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Speaker 1: Seaton will have the pull question coming up. Watched some
Speaker 1: mack football last night. It's maction. It's awesome. I got
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Speaker 1: ball State Toledo. It was fun. More maction coming up tonight.
Speaker 1: College basketball watched that as well. Whenever we look at
Speaker 1: big time programs, elite programs, Kentucky, Duke, Kansas, they're usually
Speaker 1: there right and they should be, but then there's Michigan State.
Speaker 1: Every year it feels like, around I don't know, March,
Speaker 1: we go well, Michigan State, they're pretty good now that
Speaker 1: coach is pretty good. They don't go away. And then
Speaker 1: watching last night, it was like, okay, regulation overtime, okay,
Speaker 1: double overtime, Michigan State's not ranked, Kentucky ranked number four
Speaker 1: in the country, and then all of a sudden, Sparty
Speaker 1: gets the win. Michigan State not ranked, they lost to
Speaker 1: Gonzaga by one, and then you beat Kentucky. I guess
Speaker 1: file it away of oh yeah, Michigan State because I
Speaker 1: don't know if they have a good team. It always
Speaker 1: feels like tom Izzo gets two, three and four star recruits.
Speaker 1: He didn't get five stars. He was in on Emani
Speaker 1: Bates because he was supposed to be the guy. And
Speaker 1: we'll see if that ever happens with him who went
Speaker 1: to Memphis. I think he's now at Eastern Michigan. But
Speaker 1: tom Izzo just sort of gets those guys that fall
Speaker 1: between the cracks there and last night picking up a
Speaker 1: win against Kentucky. It's fun. A lot of times we
Speaker 1: forget what happens at the beginning of the year. When
Speaker 1: you start to look at a team, you're looking at
Speaker 1: how they play at the end of the year. I'm
Speaker 1: just going to remember this that they went toe to
Speaker 1: toe with Gonzaga and they beat Kentucky. No matter how
Speaker 1: good they are at the end of the year, you
Speaker 1: have to file that away. And when it comes to coaching,
Speaker 1: Tom Izzo's on the short list of coach you don't
Speaker 1: want to phase. Come March Madness. All right, Seeton, you
Speaker 1: got a pull question for me today? Alrighty, who gets
Speaker 1: into the college football playoff an undefeated TCU or a
Speaker 1: one lost Tennessee. I'm gonna say a one lost tennis thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, TCU has Baylor coming up this weekend,
Speaker 1: and what are they a two and a half point
Speaker 1: favorite here? They were an underdog against Texas. They did
Speaker 1: beat Texas, shaky. It's weird how Vegas doesn't you know,
Speaker 1: they don't have any favoritism here. They just look at
Speaker 1: what's the game going to be? How's this going to
Speaker 1: play out. TCU favored by two and a half, and
Speaker 1: that's at Baylor. College football has a way of sorting
Speaker 1: itself out where you go, wow, do they want that
Speaker 1: team in there? I don't think they want TCU in there.
Speaker 1: Great story, done, well done, everything that you want. We
Speaker 1: love an dog in college football. You like an underdog
Speaker 1: for a little while. It's like March Madness, Oh Man,
Speaker 1: George Mason, They're awesome, Butler, we love them, and then
Speaker 1: you go, yeah, but we don't want them to play
Speaker 1: for a national title. We want the blue bloods to
Speaker 1: come in. That's sort of the way we are with
Speaker 1: college football. When we go to twelve teams, then you're
Speaker 1: going to have one or two of those outliers. Cincinnati
Speaker 1: I thought belonged in the Final four. They had a
Speaker 1: ton of talent, some of that talent on display in
Speaker 1: the NFL, and I thought that they were a quality team.
Speaker 1: I go back a couple of years Connecticut. Connecticut was
Speaker 1: playing in a bowl game, probably not worthy of that
Speaker 1: bowl game. Hawaii was in a bowl game. A big bull,
Speaker 1: you know, And there's certain times where you see a
Speaker 1: school rewarded, but you know it's not going to be
Speaker 1: pretty and I don't know how good TCU is other
Speaker 1: than they've done exactly what we want them to do. Win.
Speaker 1: No matter who it's against. You win, you play poorly,
Speaker 1: you still win. That's what we want. Tennessee to me,
Speaker 1: would be a better team. And they look at TV ratings.
Speaker 1: Once again, it's a TV show. They want. They want
Speaker 1: you to have a lot of people watching this. They
Speaker 1: want people. They want a fan base that travels. You
Speaker 1: want to have the stands packed. Maybe TCU brings a
Speaker 1: great crowd. I know Tennessee will, but I would say
Speaker 1: a one lost Tennessee over TCU. If TCU goes undefeated,
Speaker 1: probably so. Yes, Mark, if the quarterback from TCU was
Speaker 1: at Tennessee or Georgia, would he be getting more love
Speaker 1: for the Heisman if he's at Georgia. Yes, yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1: But those are great numbers. But you start to look
Speaker 1: at college football, it's hard to not have great numbers.
