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Speaker 1: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast, John Annik and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I love him.

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Speaker 3: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 4: John Cryptopia crack.

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Speaker 3: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 1: You're your hosts, John Anick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: Oh, is he gonna say it again that his favorite

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Speaker 5: episodes are the pay per view recaps?

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Speaker 6: He is?

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Speaker 5: That's the first thing he's gonna say. Monday, August eighteenth,

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Speaker 5: The Year's twenty twenty five, Episode five sixty three, The

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Speaker 5: Anak and Florian Podcast, brought to you by DraftKings DraftKings.

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Speaker 5: The Crown is yours and the Crown is Hamzat Chimiyas.

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Speaker 5: We have a lot to get to today. We are

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Speaker 5: going to talk to his nutrition as somebody embedded with

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Speaker 5: Team Chimayav, doctor Matteo Kappa Daglio. What a live event

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Speaker 5: in Chicago, Illinois. Before we get into Kamzat bors Chimayev

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Speaker 5: and his new gold belt, Kenny, how much time have

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Speaker 5: you spent in Chicago, Illinois.

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Speaker 4: Let's see, I'm actually going to be there this weekend,

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Speaker 4: my friend, So I'm heading out there on Friday.

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Speaker 3: But I've been there what like three four times something

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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 5: What a fucking city. I mean, I don't get out much.

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Speaker 5: I'm an introvert, I'm anti social, but I have not

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Speaker 5: spent a lot of time in Chicago, Illinois. I have

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Speaker 5: been there at least twice with the UFC in January.

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Speaker 5: Cody just wrote in the chat it's still no New

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Speaker 5: York City. I don't even know what to do with that.

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Speaker 5: As a Boston but Chicago's my new favorite US city,

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Speaker 5: with respect to Seattle and America's most underrated city, Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 5: In my hometown Boston, Massachusetts, the vastness, the openness parlayed

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Speaker 5: with the architect sure at this time of year, and

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Speaker 5: the restaurants and the deep dish pizza and the hot dogs.

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Speaker 5: I know it's a lot about food, Kenny, Chicago, Illinois

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Speaker 5: is a remarkable city. And when I heard Michael Van

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Speaker 5: and Page talk about being there as a tourist, I'm thinking,

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Speaker 5: you know, I'm an American and I guess I haven't

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Speaker 5: given Chicago perhaps the love that it deserved previously. And

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Speaker 5: the UFC fans were out full force in that fine

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Speaker 5: city this weekend.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think going to Chicago when it's at its

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Speaker 4: windiest and coldest, maybe not the best experience I have done.

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Speaker 4: That I've also done during the summertime, and it's a

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Speaker 4: completely different city. It kind of reminds me of that

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Speaker 4: feels like the energy is just different.

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Speaker 3: It really is.

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Speaker 4: Beautiful, love the architecture and just a lot of places

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Speaker 4: to go and see.

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Speaker 5: So I don't know how windy fuck is, but it's

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Speaker 5: windy as fuck right in Chicago, Illinois. You know that's

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Speaker 5: why it's not why it's called the windy city, though,

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Speaker 5: do you know that?

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 4: I heard actually the Boston was windier than chic I

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Speaker 4: don't know if that's true.

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Speaker 5: So I know Vermont will mess up your face with

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Speaker 5: wind when it's super cool. But yeah, I think Chicago,

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Speaker 5: Illinois is called the windy city because of blustery politicians,

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Speaker 5: as described by Northeastern politicians back in the day. That's

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Speaker 5: from my brother Dave, So you know, take that for

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Speaker 5: what it's worth. But great to have everybody with us today.

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Speaker 5: We are wicked excited to recap UFC three nineteen with you.

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Speaker 5: But it must be said the fans in Chicago, Illinois,

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Speaker 5: and i'd imagine some of them came far and wide

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Speaker 5: for this live event, but there are a lot of

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Speaker 5: could have done anything more to try to make a

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Speaker 5: point to the UFC to get back there expeditiously, Kenny.

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Speaker 5: They just heightened everything and so loud at the press

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Speaker 5: conference and on Friday, and you know, only criticism I

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Speaker 5: guess would be that they boothed the grappling every step

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Speaker 5: of the way. But a lot to get into to

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Speaker 5: that end. Headlines brought to you by Cuervo. Now's a

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Speaker 5: good time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila. The

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Speaker 5: new undisputed UFC Middleway Champion is Chechnya's Kamzat Bores Chimayev. Kenny,

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Speaker 5: he gets it done by unanimous decision fifty to forty

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Speaker 5: four times three. I thought you easily could have found

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Speaker 5: a couple ten eights in there. Tremendous performance by Haamzat Chimayev.

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Speaker 5: And when I'm in it and calling this fight, I

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Speaker 5: as it went down. What do you have for us

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Speaker 5: on Chimayev's brilliance and restling the belts away from Drinky's

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought that up. I think that people

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Speaker 4: As if two guys that were extremely chaotic and unpredictable

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Speaker 4: we had no idea what was going to happen. The

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Speaker 4: reality is is that that was not the case. I'm

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Speaker 4: all impressed, and I always admire fighters that can change

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Speaker 4: change like a million because certain approaches, certain environments, certain

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Speaker 4: to survive. And Hamzat Chimaya, this guy that everyone thought

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Speaker 4: you know, not pace himself entire you know, in rounds

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Speaker 4: four and five, that was not the case. All This

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Speaker 4: guy was very measured. His approach was phenomenal, his execution

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Speaker 4: was perhaps even better. Just a masterclass performance when it

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Speaker 4: comes to wrestling and control.

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Speaker 5: If he can get his body to peek in this way.

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Speaker 5: And we're going to talk to his nutritionness later today.

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Speaker 5: And of course everything that has been done with the

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Speaker 5: and he has worked exceedingly hard for the last eight

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Speaker 5: there have been some missteps, right, he got very sick

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Speaker 5: during the global pandemic. It hasn't always been perfect. I

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Speaker 5: at times you sort of have wondered if he's going

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Speaker 5: to get to the fight. But what an absolute ultimate

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, it's similar to the kind of the ball sports,

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Speaker 3: And that's what Hams that you might have did. He

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Speaker 4: He did not really give drinkis duplass any of those

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Speaker 4: and against homs that you might have if you've seen

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Speaker 4: dynamic movements that he does. You know, one handed, you

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Speaker 4: know cartwheels and backhand springs and all these other things.

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Speaker 3: This guy is an insane athlete.

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Speaker 4: And those physical trait, those trade advantages that DDP had,

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Speaker 5: So the notion of this is a chaotic fight potentially,

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Speaker 5: drekis in a particularly chaotic position in mma, which is

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Speaker 5: the fucking crucifix, right, and he was punching him. And

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Speaker 4: Because both many men have never been dominated by other men.

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Speaker 3: That's why, you know, a lot of guys think.

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Speaker 4: It's very easy to go out there in just like

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Speaker 4: duplicy just shows the kind of level of control that

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Speaker 4: And you combine that with all the athleticism that he has,

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Speaker 5: And he is an elite jiu jitsu player. Kenny right,

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Speaker 5: the twenty twenty four ANAKM Thorine Podcast Coach of the

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Speaker 5: Year said they didn't work in the crucifix, and I'm

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Speaker 5: wondering if you could give us a little bit on

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Speaker 5: that position, right, because if Dracus duplus c sort of

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Speaker 5: Submission Radio when Morne Visser said that, but right, there's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so there's a lot of things you could do

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Speaker 3: That's what should be dominant.

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Speaker 4: When the other guy can't even move and you can't

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Speaker 5: Me, right. So I am going to look on my

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Speaker 5: But the point really is is that you don't necessarily

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Speaker 5: Felicius Spencer, right, And I don't recall what those scorecards where.

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Speaker 5: Perhaps Cody could chase them, but you could have trotted

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Speaker 5: out like five ten eights potentially if memory serves right.

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Speaker 5: So in this fight, I'm just curious, and I will

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Speaker 5: But I'm curious, Kenny, in terms of ten eights and

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Speaker 5: Did you see one or two of them or what

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Speaker 4: I think that when you don't let someone in the

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Speaker 4: domination to me. And to me, I saw at least

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Speaker 5: Okay, I can't find it right now. I'm not going

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Speaker 5: to go searching through my email. But yeah, nun As

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Speaker 5: and it was at a different time obviously when it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was really impressive.

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Speaker 4: And John, you know, we had talked about this and

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Speaker 3: We're going to be ddps DDP was going to come

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Speaker 4: Hamzat won by decision, which to me makes it that

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Speaker 4: much more impressive. And if you have any you know,

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Speaker 4: think that, well, I just got to take it to

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Speaker 4: the later rounds. That's how I'm going to become. No, no,

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Speaker 4: you're not, Actually no you're not. I came in extremely

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Speaker 5: Few things working against Dracus Duplessi, and again he has

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Speaker 5: realized financial gain. He has been a tremendous ambassador for

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Speaker 5: on expressing gratitude just for everything. He's a tremendous champion.

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Speaker 5: He has worn that part well. You know, one issue

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Speaker 5: is all of these middleweight contenders whom we will get to.

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Speaker 5: The other issue is the one sided nature of this

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Speaker 5: sort of immediate rematch. You know, Dricus didn't really get

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Speaker 5: laud him for that. Certainly, his heart, his toughness is tremendous,

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Speaker 5: His smiling after the rounds, just sort of being like, hey,

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Speaker 5: but I can't do much with this particular stylistic problem,

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Speaker 5: right Like, I felt like I was getting a different

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Speaker 5: knowing that you know this particular matchhow you know he

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Speaker 5: he's a fearless competitor. But you know, Strickland and at

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Speaker 5: Asania didn't, didn't I think occupy as much of his

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Speaker 4: You know, I agree that there's no one like Hamsat

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Speaker 4: Chimai have in that one hundred and eighty five pounds

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Speaker 3: There's just no one like him.

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Speaker 4: And I would I would say that drinkis Dupless will

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Speaker 4: probably beat anybody in that top five. I don't see

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Speaker 4: Hamza has that singular style of wrestling which is going

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Speaker 4: a lot. And you know, you look at Hibibnmaga Matov,

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Speaker 4: and this was the nightmare matchup for Drikis Duplessy.

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Speaker 5: The UFC is going to Abu Dhabi for a pay

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Speaker 5: that Hamza Chimaya would fight on that date. Right Tom

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Speaker 5: aspinall is fighting seedle Goan, but that is his home

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm curious about that as well. I think that

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Speaker 4: puts tremendous value on that accomplishment of being a world champion.

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Speaker 3: I do know that he's also very much motivated.

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Speaker 4: By money, and you want to capitalize on your abilities

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Speaker 4: and on your health when you can. I do think

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Speaker 3: To go a hard twenty five.

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Speaker 4: Minutes against a beast like DDP shows that he had

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Speaker 4: But the other thing I wanted to mention John is,

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Speaker 4: I wasn't sure about the emotional intelligence and control of

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Speaker 4: someone like hamzat CHIMAIV, especially in a massive fight like

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Speaker 4: This guy was methodical, he was composed, He's stuck to

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Speaker 5: In terms of cardiovascular strength and heart commitment to the cause,

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Speaker 5: He's in tremendous physical shape right now. He didn't take

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Speaker 5: you would maybe advise against October. But if health is wealth,

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Speaker 5: I think it's very interesting. I don't think we're going

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Speaker 3: Gosh, I guess it.

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Speaker 4: Would depend on the opponent, right if it's someone that

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Speaker 4: quick turnaround. But if it becomes this, you.

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Speaker 4: Entails having to prepare for another guy like a DDP,

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Speaker 4: have to go other hard five rounds, well that's just

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Speaker 4: going to be more wear and tear in training camp

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Speaker 4: in my opinion. So you know, no training camp is easy,

436
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Speaker 4: but certain fights stylistically are going to be favorable over

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Speaker 4: other ones.

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Speaker 3: So I think it depends on the matchup.

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Speaker 5: John so Drika's du plus C was not at all

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Speaker 5: looking past Hamzachi may have to be sure, but in

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Speaker 5: the kture, in the scope of a fifteen to twenty

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Speaker 5: minute fighter meeting, you do spin it forward with the athlete.

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Speaker 5: And when DDP talked respectfully about all these other guys

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Speaker 5: and he invoked all of their names, he sort of

445
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Speaker 5: was talking about letting the other guys work it out.

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Speaker 5: Anthony Fluffy, Hernandez, Ryanier, de Ritter, Nsordini, Mavov and Kyle

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Speaker 5: Bohalio are going to fight here in three weeks, which

448
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Speaker 5: is just perfect. And there's the Bojaalio cutting weight twice

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Speaker 5: in three weeks, angle and everything else. But what would

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Speaker 5: you do if you were the UFC? Would you set

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Speaker 5: up a fight between Fluffy Hernandez and Rhinier de Ritter?

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Speaker 5: Would you wait three weeks? Would you talk about Abu Dhabi?

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Speaker 5: If this was the Kenny Florian Fighting Championships, what would

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Speaker 5: you do?

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Speaker 4: So I like the sound of that, John, I would

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Speaker 4: go with Rainier Deritdter. I would just put Rhinier Diritdter

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Speaker 4: at the top and just make that fight. If they

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Speaker 4: want to move that fight to October, which I would

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Speaker 4: imagine they probably would love to have Hamson fight there.

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Speaker 4: I think they would try to make that fight Rhinier

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Speaker 4: Diritdter a DeRidder against against Hamza. If they want to

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Speaker 4: push things up and kind of beef up another card,

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Speaker 4: then I would have him face the winner of Boholio

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Speaker 4: and a mob Off.

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Speaker 3: Sorry.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So amavas number one contender right now with the

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Speaker 4: number one seed right now. So I think that's the

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Speaker 4: fight that would probably make the most sense if they

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Speaker 4: want to push that back.

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Speaker 5: So I did an appearance at the Draftking Sports Book

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Speaker 5: at Wrigley Field, tremendous establishment with two of the better

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Speaker 5: grapplers on this roster, Banil dar Usch and Ryan near

473
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Speaker 5: de Ridder so and when I acknowledge them as such,

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Speaker 5: Benil said to the present RDR Ryan near DeRidder might

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Speaker 5: actually be the best grappler in the whole UFC. And

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Speaker 5: that's what Banil Daryusch said. So take it from Benny,

477
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Speaker 5: not from from me, right, So that is really exciting

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Speaker 5: to think about him. When I asked Ryan Neer de

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Speaker 5: Ridder about how Hamza Chimaya might approach a fight with him,

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Speaker 5: this was before UFC three nineteen, he was sort of

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Speaker 5: suggesting that, you know, Hamza's not gonna be shooting on me,

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Speaker 5: you know, like he you know I because that's what

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Speaker 5: I want. I want to shoot on me, you know,

484
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Speaker 5: and then I can play around with my game from there.

