1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Their leadoff men are on basing about two seventy thus 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: far this year, and Ronald is a market improvement to that, 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: and I think that makes Olsen better, Riley better. 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 2: Grand McCauley covers the Braves for ninety two nine in 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 2: the game host of From the Diamond, among many other 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 2: gigs all over the Brave scene. Back with us, Grant, 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: we love having you on, Thanks for the time, give 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: us the goods. First on Spencer Strider. So he's back 9 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: and had very I would say candid words about how 10 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: he was pissed about his first start pack, then his 11 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 2: second start of the year and second start since the 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: long surgery. So where are we at with him? 13 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? 14 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: I think this is going to be a matter of, 15 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: in some respects knocking the rust off. And it's kind 16 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: of a shame that he works so hard for a 17 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: calendar year to get himself back, only to land on 18 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: the injured list with a separate malady that caused him 19 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: to sit around. And I say that loosely because obviously 20 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,319 Speaker 1: he was still working over that time. So I think 21 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: he's going to kind of have to get back to 22 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: where he was before the hamstring and then find his 23 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: way to make his incremental improvements. But there is no 24 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: two ways about the fact that this is one of 25 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: the most competitive pitchers players I think maybe in any 26 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: sport for that matter. And he's very candid and he's 27 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: very direct about his expectations for himself and what he 28 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: wants to provide to the Atlanta Braves. So I think 29 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: you heard some of that or read some of that 30 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: after last night's start. It's kind of a journey throughout 31 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: the course of coming back from an injury like this 32 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: to get back to where he wants to get to. 33 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: But if hard work and those and talent we combine 34 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: the way that they have for Spencer Strider in the past, 35 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: I would think that he's going to find his way there. 36 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 3: It just might take a little while. 37 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I agree totally with you. This guy is 38 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 4: an absolute stud. He's been doing it for a couple 39 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 4: of years now. Now. My question along those lines are, 40 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 4: how did how does his teammates perceive him? I mean, 41 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 4: he talks this you know, big thing about you know, 42 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 4: not doing well, which I think is courageous. I think 43 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 4: is honesty. I love honesty, Like, how do how do 44 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 4: his team mates take them? And they got to be 45 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 4: happy as a clam right now having him back. 46 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 3: No doubt about it. 47 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: And I actually heard Mett Olson say after a game 48 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: on the recent homestand or the recent road trip rather 49 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: that like, he's one of the leaders of this club. 50 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: And I think that it's easy to see and easy 51 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: to understand why because of who he is and how 52 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: he approaches the game on and off the field. He 53 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: has a tremendous respect, I think, for his opportunity and 54 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: his job each and every time he takes the ball, 55 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: and that's one of the things that I think makes 56 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: him so authentic. And I think we all like authenticity, 57 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: and Spencer Strider is one of those people that doesn't 58 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: come around too incredibly often, so it's tremendous to have 59 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: him back in there. But obviously he knows he wants 60 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: to get himself back to that level physically where he's 61 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,399 Speaker 1: able to impact the game the way that he's used 62 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: to doing prior to this most recent elbow surgery. 63 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 4: I think this next streak they have going along here 64 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 4: they got after Washington, here, they got San Diego, Philly 65 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 4: and Boston. I feel like this is gonna, in my opinion, 66 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 4: prove to be where they're at right now. During the season, 67 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 4: not saying if they do bad, they're not going to 68 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 4: climb back, but this is a big series coming up. 69 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 4: Where do you see this Brave's team. They're five hundred 70 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 4: right now, where do you see this going? 71 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? 72 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: And how hard was it to get to five hundred 73 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: when you start to season zero and seven. So I 74 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: think they probably felt behind or behind the eight ball 75 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: a little bit early on, but we're able to keep 76 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: the confidence that it is a long season, it's a marathon. 77 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: And once they were able to get back to some 78 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: version of full strength, which obviously we can talk about 79 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: how Ron Lacuna Junior could factor into that they were 80 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: going to play the kind of baseball they expect to. 81 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: And since starting out five and thirteen, they pretty much 82 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: have played at about a six hundred clip. That will 83 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: punch your ticket to the postseason, even if you've had 84 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: a less than stellar start, and that ultimately is their 85 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: big goal. But you're going to have to test yourself 86 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: against the kinds of teams that you're going to see there. 