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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Noel. They called

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Speaker 1: me Ben. We're joined as always with our super producer Paul,

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Speaker 1: Mission controlled decond. Most importantly, you are you. You are here,

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Speaker 1: and that makes this the stuff they don't want you

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Speaker 1: to know. Uh, this is our This episode reminds me

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Speaker 1: of the original Iron Chef. Do you guys remember the

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Speaker 1: original Iron Chef? Yes, yes, which is literally translates to

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Speaker 1: go kitchen uh uh. Every time the every every time

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Speaker 1: the chairman had a it was introducing a theme ingredient.

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Speaker 1: The chairman would have this, um, this weird kind of

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Speaker 1: vague speech about it, which we're gonna skip because we're

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Speaker 1: not Iron Chef, and then the host would host would

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Speaker 1: come in like the voiceover guy and extol the virtues

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Speaker 1: of whatever this was, whether it was you know, avocados, eels,

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Speaker 1: or in this case eggs. So just to do that

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Speaker 1: really quickly, Oh the humble egg. Look upon its simplicity,

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Speaker 1: you'll discover brilliance. The shape evolved to withstand me read

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Speaker 1: precious the material inside a culinary helen of Troy, a

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Speaker 1: yoke that launched a thousand dishes, you know, And it

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Speaker 1: goes on and on. I'm keeping it short because I

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Speaker 1: know I want to make sure I don't bore you out.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but eggs, right, we don't think about that.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about them in the past. We talked about

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Speaker 1: and I think we're we're not all on the same

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Speaker 1: Like some of us love them, some of us take

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Speaker 1: them or leave them. But they're they're fun to cook

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Speaker 1: at least, right, and you can do them hundreds of ways. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I was intrigued. That sounds pretty gross to me.

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Speaker 1: some people just any level of undercooked egg is a

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Speaker 1: You know, we always heard of salmonella, but yet somehow

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Speaker 1: People would say it depends on the quality of the egg.

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Speaker 1: The way of which was weird. And you know, we're

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Speaker 1: are going to be very familiar to people who raise

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Speaker 1: the average person. Right, Like this is weird. It could

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Speaker 1: Eggs can be an ingredient, they could be a side dish,

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Speaker 1: you can do all sorts of interesting things with them,

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Speaker 1: shouldn't surprise us that eggs have become the source of

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Speaker 1: not one, but several conspiracy theories. We're not talking about

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Speaker 1: d egg distinction. Uh, We're not talking like bringing bringing

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Speaker 1: which is very real and horrific thing. We're talking about

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Speaker 1: different theory. It's something that a lot of our fellow

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Speaker 1: conspiracy realists have asked us and reached out to us

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Speaker 1: about recently. Wire eggs. So it's suddenly so expensive, Sorry

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Speaker 1: of the great egg expiracy? Etcetera, etcetera, and so forth.

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Speaker 1: or there's something wrong with the egg. Which one came first?

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Speaker 1: It's the immortal question. It's true. Um, that's because eggs

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Speaker 1: a whimsical billionaire thing to do to say, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to take out a ton of It's actually on my

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Speaker 1: um okay. I think all of us love food episodes.

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Speaker 1: And you know, whether you love eggs or whether you

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Speaker 1: table economics, they we'll call it. When you hear economists

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Speaker 1: historically shocking, right when when you see from this span

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Speaker 1: sudden go out the window. Why are eggs incredibly expensive? Uh?

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Speaker 1: In December of last year, the Bureau of Labor Statistics

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Speaker 1: found egg prices had jumped by in just one year

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Speaker 1: October to October. And then UH found another statistic from

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Speaker 1: STATISTICA that looked at December to December and found egg

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Speaker 1: prices rose by sixty So whatever acceleration is happening is

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Speaker 1: happening such that it's gaining speed between October November December.

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Speaker 1: And so there's kind of you know how like oil

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Speaker 1: has different grades, and there are different ways to rate

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Speaker 1: average oil prices futures, right, futures. Yeah, and the the

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Speaker 1: idea of like sweet crude versus you know, other stuff

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Speaker 1: that's not as cool as sweet. Definitely not as sweet,

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Speaker 1: but just as crude. Uh, there are there's something like

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Speaker 1: that in the world of eggs. Midwest large eggs are

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Speaker 1: are kind of the benchmark for eggs sold, you know,

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Speaker 1: by the dozen and shells, and they hit five dollars

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Speaker 1: and forty six cents per dozen, meaning that you could buy. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, you could buy a king's ransom of eggs

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Speaker 1: in the nineteen eighties for for what one doesn't cost

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Speaker 1: you today, even adjusting for inflation, pandemic supply chains, bird flu, etcetera.