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Speaker 5: So that's fascinating. Anthony Fluffy Hernandez is a fascinating fight

486
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Speaker 5: as well, even if maybe he hasn't been top five

487
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Speaker 5: as far as an actual number next to his name.

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Speaker 5: You know, if you're Kyle Bohalio, you got to be

489
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Speaker 5: thinking like what the fuck man? You know, I mean, no,

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Speaker 5: you got to be meant to leak tough as he

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Speaker 5: was to make the weight, but yeah, he has to

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Speaker 5: be d Mavov right, and you know Bohio absorbs some

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Speaker 5: damage in his last win. He's gonna have to beat

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Speaker 5: Mavov right and recover right, and you know, cut the

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Speaker 5: weight beat him Avov recover and all the while Hamzaut

496
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Speaker 5: has already you know, has two guys who he could

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Speaker 5: potentially fight. I mean, it's just, man, this sport is

498
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Speaker 5: just ruthless at the top.

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Speaker 3: It's insane. And the other thing is like, hey, you know.

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Speaker 4: This is just me talking. This is the Kenny Florian

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Speaker 4: Fighting Championships, Okay. And I like hoam Zod as the champion,

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Speaker 4: and I know that he brings in a lot of

503
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Speaker 4: pay per views, and I would have you know, whoever

504
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Speaker 4: the winner is out of that imov Off and Bohio fight,

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Speaker 4: I would have a quick turnaround and I would have

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Speaker 4: a quick gun round and have a fresh of Hamzat Chimaya.

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Speaker 4: So it's gonna be tough, man Like, this is just

508
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Speaker 4: the way it goes.

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 4: Let me give you example when I fought BJ Penn. Okay,

511
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Speaker 4: BJ Penn didn't do the Philadelphia tour like media tour.

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Speaker 3: I did the Philadiaph Philadelphia media tour, I was talking

513
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Speaker 3: everybody and BJ was just kind of hanging out Jim.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 4: So it's like there's certain things that you have either

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Speaker 4: as champion or you know, as an organization.

517
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Speaker 3: To kind of I don't know, maybings happen certain ways.

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Speaker 5: I guess yeah, yeah, BJ penn not going to be

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Speaker 5: caught deceased in the city of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. And I

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Speaker 5: would imagine if you're a UFC executive listening to the

521
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Speaker 5: Anaic and Florian podcast, your inner monologue might be, like,

522
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Speaker 5: you know, there's the voice of the UFC idiot stick.

523
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Speaker 5: We're saving Hamzad for the new TV deal in January

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Speaker 5: or February.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 5: There are a lot of different things that are way

527
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Speaker 5: above my head slash pay grade, but Hamza Chimayav competing

528
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Speaker 5: regularly is just the most exciting shit out there, you

529
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Speaker 5: know what I mean. I mean, do you see the

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Speaker 5: way israel O da Sonia reacts on his freestyle Better

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Speaker 5: YouTube channel when Hamza gets down into a baseball catcher

532
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Speaker 5: stance at the beginning of the fight and grins and

533
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Speaker 5: sort of bats his eyes. I mean, it's just incredible,

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Speaker 5: And congratulations to the undisputed away champion Comza Chimayev. The

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Speaker 5: pole question at anti Florian Pod is of the four

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Speaker 5: top middleweight contenders, and I guess Sean Strickland is in

537
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Speaker 5: this mix. That is an interesting fight, especially because of

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Speaker 5: the history and training and Sean Strickland's comments about the

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Speaker 5: extent to which he thinks he can hang with and

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Speaker 5: out grapple Hamza Chimaya. But of those top four guys, right,

541
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Speaker 5: you get to send and you could throw Sean Strickland

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Speaker 5: in there if you're so inclined. Right of these five guys.

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Speaker 5: Right to save a parrot's life, birds live a long time.

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Speaker 5: Right to save a parrot's life, you need one guy

545
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Speaker 5: to beat Hamza Chimayav or the parrot gets its next snap.

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Speaker 5: Who are you send it in there? Sean Strickland, not Sordini, Mavov,

547
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Speaker 5: Kyle Bohalio, Ryan near de Ritter or Anthony fucking excuse me,

548
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Speaker 5: Anthony Fluffy Hernandez. So that's the question, Kenny, I guess,

549
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Speaker 5: uh are you in a parrot saving mood? Would you

550
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Speaker 5: just give it? I guess it sounds like Ryde the River.

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Speaker 3: I would so, actually, actually I would, Uh? I would?

552
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Speaker 3: I would throw Anthony Fluffy Hernandez in there, dude.

553
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Speaker 5: Well there is all right, So that's interesting, very interesting.

554
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Speaker 5: Let's go three wide as if we're on a football

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Speaker 5: grid Iron are bringing the star of the program. It's

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Speaker 5: the Ray long Oman.

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Speaker 1: Now times the Ray Long Minute.

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Speaker 3: What's a hole? Sus?

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Speaker 1: The Ray Long Minute, the John Nik and Kenny Florian podcast.

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Speaker 5: Bj pen ain't going to Philadelphia and Ray long Ago

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Speaker 5: and going to China. Welcome to Turks and Caicos, where

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Speaker 5: the skin is brown and the wake cuts are non existent.

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Speaker 5: Are you in Turks and Caicos right now? Oh my god, man,

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Speaker 5: fucking Aljos and China.

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Speaker 3: How beautiful is the water over there?

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Speaker 2: Ray?

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Speaker 3: It's nice?

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Speaker 6: Huh, very nice, very nice.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you rich guys fucking going to Turks and Caicos.

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Speaker 5: Aljamain sterling out here grinding in China. You look great.

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Speaker 5: I'm just having fun with you. Ray Longo Minute is

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Speaker 5: not presented by anyone today. Maybe the Chicken Pound wants

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Speaker 5: to get involved in at some point. If you do

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Speaker 5: want to sponsor the Ray Longo Minute, we are actively

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Speaker 5: looking for sponsors for twenty twenty six because it's.

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Speaker 6: Wow, let's do it, man, I might have to sponsor myself, Kenny.

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Speaker 5: Yes, well hey, I mean you got enough money to

578
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Speaker 5: go with the family to Turks and Cakos, you're going

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Speaker 5: to China from there? Or no, it's all right. Sorry sorry,

580
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Speaker 5: So Aljamin Sterling's fight week is upon us. We're going

581
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Speaker 5: to table that for a second and live in this

582
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Speaker 5: three nineteen business. I'm curious what it was like for

583
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Speaker 5: you watching hamza Chi might have do that to drinks

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Speaker 5: DUPLESSI What was that like for you?

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Speaker 6: Uh? Very very impressive man.

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Speaker 10: I mean I don't know who said it, but you

587
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Speaker 10: could see even on the ground, Kenny, he was just

588
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Speaker 10: one step ahead.

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Speaker 6: I mean he was trying.

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Speaker 10: It almost looked like he was trying the basic wrestling

591
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Speaker 10: moves like he was going to do them better than

592
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Speaker 10: Hamzad and he just kept getting shut down. But to

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Speaker 10: Dricus's point, man, he never gave up. I think that's

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Speaker 10: huge because if there's a fight to give up in it,

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Speaker 10: it's that type of fight. He never did, and I

596
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Speaker 10: think he stayed as safe as he could. You know,

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Speaker 10: it wasn't like he got a He got a spiritual

598
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Speaker 10: beating for sure, but physically he should be all right.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 10: Took a lot of you know, mini shots to the head.

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Speaker 10: I guess, I guess they end up. But I mean Hamzad,

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Speaker 10: I mean, I didn't think he could do that. I thought,

603
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Speaker 10: at least once the guy was getting back to his feet,

604
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Speaker 10: make him work a little bit, dragging into the deep rounds.

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Speaker 10: I was, I was way off this guy. He he

606
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Speaker 10: manhandled him. That that was a big brother beating, like

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Speaker 10: you know what I mean, like we just get big brother.

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Speaker 10: I don't know, but very very impressive. I'd love to

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Speaker 10: know what the brass thinks about that fight. What does

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Speaker 10: mc maine to think about that fight? Can we call

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Speaker 10: him ask him what he thinks about it?

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Speaker 5: It's just so interesting. Ray, No, let me get a

613
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Speaker 5: little let me get a little bit serious on you.

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Speaker 5: Sorry to interrupt, Kenny, Well, no, because I just was

615
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Speaker 5: so living in Homzot's dominance and brilliance Ray as a

616
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Speaker 5: mixed martial arts fan, that I was shocked, honestly to

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Speaker 5: get off the air and see all of the criticism

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Speaker 5: that it was a boring far I'm not even thinking

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Speaker 5: that one time as it's going on.

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Speaker 6: Okay, but John, here's the point.

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Speaker 10: If you're a Marsha, if you're an MMA you know, person,

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Speaker 10: you're a martial artist, you have to appreciate what Hamza did.

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Speaker 10: That's not what the UFC promotes. They promote two guys

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Speaker 10: standing up, banging it out. So you can't blame anybody

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Speaker 10: for saying that's boring, because they've been pitching that's boring,

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Speaker 10: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: It's almost like.

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Speaker 5: What do you what do you want?

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Speaker 6: You're right, they don't.

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Speaker 10: Give Pumi a shot because they say wrestles too much,

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Speaker 10: and then they have a champion that does that.

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Speaker 6: I think it's unbelievable. I love it all.

633
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Speaker 10: I'm sure Kenny loves it all till we can appreciate

634
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Speaker 10: from from a ground standpoint, you have to say that

635
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Speaker 10: that was an unbelievable performance. But you can't keep changing

636
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Speaker 10: the fucking goalposts all over the place.

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Speaker 2: Man.

638
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Speaker 6: It's just hypocrisy to its highest.

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Speaker 10: I mean, the fact that they're not coming out and

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Speaker 10: saying that was boring is pretty disturbing because they've led

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Speaker 10: me to believe, especially I'm just using pulling a what

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Speaker 10: if al it's right, John, what do you think would

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Speaker 10: have happened to them?

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Speaker 6: They were not?

645
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Speaker 5: And here, hey, you're you're opening my mind. I'm I'm

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Speaker 5: always open. You're right, No, you're right.

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Speaker 6: Just a grumpy old fuck. I guess right. But you know,

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Speaker 6: when you've been around a long time.

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Speaker 10: And you see the way people behave, I guess I

650
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 10: just see like this, it's discouraging.

651
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Speaker 6: That's how you would have did that.

652
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 10: I want to have somebody say they would they say

653
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 10: it was a phenomenal fight. No, they would have went

654
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 10: right to boring, and nobody would have given a ship.

655
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 10: And again, Ham's that phenomenal. They're not saying nothing. That

656
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 10: was against a guide. And I really didn't think he

657
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 10: could do that against it. He made it look super easy.

658
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 10: And I almost want to say that Hams that had

659
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 10: mercy on him, you know what I mean, he didn't,

660
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 10: you know, he didn't want to beat him up too big,

661
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 10: because you know.

662
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 6: When he's in the crucifix.

663
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Speaker 10: I think the other guy did a great job at

664
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 10: minimizing damage. But I'm going to say most fights would

665
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 10: have been stopped even in that position, you know, but

666
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 10: hats off, great job. It's just more I'm coming from

667
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 10: where you know, some of the other people. If Tyron

668
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 10: Woodley did that, what would have happened to him?

669
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Speaker 5: You got it well, Usman had some forgettable one, certainly

670
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 5: that Woodleigh fighter.

671
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, well, I.

672
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 4: Mean GSP had that style, you know, for his whole

673
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 4: career basically, but you know, he was a pay per

674
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 4: view star. Hams out to a pay per view star.

675
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 4: Habib is a pay per view star. And if you're

676
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 4: bringing in money for the UFC, then it doesn't matter

677
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 4: what you do. Yeah, but if you're not bringing in

678
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 4: money by the UFC and you have a boring style,

679
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 4: then you're a boring fighter. If you're you know, it's.

680
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 5: It's I got you know, but I mean think about it.

681
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 10: Though, I mean, and I agree one hundred percent with you,

682
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 10: but yeah, you know you But then it goes back

683
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 10: to are you pushing the guy? Are you getting behind

684
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 10: your champion? Are you promoting him the right way?

685
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 6: You know what I mean?

686
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 10: Like that, it doesn't end so yeah, whatever we I mean.

687
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 5: Well, no, I mean, ray I, you and I are

688
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 5: so alon. I agree, you're you're bringing up a lot

689
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 5: of inconvenient truths. You really are, And I don't have

690
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 5: an argument. I think Kenny brings great balance to the

691
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 5: discussion when sort of just making it matter of fact

692
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 5: about the pay per views. But you know, when I

693
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 5: look at like morob Dwallash Willie and all the intensity

694
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 5: and the offense and the volume takedowns, the notion that

695
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 5: he was ever called boring is laughable to me.

696
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 3: Right.

697
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 5: Balao Muhammas fight against Leon Edwards was wildly entertaining relative

698
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 5: to the public perception. He slammed him on his head,

699
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 5: he hurt him with hands. Leon bust to Blau wide open,

700
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 5: and then Bla against Jack Dela Madalena is nominated for

701
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 5: Fight of the Year. Right, then you take a stylist

702
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 5: like Hams. To me, the crucifix is one of the

703
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 5: more intense consequential positions in mixed martial arts. It's fucking rivetic,

704
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 5: you know, like my my brother is five feet away

705
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 5: thinking like, oh my fucking guy, and then.

706
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, John, you're making it. I agree, But and I'll

707
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 6: tell you, Kenny, I think we were talking. I don't

708
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 6: know if we were talking.

709
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 10: I was in the gym, but we were basically saying, like,

710
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 10: cross side is almost eliminated, you know, for like damage,

711
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 10: except for like the crucifix. But this guy's cross side

712
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 10: is different. He's he's big, he gets his legs up there.

