WEBVTT - The Egg-spiracy 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:04.720 From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:09.119 riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:12.079 learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:25.799 production of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show. 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:28.680 My name is Matt, my name is Noel. They called 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:32.080 me Ben. We're joined as always with our super producer Paul, 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:36.600 Mission controlled decond. Most importantly, you are you. You are here, 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:40.239 and that makes this the stuff they don't want you 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:45.040 to know. Uh, this is our This episode reminds me 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:47.800 of the original Iron Chef. Do you guys remember the 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:53.680 original Iron Chef? Yes, yes, which is literally translates to 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:59.080 go kitchen uh uh. Every time the every every time 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:03.959 the chairman had a it was introducing a theme ingredient. 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:08.679 The chairman would have this, um, this weird kind of 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:11.759 vague speech about it, which we're gonna skip because we're 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:15.920 not Iron Chef, and then the host would host would 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:19.680 come in like the voiceover guy and extol the virtues 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:23.440 of whatever this was, whether it was you know, avocados, eels, 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:26.240 or in this case eggs. So just to do that 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:30.160 really quickly, Oh the humble egg. Look upon its simplicity, 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:34.119 you'll discover brilliance. The shape evolved to withstand me read 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:38.280 precious the material inside a culinary helen of Troy, a 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:41.679 yoke that launched a thousand dishes, you know, And it 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:44.240 goes on and on. I'm keeping it short because I 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:45.880 know I want to make sure I don't bore you out. 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:50.040 I mean, but eggs, right, we don't think about that. 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:52.080 We've talked about them in the past. We talked about 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:55.880 him on a previous a couple of previous segments. Um, 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:59.680 and I think we're we're not all on the same 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:02.640 page about eggs, right, or in the same nest about them. 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:05.160 Like some of us love them, some of us take 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:07.920 them or leave them. But they're they're fun to cook 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:11.480 at least, right, and you can do them hundreds of ways. Yeah, 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:15.000 just saw on Instagram video on how you can cure 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:19.200 egg yolks in hot sauce, and then you get this 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:23.280 like hot sauce jammy kind of solidified egg yolk you 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:26.760 can spread on toast, which to some people would sound disgusting, 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:29.400 but I was intrigued. That sounds pretty gross to me. 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:32.120 I would try, you know what I mean. But I tried, 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:36.080 Like the kool Aid pickles, too, So my bar is 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:38.520 very low for what alterna away. Yeah, I think to 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:43.000 some people just any level of undercooked egg is a 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:46.079 red flag. And I mean there's good precedent for that. 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:49.200 You know, we always heard of salmonella, but yet somehow 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:52.040 we've kind of gotten past that where undercooked eggs are 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:56.080 like okay or are they well? Also depends on people. 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.440 People would say it depends on the quality of the egg. 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:02.359 The way of which was weird. And you know, we're 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:05.680 gonna we're gonna touch on a lot of things that 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:08.400 are going to be very familiar to people who raise 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:12.040 their own eggs or work in uh that particular aspect 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:15.760 of factory farming, but may not be common knowledge to 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:19.240 the average person. Right, Like this is weird. It could 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:21.839 Eggs can be an ingredient, they could be a side dish, 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:23.720 they could be a main dish. Like you pointed out, 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:28.119 you can do all sorts of interesting things with them, 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:31.280 even if they're not tasty things. Uh. And now it 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:33.960 shouldn't surprise us that eggs have become the source of 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:37.520 not one, but several conspiracy theories. We're not talking about 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:42.280 d egg distinction. Uh, We're not talking like bringing bringing 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:45.760 back you know, dodo eggs. We're not talking about factory farming, 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:48.640 which is very real and horrific thing. We're talking about 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:51.120 different theory. It's something that a lot of our fellow 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:54.520 conspiracy realists have asked us and reached out to us 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:59.760 about recently. Wire eggs. So it's suddenly so expensive, Sorry 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:02.520 for the pot to get better. What's at the heart 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:06.680 of the great egg expiracy? Etcetera, etcetera, and so forth. 