Speaker 1: If you're a good quarterback, maybe a very good quarterback,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have fun. I don't know, thirty four touchdowns,
Speaker 1: three interceptions. Just the way the game is now, offense
Speaker 1: is so far ahead of the defense, certainly when it
Speaker 1: comes to college that you know, you're not going to
Speaker 1: have that parody that you have in the NFL. But
Speaker 1: you know, Hendon Hooker has been awesome. It's just is
Speaker 1: that going to be enough to win the Heisman Trophy?
Speaker 1: Because CJ. Stroud whence the last time you go, God,
Speaker 1: did you watch him play? We haven't had one of
Speaker 1: those moments yet, have we we have with Hendon Hooker,
Speaker 1: And that's an offense that's going to continue to pile
Speaker 1: on points because they want to get style points here.
Speaker 1: They want you to notice, oh my god, they put
Speaker 1: up sixty two. Yeah. More. Should any of the wide
Speaker 1: receivers from Ohio State be getting more love for the
Speaker 1: Heisman because that's what it seems like like justin fields. Look,
Speaker 1: you had some NFL level wide receiver. You got too
Speaker 1: many receivers. I mean, I guess you have to fall
Speaker 1: back and give it to the quarterback. And CJ. Stroud
Speaker 1: is a great quarterback, but I don't know if he's
Speaker 1: had that moment yet. And that's why I said Caleb
Speaker 1: Williams at USC I would keep an eye on because
Speaker 1: you've got in UCLA Notre Dame and then you'll have
Speaker 1: the Pac twelve title game. That's a chance to showcase.
Speaker 1: And if you continue to win and you have only
Speaker 1: one loss, there could they sleep at us sneak in there? Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think a couple of things hurt TCU. Like they're
Speaker 1: not this cute, fuzzy little football team that came from nowhere.
Speaker 1: The past twenty five years they've been in the Fiesta
Speaker 1: Bowl and as a while back, they've been in the
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl. They usually win ten games. The past three
Speaker 1: or four years have been down with Gary Patterson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Sunny Dinks took over, but they're ten to Oh, but
Speaker 1: they're not some come from nowhere program that's like Cincinnati
Speaker 1: was more come from nowhere last year. They're known as
Speaker 1: a basketball school. And the other thing I think it
Speaker 1: hurts TCU is the Big twelve is a little bit
Speaker 1: down perception. Well, we don't know who's in the Big
Speaker 1: twelve anymore. Yeah, the two heavyweight to leaving. It's like, wait,
Speaker 1: is Texas? Are they still in the Big twelve now?
Speaker 1: They're gonna be in the SEC next year? We're not
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Speaker 1: quick thing with the World Cup. I've heard now over
Speaker 1: the past decade, four different pronunciations for the I heard
Speaker 1: Qatar cutter, cutter or ten years ago was the standard.
Speaker 1: We all said cutter as Qatar. Then I heard Qatar
Speaker 1: on a rights holder on a station that has the
Speaker 1: rights to the World Cup. So you think they would
Speaker 1: know the name of the country that we're going to. Okay,
Speaker 1: so when we should play how did you pronounce the
Speaker 1: World Cup host country game? Sometime maybe not today, but
Speaker 1: maybe do some research. Let's go to our World Cup
Speaker 1: expert seat Neal counter. Yes, I think that I'm going
Speaker 1: to play in a pronunciation expert right now, just to
Speaker 1: throw it out there, but I think that Cutter is correct.
Speaker 1: It's almost. But to say Qatar is like if you
Speaker 1: said like nikodagwa, it's it's it's right, but you don't
Speaker 1: need to say it that way. Maybe it don't speak
Speaker 1: that way. Maybe it's right over there, like if you
Speaker 1: see you say Florence Italy here, but it's for your
Speaker 1: enza if you live in it. Oh yeah, like Treno
Speaker 1: is Turin and it's Venezia instead of Venice. Right, Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: mar Marvan yes, sorry, yes, mar Is that almost like, uh,
Speaker 1: can I have mozzarella? Can I mozzarella? This is a
Speaker 1: subway relaxed. I went out for a birthday party and
Speaker 1: they ordered uh Calamari and and I just hunt habit
Speaker 1: went now klamar. They look at me like what are
Speaker 1: you doing? I go never, never mind, Patrick Calamari that
Speaker 1: those jokes do not go over my house, especially with
Speaker 1: the Italians. Oh, they do not go over well. Yeah.