713
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 10: You can't avoid the crucifix with this guy. It was

714
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 10: really That's why I say, if you're a martial artist,

715
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 10: you're a if you're really a fan, you appreciate what

716
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 10: that guy did.

717
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 6: This is absolutely no question about that.

718
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 10: But uh, you know, most of the times I'm just

719
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 10: trying to be a devil's advocate and you know, a

720
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 10: raise a win. As to certain things, I'm not totally

721
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 10: invested in it like it might come across like I am.

722
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 10: But super performance and the way he gets that crucifix

723
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 10: I think is phenomenal. I think he's going to get

724
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 10: it on most guys or you know. That's why I

725
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 10: say that there are some interesting matchups, but uh, you know,

726
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 10: you guys have mentioned in some guys, I think the

727
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 10: two biggest fights for him would be uh Islam and

728
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 10: fricking Kamara Usman again right right.

729
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 4: You know, when I when I look at Hobzop prior

730
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 4: to this fight, I think that the two criticisms are

731
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 4: the two things that maybe people had doubts about was

732
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 4: maybe his his emotional uh composure and his conditioning. I

733
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 4: think he put those things too to rest. So did

734
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 4: he do that for you? And is there anyone out

735
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 4: there out of those guys. And maybe you mentioned that

736
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 4: you think can beat him.

737
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 10: Uh, you know, it's funny, Kenny, because you know, I

738
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 10: think he did do it, But there was no resistance.

739
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 10: He was so far ahead of this guy that you

740
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 10: know what it's like in the gym, It's like grabbing

741
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 10: a beginner and you're just fucking with him.

742
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 6: You're not getting tired of doing that, right.

743
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 10: You're just you know, you're playing and let the almost,

744
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 10: letting the guy get and then your reversion whatever.

745
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 6: It's not.

746
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 10: That's the way it looked. So I thought there would

747
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 10: be more resistance in those first two rounds, just to

748
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 10: try to gas him out, and he just couldn't do it.

749
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 6: It was just he's on top.

750
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. Was Hamzat that much better? Though?

751
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 4: Like is that because Homsat's so damn good? Or is

752
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 4: because DDP just had a huge deficiency in his grappling.

753
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 6: Oh man, Uh, that's a good guy. I think.

754
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 10: Look, we know Hamsat's good, So I got to lean

755
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 10: towards homs that's just that good, you know what I mean.

756
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 6: But you know, and you.

757
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 10: Could see there was a little like he did get

758
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 10: to maybe for two seconds with the stands up a

759
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 10: little bit, so that looks like a gap.

760
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 6: But if you can't keep that fight standing, you have

761
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 6: no shot.

762
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 10: I mean you have you listen, we have to see

763
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 10: somebody make hams that really work to really test his

764
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 10: gas tanker is yeah, well, you know, and hats off

765
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 10: to him because he was that far superior that I

766
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 10: don't think he really had his guess thing tested.

767
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 6: At all with that.

768
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 10: You know, it's it's it's under pressure. Can you do it?

769
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 10: If you get reversed. There's a million things psychologically that

770
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 10: go into it. You know. Almost at the end when

771
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 10: it was a reversal and then he had one shine,

772
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 10: he thought he was gonna, you know, hit him with

773
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 10: the chow.

774
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 5: I thought Dan Thomas brought some great analytics to the

775
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 5: conversation during the fight when he talked about an anti

776
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 5: grappler like Gilbert Burns being able to sort of give

777
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 5: Kamaia pause in those situations. And there, thankfully are a

778
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 5: lot of guys at the top who I think could

779
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 5: provide an interesting challenge. What do you make? And I

780
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 5: want to be as efficient as possible. We got nineteen

781
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 5: more minutes here with Ray Longo. Thanks everybody joining us

782
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 5: live here on the attic and Flooring Podcast. What do

783
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 5: you make of Morning Visser saying that they didn't work

784
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 5: in the Crucifix at all?

785
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 6: Uh, I would think that's a big flow.

786
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 5: I know you're trying to not be critical of your

787
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 5: fellow coach, and I appreciate that.

788
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 10: Right, Well, yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. I mean, look,

789
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 10: they've done a great job with the guy up until

790
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 10: this point. I do believe that John. I do believe

791
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 10: drick As goes back, he's going to be a way

792
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 10: better fighter for this fight. I think he's got the

793
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 10: mindset he already proved he's not quitting, some mindset that

794
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 10: can get better, that's willing to learn, and I think

795
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 10: they will. They just got to bring in the right people.

796
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 10: But you know, Kenny will tell you like, well, you know,

797
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 10: when you're training for a fight, you have to train

798
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 10: bad positions. That's like saying, you know, you never addressed

799
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 10: the guy getting your back and with the triangle you

800
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 10: know on you you know, well a triangle on his legs, Like, oh,

801
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 10: I never, you know, I never wanted I never trained

802
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 10: for the arm bar. I mean, I don't know. You

803
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 10: got to train in those positions. You got to train

804
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 10: in bad positions.

805
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 2: And it's not.

806
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 10: Look it's easier said than done, you know, but you

807
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 10: have to at least make the attempt. But when a

808
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 10: guy is that much more ahead of you, it's it's

809
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:48,439
Speaker 10: really tough.

810
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 4: Man.

811
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 10: I mean, look, people better start wrestling. That's what it

812
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 10: proves to me. You've got to get those wrestling chops

813
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 10: in just enough to make a guy work, not where

814
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 10: it's going to be easy like that. That looked that

815
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 10: looked very easy. And hats off to hamzat Man. I

816
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 10: think the guy's a beast. And you know, according to

817
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 10: your first thing, I would like to see the Shor

818
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 10: and Strickland fight because they have a lot of great

819
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 10: banta going back and forth and they'll be bed blood

820
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 10: and I think that would be a good fight. And

821
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 10: they have been in the training room together, so there's

822
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 10: going to be people that know who's lying in that situation,

823
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 10: telling the truth who's not. But it certainly makes for

824
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 10: good mma, gossip and banta for sure.

825
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 6: So I would love to see that.

826
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 5: Fight, right, and even yeah.

827
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 6: I think Sean's a small guy. I think he he

828
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 6: would do really well enough.

829
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, and I even thinking beyond right, the

830
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 5: gossip and the band are just the competitive nature that

831
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 5: matchup and Sean just desirous of that win. It's all

832
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 5: very fascinating to think about and really real quickly, guys,

833
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 5: and Kenny, if I could lead to you on this

834
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 5: in terms of the coaching, right, if you're preparing for Kabeb,

835
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 5: nor Mago Meadow or Hamsa Chimi, you're not going to

836
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 5: close the gap. So philosophically, right, there are a lot

837
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,919
Speaker 5: lot of coaches who believe, like Ray got to spend

838
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 5: a lot of time in these bad positions, and there

839
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 5: are other coaches are like, dude, if we're fighting Abibe, like, no,

840
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 5: we need to he can't be on our back, right,

841
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 5: We're not going to close that gap. So like, yeah,

842
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 5: we could spend eight weeks with somebody you can on

843
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 5: your back, right, But if we if you get there

844
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 5: against Kabib, Normago Metov and not these amazing training partners,

845
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 5: you're fucked. So you need to make it the most

846
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 5: boring fight in the existence of MMA. Take the fight

847
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 5: out of the fight, take the air out of the fight,

848
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 5: and try to avoid that fate. You know, I think

849
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 5: it's interesting philosophically, Kenny and Ray, how people approach And again.

850
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 10: I'm just I know people will get mad of me,

851
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 10: but again, Al, I had point that had twenty four

852
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 10: hours I remember, Matt, unless we were preparing them. We

853
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 10: had like one training session. But Al with no training,

854
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 10: with no preparation because he had previous preparation, did phenomenal

855
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 10: in that fight. You know, he never he never was

856
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 10: really that I don't you know, I gotta go back.

857
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 10: But the way he would go to his back Kenny

858
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 10: to avoid uh, you know, getting choked and then rework

859
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 10: his way back up. I mean, he did a great

860
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 10: job on literally like a couple hours notice. It was

861
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 10: just one training sent but we knew what could be

862
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 10: could do. And this is you know, we had a

863
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 10: guy that could kind of pull it off on short notice.

864
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 6: Not an easy thing to do. What would have happened

865
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 6: if he would have prepared eight weeks for that fight?

866
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 10: You know who knows? And that's not a slot it

867
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 10: could be because I think he's the probabe and grace

868
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 10: of all time at what he was doing. But this

869
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 10: guy hams out looks really freaking good in that fight

870
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 10: against a against a tank.

871
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, John, No, I think you identified you know the

872
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 4: two approaches extremely well. I think either of you kind

873
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 4: of ignore that stuff and just say, well, we got

874
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 4: to be good where we're going to be, where we're

875
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 4: going to have the advantage. That's what we're going to

876
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 4: work on. We're just going to keep this on the feet.

877
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 4: And he gets taken down, he's got to survive, but

878
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 4: screw it, we're going to just try to expose that

879
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 4: advantage that we have. Or you go into like very

880
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 4: methodical training and say, okay, well these are the positions

881
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 4: that we have to worry about. You have to be

882
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 4: you got to know how to get back to your

883
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 4: feet safely from all fours.

884
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 3: You got to be very good.

885
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 4: If he's in half guard, in side control, that's where wrestling,

886
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 4: that's where a wrestler lives.

887
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 3: And if you are approaching there, you know it's it's

888
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 3: tough man.

889
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 4: You have to address those things because to me, you

890
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 4: got to give your fighter the ability to survive. They

891
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 4: can't win if they can't survive those passions. And you've

892
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 4: got to also give them the confidence that, hey, you

893
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 4: know how much time you spent here, if you if

894
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 4: you've got out grey training, you're gonna be able to

895
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 4: do it against hobsat So right, Yeah, I mean.

896
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 3: I would take the more thorough approach if possible.

897
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 6: And let me let me say one thing.

898
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 10: I don't know if you'll agree or disagree, but we're saying,

899
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 10: you know, even doing that in the training camp that

900
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 10: worked for DDP how to be done two years ago?

901
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. He should have had that

902
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 6: base two years ago.

903
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 10: You don't come in and you have eight weeks to

904
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 10: prepare and you get I don't think it works like that, man,

905
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 10: it's too a It's like taking a guy that has

906
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 10: no botching and you got eight weeks and we're going

907
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 10: to cover. I had to roll, how to weave, had

908
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 10: to do this, how to do that, had a block,

909
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 10: and had a slip.

910
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 6: Good luck against a guy that he's going to be

911
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 6: a step by. He knows where your head's going at

912
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 6: all time. It just doesn't work like that. That work

913
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 6: has to be done from the beginning. That's what you do.

914
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 5: So Drigus dupless he was submitted I think by Roberto

915
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 5: Soldiz back in twenty eighteen, a very good fighter, and

916
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 5: I think he avenged that loss right. But I was

917
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 5: asking the question going into this fight, how submittable is

918
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 5: drec is du plus C and part of the reason

919
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 5: I was asking that fight is because I didn't think

920
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 5: he was that submittable, in part because he's not going

921
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 5: to tap. You know it probably is the guy would

922
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 5: let his arm break right against his better judgments, right,

923
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 5: So not that he was that submittable. So I think

924
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 5: we all are encouraged by DDP moving forward in terms

925
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 5: of the toughness in the mindset. But to your point,

926
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 5: these grappling gaps, the resting gaps, it's not I don't

927
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 5: know how close the ball they are.

928
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 6: Don't believe it shouldn't be that like that.

929
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 10: I don't think at this stage with his one huge

930
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 10: discriptant see like you would think after twenty five years.

931
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 5: The complete phenom. He's he's really athletic, He's he's classically trained,

932
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 5: he's so well trouted. He works hard. Now you know,

933
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 5: yeah that you know and say what you want about,

934
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 5: you know, past transgressions involving certain athletes, but the way

935
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 5: certain athletes talk about that garage and Sam Calavita and

936
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 5: how hard it is to get through one of those workouts. Dude,

937
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 5: I mean, he's taking it to the next level physically,

938
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 5: he's leaner. It's a scary proposition for Fluffy RDR and

939
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 5: everybody else.

940
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, without a doubt, you know.

941
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 10: And and again I do think, you know, he looks like,

942
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 10: you know, he's a little whacky. Before the fights, he's

943
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 10: he seems like a really good sport, you know what

944
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 10: I mean.

945
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 6: I think he does this thing. But he really, you know,

946
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 6: is a really really good competitor, you know what I mean.

947
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 6: But with DDP.

948
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 10: Getting submitted, as much as I think Comsat was way

949
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 10: ahead of him, like you know, I think I think

950
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 10: he tried to do like a sit out one time

951
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 10: like that, like that was going to work on Hamsad

952
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 10: and you could see was like ten steps ahead of him.

953
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 10: But with the mission defense, drick Is knew when he

954
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 10: was going for the neck, he was he wasn't It

955
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 10: didn't look like he was going to get submitted in

956
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 10: that fight. So I think I got to give grick

957
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 10: Is some credit when it came to the things that

958
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 10: he knew. Even now you could see what he didn't know,

959
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 10: But when it came to the things he knew, Like

960
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 10: there was times when he went for the neck and

961
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 10: I thought he defended really well. He did a great job.

962
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 10: You know, Hamsa would try to hook his leg and

963
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 10: he would move that leg out.

964
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 6: He did that fifty thousand times in that fight, so

965
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 6: they had he was right there. This guy's just that good.

966
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 6: I think that's what.

967
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 5: We got a few more minutes here with Ray Longo,

968
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 5: so we'll keep it on UFC three nineteen and then

969
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 5: we'll transition to Aljamet Sterling. And there is a fascinating

970
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 5: conversation that we had in terms of maybe you know,

971
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 5: some promotional malpractice when it comes to your guy Aljo.

972
00:46:55,080 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 5: Back in the day, Laron Murphy just turned in the

973
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 5: top ten knockouts in UFC history, and what I believe

974
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 5: is the knockout of the year. Kenny, gohead, dude.

975
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 4: I mean, first of all, the back to back spinning elbows, like,

976
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 4: come on, man, the MMA gods are too good to us.

977
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 3: But that knockout was just unbelievable. I have chills thinking

978
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 3: about it.

979
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 4: First of all, you know, like the pressure in the

980
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 4: aggression from Pico.

981
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 3: Is what allowed for that to happen.

