1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Senator Ted Kruz Ben Ferguson with you. 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 2: We have a jam packed show for you today that 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 2: includes two big stories that deal with Israel, specifically in 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 2: a shock of Democrats demanding conditional aid to Israel if 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 2: they do certain things that would actually help Hamas. We're 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 2: going to deal with that. Plus, Hunter Biden is cracked 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 2: out demanding new things from Congress. His new demands that 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: are pretty funny. We'll explain those, but before we get 10 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: to that, on a serious note, Senator you and several 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: other senators, today we're able to sit down and watch 12 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: some of the horrific videos of the attack that Israel 13 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 2: on Israel by Hamas. I want you to walk us 14 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 2: through this because it's important that people understand just how barbaric, 15 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:55,319 Speaker 2: how well thought out, how well planned, how orchestrated, and 16 00:00:55,400 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: how these Jihadis trained in Iran to prepare for this attack. 17 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: Well, that's right. So it is right now eleven thirty 18 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: two pm on Tuesday night, and so we're recording this 19 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: at the end of the day Tuesday. I started the 20 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: day at nine am in a room in the Capitol 21 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 1: watching a video and the video consists of forty six 22 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: minutes of footage raw video that the Government of Israel 23 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: is compiled, and most of the footage is from either 24 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: body cameras that hamas terrorists were wearing, or from their 25 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: cell phones that they were wearing, or in some instances, 26 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: from security cameras that were set up in different people's 27 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: homes that filmed what was happening. And it was we 28 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: watched one hundred and thirty eight people being murdered. Wow, 29 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: it was. It was horrible. Look, I mean, I will 30 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: say there were about fifty seve in the room, so 31 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: about half the Senate came to watch. And I was 32 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: glad of that. And there were a fair number of 33 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: Democrats in the room. I was glad in particular the 34 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: Democrats were seeing this. I will say, look, it's one 35 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: thing to watch, like an action movie, to watch Rambo 36 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: or John Wick and you see lots of people being 37 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: shot and it's you know, it's Hollywood. What was horrifying 38 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: about this is this was real people being murdered in 39 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: real time. And it was one after the other after 40 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: the other. It was wanton, it was it was directed. 41 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: Any civilian they saw, they just came up and just 42 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: began firing shots at him, firing There were several things 43 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: that were horrifying, but one of the most horrifying aspects 44 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: was the joy that the Hamas terrorists expressed as they 45 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: were murdering, as they were shooting little children, as they 46 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: shooting women, as they were shooting just any civilian they saw. 47 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: As they were gunning down teenagers at the music festival. 48 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: They're laughing, they're cheering. They're saying Allah Akbar, God is great, 49 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: God is great, God is great, they said over and 50 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: over and over again, as they're just murdering people, and 51 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: there's there's a joy that the the raw hatred. We 52 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: saw them with a knife cutting the head off of 53 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: a corpse of a man, just sawing his head off, 54 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: and it's watching someone being beheaded. Thankfully, that man was 55 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: dead already, so at least he wasn't alive while he 56 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: was being beheaded, but they sawed his head off and 57 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: took his head as a as a trophy that We 58 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: saw footage of the terrorists desecrating bodies, playing with They 59 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: would they would sever heads and play with the heads. 60 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: We saw them dragging dead bodies of Jews into Gaza 61 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: and they throw them in the public square, and just 62 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: a mob would descend and kicking, punching and beat the 63 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: dead body. They were cheering in joys and celebration. I'll 64 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: tell you, Ben, that the most disturbing thing that I 65 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: saw in the video was actually audio, and it was 66 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: audio of a cell phone conversation that the Israelis intercepted, 67 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: and it was a Hamas terrorist who was calling home 68 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: to his parents in Gaza. And first he talks to 69 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: his dad and he says in Arabic, he says, Dad, 70 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: I just killed ten with my bare hands. I killed 71 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: ten with my bare hands. And he's so proud and 72 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: he's bragging, and his father is proud of him, and 73 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: he's bragging. He says over and over again, I killed 74 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: ten with my bare hands. And then he says, let 75 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: me talk to mom, let me talk to mom, and 76 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: his mother gets on the phone and he repeats again 77 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: his I killed ten Jews with my bare hands. I 78 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: killed them. I killed them, I killed them, I killed them, 79 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: and his mother is joyously crying. I gotta say, Ben. 80 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 2: Like they're celebrating it, that's what you're saying. This is 81 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: like a celebration of like winning a football game, except 82 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: they're actually mass murdering people. 