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Speaker 1: it up for hour two? Yeah? The first hour was
Speaker 1: whose future would you want? Patriots or Jets? Over eighty
Speaker 1: percent one Patriots. Let's go, which quarterback would you want
Speaker 1: to build around? Lamar Jackson or Kyler Murray. A lot
Speaker 1: of people are diving into this topic. It's all over
Speaker 1: Twitter today even before this. I'm not sure. I think
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's quote yesterday sort of said to people, Oh,
Speaker 1: the Ravens aren't going the right direction, but they're still
Speaker 1: winning a lot of games. Yeah, they're still good. But
Speaker 1: I think we're looking at the individual play. You're also
Speaker 1: factoring the postseason with what happened to Lamar Jackson last year.
Speaker 1: But imagine you were the unanimous MVP the previous year
Speaker 1: and people are already looking for somebody else as we
Speaker 1: move forward here, or they're willing to invest in Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray more than Lamar Jackson. We've seen enough of both
Speaker 1: where you've got this figured out of what they're going
Speaker 1: to be like for the next five years. And I
Speaker 1: do love that time frame. If I give you any
Speaker 1: quarterback for the next five years, what quarterback are you taking?
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes seems obvious. If I take Mahomes
Speaker 1: out of the equation, justin Herbert next five years, who
Speaker 1: do you have? Kyler Murray's right there because he's doing
Speaker 1: it with it. He's gonna maybe rush for a thousand
Speaker 1: and throw for over three thousand that's never happened before,
Speaker 1: maybe get his team into the playoffs. Yeah, mclement, Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence with the callat you get to build for four
Speaker 1: years with the salary cap, so that's part of it too.
Speaker 1: Kyler's still cheap, Lamar still hasn't gotten paid. But it
Speaker 1: makes me nervous, though Joe Burrow with the Bengals makes
Speaker 1: me nervous with Trevor Lawrence with the Jets. It's not
Speaker 1: just the quarterback, it's who's with you. And you know,
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury may not have been a great head coach
Speaker 1: in college, but he is a great offensive minded head
Speaker 1: coach in the NFL. And that partnership with Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: is really paying off. It feels like that he knew
Speaker 1: who he wanted, he created the offense specifically for him,
Speaker 1: the same thing that Carolina did with Cam Newton. And
Speaker 1: more coaches and more offensive coordinators are doing this, what
Speaker 1: kind of offense can we run to make you better?
Speaker 1: It used to be you'd bring in somebody and say, okay,
Speaker 1: this is our offense. And I think we've done a
Speaker 1: disservice to some quarterbacks down through the years where you
Speaker 1: should have been throwing more or allowing a quarterback to
Speaker 1: run more. And we were kind of stuck in the
Speaker 1: you know, the dark ages with our offenses. And then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we started to see more teams,
Speaker 1: more coaches, more offensive coordinators buy into what college is doing.
Speaker 1: College doesn't borrow from the NFL it's the other way around, right,
Speaker 1: So we have our poll question. McLevin. Yeah, I'll just
Speaker 1: make a quick argument for the Ravens, Okay. I think
Speaker 1: the Ravens would be heavily favored against the Cardinals head
Speaker 1: to head, and because they play a conservative style. Lamar
Speaker 1: isn't it doesn't have a spread out field like but
Speaker 1: this isn't about the team. This is about the quarterback, right.
Speaker 1: I think if you put Lamar in Arizona, he would
Speaker 1: put up. We'd have better numbers this year. I think
Speaker 1: like Kyler's benefiting from everything going on there in Arizona. Well,
Speaker 1: if you said you want Kyla Murray and I'd take
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, I'm fine with that. Yeah, I got think
Speaker 1: gets one in one A. There's not a big drop
Speaker 1: off there. And Kyler would be really good in Baltimore too. Probably. Yes,
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is going to be good no matter where
Speaker 1: he is because he has the ability. He can be
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, but more electric. He can make you pay
Speaker 1: more because his legs. He's one of the faster players
Speaker 1: in the game. Russ keeps a play alive. He's very smart,
Speaker 1: he slides Kyler Kyler can beat you with a forty
Speaker 1: yard run. Russ doesn't do that. Yeah, boy, you're right.
Speaker 1: But Kyler Murray, he's a genius about not getting hit.
Speaker 1: He takes the angles, he'll slide way early, like he
Speaker 1: could have a fifty yard run unil like twenty Five's fine.
Speaker 1: He out of bounds. It's really genius by him to
Speaker 1: stay up right. Well, I think I don't want to
Speaker 1: give him too much credit for avoiding getting hit by
Speaker 1: somebody who weighs one hundred pounds more than him. It's
Speaker 1: there are a lot of these quarterbacks who get caught
Speaker 1: up in I gotta get the extra yard. I gotta
Speaker 1: show how tough I am. And remember when Jim Brown,
Speaker 1: the Great Jim Brown criticized Franco Harris. Franco Harris would
Speaker 1: run out of bounds and we thought, you're no running back.
Speaker 1: You gotta, you know, punish those defensive players. And Franco
Speaker 1: was ahead of his time. Franco was like, um, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe I avoid a hit and I get
Speaker 1: out of bounds. I might not get one more yard,
Speaker 1: but I get out of bounds. Yes, you're making it
Speaker 1: uncomfortable over here. Paully is stilling because you didn't mention
Speaker 1: thirty four for the Bears. Yeah, but Walter Peaton didn't
Speaker 1: go out of bounds. He still hasn't never ocase he
Speaker 1: was pushed out of bounds and think there's a flag.