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:12.720 Here are the facts. Yes, you have likely heard about this. 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:17.800 It's being reported everywhere. There's something wrong with the chickens 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:20.960 or there's something wrong with the egg. Which one came first? 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:26.440 It's the immortal question. It's true. Um, that's because eggs 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:30.000 are in everything or a lot of things, you know, 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:32.840 as like a binding agent. You know, they're in cakes 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:35.279 to help kind of you know, solidify the mixture and 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:37.560 all of that stuff and help it rise and all 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:40.680 of that. They're absolutely ubiquitous. Just about everyone has at 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:44.920 least at some point in their life tried an egg. Um, 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:48.279 so we all pretty much know what we're talking about here. 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:53.280 Culinarily speaking, Yeah, we don't need to spend time explaining 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.840 what eggs are. But if you you got this far 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:58.400 in your life to where you you listen to a 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.039 show like this and you've never heard the idea of 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:05.720 an egg honestly, congratulations. I don't know how you mini 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:09.320 max your stats into that one, but that's amazing. Uh. 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:14.640 Like like you said, no, eggs are ubiquitous most people, 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:20.360 probably even before they make a conscious dietary decision like 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:22.920 I will be vegan or I will you know, uh 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:27.080 not consume eggs somehow. You probably ate one in childhood 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:30.720 or it was definitely an ingredient. And egg prices are 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:35.680 getting Paul, we might need some womp bumps on this eggstreme. Uh, 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:40.560 it's so weird. For about forty years in the United States, 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:45.239 egg prices have been relatively stable. That meant that supply 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:48.520 and demand had kind of been in sync, just like 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:53.120 a boy band. And they were also um, one of 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:57.720 the most reliably cheap foods or inexpensive things you could 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:00.440 buy at the grocery store. You have a emily, you 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:04.520 need protein, but you can't afford um. You know, you 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:09.000 can't afford like meat, beef or chicken or whatever. You 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:11.360 can't buy the chicken, but you can probably swing the 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:14.160 cost of of the eggs if you don't want to 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:19.480 eat beans. Another, and and over over the history, even 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:22.839 since we've been alive, we've seen egg prices fluctuate a 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:26.719 couple of times, but usually it's something within the the larger, 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:29.800 bigger picture of the environment that affects the price of 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:33.440 the eggs, Like when there's a large Avian flu outbreak 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:37.200 where you know, hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:40.760 chickens are affected and have to be either killed, you know, 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:44.240 by these larger factory farms that provide so many of 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:47.159 the eggs that we that we consume across the world, 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:50.560 especially in the United States. Um or if there's some 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:54.600 other environmental factor affecting probably the chickens and not so 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:57.839 much the eggs, because and that could be something like 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:01.760 avian flu, right, yeah, I mean, and the eggs certainly 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:05.640 got its own picture on the old food pyramid. Um 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:09.120 it is. It has definitely been considered since as we know, 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:11.440 the impetus for that whole food pyramid thing came from 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:14.320 kind of economic hardship and the idea of what is 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:17.360 the most affordable food. So eggs have long been a 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:21.640 staple food because of their relative affordability. Like you said, Matt, 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:25.960 M m yeah, and this this also comes with a 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:31.240 high nutritional value right now. Sometimes, especially in the United States, 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:34.440 it can be tough to get past the spin of 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:39.640 different trade groups where when when we're talking about how 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:43.920 good or bad and actual food stuff is for you, Like, 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:46.920 it might sound weird if you're not from the US, 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:50.320 but here in the United States you will you will 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:53.880 see commercials that are not for a specific brand of anything. 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:59.120 There for the idea of something like just milk. You know, 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:02.520 someone's just like, hey, you got milk, and that was 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:05.840 a whole thing and it was just celebrities with milk mustaches. 