83 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: Listen, the level of absolute hate in warfare. If you 84 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: have a war, let's say you have the Ukraine War 85 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: and the Russians and Ukrainians are shooting at each other, 86 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: there may be a day when a Russian soldier or 87 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: a Ukrainian soldier, let's say they shoot ten soldiers on 88 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: the other side. I cannot imagine someone calling their mom 89 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: and joyously describing I just killed ten people today, much 90 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: less the people they're killing. They're not opposing soldiers in 91 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: a war. They're civilians, they're women, they're little children that 92 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: they're gunning down. And I want you to think about 93 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: how just twisted the racist, vicious anti Semitic hate is 94 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: that's inculcated in Hamas. And most of these Hamas terrorists 95 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: that they're teenagers there. They're in their early twenties. They're 96 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: young Palestinians in Hamas, and they are thrilled when they 97 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: murder someone. They stop and say, take a selfie with me. 98 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: By the way, you also have idiots on college campuses 99 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: and and other morons on in the global media denying 100 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 1: these atrocities happen. Look, most of this video was filmed 101 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: by Hamas. They are proud of it. They want the 102 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: world to know what they did. And they photographed it, 103 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: they took videos of it, and you see them like 104 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: they go through a room and they're like some dead bodies, 105 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: but if something's not dead, they're like, shoot them in 106 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: the head, shoot them in the head, and I'll tell 107 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: you something else. That was really disconcerting. Repeatedly, the Hamas 108 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: terrorists number one, they referred to Israelis over and over 109 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: again as dogs. That's what they called him. Your dogs, 110 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: your dogs, your dogs. But they also repeatedly referred to 111 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: Israelis as it, not he or she it. And this 112 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: was multiple Hamas terrorists. It's over forty six minutes, so 113 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: it's lots of little videos that that that were spliced together, 114 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: but you'd have multiple Hamas terrorists saying things like it's dead, 115 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: it's dead, grab it, and I gotta say it. It 116 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: reminded me of the dehumanization of Jews by the Nazis, 117 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: that that that that they have been so inculcated in 118 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: vicious hatred that they are convinced that Jews are not people. 119 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,119 Speaker 1: They're not women, they're not men, they're not children, they're 120 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: it's and and and they're dogs, and it was to 121 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: see it. Listen, I've lived fifty two, almost fifty three 122 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: years on planet Earth. I've never had a day where 123 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: I've seen over one hundred and thirty people murdered in 124 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: front of my eyes. And that's how today began. 125 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: Explain how all of this transpired of the video being 126 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: put together? Who did that? 127 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: Who put this together? 128 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: For you guys as senators, this obviously wasn't classified. It 129 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 2: sounds encouraging that about fifty percent of the Senate showed up. 130 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: It also, to me is discouraging that the other fifty 131 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: percent did not show up. Should every senator have watched this? 132 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: Do they not have an obligation to watching it, to 133 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: see it, to understand it, to realize what happened on 134 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: that day, and why did some of me not show up? 135 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: And how was this put together? 136 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: So look, this was grotesque and horrible. I felt physically sick. 137 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to vomit in the room, being abject terror. 138 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: You're seeing a level of evil that I've never seen before. 139 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: And by the way, the one hundred and thirty plus 140 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: people who were murdered on these videos, that's about ten 141 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: percent of the Israelis that were murdered on October seventh, 142 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: they killed over twelve hundred, so that is right about 143 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: ten percent of the people who murdered that They have videos, 144 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: So this is it's a collection of videos that the 145 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: Israeli government put together and so a lot of them 146 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: are ones they got from Hamas social media. So a 147 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: lot of this Hamas posted this like they're proud of it, 148 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: they're celebrating what they did. Some of this they got 149 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: from Hamas cell phones. Some of this they got from 150 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: victim cell phones. So there are images of victim cell 151 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: phones where for example, you have a bunch of Israelis 152 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: hiding in a closet and terrified, saying they're coming, they're coming, 153 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: and you see them covered with blood. That there's videos, 154 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: some of them. A couple of the snippets in this 155 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: video have been on Twitter. So for example, they're video 156 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: of a relatively young Israeli woman I'd say probably early twenties, 157 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: wearing gray sweatpants, where her entire crotch area is covered. 