservative

770
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: conservatorship was thrown out right, but she still to me,

771
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: doesn't seem well and maybe how I you know, I

772
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: see her dancing like everybody's kind of teases about her

773
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: dancing with knives, and she seems a little a little unglued.

774
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: But I'm on the shrink. But having said all that,

775
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: I wonder what it's been like for him and his

776
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: boys dealing with that, right, because they don't deal with

777
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: it like we deal with it. We watch it and

778
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: we feel badly or we you know, feel sometimes even

779
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: amused seeing everything seems so wild. And but for him,

780
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's been very hard. Certainly it has to

781
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: have been for his boys. So he has a story

782
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: to tell. And I, you know, don't I don't wish

783
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: that on, you know, any more sadness or any more

784
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: controversy for Brittany. But I don't know. I sort of

785
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: feel like I don't blame him. How's that?

786
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 2: I agree? And I get again, you know, she's come

787
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 2: out with hers talked about him. I guess he has

788
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 2: every right to come out with his own now and

789
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 2: talk about her. So we'll stay glued to it. It's

790
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: coming out October twenty first you thought you knew, So

791
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: we'll keep you guys updated on that one.

792
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: It's a good title, it is.

793
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: It is kind of a good title.

794
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: I do like that, right, I do too. You want

795
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: to talk to Jessica Alba and Cash Warren?

796
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we got to end this episode on

797
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 2: some positives.

798
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: We could do. Katy Perry and Justin Trudeau. I just

799
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: thought it was justin throw Justin Trudeau.

800
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: Justin Trudeau is different than Justin.

801
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: Through Okay, see this, I hadn't heard about this one before.

802
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 1: The Katy Perry in my mind, she's just like split

803
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: with Orlando, so she did.

804
00:45:59,200 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 3: She did know.

805
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: That's what I think is amazing that we should let

806
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 2: our listeners know is that there is light at the

807
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 2: end of the tunnel, and some people are finding that

808
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 2: light a little sooner than maybe others are. We got

809
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: to end on something positive because, like you know, Jessica

810
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 2: Alba and Cash Warren, they were together for married for

811
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 2: sixteen years, and at the top of this year they

812
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 2: announced that they were separating and going through the divorce motions,

813
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 2: which was pretty shocking. I think to anybody that has,

814
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 2: you know, followed either Jessica through her launching of The

815
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: Honest Company or her you know, acting career, nobody really

816
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: saw kind of trouble in Paradise.

817
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they always presented. They're so gorgeous, exactly, and they

818
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: just right always presented, at least to me on red carpets,

819
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 1: is just madly in love and yeah, this really beautiful

820
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: power couple.

821
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: Exactly, and they've got three kids seventeen, fourteen, and seven.

822
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, that was pretty shocking at the top of

823
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 2: this year for them to announce that. But it looks

824
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 2: like they are both moving on in their own ways

825
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: and are doing quite well. So Cash was seen for

826
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 2: the second time holding hands with Hannahson Doer I will

827
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 2: say is how it's pronounced having dinner in Los Angeles,

828
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 2: so that a lot of sources are saying makes it

829
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 2: official because they've been seen twice holding out. So I

830
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 2: mean take that with a grain of salt. But you know,

831
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 2: I think definitely, when you're a public figure and you're

832
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 2: out there holding hands, getting you know, snapped by the paparazzi,

833
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 2: it means that you're comfortable or you're cool with people.

834
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: See Hopefully, it means that you've also talked to your kids, hope,

835
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: and that they knew it was coming. I mean to

836
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 1: think of the Mauricio of it all when he was snapped.

837
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: Oh and yeah, right, that is the thing. I mean,

838
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: all roads lead back to the kids, and that's you know,

839
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: that's the part that it gets it gets really where

840
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: it gets really sticky.

841
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 2: What I would say about the most situation, which is

842
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 2: a little different than this is these two Cash and Hannah.

843
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: They're holding hands, they're smiling, and they're looking exactly like

844
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: directly to the camera.

845
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: They're not getting caught, so their kids are probably and

846
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: you don't know how long they've been in the midst

847
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: of separating and what the kid right of course exactly.

848
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna toss it out there that they're probably

849
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 2: feeling good about this relationship. It seems to be progressing,

850
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 2: whatever it is. But also I kind of love that.

851
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 2: You know. We've also seen paparazzi photos of Jessica Alba

852
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 2: and Danny Ramirez, so they've been spotted kissing. We've actually

853
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 2: seen pictures of them kissing, and you know, she seems

854
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 2: to be happy. She was recently also like vacationing and

855
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 2: like posting some really hot photos of herself in a bikini.

