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Speaker 1: minute call, your okay checks a five minute call. You're like, okay,

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00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: so I gotta go. Yeah, I get it. So yeah,

429
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: you had to stay there. I wanted to come home,

430
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: but I'm not a quitter. And once I got through it, um,

431
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: it was the best thing that ever happened, because then

432
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: I was able to go. You know, it was just

433
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: that pressing and getting through. And once I got through. Uh, Scott,

434
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 1: Scott's a living Scott was the every champion and care

435
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 1: every champion is to be a champion, a champion, and

436
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: care every a being and carry chappion champion and carry

437
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: chappion and carry chappion and sports. And then the taming

438
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 1: can naked work, carry chappion and carry champions. To be chapion,

439
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 1: a champion, they carry champion, Champion, they carry champion, they

440
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: carry CHAPPI do you um now looking back on that

441
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: time and and and you can speak to so many

442
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 1: differences of what it is versus what it what it was,

443
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 1: but you still hold so many first and I'm not

444
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: even I haven't even touched y'all. Like she's like she's

445
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,959
Speaker 1: a business woman, Like she like she could save you

446
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: some money. She is, uh like not, that's just this

447
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: basketball thing, which is something you loved. You went on

448
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 1: the head and did it even on another level in

449
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: the world of finance, which is uh amazing in itself.

450
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: How did you decide, because you've been able to live

451
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: in both worlds, how did you first ball? How did

452
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: you just like finances where you wanted to live where

453
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: you always something someone who said I want investments, I

454
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: want to do so. So you have to understand basketball

455
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: is the most exciting thing to me in my life.

456
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: I love I see it, I see it. Yeah, so

457
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: now it goes away. What is gonna excite me the

458
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:26,719
Speaker 1: way this game does? Money? Oh okay, it excites me too, funey.

459
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: Let's have some fun. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I

460
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: wanted to make money. I mean, what else was there.

461
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: I've traveled all over the world, you know then what

462
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: I wanted to do. But what can I do next?

463
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: You know, I love helping people, don't get me wrong,

464
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: But I was young, you know, I wanted to make

465
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: some money. I wanted to buy some things, So you

466
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: then where did you? I have a resume of places,

467
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: but i'd rather you tell me. I don't know if

468
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: I'm accurate. So then when you were done with basketball

469
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: and whatever couple that you you took it as far

470
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: as you could go because there there was no w

471
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: NBA at the time, and then you decided to turn

472
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: to finance because we're gonna make some money. What how

473
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: what was your approach to that? That seems so intimidating,

474
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: especially not just you know, because it's an intimidating numbers

475
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: are hard, especially women. We always have the same way. Really,

476
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to deal with that. I know I

477
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: do at a lot of times. So what made you

478
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: say this is where I want to live. Well for

479
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: somebody who says I, I think that if you looked

480
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: at it, you would love it. You know. It's it's

481
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: just it's a strange thing. It's it's exposure. Really. But

482
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: in in the sport, I learned that I could do anything.

483
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: That's what the coach always told me. Hey, you can

484
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: play that position, you can play that position, you can

485
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: do this. I went to college. How did I do that?

486
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't encouraged. You know, I've figured it out along

487
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 1: the way and once our story winning on some levels

488
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: that I didn't know that I could, especially being a

489
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: student athlete, which is tough. Um I was on my way.

490
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: So um I was playing uh in Japan. I left

491
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: Europe and now I'm in Japan. But I played for

492
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: a company called die Wash Securities, which is a m

493
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 1: A brokerage firm. My team, my friends played for the

494
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: Bank of Tokyo, so they worked for the Bank of

495
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: Tokyo and they played basketball. What I wanted to work

496
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: for my company, but I couldn't understand the kneek exchange.

497
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: So I thought, okay, no problem. When I go home,

498
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start looking at the Dale Jones and I'm

499
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: gonna figure this out. Well, you know, I have not

500
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: a lot of money, but it's not really a lot

501
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: of money. At that time, it was time and money.

502
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: So you put your money up early, it'll growth for you.

503
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: And I knew that. And so when I got back,

504
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: um I I was. I came back and worked a

505
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: job and as an athletic director. Uh I met a

506
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: lady who was on Wall Street. She came to a

507
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: golf tournament that we had and you know, we're usually

508
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: in the position or I've seen it this way where

509
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: you know you're asking for a check, you know you're

510
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: you're on the receiving end. But here comes his sister

511
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: in there, and she's got this big check in her hand,

512
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: you know, the big cardboard, and she's donating to our program.

513
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: She had a program called from Wall Street to Your Street.

514
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: And I said, I want to be her. I don't

515
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: want to be the one be seeing that. I want

516
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: to be the one giving it away. So I went

517
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: and started to have a conversation with her. Um, we

518
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: kind of hit it off, and she started telling me

519
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: about the business, and UM, she said, you know what,

520
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: you would be great for this business? Like really, I said,

521
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: you don't know what I've been thinking. Just prior to that,

522
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: you know, I had put my little money with my

523
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: little stock broker. I called my broker, and I was

524
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: trying to figure out if I could retire. Didn't have

525
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: near enough money. Embarrassed to say so, But what I

526
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: what I learned was you if you don't ask the

527
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: right questions, you're not gonna get the answers, you know.

528
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: And so I don't feel like she was answering the

529
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: questions that I wanted. So I kind of got mad

530
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: and went and bought all these books from the you know,

531
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: um from the bookstore, trying to learn about Wall Street

532
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: and investing because I wanted to be able to help

533
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: somebody and answer the questions that weren't answered for me.

534
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: And that's how I got into it. And when I

535
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: met her name is Pat Winnings, who had came to

536
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: our golf tournament and gave us that check. I talked

537
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: to her and she saw my passion. She said, you

538
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: know what, if you're interested and being you know, learning more,

539
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: here's my card. You called me Monday, and uh, you know,

540
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: I was excited the whole weekend, but I called her.

541
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: Uh she told me that there was a place around

542
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: the corner that I could uh go and get some books,

543
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: take a class, get my series sevens license, and she

544
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: would teach me the rest. And she was from New York.

545
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: I'm in Kansas City. But there was a guy that

546
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: came on every lunch hour that uh, you know, talked

547
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: about investing. I made an appointment with him. I went

548
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: to his office. I said, look, I got this book.

549
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: I've got to learn it. Can you help me, and

550
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: he just broke it down for me. Just here, you

551
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: study this this week, this next week and followed through.

552
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: I've given you the map. You don't deviate, you will pass.

553
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: And that's what happened. And so I passed my test.

554
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: And I wanted to go to Texas because I was

555
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: intimidated by New York and MS Winnings. She was expanding

556
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: to Texas, but she said, hey, on that you know what,

557
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: you all learn this stuff, you gotta come to New York.

558
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: You may as well get in the mix. And I

559
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: went to New York. Um a city that I feared,

560
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: a city that I came to love. It wasn't that

561
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: big monster once I got used to not speaking to people. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

562
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: it was great. Uh it was when the market was

563
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: at its all time high. Uh. I mean I saw things,

564
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: I experienced the best of the best, and uh, you know,

565
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: it's it's been a great experience. Can deserve you deserve

566
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: all of that. Now, do you still practice? Do you

567
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: still work in finance? You give off advice or you

568
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: are you fully retired? No, I'm not fully retired, but

569
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: you know I do watch the market. I am invested

570
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: in the market. Uh. I I reserve. I guess giving advice.

571
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: You really know me and trust me, you know, yeah,

572
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, A little, a little change you

573
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: gotta have. It's just yeah, no, it's it's scare money.

574
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: Don't make money. This is a business for folks who

575
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: are ready to do it. But that's great. It don't

576
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: make you no money. So you gotta go out there

577
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: and be like I believe, I trust me. I. But

578
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: you can do it systematically, yeah, you know, and just

579
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: just do it over time. And I tell you, you know,

580
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: it'll come back and help you one day. So let's

581
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: talk about and I and I and I and I'm

582
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: making our right turn back to basketball folks, because you know,

583
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: I love the sports. Um at thirty eight, at thirty

584
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,719
Speaker 1: eight years old, which I think is young, thirty eight

585
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: years young, you decided to join the w n b A.

586
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: And that was because that was the opportunity given to you,

587
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: as it was for so many of the grades who

588
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: never had the opportunity to play in the level right

589
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: out of college. You guys have to go overseas, so

590
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: they're forming the w n b A. And who I

591
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: want to know how to call kan? Was it? Hey?

592
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: I hear this is happening, or was someone like, hey, link,

593
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: look we need you. We're about to do it. I

594
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: heard about it. And you have to understand, growing up,

595
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: you always wish that you at a professional league like

596
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: the guys, the times we're overseas, we're lonely, we're sitting talking.

597
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: Why can't we be doing this at home? You know?

598
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: And then finally it opens up. Well it's at the

599
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: end of my career, but that's okay. I decided, Okay,

600
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: if I can get in shape, yea, if I can

601
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: get in shape, I'm gonna at least try it for

602
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 1: a year. And uh I was able to just work

603
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: hard enough. I mean I did everything you do. I

604
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 1: did boxing, I did running, I did swearing. I mean,

605
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: I did so many things to try to get my

606
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: body back in shape so that I could go up

607
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: and down the floor the way you have to in

608
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: a professional league. Um. But somehow God gave me the

609
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: grace to do it, and uh I was part of

610
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: that inaugural season. UH played great, didn't get an injury,

611
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: played for two years, and was able to walk away

612
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: from the game. And more importantly, you you had a dream,

613
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: real lies do you? You had? You were able to

614
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 1: take part in something that was denied for so long,

615
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: for so many of these great I mean, like, I

616
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: don't think people understand, Like now you can go to

617
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: school and say I want to be a doctor, I

618
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: want to be a politician, I want to be a

619
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 1: practitioner or whatever field I want to create my own.

620
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: But you can no one saying no to you. The

621
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 1: opportunities are endless, and you were told no. You and

622
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 1: so many other grades were told Noah, me as fans

623
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 1: of the sport and people of the sport were denied

624
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: the opportunity to watch you do what you do best

625
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: and I and for me, you being able to have

626
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: that two years, one year, six months, Like, that's a

627
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: beautiful thing. That's a beautiful thing. Yeah, the beautiful thing

628
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: is that. Uh for me, it was never there. But

629
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: once I got to that point, a door would open.

630
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: So I just had to continue to do what I did,

631
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: just train, be discipline and keep the faith, and when

632
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: I get to that junction, the door would Man, I'm

633
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: also not doing That is the most amazing thing that

634
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: has happened in the whole you know, So you know

635
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: you're like I was prepared. I was prepared because you know,

636
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: for preparation meets opportunity, and this is what you're gonna do.

637
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,479
Speaker 1: You like, I gotta get ready. I'm gonna get ready.

638
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,479
Speaker 1: You already have the skill set to get ready. Okay,

639
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 1: I gotta box, I gotta do all the things. You

640
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 1: better to me though, because I'm lazy, but I don't

641
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: do physically. No, I hustle. I hustle, but physically i'm

642
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: my Do we have to run? Are we running? My

643
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 1: chest is burning the heart, you know, it's working hard.

644
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: Every champion and carey Chappion is to be a champion,

645
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: a champion and carry Chappion and carry Chappian a Chappion

646
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: and carry Chappion and carry Chappion sports and then the

647
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: tam making make it work. Every Chappion and carry CHAPPI

648
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: is to be a Chappian, a champion and champion. Then

649
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 1: the very first right here we go with our first

650
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: because we love it. The very first woman to be

651
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: a part of the globe trotters. I need to to

652
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: that experience being the first. It's um sometimes I'm not

653
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: using the right word. Sometimes it's overrated in terms of

654
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 1: the glory that you think that comes with it, because

655
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: it's so really it's really difficult to be the first,

656
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: um because of things that happened. Uh that we we

657
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: the ordinary pedestrian person watching them from the outside doesn't understand.

658
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: All we can see is the first. We're doing this

659
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: with the Harlem Globetrotters. That's amazing. It's a big deal.

660
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: Can you walk me through that, because I want to

661
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: make sure I understand the particulars of being the first. Yes,

662
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: first of all. Um. However the courtin is line up.

663
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: However God does things. I had a cousin who played

664
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: with the Harlem Globetrotters for over twenty four years. His

665
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: name is Hubert Geese Osby. He was a showman, one

666
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: of the greatest trotters to ever be a trotter. If

667
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: you will, uh, if you google him you will see um.

668
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: But he would come to our family picnics and as children,

669
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: Uh he do his ball hammling for us, and we

670
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: were amazed. I was amazed at the wizardry, the way

671
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: he could spend the ball and do all these tricks.

672
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 1: It was just I just loved it. And I found

673
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: myself in the spare time when I wasn't shooting the

674
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: basketball on the court, I would try to do the

675
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: ball hamdling tricks, the wizardry that I saw him do,

676
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 1: I would try to imitate it. And so I said

677
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: to myself one day that even when I stopped playing

678
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 1: basketball and no one else know that I can play,

679
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: I will be able to pick up the basketball and

680
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: still be able to do the risidry and show you

681
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: some glimpses of of the past. And so I always

682
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: worked on that. If I saw someone do something that

683
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: I thought was fancy and I liked, I would go

684
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 1: to them and ask them to teach me, and they

685
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: did so. Over time, I had strunk together a nice

686
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: little routine with the ball, and I practiced it every day,

687
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: got very good at it. Um, it was my dream

688
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: to play for the Harlem glow Trotters. As a player,

689
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: you always pretend to be somebody or to be a

690
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,439
Speaker 1: part of a team. And my team was the glow

691
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: Trotters because of my cousin, and so that's why my

692
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: style went that way. And um, so this dream, this

693
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: was when I was, you know what, six seven years old.

694
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: I help this dream until I was twenty six, and

695
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: it came to fruition. But when I was in college,

696
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: I told my college coach of this dream. She helped

697
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 1: me write a letter to the Globe Trotters. I really

698
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: thought it was gonna go to the front office and

699
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: they gonna understand. But I realized what I became a

700
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 1: Globe chrod. There's a bag of male like Santa Claus,

701
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: let's going to let But it felt good writing yet,

702
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: you know, Uh, at the point after the Olympics um in,

703
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: which was in Los Angeles, California, the Globe Trotters were

704
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: in the stands and as they're known for innovators, they

705
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: were looking for somebody to help revived them because they

706
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: had kind of, you know, gone down a little bit,

707
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 1: and so they had that great idea, Hey, we're gonna

708
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: have a female. They came to the games, they saw

709
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: that we could play, and they wanted to make it happen.

710
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: I didn't know this at that time. A month later,

711
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: and we've got the gold medal. I'm home resting and

712
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: who gives me a call on the phone. It's my cousin,

713
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: Geese Osby. So he's calling me to congratulate me about

714
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: the gold medal. Well, this is the first time that

715
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: I can ask him, Hey, what do you think about

716
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: a female being on the team. This is something I

717
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: dreamed about all my life. Um, but he didn't answer

718
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: me the way I thought he would. I thought he

719
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: was gonna say, oh, yeah, you know what, that's a

720
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: great idea. Let me go to management. You know, maybe

721
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: we could work something out for you. Uh. It didn't

722
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: go like that. His response to me, I was, you know,

723
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: and that. You know, I don't know if my teammates

724
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: would go for that. I don't know what it would

725
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,959
Speaker 1: be like for a woman to be on the road.

726
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't meet any hard, but he was

727
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 1: just trying to yeah. Yeah. And so I remember hanging

728
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 1: up the phone a little downhearted because I had believed

729
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 1: this dream. I had spoken this dream. I told everybody

730
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: from who would listen to me, if this is going

731
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: to happen. So I'm really beginning to feel like maybe

732
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: they thought I was, you know, kind of crazy because

733
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: I loved it too much and I maybe should step

734
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: off the train. But I wouldn't do it. Uh, it

735
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: was so much a part of my spirit. Uh. I

736
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: had read something just recent lee from that time that

737
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: I spoke to him that if ever you pray, you

738
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: say exactly what you want, don't beat around the bush.

739
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: Pray retail versus wholesale. That's how I read. So that

740
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: meant to me, say what you want in your prayer.

741
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: So I went to bed that night and I prayed.

742
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: I said, Lord, I want to play for the Harlem Globetrotters.

743
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: I said, no one knows what I'm thinking. You know,

744
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: you could either take this out of my heart and

745
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 1: I can go on and buy anyone's standards. I have enough.

746
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: I got a college degree, I gotta gold medal, I've

747
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: been overseas, I traveled around the world. I've got all

748
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: these things. But it's something in my heart that I

749
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:02,959
Speaker 1: want to continue to play. Can you it happen for me? Yeah?

750
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: So I saw I left it. Uh, he didn't answer me.

751
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: He didn't call me back the next day. But what

752
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: did happen? I could not stop training, and so I

753
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: continued to train. Uh. It was about six weeks. I

754
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: go down to the basketball office. I'm just dragging. I'm training.

755
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: I just go in the office. I picked up the paper.

756
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: It was the U. S A Today. At the top

757
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 1: of the paper it said that the glow Chatters were

758
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: going to go co ed for eight six season. My bird,

759
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, what this is it? Oh my god, he

760
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: heard me. It was like it was answering. He didn't

761
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: say I was gonna make the team, but he heard

762
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: my prayer, which meant to me, you know, if this

763
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: is not it, I do have something for you. I

764
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: heard you. I heard you. And so after that, the

765
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 1: Glove Chrotter has had a tryout in Charlotte, North Carolina.

766
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: Women were invited all over the United States. We then

767
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: went to Burbank, California, had another trial. Because they couldn't

768
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: make a decision at that time, we joined the Globe Trotters. Uh.

769
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: That's where we got acceptance really because they realized that, hey,

770
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: women can't play this game. The game has improved, and

771
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: so theyby came open to their idea and it was

772
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: like it was magic after that. So after a week

773
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: of training, Uh, they wind us up like it was

774
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 1: a pageant. Uh and and my name was called and uh,

775
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: it's just a blessing, a dream come true. I'm from Kansas.

776
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: My mother's name is Dorothy. She has all the yellow

777
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: brick road all the way there. I love it all.

778
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: We went to the oys, we asked for what we

779
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 1: wanted and they gave it to us. Okay, So I

780
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: want to tell you because we have all of this

781
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at all my research. I think that

782
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: if you're listening, there is so much um, there's so

783
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: much to talk about there. I think I read this

784
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: meme once that said, you have several careers, you have

785
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: several reincarnations of who you are. We've we've only touched

786
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 1: on a few, but we haven't gotten into the coaching

787
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: career aspect of it. And I don't want to go

788
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: too deep, but I know that it says here returned

789
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: to Kansas City and you were the assistant coach of

790
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: the women's basketball team, and then you were you went

791
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: on to coach on your own um at the university

792
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: would uk oh well already had the financial which you

793
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: were at Winthrop Eagles women's basketball team. That was the

794
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: one and that was in seventeen. So you have had

795
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: and I don't even think we've gotten to what the

796
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: what the the finish line is because there's the story

797
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: is still being written. But you didn't have and it's

798
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: not unusual for people to go from playing ball in

799
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: that level and being a coach, because you're one of

800
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: the first, you know the fundamentals of it all and

801
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: you've you've seen it all. Um, what is the most

802
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: rewarding thing for you about coaching? Uh? To share the

803
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: knowledge of the game. UH, to lift players up, to

804
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: help them with their confidence. Uh. There's so much you

805
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: can learn in the game that you can take with

806
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: you in life. But you gotta learn teamwork. UM, you

807
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: gotta you can learn leadership skills. UH, you learn discipline,

808
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: you gain your confidence. UH, you get a voice, You

809
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: learn to fight, and then you learn to win, and

810
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: then you learn to lose. What happens when we lose, Well,

811
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: there's a system that you go through. When you lose,

812
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: you go back, you get the stats, You look at

813
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: where your short falls were, You work on them. Uh,

814
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: you study your opponent. Uh, you find ways to win.

815
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: But it's a systemic way that you can do it.

816
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: So that you know, if life, you know, gives you

817
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: a flat tire, you just don't freak out. You Hey,

818
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: you can relax. How you figure out what the problem is.

819
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 1: You can go back and and stand up and and

820
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: and that's yourself off and know you're coming back again.

821
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 1: I think people who are UM in in organized sports,

822
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: in high school level, collegiate level, UM You guys are

823
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: obviously better leaders in a lot of ways. So it

824
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: does make sense to me to see someone such as

825
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: yourself coaching because you you do know how to lose.

826
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: You talk about losing as a process and you go

827
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: back and figure out what went wrong so you can

828
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: correct it. That that is invaluable in life, like in

829
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: every aspect of life. Right, we sometimes don't I won't

830
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: even do that. I'm like, I'm pouting I didn't win,

831
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: and the joke and I and I and I and

832
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: I'm mad and I'm blaming everybody else and I'm not

833
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: looking at how I could have immediately corrected the situation

834
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: so I can win in the next the next time

835
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: of minute. We gotta learn that through a lot of

836
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: falling down. Um, I wonder for you when you think

837
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: about it, is such a by your such a wealth

838
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: of knowledge, by the way, but I wonder for you, Uh,

839
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: what else is next? Because you've been taught that everything

840
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: is possible? So is there more for you? Or you

841
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 1: enjoying where you are in life? Have you been able

842
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: to be content? Because the lesson of contentment is so

843
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: hard to understand and more importantly to practice when you're

844
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: very ambitious. I am very ambitious. UM. I like the fight.

845
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: I like the challenge. Um, you know, I want to

846
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: go to battle every day. You know. I want to

847
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: read something, I want to learn something. I want to

848
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: help someone. UM let's go what we're gonna conquer today,

849
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Speaker 1: and UM it just gives me life. I you know,

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Speaker 1: it's uh, you know, I want to help people have

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Speaker 1: that type of energy. You I mean, especially the way

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Speaker 1: the world is now. You never know what's gonna go

853
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Speaker 1: from one minute to the next, you know. But you've

854
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Speaker 1: got to be Um, you gotta have your routine down.

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Speaker 1: You've got to be ready, uh for the challenges that

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Speaker 1: you face every day. You gotta be focused. You have

857
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Speaker 1: to be crystal clear about what you want, what you

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Speaker 1: want to do, and you've got to be able to

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Speaker 1: uh not let the little obstacles it's gonna flare up

860
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Speaker 1: get in your way. You know, just think of it

861
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Speaker 1: as an obstacle course. You know, Hey, we gotta jump

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Speaker 1: over it is, we gotta crawl under that, we gotta

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Speaker 1: bomb and we've But you just gotta think. When you

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Speaker 1: gotta think victory, you gotta think. I'm not gonna let

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Speaker 1: anything or anybody tell me what's impossible for me. You

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Speaker 1: already did it to me. I don't want to hear it.

867
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Speaker 1: I've overcome that, so you can't tell me now. So

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Speaker 1: it's it's really getting out there helping people. I have

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Speaker 1: opportunity now to work with the Harlem glow Trotters to

870
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Speaker 1: help the young ladies. Uh. They're they're more young ladies

871
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: on the team now than ever before. Uh, there's five.

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Speaker 1: I want to see that number grow. If that number grows,

873
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Speaker 1: that means that maybe one day there'll be a team,

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Speaker 1: you know. And yeah, and and and even for the

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Speaker 1: male players. I mean, I've played with the guys you know. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm set on the bus. We've had conversations. We I

877
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Speaker 1: know what it's like to be out on the road. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, just conversations and and and people knowing where

879
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Speaker 1: you are, an understanding where you are and being uh

880
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Speaker 1: and giving you, you know, loan advice on how to

881
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Speaker 1: make it easier for yourself. Uh, it's invaluable. That's what

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Speaker 1: I want to give. That's what I want to share. Oh.

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Speaker 1: I love that one atte and I think that you

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Speaker 1: are the person to do that. Um. Is there anything

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Speaker 1: that you are working on? I think that I I

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Speaker 1: didn't get to see that in my research. Is there

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Speaker 1: anything that you'd like to promote tell everybody to pay

888
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Speaker 1: attention to, because I'll do that as well. Um when

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Speaker 1: I tell everyone, I wrap up about how great this

890
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Speaker 1: podcast is and how amazing. Okay, um, yeah, I'm working

891
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Speaker 1: on a lot of things. Uh, one being a special

892
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Speaker 1: advisor of course to the Globe Trotters. Um. But also um,

893
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Speaker 1: I I'm working with a company called I own dot me.

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Speaker 1: And what it is is a sort of like LifeLock. Um.

895
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Speaker 1: I don't know how you you can protect your uh

896
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Speaker 1: physical identity with your credit cards or so security cards,

897
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Speaker 1: but this is digital identity. I own me and it's

898
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Speaker 1: a company that helps you protect your digital identity. And um,

899
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Speaker 1: it's uh, it's how does that work? Like? Does that

900
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Speaker 1: mean someone can't change when you say digital identity. They

901
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: can't take your social media handles, they can't data. Yeah. Yeah,

902
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Speaker 1: so you know they might take you know, you may

903
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Speaker 1: take to try to take your brand and market it

904
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Speaker 1: somewhere else about your permission. Uh, And they're sort of

905
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Speaker 1: like the police for okay. Um, you'll you'll be hearing

906
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: about it in the future. But it's a it's a

907
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Speaker 1: of course, it's of course you are ahead. I'm on

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Speaker 1: the front of Yeah, we're also late. You're like, I've

909
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Speaker 1: been doing this, Thank you very much. I've been doing

910
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. I got it all right, Cool, I'm

911
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: not jealous. Just make sure you let a sister know

912
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: I'd be there, um Lenette would. It has been I

913
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: mean really truly a pleasure and an honor and and

914
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: I like I said that word is thrown around too much,

915
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: but you are a true trailblazer. So thank you for

916
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: just sharing whatever knowledge you have to give to the

917
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: folks because we appreciate it. Thank you for having me

918
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: on your show. I have great respect for you. I

919
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 1: follow you. Thank You're my chiro. I like your stands fire. Yeah,

920
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: I'm ready for I'm ready to go to battle every day,

921
00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: as are you. I'm ready for it. So Lynnette has

922
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: done it all. Do we talk about the fact that

923
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Speaker 1: she want to gold medal. I didn't say that she

924
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Speaker 1: want to gold medal when she was in the Olympics

925
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Speaker 1: in the nineteen eighty and Olympics. She's got the hardware

926
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Speaker 1: because she said she liked her trophies. Is there anything

927
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: that she can do I think not. I think not,

928
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,720
Speaker 1: but I also when I hear Lynette's story, I also

929
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: realize how important it is to have a podcast like this,

930
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Speaker 1: to honor our heroes, to honor our our our trailblazers,

931
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Speaker 1: to honor the many first that we know nothing about.

932
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Speaker 1: I'm sure many of you hadn't heard of Lynette ordered,

933
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: but she deserves I praise. And she did it so

934
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Speaker 1: effortlessly effort lesslie. Let's get the word out, effort lesslie.

935
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Speaker 1: And it probably comes with a lot of effort, but

936
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Speaker 1: she makes it looks easy or she made it look easy,

937
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to say. Um, I hope you

938
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Speaker 1: guys learned something today. I'm just trying to figure out

939
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: what my next career move will be ten years from now,

940
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: because if I look at and that, I can do

941
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: whatever I want. Um, I want to be a singer,

942
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: so I don't I don't know if that's possible because

943
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 1: you need to actually know how to sing. There are

944
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: some dreams that you just can't realize singing would be

945
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: one of them. For me. Anyway, thank you guys for

946
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Speaker 1: listening to me. Jabra On Welcome back to the podcast.

947
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: It feels it feels good to be in rhythm, right.

948
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Speaker 1: We got another episode coming at you all next. We

949
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 1: continue to subscribe and download. I appreciate you all for

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Speaker 1: listening to Naked