Speaker 1: My wife she's like, don't do that, and I go
Speaker 1: but that do you see that show Stanley Tucci has,
Speaker 1: Stanley Tucci's Italy or whatever. Yeah, he had something really smart.
Speaker 1: I think my mom was just telling me about this
Speaker 1: that he said, if you want to understand Italy, you
Speaker 1: have to start at the dinner table and then work
Speaker 1: your way out. And that's really the heart of Italian culture.
Speaker 1: So that's why our jokes about it kind of bad.
Speaker 1: They don't go over well because it's very serious. It's
Speaker 1: very insulting. I mean, we can still do them. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying though, that, you know, the Irish getting made
Speaker 1: fun of all the time. Yeah, we don't care, and
Speaker 1: we're okay with it. We don't care. What's fine. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys are just drunk. No, not all the time.
Speaker 1: People make fun of us, even when we say you
Speaker 1: can make fun of us. Yes, that's we're just resilient. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're just a resilient people. Yeah, we're just fun loving people.
Speaker 1: At the drop of a hat and then we could
Speaker 1: punch your right in the face and it is tough
Speaker 1: though that like all of those things that you're just
Speaker 1: mentioning are mostly true. Yeah most of the time. Like, yes,
Speaker 1: we do. Uh isn't that about an Irish flag? We
Speaker 1: will get drunk and punch in the face. Is that
Speaker 1: that's what the colors are meeting next? Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a chance that we could cry or we could
Speaker 1: punch in the face, all in the span of sixty seconds. Yes. Point.
Speaker 1: So I've got at least five different pronunciations that are acceptable.
Speaker 1: Cutter Qatar Qatar, but the oh Man Qatar Airlines pronounces
Speaker 1: it catar like almost like a cat. I like Qatar
Speaker 1: because then a guitar hero yeah, while my Qatar gently weaves.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah blop. Andy Staples, who covers college football. He
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Speaker 1: a little bit later on scoring down in the NFL,
Speaker 1: passing down in the NFL, running is up? What the
Speaker 1: heck is going on with the NFL? A lot? Justin field?
Speaker 1: What is that voice now? I don't know, just my
Speaker 1: my crappy joke I do. It's my dog's voice. It's
Speaker 1: one of my dogs, Mango speaks like that, at least
Speaker 1: in my head. But then I've just turned it into
Speaker 1: my Dan Patrick's show, crappy joke guy, and give me
Speaker 1: that voice again Justin Fields. Yes, it's like Fritzy has
Speaker 1: that annoying callerbo oh, I'll just hand o pe Lucy.
Speaker 1: I don't know why if Fritzy does that voice for
Speaker 1: his like when I call her, he is saying, oh,
Speaker 1: you should have a Tennessee should always be in. Say
Speaker 1: if I had said, hey, thanks a lot, Justin Fields,
Speaker 1: that's not a very funny joke. But if you kind
Speaker 1: of it, I'm just gonna hang up and listening to Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, all right? Is that the poll question we're
Speaker 1: going with? Who gets in undefeated TCU or one last Tennessee? Heck? Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right? And it's not who should, but who will?
Speaker 1: Because I think that's that's different. There are times when
Speaker 1: we've gone that team not going to stay in the
Speaker 1: top four, Why they're just not. I just wrote it
Speaker 1: as who gets into the college football playoffs? No? Shoot,
Speaker 1: or would just does? Okay, that's fine. How about we
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Speaker 1: By the way, the odds to win the national championship
Speaker 1: in college basketball number one on the list. Anybody want
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Speaker 1: You know, so I would assume, oh, we would go
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Speaker 1: punishment was we had to be male cheerleaders, which the
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Speaker 1: it looked like there were about five hundred people watching
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Speaker 1: their megaphones, they have their outfits on. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: who was carrying the flag? We all got the flag.
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Speaker 1: Assess the current rankings and could any do you expect
Speaker 1: anything to happen this weekend that could change the top four?