Speaker 1: Isaiah Thomas has done it again. Thank you, Isaiah. He
Speaker 1: was on Shay That's Shannon Sharp's podcast, and I don't
Speaker 1: know what Isaiah's doing, but here is Shannon Sharp talking
Speaker 1: to Isaiah Thomas about the five toughest players he faced
Speaker 1: when he was playing. Who would you say, are the
Speaker 1: five toughest players that you've had to face again? You know,
Speaker 1: and you can just go back to winning records, right,
Speaker 1: you know, right, Magic, Kareem Bird, Doctor Jay. And then
Speaker 1: I would say Jordan, Okay, you got my attention there,
Speaker 1: and then um Shannon chrups follow following up about you know,
Speaker 1: Jordans not being in is uh you know the top five,
Speaker 1: you know just had to head. You know, I was
Speaker 1: dominant over him when all teams met. You know, when
Speaker 1: you go back and you look at until ninety one,
Speaker 1: when I when I basically had career in the risk
Speaker 1: surgery up until then, my record against against against him
Speaker 1: and his team, it wasn't it really wasn't competition there.
Speaker 1: He just wasn't my competition. Now, Bird didn't have anything
Speaker 1: that you wanted. He didn't have the trophies. No, And
Speaker 1: like I said, my focus was Bird Magic, Doctor Jay
Speaker 1: Kareem Abdul Jabbar Oh's were the guys. And that's fair.
Speaker 1: Like that part of it is fair because at the
Speaker 1: time that's a young Jordan and a Bulls team that
Speaker 1: wasn't very good and Isaiah was playing for a very
Speaker 1: good team with the Bad Boys. I think that timeline,
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. But five toughest players he faced,
Speaker 1: considering what the Bad Boys did to Michael Jordan, the
Speaker 1: Jordan rules when he went up, when he went to
Speaker 1: the hoop, you knocked him down, and you're not gonna
Speaker 1: put him in one of the five toughest players you faced.
Speaker 1: That to me, it feels like he's sort of trolling
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan again. And of course you know, Michael doesn't
Speaker 1: ment words, doesn't like Isaiah Thomas certainly doesn't like him now,
Speaker 1: didn't like him when they were playing the whole dream
Speaker 1: team situation. But let me hear it again, the five
Speaker 1: toughest players Isaiah Thomas faced, who would you say are
Speaker 1: the five toughest players that you've had to face again,
Speaker 1: you know, And you can just go about to winning records, right,
Speaker 1: you know, Magic, Kareem Burd, Doctor Jay, and then I
Speaker 1: would say Jordan, okay, but he puts him fifth. But
Speaker 1: the toughest players you faced. If you're saying, hey, we
Speaker 1: were always better than them, okay, he was better than
Speaker 1: Jordan's bulls. It wasn't better than Jordan, but he was
Speaker 1: better than Jordan's bulls. I don't know how you can
Speaker 1: include Michael Jordan in there higher than that toughest player
Speaker 1: ever faced and at least be fair to Jordan, say, look,
Speaker 1: I don't like him. He didn't like me when we played.
Speaker 1: He didn't like me. I didn't like him, and we
Speaker 1: beat the hell out of him. But you know what,
Speaker 1: I gotta give him credit. He got up and he
Speaker 1: eventually ended up winning championships. And you could argue these
Speaker 1: the greatest player of all time, like that's the answer
Speaker 1: that should have happened. But I know they hate each
Speaker 1: other and maybe you know he can't come clean with
Speaker 1: something like that, Seaton. Why is it so impossible for us,
Speaker 1: I'll say, us to accept someone ranking another player ahead
Speaker 1: of Michael Jordan in anything, like there's actually no even
Speaker 1: metric for toughness. There's no way to actually measure it.
Speaker 1: It's just it's totally buy it someone's opinion, right. You
Speaker 1: can't like point to like look at points or titles
Speaker 1: or anything like that. But just to have a few
Speaker 1: players who are all great players over Michael Jordan is
Speaker 1: like it's impossible. We can't accept it. There's no he
Speaker 1: was the toughest player. You cannot tell me he wasn't.