982
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 4: And we talked about the emotional discipline of a guy

983
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 4: like Aaron Pico fighting in his first fight in UFC

984
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 4: debut against someone like Laron Murphy that was easily the

985
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 4: toughest competition that he's ever had, in my opinion, And

986
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 4: while Laron wasn't like wildly successful in the early parts

987
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 4: of that round, every time he threw a strike it

988
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 4: was like it was landing with precision the elbow before that,

989
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 4: but the you know, it looked really like if he landed,

990
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 4: it was going to be dangerous at at some point.

991
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 4: And boy was that devastating. That was that elbow devastating.

992
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 4: It was just unbelievable. Hit him right right on the temple.

993
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 4: And there was a point where, again it's rare I

994
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 4: see a knockout. It's like I'm never excited, you know,

995
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 4: or I always kind of feel bad for the other guy.

996
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 4: This was almost scary at a certain point. That's how

997
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 4: hard he hit Aaron Pico. And then kind of followed

998
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 4: up with a little shot after that because he was

999
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 4: fired up. But I mean, Aaron Pico looked like, you know,

1000
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 4: he was absolutely frozen in time with that shot.

1001
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 3: I mean, he was out as soon as it landed.

1002
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 4: Absolute brilliance there from Lauren Murphy talk about landing is shot,

1003
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 4: especially given the history where everyone was booing his ass

1004
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 4: after that last fight. That's how you come back and win.

1005
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,919
Speaker 6: Fans oh, big time. And you know we talked about

1006
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:46,919
Speaker 6: knocking the guy out.

1007
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 10: It's like having a car crash, two guys car crashing together.

1008
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 10: And it was Pico, like Kenny said, it was his aggression.

1009
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 10: So that car crash happened at one hundred and twenty

1010
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 10: miles an hour, whereas DF Neil wasn't that aggressive his

1011
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 10: car crash, you know, it was like forty five miles

1012
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 10: and now you know what I mean, but disc with that.

1013
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 10: But I feel bad for Pico.

1014
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 6: Man.

1015
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 10: He was looking good. He was digging the body shots

1016
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 10: looked like he was getting to him. You know, he's

1017
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 10: a nice guy. It's his first time in there in

1018
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 10: the UFC.

1019
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 6: Yeah it was uh, you know, he went in there

1020
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 6: and he was doing his job. He was.

1021
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 10: He was going for it, but a little defensively, irresponsible

1022
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 10: I think with the aggression, and they cost him. But

1023
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 10: I just hope he comes back. I like, he fought

1024
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 10: a guy and Jim James Gonzalez, and uh, you know,

1025
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 10: I got to see how good.

1026
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 6: He really was, and he was looking good.

1027
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 10: Man. He was on a thing. He was doing what

1028
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 10: he said he was going to do. And yeah, you know,

1029
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 10: you zig when you should have zagged and that's what happens,

1030
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 10: and I just hope he's okay and he comes back

1031
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 10: from that.

1032
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1033
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 4: I think that's one of those fights also, Ray where

1034
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 4: he should take off a lot of time after that

1035
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 4: kind of knockout when you see like your feet just

1036
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 4: completely go stiff like that. His whole body was just

1037
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 4: stiff and he was out of it for a long time.

1038
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 4: I would like to see him take take a lot

1039
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 4: of time off to allow his brain and body to

1040
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 4: recover after that one, because he really is an exciting

1041
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 4: fighter and I think he could be a great asset

1042
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 4: to the UFC based on his style and skills.

1043
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 3: But that was a scary knockout for sure.

1044
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, but yeah it really was.

1045
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 10: I don't know, I just I feel bait for him

1046
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 10: because you know, to pit Bull Fight or even Patchy Mix,

1047
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 10: who I like, they didn't pull the trigger like you

1048
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 10: know what I mean.

1049
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 6: It was there was a hesitancy.

1050
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 10: This guy came out like a bad ad of hell

1051
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 10: and unfortunately he might have worked against him, but he

1052
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 10: was there to entertain people.

1053
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 6: And you know, I hope the UFC does the right

1054
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 6: thing by that kid.

1055
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's just going to have to mitigate risk a

1056
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 5: little bit better. He is so classy an individual. And

1057
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 5: if you were to ask Laron Murphy about Aaron Pico, right,

1058
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 5: and a lot of you have heard him say this, right,

1059
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 5: he said that was hardest beginning might ever And even

1060
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 5: privately in my conversation with Theron after the fight, I

1061
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 5: think Lorone feels like Aaron Pico is going to make

1062
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 5: a real run, like he is that good. He just yeah,

1063
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 5: there are just a lot of people that felt like

1064
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 5: his aggression was going to work against seven to play

1065
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:17,919
Speaker 5: out exactly like that.

1066
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, but he he did do.

1067
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 10: Lorone is I believe spot on and telling the truth.

1068
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 10: I mean, I do think that that he it was.

1069
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 10: It wasn't looking good. You know, he's smarted that right,

1070
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 10: I really did take away. But Lorone said it though,

1071
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 10: was I think he caught him with the knee a

1072
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 10: couple of times maybe, so he was getting his timing.

1073
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 10: He had to survive enough to get the read on

1074
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 10: him that he needed, and he certainly did that. So

1075
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 10: that's off to Laren Murphy and uh and that's off

1076
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 10: to uh Pico. Man.

1077
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 6: I hope, like again he's a good guy. I hope

1078
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 6: he doesn't.

1079
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, it's I think a lot of us when

1080
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 5: there is a knockout like that, to Kenny's point, we

1081
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 5: end up sort of feeling more about the victim than

1082
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 5: the guy who doled out the punishment. But of always,

1083
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 5: Kenny to wrap up an hondisputed UFC featherweight title shot

1084
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 5: that is going to happen in December, right to do

1085
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 5: it like this with the knockout of the ear, It

1086
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 5: just doesn't get much better.

1087
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 4: Dude, Again, I can't get rid of these chills. But

1088
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 4: how much did Murphy have to lose? He thought a

1089
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 4: guy coming.

1090
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 3: Into his UFC debut, shit.

1091
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 4: Notice, really tough stylistic matchup, and it was like, if

1092
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 4: he lost that fight Larne at what number six, number seven,

1093
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 4: would have gone down the rankings like at number ten

1094
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 4: or eleven and lost his spot. But instead he took

1095
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 4: the gamble. And this is what's so great about the

1096
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 4: UFC two is that they give you these opportunities to

1097
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 4: prove yourself. And he went out there and made the

1098
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 4: most of it, and he just jumped the line. Boy,

1099
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 4: and he's going to get that shot against Bolkanovki, which

1100
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 4: is freaking phenomenal.

1101
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 3: And I can't for that fight.

1102
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 5: I mean I feel like he had as much to

1103
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 5: gain as well, right, and sort off, you get yourself

1104
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 5: in a position, Kenny when we talk about these elite

1105
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 5: fighters and ray we only need two more minutes, mom, Man,

1106
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,479
Speaker 5: we're talking about these elite fighters, right, and how hard

1107
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 5: it is at the top. And if you're Laurent Murphy

1108
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 5: sitting in Manchester and you accept this Aaron Pico fight

1109
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 5: with immediacy, right, But in that minute or two Kenny,

1110
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 5: before he says yes, I'll fight Aaron Pico on three

1111
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 5: weeks notice, you're sitting there with Carl Prince thinking like,

1112
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 5: this is it. This is our opportunity, right, Like we're

1113
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 5: number six in the world. We might have to beat

1114
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 5: John Silva and fucking Arnold Allen still to get a

1115
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 5: title fight, or we can fight Aaron Pico on three

1116
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 5: weeks notice. And now they're fighting for the world title. Raymond.

1117
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 5: Another guy they might have to get through, or might

1118
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 5: have had to had they not done what they did

1119
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 5: this past weekend is al Jamaine Sterling. And I just

1120
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 5: want to say it really is interesting because even though

1121
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 5: he's quirky, and you would be the first to say that, right,

1122
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 5: I'm not sure that you know you know they say less.

1123
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 5: I'm not sure that you know there is an example

1124
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 5: of a guy in UFC history who more could have

1125
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 5: been done with than al Jamaine Sterling. He's so handsome,

1126
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 5: he's got a great smile. Imagine you know, Dan and

1127
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 5: some of these guys, you know, taking a post by

1128
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 5: press conference podium and being like you see that fucking

1129
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,240
Speaker 5: human backpack, Like the consequences of that dude get anywhere?

1130
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 10: Right.

1131
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 5: So I understand what we're saying, job, but it's hard

1132
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 5: to compare anyone to hams Out, who I have said

1133
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,879
Speaker 5: now for half a decade is the most electrified for us.

1134
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 7: In the game.

1135
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 6: But at it we get it. Yeah, no no argument.

1136
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 5: I'll just fight in the comin event in Shanghai, China

1137
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 5: against Brian Ortega. I'd love to get your thoughts on that.

1138
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 5: Who's taking your place in the corner and everything else.

1139
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 6: I think he's he's there with Morob and Bezooka.

1140
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 10: Uh you know if he sent me aspar and you

1141
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 10: know he looks good, Aljo, I think, honestly, Look, he's healthy,

1142
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 10: he's getting better. I believe he's he's super intelligent, he's

1143
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 10: a student of the game and h he's gonna you know, again,

1144
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 10: I always say this, he knows how to fight with himself.

1145
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 10: He knows al Joe, and he knows how to stay

1146
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 10: in that lane, and it's served him really well. And

1147
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 10: I think the older he gets, he's gonna take He's

1148
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 10: already taken more risks in the last couple of fights,

1149
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 10: so I think he's he's.

1150
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:06,919
Speaker 6: Gonna have a great time to look.

1151
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 10: Sometimes it takes you get older and you realize, you

1152
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 10: know what, this isn't as bad as I thought it was,

1153
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 10: or you know, you know whatever, I could take a

1154
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 10: punch better than I thought I could, or whatever it is.

1155
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 10: Sometimes things change as you're mature, and I think that's

1156
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 10: what we're seeing with al Jo. So I expect a

1157
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 10: great fight out of him. And again al Joe. Al

1158
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 10: Joe knows al Jo, and I'm sure he broke down

1159
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 10: that fight really really well.

1160
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1161
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 5: No, you couldn't have put that better. There's an undeniable

1162
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 5: commness to him at this stage of his career. You

1163
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 5: parlay that with not having to get on the scale

1164
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 5: at one thirty five or one thirty six. I think

1165
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 5: it's a recipe for success. And I wish you guys

1166
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 5: all the best so the only.

1167
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 10: Shot there is the five rounds, because you know, we

1168
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 10: were talking the last couple of fights, it's so nice

1169
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 10: to have a three round fight.

1170
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 5: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa this is Are you sure it's

1171
00:55:58,280 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 5: five rounds?

1172
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 6: I'm not totally.

1173
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 5: It's not five rounds, right, I mean, where do you

1174
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 5: get your fucking information? I'll look it up right now.

1175
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 6: Are you checking that out?

1176
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 2: Good?

1177
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 5: Good thing he's not on the corner.

1178
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 6: Huh, holy shit. I would have thought he had two

1179
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 6: more rounds.

1180
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 5: No, this is I'm almost three rounder from what I

1181
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 5: can tell where. Yeah, I believe this is a three

1182
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 5: round fight, Raymond. I mean, I mean, get your fucking facts.

1183
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 5: I mean, you really aren't in China?

1184
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 6: Huh, holy shit, man, somebody told me that was.

1185
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 5: A fun round you guys been round fight.

1186
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 6: Then he's then he's a Aljo is really in good shape.

1187
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 10: I do it.

1188
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 3: I mean I think they should be the main event.

1189
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 4: Which hundred round Yeah, but it's in China and they

1190
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 4: have Min Young Miing young right.

1191
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, Sean Migyong is headlining. I'm just going through my

1192
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 5: emails here from our producers at Candido to find the

1193
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 5: fight card. But I am ninety percent sure, and I

1194
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 5: know Cody has it as three rounds, but Ray, yeah, horrific.

1195
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 5: Oh wow, all right, five round fight?

1196
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 3: There you go?

1197
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 5: Is it a no five round fight? Car says five rounds?

1198
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 6: What the fuck are you guys doing? Hey, I'm sorry

1199
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 6: and the idiot Wow.

1200
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 5: I'd like to issue Cody where you get your creation?

1201
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 6: Ray?

1202
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 5: Where are you getting here?

1203
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 10: I mean he's sending me five rounds as far and

1204
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 10: I don't know he wouldn't do that for a three

1205
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 10: round fight.

1206
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 5: That's really interesting.

1207
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 6: And I was talking to somebody, so I hope they

1208
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 6: at least compensate them for the extra two and they

1209
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 6: said no.

1210
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 5: Gosh, man, I really feel like when that was initially

1211
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 5: agreed to it was a three round fight. It's going

1212
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 5: to be interesting to hear that be discussed. But no,

1213
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 5: per my email at the fight card, that's a five

1214
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 5: round fight. Ray, So there you go.

1215
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 10: What's what's the reason that's a five round anybody have

1216
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 10: any idea?

1217
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 5: Domina Cruz, somewhere in the great state of California, Nevada,

1218
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 5: is like, what are we doing?

1219
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 6: Can we What are we doing? Why is that a round?

1220
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 10: Hey?

1221
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 5: Have a great time at tur and cakes are you

1222
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 5: going to watch the fight down there. You're gonna be

1223
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 5: home by then.

1224
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 6: I'll be home by then. I'll be home tomorrow.

1225
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 5: Well we Crecie, you joining us on your.

1226
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 10: Last maybe maybe not buckwech Jimmy, maybe maybe not buk week.

1227
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 6: I gotta get out of here, man, I gotta go.

1228
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, Hey, love you, thank you, bok you buddy. The

1229
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 5: great Ray Longo with us here on the Endic and

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1231
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Speaker 2: And we've been wrong.

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Speaker 5: Maayav and now joining US doctor mate Aocapo Daglio. He

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Speaker 5: had the belt over his left shoulder after UFC three nineteen. Congratulations,

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Speaker 5: my man. I mean I saw your video on Instagram

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Speaker 11: Thank you very much, guys, and good morning, or I

1273
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Speaker 11: should say one journal in Italian.

1274
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 5: Yes, So I guess I'll peel it back to the

1275
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Speaker 5: beginning and then we can move forward. But when did

1276
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Speaker 5: you first start working with Hamzachimaya and what has that

1277
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 5: experience been like for you?

