WEBVTT - Strider’s impact, Luis Robert’s shrinking value, O’s missing GM

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<v Speaker 1>Their leadoff men are on basing about two seventy thus

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<v Speaker 1>far this year, and Ronald is a market improvement to that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that makes Olsen better, Riley better.

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<v Speaker 2>Grand McCauley covers the Braves for ninety two nine in

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<v Speaker 2>the game host of From the Diamond, among many other

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<v Speaker 2>gigs all over the Brave scene. Back with us, Grant,

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<v Speaker 2>we love having you on, Thanks for the time, give

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<v Speaker 2>us the goods. First on Spencer Strider. So he's back

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<v Speaker 2>and had very I would say candid words about how

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<v Speaker 2>he was pissed about his first start pack, then his

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<v Speaker 2>second start of the year and second start since the

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<v Speaker 2>long surgery. So where are we at with him?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is going to be a matter of,

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<v Speaker 1>in some respects knocking the rust off. And it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a shame that he works so hard for a

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<v Speaker 1>calendar year to get himself back, only to land on

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<v Speaker 1>the injured list with a separate malady that caused him

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<v Speaker 1>to sit around. And I say that loosely because obviously

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<v Speaker 1>he was still working over that time. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to kind of have to get back to

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<v Speaker 1>where he was before the hamstring and then find his

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<v Speaker 1>way to make his incremental improvements. But there is no

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<v Speaker 1>two ways about the fact that this is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most competitive pitchers players I think maybe in any

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<v Speaker 1>sport for that matter. And he's very candid and he's

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<v Speaker 1>very direct about his expectations for himself and what he

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<v Speaker 1>wants to provide to the Atlanta Braves. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>you heard some of that or read some of that

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<v Speaker 1>after last night's start. It's kind of a journey throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the course of coming back from an injury like this

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<v Speaker 1>to get back to where he wants to get to.

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<v Speaker 1>But if hard work and those and talent we combine

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<v Speaker 1>the way that they have for Spencer Strider in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>I would think that he's going to find his way there.

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<v Speaker 3>It just might take a little while.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I agree totally with you. This guy is

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<v Speaker 4>an absolute stud. He's been doing it for a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of years now. Now. My question along those lines are,

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<v Speaker 4>how did how does his teammates perceive him? I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>he talks this you know, big thing about you know,

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<v Speaker 4>not doing well, which I think is courageous. I think

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<v Speaker 4>is honesty. I love honesty, Like, how do how do

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<v Speaker 4>his team mates take them? And they got to be

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<v Speaker 4>happy as a clam right now having him back.

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<v Speaker 3>No doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I actually heard Mett Olson say after a game

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<v Speaker 1>on the recent homestand or the recent road trip rather

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<v Speaker 1>that like, he's one of the leaders of this club.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that it's easy to see and easy

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<v Speaker 1>to understand why because of who he is and how

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<v Speaker 1>he approaches the game on and off the field. He

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<v Speaker 1>has a tremendous respect, I think, for his opportunity and

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<v Speaker 1>his job each and every time he takes the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's one of the things that I think makes

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<v Speaker 1>him so authentic. And I think we all like authenticity,

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<v Speaker 1>and Spencer Strider is one of those people that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>come around too incredibly often, so it's tremendous to have

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<v Speaker 1>him back in there. But obviously he knows he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to get himself back to that level physically where he's

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<v Speaker 1>able to impact the game the way that he's used

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<v Speaker 1>to doing prior to this most recent elbow surgery.

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<v Speaker 4>I think this next streak they have going along here

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<v Speaker 4>they got after Washington, here, they got San Diego, Philly

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<v Speaker 4>and Boston. I feel like this is gonna, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 4>prove to be where they're at right now. During the season,

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<v Speaker 4>not saying if they do bad, they're not going to

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<v Speaker 4>climb back, but this is a big series coming up.

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<v Speaker 4>Where do you see this Brave's team. They're five hundred

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<v Speaker 4>right now, where do you see this going?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And how hard was it to get to five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>when you start to season zero and seven. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think they probably felt behind or behind the eight ball

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit early on, but we're able to keep

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<v Speaker 1>the confidence that it is a long season, it's a marathon.

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<v Speaker 1>And once they were able to get back to some

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<v Speaker 1>version of full strength, which obviously we can talk about

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<v Speaker 1>how Ron Lacuna Junior could factor into that they were

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<v Speaker 1>going to play the kind of baseball they expect to.

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<v Speaker 1>And since starting out five and thirteen, they pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>have played at about a six hundred clip. That will

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<v Speaker 1>punch your ticket to the postseason, even if you've had

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<v Speaker 1>a less than stellar start, and that ultimately is their

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<v Speaker 1>big goal. But you're going to have to test yourself

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<v Speaker 1>against the kinds of teams that you're going to see there.