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Speaker 1: This was unexpected. Sorry, moving on, so here we are here,

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Speaker 1: we are I know we're going along with the setup,

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Speaker 1: but this is worth it. In the past few weeks,

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Speaker 1: there have been tons and tons of social media posts,

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Speaker 1: including viral TikTok videos, that have claimed to discover a genuine,

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Speaker 1: vast conspiracy to raise the price of eggs or eliminate

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Speaker 1: consumers ability to create eggs on their own. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: they've accused everyone from huge food companies to a course

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Speaker 1: can uh, to big Pharma, and to of course, reigning

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Speaker 1: conspiracy King Bill Gates. Uh you know he held that

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Speaker 1: title play well, he holds that title on our show, right.

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Speaker 1: Um we if you have a better title for Bill Gates,

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Speaker 1: please let us know. Uh conspiracy and I heard radio

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Speaker 1: dot com. But that's our question today. Could there be

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Speaker 1: more to the story than the good old economic conspiracy

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Speaker 1: of supply and demand, which I positive is a conspiracy.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that and more after a quick word

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Speaker 1: from our sponsor, Big Egg. We're back. I love the

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Speaker 1: idea of big egg. Oh yeah, that's the biggest, the

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Speaker 1: biggest of egg, the Dodo egg. Great reason, Like Matt,

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Speaker 1: I gave you a hard time for it. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's bring back the Dodos. We can, we can, we

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Speaker 1: can end world hunger those giant eggs. Can you imagine

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Speaker 1: you just had a couple of Dodos giant egg That's

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Speaker 1: all you need. That's all you need for the whole week,

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Speaker 1: Giant Toto eggs and the flintstones. And here's where it

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Speaker 1: gets crazy. All right, there's mainstream theories, conspiracy theories, you

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Speaker 1: can call them, about eggs. One of the one of

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Speaker 1: the main proponents of this is uh, Fox News correspondent

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Speaker 1: and the heir to the Swanson food empire, Tucker Carlson.

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Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson blames the Biden administration and says the mass

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Speaker 1: media apparently everyone except for Fox News, UH is ignoring this.

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Speaker 1: And I didn't want us to to misquote the guy,

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Speaker 1: so went ahead and pulled like an excerpt, kind of

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Speaker 1: the thesis statement of what he's been saying on his program.

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Speaker 1: Here's what he says about He said he says the

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Speaker 1: problem is with the chicken feed, and he's basing I

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Speaker 1: think a lot of his claims on those social media

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Speaker 1: posts we mentioned. He says, some of them, some chicken

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Speaker 1: farmers have noticed something odd. Their chickens aren't laying eggs

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Speaker 1: or as many eggs. And these chickens don't appear sick

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Speaker 1: with avian flu. They're not dying, they're still alive. They're

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Speaker 1: just not producing eggs. Now, healthy hens lay eggs on

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Speaker 1: a regular basis every twenty four to twenty six hours.

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Speaker 1: But suddenly chicken owners all over the country, not all

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Speaker 1: of them, but a lot of them are reporting they're

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Speaker 1: not getting any eggs or as many. So what's causing that?

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Speaker 1: Clearly something is causing that. Some have concluded their chicken

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Speaker 1: feed may be responsible. Some have right, uh so some

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Speaker 1: it's weird because in some people, well, to my mind,

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what's happening, right, And I don't know. I'm

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Speaker 1: I always trying to picture how else I would say that,

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Speaker 1: because when you look at those social media videos, it's

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Speaker 1: not every account that has chickens and egg laying chickens,

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00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: but it is some of them. Yeah, so would you

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Speaker 1: say a few but it's more than a few. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. It was just weird because I, you know,

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Speaker 1: like I disagree with Tucker Carlson on many, many most

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Speaker 1: things and dislike the way he presents things. But I

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Speaker 1: was like, oh, this feels right to me. But just

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Speaker 1: and again, you know that's part of critical thought, right

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Speaker 1: you if you have disagreed with someone in the past,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean you should automatically throw out whatever else

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Speaker 1: they're saying. There's a reason, people, there's a reason that

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Speaker 1: broken clocks are right twice a day, right to use

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Speaker 1: the old, to use the old figures speech here, adult chestnut. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what are the poet w s merwindn't say a quotation

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Speaker 1: is a a quotation is a good substitute for wit

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Speaker 1: or something like that. I'm so, I'm aware of the

