1 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Hi. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: I'm Laura Vanderkamp. I'm a mother of five, an author, journalist, 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: and speaker. 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 3: And I'm Sarah hart Hunger, a mother of three, practicing physician, writer, 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 3: and course creator. We are two working parents who love 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: our careers and our families. 7 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: Welcome to best of both worlds. Here we talk about 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: how real women manage work, family, and time for fun. 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: From figuring out childcare to mapping out long. 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: Term career goals. 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: We want you to get the most out of life. 12 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to best of both worlds. This is Laura. 13 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: This episode is airing at the very beginning of July 14 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five, July first. 15 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: In fact, we. 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 2: Are going to be doing our annual mid year goal 17 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: check in. So it turns out that July first is 18 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: not the actual midpoint of the year, Sarah, if there 19 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: are three hundred sixty five days. 20 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 3: The middle day is apparently July second. Makes sense that 21 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 3: it's a little bit into that July due to the 22 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: shorter months of February, April, and June. 23 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so that is what it is. 24 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: But we were still going to do the midyear checking 25 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: and as it turned out, so we record an annual 26 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 2: goal episode that tends to air at the very end 27 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: of December every year, but we tend to record it 28 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 2: sort of earlier in December because we're trying to get 29 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: ahead of the holidays, both for our production team and 30 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: because we're often gone and so we can't record too 31 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 2: close to the event itself. But that means that we 32 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: actually were recording this in early June. We are, in 33 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: fact six months from when we recorded our goal episode, 34 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: even if it's not six months into the year when 35 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: we were recording it. 36 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair. I mean a lot of times we 37 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 3: set up our goals a little bit before kind of 38 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: start day, so I feel like this is appropriate. 39 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know, so November and December. I think 40 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: of his resolutions pre season where you can try them 41 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: out and sort of think about what your your goals 42 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: are for the upcoming year. And why do we do this, Sarah, 43 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: Why are we checking in midway through the year. 44 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's such a common challenge that people 45 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 3: will be really good about making goals for the year. 46 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: It's just sort of part of the cultural zeitgeist at 47 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 3: this point, so they just kind of do it. But 48 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: then if you don't actually look at those goals a 49 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 3: year is a really long time and you are going 50 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 3: to lose momentum or even forget what you are aiming for. 51 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 3: Maybe you have a lot of energy go towards things 52 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 3: and from July through January through March, but you know 53 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 3: you want to take advantage of the rest of the 54 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 3: year as well. So I really recommend people look at 55 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 3: their annual goals list every single season. I even do 56 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: that like formally with a group and my little planning 57 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 3: by season group. But Laura does not think we need 58 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 3: to have five seasonal goals episodes on the show, which 59 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 3: is fair. So we do a midyear check in, and 60 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 3: I would say this is the bare minimum in terms 61 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 3: of formal check in with your annual goals. If you're 62 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: not going to do it every season, at least schedule 63 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 3: a midpoint review. 64 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 65 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: Well, we do three episodes that our goal related every year, 66 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 2: because we do our goal setting episode, our midyear check in, 67 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: and then we do our year in review where we 68 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: look at how things went with our goals in mind. 69 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: So three out of fifty two episodes is not a 70 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: small percentage of goal related content, but yes, that's probably 71 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 2: as high as I think we could go to keep people. 72 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: Listening to us. 73 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: So we both listened to our annual Goals episode, you know, 74 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:40,119 Speaker 2: heard past Laura and past Sarah talking about things we 75 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: talked about, our year, our word of the year. Sarah, 76 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: how is that finite thing going? 77 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? 78 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 3: So I entered twenty twenty five kind of like obsessed 79 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 3: with mortality because I had read Jodi Wellmans You Only 80 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: Die Once, and I had read Oliver Berkman's second book, 81 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: and I was just really into that concept. And I 82 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 3: chose finite for my word of the year, which ended 83 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 3: up being like, you know, if you're gonna end up 84 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 3: in the cardiac, I see you a few months later. 