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<v Speaker 1>They know all about the Padres and the Phillies and

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<v Speaker 1>clubs like that, especially the last three years in October,

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<v Speaker 1>So even if nobody's looking at it and saying it

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<v Speaker 1>is to your point, the end all be all. You'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to measure yourself up against the be and feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you're on the right path. And I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Braves have been. But this will be the latest test

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of see where this version of the Braves

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<v Speaker 1>is at this point in the season.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, they you know, they don't want to be five hundred,

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<v Speaker 3>but they're happy that they're five hundred right now based

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<v Speaker 3>on how it started. But back to Strider, how long

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<v Speaker 3>do you think the ORG can continue to lean on

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<v Speaker 3>him or how long do you think the ORG feels

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<v Speaker 3>like they're fine with some diminished velocity. You saw him

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<v Speaker 3>get hurt yesterday by breaking balls that you're like, eh,

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<v Speaker 3>normally those breaking balls are not the ones he's throwing

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<v Speaker 3>in those locations. And then he got hit hurt by

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<v Speaker 3>ninety five by Dylan Cruz. He looked more mortal. So

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<v Speaker 3>how long can the ORG say, hey, you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>we know, we're not going to get one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 3>Strider for the first however many starts. But how long

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<v Speaker 3>is that for the Braves? Yeah, it's a good question.

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<v Speaker 1>I think as long as he's competitive in keeping them

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<v Speaker 1>in game, he will continue to get the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>make those improvements and to get back to where he is.

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<v Speaker 1>But obviously, to the point of everything that everybody's doing

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<v Speaker 1>all year long, you want to win. And that's not

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<v Speaker 1>lost on Spencer's strider either, which is why I think

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<v Speaker 1>those comments last night, particularly referencing, Look, they had to

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<v Speaker 1>send Bryce Elder out for me to get this chance,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not pitching well. And if I don't pitch well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't deserve to be out there. So with that,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the backdrop of all of this. If those Candi

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<v Speaker 1>comments are to be taking at face value, which I

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<v Speaker 1>have no reason to believe they're not, he understands what's

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<v Speaker 1>at stake. If he's not able to make these adjustments,

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<v Speaker 1>now are the days of ninety seven ninety eight continually

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<v Speaker 1>in the zone and you know this fastball slider behind him.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'm prepared to say that, because

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<v Speaker 1>I think that Spencer wanted to make some improvements to

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<v Speaker 1>his arsenal that allowed him to be able to be

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<v Speaker 1>a true pitcher and to have that finesse and to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to have options to keep hitters off of

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<v Speaker 1>certain pitches and just evolve, I guess, but at some

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<v Speaker 1>point I think you got to go with what works.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said this before to him last spring when

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<v Speaker 1>the curveball was the big conversation. Look, I'm a fastball,

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<v Speaker 1>slider pitcher. I know that, but I do like to

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<v Speaker 1>have other options, and I think he's trying to work

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<v Speaker 1>on some of those.

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<v Speaker 3>But back to the.

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<v Speaker 1>Main point, You've got to be able to compete with

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<v Speaker 1>your best stuff, and I think that Spencer Strider is

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<v Speaker 1>not quite there in terms of his absolute best and

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<v Speaker 1>most consistent fastball for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, first I need to ask a question to set

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<v Speaker 3>up my next question. It's just yes or no. Rono

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<v Speaker 3>Viccunya will not be an MVP caliber player right when

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<v Speaker 3>he gets back. I'm gonna say no, Okay, that's fine,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's fine. I'm not gonna hold you to it.

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<v Speaker 3>If he does awesome, great, not expecting seventy bags, a

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<v Speaker 3>million homers, all that stuff. Yet with Olsen just hitting

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<v Speaker 3>with not Olsen just hitting his tenth home run, I

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<v Speaker 3>think last night, is he the biggest key or is

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<v Speaker 3>Austin Riley the biggest key in this lineup moving forward

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>I think moving forward, the rest of this. If we're

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<v Speaker 1>putting Acuna over off into his own special category, that

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Olson is probably the most important X factor Outside

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<v Speaker 1>of that, I think we've seen what we need to

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<v Speaker 1>see from Austin Riley, But I would probably put those

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<v Speaker 1>guys in a dead heat, a one A one B

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<v Speaker 1>kind of scenario if you're talking about the importance of

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<v Speaker 1>stacking this lineup to do the kind of damage the

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<v Speaker 1>Braves are accustomed to. But keep in mind what Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Olsen was a couple of years ago, a fifty plus

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<v Speaker 1>homer hitter who can drive in one hundred and forty runs.

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<v Speaker 1>If that's the ceiling, and maybe it's the outlier, it's

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<v Speaker 1>still not crazy to think that he can do seventy

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<v Speaker 1>five percent of that, which would make him by my

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<v Speaker 1>simple math, you're a forty homer hitter who couldkno get

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred ten or one hundred and twenty runs, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is most definitely what the Braves need. But to

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<v Speaker 1>drive in those kind of runs, how about having Acunya

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<v Speaker 1>back at the top of the order, even if he's

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<v Speaker 1>not the MVP. For his career per one sixty two,

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<v Speaker 1>Ronald has averaged one hundred and thirty runs score. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what they need at the top of the order because

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<v Speaker 1>their leadoff men are on basing about two seventy thus

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<v Speaker 1>far this year, and Ronald is a market improvement to that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that makes Olsen better, Riley better, Ozuna better,

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<v Speaker 1>and on down the list.

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<v Speaker 3>At Has Nick Allen filled in admirably or just filled

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<v Speaker 3>in for this Braves team?