158 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: It is soaked in blood, and it is obvious from 159 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: the blood that is both in the rear and the 160 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: front of a crotch area that this young woman has 161 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: been violently violently raped and probably raped with with four 162 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: and eye. The quantity of the blood suggests major bleeding. 163 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: And this woman is being like thrown in a truck 164 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: and being taken as a hostage. So after she was 165 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: violently raped, she was taken as a hostage. You see 166 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: lots of people taking as hostage and the joy of 167 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: the terrorists. So the way it was shown, the Israeli 168 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: government put it together, and that they spliced it together, 169 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: and it's as I said, it's from Hamas social media, 170 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: it's from Hamas cell phones, it's from victim social media, 171 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: it's from victim cell phones. There were a number of 172 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: videos from security cam, security footage like in someone's home 173 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: if they have a security camera. There were footage of 174 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: the terrorists coming in, the terrorists going into a kindergarten, 175 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: shooting a teacher, and there were also footage from first 176 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: responders who came in after, so after the attack happened, 177 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: they came in and for example, in the music festival, 178 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: you know, the music festival Hamas terrorists came in on 179 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: paragliders and with machine guns murdered a couple of hundred, 180 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: mostly young people, who were at an outdoor music festival. 181 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: And like the first responders walking through, there were just 182 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: dozens of bodies, like in an area behind behind the 183 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 1: like coke machines, not coke machines, but sort of soda 184 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: fountains where they were serving drinks, and you could see 185 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: that people were hiding. They were hiding behind the counters. 186 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: And this was a first responder video, so we don't 187 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: know how those people were murdered, but presumably terrorists came 188 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: in with machine guns and just shot one after the 189 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: other after the other as they were hiding. There was 190 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: also at the music festival, there was a whole line 191 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: of porta potties. You know, probably I don't know, twenty 192 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: or thirty porta parties. This was a big outdoor music festival, 193 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: so it was a place for people to go to 194 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: the restroom. And the hamas terrasts walk down all the 195 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: porta potties have the doors closed, and they walk down 196 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: and they shoot multiple bullets through the doors of each 197 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: porta potty, and you know, they're obviously assuming and we 198 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: didn't actually see someone killed in the porta potty, but 199 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: we did see one of the porta potties with just 200 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: blood smeared all throughout. So obviously at least one person 201 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: was hiding in there and was murdered, and it was 202 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: just so this was put together by the Israeli government. 203 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: They have shown it to multiple people in the Senate. 204 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: The people who displayed it for the other senators were 205 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: Marco Rubio and Jackie Rosen. Marco Rubio is the ranking 206 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: member on the Intelligence Committee. Jackie Rosen. I don't know 207 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: why the two of them were the ones showing it, 208 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: but they decided to show it, and as I said, 209 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: about half the senators came listen. People were really you know, 210 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: senators are a pretty garrulous bunch. They're they're often joking, 211 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: they're talking. People walking out of it were in tears, 212 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: like it was. It was horrifying to see, and like 213 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: when we filed out of the room, the room was silent, 214 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: like no one was speaking. It was just like, oh 215 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: my god, what did I just watch? And I believe 216 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: we had a responsibility to watch it. I did not 217 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: want to watch this footage, but I felt like it 218 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: is my responsibility to know what happened and also to 219 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: be able to tell people what happened, and so it 220 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: I think it's impt the senators who didn't watch it. 221 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 1: I would encourage every one of them, you need to 222 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: watch it. And I'll tell you, I hope the Israeli 223 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: government releases this footage just universally. They've right now, they've 224 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: kept it confidential. So it was not a classified briefing, 225 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: but it was in a room in the capital that's 226 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: sort of right. It's right next to the skiff, which 227 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: is the UH secure classified area. And the rules were 228 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: coming in that each of us had to check our 229 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: cell phones that they did not want any of us 230 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: to take a cell phone in. Presumably they didn't want 231 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: any recordings. And I understand the sensitivity. Look, these are 232 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: people being murdered and they want to be sensitive to 233 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: the victims. And I'm I fully get that. I will 234 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: say on much of the footage, particularly with the children, 235 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: there were lots of dead bodies. There were lots of 236 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: corpses that were burned, that