Speaker 1: Potential sannigans this week and potential shenanigans because USC UCLA
Speaker 1: feels like a very close game, Vegas think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a close game. It's I think USC's a one
Speaker 1: and a half point favorite. Neither defense looks capable of
Speaker 1: stopping either offense, so I think it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 1: And then TCU playing Baylor in Waco. Baylor very up
Speaker 1: and down over the last few weeks. Like you, if
Speaker 1: you get good Baylor and good Blake Shape in their quarterback,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a really tight game. If you
Speaker 1: get the Baylor team that played k State last week,
Speaker 1: TCU is gonna roll. And so that's an interesting one
Speaker 1: because you know, we could see those two teams being
Speaker 1: a very different place next week. Because USC obviously that
Speaker 1: they lose, they would be out of playoff contention. I'm
Speaker 1: still not convinced TCU would be out. I think a
Speaker 1: twelve and one Big twelve Camp TCU. Given how deep
Speaker 1: the Big twelve was and how there's really no weeks
Speaker 1: off in that league, I think they have to get
Speaker 1: some consideration now if they're thirteen and oh, they're in
Speaker 1: and this is one of their toughest challenges left. So
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. No, if I said Tennessee has
Speaker 1: one loss to end the regular season and TCUs undefeated season,
Speaker 1: no choice, it would, but it wouldn't be a choice
Speaker 1: between those two, I don't think. I think then you're
Speaker 1: talking about Tennessee versus maybe a twelve and one USC
Speaker 1: Pack twelve champ or the loser of the Ohio State
Speaker 1: Michigan game, And I think that then it's a little
Speaker 1: bit different. But I think, well, let's look at those scenarios.
Speaker 1: If I said I got a one loss USC team
Speaker 1: and a one lost Tennessee team, who who would Who
Speaker 1: do you think the playoff committee would take? They're gonna
Speaker 1: take Tennessee, and everybody's gonna tell you they're gonna take USC.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, because they would take Tennessee
Speaker 1: in that situation because they always have taken that particular
Speaker 1: type of team in that situation because at the way
Speaker 1: they boil it down at the end, they like good wins,
Speaker 1: and Tennessee would have a couple of great wins. They'd
Speaker 1: have the LSU win in Baton Rouge where they won
Speaker 1: forty to thirteen. They're winning itast Alabama. US would have
Speaker 1: the wins that they would be getting over the next
Speaker 1: three weeks UCLA, Notre Dame, and then probably Organ or
Speaker 1: Utah in the tactful championship game, and those you know,
Speaker 1: those are good sets of good wins in both cases.
Speaker 1: But then when they get to that point they say
Speaker 1: they're supposed to break the tie with conference champion or not.
Speaker 1: They never do that. They've never done that in the past.
Speaker 1: When they do it for the first time, it will
Speaker 1: be the first time. What they do is they decide
Speaker 1: who's a better team, who they think would win if
Speaker 1: they played. And like, if you ask a guy in
Speaker 1: Vegas right now, if you said, what is the line
Speaker 1: on a neutral site Tennessee USC game Tennessee by seven
Speaker 1: and a half or eight, So they'll pick Tennessee. They said,
Speaker 1: I've had this idea over the past few years, like
Speaker 1: if you have to decide between four and five, I
Speaker 1: think the committee should be allowed to kidnap the head
Speaker 1: coach of the number one team, like roll up in
Speaker 1: a window this van, grab Kirby Smart Nathens, put a
Speaker 1: bag over his head, bring him to an undisclosed location,
Speaker 1: you shoot him up with truthstrom And in this case,
Speaker 1: you go Herby, who do you want Tennessee or USC
Speaker 1: Who would you rather play? And he'll go, give me
Speaker 1: the Trojans and you go, okay, you get the Valls.
Speaker 1: That would be good TV Andy by the way, Magnets
Speaker 1: get on there. Yes, Okay. If I said a one
Speaker 1: lost Tennessee team against the one loss either Ohio State
Speaker 1: or Michigan team, uhha. Now if you have my Kirby
Speaker 1: Smart kidnaps scenario and the and and Ohio State is
Speaker 1: the team that has has narrowly lost the Michigan Ohio
Speaker 1: State game, Kirby might say it give me the Valls. Wow.
Speaker 1: So that that's the interesting I think Ohio State has
Speaker 1: a better chance of getting in if they lose that
Speaker 1: game than Michigan does if they lose that game. Because
Speaker 1: Ohio State has that Notre Dame win, they are viewed
Speaker 1: it's probably the more complete team that you know they
Speaker 1: could throw. They could run unless it's they're playing Northwestern
Speaker 1: and they can't seem to do either. But they're much
Speaker 1: better defensively. What's weird about this is if I had
Speaker 1: to pick that game today, and obviously we'll all be
Speaker 1: picking it next week, I'd take Michigan to win that game.
Speaker 1: I just feel like Michigan's been more consistent. I feel
Speaker 1: like the way Michigan plays is not a great matchup
Speaker 1: for Ohio State, but it would be a terrible matchup
Speaker 1: for Michigan against the Georgia. For example. I think Ohio
Speaker 1: State's probably a better matchup against the Georgia just because
Speaker 1: they can do some different things. But you know that
Speaker 1: that's just gonna have to shake out. I do think
Speaker 1: if if Michigan wins that game, that's the better chance
Speaker 1: for the Big Ten to get too in. If I said,
Speaker 1: if we're going with who would be favored by Vegas?