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's filled in admirably. Defensively speaking, he has

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<v Speaker 1>been above and beyond I think anybody's realistic expectations, even

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<v Speaker 1>if you kind of knew maybe he was a glove

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<v Speaker 1>first infielder, the plays that he makes, the setup that

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<v Speaker 1>he has, the instincts that he has, I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been very, very impressive. And he's not going to hit

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<v Speaker 1>a ton. I think we've kind of seen, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what we saw coming in. Maybe that's there's not much there,

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<v Speaker 1>though his minor league numbers were encouraging that maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a little something.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think if the rest of this lineup is hitting,

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<v Speaker 1>you're pretty happy with what you're getting defensively. But to

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<v Speaker 1>go back to the conversation of the winter and really,

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<v Speaker 1>since Dansby Swanson left, are the Braves settled at shortstop?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not convinced of that.

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<v Speaker 4>Still a lot of question marks, and we're forty eight

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<v Speaker 4>games in, we're almost what we're getting there. It seems

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<v Speaker 4>like the year is flying right by my question to

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<v Speaker 4>you is, I know it's a little far away, but

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<v Speaker 4>can you see this team during the trade deadline do

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<v Speaker 4>something here, especially if they are, you know, a few

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<v Speaker 4>games out, or is this a team right now? It's like,

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<v Speaker 4>we'll see where we go. Hopefully we get everybody back

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<v Speaker 4>after injury.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like they're set up to do something at

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<v Speaker 1>the trade deadline, and there's almost more pressure to do

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<v Speaker 1>so because they weren't able to accomplish their winter goals.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, in no version of the script would I say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the Braves looked at their pitching staff and thought they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't need anything. I think they would have liked to

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<v Speaker 1>have gotten another high leverage reliever, which was only exacerbated

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<v Speaker 1>when Joey Menez could be out for the year. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think they would have liked to have added somebody

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<v Speaker 1>to fortify the rotation and really give them that standout group.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that those are still areas that they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to go out and shop for now, getting Strider

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<v Speaker 1>back and hopefully finding his form again, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>big part of his return, is an impact arm. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a question about that Acunya back. I mean, what club

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't like to be looking at players like that and

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<v Speaker 1>welcoming those guys back in for the run through the

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<v Speaker 1>dog days this summer and beyond the trade deadline and

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<v Speaker 1>all the things that are ahead. So I think that

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<v Speaker 1>they are poised to do something at the trade deadline,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've heard Alex Anthopolos talk about it. The math

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<v Speaker 1>for them, how they look at the luxury tax and

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<v Speaker 1>when you get to the trade deadline, you're really only

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<v Speaker 1>talking about having to pay for a third of that

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<v Speaker 1>player's salary for the year. So I think that could

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<v Speaker 1>make them a very intriguing team out there lurking for

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<v Speaker 1>some big names and some big ads when the trade

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<v Speaker 1>deadline does get here, and to be frank, they might

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<v Speaker 1>need them.

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<v Speaker 3>Does Craig Kimberl get more or less than five saves

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<v Speaker 3>on this season for the Atlanta Braves.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to say less because I do think Ryce

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<v Speaker 1>Eleglacias is capable of figuring it out, so it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of out of Craig Kimberl's hands. He's been trending better

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<v Speaker 1>in Triple A Guinette. I think the velocity is finally

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<v Speaker 1>starting to tick up. He's starting to make back to

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<v Speaker 1>back appearances. I think he could be a factor. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you look at that resume, how could you overlook him

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<v Speaker 1>or underestimate him? But there were some serious questions at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of last year about his ability to be

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<v Speaker 1>that guy in the ninth inning for the final three outs,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a crazy thing to say about someone who's

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<v Speaker 1>fifth all time and saves. But I still think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a Glacius's job to lose. I don't think we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>the best version of ryceell Iglesias, and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>those adjustments can and will be made, and the Braves

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<v Speaker 1>very much need him to because they don't need one

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<v Speaker 1>more question on top of everything else, which is who's

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<v Speaker 1>going to get the last three outs for us?

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<v Speaker 2>Grant, tell me where we're at with Rice l. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean he's still pretty consistently giving up runs. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not seeing even in the past, what five six

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<v Speaker 2>appearances now a lot of clean outings. The era is

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<v Speaker 2>close to six. What are you seeing, right, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>see every single appearance. What are you seeing? And why

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<v Speaker 2>do you think that it can be fixed?

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<v Speaker 1>His home run rate, I believe should normalize. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not going to give up eighteen or twenty home

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<v Speaker 1>runs this year. And the Braves certainly aren't going to

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<v Speaker 1>allow that to happen in the ninth inning most certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're going to have to sort that out. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's the adjustment I think he has to make. Because

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<v Speaker 1>last year he allowed four homers and roughly seventy innings.

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<v Speaker 1>He's already allowed to believe half a dozen in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>or thereabouts innings this year, so that rate is off

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<v Speaker 1>the charts. But he's looked better. I feel like over

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<v Speaker 1>the past week or two. He was used infrequently early on.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that might have kind of gotten

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<v Speaker 1>him a little bit out of the norm coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of spring training because he didn't have save opportunities there

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<v Speaker 1>for about two weeks, so that could be part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But the stuff's still there. I think he's just made

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<v Speaker 1>some mistakes. He's hung some pitches, and he hasn't been

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<v Speaker 1>able to get away with those mistakes. But I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>noticed anything that makes me feel like Ryce I Iglesias

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<v Speaker 1>looks like a shell of himself, or that he's just

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have it. I think he's just got to make

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<v Speaker 1>those adjustments. The Braves believe he can and he will.