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Speaker 1: danger of those kind of cliches, but yeah, it's it's

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Speaker 1: a really important point, Matt, And I don't know the

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Speaker 1: better way to say it either. Uh. But Carlson does

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Speaker 1: a couple of things. He also brings up a recent

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Speaker 1: fire in Connecticut where a number of chickens died. Right,

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Speaker 1: and the number of chickens varies, but it was a

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Speaker 1: lot of birds, and he says, Hey, it's it's strange

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Speaker 1: that meet other media companies don't cover this. They don't

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Speaker 1: think it's a story at all. And this reminded me

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Speaker 1: immediately of the allegations that there was a coordinated attack

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Speaker 1: on the US food supply infrastructure. We did a pretty

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00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: pretty dope piece on this that has yet to make

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Speaker 1: it out into the public. Um. Well, we can't really

529
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: spoil it, but hopefully it gets there one day and

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Speaker 1: then you know. Side note, if you're looking for coordinated

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Speaker 1: infrastructure attacks, you should be more worried about your local

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00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: power grid because that's where people are gonna go, right.

533
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: It's it's way easier than getting into the water or

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Speaker 1: waste treatment plant. And it's not as um mouse trappy

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00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: and complicated as attacking the food the food grid. But

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Speaker 1: well why not just attack the feed grid? There we go,

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00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: ding ding ding. Yes, Okay, so there's that. This is

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Speaker 1: the biggest theory, and this is what um pundits like

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Speaker 1: Carlson are referring to the dominant version of this theory,

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Speaker 1: which I know makes it sound like a strain of COVID,

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Speaker 1: but whatever is. Basically the gist is this large food

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Speaker 1: manufacturers have conspired to make consumer owned chickens incapable of

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Speaker 1: laying eggs by putting some nefarious, dodgy stuff in the

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Speaker 1: chicken feed, forcing those people to buy eggs from the

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Speaker 1: grocery store while increasing the price of eggs with the

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Speaker 1: goal of ensuring higher profits and making the overall population

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Speaker 1: increasingly less self sufficient in general. Yeah, the concept here

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Speaker 1: for me is to target any operation that buys feed

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Speaker 1: of in smaller amounts than what the absolute largest amount

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Speaker 1: of feed you can buy would be for these these

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Speaker 1: huge factory farm operations. Right, so you target any and

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Speaker 1: this is this is me theorizing about the theory. Okay,

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00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: this is not Matt saying things that are absolutely true

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Speaker 1: or proven. I think the conspiracy theory here is to

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Speaker 1: target anyone that is lower than a large farm. Right. Yeah,

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00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 1: that's nailed it, because why would they target themselves? Right?

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Speaker 1: The ideas, So, the idea would be for for this

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Speaker 1: to be true, then there would have to be some

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Speaker 1: other feed that is not sold on the market, that

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Speaker 1: has kept internal that only only the um culprits use.

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Speaker 1: And this this has gone everywhere of places like TikTok personally,

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Speaker 1: or I would say largely because in my opinion. At

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00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: least it's got something really clever. It's based in a

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00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: true conspiracy. They're not really that many food manufacturers that

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Speaker 1: what seems to be a diverse marketplace full of a

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Speaker 1: thousands of competing brands is really when you think about it,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of a theater played out for you every

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00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: time you visit the grocery store. Yeah, it's packaged, you know,

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Speaker 1: and and and sold to you as something different. But

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00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: it's all kind of coming from just a handful of

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Speaker 1: places a hundred percent. It's a if we want to

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00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: make another another dated reference, uh, it's like that movie,

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Speaker 1: or it's like the recent reboot of Nutty Professor where

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Speaker 1: the main cast is all played by Eddie Murphy. Right,

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Speaker 1: it looks I mean it's recent compared to the original

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00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: Nutting Is that Flubber? Yeah yeah, and there was also

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Speaker 1: the Robin Williams one. It was just called flubber. Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh. Eddie Murphy's Nutty Professor came out in nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety six. Yeah. Wow, Okay, wait, time isn't real. No,

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Speaker 1: it's an illusion and the first week were only sure

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Speaker 1: his eggs as eggs. The Nutty Professor movie storry Eddie

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Speaker 1: Murphy came out nineteen hundred ninety six and it was

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Speaker 1: based on nineteen sixty three Nutty Professor. Okay, cool, we

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Speaker 1: sorted that out. That's the burning question that made everybody

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Speaker 1: listen to this episode. They were like, I know it's

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Speaker 1: his eggs in the title, but they're going to get

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00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: to the Nutty Professor. I trust these guys. And if

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00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: you want to feel really old and weird and how

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00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: time is ephemeral, the distance between that original version and

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Speaker 1: the Eddie Murphy version isn't that far off between the

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Speaker 1: distance from the Eddie Murphy version. And yeah, don't forget

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00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: about the clumps, guys. Yeah, So there's this idea that

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Speaker 1: just a few companies own a load of stuff and

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Speaker 1: they're not really transparent about it. That's real. That is

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00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: not a theory. That is a genuine conspiracy, and it

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00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: is enacted upon you every time you go to a

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Speaker 1: grocery store or your local bodega. But let's start there.

