WEBVTT -  Finding Your Voice in The Army with Kynnie Martin

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<v Speaker 1>Please be advised the following episode contains references to violence

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<v Speaker 1>and may not be suitable for all listeners. This is

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<v Speaker 1>BETS You Should Know, a podcast from My Heart Radio

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<v Speaker 1>celebrating the many who have selflessly put their lives on

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<v Speaker 1>the line to serve their country and the armed forces.

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<v Speaker 1>Every Veterans Day, we as a country honor and commemorate

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<v Speaker 1>the people who fight for our freedom and defend our country.

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<v Speaker 1>And in this four part series, you'll hear from these

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<v Speaker 1>individuals as they share their unique experiences in the military

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<v Speaker 1>and the lessons they learned that carried them into their

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<v Speaker 1>new roles in civilian life. Former U. S Army Captain

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny Martin has a story unlike any other. The daughter

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<v Speaker 1>of a single mother, Kenny spent her teen years living

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<v Speaker 1>with her grandparents after a tragic event befell their family

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<v Speaker 1>and left her mom serving a twenty eight year prison sentence.

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<v Speaker 1>During the trial, Kenny was told her voice and story

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<v Speaker 1>didn't matter. Thankfully, it wasn't long after joining the Army

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<v Speaker 1>that Kenny found her voice again. Today, she uses her

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<v Speaker 1>voice to lift up and support the voices of others

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<v Speaker 1>by working with nonprofit organizations that serve veterans I had

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to speak with Kenny about the incredible work

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<v Speaker 1>she did in military intelligence and the hopes she has

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<v Speaker 1>for her own daughters. Hi. Hi, how are you good

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to you? Get to talk to you? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't talk to you on the radio

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<v Speaker 1>when I hear your voice, but good to hear your voice.

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<v Speaker 1>But for real, it's kind of weird. It's like an

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<v Speaker 1>interactive radio show. Now. Usually just yell and I wouldn't hear.

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<v Speaker 1>But now you can say whatever you want any time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have to acknowledge it. I know. Well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very honored that you'd spent some time with me, So again,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you very much. Yeah, thanks for doing this. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>start from the beginning. I kind of like to get

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<v Speaker 1>to know what what folks are about before we even

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the military service. And so tell me where

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<v Speaker 1>you grew up and what home was like for you

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<v Speaker 1>early on. Sure. So. I born and raised in Colorado,

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<v Speaker 1>originally from Colorado Springs, but currently live in Denver with

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<v Speaker 1>my husband and my two kids. I was raised by

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<v Speaker 1>a single parent, my mom My father Quasi in the

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<v Speaker 1>picture when I was little, but they got divorced when

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<v Speaker 1>I was pretty young. My mom and my grandparents raised

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<v Speaker 1>myself and my two younger brothers in Colorado Springs. Growing

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<v Speaker 1>up with a single mom, Do you feel like that

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<v Speaker 1>in any way or anything from that, because I grew

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<v Speaker 1>up with a single mom too, and it had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to do with the decisions I made in life. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. So speaking of life decisions, tell me about

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<v Speaker 1>your decision to listen the army. How did that come about?

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<v Speaker 1>It was actually a spur of the moment decision for

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<v Speaker 1>me to go into the army. I think being raised

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<v Speaker 1>by a single parent and then my grandparents. My grandfather

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<v Speaker 1>was a West Point class of nineteen thirty two and

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<v Speaker 1>served thirty two years in the army, and his side

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<v Speaker 1>of the family has very long history of service in

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<v Speaker 1>the military, dating all the way back to you know, England,

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<v Speaker 1>the Civil War and everything. So yeah, I think the tenacity,

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<v Speaker 1>the grit, the resiliency that single parents have to have

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<v Speaker 1>and that they have to instill in their kids to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to function in life. You know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>having two kids in my own even with a great

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<v Speaker 1>supportive partner, was really hard to do. And so having