Speaker 1: If I said Tennessee was gonna play TCU neutral site
Speaker 1: right now, right now, Tennessee is going to be favored.
Speaker 1: Tennessee is going to be favored, But I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know by how much, because you know, we've
Speaker 1: seen Tennessee against Georgia where when that offense doesn't work,
Speaker 1: What do you what do you got? And we've seen
Speaker 1: TCU plays and do what TCU does that's different from say,
Speaker 1: you like USC wins one way. They score a bunch
Speaker 1: of points. Their defense occasionally gives up a bunch of points,
Speaker 1: but they score a bunch of points and they win.
Speaker 1: North Carolina is the same thing. Michigan kind of wins
Speaker 1: the same way every time. TCU has been capable of
Speaker 1: winning different ways. They can win in a shootout and
Speaker 1: they can win in a rock fight. And George is
Speaker 1: really the only other team we're talking about in here
Speaker 1: that's proven they can do that, like Tennessee hasn't proven
Speaker 1: they can win in a different way. So that's where
Speaker 1: I like. I like TCU, and I also like the
Speaker 1: fact that TCU has really in conference play, had no
Speaker 1: weeks off. They're playing a decent to good team every
Speaker 1: single time, and other leagues have kind of chum at
Speaker 1: the bottom where you have a week that you can
Speaker 1: sleepwalker and still win. TCUs had to be on edge
Speaker 1: every single week. Now, if they lose to Baylor and
Speaker 1: the Committee drops them below Tennessee and then probably never
Speaker 1: coming back, but I still think they should get consideration
Speaker 1: for that. Because the Big twelve has been so deep
Speaker 1: this year. How up for grabs is the Heisman? Very
Speaker 1: very I did a blind resume thing last week with
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks and the running backs, and I threw Jalen
Speaker 1: Carter in there from Georgia, the defensive tackle, because I
Speaker 1: think there's a real good chance he's actually the best
Speaker 1: player in the country. But if you look at the quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: and I think this will be a quarterback year unless
Speaker 1: Blake corm just blows up against Ohio State, they're producing
Speaker 1: a really similar rates. I mean, it depends on what
Speaker 1: stat you like the most. Are you a yards per
Speaker 1: a teenth person? Are you a touchdowns produced person? But
Speaker 1: you know it's c J. Stroud from Ohio State, Drake
Speaker 1: May from North Carolina, Boonis from more From, Caleb Williams
Speaker 1: from USC, Max Duggan from TCU, hend and Hooker from Tennessee.
Speaker 1: They're all in that mix, and it's a matter of
Speaker 1: who can separate. Hen and Hooker is not going to
Speaker 1: get another chance where everybody's watching unless they're losing to
Speaker 1: Vandy or South Carolina, which they don't want to be
Speaker 1: in that situation. So I think he's he's sort of
Speaker 1: in the clubhouse. He's signed his scorecard, he's waiting for
Speaker 1: everybody else to show up. Caleb Williams from USC, I
Speaker 1: think has the best chance to really shine over a
Speaker 1: several week period because they're playing like everyone's gonna watching
Speaker 1: them against UCLA if they win that game, everyone's watching
Speaker 1: them against Notre Dame, and then obviously c J. Strout
Speaker 1: and play Quorum when they play, the nation's eyes will
Speaker 1: be on that game, and if one of them just
Speaker 1: has a legendary game, real good chance they win. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been saying Caleb Williams is the dark course and
Speaker 1: keep an eye on him because he has three games
Speaker 1: that will be standalone games. The UCLA is big game,
Speaker 1: Notre Dame is always big, and then the Pac twelve.
Speaker 1: I mean, USC has not helped out by Oregon and
Speaker 1: UCLA losing this past weekend, But as far as playing
Speaker 1: against Marquee team standalone games, he's got three chances where
Speaker 1: you know, c J. Strout has got the Michigan game
Speaker 1: correct and maybe the Big Ten championship, but that's probably
Speaker 1: going to be against the very overmatched West team. So yeah,
Speaker 1: and Drake May I'm telling you guys, watch Drake May.
Speaker 1: He's got more touchdown passes than c J. Strout, he
Speaker 1: leads North Carolina and rushing. He may really be the
Speaker 1: best player in the cut tree. And the thing about
Speaker 1: Drake May and Caleb Williams, I think they're in very
Speaker 1: similar situations. Their defenses have been not good good season.
Speaker 1: I'm probably just bad. Bad's probably the right word. They've
Speaker 1: been under so much pressure to score every time they
Speaker 1: get the ball, and they've generally done that, and I
Speaker 1: think that's pretty amazing. So I do do yourself a favor.