85 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 3: Maybe he was a little too much, but at the 86 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: same time, this word is still very meaningful to me, 87 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: and I still feel it was very appropriate. Maybe a 88 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 3: little morbid, but like you know, if you're going to 89 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 3: have an event like that, it really does make you 90 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: look at the preciousness of the time up ahead, maybe 91 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 3: even more grateful for that time and aware that it's finite. 92 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 3: So I think it was just a coincidence. I don't 93 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 3: think it led me to my event in the March 94 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 3: hours of a Goal episode because I'm just I don't 95 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 3: think of things that way. But yeah, I guess, I 96 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: guess I'd say it worked out. 97 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 2: What about you, You're still thinking about it? You're still 98 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: thinking about life in terms of its finitude? Yeah, no, 99 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: I well, I my word was influence, not to be 100 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 2: like an influencer on Instagram. I will not be floating 101 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: around in little nap dresses with sort of hazy photography 102 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 2: with my children and matching outfits behind me. But I 103 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 2: do want to think about ways to use whatever audience 104 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 2: I have platform. I have to try to change things 105 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: to elevate other people, to expand the scope, as it were. 106 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 2: So I've been pondering it. 107 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: I don't know. 108 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: I think it's kind of a daily thing. I'm not 109 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: sure if there's any one particular thing I've done that 110 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 2: would make that obvious. But I do have the word 111 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:34,119 Speaker 2: in mind. 112 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 3: I think all of your soapbox rants are in line 113 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 3: with this goal. 114 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: I say, well, hopefully, I mean influence versus hitting people 115 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 2: over the head with stuff. I maybe there's more subtlety 116 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: to the influence, but we'll see. We'll see anyways, So, 117 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 2: still thinking about that. So, Sarah, we started with kind 118 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 2: of personal goals in the episode, and you certainly had 119 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: some fitness ones. 120 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: How's that going? 121 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 3: Yes, So I collected some quotes from our notes for 122 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 3: the show, which I will share. I wanted to strength 123 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 3: train one hundred times, and then I wanted to qualify 124 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 3: for the Boston Marathon with a safe number, meaning like 125 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 3: enough buffer that I could run the race. And then 126 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 3: I also wanted to, assuming that I had this safe 127 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 3: buffer done, to do some five K specific training blocks. Well, 128 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 3: so for listeners who have are just catching up, I 129 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: went into VTech after a half marathon in March, and 130 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 3: I have since been diagnosed with something called rhythmogenic riteventricular 131 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: cardiomopathy and running is out forever and that's for me, 132 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 3: and that's okay. I've spent a lot of time getting 133 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,239 Speaker 3: used to that and have come to a place of peace. 134 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: But obviously it means just from a goal standpoint, those 135 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 3: are off the list, but I mean in a very 136 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 3: peaceful way because I have no like, I can't self 137 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 3: flagulate myself over something that I just can't do. So 138 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: if I was going to have them removed, I guess 139 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 3: in a way, this is like a good way for 140 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 3: that to happen. Strength training I get an a plus 141 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 3: because strength training was okay and so I've been doing 142 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: that very regularly, kind of like how I used to 143 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: do it when I didn't run at all, and it's 144 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 3: been really nice. I've been mostly using the Peloton Strength app. 145 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 3: I use, like the Hardcore on the Floor calendar that's 146 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 3: available for free on Facebook or you can actually go 147 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 3: to their website, and I use that to do two 148 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: lower body workouts and two upper body workouts a week. 149 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 3: And so I'm definitely going to surpass one hundred. I 150 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 3: don't know if I already have, but like I stop 151 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,239 Speaker 3: counting because one hundred percent, I will be over that number. 152 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, you also wanted to update your wardrobe. 