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<v Speaker 1>a single parent being able to raise three kids with

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<v Speaker 1>my grandparents, you know, it definitely teaches you a lot differently.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you you rely on each other, you get

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<v Speaker 1>really close to your family, I think. And there's just

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to be said about single parents for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>When you were a teenager, your mom got remarried to someone,

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<v Speaker 1>Is that right? Yeah? So, you know, as a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up an incredibly supportive family, a really good

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<v Speaker 1>school system, and I always had that support system to

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<v Speaker 1>to build up my confidence. You know. I was in

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<v Speaker 1>Gift and Talented Student Council president and my mom, being

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<v Speaker 1>a single parent, went with low income. We were also

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<v Speaker 1>a free and reduced lunch program. Kid like me and

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<v Speaker 1>my brothers were right, but we were never taught that

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<v Speaker 1>we were victims of anything. We were never taught to

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<v Speaker 1>take advantage of any of the programs, but to be

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<v Speaker 1>thankful for them and of all the things that we

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<v Speaker 1>can be thankful for. To continue giving to our community.

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<v Speaker 1>So we always did volunteering with our church, with our neighborhood,

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<v Speaker 1>with other groups, and so we've always just been taught

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<v Speaker 1>to give back in that kind of way. So seven

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<v Speaker 1>were juniors in high school and my mom had gotten

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<v Speaker 1>remarried to this guy and they had met because she

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<v Speaker 1>actually was going to school to get her pH d

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<v Speaker 1>in criminology and sociology, and after a few years, the

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<v Speaker 1>marriage started to deteriorate pretty quickly, and he became pretty abusive,

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<v Speaker 1>mostly mentally to my mother and then also to me

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<v Speaker 1>and my brothers. So there would be multiple days where

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<v Speaker 1>we would come home from school and the house would

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<v Speaker 1>be trashed. We would come home and you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>would be arguing, and my mom would tell us, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>go to youth church and come back and I'll make

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<v Speaker 1>sure he's gone out of the house and you guys

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<v Speaker 1>can sleep here and go to school the next day.

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<v Speaker 1>As the relationship became more toxic and abusive, Keeney's mother

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<v Speaker 1>filed a permanent restraining order against him, which required he

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<v Speaker 1>moved out of their home in Boulder, Colorado. He was

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<v Speaker 1>scheduled to come over to our home to pick up

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of his belongings, and this was in May

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<v Speaker 1>of He came over and while they were in the

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<v Speaker 1>house and he was escorted by a member of the

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<v Speaker 1>Boulder Police Department. He told my mom that she couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>watch me all the time, and she couldn't take care

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<v Speaker 1>of me all the time, and he was going to

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever it took to either bring harm to me

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<v Speaker 1>or take me and my brothers away from her. So

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<v Speaker 1>that really scared her, and it scared her to the

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<v Speaker 1>point where she had purchased a handgun unbeknownst to me

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<v Speaker 1>and my brothers, and she had kept it in her house.

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<v Speaker 1>She had taken lessons on how to use it in

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<v Speaker 1>self defense, and in that moment when he told her

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to take us away from her and

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<v Speaker 1>possibly hurt me, she decided in that moment to pull

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<v Speaker 1>out that gun and she shot him six times. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't survive. And so through the court trials and everything,

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<v Speaker 1>it was determined that because she had purchased that handgun

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<v Speaker 1>at advance, it was premeditated murder and not self defense

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<v Speaker 1>since he had physically never done anything to her. So

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<v Speaker 1>in October of which was twenty three years ago, my

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<v Speaker 1>mom was sentenced to twenty eight years in prison. She

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<v Speaker 1>obviously missed high school graduation, college graduation, all of that stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but she was here in Colorado and we still got

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<v Speaker 1>to see her. And that kind of was like the

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<v Speaker 1>first watershed moment of my life that brought me into

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<v Speaker 1>this military service. I'm so appreciative of you being completely