1278
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Speaker 11: So I started working Hansa before the we took her fight. Essentially,

1279
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 11: Armand was training with him in the mountains in Russia,

1280
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Speaker 11: and I guess they talk about nutrition and Arman told

1281
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Speaker 11: him that, you know, I know one thing or two

1282
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Speaker 11: about performance nutritions. So he decided to get me, and

1283
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 11: it was a very fast decision, and within ten days

1284
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Speaker 11: I went from watching Hansa on television to be in

1285
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Speaker 11: Abu Dhabi and cook for him. And he's seemed taking

1286
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Speaker 11: care of the you know, the weight loss and the performance.

1287
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Speaker 4: Have there been any challenges in working with Hamzad and

1288
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 4: kind of getting him to change his mind about certain things?

1289
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 11: It's more I think who was the hardest job is

1290
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Speaker 11: people that need to tell him a today, you got arrest?

1291
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Speaker 5: Yeah right.

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Speaker 2: He is a machine. He will train all day every day.

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Speaker 11: Sometimes in Abu Dhabi, they will finish a very very

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Speaker 11: hard wrestling session and it will go playing What's puddle

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Speaker 11: for a couple of hours.

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Speaker 2: It was crazy.

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Speaker 11: But No, Mainly the challenges can revolve just around the

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Speaker 11: fact that I'm more oriented towards the Italian cuisine and

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Speaker 11: he has a Russian background, so it's because you know,

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Speaker 11: it's a little different and I don't know all the

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Speaker 11: dishes from from his original culture.

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Speaker 12: So but he happens to to enjoy pasta, and I

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01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 12: think he's not going to have much now that he's

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Speaker 12: off camp, because he had so many as we were

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Speaker 12: preparing so much.

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Speaker 2: As we were preparing for this fight.

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Speaker 6: But it's being pretty smooth pasta.

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Speaker 3: Risotta. Where were you when I was cutting weight? I mean, gosh,

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Speaker 3: I wish I had you.

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Speaker 4: So what's been what's been kind of the big change

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Speaker 4: because it's been a little while since I thought, but

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Speaker 4: what's kind of been the big change as far as

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Speaker 4: as you prepare certain athletes for uh these weight cuts

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Speaker 4: and specifically specifically because it's different. There's there's the nutrition

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Speaker 4: aspect of becoming a better athlete, but these guys have

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Speaker 4: to make weight. So what kind of adjustments have you

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Speaker 4: made or for for Hamzad and making sure that he

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Speaker 4: gets down to the proper weight because that's been a

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Speaker 4: struggle of his.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: So I think back in the days and can Flow

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Speaker 11: was watching you on the Ultimate Fire back.

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Speaker 2: When was in Italy.

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Speaker 11: I think back in the days there was this very

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01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 11: wrong and dangerous conception that in order to make it

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Speaker 11: through it, you had to experience a level of pain.

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Speaker 11: You know, so work hard or work home or go

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Speaker 11: home or what is that like my workout? Your workout

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Speaker 11: is my warm up and that's how you like really

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Speaker 11: ruin a lot of athletes. I think there was also

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Speaker 11: a lack of science in the field. So I think

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Speaker 11: what I've been doing, what are a very very good

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Speaker 11: professional like Charles Stall at the Performances Institute or Jordan Salivan,

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Speaker 11: I've been doing is just bringing the sweet science in

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Speaker 11: the practical field and tell them yes, of course, so

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Speaker 11: making wait, it's not going to be easy and it's

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Speaker 11: never going to be one hundred percent safe practice.

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Speaker 2: But what we can do.

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Speaker 11: Is trying to contestualize where we are in camp and

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Speaker 11: giving you the right nutrients so you can perform but

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Speaker 11: at the same time lose weight.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if that answers your question, but.

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Speaker 11: It's more like we don't have to go art every day.

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Speaker 11: If you have sparring, of first you need to perform.

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Speaker 11: So we need to emphasize on that carbohydrate consumption versus

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Speaker 11: on rest day.

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Speaker 2: Okay, today you don't need as much energy, we might

1348
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 2: go a little lower with carbs. We can increase a

1349
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Speaker 2: little bit of protein and effect.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Doctor Matteo Kapadaglia with us here live on the Antic

1352
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 5: and Florian podcast. He handled some performance and nutrition elements

1353
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Speaker 5: for the Great Now on Disputed YOUFC Midway champion Hamas Actuimia.

1354
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 5: But I wanted to just ask you a question and

1355
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 5: then we can get back to Hams out about Arman

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01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 5: Sarrakion recently weighed in as a backup right for the

1357
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Speaker 5: lightweight championship fight, but he didn't have a fight on

1358
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Speaker 5: the horizon, right, Kyle Bohalio just cut weight as the

1359
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 5: backup for this fight. It now has to do it

1360
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 5: again and fight in three weeks. We saw Tony Ferguson

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Speaker 5: do like a practice cut for fun back in the day.

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Speaker 5: I would imagine you see some challenges in some downside

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Speaker 5: in terms of what Kyle Bohaya just did, or I

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Speaker 5: guess in your industry and with your methodology, if done right,

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Speaker 5: is it really okay?

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Speaker 2: It's a very good question. So again, I don't think anyway.

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Speaker 11: Cut is one hundred percent safe because you're pushing your

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Speaker 11: body to the limit.

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Speaker 2: That's that's factual, and we can put as much science

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Speaker 2: as we want.

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Speaker 11: But if in the last twenty four hours before weighs,

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Speaker 11: you cut, say nine to thirteen pounds of your body

1373
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 11: weight for a middleweight, it's going to have It's going

1374
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 11: to put your body under a certain distress. Now I

1375
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 11: don't know the numbers for Cayo, but will it doesn't

1376
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 11: look like a small boy, So would I suggest if

1377
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Speaker 11: I was this nutritionist and he asked me about that,

1378
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Speaker 11: would I suggest it?

1379
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Speaker 2: Probably not? But at the same time. I don't know

1380
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Speaker 2: what's in inflate, so I guess.

1381
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Speaker 5: And you know sport, when opportunity knocks right, sometimes you

1382
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 5: have no choice but to consider it. So in terms

1383
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 5: of commsat right, i'd imagine for you as a performance

1384
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 5: coach and nutritionist, you see value in these twenty five minutes.

1385
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 5: Even if Dreek is duplus, he didn't get anything done

1386
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 5: against your athlete, largely right for you to not have

1387
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 5: a quick fight necessarily and to sort of now have

1388
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Speaker 5: this data if you will, of his body performing over

1389
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 5: twenty five minutes, I'd imagine there's some upside to that

1390
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 5: for you.

1391
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 11: Yes, absolutely, Yeah, it's maybe it's a little country intuitive,

1392
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 11: but performance like Saturdays compared to the Rubber.

1393
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 2: And Whittacker performance. So it's much more about how the

1394
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 2: camp went in terms of the weight cup and the

1395
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 2: performance and nutrition.

1396
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Speaker 11: And yeah, what can I say is a machine And

1397
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 11: let me tell you something as an Italian, let's talking

1398
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 11: Italian terms like I don't create this machine. These machines

1399
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 11: are made in years Ferrari. I just put the right fuel,

1400
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 11: the right you know, okay in fuel. So but there

1401
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 11: was definitely a performance for the ages and attestament to

1402
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 11: the work we have done.

1403
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 5: So there is a new television deal for the UFC

1404
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 5: in the United States and that could factor prominently into

1405
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 5: the equation of when Kamzak Chimayav gets back into the octagon.

1406
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 5: But you know, nobody waves the flag for the United

1407
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 5: Arab Emirates like Kamzak Chimayev. Right, we do have a

1408
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 5: pay per view in Abu Dhabi that is not a

1409
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 5: championship doubleheader on paper, at least right now. You know,

1410
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 5: I would imagine that that is way too ambitious to

1411
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 5: think that we could see Kamzak in October. But given

1412
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 5: his track record for making quick turnarounds at times, having

1413
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 5: long layoffs at times, having health issues at times, if

1414
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 5: health is wealth and again I'm not trying to put

1415
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 5: you on the spot, but is it totally out of

1416
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 5: the realm of possibility that we could see you guys

1417
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 5: in nine or ten weeks time.

1418
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 11: I mean, I don't really play a role in that

1419
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 11: in that aspect decision making process.

1420
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna lie.

1421
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 11: Like throughout the camp I heard some people that are

1422
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 11: a bigger role than me on that saying, well, if

1423
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:20,879
Speaker 11: this file goes well, it's not out of the picture.

1424
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:22,719
Speaker 5: I guess, yeah, well that's fine.

1425
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 11: So yeah, I don't know if they're actively pursuing that

1426
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 11: route or now you know, it's just I want to

1427
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 11: chill a little bit with mine.

1428
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, Doctor Mateo Kapadaglia with us here live on the

1429
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 5: Anakin Florian podcast Capo Nutrition. So I saw some photos

1430
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 5: of you today sleeping in airports as part of your

1431
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,919
Speaker 5: regular routine back in the day, and it's really amazing,

1432
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 5: I think for all of us involved in this sport

1433
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 5: to see people in different pockets of this sport realize

1434
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 5: success in it. So what has your sort of run

1435
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:53,719
Speaker 5: been like? I remember maybe it was with Marvin Vittori,

1436
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,839
Speaker 5: if I'm not mistaken when you first sort of surfaced

1437
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 5: on my radar. But what has it been like for you,

1438
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 5: you know, to have some personal success alongside the growth

1439
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 5: of this fine sport.

1440
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 11: Well, can I share a crazy story me in Marvin

1441
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 11: we go back in the days, So I was completely

1442
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:12,719
Speaker 11: my doctorate, I wasn't earth and I guess I didn't

1443
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,759
Speaker 11: need that much time to study. I used to write

1444
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,719
Speaker 11: in a forum that was like fifteen years ago something

1445
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 11: like that. And the play by play announcer for you

1446
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 11: have seen Italy read one of my posts defriending Nick

1447
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 11: Diaz and it told me, ay, I want to start

1448
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 11: the newspaper and I want to cover Italian events, so

1449
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 11: you want to you want to work, of course for free,

1450
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 11: but for the newspaper.

1451
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 6: I was like, for sure.

1452
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 11: And again at the time, I was twenty three, twenty four,

1453
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 11: I think Marvin was was nineteen.

1454
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 2: And it was fight.

1455
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 11: It was twenty one and he was fighting in these

1456
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 11: local Italian event so we got to connect.

1457
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 2: I did what you do.

1458
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 11: John, like, I studied the numbers and I thought like, oh,

1459
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 11: this guy is very good.

1460
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 2: It's really putting a lot on the line.

1461
01:09:55,920 --> 01:10:00,120
Speaker 11: He relocated to London and h and after that event.

1462
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 2: Told he may listen DoD like.

1463
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 11: No one was giving the dam about us at that event,

1464
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 11: but we can be a team.

1465
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,679
Speaker 2: So that's that's when I started to work with Marks

1466
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 2: over ten years ago before the UFC crazy.

1467
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 5: Wow and look at you now? So what are your

1468
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 5: thoughts on Arman Sarahian? I mean, is he going to

1469
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 5: fight for the belt? What are we doing here?

1470
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 2: Well, Harmony's down and make you dance in two people?

1471
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 5: So we need to find the partner, right, That's a

1472
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Speaker 5: good way to put it, well, congratulations on all of

1473
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 5: your success, my man. And uh, if anybody wants to

1474
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 5: find a video on Instagram of you celebrating, it was

1475
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 5: just so genuine. And I know you've touched a lot

1476
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 5: of lives and people in this sport, but uh, your

1477
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 5: reaction was just so genuine. And I think for a

1478
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 5: lot of us that sort of have seen coms out

1479
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 5: rise to this point, you really do root for him

1480
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:54,640
Speaker 5: because he's done so many things the right way, and

1481
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 5: he's worked so hard, and uh, you know, it's just

1482
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 5: great to see guys breakthrough and become a champion for

1483
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 5: the first time. And you had a front row seat

1484
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 5: for us at doctor Kappadaglio if you want to follow

1485
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 5: this man's every move, And we appreciate your time here today, sir.

1486
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 5: Enjoy the fruits.

1487
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 2: Thank you, guys, have a good week and a good

1488
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 2: mom day.

1489
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Speaker 5: Thank you too. Miteo Cappadaglio with us here on the

1490
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Speaker 5: Anak and Florida podcast. All right, so yeah, I mean

1491
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Speaker 5: that at least suggests that there was a conversation about October, right,

1492
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Speaker 5: Kat Flow, I've made a man can dream. You just

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Speaker 5: Slash audio so ken Flow. We talked a little bit

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Speaker 5: about Larne Murphy and I'm glad that Ray brought up

1527
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 5: sort of the miles per hour in terms of that

1528
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 5: spinning elbow versus the spinning elbow landed by protests, right,

1529
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 5: because that's why I say la Rons was sort of

1530
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 5: the better knockout of the knockout of the year, right,

1531
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 5: but the protest knockout was absolutely unbelievable. And now he's

1532
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 5: going to fight in October in Rio de Janeiro. What

1533
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 5: a knockout for Carlos Protests. As we continue sort of

1534
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 5: recap at three nineteen here for a few.

1535
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 4: Not only was it an amazing knockout, I thought this

1536
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 4: was probably his best performance inside the octagon.

1537
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 3: He looked like he was firing on all cylinders.

1538
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 4: Sometimes he doesn't always get off to a great start,

1539
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 4: but here, man, he looked like he was on point

1540
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 4: and ready to rock from the get go, utilizing that

1541
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 4: length advantage extremely well, throwing a variety of weapons. Just

1542
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 4: his timing just seemed on Not everyone can do that,

1543
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 4: and I think Protest is getting better. He's maturing and

1544
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 4: continues to be an evolving problem for everyone in that

1545
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:02,839
Speaker 4: wealthyweight division.

1546
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 5: I did think was a little bit ironic, and I

1547
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 5: think my call reflected it that Jeff Neil talked all

1548
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 5: week about it being a one round fight, and I

1549
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 5: think part of that spoke to just the danger that

1550
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 5: the danger factor on the other side, but also just

1551
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 5: the way Jeff Neil was going to approach this matchup.

1552
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 5: And yeah, man, I just really believe in Carlos Protests.