87 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: They know all about the Padres and the Phillies and 88 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: clubs like that, especially the last three years in October, 89 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: So even if nobody's looking at it and saying it 90 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: is to your point, the end all be all. You'd 91 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: like to measure yourself up against the be and feel 92 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: like you're on the right path. And I think the 93 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: Braves have been. But this will be the latest test 94 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: to kind of see where this version of the Braves 95 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: is at this point in the season. 96 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: Obviously, they you know, they don't want to be five hundred, 97 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 3: but they're happy that they're five hundred right now based 98 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 3: on how it started. But back to Strider, how long 99 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 3: do you think the ORG can continue to lean on 100 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 3: him or how long do you think the ORG feels 101 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 3: like they're fine with some diminished velocity. You saw him 102 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 3: get hurt yesterday by breaking balls that you're like, eh, 103 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: normally those breaking balls are not the ones he's throwing 104 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 3: in those locations. And then he got hit hurt by 105 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 3: ninety five by Dylan Cruz. He looked more mortal. So 106 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 3: how long can the ORG say, hey, you know what, 107 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 3: we know, we're not going to get one hundred percent 108 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 3: Strider for the first however many starts. But how long 109 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 3: is that for the Braves? Yeah, it's a good question. 110 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: I think as long as he's competitive in keeping them 111 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: in game, he will continue to get the opportunity to 112 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: make those improvements and to get back to where he is. 113 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: But obviously, to the point of everything that everybody's doing 114 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: all year long, you want to win. And that's not 115 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: lost on Spencer's strider either, which is why I think 116 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: those comments last night, particularly referencing, Look, they had to 117 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: send Bryce Elder out for me to get this chance, 118 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: and I'm not pitching well. And if I don't pitch well, 119 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: I don't deserve to be out there. So with that, 120 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,559 Speaker 1: it's the backdrop of all of this. If those Candi 121 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: comments are to be taking at face value, which I 122 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: have no reason to believe they're not, he understands what's 123 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: at stake. If he's not able to make these adjustments, 124 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: now are the days of ninety seven ninety eight continually 125 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: in the zone and you know this fastball slider behind him. 126 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm prepared to say that, because 127 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: I think that Spencer wanted to make some improvements to 128 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: his arsenal that allowed him to be able to be 129 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: a true pitcher and to have that finesse and to 130 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: be able to have options to keep hitters off of 131 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: certain pitches and just evolve, I guess, but at some 132 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: point I think you got to go with what works. 133 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: And he said this before to him last spring when 134 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: the curveball was the big conversation. Look, I'm a fastball, 135 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: slider pitcher. I know that, but I do like to 136 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: have other options, and I think he's trying to work 137 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: on some of those. 138 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 3: But back to the. 139 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: Main point, You've got to be able to compete with 140 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: your best stuff, and I think that Spencer Strider is 141 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: not quite there in terms of his absolute best and 142 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: most consistent fastball for sure. 143 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 3: Okay, first I need to ask a question to set 144 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 3: up my next question. It's just yes or no. Rono 145 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 3: Viccunya will not be an MVP caliber player right when 146 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 3: he gets back. I'm gonna say no, Okay, that's fine, 147 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 3: and that's fine. I'm not gonna hold you to it. 148 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 3: If he does awesome, great, not expecting seventy bags, a 149 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 3: million homers, all that stuff. Yet with Olsen just hitting 150 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 3: with not Olsen just hitting his tenth home run, I 151 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 3: think last night, is he the biggest key or is 152 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 3: Austin Riley the biggest key in this lineup moving forward 153 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 3: the rest of the season. 154 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: I think moving forward, the rest of this. If we're 155 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: putting Acuna over off into his own special category, that 156 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: Matt Olson is probably the most important X factor Outside 157 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: of that, I think we've seen what we need to 158 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: see from Austin Riley, But I would probably put those 159 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: guys in a dead heat, a one A one B 160 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: kind of scenario if you're talking about the importance of 161 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: stacking this lineup to do the kind of damage the 162 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: Braves are accustomed to. But keep in mind what Matt 163 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: Olsen was a couple of years ago, a fifty plus 164 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: homer hitter who can drive in one hundred and forty runs. 165 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: If that's the ceiling, and maybe it's the outlier, it's 166 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: still not crazy to think that he can do seventy 167 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: five percent of that, which would make him by my 168 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: simple math, you're a forty homer hitter who couldkno get 169 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: one hundred ten or one hundred and twenty runs, and 170 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: that is most definitely what the Braves need. But to 171 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: drive in those kind of runs, how about having Acunya 172 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: back at the top of the order, even if he's 173 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: not the MVP. For his career per one sixty two, 174 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: Ronald has averaged one hundred and thirty runs score. That's 175 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: what they need at the top of the order because 176 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: their leadoff men are on basing about two seventy thus 177 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: far this year, and Ronald is a market improvement to that. 178 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: And I think that makes Olsen better, Riley better, Ozuna better, 179 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: and on down the list. 180 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: Krats. 