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<v Speaker 1>vulnerable with your story because I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people in different ways relate. I think you and I

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<v Speaker 1>have very similar stories growing up with just the parental situation,

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<v Speaker 1>how vulnerable we were as kids, but how protective my

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<v Speaker 1>grandma was from for me or even you know, my

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<v Speaker 1>mom when when she was raising me. So so I

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<v Speaker 1>really appreciate you sharing that. You know, and as as

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting into the first stage of your life in

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<v Speaker 1>the Army and you go into basic training, like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>where I want to start with you and I talking

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<v Speaker 1>about this. Tell me what going into basic training was

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<v Speaker 1>like for you. I got a letter in the mail

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<v Speaker 1>from our r O t C unit saying they were

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<v Speaker 1>looking for students who would be interested in joining our

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<v Speaker 1>O t C and possibly commit to being in the

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<v Speaker 1>military afterwards. And that summer I was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not doing anything. So I went to basic camp

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<v Speaker 1>in June of two thousand to my first ever military

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<v Speaker 1>experience activity. That basic camp is really what changed my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Um it was four weeks. It was the hardest mentally,

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<v Speaker 1>the most grueling physically, and the most fun thing I

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<v Speaker 1>had ever done. And it was the first time ever

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<v Speaker 1>that I had actually touched a weapon before in my life,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember being so nervous about handling live rounds,

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<v Speaker 1>especially given my situation with my mom. Had no idea,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how I was going to do one drill.

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<v Speaker 1>Sergeant took an interest in me, and I think just

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<v Speaker 1>saw the leadership potential that I had, and he knew

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<v Speaker 1>how nervous I was, and so he took me aside

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<v Speaker 1>and helped me feel comfortable with my weapon, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we went to the life fire range. I hit thirty

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<v Speaker 1>eight out of my forty targets and actually was in

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<v Speaker 1>the top three at the range. So so that was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty awesome. I was pretty proud of myself for, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>overcoming this big fear and for kind of being a

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<v Speaker 1>badass at the time. So I came back from this

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<v Speaker 1>basic camp experience in Fort Knox with this whole renewed

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<v Speaker 1>sense of confidence. It was then in that moment that

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<v Speaker 1>I realized I had this voice and that I had

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<v Speaker 1>lost it during the trials when my mom was sent

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<v Speaker 1>to prison, the judge overseeing the case didn't allow me

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<v Speaker 1>to take the stand to talk about my experience living

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<v Speaker 1>in that home with my mom and her husband, and

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<v Speaker 1>so essentially I told me that my voice didn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I went to that basic camp for the Army,

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<v Speaker 1>I was told that my voice did matter and that

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<v Speaker 1>I needed to use it. From that day on, I

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<v Speaker 1>had to rebuild myself really, and it was those members

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<v Speaker 1>of the military, my friends, the drill sergeants, all of

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<v Speaker 1>those people that were involved in that camp and then

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<v Speaker 1>later on in r O t C who really helped

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<v Speaker 1>me regain my voice and regain my confidence so that

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<v Speaker 1>I could be a voice for others going forward. That's

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<v Speaker 1>when I decided, like, I'm going to join the Army.

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<v Speaker 1>As soon as I got back, I signed my contract

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<v Speaker 1>and started r OTC for the last two years of

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<v Speaker 1>my college experience, and then graduated in December of two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand two and became an active duty Army officer. From

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<v Speaker 1>that point on, your first year in the Army, if

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<v Speaker 1>you were to put into a minute nutshell, what would

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<v Speaker 1>you describe it as the first year in the Army man,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say it teaches you a lot about yourself

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<v Speaker 1>about what you're capable of doing, because you are put

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<v Speaker 1>into school and you are tested mentally and physically beyond

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<v Speaker 1>like anything that you ever thought you could imagine. It

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<v Speaker 1>really either breaks you down, quite honestly, or it helps

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<v Speaker 1>break you down and then builds you right back up.