1553
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 5: You know, he is equal parts violent and married to

1554
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 5: the game, and you know, the cigarettes is just like

1555
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 5: a side piece, you know. It really is just sort

1556
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 5: of a side thing, you know. I think he smokes

1557
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:38,799
Speaker 5: like ten a day, but he cuts down during training.

1558
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 5: But you know, nicotine can have some benefits as a

1559
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 5: drug for him. I really do believe that, you know,

1560
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,679
Speaker 5: So I don't worry about that. I know some people

1561
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,560
Speaker 5: are really put off by that, but Michael ven and

1562
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 5: Page beat Jared Kennedy rather impressively, and I wish I

1563
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 5: had my fighter car with me. But MVP says he

1564
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 5: likes to do things that surprise people, whether it's on

1565
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 5: a matchup against the physically opponent, opposing Jarret cannoneer, after

1566
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 5: beating sharl Bullet, or taking a bare knuckle fight back

1567
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 5: in the day, So it doesn't surprise me at all

1568
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 5: that he wants to pull one on people again and

1569
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:15,680
Speaker 5: go fight protests at seventy in Rio in less than

1570
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 5: eight weeks.

1571
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:20,599
Speaker 3: Yes, please, I would love to see that again. Very

1572
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:21,639
Speaker 3: similar to Protest.

1573
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 4: I thought MVP had his best performance inside the UFC's octagon.

1574
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:28,799
Speaker 3: That style that.

1575
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:31,679
Speaker 4: You know, WonderBoy of course, can can replicate a little

1576
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 4: bit as well, But to me, MVP is even more

1577
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 4: dangerous in that he's even longer hit that range. His

1578
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 4: ability to find it is phenomenal when he's at his best,

1579
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 4: and he looked like he was at his best now.

1580
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 4: The third round was not great because that you know,

1581
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 4: it's slip or takedown. He needs to really work on

1582
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 4: his grappling for sure, especially off of his back. However,

1583
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:55,759
Speaker 4: when his striking is on point, man, is he a problem?

1584
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:59,679
Speaker 4: And to think about him in practice? Two long, lanky,

1585
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 4: dagerous knockout artists in there together against each other, sign

1586
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 4: me up.

1587
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 5: It seemed like maybe Joe Rogan said as we were

1588
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:10,719
Speaker 5: decompressing that if he was Protest, you know, fighting Michael

1589
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 5: venam Page so soon, maybe isn't the best strategic decision

1590
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 5: career wise. Not that he doesn't think protests can win

1591
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 5: the fight, but you would want to try to bring

1592
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 5: and not that anyone can emulate MVP, but this is

1593
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:24,679
Speaker 5: somebody that you would seemingly want to have some time

1594
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 5: to prepare for. Not to say that Protest is meeting potatoes, right.

1595
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 5: I feel like this is the fight that's going to

1596
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 5: be made. But you know there's inherent risk, of course, no.

1597
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 4: Question about it. I mean, there's very few MVPs there's

1598
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 4: very few wonder boys. You need to find someone who

1599
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 4: comes from that point style karate background and get them

1600
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,639
Speaker 4: in their asap because the timing is different. The footwork

1601
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,599
Speaker 4: in particular is probably the most difficult thing to deal with,

1602
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 4: and you know they have their hands down, they're in

1603
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 4: that bladed stance and that is all kind of a ruse,

1604
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 4: a way to disguise that range that they're so good at.

1605
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:04,719
Speaker 4: So but again, I'm salivating thinking about that matchup.

1606
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 3: I hope we see it.

1607
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you're going to see it. I think

1608
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:09,679
Speaker 5: you're going to see it, and I'm excited to watch

1609
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,679
Speaker 5: it and witness it. It's amazing to think that Michael

1610
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 5: van Impage could be so relevant, maybe top seven or

1611
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 5: eight across two divisions. And you know, he said he

1612
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 5: has gotten a lot out of the sport. He's given

1613
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 5: a lot to the sport, but now what he really

1614
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 5: wants to get out of the sport is a UFC

1615
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 5: belt and he really is getting closer. It's just such

1616
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 5: an exciting time to be an MMA fan, and we

1617
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 5: congratulate hamsat CHIMAIV. I'm really happy for him, and you know,

1618
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 5: I'm not sure that collectively Dana White and I have

1619
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 5: superlatively talked about any fighter the way we've been talking

1620
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 5: about Chimayah for half a decade. And I'm watching all

1621
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 5: the promotion of that Chimaya fight, and I'm hearing all

1622
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 5: these things that I don't even remember saying over the years,

1623
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 5: but I guess some of them I do. And finally,

1624
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 5: because he's fighting for the belt, you get a chance

1625
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 5: to sort of repurpose these things, like, you know, have

1626
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:03,640
Speaker 5: you ever seen anything like this guy? Nothing like this

1627
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:06,759
Speaker 5: fucking guy, electrifying force. I'm like, you know, And finally

1628
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 5: he got his shot, and man did he barged through

1629
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 5: the door.

1630
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 4: I I had rarely seen you as excited about a fighter,

1631
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 4: a fighter's UFC debut that I can remember, going back

1632
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 4: all the way from the Humst fight, like You've been

1633
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,679
Speaker 4: on on the train for a while and talked about

1634
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 4: how special this guy is. Uh, And of course he

1635
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 4: you know, he went on to prove you right. But

1636
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 4: he is absolutely special. And to see what he's done

1637
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 4: in a relatively short amount of time, given the fact

1638
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 4: he hasn't had a ton of fights compared to some

1639
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 4: other guys, it's just amazing that this is this is

1640
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 4: what happens when you have those freakish athletes who are dedicated,

1641
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 4: who have the hunger, who have that tough upbringing or

1642
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 4: background and put it all together with technique to become

1643
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 4: a champion in this sport. So it's uh, it's great

1644
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:57,599
Speaker 4: to see men.

1645
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 5: So many layers and levels to Chimaya's wrestling. I I

1646
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 5: just can't wait to see what they do. Did they

1647
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:09,759
Speaker 5: Letty Mob, Bob and Bojallio marinate or did they strike

1648
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 5: for Deritdter. I think Anthony Fluffy Hernandez. I'm not sure

1649
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 5: he could leap frog Rind near de ridder right now,

1650
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 5: even though he was brought to Chicago. But you know

1651
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 5: the thing is de Ritter and Fluffy like they want

1652
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 5: it so bad like right now. So we'll see Abu

1653
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 5: Dhabi could get crazy folks. If not, it'll probably be

1654
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 5: next year because there's a television considerations as well. All right,

1655
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:33,919
Speaker 5: let us bring in our chief handicapper as we transition

1656
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 5: to the UFC's lot event Shina this weekend. Big On

1657
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 5: Brian Patrio is with us BP. Good to see you, buddy,

1658
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:40,599
Speaker 5: Blackhawks Jersey today.

1659
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 3: You know what you know?

1660
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 8: And I was in the city of Chicago this weekend.

1661
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 8: My hotel was righted by a black Hawks store. It's

1662
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,600
Speaker 8: one of the most it's one of the best logos

1663
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 8: in all sports. I got the Conna Bradarde shirt, you know,

1664
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 8: Rookie of the Year, Let's go. I wanted at Cellios

1665
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 8: because I grew up a hockey fan. I wanted Chris Cellio's.

1666
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 8: But it was only a Mitchell and Ness one that

1667
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 8: they had right and if I washed it, it would

1668
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 8: just ruined. They're not getting any more of my money.

1669
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 8: So we went fanatics here.

1670
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 5: So what was it like to be in the building

1671
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:11,599
Speaker 5: for this particular live event.

1672
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 3: It was amazing. It was great.

1673
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 8: You know, I was you know, I buy seats. You know,

1674
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 8: I'm a big dude, so I usually buy seats where

1675
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 8: I want to be on the end. And I got bamboozled.

1676
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 8: It looked like I was on the end on the

1677
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 8: on the Ticketmaster website.

1678
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:24,799
Speaker 3: I was not. I was next to somebody.

1679
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:27,559
Speaker 8: But she was one hundred pound woman from South Africa,

1680
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 8: so it wasn't too bad. She's very small. Her and

1681
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 8: her husband were there. They were lovely. The people to

1682
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 8: the other side of us, you know, we're saying some

1683
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:37,559
Speaker 8: very vulgar things that actually end up getting my wife

1684
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:40,599
Speaker 8: pretty upset. You know, things you should never shout and scream,

1685
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 8: and these were directed towards hans A CHAMAIAV, which was

1686
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 8: kind of annoying. But other than that phenomenal crowd, phenomenal event,

1687
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 8: I very very much enjoyed myself.

1688
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 5: You almost have to pull out the big guns or

1689
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 5: you're not trying to get a rest of Chicago.

1690
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 8: Well, so there was my section had a lot of

1691
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 8: you know, I guess, you know, Middle Eastern, very big

1692
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 8: tamayav supporters, and they all kind of were looking at him,

1693
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 8: and I think someone needed to be the sheriff. And

1694
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 8: since he was right next to me, I was like, dude,

1695
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 8: you gotta stop. Like I was polite, but you gotta stop.

1696
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 8: He's saying like vulgar racist things because.

1697
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:15,799
Speaker 3: He's like I paid a lot of money for the seat.

1698
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 8: And it's like, buddy, shut the up, right, I Jay

1699
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:24,719
Speaker 8: Glazer right behind me in the box seat, fucking staring

1700
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 8: this guy, like, dude, shut up. It was so bad,

1701
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 8: But other than that amazing crowd, amazing event.

1702
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 5: All right, let us spin it forward UFC fight night

1703
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 5: Walker versus Jong. It's hard to come down from these

1704
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 5: pay per views. I was up all night, and not

1705
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:42,639
Speaker 5: just because my Deep Dish pizza never got delivered, right,

1706
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 5: I meanub grub hub cancel my order at two fifteen. Anyway,

1707
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 5: we're going to spin it forward. We have one preliminary

1708
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 5: selection and then I think four main card picks. It

1709
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 5: is UFC fight Night Walker versus Jeong, and we'll start

1710
01:21:56,560 --> 01:22:00,600
Speaker 5: in the flyweight division. London's Lonnie Kavanaughs minus two h

1711
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 5: five against Charles Johnson plus one seventy Kevin on nine

1712
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 5: to zero after unanimous decision. Wins across his first two

1713
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 5: UFC starts at now at twenty six bride he draws.

1714
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:13,759
Speaker 5: They previously ranked Charles Johnson as he advised to stay undefeated.

1715
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 5: What are we thinking here? Man?

1716
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:18,680
Speaker 8: Every capper that is in my position is looking at

1717
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 8: O the chops, at Charles Johnson on plus money.

1718
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 3: I mean, how could you not be right?

1719
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 8: Kavanaugh up and coming guy, very good but unproven, look

1720
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 8: good at the contended series. Has a good win against Ochoa,

1721
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 8: who proved to be a legit beast. But they've been

1722
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 8: a little underwhelming, you know, I know he's still growing,

1723
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 8: he's still greened. And Charles Johnson's got a winner for

1724
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 8: Josh road Man now only just a winner for dress Rainie,

1725
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 8: not Jeus. Ro Man out a little up and down,

1726
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 8: but if you look at his record, he's only losing

1727
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 8: to like the stud rapplers, guys, you just want to

1728
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:47,559
Speaker 8: take him down over and over again.

1729
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 3: His get up game's pretty good.

1730
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 8: Mean debut in the UFC against Mohammed Makayev, who took

1731
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 8: him down twelve times. He got up thirteen times. Right,

1732
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:56,599
Speaker 8: the guys get up games decent. His stand up's good.

1733
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:58,679
Speaker 8: His volume can be there when he's on.

1734
01:22:59,160 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 3: He's got that.

1735
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 8: Kind of awkward not quite timy Elliot's style, but it's

1736
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 8: very unique, different angles, and I kind of like that.

1737
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 8: And Kavanaugh wants to be a striker, he's not a grappler.

1738
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 8: I think that bodes well for Charles Johnson. So even

1739
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:14,640
Speaker 8: though he is the underdog, I feel like this is

1740
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 8: going to be a very square pick this week. I

1741
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:17,600
Speaker 8: feel like a lot of people are gonna be on

1742
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 8: the side. The money will come down, so we'll get

1743
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 8: your bets in early. But I like Chris Johnson old

1744
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,640
Speaker 8: CJ here plus one plus one one seventy here the

1745
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:29,640
Speaker 8: Scullt's gonna ring victoriously. I think probably by decision, but

1746
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 8: it can get crazy. At one twenty five.

1747
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 5: Can't follow Charles Johnson saw Ramazan Tamirov and his winning

1748
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:38,639
Speaker 5: streak at four another pretty tough matchup for the Pride

1749
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 5: of Saint Louis. The thirty four year old Charles Johnson

1750
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 5: plus one seventy right now on DraftKings Sportsbook.

1751
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 4: I can see why Brian's going the way of Charles Johnson.

1752
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 4: I think, you know, his length is striking, and what

1753
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:52,959
Speaker 4: he's done in the UFC is extremely impressive.

1754
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:55,560
Speaker 3: I think he's a really really good fighter.

1755
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 4: But every once in a while, you see someone fight

1756
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 4: and you see something special. And I see something special

1757
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 4: in Kavanaugh.

1758
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 5: I really do.

1759
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 3: I think he's a little different, you know.

1760
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 4: I see a striker that is ahead of the game

1761
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:12,759
Speaker 4: right now.

1762
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 3: And people will look at the knockouts.

1763
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 4: I'm looking at the way that he's knocking people out,

1764
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 4: the little angles, the little detailed, the little things, the speed.

1765
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 4: I think he's different, dude. I think Kavanaugh is the

1766
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 4: favorite for a reason. And yeah, I like this dude.

1767
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 4: I think this guy could be a manion to sport

1768
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 4: as well. I think he's actually that good.

1769
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1770
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 5: Wait, to see it now and I'm glad we picked it.

1771
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:42,679
Speaker 5: Brings to the main card six am Eastern on ESPN

1772
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 5: plus on the Flyway Division, Suma Dargie minus one sixty two,

1773
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 5: Kevin borhas plus one thirty six. Borhas twenty seven out

1774
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 5: of pedu. I mean, what else needs to be say?

1775
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 5: He did have a big win over Ronado Rodriguez back

1776
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 5: in March, going for two straight here and as the

1777
01:24:58,200 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 5: underdog once again, Brian, what do you think about that?