153 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, so number two was that I wanted to get 154 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 3: a couple pairs of jeens, some tops that were not 155 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 3: T shirts, I get a professional speaking outfit, and generally 156 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 3: invest more in clothing that I did in twenty twenty four. 157 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 3: And yeah, I feel like I've actually done pretty well 158 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: with this. I've gotten some new tops, some new genes, 159 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 3: even some new scrubs. I'm still on the hunt for 160 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 3: some specific things, and I have not gotten a speaking 161 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 3: outfit yet a new one, but I really want to, 162 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 3: so I will work on that. And I feel very 163 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 3: much on track for this goal. Okay, reading, My reading 164 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 3: habit goal was I wanted to read for ten minutes 165 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 3: of nonfiction and ten minutes fiction daily. Mostly I meet 166 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 3: this goal. I haven't like tracked it. I'm not a streaker. 167 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 3: I don't love to track stuff like this long term. 168 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 3: But honestly, most days, I well almost every day, I 169 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: do the nonfiction, and I would say like eighty percent 170 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 3: of the time I read at least a little bit 171 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 3: of fiction, sometimes way more than ten minutes. And interestingly, 172 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 3: I seem to just gravitate towards reading about fifty books 173 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 3: a year, Like you know, I'll have periods where there 174 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: are more certain months and certain months where there's less, 175 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 3: but that just seems to be where I am. And 176 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 3: we're recording this in early June, and I'm writ at 177 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: twenty books, so like exactly on track for my normal pattern. 178 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 3: So I think that's fascinating and I'm happy with that. 179 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you are tracking your media right in general. 180 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 3: Yes, every day I write in my plant. I just 181 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 3: have a daily layout that works for me really well. 182 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 3: And I've gotten into the habit of writing now. In 183 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 3: the music I listened to the podcast episodes, the TV 184 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 3: shows the movies, the books, and it's actually become very 185 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 3: like second nature, I think, probably the way Laura treks time. 186 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 3: And I love it because it does make me more 187 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 3: conscious of my consumption, and I don't know, it works 188 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 3: really well for me, so check. 189 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 190 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I did want to do one run per 191 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 3: week with music only. Obviously I'm not running, but I 192 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 3: do probably a commute per week with music only, so 193 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 3: I'll call that halfway win. 194 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: Halfway win, all right, Well, and the running is what 195 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 2: it is, so that's a yeah. No, it's funny you 196 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 2: were saying that, I mean, because it would be different 197 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 2: if you were like, you set time goals and then 198 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: you were just like not able to achieve them. 199 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't feel like doing it, yes, yeah, or. 200 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 2: You're just slowing for reasons that you couldn't figure out, 201 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: and that would be frustrating. 202 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: But it's not that. 203 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: It's that it's completely off the table. So that's a 204 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: sometimes that clearly is easier. It's easier, it's easier in 205 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: some way. And also the interesting point about things becoming 206 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 2: second nature so you don't even set them as goals. 207 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: I mean, so time tracking. I celebrated ten years of 208 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: time tracking this April. But I haven't set that as 209 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: a goal even in years, even though I continue to 210 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: do it. 211 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: It's just that it's something that happens. 212 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 2: So We're going to take a quick ad break and 213 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: then I'll be back with some of my personal goals 214 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 2: for the year. Well, we are back with our annual 215 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 2: as it were, midyear goal check in. Sarah has been 216 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: sharing how she did on her personal goals. I had 217 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 2: sort of I think slightly fewer, but one of them, 218 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 2: I did decide to listen to all the works of Beethoven, 219 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 2: working through a calendar that's called Complete Beethoven Online. Somebody 220 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 2: did this a few years ago in twenty twenty for 221 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 2: the two. 222 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: Hundred and fiftieth anniversary of his birth. 223 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 2: They chose the selection to listen to every day, and 224 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: in fact chose linked to the particular performance that you 225 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 2: are supposed to listen to as an example of this 226 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 2: particular work of Beethoven. So I've been faithfully moving through that. 227 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 2: I am halfway through the year. As we are halfway 228 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: through the year now, I've really been enjoying it. I 229 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 2: didn't think I was going to like it as much 230 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: as Bach and I probably don't. But on the other hand, 231 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: Beethoven's got a lot of really good work too, and 232 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: it's been fun to listen to it because I'm also 233 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: getting the commentary. I think I'm learning a little bit 234 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 2: more about him and his life and gosh, even like 235 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 2: his business model, like how was he making money? Like 236 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: how did a nineteenth century composer support himself? And there 237 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 2: are various ways you would do that. I mean, you 238 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 2: would write music for balls and then you would sell 239 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: the sheet music later, and this is how you would 240 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 2: make your living as an influencer. So far in that 241 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 2: time period is. 242 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: A whole lot. 243 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 3: Like is it in chronological order? 