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Speaker 1: Who manufactures chicken feed? Then there's one TikTok account in

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Speaker 1: particular that went viral about the chicken feed conspiracy that

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Speaker 1: several of our fellow conspiracy realists sent in as a

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Speaker 1: matter of fact, I think some of us sent in

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Speaker 1: several different takes on this, and and matt Um and no,

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Speaker 1: I think we all we all watched some of these

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Speaker 1: uh and they have variations, but the variations on a

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00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: theme m in one in particular that's up pretty frequently.

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Speaker 1: We've got a host with her own chickens who claims

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Speaker 1: her crew has stopped laying eggs, and voice is concerned

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Speaker 1: that large companies might be putting something in the feed

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Speaker 1: to prevent the hens from lane from going back to

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Speaker 1: laying eggs. And then this host goes on to trace

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Speaker 1: the shell of companies and brands that produced the feed

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Speaker 1: she's been getting for chickens, going from Purina Mills to

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Speaker 1: Land Lakes, to Calmine Foods and so on. The tracing

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Speaker 1: of these companies is largely correct, yes, X, until you

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Speaker 1: get to the purenas of it all, because I know

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Speaker 1: there's like multiple companies within Purina, and there's one that

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Speaker 1: one that deals with cat and dog food and then

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Speaker 1: Purina that's specifically for large scale animal feed. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the the Purina Mills is the um is that feed thing.

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Speaker 1: Regular Perenia is owned by Nestley, not Land of Lakes

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Speaker 1: both of them originate from a company called Rolston Purina

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Speaker 1: back in theres. This is how they get you. You

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Speaker 1: know what I mean is that I don't get it

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Speaker 1: owned by the shine Heart wig company, all of which

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Speaker 1: are of course owned by shine Heart Porcelain Wigs. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I and Ben I would agree. That's that's one of

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Speaker 1: the primary, let's say, styles of videos. So we've seen

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Speaker 1: that one in particular, but then a lot of them are,

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Speaker 1: as you said, just somebody who has chickens, usually a

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Speaker 1: small flock that they used to grow their own eggs.

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Speaker 1: And the most common thing I've heard been is, uh,

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Speaker 1: the chickens just stopped laying eggs a while back. We

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Speaker 1: just haven't gotten eggs since you know this X time, right,

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Speaker 1: And we switched the feed last week or yesterday or

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Speaker 1: whatever time ago they switched the feed. Now our chickens

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Speaker 1: are laying eggs. And then here and then usually here's

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00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: an example of what the new feed looks like, that

638
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: we now created our house rather than the store bought kind.

639
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: That's the one I've seen, right, Yeah, I've seen that. Um,

640
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: I almost want to call the genre now I've seen

641
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: that that as well, where someone is saying I'm not

642
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: going to give you a grand conspiracy necessarily, but here's

643
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: what's happening in my neck of the woods, which is

644
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: totally awesome, super valid stuff that if we want to

645
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: play along at home with this idea of evil company conspiracy,

646
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 1: let's go bigger. Because one thing a lot of these

647
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: videos don't mention is that they're of the top ten

648
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: animal feed manufacturers in the world, only three are based

649
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 1: in the United States. Number one is called CP Group.

650
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: They're out of Thailand. Number two is New Hope leh Uh,

651
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: which is out of China, and number three is Cargill,

652
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: which is out of the US. And there are another

653
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: company that owns tons and tons of stuff. Purina is

654
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: only number four, meaning that if you are buying animal

655
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: feed in the United States, statistically, you're more likely to

656
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: be buying it from Cargill, right unless you shop at

657
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: one of these stores. There's several around here where I'm

658
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: living right now, guys that specialize in feed. And I

659
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: took a little walk through there and Purina was one

660
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: of the primary brands, at least on display. I noticed there. Okay, yeah,

661
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: because it might be like a pepsi coke thing, there

662
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: might be kind of a soft regional monopoly, right. Well,

663
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: and I'm especially thinking if you're buying enough feed for

664
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: a small flock of chickens at your home, right country, Yeah, yeah,

665
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: you don't got to buy the giant barrels of it.