were horribly burned. We saw 237 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: corpses of little children and infants that were burned or 238 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: chris they were unrecogni issable. We saw bodies of adults burned, 239 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: burned completely, many of them in their cars. They were 240 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: chasing people down in their cars as they drove. They 241 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: chased them down and just shoot and killed the driver 242 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: in their car. That happened in a lot of different cars. 243 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: The bodies that were just lining the streets. Like twelve 244 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: hundred people murdered is a volume, and as I said, 245 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: we only saw just over one hundred and thirty of it. 246 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 2: But this is a massacre that took extreme number of 247 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: people to pull it off. Because you know, as I 248 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 2: was talking to one one person that. 249 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: It was thousands of hamas terrasts. 250 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 2: That, yes's and that's what it was described by me 251 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: by something I talked to that is in the military 252 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: in Israel. He said. The difference, he said, between what 253 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: you guys went through a nine to eleven was it 254 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: was massive explosions and the planes and the people of 255 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 2: the buildings. This was hand to hand massacres, whereas it 256 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 2: was described by him as it was up close and personal. 257 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 2: You're shooting people from three four five feet away, You're 258 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 2: grabbing people and then killing them. This was barbaric on 259 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: a personal level. And I'm assuming that's what you, in 260 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 2: essence had to witness today. 261 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: So when I next talk with the Israeli government, I'm 262 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: going to encourage them to release it publicly, and I 263 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: am deeply sympathetic to wanting to respect the victims and 264 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: the victims' families, but I think there's also an obligation 265 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: to document this for history, much like if you go 266 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: to the Holocaust Museum in DC, which it's an incredible museum. Look, 267 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: it's horrifying because they show the utter horrors of what 268 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: the Nazis did, and they document many of the victims, 269 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: and it's valuable. You know, after the Holocaust, the phrase 270 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: never again, it in order for that to mean something, 271 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: you got to understand what happened. And so I think, 272 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: you know, if you go to Israel Yad Vasham, which 273 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: is the memorial again to the Holocaust, is a beautiful, 274 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: beautiful museum, but it's horrifying. I mean you go through 275 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: and you watch, you know, the Nazis did just grotesque, 276 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: inhumane things. I mean they tortured and murdered people. They 277 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: murdered six million Jews. They did things like they made 278 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: lamp shades from human skin. I mean, the Nazis dehumanized 279 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: the Jews as dogs, and it's just like the hamas terrorist. 280 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: And what was so horrifying watching this video is this 281 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: was no different than watching Nazis except this is twenty 282 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: twenty three and not nineteen forty. 283 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. I hope that the government 284 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 2: of Israel will release it. And like you said, I'm 285 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 2: glad that about fifty centers show up, but the other 286 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 2: fifty need to see this as well. This shouldn't be 287 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 2: a Republican or Democrat, conservative liberal thing. 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I think part of the reason why there 320 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 2: are some in DC that don't want to see these 321 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: videos is because it's going to put pressure on them 322 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 2: to change their mindset or to realize that you can't 323 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: live in a world where Hamas has power, or Hamas 324 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 2: is in control of a government. For goodness sakes, there 325 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: is new reporting coming out of Washington tonight that Biden 326 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 2: is putting pressure on Israeli tactics that would in fact 327 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 2: leave Hamas intact and in power after this ceasefire. Sources 328 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 2: within the Israeli government have said to Breitbart News that 329 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 2: the US President Joe Biden's pressure would lead to Hamas 330 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 2: surviving the war intact, rather than allowing Israel to destroy 331 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: Hamas or remove its military and governing capabilities. In recent days, 332 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 2: the White House has acknowledged that Israel intends to continue 333 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 2: fighting Hamas after the current pause sought by Biden to 334 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 2: allow the release of hostages. As that ends later this week. 335 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 2: The Israelis have been pretty clear quote unquote that once 336 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 2: the pauses are complete and the hostage exchanges are over, 337 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: that they intend to continue their military operations against Hamas. 338 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 2: That's so, the White House Advisor John Kirby said on Monday. Also, 339 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,719 Speaker 2: to put it in perspective, the media has been claiming 340 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 2: that Israel has been trading hostages. That's not true. Israel 341 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 2: does not hold hostages. It is releasing convicted Palestinian terrorists 342 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 2: to save the lives of those that were taken hostage. 