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:11.000 No one questioned it. Remember the eggs song that eggs 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:16.080 from my head down to my legs, scrambled off fried 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:19.360 with some bacon on the side. I love eggs. That 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:23.120 was the thing. I don't know what to do with that. 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:26.880 All sad it it's gramed, it's salad and scrambled eggs 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:29.760 at the same time. That's weird. The reason that theme 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:34.160 song is toss, salad and scrambled eggs is because, um, 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:38.280 I think the producers or the legal department would not 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:42.800 allow the theme song to be about mental health. But still, 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:45.679 I mean, only people with mental health problems eat sauce, 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:51.880 salad and scrambled eggs. That's I just remember the other 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:58.120 white meat that was pork. Yeah, yeah, it's so it's 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:00.800 to me, it's so funny. I love the idea, Like, 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:05.760 that's such a the also random meats, right, that's such 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:09.200 a whimsical billionaire thing to do to say, I'm going 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:11.160 to take out a ton of It's actually on my 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:13.840 list of things to do as a weird billionaire is 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:16.960 to take out a ton of ads for something that 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:22.240 doesn't specifically sell anything. It's just the idea, you know 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:25.640 what I mean, Like have the Goodyear blimp flying over 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:28.560 a stadium and the trailer thing at the end of 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:32.520 it just says, tacos are okay three out of five. 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:38.320 You know what I mean is forever we go, We'll 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:42.040 take oh diamonds, check out our diamond episode. Yeah this 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:46.559 um okay. I think all of us love food episodes. 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:50.880 And you know, whether you love eggs or whether you 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:54.439 don't eat them due to like health concerns or due 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:59.480 to um moral concerns, or whether you're like I am. 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:03.800 You know the uh and the epitome of the of 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:07.960 the egg eating human. You know that they do have 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.880 some advantages, and they've been around for a long time. 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.839 They've got nutritional advantages, a lot of bang fear buck 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:18.600 energy wise, and they have This has been the case 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:22.760 for so long, decades and decades and decades that eggs 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:27.080 would become a key part of cocktail economics, right, dinner 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:31.240 table economics, they we'll call it. When you hear economists 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.120 talking about stuff like the price of a loaf of 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:36.960 bread and you know, a jug of milk and a 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:41.560 dozen eggs, they're usually again here in the States, they're 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:45.480 usually quoting the Bureau of Labor Statistics, which talks about 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:49.960 something called the consumer Price Index or cp I, which 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:53.400 is a good measure of inflation, or one of the 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:58.040 most at least understandable and bandied about measures of inflation. 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:01.040 It's really interest interest thing to me. The c p 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.480 I is basically, what do you need to bake a 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:06.600 simple cake? Yeah? And what are the prices of all 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:10.160 those things? It's weird to think about it. That's just 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:12.960 the way I see it in my head. Uh, But yeah, 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:15.160 the CPI is something we could go super deep into 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:17.000 if we wanted to. Guys, we want to do that 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:20.560 today might be another bag of badgers. Honestly, yeah, it 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:24.360 feels okay, okay, how is the price of badgers faring 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:28.360 these days? If that may be so bold, there's solid 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:31.600 investment there there there. You know zoologists, you're calling them 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:37.160 the first crypto nice crypto zoologists. Yeah, you got it, 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:40.600 you got it. All right, Well, let's let's talk. Let's really, 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:42.960 let's talk about how much it costs to buy some 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:45.760 eggs right now, because I joked a while ago. I 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:48.160 can't remember the name of the episode, but I joked 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:51.040 about how the price of eggs were just fine, everything's 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:52.800 fine with the price of eggs, and it was, like, 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:56.520 I want to say, end of last year. Yeah, yeah, 0:11:56.559 --> 0:12:02.200 I remember that. Whoops, I mean how much egg cost 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:10.200 a hundred dollars tinted egg? Michael uh so in yeah, 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:16.800 in the price of a dozen eggs. Let's step back 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:19.360 for a second. First, you need to know that things 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:22.320 are different from how they were in the nineteen eighties. 