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That's money, that's cash. 199 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 3: At Has Nick Allen filled in admirably or just filled 200 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 3: in for this Braves team? 201 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: I think he's filled in admirably. Defensively speaking, he has 202 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: been above and beyond I think anybody's realistic expectations, even 203 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: if you kind of knew maybe he was a glove 204 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: first infielder, the plays that he makes, the setup that 205 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: he has, the instincts that he has, I mean, it's 206 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: been very, very impressive. And he's not going to hit 207 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: a ton. I think we've kind of seen, you know, 208 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: what we saw coming in. Maybe that's there's not much there, 209 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: though his minor league numbers were encouraging that maybe. 210 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 3: There was a little something. 211 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: But I think if the rest of this lineup is hitting, 212 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: you're pretty happy with what you're getting defensively. But to 213 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: go back to the conversation of the winter and really, 214 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: since Dansby Swanson left, are the Braves settled at shortstop? 215 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 3: I'm not convinced of that. 216 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 4: Still a lot of question marks, and we're forty eight 217 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 4: games in, we're almost what we're getting there. It seems 218 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 4: like the year is flying right by my question to 219 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 4: you is, I know it's a little far away, but 220 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 4: can you see this team during the trade deadline do 221 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 4: something here, especially if they are, you know, a few 222 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 4: games out, or is this a team right now? It's like, 223 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 4: we'll see where we go. Hopefully we get everybody back 224 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 4: after injury. 225 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: I feel like they're set up to do something at 226 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: the trade deadline, and there's almost more pressure to do 227 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: so because they weren't able to accomplish their winter goals. 228 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: I mean, in no version of the script would I say, well, 229 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: the Braves looked at their pitching staff and thought they 230 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: didn't need anything. I think they would have liked to 231 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: have gotten another high leverage reliever, which was only exacerbated 232 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: when Joey Menez could be out for the year. And 233 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: I think they would have liked to have added somebody 234 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: to fortify the rotation and really give them that standout group. 235 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: So I think that those are still areas that they're 236 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: going to go out and shop for now, getting Strider 237 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: back and hopefully finding his form again, which is a 238 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: big part of his return, is an impact arm. It's 239 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: a question about that Acunya back. I mean, what club 240 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't like to be looking at players like that and 241 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: welcoming those guys back in for the run through the 242 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: dog days this summer and beyond the trade deadline and 243 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: all the things that are ahead. So I think that 244 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: they are poised to do something at the trade deadline, 245 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: and I've heard Alex Anthopolos talk about it. The math 246 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: for them, how they look at the luxury tax and 247 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: when you get to the trade deadline, you're really only 248 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: talking about having to pay for a third of that 249 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: player's salary for the year. So I think that could 250 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: make them a very intriguing team out there lurking for 251 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: some big names and some big ads when the trade 252 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: deadline does get here, and to be frank, they might 253 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: need them. 254 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 3: Does Craig Kimberl get more or less than five saves 255 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: on this season for the Atlanta Braves. 256 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to say less because I do think Ryce 257 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: Eleglacias is capable of figuring it out, so it's kind 258 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: of out of Craig Kimberl's hands. He's been trending better 259 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: in Triple A Guinette. I think the velocity is finally 260 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: starting to tick up. He's starting to make back to 261 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: back appearances. I think he could be a factor. I mean, 262 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: you look at that resume, how could you overlook him 263 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: or underestimate him? But there were some serious questions at 264 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: the end of last year about his ability to be 265 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: that guy in the ninth inning for the final three outs, 266 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: which is a crazy thing to say about someone who's 267 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: fifth all time and saves. But I still think it's 268 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 1: a Glacius's job to lose. I don't think we've seen 269 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: the best version of ryceell Iglesias, and I think that 270 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: those adjustments can and will be made, and the Braves 271 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: very much need him to because they don't need one 272 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: more question on top of everything else, which is who's 273 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: going to get the last three outs for us? 274 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 2: Grant, tell me where we're at with Rice l. I 275 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 2: mean he's still pretty consistently giving up runs. I mean 276 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 2: I'm not seeing even in the past, what five six 277 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 2: appearances now a lot of clean outings. The era is 278 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 2: close to six. What are you seeing, right, I don't 279 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: see every single appearance. What are you seeing? And why 280 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: do you think that it can be fixed? 