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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Taking a Walk Podcast, the show where

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Speaker 2: Buzz Night talks with musicians about the inside stories behind

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Speaker 2: Kenny has a resume that extends across genres and eras,

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Speaker 3: Well, Kenny Aaronoff, Welcome to this virtual edition of Taking

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Speaker 3: a Walk. I'm so grateful that you're on let's talk

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to talk to him. He didn't look

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Speaker 1: I remember telling Don he said, oh man, he should

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Speaker 1: point I was like, no, it's Bob Dyling. Now I

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Speaker 1: don't care who it is. But back then I was like,

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Speaker 1: you know, So never spoke to him again, and I

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Speaker 1: did Music Cares where we are Bob and and Bob.

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Speaker 1: You know, for those who don't know music, here is.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like when the Grammys are. I was

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Speaker 1: supposed to do it this year honoring don Jovi. But

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Speaker 1: if you're in the band, you know, you play with

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Speaker 1: like nine artists, it's incredible. And on that one, I

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Speaker 1: think I played with I think I played with Mellencamp

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Speaker 1: Jackson Brown, Cheryl Crow together, that type of thing. And afterwards,

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Speaker 1: Bob came up to me and goes, good job, Kenny,

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Speaker 1: that's huge. You get Bob Dylan come up here. It

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Speaker 1: was funny story with that because we had a satellite stage.

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Speaker 1: We're the main stage to share. But we go out

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Speaker 1: there and we do this song with about thirty verses

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Speaker 1: something a lot of verses with Jackson Brown and Cheryl

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Speaker 1: Crowe and I go and all of sudden we're told, well,

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Speaker 1: to Jackson Dude, why are we dropping? That's my favorite

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Speaker 1: first man? Those lyrics are amazing, And he laughed at

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Speaker 1: me and says, because that guy told me to and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, who I look over in the dark in

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Speaker 1: his shadows was Bob Dylan, And Bob Dylan told them

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Speaker 1: don't do that first to that verse that Bob picked

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Speaker 1: the artist, pick the songs. He was very in control

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Speaker 1: of how he wanted to be presented. I thought that

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Speaker 3: That's freaking awesome.

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Speaker 1: Great.

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Speaker 3: So, Kenny and closing, who haven't you worked with that?

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Speaker 3: You'd like to work with.

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Speaker 1: Led Zeppelin, Jimmy Hendricks and my favorite band for a

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Speaker 1: while was going to be Stinging on vocals and bass

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Speaker 1: Who That would have been cool. Uh So, yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: kind of where I'm at. Oh, I'd love to be

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Speaker 1: in the Food Fighters. That'd be fine. I love Dave Go,

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Speaker 1: I love all those guys, and they're a real rock band,

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Speaker 1: like you know, the real thing and who this is

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Speaker 1: going around. I would love to be with them. Anything

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Speaker 1: that's authentic like that, where with every musician has a

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Speaker 1: voice and has a face, like old school the way

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Speaker 1: you used to be, you knew everybody in the band.

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Speaker 1: I love that kind of thing. The band vibe a

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Speaker 1: team thing.

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Speaker 3: I love that you are a treasure, my friend. I'm

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Speaker 3: so grateful that you got to be on the Taking

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Speaker 3: a Walk Podcast. Kenny.

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Speaker 1: Welcome, man. I ain't going nowhere because I'm Kenny Aronoff.

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