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny found her voice and trusted a support system of

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<v Speaker 1>friends and mentors during our first few months in the army,

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<v Speaker 1>and eventually she would also find someone to love for

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of her life. I met my husband in

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<v Speaker 1>September of two thousand four. We deployed to Iraq in

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<v Speaker 1>February of two thousand five, so we didn't really have

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<v Speaker 1>much of a dating history before deployment. We had no

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<v Speaker 1>clue if we were going to see each other again.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't know what communications were going to be like

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<v Speaker 1>at that time. So we're like, well, I guess I'll

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<v Speaker 1>keep my cell phone number, and if we come back

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of this twelve months and make it

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<v Speaker 1>back alive, let's call each other and kind of start

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<v Speaker 1>all over. I was just reading about your wedding day.

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<v Speaker 1>How did it happen? Is it true? Because what I

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<v Speaker 1>read was you were not even on the same continent. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's true. So on October, my grandfather, who again had

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<v Speaker 1>helped to raise me and my two brothers, he actually

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<v Speaker 1>passed away. I was able to get a Red Cross

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<v Speaker 1>message and was home within twenty four hours of his passing.

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<v Speaker 1>Because my husband and I were not married yet, the

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<v Speaker 1>army still considered us single soldiers even though we were

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<v Speaker 1>engaged but not legally married. He was not able to

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<v Speaker 1>come with me to go home to attend my grandfather's funeral,

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<v Speaker 1>so I went home by myself. He decided to start

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<v Speaker 1>looking into how we could get married. Turns out Colorado

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<v Speaker 1>is one of four states that allows a marriage by proxy,

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<v Speaker 1>so we looked into how that was possible because that

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<v Speaker 1>sounded really weird. And in Colorado, if one person is present,

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<v Speaker 1>the other person can fill out an affidavit and a

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<v Speaker 1>power of attorney and have another person mary their person

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<v Speaker 1>by proxy. So I had my best friend marry me

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<v Speaker 1>in proxy for my husband on November four, Colorado time

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<v Speaker 1>zone and November five, Iraq time zone. But we did

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<v Speaker 1>have a real wedding, mostly because he's always grown up

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<v Speaker 1>in the church and had always just pictured having an

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<v Speaker 1>actual wedding, so he wanted that. And then he also

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<v Speaker 1>wanted his signature on our marriage license, so I have

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<v Speaker 1>to marriage licenses. Is that legal? I don't know, let's hope.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I love it. I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic story. Can you tell me about the work that

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<v Speaker 1>your husband was doing as you guys were over there

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<v Speaker 1>at the same place. Yes. So with the third Infantry Division,

0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:18.839
<v Speaker 1>he was stationed in Baghdad within the Green Zone or

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<v Speaker 1>the International Zone as it's known. He was in charge

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<v Speaker 1>of force protection for the entire divisions areas of operations,

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<v Speaker 1>so that was all of Baghdad and some of the

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<v Speaker 1>surrounding areas as well. He had a pretty unique role

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<v Speaker 1>with forced protection because he was in charge of physical security,

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<v Speaker 1>so all the checkpoints and those kind of things that

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<v Speaker 1>our division was in charge of the security for the

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<v Speaker 1>polling sites during the first national Iraqi elections in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand five. That was a little bit scary, but a

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<v Speaker 1>great opportunity for him again because he was just on

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<v Speaker 1>the road all the time. One of the reasons why

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<v Speaker 1>we are adamant about voting and talking to these younger

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<v Speaker 1>generations about why it's so important to vote and use

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<v Speaker 1>their voice when they're voting is in Iraq, people were

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<v Speaker 1>waiting in line to vote to make their voice heard

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time ever. And there were suicide bombers.