281 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: His home run rate, I believe should normalize. I mean, 282 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: he's not going to give up eighteen or twenty home 283 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: runs this year. And the Braves certainly aren't going to 284 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: allow that to happen in the ninth inning most certainly, 285 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: so they're going to have to sort that out. And 286 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: that's the adjustment I think he has to make. Because 287 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: last year he allowed four homers and roughly seventy innings. 288 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: He's already allowed to believe half a dozen in twenty 289 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: or thereabouts innings this year, so that rate is off 290 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: the charts. But he's looked better. I feel like over 291 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: the past week or two. He was used infrequently early on. 292 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if that might have kind of gotten 293 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: him a little bit out of the norm coming out 294 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: of spring training because he didn't have save opportunities there 295 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: for about two weeks, so that could be part of it. 296 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: But the stuff's still there. I think he's just made 297 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: some mistakes. He's hung some pitches, and he hasn't been 298 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: able to get away with those mistakes. But I haven't 299 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 1: noticed anything that makes me feel like Ryce I Iglesias 300 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: looks like a shell of himself, or that he's just 301 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: doesn't have it. I think he's just got to make 302 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: those adjustments. The Braves believe he can and he will. 303 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: But as we all know, father time is undefeated and 304 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: you know, closers, relievers. I mean, it's volatile, like you 305 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: just don't have guys that you know, never run into 306 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: a bad patch or a bad you know time in 307 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: their career where they maybe get taken out of that 308 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: leverage position. That being said, that would be the most 309 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: unideal thing to happen at think in the bras bulpin 310 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 1: as it's currently constructed. 311 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: And the confidence flow of that position, right, I mean, 312 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: yesterday we spoke to Pap about it. It's like, even 313 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 2: if you're unlucky, but it happens a few times in 314 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 2: a row, things can spiral. Yeah, yeah, so we'll see 315 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 2: what happens. But Grant always great insight. Great to have 316 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: you on everyone watching here. If you don't already get 317 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 2: Granted file, you can see everything that he's doing. But 318 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: on Twitter it's just his name first and last, Grant McCauley. 319 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: Thank you, Grant, good to see you. Thanks guys, Let's 320 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: get some more. That's what he said. Let's go to 321 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: Luis Robert through an interpreter. He said, right now, as 322 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: my season is going, I don't think anybody is going 323 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: to take a chance on me. I just focus on 324 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: trying to get better. I can't think of anything else. 325 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: I mean, he's the sub two hundred batting average, sub 326 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 2: three hundre on base, just a hair over three hundred 327 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: on his slugging percentage. You're kind of like, damn, what happened? 328 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 2: This was a really fun player to watch. He's had 329 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 2: trouble staying on the field, but it's like space jam. Yeah, 330 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 2: someone took his powers. 331 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I'm not a big fan of the quote. 332 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 4: I feel like he's kind of throwing in the towel here. 333 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 4: How about how about saying, hey, listen, I know I'm struggling, 334 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 4: but I'm one bad away from getting my mind right 335 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 4: and getting after it. I want to He's a confident guy. 336 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 4: I believe he's gonna get back on track. I like 337 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 4: the way he plays. I mean, listen, a couple of 338 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 4: years ago, I have forty home runs, one or two 339 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 4: home runs. He had thirty eight or thirty nine, and 340 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 4: he's he's fine. He's just going through it right now. 341 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 4: You know that kind of quote there that would steer 342 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 4: me away from wanting a guy the confidence. I mean, listen, 343 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 4: you're in the big leagues for a reason. You're going 344 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 4: to struggle. That's part of it. It's how you get 345 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 4: out of it. All of the sun. These next three weeks, 346 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 4: he can go off on a terry, but about in 347 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 4: two fifteen, no time. That's that's the biggest problem. The 348 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 4: psyche up here. You gotta be mentally strong in baseball 349 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 4: and here a quote like that. It's kind of sad 350 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 4: at the same time because we know and we've seen 351 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 4: him do really good. I just think he's mentally needs 352 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 4: to get right and understand how good he really is. 353 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 3: Chris gets he's like, no, stop stop talking, stop talking. 