244 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is an in chronological order, more or less 245 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 2: because some stuff we don't know right, like he didn't 246 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: date exactly when he or he was working on things simultaneously. 247 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 2: But it's more or less. I also decided to read 248 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: Anna Karnina. I did decide to go for that, and 249 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 2: I am currently six hundred pages into the nine hundred 250 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 2: page book. 251 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: I read a chapter a day. 252 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: It is only about two hundred and seventy chapters, so 253 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 2: I think I will end this summer at some point. 254 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 2: At the end of the summer, I decided to eat 255 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 2: produce for breakfast, and I have stuck with that every 256 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 2: day except for two days. I know exactly which two 257 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: days I did not do this, and both were when 258 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 2: I was traveling, so I was less in control of breakfast. 259 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: So I haven't entirely figured out how to solve that problem, 260 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: but I'm sure I will figure it out eventually. 261 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 3: Get Apple sauce pouch with I don't know if that counts. 262 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. That sounds kind of gross, Yeah 263 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: it does. 264 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 2: Sorry, but it's been pretty easy to stick with at home, 265 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 2: and I think it's been good because it's just way 266 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 2: to get a little bit more. 267 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: Fiber in the morning and to have another serving of. 268 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 2: Fruit and vegetables to keep me full a little bit 269 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: longer versus just eating my eggs. 270 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: And then strength training. 271 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: I am still working out with my I said, like Sarah, 272 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: do one hundred a year or sort of at least 273 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: do it regularly. I am still training with my virtual 274 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 2: trainer once a week, and then I always do at 275 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 2: least one additional session or two on my own, shorter 276 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 2: than the time I do with him. 277 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: But I do this exercise. 278 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 3: Ye, by the way, because I feel like three years 279 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 3: ago or so before you hired your trainer, you were like, 280 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 3: I don't do strength at all. Then you moved to, Okay, 281 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do a little bit on my own. Then 282 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 3: you did the weekly trainer, but you weren't really doing 283 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 3: the second session. And now you're doing the trainer and 284 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 3: you're doing the second session. So I mean, like, I 285 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 3: think you should appreciate your progress, like slowly. 286 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: Slowly building up, which is good. 287 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 2: And who knows, Like what's I think the back pain 288 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: episodes I was I was having have been reduced a lot, 289 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 2: and maybe the strength training, It may be other things. 290 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 2: I don't entirely know because it wasn't a clear cut 291 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 2: coordination with any of this. And I was strength training 292 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: pretty regularly before I had my back episode two, So 293 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 2: who knows. But I'm happy that at least that has 294 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 2: gotten better. And then the last thing, I wasn't sure 295 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: if I put my sonnets in the personal or professional category. 296 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: I don't know that anyone's paying me for my sonnets, 297 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 2: but I have continued to write a weekly sonnet. 298 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: At a rate of two lines a day. 299 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 2: This is, I mean, my third year of that, so 300 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: I guess emutually it will become like time tracking. 301 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 3: Maybe you could like auction off your sonnets. 302 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 2: I don't know that anyone's going to pay for them, 303 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 2: but okay, commission I don't know, commission sonnets on topics. 304 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, all right, Sarah, Professional goals, what 305 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: do you have? 306 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 3: All right? Goal number one was finish and launch book. 307 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 3: I wrote, this is my big twenty twenty five goal, 308 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: though I anticipate will be a flurry of work first 309 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 3: two months alone and then a lot of work towards 310 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 3: the end. Yes it was, and yes I did. I 311 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 3: did finish. I mean there's still, like, you know, they 312 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 3: sent me like, oh, here's all the graphics and can 313 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 3: you look at that? And you know there's always gonna 314 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 3: be stuff, probably even once it comes out, there's still 315 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 3: gonna be stuff. But that's okay. The actual, like writing 316 