856
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 2: So it seems like they're both doing their thing.

857
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 1: Well listen, yeah, it does. I again, since they're from

858
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: the eighties, I love it, and I'm there i'm their

859
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: mother's age, but I probably am. But I would just

860
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: tell them I would beg of them, don't rush, don't

861
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: rush into the next thing, and and and all those

862
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Speaker 1: cliches you know, I feel like there are cliches for

863
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Speaker 1: a reason. You don't want your rebound to end up

864
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Speaker 1: being your Oh, although I'm not saying it never works right,

865
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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that's what's going on here, But be very

866
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: careful about rebound relationships, you guys. They are sticky. Your

867
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: emotions are all over the place, especially when you are

868
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: coming out of a marriage. And I'm not saying that

869
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: maybe each maybe Jessica and Cash have now found true

870
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 1: happiness with these other, you know, two people, but careful, careful,

871
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: slowed it down. Danger warning ahead, danger ahead.

872
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Speaker 2: Well let's end. Let's end on this other interesting headline

873
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Speaker 2: that we're seeing, which is Katy Perry and former Prime

874
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Speaker 2: Minister of Canada Justin Trudeau are dating.

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Speaker 1: And so at first when I read that, Heather, I

876
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: thought it was Justin Threau. Just so, you know, so

877
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: everything I have to I have to sort of this

878
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: is all. This is so bizarre to me. I have

879
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 1: to now Justin Threau would have made sense. Justin Trudeau.

880
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: He's gorgeous, so whatever you want to say about him,

881
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: man is handsome exactly. Obviously Katie is gorgeous as well.

882
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: And but what I know, I can't I'm trying to

883
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Speaker 1: like you explained that to me?

884
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 2: How did that? How bizarre? So, I mean the headline

885
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 2: says that they have plenty to talk about, but no

886
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 2: current plans after date. So if anybody's been paying attention

887
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Speaker 2: to the headlines, these two were spotted having dinner together

888
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 2: and then two days later, Trudeau was spotted at Katy

889
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 2: Perry's show in Montreal. So you know, Katie is fresh

890
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 2: off of her broken engagement with Orlando Bloom, who she

891
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: had a child with though they were never married. Obviously,

892
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Speaker 2: if everybody can go back in their brains, they know

893
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 2: that Katie was previously married to Russell Brand, so she

894
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 2: definitely is in her Part two Part three era.

895
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Speaker 1: These come on the pod for some reason, not if

896
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: I'm I feel like maybe maybe if Jenny Garth or

897
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Speaker 1: Amy and TJ.

898
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 2: Listen always open to Katie coming on, if she would

899
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 2: be interested in that, Yeah, Kati, you hear that.

900
00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 1: Justin.

901
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 2: Trudeau, on the other hand, and and his wife Sophie,

902
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 2: announced in August of twenty twenty three that they were

903
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:12,240
Speaker 2: separating after eighteen years of marriage and they have two children,

904
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 2: so that's a really long relationship to have ended. And

905
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 2: then obviously if you're following politics whatsoever. You know that

906
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 2: he also stepped down as Prime Minister of Canada not

907
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 2: too long ago. So he's definitely going through a big

908
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 2: shift right now in terms of his not only work life,

909
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 2: but his personal life. So, you know, I don't know.

910
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 2: I will say that the pictures I saw of them

911
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:44,280
Speaker 2: on their date, I was like, uh, you know, attractive couple,

912
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 2: and obviously.

913
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: Oh they're dating. I don't even I will be.

914
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 2: I will be totally honest. I have followed Katy Perry's

915
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 2: romantic life probably more than I would care to admit,

916
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 2: and I will say that I really don't get what

917
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 2: her type is. I say that honestly.

918
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, ready, don't cringe. She kissed a girl

919
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: and she liked it. Ew ew, I'm so cringey. Oh

920
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: my god, my kids would be so pissed. Don't listen.

921
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 1: Rachel or Zach.

922
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: Having a long term relationship with you know, John Mayer,

923
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 2: being married to Russell Brand, you know, being with Orlando Bloom.

924
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 2: I look at all these guys on paper, and I say,

925
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 2: what's the connection? You know what I mean? Because it

926
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 2: all seems so different. And so now he's getting into

927
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Speaker 2: a politician like it's all go girl, Like jan.

928
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, this is again, this is just me

929
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:38,959
Speaker 1: starting trouble. But do you think that part of it

930
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 1: is could be a rebrand for her?

931
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 3: Right?