354 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 3: This has been the mo around him, and we had 355 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 3: never really heard much from him. The m around him 356 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 3: was like, don't know, Like is he fully engaged every 357 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 3: game because he still has his superpowers. He clearly wants 358 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 3: to get a stolen base he's got. I think he's 359 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 3: leading the league right now. I think he's got seventeen 360 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 3: or eighteen stone bases. Like he's running when he's on 361 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 3: his on base percentage, while it is lower than his 362 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 3: career norm, his walk rate has gone up. Maybe that's 363 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 3: because nobody's around him. To me, if he he's a 364 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 3: change of scenery guy, the GM that trades for him, 365 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 3: is taking a risk that wherever he fits into, he's 366 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 3: going to be like, you know what I want. I 367 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 3: want to win and I want to be the best 368 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 3: player that I can be, because when he is that guy, 369 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 3: I don't believe in outliers. I don't believe, and I 370 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 3: believe when you have a season, an elite season like 371 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 3: he had, you're only playing under that. That is not 372 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 3: like he'll never reach that again. I disagree. I think 373 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 3: he's playing below those expectations. And really, it's hard to 374 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 3: come to the park every day if you're not motivated 375 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 3: for something. He's got a contract, it's going to be 376 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 3: a little bit till he needs another contract. But your 377 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 3: team is losing one hundred games back to back seasons. 378 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 3: Last year they weren't even competitive at all. So it's hard. 379 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 3: It's hard to get going for some guys because he's 380 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 3: not really he's not playing for his life. And if 381 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 3: he keeps malasing through the season, he's not gonna have 382 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 3: any trade value. 383 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 2: He's right, he's not gonna cost as much right now. 384 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 2: If the White Sox do want to move him. It 385 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 2: gets tricky for the Socks though, because then you're like, okay, 386 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 2: we have basically no payroll, so that's not the problem. 387 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 2: We might as well let him try to find it 388 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 2: again and increase his value. There's still years left on 389 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 2: the deal. It's not like he's a free agent after 390 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 2: this season either, So it does get tricky when it 391 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 2: comes to the asking price. 392 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 4: That's very tricky, and it's not a good time for 393 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 4: the White Sox right now at all. I mean to 394 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 4: get anybody really in return. 395 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Alloy was a very promising bat and by the 396 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: end of trade deadline time last year, the Orioles picked 397 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 2: him up. Are like the Orioles and I don't remember 398 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 2: it being a big return. And you're like, or he might. 399 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 2: Did he get cut or did he get traded? I 400 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 2: don't even know whatever it was. My point is, CRATSN 401 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 2: that was a really good looking group for a very 402 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 2: short period of time, and these guys aren't old in 403 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 2: baseball terms. 404 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 5: Scott, you need to check out this Roeback hoodie I have. 405 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 5: It's eighty five plus degrees here in Florida. Look lightweight, 406 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 5: feels great, cool colors perfect for those hot Florida days. 407 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 2: I agree, aj color looks fire and you can get 408 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: your own sweatshirt polo hoodie. 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Not old not you know, 419 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 3: they didn't. The only thing they lost was Jose Abrahu, 420 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 3: that kind of leader in the clubhouse, the guy that 421 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 3: kind of kept them accountable, and then their production went down. Orioles, 422 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 3: are they gonna see the same thing from Gunner and 423 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 3: Adlee or are they going to be able to turn 424 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 3: it around? 425 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: Joan, Luis, Robert and Looyjmenez are not thirty years old yet, 426 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 2: none of them that's in Yawn's twenty nine. Eloye is 427 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 2: twenty eight, Robert is twenty seven. 428 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 3: How many managers did they have through their prime of 429 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 3: their time in Chicago. Shame on the Chicago organization. That's 430 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 3: all I have to say about that. Shame on them 431 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 3: for not putting people in their lives to get the 432 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 3: most out of them. I Ultimately it's up to them. Ultimately, 433 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 3: it's up to each of those guys. But they went 434 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 3: through I'm not sure who the manager was before Tony LaRussa. 435 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 2: I can do this game with you. 436 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 4: Go ahead, I can. 437 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 2: I can get the year, the year to year, just 438 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 2: so we can try and track how many managers they had. 439 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 3: Right, I'm forgetting who was there there before Tony. 440 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 4: I was. I was there with Rick. 441 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 2: So well, let's start with what's the first season. So 442 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 2: Mancata's first year with the White Sox was twenty seventeen. 443 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 3: Clearly, clearly because Todd forgot that they were teammates. So 444 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 3: I remember that. 445 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 2: Yep, so we know what they so ready for this toia? Right, 446 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: Rick Rentoia was your manager, right in twenty seventeen, Griffall what. 447 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 4: Was his name? 448 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 2: Fall was later? Yeah, then you had Tony Larusa, right, 449 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 2: it took over for Rick yep, yep, Miguel Cairo after Tony. 450 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 2: I was brief but Cairo, So that's three Besa, Pedro 451 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 2: Grifol that's four, Grady Sizemore that's five, And for the 452 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 2: Robert who's still there, it's Will Venable. I'm counting six 453 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 2: managers since twenty seventeen. 454 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 3: If you want somebody to be engaged, if you want 455 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 3: somebody to be engaged, you also have to be engaged 456 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 3: with them. You also have to build up that rapport, 457 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 3: that relationship. And sometimes we fail as leaders, as managers, 458 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 3: as coaches at being engaged with our players. But for 459 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: three guys in one organization to have as big a 460 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 3: lapses as they have, people will be like, oh, at 461 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 3: least Robert lou Bob he was. He was legit, and 462 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 3: you're right, he was legit. But to me, I don't 463 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: think that is his max. I think he can do 464 00:22:54,520 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 3: more because of the skill set that he has. 465 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to see what it looks like somewhere else. 466 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 2: Moncott is actually starting to heat up a little bit. 467 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: Did you see his homer yesterday? Oh my gosh, he pulled. 