WEBVTT - 11/12/20 HOUR 2- Ross Dellenger 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:03.520 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:07.040 Sports Radio. This is our two on this Thursday, Dan 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:09.520 and the Dan n Stan Patrick Show. We got some 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:13.440 more cancelations with college football. We'll dive into that topic 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:16.080 coming up here in a little bit. Phone calls are 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:18.919 always welcome eight seven seven three, DP Show email address, 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:21.439 DP oft, Dan Patrick dot com, Twitter handle a DP show. 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:24.160 We have a little bit of sunshine in Augusta. 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Thank you for all 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:30.680 of you who have gone and downloaded the Peacock app 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:33.680 and watch the show for free all three hours and 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:37.199 Fox Sports Radio lineup all of our great affiliates around 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:40.440 the world, numbering almost three hundred and seventy gangs all 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:43.600 here ready to go. Mclovin pull question. Did we change 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:45.959 it up for hour two? Yeah? The first hour was 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:49.160 whose future would you want? Patriots or Jets? Over eighty 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:52.360 percent one Patriots. Let's go, which quarterback would you want 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:55.600 to build around? Lamar Jackson or Kyler Murray. A lot 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:57.920 of people are diving into this topic. It's all over 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:00.400 Twitter today even before this. I'm not sure. I think 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:04.440 Lamar Jackson's quote yesterday sort of said to people, Oh, 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:07.720 the Ravens aren't going the right direction, but they're still 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:11.480 winning a lot of games. Yeah, they're still good. But 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:15.200 I think we're looking at the individual play. You're also 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:18.519 factoring the postseason with what happened to Lamar Jackson last year. 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:23.880 But imagine you were the unanimous MVP the previous year 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:28.200 and people are already looking for somebody else as we 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:31.840 move forward here, or they're willing to invest in Kyler 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:35.480 Murray more than Lamar Jackson. We've seen enough of both 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:37.720 where you've got this figured out of what they're going 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.400 to be like for the next five years. And I 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:42.320 do love that time frame. If I give you any 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:45.200 quarterback for the next five years, what quarterback are you taking? 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:53.240 Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes seems obvious. If I take Mahomes 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:58.959 out of the equation, justin Herbert next five years, who 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:02.880 do you have? Kyler Murray's right there because he's doing 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:04.920 it with it. He's gonna maybe rush for a thousand 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:07.400 and throw for over three thousand that's never happened before, 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:10.360 maybe get his team into the playoffs. Yeah, mclement, Trevor 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:13.600 Lawrence with the callat you get to build for four 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:15.720 years with the salary cap, so that's part of it too. 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.680 Kyler's still cheap, Lamar still hasn't gotten paid. But it 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:21.680 makes me nervous, though Joe Burrow with the Bengals makes 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:24.960 me nervous with Trevor Lawrence with the Jets. It's not 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:28.280 just the quarterback, it's who's with you. And you know, 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:30.839 Cliff Kingsbury may not have been a great head coach 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:33.440 in college, but he is a great offensive minded head 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:38.680 coach in the NFL. And that partnership with Kyler Murray 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:42.320 is really paying off. It feels like that he knew 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:47.040 who he wanted, he created the offense specifically for him, 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:49.960 the same thing that Carolina did with Cam Newton. And 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:53.680 more coaches and more offensive coordinators are doing this, what 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:56.280 kind of offense can we run to make you better? 0:03:56.520 --> 0:04:00.000 It used to be you'd bring in somebody and say, okay, 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.760 this is our offense. And I think we've done a 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:06.000 disservice to some quarterbacks down through the years where you 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:09.400 should have been throwing more or allowing a quarterback to 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:13.120 run more. And we were kind of stuck in the 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:17.560 you know, the dark ages with our offenses. And then 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:20.039 all of a sudden, we started to see more teams, 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:24.320 more coaches, more offensive coordinators buy into what college is doing. 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:28.480 College doesn't borrow from the NFL it's the other way around, right, 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:31.160 So we have our poll question. McLevin. Yeah, I'll just 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:33.640 make a quick argument for the Ravens, Okay. I think 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:36.240 the Ravens would be heavily favored against the Cardinals head 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:39.599 to head, and because they play a conservative style. Lamar 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.599 isn't it doesn't have a spread out field like but 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:45.560 this isn't about the team. This is about the quarterback, right. 