666
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: You just you know, buy enough to feed your chickens

667
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks. Yeah, And that's I mean,

668
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: I think that's a that's a great point because again,

669
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 1: a lot of this goes back to the divide between

670
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: commercial manufacturers and people at home who want to be

671
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: maybe in their mind a little more healthy or a

672
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: little more self sufficient, both of which are absolutely admirable goals.

673
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: But we've got to drill down into the way things

674
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 1: are versus the way things are portrayed, right on both

675
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: both sides of this argument. The folks who are saying

676
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: everything is dire and disastrous and the folks who are

677
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: saying everything's fine, don't look behind the curtain, don't check

678
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: in the henhouse to keep walking. Yeah, So with that,

679
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break to hear from our pals

680
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: at Big Egg, and then we'll be back. And we

681
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: have returned. So one of the things that we've we

682
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: laid out here is that, despite the way it might

683
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: be portrayed in some of these videos or some of

684
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: these reports, again with the best of intentions, Perina and

685
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: its ultimate owners are not the largest outfits on the

686
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: block at this point. Stories of switching from one feet

687
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: to another to encourage laying of eggs, they seem really good, right,

688
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: and they they seem positive. They end on an inspirational

689
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: or cautionary note, which is a really good kind of

690
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: It's like a good mouth feel for your mind. Uh

691
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: in the end with a C T A often yes,

692
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 1: like here's something you can do right, which popularizes them.

693
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: You want to share it? Hey, do you have do

694
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: you know anybody that has chickens? You should watch this.

695
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,439
Speaker 1: So people are even like dog and cat food, there's

696
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: different kinds that are like, you know, shiny coat or

697
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,720
Speaker 1: what ever it might be. And maybe if your dog

698
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 1: is by the way, Matt, you you recommended uh fish

699
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 1: oil for preventing dog shedding, and let me tell you, buddy,

700
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 1: We've been using that on our geriatric dog Jude and

701
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: the shedding has almost disappeared. It's kind of miraculous. So

702
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: uh the day, thanks you for that, as do I

703
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: UM big win there, but again, you see these different

704
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: varieties of animal feed um for various dietary reasons, perhaps

705
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: sensitive stomach and things like that. So why wouldn't that

706
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: be the case with with chickens to you know, encourage

707
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: certain um digestive behaviors or perhaps better egg laying practices. Well,

708
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: and this is what I'm finding right now, guys, whole

709
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: green feed. I'm seeing mash, I'm seeing pellets, I'm seeing crumbles,

710
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: and I know nothing about actual chicken feed and what

711
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: it looks like or what's inside of it. But I

712
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: went to uh, what is this backyard chicken coops dot com.

713
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: You can also go to trade groups like the American

714
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: Feed Industry Association or if yea UH to learn more

715
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: about various types of livestock feed. And no, I believe

716
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: you are to a degree cred Now. I I wasn't

717
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 1: in the fish oil conversations. I I don't know about that,

718
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: but I do know that, UM, yeah, there will be

719
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: different There are different varieties of feed that are not

720
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: just based on shape, but also based on content, right,

721
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: And that's a big thing that people are doing with

722
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: their homemade feed. Is there exercising the ingredients that they

723
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: feel maybe nefarious. Yeah, absolutely, it's content. And the stage

724
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: of your chickens are at. Are they chicks? Did you

725
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: buy a bunch of chicks and they're growing, or do

726
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: you have new chicks that are growing. There's a feed

727
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: for that. Do you have chicks that are trying to

728
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: lay eggs, there's a feed for that. And I think

729
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: that is the feed that most people are focusing on,

730
00:46:55,840 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: the layer feed, like as in chicken egg layer feed. Yeah,

731
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: and this look. Uh. The other thing is that these

732
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: videos don't have They typically do not include the controls

733
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: you would expect in an experiment, right the and when

734
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: we say controls, that means what you want to do

735
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: is make sure that everything about a situation is the

736
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: same except for the one thing you want to test,

737
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: the one variable you want to fox with, and that

738
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: variable would be the feed or ingredients in the feed.

739
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: But we don't see all these things being controlled for

740
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,919
Speaker 1: in a lot of these videos. And the tricky part

741
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: there is that decrease in egg output can be affected

742
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: or infected by all sorts of stuff bad nutrition, Right,

743
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: That's that's feed really related, but also temperature can affect

744
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 1: whether or not chicken will lay an egg. Parasites, viruses.