343 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 2: And so now we're at this pivotal moment center that 344 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 2: makes me angry, especially after what you just described, that 345 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 2: the Biden's goals may be changing, and Democrats are putting 346 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 2: pressure to say, hey, let's figure out a way that 347 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 2: we can coexist with Hamas and then maybe in power 348 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 2: or even in leadership. 349 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: Look, the left wing of the Democrat Party right now 350 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: is profoundly anti Israel. We're seeing the House of Representatives 351 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: with the squad, We're seeing just vicious anti Semitism. We're 352 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: seeing it on college campuses across the country. The left 353 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: wing of the Democrat Party, the cultural bar This is 354 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: something I talk about extensively and in my brand new 355 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: book Unwoke the Cultural Marxist. The book is how to 356 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: defeat Cultural Marxism in America. And the cultural Marxists define Israel, 357 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: they define Jews as oppressors, they define Palestinians as victims, 358 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: and as a result, the radical left, they support the 359 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 1: violent revolution of the victims against the so called oppressors. 360 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: What that means for the White House. Listen, We've talked 361 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: at length on this podcast about the hostage deal. I'm 362 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: very very glad the hostages are being released. That's caused 363 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: for celebration. The price of some fifty odd hostages being 364 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: released is that Hamas is getting stronger, Hamas is recuperating, 365 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: Hamas is restoring. It will be more difficult for Israel 366 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: to defeat Hamas, and there likely will be IDF Israeli 367 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: soldier casualties that will be higher because Hamas is stronger. 368 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: That is a outcome. Israel is also releasing roughly one 369 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty Palestinian prisoners who are convicted criminals. Many 370 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: of them are convicted of terrorism. Some significant percentage of 371 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: them will return to terrorism, and so there will be Israelis. 372 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,719 Speaker 1: There will be very possibly Americans who are murdered because 373 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: those terrorists are being released. That's the downside of the deal. 374 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: There's another downside of the deal, which is Israel is 375 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 1: engaging in a temporary pause and they're doing it to 376 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: bring their civilians home, to bring women and children home, 377 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: and that is a wonderful thing. But as the pause continues, 378 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: the leftists in the White House and in the corrupt 379 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: corporate media and on the global stage will all pressure 380 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: Israel do not resume fighting Hamas. Do not try to 381 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: defeat Hamas, do not try to eradicate Hamas, do not 382 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: try to eliminate Hamas. That is completely wrong. I believe 383 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: Prime Minister Netanyahu when he said that Israel is going 384 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: to utterly eliminate Hamas. We should stand with them. And 385 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 1: I'll tell you look to give you a sense of 386 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: just how fractured the Democrat party is. Right now. There 387 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: is right now a vigorous and contentious debate among Senate Democrats. 388 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: And the contentious debate is whether to condition military assistance 389 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: to Israel on a set of demands concerning Gaza, and 390 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: the people leading the charge are Bernie Sanders and Chris Murphy. 391 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: But Bernie obviously is the socialist from Vermont. Chris Murphy 392 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: is the extremely liberal Democrat from Connecticut. They are both 393 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: rabidly left wing. Sanders has floated demands for Israel to 394 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: end its quote indiscriminate bombing of Gaza. By the way, 395 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: Israel is not engaged in indiscriminate bombing of Gaza, It's 396 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: targeting terrorists. Sanders also wants to allow aid into the 397 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: region and take other steps to quote lay the groundwork 398 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: for a peaceful resolution to the conflict. Other left wingers. 399 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: Senator Peter Welts, the other Democrat from Vermont, said we've 400 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: got to have the debate. You can't have that many 401 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: civilian casualties as a part of the Net and Yahoo 402 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: war plan. Now, notice who the Democrats are targeting. It's 403 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: not Hamas, it's not the terrorist, it's Net Yahoo, Net 404 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: and Yaho's the bad guy. Why Because to the cultural 405 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: Marxist Net and Yaho is the oppressor, and the Hamas 406 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: terrorists who are gleefully beheading civilians and raping little girls, 407 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: they're the victims. This debate is is vigorous, it is significant, 408 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: it is it by by public reports, was really energetic 409 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: in the Democrat conference. And they want and by the way, 410 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: that they're not talking just about conditioning the emergency military 411 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: aid to to Israel for the Maas war. They're talking 412 00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: about the military aid that that America regularly provides to Israel. 413 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: So putting in pro Hamas restrictions, and that's what the 414 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: left wing of the Democrat Party wants. Now, I will 415 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: say there are some Democrats who are pushing back. So 416 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: for example, Chris Coons from Delaware said, quote, I'm not 417 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: sure that would come of that now, so he was 418 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: pouring some cold water on that. Tim Kine from Virginia 419 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: said quote, I don't think you're going to see conditionality. 