Speaker 1: Watch a little Drake May. I think no, I have well,
Speaker 1: I'm selling the audience, but Black Friday, North Caroline Anti
Speaker 1: state that they'll be trying to standalone. Give yourself a
Speaker 1: chance to watch him play. He's fun. As I told
Speaker 1: this audience a couple of weeks ago that there's going
Speaker 1: to be teams that will tank for a quarterback in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four and it's Drake May. And this was
Speaker 1: according to huh oh, Caleb Williams, well from the Scout
Speaker 1: that is a great resource to me, NFL Scout. He said,
Speaker 1: Drake May is the quarterback, and he said that teams
Speaker 1: will Tank for Drake May in twenty twenty four. I
Speaker 1: mean I might thank for Drake May right now. Like
Speaker 1: he came on our show last week. And this is
Speaker 1: a man who who's his confidence. You know that this
Speaker 1: guy is in charge. And it's interesting he was committed
Speaker 1: to Alabama. First. He's the brother of Luke May who
Speaker 1: played basketball at North Carolina and it was a big
Speaker 1: star there on the basketball court, and he he needed
Speaker 1: Sam Howe to show that you could be successful at
Speaker 1: quarterback in North Carolina to decide, Okay, I'll do this
Speaker 1: instead of Alabama because I really want to go to
Speaker 1: North Carolina. And I mean they are They're potentially going
Speaker 1: to be a twelve and one ACC champ if they
Speaker 1: can beat questioned at That is not something I would
Speaker 1: have predicted to became the year. Andy. Always great to
Speaker 1: talk to you. Thanks for giving us all that information.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Dan. That's Andy Staples, host of the Coincidentally,
Speaker 1: Andy Staples Show covers college football for the Athletic Logan
Speaker 1: in Ohio joins us to lead a song, Hi Logan,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? Hey bam? First time, long time? Yeah,
Speaker 1: six l two twenty five. So what would Caleb Williams
Speaker 1: have to do to beat CJ. Straild out of the Heisman.
Speaker 1: Just asking because CJ. Straild dirty played Notre Dame ten
Speaker 1: state and now they have Michigan this week. It well,
Speaker 1: it feels like it's the momentum of what do you
Speaker 1: do towards the end of the year, And did you
Speaker 1: have a game or two that you went wild? Did
Speaker 1: you see that? Caleb Williams may have those. He's gonna
Speaker 1: have three opportunities assuming they beat UCLA, they got Notre Dame,
Speaker 1: and then they're gonna have the PAC twelve title game. CJ.
Speaker 1: Stroud has that one game, and then the Big ten
Speaker 1: title game you know won't it'll be sort of an
Speaker 1: anticlimactic to the Michigan game. But if he has an
Speaker 1: unbelievable game against Michigan, he's probably going to win it.
Speaker 1: I just said, if you want to keep an eye
Speaker 1: on a dark course, Caleb Williams is the dark course.
Speaker 1: And maybe you know Drake may is a red shirt
Speaker 1: freshman and it's North Carolina. I don't know if voters.
Speaker 1: I can't speak for everybody. There's so many voters, but
Speaker 1: I don't know how much they're watching games as much
Speaker 1: as we watch highlights, and it feels like Caleb Williams
Speaker 1: has a chance to make the highlights. You might not
Speaker 1: watch a game against Utah which they barely lost, or
Speaker 1: they would be in the national title I mean, they're
Speaker 1: still in the national title picture. It's just we look
Speaker 1: at them and we go they got a great offense
Speaker 1: and a bad defense, got a great coach and a
Speaker 1: couple of great wide receiver and a great quarterback. I
Speaker 1: just don't know if the voters the consensus they're watching
Speaker 1: USC games or watching North Carolina games. Sometimes you watch
Speaker 1: what's in front of you. Sometimes you have to go
Speaker 1: find these games. Yampo, Drake May, CJ. Stroud, and Caleb
Speaker 1: Williams all have over thirty touchdown passes and fewer than
Speaker 1: five interceptions, so they're all very similar. Drake May has
Speaker 1: a lot of rushing yards. He remembered Marvin deceptively athletic
Speaker 1: Drake May. Yeah, we should send him a shirt. Well,
Speaker 1: we do have the deceptively sneakynek athletic. Have to send
Speaker 1: him one. Yeah, maybe we send it to uh let's
Speaker 1: see Josh in Indiana. Hi Josh, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 1: Hey dude, another first time long time six to four
Speaker 1: half Fluffy three hundred. Hey, this kind a question for you.
Speaker 1: With Michigan playing Ohio State in just about ten days
Speaker 1: from now, if one of those two teams blows the
Speaker 1: other one out, which I don't foresee happening, how much
Speaker 1: of the effect do you think it would have on
Speaker 1: the playoff race? Well, if you get blown out in
Speaker 1: that game, you're gonna drop out of the top four.