745
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: Stress on chicken can also influence things. Um, there could

746
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: be hormonal changes, which again could be food related. Uh.

747
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: Then there's the idea of we should hear from some

748
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: more people. I know we've got a lot of uh

749
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: can fellow conspiracy realist who owned chickens. So let's hear

750
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: your stories, folks. What what you think about this, because

751
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna shift what you think about the feed because

752
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: we're gonna shift to another thing. It's a little more

753
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: out there, Big Farmer and the COVID cure, which is

754
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: a great name for a Southern rock band, but also

755
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: a totally other brand, a totally different branch of chicken theory.

756
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: There's the idea that powerful okay just set up the

757
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: goal post here. Uh, there's this idea that one eggs

758
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: provide a natural protection from coronavirus. So this theory accepts

759
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: the covid is real. Two powerful pharmaceutical interest are purposely

760
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: pushing eggs off of grocery shells, disincentivizing people from buying

761
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: them because they don't want folks to know that eggs

762
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: can cure coronavirus. Those are the basics. What do we think, um, okay,

763
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 1: so what do we know about eggs preventing coronavirus? I

764
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: have not that's new to me. Yeah, it's it's new. Uh,

765
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: it's new to me as well. Uh. And it's not true.

766
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: Is the issue? This is conclusively there's no sand to it. Well,

767
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: but then we got a problem here already. Yeah, yeah,

768
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a tough it's a tall milkshake, right. Um.

769
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: And if we're wrong, if there is solid proof the

770
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: eggs prevent corona virus, then please please do reach out

771
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: and touch space, you know, uh and let us let

772
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: us know. Yeah, uh, touch wood as they used to

773
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: say back in the day for superstitious and touch eggs.

774
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: Smooth as eggs. Smooth as eggs. Oh, your rown personal

775
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: guiche is right' that's the winner. And here's another another

776
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: kind of out there theory, the idea this is related

777
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 1: to coronavirus as well, which so why we're grouping them together.

778
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: The idea that chicken feet is being adulterated, contaminated, injected

779
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 1: with m R in a such that it is altering

780
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: the nature of the chickens who consume it such that

781
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: they no longer create eggs. So this has a lot

782
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: in common with the idea that um COVID nineteen vaccines

783
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: would alter the the genetic makeup of people who got vaccinated.

784
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: M So we were Maderna vaxing the chickens through their

785
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: feed somehow, Yes, because that's the most direct way to

786
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: affect things. There's absolutely nothing that could go wrong. Like

787
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: Mitchell and website and their conspiracy theory um sketches, what

788
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: we're looking at is a watertight hit. Um. Guys Avian

789
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,879
Speaker 1: flu is on the rise. It's a real problem right now,

790
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: how are we going to get this mr NA and

791
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: these chickens. Well, first we need to make a virus,

792
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: so it's like, go on, whether it's a virus for

793
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: humans is the thing? Ah, Then we can test out

794
00:51:55,280 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: our new vaccine technology, which includes gene therapy on the

795
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: humans first, because as we know, the ruling class of

796
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: chickens will of course never consent to experiment it on

797
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: chickens first. Right, Okay, well we solved it. Uh, this

798
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: is where alright, So these things are all in the air.

799
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: And of course, anytime m r NA is brought up

800
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: in a conspiratorial tone, Bill Gates gets mentioned, right, and

801
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: the idea is that he is somehow participated in this.

802
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: The evidence pointing to him being related. It all goes

803
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: back to stuff that we explore in our book. Stuff

804
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,240
Speaker 1: they don't want you to know. Uh, we did find

805
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 1: a We did find something funny. We mentioned a FEA

806
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: or a f I, a American Feed Industry association. They

807
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: got so heated up about all this stuff that they

808
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: wrote a blog post just a few days before we

809
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,720
Speaker 1: recorded this, and the title sounds so irritated. Did because

810
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: it's like it's in all caps the website. Yeah, No,

811
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 1: there isn't a conspiracy around in chicken feed and reduced

812
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: egg production, you fools. Well, yeah, according to you, Victoria,

813
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just choking. I editorialized that, you fools bit,

814
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: but it's implied heavily. Yeah, guys, I honestly don't know

815
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: enough about this stuff. Like I'm sorry, I'm going back

816
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: over this concept of of m r n A somehow

817
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 1: getting into feed, like as ribonucleic acid in the feed.