Speaker 1: Oh no, seems so crazy, Like, but I don't know
Speaker 1: if he's the toughest that we had to face or
Speaker 1: individually the toughest that we've faced, because there's a difference
Speaker 1: in that, you know, Bird's teams were better, Doctor Jay's
Speaker 1: teams were better, Kareem's teams were better. But as far
Speaker 1: as toughness, tough to beat you or that we or
Speaker 1: tough that we beat you up. But that's why it's
Speaker 1: like completely subjective. It's like, if that's what Isaiah Thomas says,
Speaker 1: whether he's trolling Jordan or not, that's what he says
Speaker 1: because that's his opinion, that's the game that he played
Speaker 1: in the life he lived. But when you hear Michael Jordan,
Speaker 1: he can't. He has to be even there's four history
Speaker 1: four really, but if your game plan was to beat
Speaker 1: up Michael Jordan, I mean they weren't. Their game plan
Speaker 1: wasn't beating up Kareem you know Bird. They probably were
Speaker 1: trying to rough up as well, but their game plan
Speaker 1: was to beat up Michael Jordan. So I have to
Speaker 1: start with that of just pure toughness. When a book
Speaker 1: was written about the Jordan Rules, about how the Pistons
Speaker 1: approached Michael Jordan, look, you want to put bird up there. Uh,
Speaker 1: they weren't trying to beat up doctor Jay. And actually
Speaker 1: that's when Isaiah Thomas and the Pistons were beating up
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's so much that remember when then he invented
Speaker 1: weightlifting and he brought weightlifting NBAY. No one had ever
Speaker 1: lifted weights before until Jordan was like, wait, these guys
Speaker 1: are gonna beat us up. I'm gonna start lifting these
Speaker 1: things invented that. Jordan invented that for the world, not
Speaker 1: just the NBA, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, brought it, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: to the world. Yes, yes, pub But if you're waiting
Speaker 1: for Isaiah Thomas to say what you want normal people
Speaker 1: to say. Don't hold your breath. He's been doing this
Speaker 1: for forty years. He loves making people uncomfortable. He likes
Speaker 1: being difficult. He enjoys it. It's completely calculated by Isaiah
Speaker 1: and he will never go the other way. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I've always been a big fan of his on the court.
Speaker 1: But he can make people uncomfortable. But sometimes you hurt
Speaker 1: your credibility, like Paul Pierce hurts his credibility as an
Speaker 1: analyst because he says things that I don't think he
Speaker 1: really believes. When he talks about Lebron James. He just
Speaker 1: doesn't like Lebron James. But you know, he kind of
Speaker 1: cuts his legs out from underneath him as an analyst,
Speaker 1: because if you start to say these things about Lebron,
Speaker 1: it sounds silly and it sounds so petty. Instead of saying, hey,
Speaker 1: let me give you an honest opinion here. And maybe
Speaker 1: Isaiah feels that way, and he has every right to
Speaker 1: feel that way. I just don't think you could say
Speaker 1: that without at least acknowledging. We tried to beat the
Speaker 1: hell out of Michael Jordan and he didn't say, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what we did against Bird. We tried to
Speaker 1: beat the hell out of him, or Kareem or doctor Jay.
Speaker 1: Jordan's game plan was they were going to beat the
Speaker 1: hell out of him. They played fifty nine games head
Speaker 1: to head all time, including the postseason. The Pistons won
Speaker 1: thirty three times. The Bulls won twenty six. But given
Speaker 1: what the Pistons were when Michael was with the Bulls
Speaker 1: and they weren't very good those first six years, they
Speaker 1: got a pretty good head start. It didn't last, but
Speaker 1: they did go out of their way to rough him up,
Speaker 1: which they wrote a book about it. Not tough. I
Speaker 1: don't need to stick up for Jordan. I just you know,
Speaker 1: Isaiah always gives you that smile like he'll say something.
Speaker 1: He'll go, here's my five. Then he'll go and then
Speaker 1: you'll wait, wait what what? Kareem tough? Okay? Oh, I
Speaker 1: don't know if everybody's anybody cited his toughness, Doctor j
Speaker 1: is toughness. I would go, how about his athleticism? Kareem's
Speaker 1: the greatest score of all time? Bird? All right, you
Speaker 1: tried to beat him up a little bit. There multiple
Speaker 1: guys guarding him. Jordan. We went out and tried to
Speaker 1: you know, knock him down every single time we played him.
Speaker 1: That probably would constitute at least being in the top
Speaker 1: two tough. I don't know. Yeah, Polly, I'm looking forward
Speaker 1: to how long this beef goes on. Is there gonna
Speaker 1: be like the NBA forever forever? It really will, because
Speaker 1: the NBA is gonna have their hundredth anniversary team at
Speaker 1: the Staples Center, and everybody Michael Jordan a little gut
Speaker 1: walking out there with a gray beard, and here comes
Speaker 1: Isaiah and they put him right next to each other,
Speaker 1: and they refuse to stand next to each other for
Speaker 1: the ceremony, and then then send someone slaps the floor
Speaker 1: and they'll be out there, but they're walkers. I don't
Speaker 1: think you're overrated. This beef brought you by jaredon. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have you on the Dream Team. That's good stuff.
Speaker 1: You froze me out. Yeah, that's good. Good. I miss this.
Speaker 1: I mean we took it for granted. I don't like
Speaker 1: when people get along in sports, like when there's a
Speaker 1: little friction in there where it really means something. Yeah, Seed, Plus,
Speaker 1: it's just nice to be able to talk about Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan again. It's been about three weeks since we obsessed
Speaker 1: over some random comment about Michael Jordan. I think it's
Speaker 1: all the way back to April Seaton with the documentary.
Speaker 1: Are you kiddingy? We just did the whole NBA Finals
Speaker 1: Lebron legacy versus Jordan. F Jordan was in there somewhere,
Speaker 1: wasn't he? And today's Paul is Kyler, Murray Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan. Who would you want to talk about? Tougher
Speaker 1: to bring that Jordan had been a quarterback? Good? Good, Paul?
Speaker 1: If Jordan had been a quarterback, which quarterback would he be? Yes,
Speaker 1: we love it. You're radio silent on, Yeah, I had
Speaker 1: too much Jordan Lebron in Okay, I can't do it.