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:47.680 I think if you put Lamar in Arizona, he would 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:50.440 put up. We'd have better numbers this year. I think 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:55.240 like Kyler's benefiting from everything going on there in Arizona. Well, 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:57.240 if you said you want Kyla Murray and I'd take 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:00.160 Lamar Jackson, I'm fine with that. Yeah, I got think 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:02.440 gets one in one A. There's not a big drop 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:05.760 off there. And Kyler would be really good in Baltimore too. Probably. Yes, 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:08.400 Kyler Murray is going to be good no matter where 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:12.039 he is because he has the ability. He can be 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:15.840 Russell Wilson, but more electric. He can make you pay 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:19.120 more because his legs. He's one of the faster players 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:22.280 in the game. Russ keeps a play alive. He's very smart, 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:26.719 he slides Kyler Kyler can beat you with a forty 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:30.080 yard run. Russ doesn't do that. Yeah, boy, you're right. 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:32.840 But Kyler Murray, he's a genius about not getting hit. 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:36.000 He takes the angles, he'll slide way early, like he 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:38.839 could have a fifty yard run unil like twenty Five's fine. 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:41.359 He out of bounds. It's really genius by him to 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:44.880 stay up right. Well, I think I don't want to 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:47.360 give him too much credit for avoiding getting hit by 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:50.279 somebody who weighs one hundred pounds more than him. It's 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:52.400 there are a lot of these quarterbacks who get caught 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:55.039 up in I gotta get the extra yard. I gotta 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:58.880 show how tough I am. And remember when Jim Brown, 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:02.400 the Great Jim Brown criticized Franco Harris. Franco Harris would 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:06.120 run out of bounds and we thought, you're no running back. 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:09.799 You gotta, you know, punish those defensive players. And Franco 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:14.159 was ahead of his time. Franco was like, um, I 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:17.080 don't know. Maybe I avoid a hit and I get 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:19.640 out of bounds. I might not get one more yard, 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:22.400 but I get out of bounds. Yes, you're making it 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:25.680 uncomfortable over here. Paully is stilling because you didn't mention 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:28.760 thirty four for the Bears. Yeah, but Walter Peaton didn't 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:33.960 go out of bounds. He still hasn't never ocase he 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:35.640 was pushed out of bounds and think there's a flag. 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:40.000 Isaiah Thomas has done it again. Thank you, Isaiah. He 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:46.159 was on Shay That's Shannon Sharp's podcast, and I don't 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:51.120 know what Isaiah's doing, but here is Shannon Sharp talking 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:54.799 to Isaiah Thomas about the five toughest players he faced 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:56.919 when he was playing. Who would you say, are the 0:06:57.040 --> 0:07:01.280 five toughest players that you've had to face again? You know, 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:04.520 and you can just go back to winning records, right, 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:10.800 you know, right, Magic, Kareem Bird, Doctor Jay. And then 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:15.920 I would say Jordan, Okay, you got my attention there, 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:21.480 and then um Shannon chrups follow following up about you know, 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.080 Jordans not being in is uh you know the top five, 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:27.040 you know just had to head. You know, I was 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:30.400 dominant over him when all teams met. You know, when 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:33.280 you go back and you look at until ninety one, 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:36.120 when I when I basically had career in the risk 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:41.240 surgery up until then, my record against against against him 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:45.000 and his team, it wasn't it really wasn't competition there. 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:50.200 He just wasn't my competition. Now, Bird didn't have anything 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:53.800 that you wanted. He didn't have the trophies. No, And 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:58.080 like I said, my focus was Bird Magic, Doctor Jay 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:02.920 Kareem Abdul Jabbar Oh's were the guys. And that's fair. 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:05.640 Like that part of it is fair because at the 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:08.080 time that's a young Jordan and a Bulls team that 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:11.040 wasn't very good and Isaiah was playing for a very 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:13.520 good team with the Bad Boys. I think that timeline, 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:16.800 I'm fine with that. But five toughest players he faced, 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:20.920 considering what the Bad Boys did to Michael Jordan, the 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:23.400 Jordan rules when he went up, when he went to 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:26.680 the hoop, you knocked him down, and you're not gonna 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:30.320 put him in one of the five toughest players you faced. 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:33.679 That to me, it feels like he's sort of trolling 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:36.839 Michael Jordan again. And of course you know, Michael doesn't 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:41.960 ment words, doesn't like Isaiah Thomas certainly doesn't like him now, 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:45.040 didn't like him when they were playing the whole dream 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:49.760 team situation. But let me hear it again, the five 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.839 toughest players Isaiah Thomas faced, who would you say are 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:56.800 the five toughest players that you've had to face again, 0:08:57.080 --> 0:09:00.560 you know, And you can just go about to winning records, right, 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:06.960 you know, Magic, Kareem Burd, Doctor Jay, and then I 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:11.080 would say Jordan, okay, but he puts him fifth. But 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:15.959 the toughest players you faced. If you're saying, hey, we 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:19.199 were always better than them, okay, he was better than 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:21.959 Jordan's bulls. It wasn't better than Jordan, but he was 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:24.640 better than Jordan's bulls. I don't know how you can 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:28.880 include Michael Jordan in there higher than that toughest player 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:32.480 ever faced and at least be fair to Jordan, say, look, 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:36.040 I don't like him. He didn't like me when we played. 