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:27.040 In the egg world, not all eggs are created equal, 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:30.800 you know what I mean? Like, you can now if 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:33.040 you have the gumption and the means, you could buy 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:36.320 an ostrich egg, which is a very weird flex but 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:40.160 you know, you do you uh you can. You can 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:44.680 also see all kinds of organic or um free range 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:49.480 or pasture raised eggs. It's very very different stuff. Eggs 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:52.920 that you don't have to refrigerate because they still have 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:55.760 their they're covering their casing on. Yeah, I mean the 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:58.600 eggs that you get farm fresh you don't have to 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.880 refrigerate like like that. Actually have my house a nice 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:06.160 little like um, what's it called ceramic egg holder, and 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:09.560 my my partner gets fresh eggs from from a friend 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:11.240 and we will just leave them out. And that's a 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:13.280 thing that used to see that a lot more in 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:15.880 the olden days. You know, people leaving like butter out 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:19.360 on the counter and also you know eggs, and so 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.280 we're gonna get to I think we're gonna get to 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:27.360 some of the eggs eistential differences between different types of eggs. 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:29.640 I'm telling you it doesn't get better, Paul, You're gonna 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.439 have to. You might have uh worn off the keys 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:37.080 on the wamp womp button here, but in in we 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:42.400 know that if you were buying a dozen large Grade 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:46.520 A eggs as rated by the U S D A H, 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:49.960 then in most cities that would that would run you 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:53.320 about eighty four cents. Can I ask you, Ben, what 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.160 where do all the Grade B, C and D eggs go? 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.000 Did those go down the bad egg shoot? Like I 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:02.960 really wanting? But I mean, you know, the implication is 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:05.680 that there are other grades of eggs, and are those 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:09.480 perhaps used as ingredients and not sold on their own 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:12.760 like in pre made stuff. Is this something we should investigate? 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:16.160 I want to know where all the sub A eggs 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:21.080 end up. I think they go into UM kind of 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:27.600 secondary products, so like egg liquids maybe, or dried egg products, 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:30.840 so they go to astronauts. Sorry astronauts, you've got the 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:34.120 crappy freeze dried eggs, but thanks for being one of 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:39.360 the best parts of humanity. I think they're also the 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:43.320 um U s d A has a way of rating 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.160 eggs similar to Willy Wonka, where you know they got 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:50.840 most of their ideas from UM. But yeah, I think 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:53.480 they go. I think it's rare that you would find 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:56.480 like a dozen Grade B eggs, and it's really good 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:59.240 marketing to walk into a store and say, well, I 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:02.440 buy Grade A in your spot on. Then they do 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:05.360 go into liquid eggs, which is referred to as breaking 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:10.160 stock and also for baking pre made baking mixes and 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:13.560 stuff like that, or more assembly line baking kind of 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:17.560 situations like pre made cakes and cookies and stuff like that. 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:20.480 So they're not like bad. They just have thinner whites 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:24.680 and less symmetrical yolks. But they're not there's nothing wrong 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.280 with them, they just aren't as pretty. What kind of 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:31.400 stop body shaving eggs did not approve? I also just 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:33.600 want to add, but even speaking of all the varieties 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:36.560 of eggs, you even in some regular grocery stores you 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:40.000 can buy like quail eggs or duck eggs. They are 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:44.040 really yummy and interesting, you know, for things like tartars 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:46.400 and stuff like that. But you are seeing them more often, 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:50.280 not just in specialty stores. I found that kind of interesting. Yeah. Again, 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:53.040 it's it's a different world from the eighties, right uh. 