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<v Speaker 1>But as we all know, father time is undefeated and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, closers, relievers. I mean, it's volatile, like you

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<v Speaker 1>just don't have guys that you know, never run into

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<v Speaker 1>a bad patch or a bad you know time in

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<v Speaker 1>their career where they maybe get taken out of that

0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:11.200
<v Speaker 1>leverage position. That being said, that would be the most

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<v Speaker 1>unideal thing to happen at think in the bras bulpin

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<v Speaker 1>as it's currently constructed.

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<v Speaker 2>And the confidence flow of that position, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday we spoke to Pap about it. It's like, even

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<v Speaker 2>if you're unlucky, but it happens a few times in

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<v Speaker 2>a row, things can spiral. Yeah, yeah, so we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>what happens. But Grant always great insight. Great to have

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<v Speaker 2>you on everyone watching here. If you don't already get

0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:38.080
<v Speaker 2>Granted file, you can see everything that he's doing. But

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<v Speaker 2>on Twitter it's just his name first and last, Grant McCauley.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Grant, good to see you. Thanks guys, Let's

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<v Speaker 2>get some more. That's what he said. Let's go to

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<v Speaker 2>Luis Robert through an interpreter. He said, right now, as

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<v Speaker 2>my season is going, I don't think anybody is going

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<v Speaker 2>to take a chance on me. I just focus on

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get better. I can't think of anything else.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's the sub two hundred batting average, sub

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<v Speaker 2>three hundre on base, just a hair over three hundred

0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:09.120
<v Speaker 2>on his slugging percentage. You're kind of like, damn, what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>This was a really fun player to watch. He's had

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<v Speaker 2>trouble staying on the field, but it's like space jam. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>someone took his powers.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, listen, I'm not a big fan of the quote.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like he's kind of throwing in the towel here.

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<v Speaker 4>How about how about saying, hey, listen, I know I'm struggling,

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<v Speaker 4>but I'm one bad away from getting my mind right

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<v Speaker 4>and getting after it. I want to He's a confident guy.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe he's gonna get back on track. I like

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<v Speaker 4>the way he plays. I mean, listen, a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>years ago, I have forty home runs, one or two

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<v Speaker 4>home runs. He had thirty eight or thirty nine, and

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<v Speaker 4>he's he's fine. He's just going through it right now.

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<v Speaker 4>You know that kind of quote there that would steer

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<v Speaker 4>me away from wanting a guy the confidence. I mean, listen,

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<v Speaker 4>you're in the big leagues for a reason. You're going

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<v Speaker 4>to struggle. That's part of it. It's how you get

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<v Speaker 4>out of it. All of the sun. These next three weeks,

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<v Speaker 4>he can go off on a terry, but about in

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<v Speaker 4>two fifteen, no time. That's that's the biggest problem. The

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<v Speaker 4>psyche up here. You gotta be mentally strong in baseball

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<v Speaker 4>and here a quote like that. It's kind of sad

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<v Speaker 4>at the same time because we know and we've seen

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<v Speaker 4>him do really good. I just think he's mentally needs

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<v Speaker 4>to get right and understand how good he really is.

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<v Speaker 3>Chris gets he's like, no, stop stop talking, stop talking.

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<v Speaker 3>This has been the mo around him, and we had

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<v Speaker 3>never really heard much from him. The m around him

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<v Speaker 3>was like, don't know, Like is he fully engaged every

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<v Speaker 3>game because he still has his superpowers. He clearly wants

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<v Speaker 3>to get a stolen base he's got. I think he's

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<v Speaker 3>leading the league right now. I think he's got seventeen

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<v Speaker 3>or eighteen stone bases. Like he's running when he's on

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<v Speaker 3>his on base percentage, while it is lower than his

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<v Speaker 3>career norm, his walk rate has gone up. Maybe that's

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<v Speaker 3>because nobody's around him. To me, if he he's a

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<v Speaker 3>change of scenery guy, the GM that trades for him,

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<v Speaker 3>is taking a risk that wherever he fits into, he's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be like, you know what I want. I

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<v Speaker 3>want to win and I want to be the best

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<v Speaker 3>player that I can be, because when he is that guy,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't believe in outliers. I don't believe, and I

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<v Speaker 3>believe when you have a season, an elite season like

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<v Speaker 3>he had, you're only playing under that. That is not

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<v Speaker 3>like he'll never reach that again. I disagree. I think

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<v Speaker 3>he's playing below those expectations. And really, it's hard to

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<v Speaker 3>come to the park every day if you're not motivated

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<v Speaker 3>for something. He's got a contract, it's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit till he needs another contract. But your

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<v Speaker 3>team is losing one hundred games back to back seasons.

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<v Speaker 3>Last year they weren't even competitive at all. So it's hard.

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<v Speaker 3>It's hard to get going for some guys because he's

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<v Speaker 3>not really he's not playing for his life. And if

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<v Speaker 3>he keeps malasing through the season, he's not gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>any trade value.