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:38.080 He didn't like me. I didn't like him, and we 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:40.360 beat the hell out of him. But you know what, 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:43.760 I gotta give him credit. He got up and he 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:47.760 eventually ended up winning championships. And you could argue these 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:50.000 the greatest player of all time, like that's the answer 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:52.880 that should have happened. But I know they hate each 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:55.800 other and maybe you know he can't come clean with 0:09:55.880 --> 0:10:00.800 something like that, Seaton. Why is it so impossible for us, 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:05.800 I'll say, us to accept someone ranking another player ahead 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:08.640 of Michael Jordan in anything, like there's actually no even 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.320 metric for toughness. There's no way to actually measure it. 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:15.120 It's just it's totally buy it someone's opinion, right. You 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:18.000 can't like point to like look at points or titles 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:20.080 or anything like that. But just to have a few 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:23.280 players who are all great players over Michael Jordan is 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:25.800 like it's impossible. We can't accept it. There's no he 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:28.000 was the toughest player. You cannot tell me he wasn't. 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:31.440 Oh no, seems so crazy, Like, but I don't know 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:34.559 if he's the toughest that we had to face or 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:38.679 individually the toughest that we've faced, because there's a difference 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:41.199 in that, you know, Bird's teams were better, Doctor Jay's 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:44.120 teams were better, Kareem's teams were better. But as far 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:48.240 as toughness, tough to beat you or that we or 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.319 tough that we beat you up. But that's why it's 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:54.280 like completely subjective. It's like, if that's what Isaiah Thomas says, 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:56.160 whether he's trolling Jordan or not, that's what he says 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:58.640 because that's his opinion, that's the game that he played 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:01.200 in the life he lived. But when you hear Michael Jordan, 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:05.000 he can't. He has to be even there's four history 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:08.880 four really, but if your game plan was to beat 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:12.520 up Michael Jordan, I mean they weren't. Their game plan 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:17.120 wasn't beating up Kareem you know Bird. They probably were 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:20.559 trying to rough up as well, but their game plan 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:25.760 was to beat up Michael Jordan. So I have to 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:29.200 start with that of just pure toughness. When a book 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:32.840 was written about the Jordan Rules, about how the Pistons 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:37.640 approached Michael Jordan, look, you want to put bird up there. Uh, 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:40.800 they weren't trying to beat up doctor Jay. And actually 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:44.000 that's when Isaiah Thomas and the Pistons were beating up 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.320 Michael Jordan's so much that remember when then he invented 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:50.199 weightlifting and he brought weightlifting NBAY. No one had ever 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:52.760 lifted weights before until Jordan was like, wait, these guys 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:54.880 are gonna beat us up. I'm gonna start lifting these 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:58.560 things invented that. Jordan invented that for the world, not 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.120 just the NBA, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, brought it, yeah, yeah, 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:04.199 to the world. Yes, yes, pub But if you're waiting 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:07.240 for Isaiah Thomas to say what you want normal people 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:09.600 to say. Don't hold your breath. He's been doing this 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:13.280 for forty years. He loves making people uncomfortable. He likes 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:17.479 being difficult. He enjoys it. It's completely calculated by Isaiah 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:21.440 and he will never go the other way. Yeah, and 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:23.400 I've always been a big fan of his on the court. 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:27.280 But he can make people uncomfortable. But sometimes you hurt 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:30.440 your credibility, like Paul Pierce hurts his credibility as an 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:32.840 analyst because he says things that I don't think he 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:36.000 really believes. When he talks about Lebron James. He just 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:39.720 doesn't like Lebron James. But you know, he kind of 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:42.079 cuts his legs out from underneath him as an analyst, 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:45.520 because if you start to say these things about Lebron, 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:50.920 it sounds silly and it sounds so petty. Instead of saying, hey, 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:53.880 let me give you an honest opinion here. And maybe 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:56.120 Isaiah feels that way, and he has every right to 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:58.760 feel that way. I just don't think you could say 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:05.760 that without at least acknowledging. We tried to beat the 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:10.160 hell out of Michael Jordan and he didn't say, you know, hey, 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:12.160 you know what we did against Bird. We tried to 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:15.960 beat the hell out of him, or Kareem or doctor Jay. 