468 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 3: The well and he hit well on Triple A Stadium. 469 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, do you know what he's up to? Two 470 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 2: twenty nine batting? But he's he's always been more of 471 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 2: a play discipline on base guy. Right, he's I don't 472 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 2: think he's been a big batting average monster two twenty nine. 473 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 2: It's been okay, mid mid two hundreds, I think average career. Yeah, 474 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: two fifty three, three forty nine on base, that'll play 475 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 2: forty six slug for an eight thirty five ops, one 476 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 2: thirty four ops plus that'll play. 477 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 478 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 3: That I've never seen. I've seen different eyeblacks. I've seen 479 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 3: the cross, I've seen the lines. I think somebody Cobby's 480 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 3: using it in LA or in the rays. He's in 481 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 3: a double line. He did dots. He went dot dot 482 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 3: dot dot dot. It was like he had Morse code 483 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 3: on his EyeBlack. 484 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 4: Okay, I like that. 485 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 3: That's fun flash. 486 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 2: I know, yeah, why regular EyeBlack. 487 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 3: That's tired, really tired. But there's that. 488 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: Yeah under the lights. But hey, good for the Angels, 489 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 2: I mean, nice pickup. I mean he might be trade 490 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: bait if things don't work out for them, but clearly 491 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 2: this is a guy who moves on from another from 492 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 2: that org and then. 493 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 4: He's been playing for a while now too. 494 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 2: That should be a good selling point for the socks, Like, hey, 495 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: did you see how we screwed up you on Mancata 496 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: and what he's doing. 497 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 4: Now, this could. 498 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 2: Be yours, Luise, Robert could be yours. 499 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what he said. 500 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 2: That's what he said. 501 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 3: That's what he said. 502 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 2: That's what he said. We were waiting for. 503 00:24:58,760 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 4: That's what he said. 504 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 2: On and the Oriols front office leader for not one, 505 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 2: not two, but three days after he fires manager Brandon Hyde, 506 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 2: who some thought would be the guy to lead the 507 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 2: Orioles to a World Series title or at least be 508 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 2: a big part of this franchise for a long time. 509 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 2: Got players and tears in the clubhouse after that went down. 510 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 2: I'm sure many of them feel responsible, but also that 511 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 2: Hide should be the manager of this team, and he 512 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 2: probably will be a successful manager with someone else. Let's 513 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 2: get some bizz here. So the question was asked to 514 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 2: Elias on why he waited three days to speak publicly 515 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 2: about Hyde's dismissal. The quote, it's a pretty hectic few days. 516 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: Got Tony as in Mansolino, the interms manager in place, 517 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 2: and traveled up here with the team and just needed 518 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 2: a couple of days. Jacob Calvin Meyer's been on the 519 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 2: show covers the oriols on a daily basis, said Michael 520 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 2: Lias's players were not given that same privilege of a 521 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 2: few days. Half of the clubhouse spoke on Saturday, right, 522 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 2: and Elias didn't speak until Tuesday. The first player that 523 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 2: had to speak was a twenty one year old, as 524 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,479 Speaker 2: in Jackson Holliday. Others had to hold back tears. These 525 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 2: are the same players who have MIC's in their face 526 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 2: minutes after blowing a safe or striking out to end 527 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 2: a game. Really well worded tweet in my mind to 528 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 2: say you've done this after a game. You're there, right, 529 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: You always showed up, You're accountable. Sure, we don't ask 530 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: for the gms to talk all the time, but when 531 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 2: they do something like this, they need to be available 532 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 2: pretty quickly to explain it so that it doesn't fall 533 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 2: on you. Matchine for three days, you've got to be 534 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 2: in the clubhouse getting asked about why Hide's gone and 535 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 2: how things are different and whatever. Not to mention they 536 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 2: lost all three games. Yeah, I mean, would you be 537 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 2: pissed if you're a player? Yeah, I a little disappointed. 538 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 4: I mean just the disappointment would be that he needed 539 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 4: to take a couple of days hearing that you know, 540 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 4: if he didn't say anything. Listen, their business man. At 541 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 4: the end of the day, they do whatever the heck 542 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 4: they want. If I'm worried about what he's going to say, 543 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 4: or what he's not going to say, or where the 544 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 4: heck he is, then I'm not focused on the task 545 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 4: at hand. So yeah, maybe you're like, oh, where the 546 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 4: heck did he go? But for him to say I 547 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 4: need a couple of days off that that would be like, 548 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 4: you know, okay, wow, okay, what do you want to say? 549 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 2: Ten minutes is all it takes, right, everybody, everybody can 550 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 2: put ten minutes together, and this like should be one 551 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 2: of your top responsibilities, like you make the movie everything. 