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<v Speaker 1>There was vehicle bombs, there is roadside bombs, there were

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<v Speaker 1>attacks on polling places to silence those voices. After my

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<v Speaker 1>husband and his teams would go out to clean up

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<v Speaker 1>these polling sites, people would be their waiting in line

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<v Speaker 1>again to make their voices heard. So it's it was

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<v Speaker 1>that important to them that despite these attacks, they would

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<v Speaker 1>go to the polling sites. And while you're there, what

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<v Speaker 1>type of work are you doing in Iraq? So when

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<v Speaker 1>I was over there, I had two different jobs. So

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<v Speaker 1>the first half of the deployment, I was in charge

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<v Speaker 1>of these drones by planes. They were the shadow tactical

0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:01.840
<v Speaker 1>unmanned aerial vehicles. I was a first person with a

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<v Speaker 1>third infortuted division to have that type of equipment. Myself,

0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:10.800
<v Speaker 1>my company commander, and our first sergeant. We received our

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<v Speaker 1>equipment and we also welcomed our first soldiers into that

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<v Speaker 1>unit in July of two thousand and four and then

0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:22.040
<v Speaker 1>had to train and prepare for deployment by February of

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand five. So that was a really unique experience

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<v Speaker 1>because there was only one other unit in the army

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<v Speaker 1>who had been doing it, and they had just done

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<v Speaker 1>it the year prior to us arriving, So it's a

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<v Speaker 1>really steep learning curve. One of the things I think

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<v Speaker 1>I learned out of that deployment and out of that

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<v Speaker 1>experience of being a platoon leader is you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>get your soldiers, it's a really wide age range of

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<v Speaker 1>people that you are thrown in together with all varying backgrounds,

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<v Speaker 1>and then me as a platoon leader, I had the

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<v Speaker 1>least experience among all of them, but I was looked

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<v Speaker 1>at as a leader. So so really, I think for

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<v Speaker 1>for me, one of the things that I've always tried

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<v Speaker 1>to do as a good leader, a good manager, or

0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:10.080
<v Speaker 1>even just a friend is just making sure that you

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<v Speaker 1>take care of your people, you know, making sure that

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<v Speaker 1>when we got over to Iraq, they were calling their

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<v Speaker 1>families and they had been in touch with their families

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<v Speaker 1>to let them know they had gotten there, making sure

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<v Speaker 1>that they needed what they needed to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>do their jobs well and to be able to make

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<v Speaker 1>it home. And so, my guys, we had a laundren

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<v Speaker 1>recovery site located out of Taji, which is just north

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<v Speaker 1>of Baghdad. It was our responsibility to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>these drones were conducting two seven operations on reconnaissance to

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<v Speaker 1>ensure the safety of our coalition and US multinational forces.

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<v Speaker 1>My guys saved a lot of lives from the work

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<v Speaker 1>that they did, and it was work that that couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>go without a break. So we literally had birds up

0:17:57.920 --> 0:17:59.679
<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours a day, seven days a week, the

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<v Speaker 1>entire year. I want to talk now about your life

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<v Speaker 1>after the military, starting with your retirement from the Army.

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<v Speaker 1>When did you know it was the right time to

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<v Speaker 1>leave and what was that transition into civilian life like.

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<v Speaker 1>So after my deployment to Iraq in two thousand five

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<v Speaker 1>to two thousand six UM and obviously meeting my husband

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<v Speaker 1>and then getting married and all of that stuff, the

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<v Speaker 1>Army at the time was doing these extended deployments where

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<v Speaker 1>they were going to be deployed for eighteen months sometimes more,

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<v Speaker 1>and we decided at that time that maybe being dual

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<v Speaker 1>military wasn't the right fit for us. At the time,

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<v Speaker 1>just starting a family and everything that we wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 1>The situation with my mother was improving and she had

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity as well to be released from prison, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it was at that point in time that we

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<v Speaker 1>decided that leaving the military was going to be the

0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:56.000
<v Speaker 1>right decision for us. So in two thousand seven is

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<v Speaker 1>when we got out and we moved to Colorado where

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<v Speaker 1>I was born and raised, and we were able to