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:21.040 Jordan's game plan was they were going to beat the 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:25.040 hell out of him. They played fifty nine games head 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:27.439 to head all time, including the postseason. The Pistons won 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:33.040 thirty three times. The Bulls won twenty six. But given 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:36.480 what the Pistons were when Michael was with the Bulls 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:40.280 and they weren't very good those first six years, they 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:44.400 got a pretty good head start. It didn't last, but 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:46.319 they did go out of their way to rough him up, 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:51.640 which they wrote a book about it. Not tough. I 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:54.080 don't need to stick up for Jordan. I just you know, 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:56.920 Isaiah always gives you that smile like he'll say something. 0:13:56.960 --> 0:14:00.960 He'll go, here's my five. Then he'll go and then 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:08.480 you'll wait, wait what what? Kareem tough? Okay? Oh, I 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:13.240 don't know if everybody's anybody cited his toughness, Doctor j 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:18.680 is toughness. I would go, how about his athleticism? Kareem's 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:22.200 the greatest score of all time? Bird? All right, you 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.640 tried to beat him up a little bit. There multiple 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:27.880 guys guarding him. Jordan. We went out and tried to 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:31.640 you know, knock him down every single time we played him. 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:34.760 That probably would constitute at least being in the top 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:39.560 two tough. I don't know. Yeah, Polly, I'm looking forward 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:41.680 to how long this beef goes on. Is there gonna 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:43.880 be like the NBA forever forever? It really will, because 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:46.320 the NBA is gonna have their hundredth anniversary team at 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:49.080 the Staples Center, and everybody Michael Jordan a little gut 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:51.560 walking out there with a gray beard, and here comes 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:54.040 Isaiah and they put him right next to each other, 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:55.880 and they refuse to stand next to each other for 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:58.960 the ceremony, and then then send someone slaps the floor 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:02.360 and they'll be out there, but they're walkers. I don't 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:05.560 think you're overrated. This beef brought you by jaredon. I 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:09.560 wouldn't have you on the Dream Team. That's good stuff. 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:14.360 You froze me out. Yeah, that's good. Good. I miss this. 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:18.840 I mean we took it for granted. I don't like 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:22.840 when people get along in sports, like when there's a 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:27.040 little friction in there where it really means something. Yeah, Seed, Plus, 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:28.720 it's just nice to be able to talk about Michael 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:32.440 Jordan again. It's been about three weeks since we obsessed 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:37.000 over some random comment about Michael Jordan. I think it's 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.520 all the way back to April Seaton with the documentary. 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:42.440 Are you kiddingy? We just did the whole NBA Finals 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:45.800 Lebron legacy versus Jordan. F Jordan was in there somewhere, 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:49.080 wasn't he? And today's Paul is Kyler, Murray Lamar Jackson, 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:51.280 Michael Jordan. Who would you want to talk about? Tougher 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:55.280 to bring that Jordan had been a quarterback? Good? Good, Paul? 0:15:55.680 --> 0:16:02.560 If Jordan had been a quarterback, which quarterback would he be? Yes, 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:08.760 we love it. You're radio silent on, Yeah, I had 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:11.520 too much Jordan Lebron in Okay, I can't do it. 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:16.040 I like how Brett Farve got into the conversation yesterday 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:19.600 where basically said that the Eagles and Doug Peterson should 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:23.040 have stayed with Nick Foles, and then the Eagles have 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:27.400 to respond because it's Brett Farve saying this, and then 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:30.520 Carson Wentz has to respond. You know, I do. If 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:33.400 I was Doug Peterson, I'd say I was a teammate 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:36.680 of Brett Farves. I love Brett, but you know what 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:41.600 what he has to say doesn't matter to me. And 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:46.400 by the way, Brett was replaced too, So Brett can 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:48.440 say whatever he wants. He's a Hall of Famer, but 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:51.320 when it comes to my team and my quarterback, this 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:56.160 is who I'm going with. That's all. But now Carson 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:58.880 Wentz had to say something. Doug Peterson had says, hey, 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:00.600 what do you think of Brett Farr saying that you 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.360 should have stayed with Nick Foles? Yes, for I think 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:05.200 part of it also is it took a third question 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:07.760 from the local media for him to finally say Carson's 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:09.960 are starting quarterback, or maybe he could have answered that 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:11.840 the first time. It doesn't show a lot of faith 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:14.240 in the quarterback. He instead of saying, I respect Brett Farve, 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:16.760 I was a quarterback. And then finally, after the third 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:18.720 push he said what they were looking for him to 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.359 say something about Carson Wentz being the starter going forward, 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:24.879 So he should have led with that. Yeah, I wouldn't 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:26.440 have for quite a second. And then the third question 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:30.240 he's getting annoyed and he's getting impatient, and the Philly 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:32.200 media just right there on the first time I was 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:35.160 asked Carston went starting quarterback. Bret's entitled to his opinion. 