1778
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 11: Five?

1779
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:04,639
Speaker 8: Well, I'm second guests in my last pick after Kenny

1780
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 8: Fornian put his stamp on Kavanaugh, I tell you what,

1781
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 8: goll lee Uh, this fight reminds me it's gonna be

1782
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 8: It's gonna be.

1783
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:11,680
Speaker 3: A stand up fight.

1784
01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 8: I think both guys want to stand up. Su Majari.

1785
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 8: All his losses come from just guys taking them ount

1786
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 8: submitting them. Like this dude just wants to stand up

1787
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 8: the Tibetan eagle baby. He wants to throw, and Borjas

1788
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 8: is going to oblige. He is going to throw as well.

1789
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 8: I think Borhos needs to mix some takedowns. He can't

1790
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 8: do that a little bit. But he's not like a

1791
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 8: super high level wrestler.

1792
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 3: But he is young.

1793
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:32,640
Speaker 8: Mixing in Peru is hot. Right now, they're bubbling. They

1794
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 8: got some guys we don't even know about. They're gonna

1795
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 8: come up and they all are gonna they're gonna take over,

1796
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:40,640
Speaker 8: you know. In my opinion, uh I just don't know

1797
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:42,719
Speaker 8: Borhos is gonna take over in this fight. The plus

1798
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 8: money's great. I'm thinking Kenny might lean his Pervian brother here.

1799
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,560
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go su Majori. I think su Majori a

1800
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:51,559
Speaker 8: little bit longer, a little bit more tenacious with his strikes.

1801
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 8: I think has a little bit more of a power

1802
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 8: edge as well, even though Borhos has proved to have

1803
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 8: an insane chin like most Previum fighters. But uh, I

1804
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 8: like Sumajari here the slight mindus money. We got to

1805
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 8: work with you on that Sumu dargy. You just there's

1806
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 8: no d in there.

1807
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 5: I let it go the first two times he said,

1808
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:14,680
Speaker 5: Sumu jari or whatever it is, Okay, su Mu dargy.

1809
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:23,520
Speaker 8: Summer dogy, that's time, Suma dargy smudgy.

1810
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:26,599
Speaker 3: Okay. I'll never make that mistake again.

1811
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 5: No, I mean I actually think it's no. I think

1812
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 5: it's actually endearing, especially that last that last one was.

1813
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 8: I'll tell you what I thought. I was about to

1814
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 8: pronounce the names. Hearing some of the people around me

1815
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 8: pronouncing the fighters name is like, geez, have you ever

1816
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:41,479
Speaker 8: seen a fight before?

1817
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:41,680
Speaker 3: Bro?

1818
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 5: All right, well, COM's not you Maya's right hand man

1819
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 5: by some gore Suster Kayev who won this week right.

1820
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 5: I must have said that one hundred times before I

1821
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 5: got you know Whoa.

1822
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 8: I'm not he did the chance, He goes, Hey, Dan,

1823
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 8: you can't say my name. Let's let's chant it together.

1824
01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 8: I wasn't on that, Jane.

1825
01:26:58,400 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 5: I like that. I mean, you don't have any times

1826
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 5: I've been forced in my career to say and spell

1827
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:03,560
Speaker 5: mikal Olekshagic.

1828
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 3: At this point, I can do that one.

1829
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 5: But so all right, So the guy Brian real quick

1830
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 5: who's fighting Kevin Borhas this weekend. What's his name, Sumu Dargy, Yeah,

1831
01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 5: broiled it. Look at the American Brian Patrick getting it done. Hey, Kenny,

1832
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:24,640
Speaker 5: we need a prediction on this one. Summu Darji defeated you,

1833
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:26,679
Speaker 5: buddy Mitch Roposo last time out, but he has lost

1834
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:29,040
Speaker 5: three or four. You like the provi and obviously yes

1835
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 5: I do.

1836
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 3: I do?

1837
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:30,720
Speaker 5: You know?

1838
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 4: Listen, I'm impressed with Subadarji. You know the fact that

1839
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 4: you know he's got one name, you know, Bob sing

1840
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 4: These are you know, these are the guys that you know.

1841
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:41,839
Speaker 4: You really, it's impressive. Not a whole lot of people

1842
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 4: just have one freaking name.

1843
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 5: Fucking no, Ma, right, no.

1844
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 3: Ma, you know what I mean. But uh, Kevin Borhase,

1845
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:49,680
Speaker 3: he's from Proved. That's all you need to know. I

1846
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:51,720
Speaker 3: don't even look at the odds. Who is he fighting? No,

1847
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 3: he's fighting the proving guy.

1848
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1849
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 4: I like the proving guy. I don't know what he does,

1850
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 4: but I like the proving guy. He throws punches and

1851
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:02,560
Speaker 4: ship and I think it's gonna be interesting. Give me

1852
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:05,599
Speaker 4: Kevin Borjas. I think this is a dangerous flight because

1853
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 4: Kevin does like the stand up right. Like Brian said,

1854
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:10,679
Speaker 4: Subadarji is a problem on the feed. He's really fluid.

1855
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 4: I think it's going to be exciting as hell while

1856
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:13,839
Speaker 4: it lasts.

1857
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:18,680
Speaker 5: So our next heavyweight matchup or our next matchup, I

1858
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 5: should say, at heavyweight on the main card. If I

1859
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:23,599
Speaker 5: was writing copy for this, I mean, the baseball analogy

1860
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 5: just does itself right. You got the power pitcher versus

1861
01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 5: the power hitter. Sergey Pavlovich minus two forty five Waldo

1862
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:33,640
Speaker 5: Cortez Acosta plus two hundred. So Pavlovich, you guys know

1863
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 5: the book on him. I mean he was patient, certainly

1864
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:38,600
Speaker 5: in a February win over Chargenio Rosenstrike. But he is

1865
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 5: a power force with his hands, like few guys in

1866
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:46,520
Speaker 5: that heavyweight division, but the Dominican Republics. Waldo Cortez Acosta

1867
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:48,680
Speaker 5: threw a baseball at one hundred miles per hour one

1868
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 5: times in his life. He was in the Cincinnati Red system.

1869
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 5: He's got a shit ton of UFC momentum. So you

1870
01:28:54,280 --> 01:29:00,599
Speaker 5: got the power pitcher cortez Acosta versus the cleanup hitter BP.

1871
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 5: Which way you going?

1872
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm going to the four hole here, I'm going

1873
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:07,280
Speaker 8: I'm going the cleanup he here? Uh, I like a Costa.

1874
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 8: I like what he did against Spivoc. I thought that

1875
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 8: was he's the picture. No, no, no, I know I'm taking them.

1876
01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 8: I'm taking the clean up here taking but I was

1877
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 8: gonna give you, I was gonna get some fuck.

1878
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 3: I'm shoting here.

1879
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:23,559
Speaker 8: But no, he looked really good against Spivoc and and

1880
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:26,679
Speaker 8: that was a tough matchup for him because Spibok's really

1881
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 8: game game plan is to get you down, and that's

1882
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:30,479
Speaker 8: what it cost. I was like, oh, can he stopped Takowns.

1883
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:32,719
Speaker 8: His athleticism was off the charging land at one hundred

1884
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 8: and ten strikes. The only thing he didn't do right

1885
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 8: in that fight he didn't knock him out. But oh well,

1886
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 8: you know that's gonna happen sometimes. But he looked phenomenal

1887
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:40,799
Speaker 8: and he's on his great streak right now, and he's confident.

1888
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 8: He's sauten in there a little, but he's got some

1889
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:46,400
Speaker 8: swag to him. The Padlovich, this big Russian polar bear.

1890
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:49,720
Speaker 8: This motherfucker just still cracks. Even though his last fight

1891
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 8: against Rosenstrock, I think he got a little complacent in

1892
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 8: training because the Volcal fight wasn't a great performance from him.

1893
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:57,679
Speaker 3: He was very uh you know, they.

1894
01:29:57,600 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 8: Were former trading partners. He was mad at the end

1895
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:01,680
Speaker 8: of the he pushed him away. I think he was

1896
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 8: more mad at himself. He was a step behind the

1897
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 8: entire fight. And then the Rosa Stark fight, he mixes

1898
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 8: some takedowns. He's like, well, I can take people down.

1899
01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:11,000
Speaker 8: I'm a big, strong, fucking dude. But he still has

1900
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 8: that one hitter power. So like Frank Thomas who steps

1901
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 8: into that four hole and sends it over the fence.

1902
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:21,640
Speaker 8: I'm going to Russian bear here in Sergeya Palovich. I

1903
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 8: think he finds Acosta. But listen, earlier, when this fight

1904
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 8: he goet announced I was all over polotics. Now I'm

1905
01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 8: starting to doubt. At plus two hundred and oar Costa's

1906
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 8: name on the heavyweight fight is not bad price. It's

1907
01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 8: not bad money. And if I was a smarter man,

1908
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:35,439
Speaker 8: maybe I chased that to try to catch Kenny. But

1909
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 8: I just like Palovich a little bit too much in

1910
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:40,320
Speaker 8: the spot here, and I like his power and overall game.

1911
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:45,640
Speaker 5: Kenny Waldo Cortez Acosta is a pretty fascinating story. I

1912
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:47,840
Speaker 5: really enjoyed being able to spend a little time with

1913
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 5: him before his last win. He hasn't faced a power

1914
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:55,280
Speaker 5: hitter like this in the UFC. As such, I think

1915
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 5: the matchmaking is really perfect. Who do you like here

1916
01:30:58,040 --> 01:30:58,599
Speaker 5: at heavyweight?

1917
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard to tell how these guys are going

1918
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 4: to approach this fight. You know, if they go out

1919
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 4: there and fight their normal selves, someone's getting knocked out.

1920
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 4: Like someone's going to get knocked out. This won't go

1921
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 4: the distance. But sometimes you respect a guy a little

1922
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 4: bit too much because that guy across from you, you

1923
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 4: know he can knock you out.

1924
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:19,720
Speaker 3: And and I don't know.

1925
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 4: And again, given the fact that Sergei's last fight, maybe

1926
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 4: he didn't step on the gas so much. Maybe he

1927
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:28,799
Speaker 4: has that same approach. But now who would I favor

1928
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 4: if that does happen. I'm gonna favorite Pablovich, but I

1929
01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 4: definitely know that Waldo Kortez Acosta can can knock out

1930
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 4: Pavolovich as well, So they're both going to have to

1931
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:42,519
Speaker 4: mind their p's and qes. I'm leaning the way of

1932
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 4: the Russian, but I'll tell you right now, I'm not

1933
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 4: gonna put money on this one because how many times

1934
01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 4: have we put money on a heavyweight fighter both too

1935
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 4: knockout artists. It's too risky for me. Yeah, so yeah,

1936
01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 4: and especially given the odds, But I am going to

1937
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:56,040
Speaker 4: go with Paplovich.

1938
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:58,679
Speaker 5: I got a buddy who's just so excited to wake

1939
01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 5: up and have a'm hitting a cup of coffee and

1940
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 5: watch Sergei Pavlovic throw hands at like seven o'clock in

1941
01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 5: the morning. Co Maine event will lead with Ken Flow

1942
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 5: on this in the featherweight division al Jabin Sterling minus

1943
01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 5: two forty five Bryan or Taga plus two hundred. UFC

1944
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 5: records are pretty interesting here Aljo sixteen and five or

1945
01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:20,440
Speaker 5: Taga nine and four. Big discrepancy in UFC winning percentage.

1946
01:32:20,479 --> 01:32:23,599
Speaker 5: Of course, two of Ortega's losses are an undisputed featherweight

1947
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 5: championship fights twenty second UFC star though for the former

1948
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 5: UFC Panamwait champs Sterling one and one Kenny and his

1949
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:33,479
Speaker 5: two UFC featherweight fights last year, and now facing one

1950
01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:36,960
Speaker 5: of this division's tried and true best in Brian t

1951
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:39,400
Speaker 5: city or Tega. We got a great co Maine event

1952
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 5: and fight cards suggest we're scheduled for five to five

1953
01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:42,840
Speaker 5: minute rounds.

1954
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was just gonna say, John, I don't know

1955
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:46,160
Speaker 3: if you knew, but it's a five fight.

1956
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:47,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1957
01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 3: I just wanted to bring that to people's attention. Okay,

1958
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:51,639
Speaker 3: I really like this fight.

1959
01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:53,439
Speaker 4: For me, this is the main event, and I love

1960
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:55,559
Speaker 4: this fight and I hate this fight. I love this

1961
01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 4: fight because these are two highly talented groppers going at it,

1962
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:02,720
Speaker 4: and I hope we see some amazing grappling exchanges.

1963
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:03,599
Speaker 3: I think we will.

1964
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:08,559
Speaker 4: Ortega is more of the submission hunter and Aljamin Sterling

1965
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:12,600
Speaker 4: more positionally sound. So how that plays out, I don't know,

1966
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:15,800
Speaker 4: but it could go a bunch of different ways. On

1967
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:18,640
Speaker 4: the feet, Sterling very unorthodox. Ortega has more of a

1968
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:21,639
Speaker 4: boxing approach, is mixing it up a lot better now.

1969
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:22,600
Speaker 3: You know.

1970
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:25,840
Speaker 4: Defensively he can get hit, but man, that guy's chin

1971
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:31,080
Speaker 4: is legendary. His toughness is legendary. And when things get tough,

1972
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 4: you know, I think Ortega is still going to be

1973
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 4: there trying to hunt down a submission or a knockout.

1974
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:39,840
Speaker 4: But Sterling is so smart. He knows how to bring

1975
01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 4: the fight into his realm repeatedly. He knows how to

1976
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:47,760
Speaker 4: stay safe defensively, and for that reason and all the

1977
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:52,560
Speaker 4: championship experience that he has, I like Sterling in this one.

1978
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 4: I really like both these guys. That's why I don't

1979
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:56,800
Speaker 4: really love this fight. I don't want to see either

1980
01:33:56,840 --> 01:33:59,839
Speaker 4: of these guys lose. But I think al Jamaine Sterling

1981
01:33:59,880 --> 01:34:03,840
Speaker 4: is probably the more consistent competitor and has some big

1982
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:05,720
Speaker 4: time experience, so I'm going to go the way of

1983
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 4: al Jo here.

1984
01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 3: But this should be a really fun fight.