Speaker 1: I like how Brett Farve got into the conversation yesterday
Speaker 1: where basically said that the Eagles and Doug Peterson should
Speaker 1: have stayed with Nick Foles, and then the Eagles have
Speaker 1: to respond because it's Brett Farve saying this, and then
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz has to respond. You know, I do. If
Speaker 1: I was Doug Peterson, I'd say I was a teammate
Speaker 1: of Brett Farves. I love Brett, but you know what
Speaker 1: what he has to say doesn't matter to me. And
Speaker 1: by the way, Brett was replaced too, So Brett can
Speaker 1: say whatever he wants. He's a Hall of Famer, but
Speaker 1: when it comes to my team and my quarterback, this
Speaker 1: is who I'm going with. That's all. But now Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz had to say something. Doug Peterson had says, hey,
Speaker 1: what do you think of Brett Farr saying that you
Speaker 1: should have stayed with Nick Foles? Yes, for I think
Speaker 1: part of it also is it took a third question
Speaker 1: from the local media for him to finally say Carson's
Speaker 1: are starting quarterback, or maybe he could have answered that
Speaker 1: the first time. It doesn't show a lot of faith
Speaker 1: in the quarterback. He instead of saying, I respect Brett Farve,
Speaker 1: I was a quarterback. And then finally, after the third
Speaker 1: push he said what they were looking for him to
Speaker 1: say something about Carson Wentz being the starter going forward,
Speaker 1: So he should have led with that. Yeah, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have for quite a second. And then the third question
Speaker 1: he's getting annoyed and he's getting impatient, and the Philly
Speaker 1: media just right there on the first time I was
Speaker 1: asked Carston went starting quarterback. Bret's entitled to his opinion.
Speaker 1: Let me see if we can get that that's sound. Yes,
Speaker 1: I can't. Every time I see a five quote, I
Speaker 1: hear Seaton's voice doing far Of. I can't like imagine
Speaker 1: far Of himself saying it. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: guys are like that. It's just hard for me to
Speaker 1: take five quote seriously. I don't know why. I don't
Speaker 1: know how much film he's breaking down, or what he's
Speaker 1: assessing this on, or you know, everything that's included with
Speaker 1: the injuries, an offensive line and all of those things.
Speaker 1: When did Parson Wentz fall off the cliff? Like we
Speaker 1: got to the point where we said, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's a franchise quarterback. As soon
Speaker 1: as the minute Nick Foles won a super Bowl for
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz's team. Yeah, when you handed pretty much when
Speaker 1: it was over, when you handed Nick Foles MVP trophy,
Speaker 1: that really dinged his image. He's on the sidelines, so
Speaker 1: it doesn't help your legacy touch. So I was I
Speaker 1: kind of ushered this in when I said, and Nick,
Speaker 1: you're a super Bowl champion. And then meanwhile you got
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz off to the corner there he had a
Speaker 1: front row seat for it. Yeah, transition, yep, and there
Speaker 1: it was right right in front of me. Past. Yeah,
Speaker 1: here it is past past the Lamardi Trophy. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: MC club. But doesn't he always do like something in
Speaker 1: a game where like, oh, Carson's back just for a minute,
Speaker 1: and then like eight plays later he's heart. Has he
Speaker 1: fallen off a cliff or is he kind of slowly
Speaker 1: rolling down? Feels like he's getting pushed off a cliff
Speaker 1: by all these analysts. I watch him, I think that
Speaker 1: he in his mind or subconscious, he's always thinking about
Speaker 1: that knee. Once you have one surgery, then you never
Speaker 1: stop thinking about it, especially in a position like that.
Speaker 1: And it just feels like he's not comfortable. Yeah, mclub.
Speaker 1: He'll p probably win the division this year. That doesn't
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean much. Man, he won the division. He
Speaker 1: was six nine and one. Man. You prove them wrong.
Speaker 1: All right, We'll take a break. Where are we headed
Speaker 1: with all these positive tests, these cancelations, a couple of postponements.
Speaker 1: Are we going to be able to get all of
Speaker 1: this in? What if Ohio State has another game that
Speaker 1: they can't play and it has nothing to do with
Speaker 1: Ohio State. They're not gonna be playing in the Big
Speaker 1: Ten title game. Could Ohio States still get into the
Speaker 1: final four the college playoffs with five five games? Six games?
Speaker 1: Could they? And can we see a team that maybe
Speaker 1: like BYU or tex As Sam trying to get into
Speaker 1: the final four, trying to schedule one another or other
Speaker 1: games so you can fill up your resume the best
Speaker 1: you can. We'll take a break twenty one after the
Speaker 1: hour and we'll talk to Ohio State's head coach Ryan Day.
Speaker 1: He'll join us coming up in an hour from now.
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Speaker 1: can bring back those questions that were posed to Doug
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Speaker 1: lot of cancelations, a couple of postponements here. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure where we're headed, but here to help us with
Speaker 1: our compass is Ross Dellinger. He's Sports Illustrated senior writer
Speaker 1: covering college football. How did we get to this point? Ross?