Speaker 1: But if both teams go toe to toe and it's
Speaker 1: an unbelievable game and it comes down to the wire,
Speaker 1: then do you keep both of those teams in? I mean,
Speaker 1: you have the human element that you have to somehow
Speaker 1: try to factor in. It's not just we put information
Speaker 1: into a computer and it spits out. Here's our four.
Speaker 1: There's still the human element in here. Todd in Colorado,
Speaker 1: Hey Todd, what's on your mind today? Hey, good morning, Dan.
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk a little TCU football again because
Speaker 1: Andy Staples made a lot of good points in your interview.
Speaker 1: That was a great interview, by the way. But the
Speaker 1: one thing if Keith's left out in Tennessee's in, that's
Speaker 1: gonna mean there's two one loss non conference champions in there,
Speaker 1: which would be either O'house later Michigan or Tennessee, and
Speaker 1: a big Power five conference winner, this undefeated would be
Speaker 1: left out. I don't think the committee would do that
Speaker 1: at all. I hope they don't, but I just we've
Speaker 1: been down this road before with TCU, like once a decade.
Speaker 1: It feels like, yeah, Paully, they're gonna have to do
Speaker 1: one of those things. There's only four spots, like either Michigan,
Speaker 1: Ohio State. I don't see ohih State or Tennessee or
Speaker 1: TCU is going to get left out somehow. Caleb in Ohio, Hi, Caleb,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? ADP for a time? A
Speaker 1: long time? Yeah? Six two. M Andy Staples that was
Speaker 1: talking about Drake Manthe from North Carolina, and I was
Speaker 1: thinking if he went to a bigger college than UNC,
Speaker 1: would he get more loved in the Heisman race? Sure,
Speaker 1: but he might not be starting. If he went to Alabama,
Speaker 1: he's not starting. If he went to Georgia, he's not starting.
Speaker 1: They recruited him, he gets to play as a red
Speaker 1: shirt freshman. He wouldn't be playing, even as good as
Speaker 1: he is at a couple of these schools. He wouldn't
Speaker 1: play at Ohio State. He'd play at Michigan. He wouldn't
Speaker 1: play at USC. TCU has a pretty good quarterback in
Speaker 1: Max Duggan. Yeah, Pault. We have to remember this day
Speaker 1: because people are going to start saying that Drake may
Speaker 1: if he was eligible for this draft, which Happenberg, Josh
Speaker 1: Rosen for sure, Josh ro Sam Darnold was the number
Speaker 1: one pick, no doubt the year he was going to
Speaker 1: come out. Yeah, Jimmy Clawson. Uh, Marv just said Matt Liner, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Liner should not have stayed. But I'll tell you I
Speaker 1: would have left that party. If you've walked around USC's campus,
Speaker 1: I would have stayed. If I were Liner, I'd still
Speaker 1: be there playing for US. If I had eligibility, I'd
Speaker 1: still be there. Nobody had it better than junior year
Speaker 1: Matt Liner. No, all right, well, take a break. I
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Speaker 1: the poll results from the first forty eight minutes of
Speaker 1: this program, Dan, I would love to who gets into
Speaker 1: the college football playoff an undefeated TCU or a one
Speaker 1: lost Tennessee. Right now, undefeated TCU has fifty nine percent
Speaker 1: of the vote. Good. I hope they do. It's still closer, though,
Speaker 1: yes it is. It probably should be. James in Virginia. Oh,
Speaker 1: thank you for taking my call, brother happy Happy? What
Speaker 1: is it? Wednesday? Taught me off guard? Oh man, so
Speaker 1: luc the commanders they taking my call DP Dan that
Speaker 1: Oh wow, what a game on Monday night. Have I
Speaker 1: told you guys about Optimus Prime number seventeen Terry McLaurin. Man,
Speaker 1: this guy is the leader of the team. He is
Speaker 1: a fantastic player. Underrated wide receiver Karla Heni Key, what
Speaker 1: do you say is that the guy wins? Man? I
Speaker 1: was selling titled off his ball pluggers. There's something about
Speaker 1: that guy and that defensive has turned the corner. They're tough, man.
Speaker 1: You'll see what happens the next two weeks. I'm not
Speaker 1: too short, um, I say this right here. I know
Speaker 1: you guys have to send into some clips, man. I
Speaker 1: really think you should send in the clip when I
Speaker 1: called in about asking about wedding advice. Man, it really
Speaker 1: showed a different side of you guys. I know it's
Speaker 1: not sports, but I think it was such a great clip, man.