1985
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:10,720
Speaker 5: Brian, when I sent you guys the odds last night

1986
01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 5: Alchia man Sterling was minus two forty five, ant City

1987
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:17,559
Speaker 5: plus two hundred. Now it's al Joe minus two eighty

1988
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 5: five and Brian o'or take a plus two thirty. So

1989
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 5: money seemingly coming in on al Jo. How do you

1990
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:24,680
Speaker 5: see the comin event plan out?

1991
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 8: Yeah, I might have moved that line, so I put

1992
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:28,760
Speaker 8: two hundred on them right before we got in here.

1993
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:29,880
Speaker 3: Ken, you likes Aljo.

1994
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 8: I love Aljoe in this spot, and I was kidding

1995
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 8: about moving the line. I know Verry kappers are very

1996
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:35,960
Speaker 8: sensitive about that. I know my two hundred dollars that

1997
01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 8: move line. Guys, pipe down, listen. I like al Joe

1998
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 8: in this spot big. I think his wrestling, you know,

1999
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 8: the grappling. Both guys grapplings are really really good, but

2000
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:47,599
Speaker 8: I think his wrestling is the edge here. The Evil

2001
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:50,160
Speaker 8: Off fight was super close. It was is a matter

2002
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 8: of positions. They didn't strike a lot, and Evil have

2003
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:54,600
Speaker 8: A is a fucking beast in there. I didn't know

2004
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 8: how I would like Aljo forty five. I think this

2005
01:34:56,600 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 8: is going to be a really good test. I think

2006
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 8: or Brian t City is he's a decent size forty

2007
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:03,160
Speaker 8: five years long for the division and if they strike.

2008
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:04,200
Speaker 3: I like al Jo too.

2009
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:08,599
Speaker 8: He's awkward, he's everything's almost like Jekis duplus he's off rhythm,

2010
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:10,320
Speaker 8: it's offbeat, it's different.

2011
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 3: And Ortega is primarily a boxer.

2012
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:15,439
Speaker 8: I think Aljo's got great kicks, great movements, gets his

2013
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 8: head out of the way, and if things get hairy,

2014
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:19,680
Speaker 8: he always can dip down and uses wrestling, and I

2015
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 8: don't really think a lot of people engage a ton

2016
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 8: in Brian Ortega's wrestling, you know, grappling. Aljo's going to

2017
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:27,720
Speaker 8: do that. And I'm really curious to see if al

2018
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 8: Jo gets a back, you know, because if he gets back,

2019
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:33,439
Speaker 8: it's a rap rop that's literally what Aljo says. That's

2020
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 8: interesting here, So I might even play. We'll see what

2021
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:38,760
Speaker 8: DK opens it up as Aljoe by submission might be

2022
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 8: something I'm interested in because I do think he can

2023
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:43,400
Speaker 8: get his back and we'll see how that goes.

2024
01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:45,120
Speaker 3: But I love Aljo in the spot.

2025
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:47,639
Speaker 5: First appearance for or Tegas since he lost to Diego

2026
01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:52,439
Speaker 5: Lopez at Sphere last year. Ortega is still just thirty four,

2027
01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 5: Aljo thirty six, sterling getting married October fifth. You know,

2028
01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 5: he'd like nothing more than to go into that wedding

2029
01:35:57,760 --> 01:35:59,840
Speaker 5: with a green stripe on that Wikipedia page. All right,

2030
01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:02,920
Speaker 5: event in the light heavyweight division, cheal Ming y'all minus

2031
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:06,519
Speaker 5: three seventy five Johnny Walker plus two ninety five. So Brian,

2032
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:09,400
Speaker 5: perhaps we will see to some degree here the extent

2033
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:11,680
Speaker 5: to which the UFC has something in Jan Mgyong. He's

2034
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:14,679
Speaker 5: still a young man, he's twenty seven years of age,

2035
01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:16,400
Speaker 5: but how does he handle the main event spotlight right

2036
01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:18,360
Speaker 5: nineteen and six as a pro. But you guys know

2037
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:22,640
Speaker 5: nineteen finishes all in round one, three and zero in

2038
01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:25,880
Speaker 5: the UFC. Last win over Anthony Smith was back in April,

2039
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 5: another first round stoppage. He has been stopped in a

2040
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:30,599
Speaker 5: lot of his losses. What do we make of Jean

2041
01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:33,400
Speaker 5: Migyong and this particular challenge Brian against Johnny Walker.

2042
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:34,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that you hit it on the head.

2043
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 8: I was, you know when you look at this in

2044
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:39,240
Speaker 8: you know Johnny Walker has six knockout losses in his

2045
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:42,719
Speaker 8: career and and Mi Young is is this.

2046
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:44,880
Speaker 3: Just absolute powerhouse?

2047
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:45,240
Speaker 2: Right?

2048
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 3: And you're like, oh, this is easy.

2049
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:49,800
Speaker 8: This is this is Johnny Walker first round get getting

2050
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:51,040
Speaker 8: ko first run by mean Young.

2051
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 3: But man, that's scary.

2052
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:55,599
Speaker 8: That is scary because Johnny Walker is also a guy

2053
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 8: that can knock some people out. He has power, even

2054
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:01,000
Speaker 8: though he will get put out. He has big power.

2055
01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:04,120
Speaker 8: He's six six or two oh five. He's a big dude.

2056
01:37:04,479 --> 01:37:08,719
Speaker 8: He lands something crazy, a flying knee, a crazy spending anything.

2057
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:11,800
Speaker 8: We can see anything happen. And you know, China is

2058
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 8: gonna just deflate because this is their guy. He You know,

2059
01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:16,960
Speaker 8: I think Aldro should be the mad event, but this

2060
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:19,040
Speaker 8: is their guy. This is who they're getting. We're seeing it.

2061
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:22,360
Speaker 8: But I can't get there on Johnny Walker. You know,

2062
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:24,360
Speaker 8: he had my money too many times in the past.

2063
01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:26,960
Speaker 8: I can't give it to him. I think Meengong is

2064
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 8: an absolute stud I do think his boxing is phenomenal.

2065
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:32,840
Speaker 8: I think his chin early in his career. I think

2066
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:34,479
Speaker 8: a lot of some of the performances I saw, I

2067
01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:36,160
Speaker 8: think a lot of it was just really bad defense.

2068
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:39,000
Speaker 8: You got to tighten you tighten that up, you know.

2069
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:41,320
Speaker 8: And I think you're gonna be okay here and just

2070
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:44,400
Speaker 8: mind your piece of cues against crazy old Johnny Walker. Yeah,

2071
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:46,280
Speaker 8: and I think you'll be all right. But yeah, give

2072
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:47,679
Speaker 8: me a give me me yan.

2073
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:50,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, Johnny Walker. Kenny has not been reliable at the window.

2074
01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:53,320
Speaker 5: He's cashed on fifty percent of tickets in his UFC

2075
01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:56,799
Speaker 5: career seven and six, with a no contest in the octagon,

2076
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:59,680
Speaker 5: last win against lionheard more than two years ago. I

2077
01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:02,920
Speaker 5: guess when he's really needed a win. With two straight

2078
01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:05,040
Speaker 5: losses a show in his career he has produced and

2079
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:07,360
Speaker 5: Uh try to do so again here plus two ninety

2080
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:09,160
Speaker 5: five against John Migyong can't flow. Who do you like

2081
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:10,040
Speaker 5: in the headline the act?

2082
01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, Johnny Walk, Johnny Walk. He's very big a guy,

2083
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:22,200
Speaker 4: very powerful guy. Gucca Diamon, very dangerous botch this Chinese guy.

2084
01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:27,840
Speaker 3: Man, he's very good. No, listen, Johnny is dangerous man.

2085
01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:28,639
Speaker 3: He is big.

2086
01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 4: But I can't get over that chin up in the air, Dude.

2087
01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:34,519
Speaker 4: If that chin is up in the air, which is

2088
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:38,360
Speaker 4: a really hard habit to break. I just think that

2089
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 4: Min Yong's gonna find that chin, and if he does,

2090
01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:42,839
Speaker 4: I think he's putting Johnny Walker asleep.

2091
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:44,720
Speaker 3: Can't Johnny Walker knock him out?

2092
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:44,960
Speaker 10: Yeah?

2093
01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:45,640
Speaker 3: Absolutely?

2094
01:38:45,960 --> 01:38:47,760
Speaker 4: I think Johnny Walker needs to take this fight to

2095
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:50,799
Speaker 4: the ground if he can, you know, try to put

2096
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:54,040
Speaker 4: Uh Minyong on his back and and and win the fight.

2097
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:55,840
Speaker 4: Maybe just with ground and pound or maybe you get

2098
01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:57,680
Speaker 4: to try to get a submission, but not going.

2099
01:38:57,680 --> 01:38:58,240
Speaker 3: To be easy.

2100
01:38:58,680 --> 01:39:01,360
Speaker 4: Jean Minyong is a excellent athlete as well. He's not

2101
01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:05,479
Speaker 4: easy to take down, but I think he throws strikes

2102
01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:07,640
Speaker 4: from angles that are that are just hard to replicate.

2103
01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:09,800
Speaker 4: I think he's going to be the faster guy. So

2104
01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:11,400
Speaker 4: give me Jong Ming Young.

2105
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:14,559
Speaker 5: Nicely done, gentleman. As always, BP will let you go

2106
01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:16,639
Speaker 5: unless you got a parting shot. I will just leave

2107
01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:19,679
Speaker 5: you with this man. Chicago had her makeup on this weekend,

2108
01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:21,320
Speaker 5: right high heels. She looked fucking great.

2109
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:23,479
Speaker 8: Sure did are we? Are we placing bets?

2110
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:25,720
Speaker 5: Or oh yeah, place your bets? Sorry, sorry, I just

2111
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:27,240
Speaker 5: got a little bit ahead of it. I was so

2112
01:39:27,400 --> 01:39:29,479
Speaker 5: excited to ask you about Chicago.

2113
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:32,040
Speaker 4: I don't want to see your faces anymore.

2114
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:35,160
Speaker 3: Fuck out here, I'm talking about again.

2115
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:38,920
Speaker 5: So I was so excited to promote the MMA Takes podcast,

2116
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:41,840
Speaker 5: but wanted to talk about Chicago wearing her makeup and

2117
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:44,200
Speaker 5: heels that I forgot that you guys have a thousand

2118
01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 5: dollars to spend on this less consequential card than we

2119
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:50,799
Speaker 5: saw at UFC three nineteen, So thousand bucks to spend.

2120
01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:54,040
Speaker 5: Bry I am apologetic for getting ahead of myself. How

2121
01:39:54,040 --> 01:39:57,320
Speaker 5: you spend your band here for UFC fight night Walker

2122
01:39:57,400 --> 01:39:58,479
Speaker 5: v Jean.

2123
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:01,519
Speaker 8: Listen, if I had a lead, I would have skipped

2124
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:03,280
Speaker 8: it too. But I need the money, John, I need

2125
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:05,880
Speaker 8: to come back here, So listen. I got absolutely towards

2126
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:07,880
Speaker 8: last week. I did some exotics, I did some things.

2127
01:40:07,880 --> 01:40:09,200
Speaker 8: You know, that's just not the way I played. But

2128
01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:11,200
Speaker 8: you know we're down three grand on top of a

2129
01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:13,679
Speaker 8: billion dollars. But I'm gonna do three play. I'm gonna

2130
01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:15,479
Speaker 8: do two bets. Excuse me, I'm gonna do a parlay.

2131
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 8: We're gonna go Minyong, We're gonna go Sterling, and we're

2132
01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:18,840
Speaker 8: gonna go Pablo.

2133
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:19,080
Speaker 3: Bitch.

2134
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:22,599
Speaker 8: That's plus one p forty nine currently on DraftKings. Give

2135
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:25,960
Speaker 8: me nine hundred for that. And then, just because I

2136
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 8: got a gut feeling, give me al Joe buy submission

2137
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:32,400
Speaker 8: for one hundred dollars, which hopefully will be some beautiful

2138
01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:33,320
Speaker 8: plus money.

2139
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:35,960
Speaker 5: Nicely laid out. I like the way you attacked the

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Speaker 5: board there, Ken Flow. Now it's up to you, my man.

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Speaker 5: Now it's up to you. Who do we like this weekend?

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Speaker 5: And how are you spending your g BP?

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Speaker 3: I like that play.

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Speaker 2: Dude.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I'm gonna keep it simple here.

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Speaker 4: I'm going five hundred dollars on Kavanaugh and five hundred

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Speaker 4: dollars on MiG young Man.

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Speaker 3: I love that you loved a couple.

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Speaker 5: Of straight wagers. We'll see, Uh, we'll see if Lonnie

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Speaker 5: Kavanaugh is indeed the goods Brian, before I let you go, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: how about Chicago putting on a fucking makeup? Huh?

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Speaker 3: Gorgeous city, Yeah, gorgeous city.

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Speaker 5: All right, have a great weekend. We'll talk to you

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Speaker 5: next Monday. Thank you, Brian Petree with us every week

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Speaker 5: here on the Anak and Florian Podcast. Thank you to

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Speaker 5: Ray Longo, Thanks to BP, Thanks to Doctor Mateo, Capa

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Speaker 5: dag Leo, Thanks to our producer Cody Merril, thanks to

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Speaker 5: Jason Anak. Thanks to Chicago for just making a kid

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Speaker 5: from Boston feel so welcome. Just amazing to connect with

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Speaker 5: so many fans. And thanks to my new best friend,

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Speaker 5: Celtics head coach Joe Missoula. We got to spend some

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Speaker 5: time with the head coach on Saturday and got to

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Speaker 5: see him toss Balah Muhammad in the air. One takeaway

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Speaker 5: from that particular session Bealal is so strong like his

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Speaker 5: quads have quads. He is an absolute monster and he

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Speaker 5: wants to fight in November. We'll see if there's a

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Speaker 5: elite welterweight in his bracket come the second week of November.

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Speaker 5: Madison Square Garden. All right, thank you all for being here.

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Speaker 5: Right back with you Monday. Don't forget the early start

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Speaker 5: for China on Saturday, and we look forward to talking

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Speaker 5: to me then. For Kemp Plum, John An, thank you

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Speaker 5: all for being here until next week.

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Speaker 3: He yo later, Kenny Floydan, I got it, baby, we

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Speaker 3: did