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:58.040 And if you fast forward to two thousand, you'll see 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:04.640 the exact same garden variety dozen grade eight eggs now 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:10.240 cost one cents, so they've gone up seven cents, and 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:15.360 you know, for a lot of people, especially in three 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:19.360 you would say seven cents. When's the last time I 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:22.360 had I even like held a nickel in two pennies 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:25.560 in my hand? Why do we even still make pennies, 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:29.240 you know, which is a great question. Uh, so that 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:34.120 businessmen can use them for power moves on there. That's 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:36.720 finely as pennies. But but let's talk about that. So 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:40.360 we're talking about the the average price from nineteen eighty 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:43.920 to two right, And that doesn't mean that that was 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:46.200 just the price the whole time and it just rose 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:51.160 a little bit to get up to that number. The 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:53.600 price fluctuated, right, and you just imagine it like a 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:55.720 little wave that's going along the price of eggs, just 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:58.160 depending on what's going on. So the price of eggs 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:01.280 between nineteen eighty and two thousand hit a high of 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:04.440 one dollar thirty two cents and a low of sixty 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:08.200 eight cents. So that's that whole supply demand thing kind 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:12.399 of giving, pushing and uh, moving around a bit until 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:16.760 you end up with that average of cents. Yeah. Yeah, 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:21.320 so there would so there were similar conversations, to be clear, 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:26.440 between night and two thousand, Like in that twenty year 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:31.360 inter interval, there were conversations where people were being if 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:34.959 you'll pardon me a little bit chicken little about the 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:37.760 price of eggs, and they would hit, you know, this 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:40.600 high of a dollar thirty two and people would say, 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:42.760 what does this mean? You know what I mean, the 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:47.040 end is nigh. Let's look at another like, you have 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:49.720 to take the long view with this. So two thousand, 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:55.520 the price of those eggs again, not the fancy eggs, 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.600 not not the fancy eggs with the nice drawings on 0:17:58.640 --> 0:18:02.800 the on the packaging and all that, all that white 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:10.160 eggs right with with the like styrene containers that are 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:17.160 going to outlive civilization. Yes, so like yeah, I love 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:22.600 thinking about that. So um, those eggs continue to increase 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:27.480 in price, and over time steadily we're looking at a rise, 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:30.440 not just sort of a you know, like an up 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:34.040 and down graph like a heartbeat. Uh. They go from 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:39.280 cents in two thousand to two dollars and nineties seven 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:46.120 cents in September. Unt your earlier point, Matt. That's when 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:51.960 another variable intervened. Avian flew a bird flew outbreak right, 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:56.200 oh man. No, no one knew how COVID nineteen would 0:18:56.240 --> 0:19:02.520 impact the world comparatively a much less substantial flu. But 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.720 not to diminish that people died from Avian flu. You know, 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:10.000 there were definitely fatalities and also it certainly put a 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:12.800 hitch in in some economics as well with this sole 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:16.199 egg situation. And you may remember that outbreak I believe, 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:20.760 is it H five N two talked about. I can't 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:24.560 remember if that was the outbreak. It's a deep cut yeah, 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:29.800 H five into Uh. This was found throughout the Midwest 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:37.280 US in UM chicken and turkey farms. Wow, meadows really 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:45.600 excited about that. Okay, no leave it in UM. But 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:48.320 but we're gonna get into it today. Because avian flues 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:53.919 are very common, unfortunately common. There are outbreaks, not on 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:57.960 a yearly basis necessarily, but I don't know. I can't 0:19:57.960 --> 0:19:59.960 put a number to it because I wouldn't be accurate, 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:02.320 but I'd say on an average of like every five 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:06.000 years you hear about a major avian flu outbreak of 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:11.080 some sort. Yeah, And part of that goes into you know, uh, 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:17.960 factory farming practices, right, like the the the closeness, the 0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:22.520 the constant over medication. I mean, the way creatures are 0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:26.120 bread It's it's really gross. And don't they don't they 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:31.560 feed them with like crushed up egg shells as well? 