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: part was enormous and daunting, and I got it done. 317 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 3: So I give myself a big check for that part. 318 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 3: The launch obviously has not happened yet. It comes out 319 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 3: in December. You can pre order the covers out and 320 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 3: I love it. So if you check out various places 321 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 3: you buy books, you can see what it looks like. 322 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 3: But yeah, I would say I'm kind of I wouldn't 323 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 3: even just say on track like this is happening whether 324 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 3: I want to or not at this point. So yay, 325 00:15:55,880 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 3: check number two. I said, I put myself out there 326 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 3: more podcast pitches, speaking, et cetera. Okay, I did do 327 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 3: some speaking, although I had been set in twenty twenty 328 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 3: four for twenty twenty five and it went well. It 329 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 3: was actually really fun, Like I did my first talk 330 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 3: to a group of residents, like hired by an outside institution, 331 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 3: so that was a lot of fun. But I don't 332 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 3: think I really have done any self promotion like reaching 333 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 3: out to other podcasters or things like that. That said, 334 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 3: I'm going to be forced to do not forced, but 335 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 3: highly encouraged and motivated to do that as part of 336 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 3: book promotions. I'm kind of giving myself a break for 337 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 3: now since I know there's going to be just a 338 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 3: flurry of that. Plus I kind of want to time 339 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 3: this ride. I don't want to beg people to have 340 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 3: me on and then be like, also, you have to 341 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 3: have be on again when it's time to promote my books. 342 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna just assume we're going to be good 343 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 3: on that for the year. But I haven't made a 344 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 3: ton of progress Number three was I wanted to improve 345 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 3: my shutdown ritual, and I would say, this is not 346 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 3: like perfect, but I'm I'm getting better at like looking 347 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 3: at my planner on this is all my non clinical day. 348 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 3: So my clinical day is my shutdown ritual is easy. 349 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 3: I empty epic and I drive home. But on my 350 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 3: nonclinical days, I get to a place of acceptance and 351 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 3: I kind of migrate forward what didn't happen, if there's anything. 352 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 3: And I'm lately just very motivated not to get behind 353 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 3: because I kind of have a better view of how 354 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 3: tight things are and if I get behind, it's going 355 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 3: to be really tough. So that's been less of an issue. 356 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 3: And then finally come up with a fun and different 357 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 3: summer project, Lauren, I have something maybe I think creative 358 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 3: that we might do. And I also kind of added 359 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 3: to my summer docket revamping some of my workbooks because 360 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 3: I'm just doing them all at once, in part because 361 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 3: my designer wants to do the bulk of her work 362 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 3: over the summer, so I feel like, yeah, in a way, 363 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 3: it's nice to just have my summer energies directed towards 364 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 3: like other specific things versus the book which just took 365 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 3: so much mental energy for the last year prior. 366 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: Really yeah, yeah, absolutely. 367 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 2: Well, similarly my professional goals, I wanted to finish my 368 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 2: book so big time is in fact into my editor 369 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 2: at my deadline was moved to May first, but I 370 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 2: did in fact meet May first. So I've turned in 371 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 2: the manuscript and I will still need to edit it, 372 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 2: but you know, it's turned in, so yay. I wanted 373 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 2: to grow vander Hack's my substack newsletter. I don't know 374 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 2: that I am quite on pace to hit the eight 375 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 2: hundred to one thousand paid subscribers number by the end 376 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 2: of the year, but it has grown since January, so 377 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 2: that is good, and I guess we still have time 378 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 2: to get to there. So anyone wants to go check 379 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 2: it out. Vander Hacks do substack dot com. You have 380 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: to go viral for something and then some people I 381 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 2: don't know what it is, Yeah, who knows. 382 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: It does keep growing. I'm very grateful for that. 383 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 2: It's been a fun project to launch and to see 384 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 2: how you can turn blogging into something of a newsletter business. 385 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 2: I also want to do a summer project. I thought 386 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: we might write a novel. We will see with that 387 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 2: that happens. Unsure on the plot, but I have started 388 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: noodling around on my next book, the Golden Hours book, 389 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 2: just thinking about what will be in there, since I 390 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 2: didn't do a formal proposal for that one. 391 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, we're working on it. So yeah, Sarah relationships, Yeah, 392 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: what was in that one? 393 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 3: So, and I lumped this with like family, friends, et cetera. 