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<v Speaker 1>be with my grandmother, my brothers, and then also helped

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<v Speaker 1>support my mom as she transitioned out from the prison

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<v Speaker 1>system and then helped her with her transition into civilian

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<v Speaker 1>life as well. What drew you to volunteering and working

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<v Speaker 1>with nonprofits during this time? In two thousand and eight,

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<v Speaker 1>the Medal of Honor convention came to Colorado, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is when I met all these veterans who had received

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<v Speaker 1>the Medal of Honor, and the Medal of Honor is

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<v Speaker 1>the highest award bestowed upon any military service member, and

0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:45.960
<v Speaker 1>these true real life heroes were just so humble and

0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:48.199
<v Speaker 1>many of them had their own stories that they were

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<v Speaker 1>willing to share with us. And it was in that

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<v Speaker 1>point that I realized that I wanted to do more

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<v Speaker 1>for veterans. Being a veteran myself, I think for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of veter ends leaving the military, that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that we all miss the most is that

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<v Speaker 1>we have this higher purpose and greater mission that we

0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:11.760
<v Speaker 1>are all going towards. With volunteering, I was looking for

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<v Speaker 1>something to contribute to and to just better myself and

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<v Speaker 1>better the community that I was living in and so

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<v Speaker 1>using my post nine eleven g I Bill, I decided

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<v Speaker 1>to go to school to get my master's degree and

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<v Speaker 1>start working in the nonprofit sector. So the first nonprofit

0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:31.440
<v Speaker 1>organization that I worked for was called Veterans Green Jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>They were interested in helping veterans who are transitioning out

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<v Speaker 1>of the military to get jobs in the green energy sector,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it was a really great organization to be

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<v Speaker 1>part of. I was surrounded by other veterans who wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to just help our fellow brothers and sisters and arms,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm still again very good friends with many of them,

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<v Speaker 1>just because of that common interest and the common path

0:20:57.119 --> 0:21:00.720
<v Speaker 1>that we took together. Working at Veterans Green Jobs really

0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:04.640
<v Speaker 1>helped me to refine how I wanted to help veterans,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was in employment. It was helping them discover

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<v Speaker 1>what they wanted to do post military, the skills that

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<v Speaker 1>they had learned, and the leadership that they had been taught,

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<v Speaker 1>and how all of that can transition into a successful

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<v Speaker 1>civilian career where they can work for companies that they're

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<v Speaker 1>proud of, where they can have jobs that are well

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<v Speaker 1>paying and support their families and just be out in

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<v Speaker 1>their communities again, So where did things go from there?

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<v Speaker 1>What was the next tour for you in your career

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<v Speaker 1>after Veterans Green Jobs. So I started working with many

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<v Speaker 1>companies across the country and helping them to recruit veterans,

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<v Speaker 1>essentially like a headhunter almost, but again we were a

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<v Speaker 1>nonprofit organization and helping veterans achieve employment. And so with

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<v Speaker 1>with that came a lot of connections into companies that

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<v Speaker 1>were interest in hiring veterans. Xcel Energy was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the companies that I partnered with. They operate out of Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they also have corporate headquarters in Colorado and Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>and so being in Colorado, it was a really great

0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:20.600
<v Speaker 1>opportunity for me to work with this company, this utility

0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:23.680
<v Speaker 1>company that had so many great jobs and were interested

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<v Speaker 1>in hiring veterans. Again, it was just really great timing

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<v Speaker 1>where after I had graduated from Regis in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and ten, and then the CEO of Xcel Energy in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and twelve actually testified in front of the

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<v Speaker 1>joint chiefs about why it's smart to hire veterans, why

0:22:42.720 --> 0:22:47.120
<v Speaker 1>it was a good business case to hire veterans. With

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<v Speaker 1>that came internally the interest and intentionality of Xcel Energy

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to hire veterans and create a veteran hiring program

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<v Speaker 1>internal to the company, and I was brought in to