420 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: That's helpful. Mark Kelly, Democrat from Arizona, said quote, I 421 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: think it's important to be clear here that Israel was 422 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: violently attacked on October seventh, and they have a right 423 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: to defend themselves. That's actually quite helpful. And Ben Cardon, 424 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: who's right now the chairman of the Senate Formulations Committee, 425 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: told reporters he is opposed to conditioning AID. Now that 426 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: all of that is the Democrats who are pushing back, 427 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: that is a good thing. 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Senator, I want to ask you one other 460 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 2: last question on Israel, and you mentioned these senators that 461 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 2: are wavering in the Democrat On the Democratic side, you 462 00:28:55,440 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: forced to vote before the recessover things giving for emergency 463 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 2: funding for Israel stand alone, not tied to funding for 464 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 2: Ukraine or any other portrayl project. It failed on a 465 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 2: party line vote. You needed just one Democrat to switch over, 466 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 2: not a single Democrat switched over to do the right thing. 467 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 2: That was very telling as well about the Democratic Party 468 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 2: right now. But where does that funding stand now? Is 469 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 2: it still at a standstill or is it moving with 470 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 2: other legislation? 471 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: Where are we? It's a complete standstill. So the House 472 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: has passed funding emergency military aid for Israel fourteen and 473 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: a half a billion dollars. The House paid for it 474 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: by rescinding fourteen and a half billion dollars of the 475 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: additional funding Democrats had passed for the IRS to pay 476 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: for eighty seven thousand new IRS agents. When it came 477 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: to the Senate, Chuck Schumer initially said he would not 478 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: allow the Senate to vote on what the House had passed, 479 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: that emergency military aid for Israel was just not apparently 480 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: a priority for Schumer. So I join with a number 481 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: of other Republican senators two weeks ago and we used 482 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: a special procedural tool to force a vote on the 483 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: Senate floor. And you and I talked about this at 484 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: length at the podcast two weeks ago where we explained 485 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: what happened. We forced to vote through what's called filing 486 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: a rogue cloture petition, and Democrats freaked out, but ultimately 487 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: we had the vote, and it was astonishing. Every single Democrat, 488 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:31,719 Speaker 1: all of them, voted against emergency military aid to Israel. 489 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: It was the day of the massive pro Israel march 490 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: in Washington that I had gone to and participated in 491 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: some three hundred thousand supporters of Israel on the mall. 492 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: And there were Democrat senators who went to that march 493 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: and then went to the Senate and voted against military 494 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: aid for Israel. Now they did so because they knew 495 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: the corporate media would never tell the voters about their vote. 496 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: And I have not seen even a single story on CNN, 497 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: on ABC, on NBC, on CBS, in the New York 498 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: Times and the Washington Post. The corporate media simply disappeared 499 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: it, it does not exist, because that they are propagandists. They 500 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: do not want people to know that Chuck Schumer and 501 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: the Democrats are blocking military aid to Israel. Now, why 502 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: did they do that. They did so. Number one, because 503 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: they are passionately committed to eighty seven thousand new IRS 504 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: agents to harass their political enemies, to go after small 505 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: businesses and families, and to raise more money for them 506 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: to spend. And so they did not want any reduction 507 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: in funding for their army of new IRS agents. But 508 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: number two, they very cynically want to tie Israel funding 509 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: to a Christmas list of other Democrat priorities, and top 510 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: of the list is funding for Ukraine, which the Democrats 511 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: really really want. And they want to tie funding for 512 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: Ukraine to funding for Israel because they want to try 513 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: to force Republicans to vote for it because we support Israel. 514 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: They want to try to extract a blank check for 515 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: Ukraine as the price for aid to Israel. That's really cynical. 516 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: I think we need to take up and pass Israel 517 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: funding on its own separately. But it says something that 518 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: Schumer whipped the Democrats and all of them voted against 519 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,479 Speaker 1: military aid for Israel. And by the way, you know 520 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: I talked a minute ago about the the left wing 521 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: Senate Democrats pushing for conditioning aid to Israel on Gaza 522 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: and on making concessions to Gaza and effectively to hamas well. 523 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: On Friday of last week, Joe Biden at the press 524 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: conference of the White House was asked about that. The 525 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: question he was asked was, quote, mister President, there are 526 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: members of your party who would like to see conditions 527 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: placed on aid to Israel. What is your view on 528 