Speaker 1: That we have four games in the SEC that are
Speaker 1: postponed this weekend. They Ross. Hey, sorry, guys, my internet
Speaker 1: connections a little lost this morning. You were giving great
Speaker 1: to my question. No, you're going in and out a
Speaker 1: little bit only, but I think I caught a most
Speaker 1: of that. Um uh yeah, how do we get to
Speaker 1: this point. Right, Um, it's been it's been a long
Speaker 1: few weeks and months and um it's uh, it's been
Speaker 1: a roller coaster, right, and in college sports in general,
Speaker 1: and everybody's kind of doing their own thing or we're
Speaker 1: doing their own thing over the summer, and then we
Speaker 1: kind of all came together lately to play and now
Speaker 1: we're experiencing, you know, a second and third wave of
Speaker 1: the virus, and the SEC specifically is having h one
Speaker 1: of those bad weeks that that that we expected. But
Speaker 1: we're talking about contract tracing and this is this isn't
Speaker 1: about COVID as much positive chests as it is just
Speaker 1: the contact tracing. Is that correct with the SEC? That's correct? Yeah,
Speaker 1: In in most cases it's been about contact tracing at
Speaker 1: other schools and other conferences as well. It's it's the
Speaker 1: biggest turtle dan in completing a season in physicians new
Speaker 1: over the summer, it would be it's not the positive cases,
Speaker 1: but it's those higher risk contacts or those deemed to
Speaker 1: be higher risk contacts, which all conferences are going by
Speaker 1: the CDC guidelines, which is a person within six feet
Speaker 1: for fifteen minutes is a high risk contact. So you
Speaker 1: can imagine if you have one positive in a football building,
Speaker 1: you could have five, ten, fifteen high risk contacts. And
Speaker 1: that's what we're seeing. We've got there's roughly ten positives
Speaker 1: of seven of the eight teams involved in a postponement.
Speaker 1: In the SEC, there's roughly a combined ten positives. Nobody
Speaker 1: has more than four, I don't think. But it's the
Speaker 1: high risk contacts around them that have been quarantined for
Speaker 1: two weeks. And it's a big hurdle right now in
Speaker 1: college sports is how to deal with this contact tracing. Piece.
Speaker 1: Of course, we know the NFL you can test out
Speaker 1: of quarantine after five days. Can't do that in college.
Speaker 1: I've got Ryan Day, Ohio State's head coach, on next hour.
Speaker 1: Could you see a scenario where Ohio State doesn't qualify
Speaker 1: to play for the Big Ten title game, but qualifiers
Speaker 1: to play for the college football playoffs? Well, you know,
Speaker 1: I guess, so, yeah, conceivably you could. I think they
Speaker 1: lost the games, so they can't lose. I think it's
Speaker 1: two more, right, you have to play at least six,
Speaker 1: so I guess Ohio State could be five and oh
Speaker 1: I think I won't play in the in the Big
Speaker 1: Ten title. But the CFP because you had that human element.
Speaker 1: These are people making this as no BCS formula that
Speaker 1: knowing it's Ohio State, knowing what they've done in the past,
Speaker 1: seeing them through five games. Yeah, I guess I never
Speaker 1: didn't really think about that, but I guess that's possible.
Speaker 1: But also trying to come up with the rationelle for
Speaker 1: the College Football Playoff Committee. If I'm BYU or I'm
Speaker 1: A and M and I'm on the outside looking in,
Speaker 1: could I schedule a game? Could we is there awake?
Speaker 1: I can add to my resume so I can be
Speaker 1: a little bit brighter shinier to the playoff committee. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you could. And we've we've seen that, right, It's been
Speaker 1: maybe earlier in the season we've seen that, but we've
Speaker 1: seen game scheduled a week out or two weeks out
Speaker 1: while games are being played, games are being scheduled. We
Speaker 1: haven't seen that, I guess in the last few weeks,
Speaker 1: but we did see it earlier in the year. I
Speaker 1: know there was some talk that, you know, could we
Speaker 1: get a BYU Liberty game or something like that, two
Speaker 1: undefeated group of five undefeated teams? Yeah, I mean by
Speaker 1: you could scramble in play a game I think they have.
Speaker 1: I looked at their schedule recently. I think they had
Speaker 1: still two off weeks left, so conceivably they could schedule someone.
Speaker 1: The problem is is would it be someone worthwhile? They're
Speaker 1: not probably going to get a power five in there,
Speaker 1: so it had to be a like a you know,
Speaker 1: an undefeated group of five, like a Liberty or Cincinnati
Speaker 1: Sati for that Yeah, for that matter, did the Big
Speaker 1: Ten make a mistake earlier if a game got canceled
Speaker 1: that you should be able to go out and schedule.
Speaker 1: And the reason why I bring this up, Nebraska was
Speaker 1: trying to do this a couple of weeks ago. I'd
Speaker 1: a source say that Ohio State in Michigan, we're on
Speaker 1: Nebraska's side because they realized they could be put in
Speaker 1: this situation. And here you have Ohio States game against
Speaker 1: Maryland canceled. I think this season Dan is about flexibility.
Speaker 1: And we were all with the SEC commissioner yesterday and
Speaker 1: he has a sign he said in his office, and
Speaker 1: be flexible this year in twenty twenty, it's you have
Speaker 1: to be flexible. And the Big Ten has proven not
Speaker 1: to be flexible. Right they have They're trying to play
Speaker 1: nine games in nine weeks. That is obviously offers no flexibility.