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<v Speaker 2>He's right, he's not gonna cost as much right now.

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<v Speaker 2>If the White Sox do want to move him. It

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<v Speaker 2>gets tricky for the Socks though, because then you're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we have basically no payroll, so that's not the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>We might as well let him try to find it

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<v Speaker 2>again and increase his value. There's still years left on

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<v Speaker 2>the deal. It's not like he's a free agent after

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<v Speaker 2>this season either, So it does get tricky when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to the asking price.

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<v Speaker 4>That's very tricky, and it's not a good time for

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<v Speaker 4>the White Sox right now at all. I mean to

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<v Speaker 4>get anybody really in return.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Alloy was a very promising bat and by the

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<v Speaker 2>end of trade deadline time last year, the Orioles picked

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<v Speaker 2>him up. Are like the Orioles and I don't remember

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<v Speaker 2>it being a big return. And you're like, or he might.

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<v Speaker 2>Did he get cut or did he get traded? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know whatever it was. My point is, CRATSN

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<v Speaker 2>that was a really good looking group for a very

0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:08.320
<v Speaker 2>short period of time, and these guys aren't old in

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<v Speaker 2>baseball terms.

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<v Speaker 3>We are we saying the Orioles are going to be

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<v Speaker 3>those that trifecta, the Orioles trifecta. Are they going to

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<v Speaker 3>be what the White Sox trifecta ended up being? I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>think about the White Sox. They had e Lloyd, they had,

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<v Speaker 3>they had Yoamankata, Luise, Robert. All of them kind of

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<v Speaker 3>fizzled at the same time. Not old not you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they didn't. The only thing they lost was Jose Abrahu,

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of leader in the clubhouse, the guy that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of kept them accountable, and then their production went down. Orioles,

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<v Speaker 3>are they gonna see the same thing from Gunner and

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<v Speaker 3>Adlee or are they going to be able to turn

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<v Speaker 3>it around?

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<v Speaker 2>Joan, Luis, Robert and Looyjmenez are not thirty years old yet,

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<v Speaker 2>none of them that's in Yawn's twenty nine. Eloye is

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eight, Robert is twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>How many managers did they have through their prime of

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<v Speaker 3>their time in Chicago. Shame on the Chicago organization. That's

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<v Speaker 3>all I have to say about that. Shame on them

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<v Speaker 3>for not putting people in their lives to get the

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<v Speaker 3>most out of them. I Ultimately it's up to them. Ultimately,

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<v Speaker 3>it's up to each of those guys. But they went

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<v Speaker 3>through I'm not sure who the manager was before Tony LaRussa.

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<v Speaker 2>I can do this game with you.

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<v Speaker 4>Go ahead, I can.

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<v Speaker 2>I can get the year, the year to year, just

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<v Speaker 2>so we can try and track how many managers they had.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I'm forgetting who was there there before Tony.

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<v Speaker 4>I was. I was there with Rick.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, let's start with what's the first season. So

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<v Speaker 2>Mancata's first year with the White Sox was twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 3>Clearly, clearly because Todd forgot that they were teammates. So

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<v Speaker 3>I remember that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, so we know what they so ready for this toia? Right,

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<v Speaker 2>Rick Rentoia was your manager, right in twenty seventeen, Griffall what.

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<v Speaker 4>Was his name?

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<v Speaker 2>Fall was later? Yeah, then you had Tony Larusa, right,

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<v Speaker 2>it took over for Rick yep, yep, Miguel Cairo after Tony.

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<v Speaker 2>I was brief but Cairo, So that's three Besa, Pedro

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<v Speaker 2>Grifol that's four, Grady Sizemore that's five, And for the

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<v Speaker 2>Robert who's still there, it's Will Venable. I'm counting six

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<v Speaker 2>managers since twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want somebody to be engaged, if you want

0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:23.600
<v Speaker 3>somebody to be engaged, you also have to be engaged

0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:26.960
<v Speaker 3>with them. You also have to build up that rapport,

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<v Speaker 3>that relationship. And sometimes we fail as leaders, as managers,

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<v Speaker 3>as coaches at being engaged with our players. But for

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<v Speaker 3>three guys in one organization to have as big a

0:22:42.920 --> 0:22:44.840
<v Speaker 3>lapses as they have, people will be like, oh, at

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<v Speaker 3>least Robert lou Bob he was. He was legit, and

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<v Speaker 3>you're right, he was legit. But to me, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think that is his max. I think he can do

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<v Speaker 3>more because of the skill set that he has.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you got to see what it looks like somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 2>Moncott is actually starting to heat up a little bit.

0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:12.080
<v Speaker 2>Did you see his homer yesterday? Oh my gosh, he pulled.

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<v Speaker 3>The well and he hit well on Triple A Stadium.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hey, do you know what he's up to? Two

0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:23.000
<v Speaker 2>twenty nine batting? But he's he's always been more of

0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:25.680
<v Speaker 2>a play discipline on base guy. Right, he's I don't

0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:28.920
<v Speaker 2>think he's been a big batting average monster two twenty nine.