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: that they would like to see, you know, a reduction 529 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: in the bombing and that sort of thing. And here 530 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: was Joe Biden's answer, quote, well, I think that's a 531 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: worthwhile thought. But I don't think if I started off 532 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: with that that we have ever gotten to where we 533 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: are today. We are having to take this a piece 534 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: at a time. I want you to note Joe Biden 535 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: from the White House said it is a quote worthwhile 536 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: thought to condition aid to Israel. Now, he didn't embrace 537 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: the idea, so that was good. He didn't go all 538 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: the way to Bernie Sanders and Chris Murphy and the 539 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: anti Israel squad, but he claimed their view that their 540 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: demand to undermine Israel was a quote worth while thought. 541 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: That is the state of today's Democrat Party. They are 542 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: terrified of their left wing and this feisure in the 543 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: Democrat Party. It is getting worse in Congress every single 544 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: day within the Democrats. 545 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have no doubt about it. I got to 546 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 2: ask you about this other issue real quick before I 547 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 2: let you go, and that is Hunter Biden agrees to 548 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 2: appear before the House Oversight Committee. I promise we're going 549 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 2: to spend more time on this later this week, but 550 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 2: I have to get your ditch reaction to his demands 551 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 2: after being subpoenaed that he will do it, but only 552 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 2: in public. That is what his lawyer has now said 553 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 2: that yes, he's willing to testify it before the House 554 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 2: Oversight Committee, only in public. According to the letter from 555 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 2: his attorney that he wrote to the Republican lawmakers, I 556 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 2: get trying to punch back and look like you're on offense. 557 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 2: But to be clear, it is not crazy to have 558 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 2: a subpoena behind closed doors. We saw this happen when 559 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 2: they were trying to impeach not once but twice Donald J. Trump. 560 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 2: They had people come in behind closed doors and they 561 00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 2: do these sit downs and answer questions under O, they 562 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 2: give their testimony in essence, and then we saw the 563 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 2: media go berserk over who is walking in to give 564 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 2: their testimony? Why does Hunter Biden want it differently, and 565 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 2: what's the political play here that we may not understand. 566 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: Well, you're right that it's quite common for people to 567 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: be subpoena to testify behind closed doors and in a 568 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 1: closed deposition. That happens regularly Congressional committees that are investigating 569 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: something they like to do that you can often spend 570 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: more time asking questions. You can essentially prepare and build 571 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: the foundations for an open and public hearing. It's the 572 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 1: due diligence you do before a hearing, and not everyone 573 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: that you bring in for a closed deposition merits a hearing. 574 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: So I understand why the committee initially subpoenaed him to 575 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 1: come in for a deposition. I also understand why Hunter 576 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: Biden came back and said he would do it, but 577 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: only if it's a public hearing. His lawyer is a 578 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: guy named Abbi Lowell. I don't know Abby personally, but 579 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: he has a reputation as one of the most experienced 580 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: and most talented lawyers in Washington for fighting congressional investigations, 581 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: and so he does when when when an individual is 582 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: in a whole lot of trouble with a criminal investigation 583 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,879 Speaker 1: or congressional investigation. This lawyer is one of the top 584 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,720 Speaker 1: Washington power brokers for fighting back. And the stated reason 585 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: that Hunter Biden and his lawyer gave is they said, well, 586 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: the Republicans in the House, when they've done closed door depositions, 587 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: they quote selectively leak portions of the depositions in ways 588 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: that make the witnesses look bad. So we don't want 589 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: that to happen. We want the public to see exactly 590 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: what Hunter says. Now, look, that's a gamble, you know, 591 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: if you're the lawyer. There is a real advantage for 592 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 1: Hunter in keeping it closed door and not having a video, 593 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: not having it on the news. Will portions of it 594 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 1: get leaked? Of course, that's what people and politics do 595 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: on both sides all the time. The January sixth Committee 596 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: did it day after day after day after day. Both 597 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: sides do that. But I will say by demanding that 598 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: it be public, there's some degree of protection for Hunter 599 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 1: Biden and having it be public and that it can't 600 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 1: be selectively leaked. You get to hear everything he said. 601 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: But it's also a risky play having it be public. 602 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 1: Even as corrupt as the corporate media is, when Hunter 603 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 1: Biden testifies before the House, the corporate media cannot avoid 604 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 1: covering it. So it will drive a crap ton of news. 605 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,720 Speaker 1: And I say crap ton is a technical legal term, 606 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 1: but it will it will be. And you know, look, 607 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,280 Speaker 1: I don't know Hunter Biden. I've never met Hunter Biden. 