932
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 1: She got so much about her, you know, her astronaut

933
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 1: escapades and maybe, yeah, I don't know, I'm just that

934
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Speaker 1: I'm just making up you guys. I don't know if

935
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Speaker 1: that's I can't imagine that Justin Trudeau would be interested

936
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Speaker 1: in helping someone and rebrand themselves. But yeah, he's certainly

937
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:03,479
Speaker 1: a more serious guy.

938
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Speaker 2: Listen, what I'm going to say is I think that Katie,

939
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 2: I would say, probably has an affinity. If you look

940
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 2: at all these guys on paper, I think the one

941
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 2: factor that I'm seeing kind of combine across the thing

942
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 2: is they're all really good engaging talkers. I think she

943
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 2: likes a guy that is, whether that's gregarious or engaging

944
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 2: in stimulating conversation, that would be.

945
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Speaker 1: My guest interesting.

946
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Speaker 2: And I would say that Justin Trudeau probably is able

947
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: to have some very stimulating conversation.

948
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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm a betting girl. I'm betting on Justin to

949
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: be able to carry a conversation exactly. But it's always

950
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: like that look at j Loo. I mean, I don't

951
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 1: know how you compare. There have been a lot of them,

952
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: Alex rod Well, actually they're all maybe not her first

953
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: husband was not so famous and successful. I don't remember,

954
00:54:54,200 --> 00:55:01,479
Speaker 1: but certainly from you know, Ben Stiller to Alexdrigez too.

955
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,280
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, sorry, you mean Ben Affleck, not Ben Stiller.

956
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: Not doing this podcast anymore? I quit. No, I do

957
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 1: not like how you're treating me. I'm sorry, I do

958
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 1: not like it.

959
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

960
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: I'm not having it.

961
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Speaker 2: I would have just loved Jen Fessler breaks headline, j

962
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,720
Speaker 2: Loo used to be with Ben Stiller.

963
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Speaker 1: I didn't say Stiller. You did know what I thought

964
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Speaker 1: this had been? Oh god, I said Stiller. Oh no,

965
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Speaker 1: oh my god. I love it.

966
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Speaker 3: Jen.

967
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 2: It's early.

968
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 1: Listen it. When you need an authority on anything, you

969
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:35,720
Speaker 1: should come to me. If you want to know about marriage,

970
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: and really ask Jen Fssler. I think Bessler. Is that

971
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: my last name?

972
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

973
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Speaker 1: I think I was born in the eighties, so I

974
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: have a lot of I have a lot of knowledge

975
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Speaker 1: to impart.

976
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Speaker 2: I love it. Whoa well, I will say whatever this

977
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 2: little budding romance is connection, whatever it might be, I'm

978
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 2: into it. Not that they need my stamp of approval.

979
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Speaker 2: But I'm kind of into it. What about you?

980
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: Into it too? Crazy Katie Perry fan, She's cute, talented.

981
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: I'm not a stan, but I think this is I

982
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: think it's a really interesting recoupling or coupling. Right. Yeah, yeah,

983
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: I'm into it. I agree, follow it.

984
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 2: I agree, We'll keep We'll keep you guys. Also posted

985
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 2: on that one. If it ends up, you know, progressing

986
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 2: to something.

987
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: Yes, did you get the puppy or not?

988
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 2: Soon? Soon?

989
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: Very Heather's about to have her next chapter ye, because

990
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: she is adopting a King Charles Cocker Spaniel puppy. I

991
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: saw a picture, and my girl, everything's about to change.

992
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 2: I'm about to be a dog mommy.

993
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: You're about to be a dog mommy.

994
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 2: It's about to get crazy. No, very very soon.

995
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 1: I'm so excited for you. But anyway, guys, so now

996
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: that you're all updated on eighties News, we will thank

997
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: you for listening.

998
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Speaker 2: This has been fun, Jen, thanks for having me.

999
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,959
Speaker 1: Please let's do it again. Yeah, of course, I feel

1000
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: like we are the new Johnny Carson and McMahon, who

1001
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: you probably don't even know what I'm talking about.

1002
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 2: That sounds like some eighties news.

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Speaker 1: All Right, you guys, that was a lot of divorce headlines.

1004
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Speaker 1: If you are going through divorce or heartache right now,

1005
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: I hope this helped you to realize that you are

1006
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: not the only one going through it. Thank you Heather

1007
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: again for breaking it all down with me. Just get

1008
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: out of a messy divorce. Need help picking up pieces?

1009
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Speaker 1: Call us or email us. All of the info is

1010
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: in the show notes. Follow us on socials. Please make

1011
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: sure to rate and review the podcast. I Do Part

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Speaker 1: two an iHeartRadio podcast where falling in love is the

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Speaker 1: main objective.