818
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: I don't know enough about gene therapy. I don't know

819
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: enough about how it functions when you shoot it into

820
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: your arm with the Maderna vaccine and your you know,

821
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: your body changes to manufacture the stuff to prevent you

822
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: from getting sick from coronavirus. How could that same type

823
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 1: of substance work through the digestive tract. I just don't understand. Yeah,

824
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: how's it even possible? Also? To what end is this?

825
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: You know? That's usually the question that I asked first

826
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: with a lot of these conspiracy and I think we

827
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: all do, is what what's the point? What is this

828
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: meants to accomplish? It's just sort of cool to have secrets.

829
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm I'm plagiarizing Mitchell and web There. No, no, it's

830
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: a great question, like, to what end? Right? What? Why

831
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: are we doing this? The RNA thing? Maybe we can

832
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: feel some of the questions here, Matt. The RNA thing

833
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: comes from comes from social media. There's no there's no

834
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: scholarly paper on it, at least not that I could find.

835
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,919
Speaker 1: There was no substance of study. What I did see

836
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: was a lot of TikTok stuff, a lot of Facebook

837
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 1: videos where people are claiming that quote. They're saying things

838
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 1: like I'm just pulling this from the USA Today articles

839
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: saying the same stuff quote. I found plenty of information

840
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: about using RNA sequencing and feed and dealing with chickens

841
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: that this could be potentially it uh, and they there's

842
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: a narrator on this TikTok and you see screenshots of

843
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: very scientific looking studies on the feed. But that doesn't

844
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: matter at all. Uh. The issue is RNA is not

845
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: an ingredient and chicken feed and it doesn't need to be.

846
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: If you wanted to inject RNA into chickens, you would

847
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Speaker 1: be in the catbird seat because RNA is already in chickens. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think it's more to modify MR kind of thing. Yeah, yeah,

849
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Speaker 1: I think there's just some disconnect in understanding here, um

850
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Speaker 1: in people who are you know, postulating that this is

851
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Speaker 1: what's happening. But I think there's also a disconnecting how

852
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: it's being explained, because yes, RNA is in everything, DNA

853
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: is in everything, but modifying it is a new technology

854
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: that has emerged, and you know, I don't know, it

855
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 1: does freak me out a little bit. Same not saying

856
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying this theory is true about the feed,

857
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Speaker 1: you know, changing the chickens somehow, But I think sometimes

858
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Speaker 1: it's being downplayed so hard by people who are like, no,

859
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Speaker 1: it doesn't work that way. They're kind of like not

860
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Speaker 1: necessarily in this post, but I don't I don't want

861
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Speaker 1: to make anyone feel dumb for not understanding the same

862
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: way that I don't understand that makes sense, Like I

863
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 1: think it's it's a it's a general lack of understanding.

864
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Speaker 1: And also when we have this kind of stuff that's

865
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Speaker 1: fast tracked, and I know it's not new technology, but

866
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: we've yet to have enough time to truly see the

867
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Speaker 1: implications of of of jamming the stuff into our next

868
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Speaker 1: you know. I mean that's the case with a lot

869
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: of this kind of thing that you know, we won't

870
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: truly see the big picture um uh results perhaps for

871
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: for many many years. And you know they say there

872
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Speaker 1: are none, but therein lies another example of trying to

873
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: be you know, thoughtful. He's skeptical, right exactly. And you know,

874
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Speaker 1: I appreciate these points because one of the things I

875
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: looked into about this, with none of us being geneticists

876
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: folks scandidly is I said, all right, well, we know

877
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Speaker 1: that there is some sort of regulatory body, at least

878
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: in the United States for this kind of this kind

879
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: of stuff, uh, and we know that oftentimes in the

880
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:29,959
Speaker 1: past they've been cartoonishly crooked and easily corrupted. That's why

881
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: so many of the words on the front of your

882
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: cereal boxes don't mean dick um. But so so I

883
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: looked into this um and there are approved ingredients for

884
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: commercial feed synthetic RNA, which is what I think we're

885
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: talking about, right, lab lab modified RNA that could change, uh,

886
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: change what the chickens do biologically. That is not an

887
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: approved ingredient formmercial feed. But then again, knowing how crooked

888
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: these institutions have been in the past, or how mislead

889
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: they have been, right, Uh, it's easy to understand why

890
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: people might say, well, how much do you trust or

891
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: how much trust can you put in this? And again

892
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: this is not a dying on the U s d

893
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: A or the f d A. There are tons of

894
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: people who are getting vastly underpaid to do their absolute

895
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: best and it just happens that it just happens to

896
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: be the case that in the past, very large financial

897
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: interest have screwed over the consumer through those regulatory bodies.