552 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 4: You should be speaking. It's the time. 553 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,959 Speaker 2: Well, because obviously for you, you're going to be like, hey, whatever, 554 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: I mean, that's his thing. He's going to talk when 555 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 2: he talks. My only thing is like you played in 556 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 2: New York, they're going to be MIC's in your face 557 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: every day and you're I know what you'd say, I mean, asked, 558 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,479 Speaker 2: asked the GM it's it was his movie, and then 559 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 2: I'm going to say back, yeah, he's not available, Todd. 560 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 4: That's very interesting, exactly, like. 561 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 2: He won't he won't talk yet. You know he's hiding. 562 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,719 Speaker 4: Have you seen him? Yeah? No, I'm looking at one 563 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 4: of the quotes he said, how confident he is in 564 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 4: his own ability to lead here. Yeah, I'll read a verbatim. 565 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 4: I've had a Michael I said, I have had a 566 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 4: lot of success. I believe in my career, and I 567 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 4: think that we did a really strong job in building 568 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 4: up this franchise. This is deeply disappointed me, and I'm 569 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 4: doing everything the power to correct and improve it. How 570 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 4: long has he been there for? Do we know? 571 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 2: Off top pen, I think it was twenty nineteen or 572 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 2: twenty what is it? Six years? 573 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 4: So he's only been there for six years. I mean, 574 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 4: I've had a lot of success, right, that's the first 575 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 4: words he said. 576 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 2: He took over a tanking team, so you get all 577 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 2: the draft picks, all the good stuff. 578 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 4: Right. Have they won a championship, they won a playoff game, 579 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 4: they won a playoff game. 580 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 2: He had a lot of success with the Astros. 581 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh okay, but he's having that success here. 582 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 583 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 4: I mean, so what are we doing? They shouldn't go ahead? 584 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 4: Go ahead? Crazy? 585 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 3: No? No, can I give like a different view of this? 586 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 3: And I know we we rip on Michael laias for 587 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 3: the moves that he's made, the way he spent the 588 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 3: money that ownership does it. I feel like some of 589 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 3: the things that have gone down in the last few days, 590 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 3: whether they're out of character for him or not. Does 591 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 3: it feel like he was pressured to get rid of 592 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 3: Brandon Hyde. Do we feel like he didn't want to 593 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 3: get rid of Brandon Hyde and yet he had to. 594 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 3: Ownership was pushing it because I think sometimes public sentiment 595 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 3: is different than actual, like good decisions. And I'm not 596 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 3: saying he's made all the right decisions, but he's on 597 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 3: He's kind of on the defense saying I've done a 598 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 3: lot of really good things, saying, hey, you know what, 599 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 3: why why am I going to come out and say 600 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 3: anything in these first few days here when I haven't 601 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 3: I'm not the one that made this decision. Maybe Ownership 602 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 3: will step up and say something. I don't know, Maybe 603 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 3: I'm totally off base. Maybe it's something that he sees 604 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 3: himself going out the door and he's like, you know what, 605 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 3: maybe I don't need to put my name on the 606 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 3: fact that we shouldn't have fired the manager that every player. 607 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 2: Likes and was a good soldier, right. I mean, Jackson 608 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 2: Holliday actually has had pretty good numbers for the year 609 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 2: at the plate so far, at least if you're going 610 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 2: off weighted stats to go psplus. I mean, he's sat 611 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 2: a lot. There's a lot of platoon action that goes 612 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 2: on with the team. Where does that usually come from 613 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 2: the breast the breass right, And you have to work 614 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: with them and be like, Okay, I'm going to do that. 615 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 4: Right. 616 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 2: He's a good soldier and well like by the players. 617 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I think everybody that has a pulse on 618 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 2: the team knows that this had almost nothing to do 619 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 2: with Brandon Hyde. Brandon Hyde was not going to fix 620 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 2: the starting staff. He wasn't going to fix most things 621 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 2: with what was going on on the field, Crats. But 622 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 2: do we now live in a world where you cannot 623 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 2: do nothing when your season's done and you're in the 624 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 2: thick of your winning window. You did the tanking for 625 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 2: a long time. You had two pretty good seasons in 626 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 2: the last two years. Neither of them came up with 627 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 2: a playoff appearance, though, and now you're one of the 628 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 2: worst teams in baseball and you're going to be selling 629 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 2: at the deadline, right, They're not going to be the 630 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 2: ultimate comeback story. So with all that being said, you 631 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 2: have to do something, and what else can you do? 632 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 2: I'm saying public pressure and ownership pressure nowadays is they 633 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 2: weren't going to ride this whole season out doing nothing. 634 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 2: I agree with what you say. I think he probably 635 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 2: didn't want to let him go. If it was me, 636 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to let him go either. But if 637 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 2: I'm the GM, I would potentially look at firing myself 638 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 2: because I'm the one that messed up. 639 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, like people aren't going to do that, but in 640 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 3: my opinion, ownership's not gonna Yeah, I mean ownership that 641 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 3: would that would I think ownership would say, look, we 642 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 3: gave you seventy three seventy five million dollars at it 643 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 3: on Kyle Gibson, so seventy five million dollars to spend 644 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 3: this offseason. You didn't spend it very well. You have 645 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 3: to go and fire the manager because whether you think 646 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 3: he is the one, I'd like to fire you, but 647 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 3: we can't because that would set a precedent that I 648 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 3: don't know the teams have ever seen, let alone an 649 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 3: ownership group that is I mean, they have brand new 650 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 3: carbon in their offices like they just moved in. They're 651 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 3: you know, they're super new on the scene here, and 652 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 3: they expected a lot more with what they invested into 653 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 3: this team this year. 654 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 4: Can I finish it with this? They had all these prospects, man, 655 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 4: they had prospects, prospects, and we talked about it for 656 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 4: the last couple of years. He didn't do anything with him. 657 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 4: He didn't do anything. He didn't trade up to get 658 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 4: some big name. You got Corbyn Burns for a little bit, right, 659 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 4: but you had guys to give out. They had no 660 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 4: space to play on your squad. Why didn't you make 661 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 4: a big trade for a big name or something. I 662 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 4: said it over and over, get rid of some of 663 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 4: these guys, mans. And that's the big disappointment I have 664 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 4: in the squad, because they could have got two or 665 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 4: three guys that could be sitting pretty for the Oriols 666 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 4: right now and they wouldn't be in this scenario. 667 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 2: And if you wait too long, those prospects lose value, right, 668 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 2: become suspects. Yeah, And what happened was Connor Norby and 669 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 2: Kyle Sowers got traded for at least what appears at 670 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 2: the moment to be really a broken arm in Trevor Rodgers. 671 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 2: So you gave away two guys that actually should have 672 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 2: gotten more of an opportunity and didn't, and their trade 673 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 2: value went down based on their age and them being 674 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 2: perceived as quade players even though now they're not. They 675 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 2: just needed a lane checking to see any feedback here 676 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 2: from fans, Brandon said, Oriels miss Santander. He was their 677 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 2: veteran presence. Agreed, but I still think they'd be in 678 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 2: a bad spot. Could the offense be in a better place, Yes, obviously, 679 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 2: I'm not going off this year's version of Santander. Although 680 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 2: nobody can hit homers in Toronto, I think Dalton bar Show. Actually, 681 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 2: you know what, this is perfect time for this because 682 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 2: I was like, hey, I'm not going to make this 683 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 2: a topic, but I would love to bring this up 684 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 2: to my friends. From Matt Snyder, who writes for CBS, 685 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 2: this was like a day or two ago, he said, 686 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 2: Dalton bar Show leads the Toronto Blue Jays with six 687 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 2: home runs. I don't know if anything changed in the 688 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 2: last couple of days, but right now he is the 689 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 2: leader in homers. He is on pace for twenty one 690 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 2: home runs in twenty twenty one. The Toronto Blue Jays 691 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 2: had seven players with at least twenty homers this year, 692 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 2: they're on pace for just one of those players. The 693 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 2: only full season where a Blue Jays franchise had no 694 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 2: one reached twenty homers was their first season nineteen seventy seven. 695 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 2: The leader was ron Fairly with nineteen. 696 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 3: So Dalton Barshot. The start of the season a month 697 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 3: late too, Andre Semendez was leading the team with three 698 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 3: and he had three in the first two four days. 699 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 4: What is going on? 700 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 2: Can we do some ballpark blaming though? No, we're just 701 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 2: saying everything fell Apart from a power perspective, it's a 702 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 2: great ballpark. 703 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 3: To hit in, man, I mean are they? I mean 704 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 3: is a Do they have fans that are blowing the 705 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 3: ball back in? 706 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 4: Like? 707 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 3: Come on? No, Like, there's there's some ballparks that are tough. 708 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 3: But you know, Kaufman, Kaufman, You've had You've had forty 709 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 3: home run home run guys, home run seasons for out 710 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 3: of guys at Kaufman. Like, that's a tough stadium, Toronto, ain' Kaufman. 711 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 3: Unless a lot has changed since Todd quit. 712 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 4: It hasn't. 713 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 2: So is that a process thing? Like how to guys 714 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 2: with pop just all lose it. And then you're bringing 715 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 2: in someone from the outside. You're like, where's flat, he's pop, 716 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 2: where's both pop? Then here comes sant Andre and it's 717 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 2: forty four homers last year pop. 718 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 4: Is it a mentality? Is it a swinging path? I 719 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 4: don't know what they're doing and how they're hitting. Coaches 720 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 4: are getting them ready for I don't know. It's very confusing, man. 721 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,439 Speaker 4: These guys can hit the ball and we just haven't 722 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 4: seen it. 723 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 2: It's crazy.