Speaker 1: And I always I always say I appreciate that, and
Speaker 1: I leave a two more things. Just my guyfather Bobby
Speaker 1: passed away, Bobby side Rack. I loved him, man, He's
Speaker 1: a great guy. Loved car you know, going to this
Speaker 1: funeral this weekend. Just want to give him a shout out.
Speaker 1: At my part of the face back. I think Sean
Speaker 1: Payton will be head coach of the Denver Broncos next year. Man,
Speaker 1: I'll let you send her on that. Have a great day, gentlemen,
Speaker 1: Thank you for taking the call. Thank you James. You
Speaker 1: would have thought we would have had James calling in
Speaker 1: yesterday after the Commander's big win Space and his calls out.
Speaker 1: Now maybe he's got other shows to call into. James
Speaker 1: in Virginia. By the way, Ron Rivera had this to
Speaker 1: say on who his quarterback is going to be moving
Speaker 1: forward with the commanders, Well, we're going to see what
Speaker 1: happens this week. We have not had an opportunity to
Speaker 1: I have not had an opportunity to sit down with
Speaker 1: Alan go through what the doctors have decided. What they've decided.
Speaker 1: But the first thing we tell everybody is this, don't
Speaker 1: get ahead of ourselves, because remember we've got to return
Speaker 1: on the practice first and see where he is. If
Speaker 1: he is cleared and ready to go, so we'll go
Speaker 1: from there. Guys. There's a lot of factors that go
Speaker 1: into a John A lot of things that I'll have
Speaker 1: to discuss with Scott and Kenny for that matter, which
Speaker 1: we'll be doing a little bit later. I get the
Speaker 1: feeling you're gonna stay with Taylor Heineken. You know, he's
Speaker 1: like he's the new Jimmy g All he does is win.
Speaker 1: Stats aren't pretty, but I do love the emotion and
Speaker 1: the enthusiasm that he has, Like I want my player
Speaker 1: to care. Carson Wentz, No, he just goes out there.
Speaker 1: I think he sometimes goes out there and we're supposed
Speaker 1: to think that's the old Carson Wentz. It's not. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's going to be replicating that anytime soon,
Speaker 1: and he does have weapons there. I mean, the Commanders
Speaker 1: are a good team or a competitive team. I should say,
Speaker 1: we get caught up in we don't like the franchise
Speaker 1: because of the owner. Don't misconstrue the two yeampon, But
Speaker 1: don't you think the Commanders are kind of in no
Speaker 1: man's land at quarterback? They've got a decent guy in
Speaker 1: Taylor Heineke. I don't think he could neither as their future. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that's that's what I'm saying. Yeah, they have no
Speaker 1: future at quarterback. Absolutely. Phil in West Virginia High Phil,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? Hey DP boys, thanks for
Speaker 1: having me on first time, long time six foot, very
Speaker 1: approachable one ninety seven, Hey, I got a question for
Speaker 1: you as a West Virginia University grad about our football
Speaker 1: program and kind of a management perspective. So we just
Speaker 1: dropped Shane lyons Our a d of eight years after
Speaker 1: he renewed Neil Brown. We are not trusting the climb
Speaker 1: anymore amongst a losing record. So the question is what
Speaker 1: do we do from here? Can you drop an athletic
Speaker 1: director and a head coach in the same season. Do
Speaker 1: we have to just kind of live this out for
Speaker 1: a while and wait till we find a new A
Speaker 1: d just kind of curious what well a new ad
Speaker 1: is going to want a new coach and if you're
Speaker 1: gonna wipe the slate clean. But also understand this, we
Speaker 1: look at the athletic director and usually we think his
Speaker 1: performance is based solely off the football team. You're the
Speaker 1: athletic director. There's a lot more that goes into it.
Speaker 1: But I would have to have somebody do a deep
Speaker 1: dive on West Virginia football and we just don't have
Speaker 1: the time of the manpower we had planned on it. No,
Speaker 1: we did, and Seaton said, no, we could dive into
Speaker 1: some budgetary issues that they're having right now. Dan But man,
Speaker 1: I think we're right up against it, right, Mike and Orlando.
Speaker 1: We'll sneak in. Mike, what do you have for me?
Speaker 1: Hey morning, DP, good morning. Earlier you're talking about the
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Speaker 1: of the face or since we're heading into the festive
Speaker 1: season of the year, an eggnog shower game for the
Speaker 1: World Cup. All right, give me your beat real quick,
Speaker 1: no problem. I want Brazil in England. I'll give everybody else.
Speaker 1: I'll give you the field. M okay, Seaton, you're our
Speaker 1: World Cup expert. Brazil is favored. That's you know, big
Speaker 1: of him to say I'll take Brazil. Yeah, I would
Speaker 1: love to see Brazil win too. It's Brazil, Argentina, France,
Speaker 1: Spain and England. So he's taking two of the top
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