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:37.640 Let me see if we can get that that's sound. Yes, 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:40.080 I can't. Every time I see a five quote, I 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:43.000 hear Seaton's voice doing far Of. I can't like imagine 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:44.840 far Of himself saying it. I don't know if you 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:46.760 guys are like that. It's just hard for me to 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:50.440 take five quote seriously. I don't know why. I don't 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:52.400 know how much film he's breaking down, or what he's 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.720 assessing this on, or you know, everything that's included with 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:58.720 the injuries, an offensive line and all of those things. 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:03.600 When did Parson Wentz fall off the cliff? Like we 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:05.719 got to the point where we said, I don't know, 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:07.880 I don't know if he's a franchise quarterback. As soon 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:09.960 as the minute Nick Foles won a super Bowl for 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:12.680 Carson Wentz's team. Yeah, when you handed pretty much when 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:15.959 it was over, when you handed Nick Foles MVP trophy, 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:21.080 that really dinged his image. He's on the sidelines, so 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:24.520 it doesn't help your legacy touch. So I was I 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:26.720 kind of ushered this in when I said, and Nick, 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:29.640 you're a super Bowl champion. And then meanwhile you got 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:32.439 Carson Wentz off to the corner there he had a 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:35.000 front row seat for it. Yeah, transition, yep, and there 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:37.880 it was right right in front of me. Past. Yeah, 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:40.920 here it is past past the Lamardi Trophy. Yeah yeah, 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:43.439 MC club. But doesn't he always do like something in 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:46.200 a game where like, oh, Carson's back just for a minute, 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:48.760 and then like eight plays later he's heart. Has he 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:50.760 fallen off a cliff or is he kind of slowly 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:53.080 rolling down? Feels like he's getting pushed off a cliff 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:58.040 by all these analysts. I watch him, I think that 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:02.720 he in his mind or subconscious, he's always thinking about 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:07.160 that knee. Once you have one surgery, then you never 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:10.120 stop thinking about it, especially in a position like that. 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:15.840 And it just feels like he's not comfortable. Yeah, mclub. 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:19.280 He'll p probably win the division this year. That doesn't 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:22.679 that doesn't mean much. Man, he won the division. He 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:27.480 was six nine and one. Man. You prove them wrong. 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:30.720 All right, We'll take a break. Where are we headed 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:35.119 with all these positive tests, these cancelations, a couple of postponements. 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:36.840 Are we going to be able to get all of 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:39.639 this in? What if Ohio State has another game that 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:41.240 they can't play and it has nothing to do with 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:44.800 Ohio State. They're not gonna be playing in the Big 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:49.000 Ten title game. Could Ohio States still get into the 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:54.800 final four the college playoffs with five five games? Six games? 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:58.919 Could they? And can we see a team that maybe 0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:01.360 like BYU or tex As Sam trying to get into 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:04.720 the final four, trying to schedule one another or other 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:07.680 games so you can fill up your resume the best 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:10.639 you can. We'll take a break twenty one after the 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:13.800 hour and we'll talk to Ohio State's head coach Ryan Day. 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:15.479 He'll join us coming up in an hour from now. 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:19.200 Back after this and the Dan Patrick Show. Sleep number 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:23.520 setting one hundred. Quality sleep is more important than ever 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:26.920 as we head into winter. And it's not only a 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:30.960 natural immunity booster, it also helps with energy and recovery. 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:33.520 And I can say this firsthand when I come in, 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:36.800 I'm older than everybody in here. I have more energy 0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:41.280 than everybody. Yeah, I do, Paulie me. I'm sure you're 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:45.760 on dr Yes, even Tyler, Oh, Tyler, are you kidding? 0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:50.960 You've been around. Tyler moves slow, and it doesn't seem 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:53.879 like he gets a good night's sleep. But you know 0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:55.480 there are times I come in, Paul he's at his 0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:57.359 desk and he's nodding off and I have to like 0:20:57.600 --> 0:20:59.280 smack in the back of head and go Paul, come on, 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:02.320 wake up. Helpful. Yes, but I do it. But I 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:04.639 also get a great night's sleep. 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So of course Doug Peterson the head coach, 0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:15.359 and Courson Wentz had to answer those questions. The second 0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:18.400 installment of the award winning drama Save Me comes to Peacock. 0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:21.640