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:35.240 It doesn't that go into the tap and that's bad, 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:38.000 I think in terms of long you know, long term 0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:41.840 health effects you know, to the birds. Let's get these 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:48.400 birds prions. So prices remain stable then, but they're at 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:52.120 a new normal. The days of a d four cents 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:56.359 egg cartons are gone and prices are stable. But there's 0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:59.600 another bird flu outbreak like you alluded to, Matt in 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:04.080 twenty eighteen. Uh, there's another peak in twenty twenty due 0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:08.480 Judy COVID pandemic. But a few years ago everything seemed 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:13.960 to change. October, the average price of a dozen eggs 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:20.600 in US cities hit three dollars and forty two cents nationally, 0:21:21.080 --> 0:21:25.240 and in some places people saw a dozen eggs cost 0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:28.919 four dollars or more. So this is the kind of 0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:33.680 thing that would even give Patrick Bateman from American Psycho 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:36.760 a pause. You know, he probably had someone go to 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:40.560 the grocery store, but even even he would have thought, 0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:44.520 that's a lot. Yeah, I kind of imagine Patrick Bateman 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:47.359 maybe being in the same boat as a Lucille Blue, 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:51.959 maybe having zero idea how much anything costs outside of 0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:54.160 like a roll Ac, you know, or a Rolls Royce. 0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:57.240 But yeah, I mean it's a lot. But my mind 0:21:57.280 --> 0:22:02.200 immediately does also say three bucks or something that's relatively 0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:05.480 stable and lasts you quite a long time. Isn't like insane, 0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:08.879 But maybe that's me speaking out of school. I don't know. 0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:11.480 I mean, it really is more the sticker shock of 0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:15.119 the rise, but not necessarily the actual number, because you know, 0:22:15.240 --> 0:22:17.800 buy a dozen eggs, it'll last me easily a week, 0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:21.640 if not more. I sometimes worry that I I will 0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:24.000 have eggs in my fridge I have gone bad because 0:22:24.040 --> 0:22:26.880 I don't use them enough. So I'll sometimes just by 0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:31.200 half a dozen eggs. I do that too. I'm right 0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:35.560 there with you, guys, because I don't personally uh I mean, 0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:39.840 I'm I'll eat pretty much anything, but I don't personally 0:22:39.960 --> 0:22:42.240 love eggs, which I think is why I'm good at 0:22:42.240 --> 0:22:47.080 cooking them. I have sort of this dispassionate objectivity. Uh 0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:49.360 So I'll do a Gordon Ramsey move with it. But 0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:52.160 you can admire their versatility. Well that's a good yeah, 0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:54.479 you know, it's a good way to check someone's culinary chops, 0:22:54.520 --> 0:22:56.800 just to to get them to scramble some eggs or 0:22:56.840 --> 0:22:58.720 make a quick omelet. And if they can't do that 0:22:58.760 --> 0:23:02.000 and they overcook them or make them rubbery, then they're there. 0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:07.840 There's chefs I've eaten some of the uh the best 0:23:07.880 --> 0:23:11.440 eggs of my life quite recently. But you know how 0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:13.840 it is, like, Okay, you go to a function and 0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:17.520 and someone says, oh, and there's an omelet bar. That's 0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:21.120 always a disappointment to me. It's like, really, I could 0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:23.560 have eaten before I came, you know what I mean? Like, 0:23:23.600 --> 0:23:28.119 what am I gonna do with this omelet at seven pm? Whatever? 0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:30.080 I think? I think the omelet bar flex is just 0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:32.399 that you have a human who's there to cater to 0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:36.439 your every omelet whim. You want some mushrooms in it, 0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:41.159 some Parma ham perhaps, you know, the world is your omelets, 0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:43.760 And I'm like, can I just can you just give 0:23:43.800 --> 0:23:46.280 me a play like with some ham and just throw 0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:49.080 the mushrooms on it? Man, I'm not I'm not trying to, 0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:52.800 you know, hassle you here. I will shoot you. I 0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:54.720 don't want your court of steps. Get out of here 0:23:56.800 --> 0:23:58.840 really quickly. You can mentioned court of Stupps. I just 0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:02.000 heard an ad for some sort of mushroomy supplement product 0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:05.600 and they very proudly advertised that court Acceps were one 0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:07.359 of them. I don't think they got the memo about 0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:09.760 the last of us. I wonder if that company is 0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:12.800 doing damage control, and they're like, please do not mention courts, 0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:14.960 do not mention the Last of Us and the same 0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:17.159 breath as our product. You gotta get your body used 0:24:17.200 --> 0:24:23.480 to him now, so later, like like the dread pirate 0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:28.160 Roberts and Princess Bride, like accumulate or acquire a tolerance. 0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:31.280 But also also, you know what, I'm gonna say this, 0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:35.119 since I was, I was giving eggs a hard time. Um, 0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:38.040 maybe Last of Us is a lot of anti court 0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:43.080 ACEPS propaganda because what like, look, humans are really crap 0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:46.959 in the bed, So what what if there were some 0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:49.880 sort of fungal hive mind that was a little bit 0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:55.480 more civilized, you know, like it wasn't all rampaging, zombie, 0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:58.160 ever expanding kind of thing, you know what I mean? 0:24:58.240 --> 0:25:00.600 Like what if this is just like take over one 0:25:00.680 --> 0:25:03.359 country and then it's like, hey, also I've been a 0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:07.720 you know, plausible fusion and space power. The reason why 0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:12.119