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<v Speaker 1>launch their internal veteran hiring program, which to this day

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<v Speaker 1>we still hire ten percent military veterans. External to the company,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a fantastic internal employee Veterans Affinity group, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's just a lot of people who do a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of good for veterans in the communities where we work,

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<v Speaker 1>live and play. Now I am an account manager working

0:23:25.880 --> 0:23:30.159
<v Speaker 1>with large customers and communities to help them achieve their

0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:34.840
<v Speaker 1>energy goals and sustainability goals, but I'm still very involved

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<v Speaker 1>in that employee affinity group. I'm actually the chair of

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<v Speaker 1>the Military Veterans Employee Group at XL and we do

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<v Speaker 1>a lot as far as supporting our employees who are

0:23:46.600 --> 0:23:49.960
<v Speaker 1>currently serving in the National Garden Reserve, who may be

0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:56.160
<v Speaker 1>going on active training or deployments, supporting them and their families.

0:23:56.359 --> 0:23:59.080
<v Speaker 1>We do a lot of volunteering in the communities, helping

0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:06.240
<v Speaker 1>homeless veterans, building care packages, renovating homes, writing letters to

0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:11.280
<v Speaker 1>veterans who are in our nursing centers and community living centers.

0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:13.200
<v Speaker 1>So we do a lot in the community through that

0:24:13.320 --> 0:24:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Veterans program, and so it's in that way that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still able to give back to the veteran community and

0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:21.439
<v Speaker 1>to help my brothers and sisters in arms. What are

0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 1>some of the biggest obstacles or misconceptions around employment for veterans,

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<v Speaker 1>both from an employer and a veterans perspective. I think

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<v Speaker 1>for a lot of transitioning veterans coming out of the

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<v Speaker 1>military and directly into civilian life is we don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>the full breadth and scope of everything that we achieved

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<v Speaker 1>in the military being really attractive to the employers and

0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:48.040
<v Speaker 1>to the companies who want to hire us. The average

0:24:48.080 --> 0:24:52.159
<v Speaker 1>soldier is in charge of millions of dollars of equipment,

0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:55.120
<v Speaker 1>they're in charge of each other, They're taught so many

0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:58.280
<v Speaker 1>leadership skills, but you don't really realize all of that

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<v Speaker 1>because it's just part of your day to day while

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:05.040
<v Speaker 1>you're serving in the military. It's nothing really special, it's

0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:10.439
<v Speaker 1>nothing really that stands out. But to the civilian mindset

0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:13.360
<v Speaker 1>and to corporate America, it does stand out, and I

0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 1>think people need to understand that sounds almost like you

0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:20.920
<v Speaker 1>were teaching veterans how to remarket their skill sets. Yes,

0:25:21.080 --> 0:25:24.040
<v Speaker 1>that's exactly right, is remarketing the skills that you've acquired

0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:27.000
<v Speaker 1>in the military. You're you're given a job, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>given an MS or a designation for what your job is,

0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:35.040
<v Speaker 1>and that's really all you think that you're doing. But

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:39.360
<v Speaker 1>as one of my mentors put it perfectly is veterans,

0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:43.960
<v Speaker 1>you're more than your MS. You are the leadership that

0:25:44.000 --> 0:25:47.480
<v Speaker 1>you've learned from. You are the people and the culture

0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:52.040
<v Speaker 1>and the diversity that you've surrounded yourselves with, and you're

0:25:52.080 --> 0:25:56.800
<v Speaker 1>the experiences that came with your MOS. And so it's

0:25:57.280 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 1>really unique experience being a veteran coming out into the workplace.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the biggest misconception, unfortunately with veterans is the

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<v Speaker 1>stigma around PTSD. PTSD isn't just a veteran issue, it

0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:15.240
<v Speaker 1>is it is a human issue. Um. Anybody can suffer

0:26:15.280 --> 0:26:19.080
<v Speaker 1>from PTSD, and and while it's true many veterans UM

0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 1>have big diagnosed with PTSD, it doesn't mean they're not employable.