Speaker 1: They would not allowed teams to as you mentioned, like Nebraska,
Speaker 1: you know, grab another game. No flexibility there. So you're
Speaker 1: you're seeing that they're they're doing the opposite of some
Speaker 1: other conferences. The Big Twelve, the ACC, you've seen them
Speaker 1: be very flexible. The SEC to an extent not maybe
Speaker 1: not as flexible. They had that one COVID kind of
Speaker 1: bye week in they're playing a conference only, so they
Speaker 1: haven't allowed that either. But you've seen a lot of
Speaker 1: conferences be flexible, and that's kind of the theme of
Speaker 1: this year. So I do think the Big Ten and
Speaker 1: even to an extent, the SEC should be more flexible
Speaker 1: or should have been more flexible, specifically with working in
Speaker 1: off weeks, more off weeks into their schedules. Why no
Speaker 1: talk of an eighteen playoff this year given what we
Speaker 1: need is flexibility. Yeah, yeah, that that was asked to
Speaker 1: the commission SEC a commissioner yesterday. He brought up a
Speaker 1: good point. You know, you add more games, they're tougher
Speaker 1: to complete. We're just trying to get through the games
Speaker 1: that are currently scheduled. So if you expand the playoff,
Speaker 1: it makes it more difficult, he said, to complete the playoff,
Speaker 1: and I think he's got a point. Um. Look, we're
Speaker 1: on the path, and we've been on the path to
Speaker 1: expanding the playoff. You know, after the contratract runs out.
Speaker 1: I have no doubt the playoff is going to be expanded.
Speaker 1: I really do. I mean, we knew Dan when when
Speaker 1: they announced the playoff it was four teams and there
Speaker 1: are five Power five conferences. We knew that was going
Speaker 1: to be an issue. But ross nobody said, hey, let's
Speaker 1: just make it like the BCS. It's one versus two.
Speaker 1: I mean, if if we want to have the total
Speaker 1: safety precautions, just have one versus two. Yeah. I mean
Speaker 1: you're trying like this year. Yeah sure. I mean if
Speaker 1: we're worried about safety protocol, safety first, Yeah, that's that's true.
Speaker 1: I mean flexibility, right, yeah, I mean just tweak it.
Speaker 1: Of course. You know, we have to always think about
Speaker 1: the money, right, Oh yeah, that's what I was thinking about.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about the money with eighteen playoff. That's
Speaker 1: why I was mentioning that before I let you go.
Speaker 1: The PAC twelve is irre, how long does this? How
Speaker 1: long does this stay? With the PAC twelve? Not only
Speaker 1: this year, but in subsequent seasons. Oh, I think I
Speaker 1: lost you, Ross, I think I lost a damn My
Speaker 1: internet conection went out again on me. All Right, well
Speaker 1: thank you Ross. Well you won't be able to hear
Speaker 1: me say thank you, Ross, but I'll still say thank you.
Speaker 1: Ross Dellinger, Sports Illustrated senior writer covering college football. Or
Speaker 1: was he trying to be nice to the PAC twelve
Speaker 1: and I can't talk, Pa, They're gonna be hear you?
Speaker 1: Feels fitting to go out on the PAC twelve. Ye.
Speaker 1: I can't even get a question in about the PAC twelve.
Speaker 1: A couple of phone calls in here, and then I
Speaker 1: want to talk about this situation with the Houston Rockets.
Speaker 1: Ray in Texas? Hi, Ray, what's on your mind today? Hey?
Speaker 1: Bun second on Taller, Not that it matters, So one
Speaker 1: quick question. You always have these amazing broadcasting stories and
Speaker 1: I love listening to them. So I was worrying if
Speaker 1: you ever considered writing a book. I think you would
Speaker 1: be a fantastic writer. You're a fantastic storyteller. So yeah,
Speaker 1: have you ever considered it? I have, and I've been approached, Ray,
Speaker 1: but I don't want to do it. But thank you.