0:23:29.160 --> 0:23:32.880
<v Speaker 2>It's been okay, mid mid two hundreds, I think average career. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>two fifty three, three forty nine on base, that'll play

0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:40.400
<v Speaker 2>forty six slug for an eight thirty five ops, one

0:23:40.480 --> 0:23:44.000
<v Speaker 2>thirty four ops plus that'll play.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>That I've never seen. I've seen different eyeblacks. I've seen

0:23:49.080 --> 0:23:54.880
<v Speaker 3>the cross, I've seen the lines. I think somebody Cobby's

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<v Speaker 3>using it in LA or in the rays. He's in

0:23:57.840 --> 0:24:03.280
<v Speaker 3>a double line. He did dots. He went dot dot

0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:05.879
<v Speaker 3>dot dot dot. It was like he had Morse code

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<v Speaker 3>on his EyeBlack.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I like that.

0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:11.600
<v Speaker 3>That's fun flash.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, yeah, why regular EyeBlack.

0:24:15.760 --> 0:24:20.320
<v Speaker 3>That's tired, really tired. But there's that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah under the lights. But hey, good for the Angels,

0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:27.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, nice pickup. I mean he might be trade

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<v Speaker 2>bait if things don't work out for them, but clearly

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<v Speaker 2>this is a guy who moves on from another from

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<v Speaker 2>that org and then.

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<v Speaker 4>He's been playing for a while now too.

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<v Speaker 2>That should be a good selling point for the socks, Like, hey,

0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:42.800
<v Speaker 2>did you see how we screwed up you on Mancata

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<v Speaker 2>and what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, this could.

0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Be yours, Luise, Robert could be yours.

0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:49.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what he said.

0:24:49.400 --> 0:24:50.359
<v Speaker 2>That's what he said.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what he said.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what he said. We were waiting for.

0:24:58.760 --> 0:24:59.679
<v Speaker 4>That's what he said.

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<v Speaker 2>On and the Oriols front office leader for not one,

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<v Speaker 2>not two, but three days after he fires manager Brandon Hyde,

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<v Speaker 2>who some thought would be the guy to lead the

0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:14.280
<v Speaker 2>Orioles to a World Series title or at least be

0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:16.480
<v Speaker 2>a big part of this franchise for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Got players and tears in the clubhouse after that went down.

0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:24.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure many of them feel responsible, but also that

0:25:25.760 --> 0:25:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Hide should be the manager of this team, and he

0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:31.480
<v Speaker 2>probably will be a successful manager with someone else. Let's

0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:35.159
<v Speaker 2>get some bizz here. So the question was asked to

0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Elias on why he waited three days to speak publicly

0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:42.920
<v Speaker 2>about Hyde's dismissal. The quote, it's a pretty hectic few days.

0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:47.080
<v Speaker 2>Got Tony as in Mansolino, the interms manager in place,

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:49.920
<v Speaker 2>and traveled up here with the team and just needed

0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:52.520
<v Speaker 2>a couple of days. Jacob Calvin Meyer's been on the

0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:55.440
<v Speaker 2>show covers the oriols on a daily basis, said Michael

0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:58.639
<v Speaker 2>Lias's players were not given that same privilege of a

0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:02.640
<v Speaker 2>few days. Half of the clubhouse spoke on Saturday, right,

0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:06.000
<v Speaker 2>and Elias didn't speak until Tuesday. The first player that

0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:08.520
<v Speaker 2>had to speak was a twenty one year old, as

0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:11.479
<v Speaker 2>in Jackson Holliday. Others had to hold back tears. These

0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:13.120
<v Speaker 2>are the same players who have MIC's in their face

0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:15.600
<v Speaker 2>minutes after blowing a safe or striking out to end

0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:19.760
<v Speaker 2>a game. Really well worded tweet in my mind to

0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:23.280
<v Speaker 2>say you've done this after a game. You're there, right,

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:26.080
<v Speaker 2>You always showed up, You're accountable. Sure, we don't ask

0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:29.000
<v Speaker 2>for the gms to talk all the time, but when

0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:31.960
<v Speaker 2>they do something like this, they need to be available

0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:35.160
<v Speaker 2>pretty quickly to explain it so that it doesn't fall

0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:37.240
<v Speaker 2>on you. Matchine for three days, you've got to be

0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:40.000
<v Speaker 2>in the clubhouse getting asked about why Hide's gone and

0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:42.199
<v Speaker 2>how things are different and whatever. Not to mention they

0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:45.000
<v Speaker 2>lost all three games. Yeah, I mean, would you be

0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:48.680
<v Speaker 2>pissed if you're a player? Yeah, I a little disappointed.

0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 4>I mean just the disappointment would be that he needed

0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:54.159
<v Speaker 4>to take a couple of days hearing that you know,

0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:57.480
<v Speaker 4>if he didn't say anything. Listen, their business man. At

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<v Speaker 4>the end of the day, they do whatever the heck

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<v Speaker 4>they want. If I'm worried about what he's going to say,

0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:03.960
<v Speaker 4>or what he's not going to say, or where the

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:06.240
<v Speaker 4>heck he is, then I'm not focused on the task

0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 4>at hand. So yeah, maybe you're like, oh, where the

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 4>heck did he go? But for him to say I

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 4>need a couple of days off that that would be like,

0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:16.120
<v Speaker 4>you know, okay, wow, okay, what do you want to say?