0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Many who are diagnosed know what the triggers are and

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 1>they avoid them or they have ways of dealing with them,

0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 1>and they can function just as fine in the civilian

0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:39.399
<v Speaker 1>workplace as anybody else, What are some of the causes

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<v Speaker 1>and organizations that you really care about and that you

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 1>continue to work with today. The causes that I care

0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:47.399
<v Speaker 1>about really kind of run the gamut, and they have changed,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say over the last decade that I've lived

0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:56.680
<v Speaker 1>in Colorado. I would say one Veterans obviously is still

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<v Speaker 1>probably one of the top priority of causes for me,

0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:04.600
<v Speaker 1>and so just volunteering and working with a number of

0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:08.600
<v Speaker 1>the veterans serving organizations is still there. I've also been

0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 1>on the board for Women Veterans of Colorado, which is

0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:17.240
<v Speaker 1>a organization that just brings together women veterans in Colorado.

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:21.960
<v Speaker 1>It gives us a platform and a space to come

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:26.160
<v Speaker 1>together as women who have served in the military, who

0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:28.879
<v Speaker 1>have served in the Armed forces, and have this unique

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:32.120
<v Speaker 1>experience for us to come together and support each other

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:37.200
<v Speaker 1>through the emotional, the physical, the mental kind of all

0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:40.439
<v Speaker 1>the challenges that came with being a woman in the military.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the cool things that I got to do

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:48.119
<v Speaker 1>was actually part of this documentary called Women Warriors, and

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<v Speaker 1>the production team was from a local community college out

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 1>of Front Range Community College, and these students put together

0:27:56.760 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 1>this awesome documentary of women veterans from Colorado from all

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<v Speaker 1>different eras of service from World War Two all the

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<v Speaker 1>way to post nine eleven, and it was a great

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to tell our stories of service and talk about

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<v Speaker 1>our experiences, whether they were good, whether they were bad,

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<v Speaker 1>and how that helped to shape who we are today.

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<v Speaker 1>And that team actually won an Emmy for their work.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a Congressional Record of Service sitting at the

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<v Speaker 1>Library of Congress now um for my contributions to that documentary.

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<v Speaker 1>So just really unique opportunities through women veterans of Colorado

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<v Speaker 1>and really special relationships with with all the ladies that

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<v Speaker 1>I've come to know through that as well. It was

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<v Speaker 1>really an empowering thing for me to join the Army,

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<v Speaker 1>even more empowering now post military service to use the

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<v Speaker 1>voice that I was given back to help others in

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<v Speaker 1>the community, whether it's building the future for my kids,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's for homeless veterans who are suffering and dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with mental health issues, whether it's helping to lay a

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<v Speaker 1>path for other girls like my daughters to follow in

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<v Speaker 1>my footsteps and join the military. My husband and I

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<v Speaker 1>have grand dreams of both of them serving their country.

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<v Speaker 1>I will try to build them up as much as

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<v Speaker 1>I can so that they are they are army strong

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<v Speaker 1>and army ready. But really it'll be up to them. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate your openness so much on so many levels. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you have a tremendous story and also just

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<v Speaker 1>a will that is giving back constantly. So thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for your message, thank you for your story, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for your time, and most importantly, thank you for your service. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Hopefully I'll see around sometime. I'm in Colorado

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<v Speaker 1>quite a bit, so maybe one day I'll see out

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<v Speaker 1>and about for sure. Thanks Bobby. It is inspiring to

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<v Speaker 1>see veterans like Keeney not only volunteer to serve their country,

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<v Speaker 1>but find new ways to continue a life of service

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<v Speaker 1>as civilians too. Thanks for listening to Vets you should

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<v Speaker 1>know check out our other episodes from more great stories

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<v Speaker 1>from inspiring vets who continue to work selflessly and tirelessly

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<v Speaker 1>in civilian life to make positive change. If you like

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