Speaker 1: I was approached by two people, two writers last year
Speaker 1: and said, you know, are you interested? And I said no,
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. It just feels like you'll
Speaker 1: leave something out or you're you're gonna upset somebody, and
Speaker 1: I just at this stage, I tell the stories. I
Speaker 1: don't know if there's any news stories that I'm able
Speaker 1: to tell, and I don't want to get into you know,
Speaker 1: selacious stuff or you know slinging, you know, criticisms or
Speaker 1: whatever it might be. And I just don't want to
Speaker 1: do that. And I could easily do that because I'm
Speaker 1: very competitive, and you know, I would want it to
Speaker 1: be great. I want to win, But no, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Yeah, yeah, would you be worried
Speaker 1: about hurting people's feelings even by leaving them out or something. Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 1: It just feels like when you write a book, then
Speaker 1: you open yourself up and then you know, the people
Speaker 1: take aim and I just you can say something whatever
Speaker 1: you want about when we're on the show. But I
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm not I did want to do an
Speaker 1: interview book. This is years ago, this is probably seven
Speaker 1: years ago that I approached a publisher and I said,
Speaker 1: I'd like to do an interview book where I'd say,
Speaker 1: Mike Schevski's on and you print out the interview. He
Speaker 1: critiques the interview, and then I respond to his critiques
Speaker 1: of you know, what he liked or not a fair question,
Speaker 1: or that was interesting or I didn't know. So if
Speaker 1: I got let's say, of my favorite interviews. And then
Speaker 1: I was going to get John Swatsky, who is the
Speaker 1: person who taught me how to interview. I read about
Speaker 1: him in a magazine and he was from Canada, and
Speaker 1: I said to my boss at Sports Center, I said,
Speaker 1: we got to bring this guy in. And John Swatsky
Speaker 1: came in and gave a five day, eight hour a
Speaker 1: day seminar on interviewing. And I wanted to get John
Speaker 1: to then critique my interviews and the questions I asked
Speaker 1: and how I asked them. And I thought that that
Speaker 1: might be a nice tutorial for people to understand that
Speaker 1: you can ask the right question, you follow up with
Speaker 1: the right question, or because you asked the right question,
Speaker 1: you get a great answer, as opposed to I leave
Speaker 1: you with yes or no as your response. And that
Speaker 1: was the only thing that really excited me. And then
Speaker 1: Howard Stern came out with one the last year, and
Speaker 1: he kind of published his interviews, but I wanted it
Speaker 1: to be almost a master class in interviewing or understanding
Speaker 1: the art of interviewing. And I still struggle with this
Speaker 1: every single day. How to phrase a question a short question,
Speaker 1: don't ask answer and ask a question? And I thought
Speaker 1: that that might be interesting, that I would give the
Speaker 1: subject their opportunity to critique my work, and in turn
Speaker 1: I could respond to what I was thinking at the
Speaker 1: time or why I went there, and almost put you
Speaker 1: in my mind of how I get ready to do
Speaker 1: an interview, or in the process of the interview, how
Speaker 1: do you react? You get something where you go Wait,
Speaker 1: did he just say? I go back to what Pete
Speaker 1: Rose said when he said that he bet on his team,
Speaker 1: that he only bet on his team. And I remember
Speaker 1: at the time thinking, did Pete just say that he
Speaker 1: only bet on the Reds? And that was his Rationelle?
Speaker 1: And he said, I bet them to win every night,
Speaker 1: I bet the Reds to win. Now, if you're a gambler,
Speaker 1: that makes no sense. But Pete said that, And then
Speaker 1: you realize you've got some gold there. Now, what do
Speaker 1: you do with that? And you want to open up
Speaker 1: that treasure chest. It's when you get those moments where
Speaker 1: you hope you get you're not sure you got it,
Speaker 1: but you've got to be a great listener. Those were
Speaker 1: things that I wanted to put in a book, but
Speaker 1: other than that, my life history or my top ten
Speaker 1: list or who I like or don't like, and I
Speaker 1: had no interest in that. Let me take a break.
Speaker 1: A couple more phone calls coming up, and the situation
Speaker 1: with the Houston Rockets looks pretty grim. I don't know
Speaker 1: who wants to stay in Houston right now to play
Speaker 1: for the Rockets. Back after this and The Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be
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Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at
Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. As
Speaker 1: a report in the New York Daily News, Stephen Bondi
Speaker 1: saying that Tampa emerging as the front runner for the Raptors.
Speaker 1: If they can't stay in Toronto for this upcoming season,
Speaker 1: it would be Newark, Nashville or Tampa. And then he
Speaker 1: goes on to say, Florida taxes always beat New Jersey taxes.
Speaker 1: The Raptors, like the Blue Jays, might have to relocate
Speaker 1: somewhere in the United States. Be good for Tampa. I
Speaker 1: had heard Nashville from the beginning, but you know, Newark
Speaker 1: or Tampa, I guess on the possibility list there, Jesse
Speaker 1: and Los Angeles. Hey, Jess, what's on your mind? Hey? Hey,
Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call today. That was an amazing
Speaker 1: interview with Emmanuel Acho. Very insightful and just what a
Speaker 1: rising contact guy is. Yeah, he's only thirty years of age.
Speaker 1: Very sure. I'm thirty three and I'm like, what am
Speaker 1: I doing my life? That guy's great. Hey. In reference
Speaker 1: to his book title Awkward Conversation with a Black Man,
Speaker 1: you know, it's no secret that my favorite dound clip
Speaker 1: is the celebrity journalist Slow Anthony clip. But a close
Speaker 1: second is of today's famous or sorry infamous birthday girl,
Speaker 1: which is Tanya Hardy, who turns tippy today. And as
Speaker 1: I recall, you had a pretty awkward conversation with her
Speaker 1: and her bodyguard Paul. So any reason I bring that up,
Speaker 1: I'll take it. Thank you. Jesse. Yeah, I think that
Speaker 1: was two thousand and three, two thousand and four, but
Speaker 1: I don't know if I remember it that well. But
Speaker 1: she was doing some promotion that she was going to
Speaker 1: be at a hockey game and she was going to
Speaker 1: do I think in between periods, like there was a
Speaker 1: boxing match or something. And we had her on and
Speaker 1: I'd never interviewed her before, and we started going down
Speaker 1: the road and she uh, she put her by guess
Speaker 1: agent or producer on and it was yeah, and I
Speaker 1: said yeah, and they should hold on. Paul wants to
Speaker 1: talk to you, and I'm not gonna make a skeptical
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make a skeptical yeah. Hey yeah. Then
Speaker 1: Paul came on, Oh, Sconda want to talk to you.