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:21.600
<v Speaker 2>Ten minutes is all it takes, right, everybody, everybody can

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 2>put ten minutes together, and this like should be one

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:27.280
<v Speaker 2>of your top responsibilities, like you make the movie everything.

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:29.520
<v Speaker 4>You should be speaking. It's the time.

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:32.959
<v Speaker 2>Well, because obviously for you, you're going to be like, hey, whatever,

0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's his thing. He's going to talk when

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:37.280
<v Speaker 2>he talks. My only thing is like you played in

0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:39.160
<v Speaker 2>New York, they're going to be MIC's in your face

0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:42.520
<v Speaker 2>every day and you're I know what you'd say, I mean, asked,

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:44.479
<v Speaker 2>asked the GM it's it was his movie, and then

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:46.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say back, yeah, he's not available, Todd.

0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:50.120
<v Speaker 4>That's very interesting, exactly, like.

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 2>He won't he won't talk yet. You know he's hiding.

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:55.719
<v Speaker 4>Have you seen him? Yeah? No, I'm looking at one

0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 4>of the quotes he said, how confident he is in

0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:01.399
<v Speaker 4>his own ability to lead here. Yeah, I'll read a verbatim.

0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:03.639
<v Speaker 4>I've had a Michael I said, I have had a

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:05.399
<v Speaker 4>lot of success. I believe in my career, and I

0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 4>think that we did a really strong job in building

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 4>up this franchise. This is deeply disappointed me, and I'm

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:14.200
<v Speaker 4>doing everything the power to correct and improve it. How

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:16.159
<v Speaker 4>long has he been there for? Do we know?

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:20.159
<v Speaker 2>Off top pen, I think it was twenty nineteen or

0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:22.120
<v Speaker 2>twenty what is it? Six years?

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:23.920
<v Speaker 4>So he's only been there for six years. I mean,

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:26.840
<v Speaker 4>I've had a lot of success, right, that's the first

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 4>words he said.

0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 2>He took over a tanking team, so you get all

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:32.240
<v Speaker 2>the draft picks, all the good stuff.

0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:35.600
<v Speaker 4>Right. Have they won a championship, they won a playoff game,

0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:36.640
<v Speaker 4>they won a playoff game.

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 2>He had a lot of success with the Astros.

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, oh okay, but he's having that success here.

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 4>I mean, so what are we doing? They shouldn't go ahead?

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 4>Go ahead? Crazy?

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 3>No? No, can I give like a different view of this?

0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 3>And I know we we rip on Michael laias for

0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:57.640
<v Speaker 3>the moves that he's made, the way he spent the

0:28:57.680 --> 0:29:00.680
<v Speaker 3>money that ownership does it. I feel like some of

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 3>the things that have gone down in the last few days,

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 3>whether they're out of character for him or not. Does

0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 3>it feel like he was pressured to get rid of

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 3>Brandon Hyde. Do we feel like he didn't want to

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:18.440
<v Speaker 3>get rid of Brandon Hyde and yet he had to.

0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 3>Ownership was pushing it because I think sometimes public sentiment

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 3>is different than actual, like good decisions. And I'm not

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 3>saying he's made all the right decisions, but he's on

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:36.200
<v Speaker 3>He's kind of on the defense saying I've done a

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 3>lot of really good things, saying, hey, you know what,

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 3>why why am I going to come out and say

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 3>anything in these first few days here when I haven't

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm not the one that made this decision. Maybe Ownership

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 3>will step up and say something. I don't know, Maybe

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm totally off base. Maybe it's something that he sees

0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 3>himself going out the door and he's like, you know what,

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 3>maybe I don't need to put my name on the

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 3>fact that we shouldn't have fired the manager that every player.

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Likes and was a good soldier, right. I mean, Jackson

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:14.080
<v Speaker 2>Holliday actually has had pretty good numbers for the year

0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 2>at the plate so far, at least if you're going

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 2>off weighted stats to go psplus. I mean, he's sat

0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 2>a lot. There's a lot of platoon action that goes

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 2>on with the team. Where does that usually come from

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 2>the breast the breass right, And you have to work

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:34.560
<v Speaker 2>with them and be like, Okay, I'm going to do that.

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 2>He's a good soldier and well like by the players.

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think everybody that has a pulse on

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 2>the team knows that this had almost nothing to do

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:47.320
<v Speaker 2>with Brandon Hyde. Brandon Hyde was not going to fix

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 2>the starting staff. He wasn't going to fix most things

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:52.520
<v Speaker 2>with what was going on on the field, Crats. But

0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 2>do we now live in a world where you cannot

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 2>do nothing when your season's done and you're in the

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 2>thick of your winning window. You did the tanking for

0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 2>a long time. You had two pretty good seasons in

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 2>the last two years. Neither of them came up with

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 2>a playoff appearance, though, and now you're one of the

0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 2>worst teams in baseball and you're going to be selling

0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 2>at the deadline, right, They're not going to be the

0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:18.200
<v Speaker 2>ultimate comeback story. So with all that being said, you

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 2>have to do something, and what else can you do?

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying public pressure and ownership pressure nowadays is they

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 2>weren't going to ride this whole season out doing nothing.

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:28.760
<v Speaker 2>I agree with what you say. I think he probably

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:30.480
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to let him go. If it was me,

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't want to let him go either. But if

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm the GM, I would potentially look at firing myself

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 2>because I'm the one that messed up.