898
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: Those are simply facts they conspired to do. So it's

899
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: not a theory. So you see why we have a

900
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: hard time trusting this. But also it just seems like

901
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: the the science there would have to be proven, or

902
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: the suppositions would have to be proven. And I want

903
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: to point out the ax the thing we always have

904
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: to say about sources. If you already or convinced something's up,

905
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: are you gonna believe this angry blog post by the

906
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: American Feed Industry Association of all people, after we just

907
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: dunked on the weird, weird practice of trade groups putting

908
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: out commercials for themselves, like you can see why it

909
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: would be tough to trust it, you know. And in

910
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: this in this post, and I got not a ding

911
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: on the writer who is doing nor on the experts

912
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: that she's consulting. Victoria Brome is talking with an animal

913
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Speaker 1: nutritionist named Paul Davis, and Paul Davis also works also

914
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: as a colleague works with the a f i A

915
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: and talks about some of these concerns and brought up

916
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: some stuff where they talk about the inner related field

917
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: of variables that can affect these things. And from Davis

918
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: we find a blog post from a guy named Jason

919
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: Lusk which points out a kind of an economic answer

920
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 1: and ask the question that I think haunts everybody here.

921
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 1: How can a small ish production in the supply of

922
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: eggs have such a big impact on the price of eggs.

923
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: Those prices, to be clear, increased six and lusk answer

924
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 1: is that the demand is in elastic, meaning there aren't

925
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: great substitutes for eggs, and people still buy eggs even

926
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: when prices rise, so it takes a big increase for

927
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: customers to cut back because people are again so used

928
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: to eggs. But I I gotta say that answer. It's dry.

929
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: It's as dry as overcooked scrambled eggs. Uh, And sometimes

930
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: dry answers are the truth. But it feels like there's

931
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: something to the concept of price gouging here just because

932
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: and I know we're going along, we need to wrap

933
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: this up. But so many companies have successfully gouged prices

934
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: and they didn't step them back when things started to

935
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 1: return to normalcy, you know what I mean, gas prices,

936
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: that's a great example. Yeah, No, the price of gasolene

937
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: does make sense there when it comes to how eggs

938
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: have continued to be expensive. But it does. I don't know.

939
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: It feels like something else is going is going on,

940
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: because I would have to believe that there's such this

941
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 1: large number of people reporting on social media about their

942
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,919
Speaker 1: chickens not laying eggs all of a sudden, and then

943
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 1: changing the feet and now they're laying eggs again, I'd

944
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: have to believe they're all lying. But also there are

945
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 1: there also other conditions that like, you know, don't chickens

946
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 1: have to be kind of comfortable to lay its, Like

947
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: maybe maybe there's something to do with like climate, varia,

948
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 1: gens and things, other conditional changes that aren't necessarily to

949
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: do with their nutrition that could be causing some of

950
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: these shortages extreme, right, but yeah, stress, temperature, even even

951
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 1: changes in the chickens around them. Right, there are all

952
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 1: sorts of factors they can in variables they can intervene here.

953
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: But also another dangerous social media that we don't talk

954
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 1: about too too often is that social media is a

955
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 1: dopamine casino that is entirely based Yeah, tanking, and so

956
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: it is. Also it's not only it's not only plausible,

957
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: but it's almost certain that at least a few people

958
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: kind of played up some stuff. It's like a trending

959
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 1: topic or video or sound or one of those things.

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01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: We're learning about this a lot. Yeah, we're we're cooking

961
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,919
Speaker 1: live on these uh. And I don't even like saying that.

962
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 1: It does have to be said, but I don't like

963
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: saying it because it sounds dangerously close to dismissing people

964
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 1: who were giving the genuine account of their experience. That's

965
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: not what we're doing. We're not saying everybody as a

966
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: cloud chaser. We're just saying you have to be conscious

967
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 1: of the dangers and pitfalls of social media. Right. But

968
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: there does I mean it is inescapable. Uh, the the

969
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 1: inflationary forces affecting eggs are real. Uh. The question is

970
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 1: what I think? The question is what kind of conspiracy

971
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 1: is a play? And maybe this is something our fellow

972
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: conspiracy realists can help us out with. Do you own eggs? Sorry,

973
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: that's the new flex. Hey baby, I wanted some eggs?

974
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Speaker 1: Check out my egg collection. Yeah, but definitely let us

975
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,919
Speaker 1: know about your egg collection. Do you got any golden ones?

976
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: Perhaps some fabroge. You can find us on the internetural

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