Speaker 1: Cool brother, Yeah, Paul, we're doing a radio interview. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: it's called a radio interview. Or keep it a positive,
Speaker 1: keep your positive. That was a good let's say. He
Speaker 1: goes like, Paul Brown here go like, I don't give
Speaker 1: it am who you are? If you Paul Brown, I've
Speaker 1: been waiting. You know. I want to talk to you, Paul,
Speaker 1: more than I do Tanya Harding. A couple of things
Speaker 1: that stood up that, Uh, Paul goes, what are we
Speaker 1: doing here? And you said, I'm doing an interview on
Speaker 1: a national radio show. Paul, We're doing a radio interview.
Speaker 1: And then about forty five seconds before that, you brought
Speaker 1: up religion. And that's where Tanya and why if you've repented,
Speaker 1: why would you not want to talk about this, and
Speaker 1: why would someone do something like this? And she goes,
Speaker 1: you really want to go there? You know, well I
Speaker 1: kind of would. I said, yes, I do. I can
Speaker 1: tell me about your religion and you're born again, and uh,
Speaker 1: all right, well we kind of have to confess to
Speaker 1: your sins and repent and let's talk about what happened
Speaker 1: with Nancy Kerrigan. You really want to go there? Yes,
Speaker 1: that's why I'm asking the question. Haven't had her back? Nah?
Speaker 1: Haven't had I think we're good. I think i'd rather
Speaker 1: have Margot Robbion, who played Tanya Harding. Yeahtic might not
Speaker 1: be a fair pool question. Uh, it's all where the rockets.
Speaker 1: It's abandoned ship here. So Daryl Morey put this together.
Speaker 1: He's gone, he's now in Philadelphia. Russell Westbrook Junior the
Speaker 1: third ones out. I got Eric Gordon, who's upset. P J. Tucker,
Speaker 1: who's upset because James Harden one out. Yeah, mclu sending
Speaker 1: to Philly. I mean, Harden, the more you hear about
Speaker 1: the Rockets being dissatisfied, it's just okay, how are they dissatisfied?
Speaker 1: Because Russ wanted out of Oklahoma City to play with
Speaker 1: James Harden. Harden wanted Russell Westbrook. There I got Eric Gordon,
Speaker 1: who nobody cares about, like he wants to Hey, I
Speaker 1: want more touches. Who's the unknucklehead that got sent home house? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Remember he was getting to know one of the cleaning women. Yep.
Speaker 1: And then he's upset with his role with the Rockets
Speaker 1: house arrest. He's he's lucky to have a role with
Speaker 1: the Rockets, Like, who do they think they are? You're
Speaker 1: the Rockets. Get a clue. So if you're the Rockets,
Speaker 1: get rid of these guys. You got to start over, right.
Speaker 1: I mean this this core is not gonny. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you can. I don't know what you're getting
Speaker 1: for Russell Westbrook And where are you sending him? What
Speaker 1: are you getting in return? But but Harden is what
Speaker 1: this is what Harden wanted. Russell Westbrook wanted this signa
Speaker 1: you know PJ. Tucker is a nice player. Nobody cares
Speaker 1: about PJ Tucker, Eric Gordon. They're complaining about their usage.
Speaker 1: You're on a team with two of the biggest ball
Speaker 1: hogs in NBA history, Like you are you surprised about
Speaker 1: your touches? You know, Paul, I could see Lebron and
Speaker 1: Frank Vogel the Laker just sitting there watching all this disarray.
Speaker 1: Hopefully like it bleeds over to the Clippers more disarray
Speaker 1: and may. I don't know if the Clippers want Russell Westbrook.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a nice player, but he's just a
Speaker 1: nice player. Now. I could see him going to the
Speaker 1: Bulls playing for Billy Donovan. But I'm sure the Knicks
Speaker 1: are going to get in and think, wow, we got
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook. Were relevant, You're not. Now you got a
Speaker 1: player that we might know when we tune in, But
Speaker 1: that doesn't make it relevant. Detroit's a name that came up.
Speaker 1: Memphis is a name that came up for us. I
Speaker 1: don't know about Hardened. Harden wants to be there. Who
Speaker 1: wants Hardened? He's he's you know. They're a fascinating regular
Speaker 1: season team. They are one of my favorite regular season
Speaker 1: teams to watch in the postseason, they're not a good team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: could say Harden did go to Philly or like is
Speaker 1: can he is there a fit where he could win
Speaker 1: a title like um other than the Lakers or the Warriors?
Speaker 1: I mean, is there a team that he can be
Speaker 1: that piece or does he have to hog the ball
Speaker 1: so much at Eton? I don't I don't know if
Speaker 1: he can change. I don't know if he'll he'll change.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine him in three years from now where
Speaker 1: he's like the third option? I could never imagine that
Speaker 1: for James Harden. Yeah, remember Carmelo. Carmelo was basically a ballhog,
Speaker 1: like he had to. If it went to him, it
Speaker 1: stayed with him. And then he realized, Hey, if I'm
Speaker 1: going to salvage a second career here, I gotta be
Speaker 1: a role player. I gotta be the third option there.
Speaker 1: And because of that, he revitalized his career. But it
Speaker 1: feels like everybody wants out of Houston. That's a fun
Speaker 1: While I lasted. Head coach of the Ohio State Buckeyes,
Speaker 1: Ryan Day will join us. More phone calls coming up
Speaker 1: as well, the Masters, WHOA, it's nice and bright and
Speaker 1: shiny there. Final hour coming up