394 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 3: So the first one was a repeat from last year, 395 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 3: seek out opportunities for one on one time. 396 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 397 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 3: So one thing that has really helped with this goal 398 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 3: is the fact that I now have a thirteen year 399 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 3: old and the opportunities to like take one kid with 400 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 3: me and leave other kids at home. I mean there's 401 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 3: certain kids that cannot be left at home alone, of course, 402 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 3: but like they've actually increased substantially, and so I feel 403 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 3: like I'm doing a better job like kind of embracing 404 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 3: that and even things like, oh, my kid is a 405 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 3: doctor's appointment, but can we also like go to Starbucks 406 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 3: after and like chat for a little bit or I 407 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 3: did do a one on one day with Genevieve, and 408 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 3: I'm planning on fitting in days with the other two 409 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 3: over the course of the year. The one with Jenevie 410 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 3: was super memorable too, because we went to the beach. 411 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 3: It was a beautiful day, and then we went to 412 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 3: this place that she loves, and yeah, those days are 413 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 3: are worthwhile. So I look forward to fitting more of 414 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 3: that in. And I've also had some really great one 415 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 3: on one time with Josh, Like we took a couple 416 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 3: of trips, more trips than we planned because I ended up. 417 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 3: He came with me to Hopkins, and he came with 418 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 3: me on a speaking gig because at that point it 419 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 3: was after my hospital stuff. And yeah, just excited to 420 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 3: do more of that. Plus we can go out for 421 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 3: dinner once in a while without a babysitter, which is 422 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 3: great and okay, so that's that. Number two was to 423 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 3: throw a casual neighborhood hang. Did not happen. I still 424 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 3: want to do it. It won't be in January and February 425 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 3: like I planned, but it can still happen. 426 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: Oh well, yeah. 427 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. Number three was to visit friends, including a college 428 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 3: friend meetup overdue since I missed twenty twenty four, and 429 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 3: I wrote possible other friend trip in the works. Would 430 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,719 Speaker 3: love it, So both are scheduled. My friends are coming 431 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 3: to me. After a lot of discussion, they decided, you 432 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 3: know what, let's just go to Florida in August. It's 433 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 3: really great weather and I'm just kidding it's not, but 434 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. We're going to go to a hotel 435 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 3: and go to the spa and eat great food. And 436 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,719 Speaker 3: they're coming. So everyone's booked their flights. It's happening. And 437 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 3: then I have another trip booked with a friend and 438 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 3: that one's really really exciting too. So just having those 439 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 3: on the calendar, I think that's eighty percent of the battle, 440 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 3: and if we don't have any total disasters, I will 441 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 3: be able to meet that goal. Plus I saw Laura 442 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 3: in March and I'm going to see her in July. 443 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 3: And yeah, so all good, bonus time, All good. What 444 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 3: about you? 445 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? 446 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 2: So I have one goal was to go to three 447 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: professional sports games with people. So that was like a 448 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 2: relationship goal there, and I've already hit this because I 449 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 2: went to three. I went to a Sixers game, and 450 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 2: I went to two Eagles games. The Eagles game was 451 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 2: not intended. I sort of started saying, Okay, we'll go 452 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 2: to the Sixers and then the Phillies and then. 453 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: The Eagles in the fall. 454 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 2: But because the Eagles kept playing as alert football watchers 455 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 2: may have seen, they kept playing through January, so we 456 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 2: wound up going to two of the playoff games and 457 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 2: that that was really cool to see that the Sixers 458 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: game was much less cool, But we won't. 459 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: We won't. Let's just not talk about that. 460 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 2: And then Sarah and I will both be at a 461 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 2: Phillies game in July, so I am excited about that. 462 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 2: I had said I wanted to host a holiday party 463 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 2: if we're talking about the November December holidays, and that 464 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 2: has obviously not happened yet, but it could still happen. 465 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 2: I'm actually hosting a choir party shortly after we're recording this, 466 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 2: but it's not really a holiday party, so it's a party. 