0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:40.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like people aren't going to do that, but in

0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 3>my opinion, ownership's not gonna Yeah, I mean ownership that

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 3>would that would I think ownership would say, look, we

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:52.160
<v Speaker 3>gave you seventy three seventy five million dollars at it

0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:56.720
<v Speaker 3>on Kyle Gibson, so seventy five million dollars to spend

0:31:56.720 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 3>this offseason. You didn't spend it very well. You have

0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 3>to go and fire the manager because whether you think

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 3>he is the one, I'd like to fire you, but

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:11.960
<v Speaker 3>we can't because that would set a precedent that I

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:14.800
<v Speaker 3>don't know the teams have ever seen, let alone an

0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 3>ownership group that is I mean, they have brand new

0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 3>carbon in their offices like they just moved in. They're

0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:25.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, they're super new on the scene here, and

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 3>they expected a lot more with what they invested into

0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 3>this team this year.

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:35.520
<v Speaker 4>Can I finish it with this? They had all these prospects, man,

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 4>they had prospects, prospects, and we talked about it for

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 4>the last couple of years. He didn't do anything with him.

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 4>He didn't do anything. He didn't trade up to get

0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 4>some big name. You got Corbyn Burns for a little bit, right,

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 4>but you had guys to give out. They had no

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:53.280
<v Speaker 4>space to play on your squad. Why didn't you make

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:55.600
<v Speaker 4>a big trade for a big name or something. I

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 4>said it over and over, get rid of some of

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:03.480
<v Speaker 4>these guys, mans. And that's the big disappointment I have

0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 4>in the squad, because they could have got two or

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 4>three guys that could be sitting pretty for the Oriols

0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 4>right now and they wouldn't be in this scenario.

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 2>And if you wait too long, those prospects lose value, right,

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 2>become suspects. Yeah, And what happened was Connor Norby and

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Kyle Sowers got traded for at least what appears at

0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 2>the moment to be really a broken arm in Trevor Rodgers.

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:27.240
<v Speaker 2>So you gave away two guys that actually should have

0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 2>gotten more of an opportunity and didn't, and their trade

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:34.000
<v Speaker 2>value went down based on their age and them being

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:37.640
<v Speaker 2>perceived as quade players even though now they're not. They

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 2>just needed a lane checking to see any feedback here

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 2>from fans, Brandon said, Oriels miss Santander. He was their

0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 2>veteran presence. Agreed, but I still think they'd be in

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:57.480
<v Speaker 2>a bad spot. Could the offense be in a better place, Yes, obviously,

0:33:57.600 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going off this year's version of Santander. Although

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<v Speaker 2>nobody can hit homers in Toronto, I think Dalton bar Show. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, this is perfect time for this because

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, hey, I'm not going to make this

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<v Speaker 2>a topic, but I would love to bring this up

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<v Speaker 2>to my friends. From Matt Snyder, who writes for CBS,

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<v Speaker 2>this was like a day or two ago, he said,

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<v Speaker 2>Dalton bar Show leads the Toronto Blue Jays with six

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<v Speaker 2>home runs. I don't know if anything changed in the

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<v Speaker 2>last couple of days, but right now he is the

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<v Speaker 2>leader in homers. He is on pace for twenty one

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<v Speaker 2>home runs in twenty twenty one. The Toronto Blue Jays

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<v Speaker 2>had seven players with at least twenty homers this year,

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<v Speaker 2>they're on pace for just one of those players. The

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<v Speaker 2>only full season where a Blue Jays franchise had no

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<v Speaker 2>one reached twenty homers was their first season nineteen seventy seven.

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<v Speaker 2>The leader was ron Fairly with nineteen.

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<v Speaker 3>So Dalton Barshot. The start of the season a month

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<v Speaker 3>late too, Andre Semendez was leading the team with three

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<v Speaker 3>and he had three in the first two four days.

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<v Speaker 4>What is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Can we do some ballpark blaming though? No, we're just

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<v Speaker 2>saying everything fell Apart from a power perspective, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>great ballpark.

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<v Speaker 3>To hit in, man, I mean are they? I mean

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<v Speaker 3>is a Do they have fans that are blowing the

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<v Speaker 3>ball back in?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Come on? No, Like, there's there's some ballparks that are tough.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, Kaufman, Kaufman, You've had You've had forty

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<v Speaker 3>home run home run guys, home run seasons for out

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<v Speaker 3>of guys at Kaufman. Like, that's a tough stadium, Toronto, ain' Kaufman.

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<v Speaker 3>Unless a lot has changed since Todd quit.

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<v Speaker 4>It hasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>So is that a process thing? Like how to guys

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<v Speaker 2>with pop just all lose it. And then you're bringing

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<v Speaker 2>in someone from the outside. You're like, where's flat, he's pop,

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<v Speaker 2>where's both pop? Then here comes sant Andre and it's

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<v Speaker 2>forty four homers last year pop.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it a mentality? Is it a swinging path? I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know what they're doing and how they're hitting. Coaches

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<v Speaker 4>are getting them ready for I don't know. It's very confusing, man.

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<v Speaker 4>These guys can hit the ball and we just haven't

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<v Speaker 4>seen it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy.