1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: Man, welcome back to Coast to Coast. George Nori with you, 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: Nick Beggot's with us. Nick, Let's get back into the 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: quantum computing. Where are we as a nation competitively in 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: the computer world. 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 3: Well, I, you know, this is probably one of the 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 3: most important areas. I think we're right up there with 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 3: the best of the best. You know, the thing about 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 3: quantum computing again is you know what does that really 10 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 3: mean in terms of computing power? And you can take 11 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 3: the biggest computers on the world. And when I first 12 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 3: looked at this, it's been now almost fifteen eighteen years ago. 13 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 3: At that time, it would take a trillion years of 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 3: a supercomputer to do what a quantum computer can do 15 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 3: in an hour. 16 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: Wow. 17 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 3: And when you start to think about this kind of 18 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 3: elap whoever gets there first, there won't be any encryption, 19 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 3: any code that you can secure your computer with that 20 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 3: amount of computing power is just incomprehensible. 21 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 4: When you hook that into AI and a few other things. 22 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 3: In terms of technology, this changes everything about everything. This 23 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 3: is being pursued vigorously by every industrialized country in the world. 24 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 3: And again, whoever gets there first presents the biggest challenge 25 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 3: to everyone else. And again, I know that it's a 26 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 3: priority for our country, it's priority for every country that 27 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 3: has a technology base. China, Russia, Israel, the US, Great Britain, France, Germany, 28 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: I mean, all of the big powers. Japan, you know, 29 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 3: are looking at this in a vigorous way. Scientus from 30 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: around the world are and they're going to make the 31 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 3: necessary breakthroughs. There's no doubt about it, and some even 32 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 3: suggest that that has already happened. 33 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,279 Speaker 2: Well, we started talking with you, we talked about HARP 34 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: in the last It's now under the control of the university, 35 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: isn't that. 36 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 3: Yes, it is, and you know it's transitioned from a 37 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 3: Navy project to a DARPA project to a private project. Yeah, 38 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 3: it's privately operated now in Alaska. They do work for 39 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 3: various government agencies and private institutions. So yes, it's still operating. 40 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 3: Yes it's still out there, but again it's kind of 41 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 3: been embedded in the university system. Creates a lot less 42 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 3: controversy for them. And I think that the big things 43 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 3: that military was trying to extract in terms of knowledge 44 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 3: were gained and they've moved on, and I think more 45 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 3: people have looked at this. You know, when Gene Manning 46 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: and I wrote Angels Don't Play This Harp and published 47 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 3: the first editions of that back in the early nineties. 48 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 3: Even today, you know, all these years later, we see 49 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 3: fresh reports coming out by other research essentially confirming what 50 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 3: we had said many many years ago. And I have 51 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 3: not changed my position on what it was originally intended 52 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 3: for in our initial research. We stand by it, and 53 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: it was extremely well document In fact, it was coast 54 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 3: to coast in Art bellback and I believe it was 55 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 3: ninety four. It was our first major radio show on 56 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 3: the subject, and Art replayed that four times that month 57 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 3: because it got so much attention, and those were the 58 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: days we did long play. I think it was either 59 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 3: a four it might have even been a five hour show, 60 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 3: but it set the tone. And now you hear a 61 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: whole lot about the things that we had talked about, 62 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 3: particularly in the area of weather modification as it relates 63 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 3: to what humans can do, and heart was one of 64 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: those technologies that we pointed out had those kinds of capabilities. 65 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: Meteorologists are predicting that the hurricane its season this year 66 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: could be one of the worst. Are we contributing to that? 67 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 4: I think it's a little bit of each, all right. 68 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: I think that now we've also seen in the last 69 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 3: twenty years media reports about other countries China, Russia and 70 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 3: others playing with the idea of weather modification, actually testing 71 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: their technologies. The thing that people need to recognize is 72 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 3: that when you start messing with these systems and their 73 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 3: energetic systems, you change things. And in physics, the concept 74 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 3: of the butterfly effect, where a small thing in one 75 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: end of the planet can create a hurricane on the 76 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 3: other flapping of a butterfly's wings, for the example. When 77 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,799 Speaker 3: you talk about these kinds of tools to affect weather 78 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 3: in one area, it's not isolated, it has everything is 79 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 3: connected in a profound way, and it has an effect 80 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 3: human beings. There was an experiment done actually, and it 81 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 3: was I'm trying to remember the name, but you probably 82 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 3: will when I started talking about but they had set 83 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 3: up these random computers around the world to try and 84 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: see what the consciousness of human beings were Doingerators, right, 85 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 3: And then they found out that human consciousness actually does influence, 86 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 3: or it appears to influence what's happening within the world. 87 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 3: And I'm not talking about smoke coming out of your 88 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 3: exhaust pipe. I'm talking about consciousness itself. 89 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 4: And when you look at. 90 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 3: This whole area and some of the best scientists and consciousness. 91 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 3: Elizabeth Rauscher was a dear friend of mine, passed away 92 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: a number of years ago. She had done some seminal 93 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 3: work in this area along with a number of others, 94 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 3: and published her work Consciousness embeds everything. We are active 95 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: participants in what happens around us, whether we acknowledge it 96 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 3: or not. And I think that's again, as we move 97 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 3: forward into this century, more is going to be learned 98 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 3: about this, and more is going to be learned. 99 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 4: About the fact that. 100 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 3: Consciousness drives it all and how we're connected to that, 101 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 3: I think is going to become increasingly clear, and certainly 102 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 3: is a separation within the science is occurring right now. 103 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 3: Good scientists from all over the world, the ones I've met, 104 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: and I've met many most of them have a really 105 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 3: deep spiritual nature because as they discover what is in 106 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 3: the universe, they discover a little bit perhaps about the 107 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 3: maker of the universe. 108 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: I've been preaching for years to protect our power grid 109 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 2: from electromagnetic pulse e MPs. So far no administration has 110 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 2: jumped at it. 111 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 3: This is probably again one of the one of the 112 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 3: big important issues. And I know, in fact, you had 113 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 3: a really excellent guest a number of years ago who 114 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 3: had published a book on the. 115 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 4: Topic, Bill Bill forston Yep. 116 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: That's it and uh and you know when you look 117 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 3: at the work he's done, the work others had done. 118 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,239 Speaker 4: Where did this all begin. 119 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 3: It began with atomic and thermal nuclear detonations in the atmosphere, 120 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 3: and it was observed that it knocked out communications for 121 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: a number of hours. And this is where the thing 122 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 3: started in terms of what it is and what it 123 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 3: could do. There was actually a patent around HARP and 124 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 3: it was one of Ben Easton's patents, and it was 125 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 3: not so much dealing with HARP as itself, but it 126 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 3: was this idea that you could create an EMP if 127 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 3: you could create a big enough energy burst. And so 128 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 3: whether it was thermal nuclear above the Earth or some 129 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: other energy burst, if you could put it a thermal 130 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 3: nuclear detonation above the United States or above China, you 131 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 3: could knock us back into the Stone Age. I mean, 132 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 3: you basically knock out every electromagnetic circuit, these fine circuits 133 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 3: that run all of our computers, telephones, everything in the 134 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 3: course of that nature also has this ability that some 135 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 3: will remember stories about something happened in the eighteen hundreds 136 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 3: and it was later dubbed the Carrington effect, and it 137 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 3: was a solar flare that was so substantial it created 138 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 3: a current that ran through telegraph wires, electrocuting people and 139 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: creating a huge problem for telegraph operators. 140 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 4: Today. 141 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 3: If we had such an event, we would lose basically 142 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 3: the technology that we have, except that was what shielded now. 143 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 3: I know from a military perspective, a lot has been 144 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 3: done in this area to try and shield the United 145 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 3: States from this kind of thing. But something as simple 146 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 3: as a couple of car batteries with the right kind 147 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 3: of simple technology, you can even buy it at an 148 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 3: autopart so or you can create a localized DMP that 149 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 3: would cover several blocks. As an example, something like that 150 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 3: going off in say New York City in the middle 151 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: of the financial district would create global chaos. These are small, 152 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 3: the technology is flat, meaning it's widely known around the world. 153 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 3: These type of technologies are the ones that are the 154 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 3: most destructive and yet you don't hear a lot in 155 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 3: the mainstream. Electromagnetic pulses, energy weapons as a concept. We 156 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 3: started talking about it thirty years ago. As we look 157 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 3: at what's happening today, high powered lasers, microwave weapons, all 158 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 3: of these technologies have emerged. 159 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 4: Most of them are still classified. 160 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 3: The only time that you see them is in wartime, 161 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 3: and you can even I would even suggest that the 162 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 3: present situation in the world, both in the Middle East 163 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 3: and in Ukraine and Russia, weapons are being tested. 164 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 4: And there used to be a concept during the Cold War. 165 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: One of my friends was a colonel and he was 166 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 3: a pilot, and they used to use the phrase we 167 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 3: would fly into Russian airspace to scare up their defenses, 168 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 3: to cause them to use their defenses so they could 169 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 3: triangulate radar stations and locate things and know about capability. 170 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 3: The Russians do it to us all the time, especially 171 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 3: in Alaska. They come into our airspace to see what 172 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 3: our defenses are and whether we can react to them. 173 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 3: So in war conflicts is where new technologies are tried. 174 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 4: To see what you can do. 175 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 3: Think of what Israel did in the knocking out of 176 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 3: or actually blowing up a bunch of cell phones held 177 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 3: by hamas amazing. 178 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 4: He is the gateway, It truly is. 179 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: It is one of a kind, to be sure. But 180 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 2: the EMPs you can protect the grid and forced and 181 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 2: predicted it would take about two billion dollars. That's a 182 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 2: jump change for us nowadays. 183 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 4: It is. 184 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: In fact, it's the price if I think a modern 185 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 3: B one bombers somewhere in that neighborhood these days. But again, 186 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 3: you know, these are things that need do need to 187 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 3: be pursued. I can say this that there's in this 188 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 3: administration we may see some of that. I mean, I 189 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 3: know that these issues are understood by some some of 190 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: the people in the Congress and the US Senate, and 191 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 3: I would suspect that that they will be part of 192 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 3: the dialogue as we move forward, especially as volatile as 193 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: the world has become. The idea of an artificial MP 194 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,599 Speaker 3: or a natural MP and being able to protect the 195 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 3: nation against those things is critical. If you think about 196 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 3: everything that we operate on now, very very few people 197 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 3: are self sufficient. I mean, in one hundred years ago, 198 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 3: ninety five percent of the people could could self sustain 199 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 3: with or without much of technology. 200 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 4: Today that's not true. 201 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 3: Technology shuts down water systems go offline, septic systems go offline, 202 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 3: and within forty eight hours chaos breaks out. 203 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 4: So we need to be concerned. 204 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 3: Emp is a natural threat and a man made threat, 205 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 3: and also a terrorist threat. 206 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 4: The fact of the matter is. 207 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 3: William Cohen that started to identify geoengineering as terrorists threats, 208 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: meaning that the technology had flattened out enough to where 209 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 3: the less sophisticated, the less technologically oriented governments had the 210 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 3: capability of developing these technologies. Nothing's changed except there's more 211 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 3: knowledge out there now than there ever was. The nature 212 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 3: of information is more widespread and disseminated than it ever was, 213 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 3: and genius comes from everywhere. There are smart people in 214 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 3: every part of the world. And who the universe touches 215 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 3: with intelligence, who God touches with intelligence. 216 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 4: Is everyone and anyone. 217 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 3: And this is what I would say also is people 218 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 3: are There's a lot of fear, fear obviously in the 219 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 3: world because of so much uncertainty. And what fear does 220 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 3: to the mind it shuts down our higher operating system 221 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 3: and I were to become more reactionary on an emotional level, 222 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 3: but also our higher ordered thinking is suspended when we're 223 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 3: in states of fear. Or intense negative emotion. So this 224 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 3: puts us in a frame where we can be hearded, pushed, 225 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 3: and manipulated much more easily in states of fear. So 226 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 3: conquering our own individual fear and with that gaining knowledge 227 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 3: suppresses fear a bit. But understanding there's a lot of 228 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 3: people that are good people scattered around the world looking 229 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 3: for solutions, and I think we're in the age of solutions. Yes, 230 00:13:55,600 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 3: we have the tensions of both extremes. I'm an optimist, 231 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 3: I always have been. I think we're going to come 232 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 3: out of this better humanity for it. But we're in 233 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 3: for some very very difficult times and I think we're 234 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 3: just seeing the beginnings of it. 235 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 236 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: one am Eastern, and go to Coast to coastam dot 237 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: com for more