608 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: I don't know how he is at answering questions, but 609 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: I have no reason to expect that he's a particularly 610 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: nimble or effective witness. And so you're going to have 611 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: some very vigorous questioning. And I will say, listen James Comber. 612 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: We've had James Comer on this podcast for a two 613 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 1: part interview. If you didn't listen to that, by the way, 614 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 1: you ought to go back and listen to our two 615 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: part interview with James Comer. You ought to go back 616 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,840 Speaker 1: and listen to our two part interview with Jim Jordan. 617 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: Both of them, we did a deep dive in terms 618 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: of those House investigations and what they've revealed. A date 619 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: my counsel to House Republicans when Hunter Biden testifies in 620 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 1: an open hearing is Remember, the reason this is an 621 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: issue of public concern is not about Hunter. It is 622 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: not because he's some poor, sad sack with a substance 623 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: abuse problem. 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That's Patriotmobile dot com or nine 660 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 2: seven to two Patriot that's nine seven to two Patriot 661 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:56,320 Speaker 2: or Patriot Mobile dot com that's Patriotmobile dot Com or 662 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 2: nine seven to two Patriot. Use the promo code Verdict 663 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 2: you'll get free activation as well. That's Promo Code Verdict Center. 664 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 2: Is there any hope that we will ever get to 665 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 2: see real justice coming out of the House that could 666 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,800 Speaker 2: possibly move somewhere when it comes to the Biden crime family. 667 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 2: Do you feel like we are getting closer by the 668 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 2: way that Comer and Jordan are doing this methodically? There 669 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 2: have been a lot of i say, Monday morning quarterbacking 670 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 2: and armchair quarterbacking from a lot of people on social 671 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 2: media are saying, we've screwed this up, We've gotten nowhere. 672 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 2: They promise to do something, they haven't done it yet. 673 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 2: Is that a fair assessment, because I think what they've 674 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 2: been doing is really making sure they do this right 675 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 2: so it sticks. 676 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Listen, I think both Jim Jordan and James Comer 677 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: are doing an excellent job. I think they're approaching their 678 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 1: job very seriously. I think they're laying out the evidence 679 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 1: in a systematic matter. I think that's important. I think 680 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 1: laying out the evidence for the public matters enormously. I 681 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 1: believe the House should already have impeached Alejandro mayorcis. I 682 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 1: believe the how should already have impeached Merrick Garland, and 683 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to impeachment of Biden, I 684 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,240 Speaker 1: think they're getting very very close to having the evidence 685 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 1: to impeach Joe Biden as well. The question on all 686 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 1: three of those is will they have the votes in 687 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 1: the House. So the House Republicans have an exceptionally narrow majority, 688 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: they have a four vote majority, it's not clear that 689 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 1: they have the votes to impeach any of them, and 690 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: so that's a fundamental challenge that they face. The new Speaker, 691 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,919 Speaker 1: Mike Johnson. I know Mike very well. He's a conservative. 692 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:43,800 Speaker 1: I'm confident that Mike would be perfectly willing to impeach 693 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: these officials if he had the votes. But if there 694 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 1: are five Republicans who say no, there's no magic wand 695 00:42:55,560 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 1: that can change that. And so I think given that 696 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: very real dynamic, that it is a tiny majority with 697 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 1: a number of wobbly votes, the best course of action 698 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: the House can do is keep developing the evidence and 699 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 1: making the case stronger and stronger and stronger, and developing 700 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 1: it in front of the American people who ultimately are 701 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: going to be the arbiter because look, even if they 702 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 1: impeached all three of them, none would be removed by 703 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 1: the Senate. It takes two thirds of the Senate to 704 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:30,720 Speaker 1: remove an individual and impeachment and the chances that Senate 705 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 1: Democrats would vote to do so are zero point zero 706 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: zero zero percent. 707 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll certainly be following this and we'll keep you 708 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 2: updated on it. Don't forget that you can listen to 709 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 2: this podcast Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays wherever you get your podcasts, 710 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,720 Speaker 2: hit that subscriber auto download button. In those days in between, 711 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 2: make sure you grab my podcast, The Ben Ferguson Podcasts, 712 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,959 Speaker 2: and I'll keep you up with the latest breaking news 713 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 2: on those in between days. As always, thank you for 714 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,240 Speaker 2: listening and sharing this podcast wherever you are on social 715 00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 2: media in the center and I will see you back 716 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 2: here on Friday morning.