467 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 2: And then I wanted to become a musical family. It 468 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 2: has been fun to watch Alex learn the trombone. He 469 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 2: is definitely getting better at it. I need to sort 470 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 2: of sit over him while he practices. But he had 471 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: his band concert the other night, and I see that 472 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 2: he enjoyed performing. He will have his first recital coming 473 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 2: up very soon, and so I'm hoping that he gets 474 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: kind of bitten by the bug of being a musician 475 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 2: and the good news about being a trombone player. Is 476 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 2: that there aren't a lot of trombone players, and so 477 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 2: if you stick with it, you will have more opportunities 478 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 2: than if you are doing the violin or something like that. 479 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 2: And my timing is to sign Henry up for piano 480 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 2: lessons in the fall and to have him sing in 481 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 2: the church choir in the fall, the kids choir. So 482 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 2: those things have not had an opportunity to start yet 483 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 2: without timing, but I do plan to do them. 484 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 3: I love it. Yeah, music is so great. I wish 485 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 3: we had more of it than we have, but honestly, 486 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 3: I think there could still be more because Cameron's like 487 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 3: starting guitar and he does like it so and Genevieve 488 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 3: does piano. All right, we're gonna take it. 489 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 2: Take one more quick ad break, yeah, one more quick 490 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 2: ad break, and then we'll. 491 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: Be back with our last goals. Well, we are back. 492 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 2: This is our annual mid year goal check in. So 493 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 2: we had one final category of household Sarah, how did 494 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 2: your household goals go so far? 495 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 3: I wrote that I have high hopes still of decluttering 496 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 3: and organizing like everything we own, the like was in there. 497 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 3: That is my main household goal and I have started recently, 498 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 3: Like I literally organized a lot of my closet yesterday. 499 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 3: So maybe spurned by making this list, but that's part 500 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 3: of the point of making these lists. Guys. That's okay 501 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 3: that I am getting on my goal because I'm like, oh, 502 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 3: I did have that goal. Okay. I have some opportunistic 503 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 3: time coming up because all three kids are going to 504 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 3: sleep away camp and they're only going Monday through Friday, 505 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 3: so it's limited opportunistic time. But I think I could 506 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 3: actually get a solid amount of organizing done. I don't 507 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 3: think I'm going to quote organize everything we own, but 508 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 3: I think I will be able to continue to make 509 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 3: progress in some key areas. And maybe I'm okay, as 510 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 3: long as this goal gets partially met, I can be 511 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 3: like Laura's weight training, like this year, do my key 512 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 3: areas next year, maybe go a layer deeper, et cetera. 513 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 3: So I'm not going to be all or nothing about 514 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 3: this because I think there's still time to make progress. 515 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 3: I also think our nanny is ready to help if 516 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 3: I give her specific areas pertaining to kids stuff. And yeah, 517 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 3: the year is young, let's do it. 518 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 2: The year is young, it could still happen well, and 519 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 2: you don't mind putting stuff on a goal list again 520 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: and again, right, I mean, especially sometimes it's the nudge 521 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 2: that makes it happen totally. I mean I talked about 522 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 2: I had flossing on my list for so many years, 523 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 2: and then in like twenty eighteen, I was like, I 524 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 2: floss now, or before that, maybe even I don't even know. 525 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 2: There was one year when it clicked, and then it's 526 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 2: clicked ever since. Strength training, book writing, estate planning. These 527 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 2: are all like giant things that went on multiple yearly 528 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 2: lists before coming to fruition. So I'm not the kind 529 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 2: of person who thinks it's not okay to put something 530 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 2: on there that might not happen because you might get closer. 531 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 3: And closer, or you might make zero progress at all. 532 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 3: But then the star's kind of like come into line 533 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 3: and you realize the time is right and you can 534 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 3: move on something. So yeah, yeah, what about your household? Well, 535 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 3: you didn't have a household goal, but you did do 536 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 3: something fun for your household. 537 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 2: Well, I bought miniature household stuff. I wanted to add 538 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 2: to my miniature's collection. Although I need to think about 539 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 2: it because I might the two shelves in my office 540 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 2: that I can sort of see eye level from my 541 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 2: desk are now actually completely full. They're starting to get 542 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 2: cluttered with miniature furniture. So I like dollhouse furniture, and 543 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 2: I've been creating miniature scenes in my office and so 544 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 2: I wanted to add to that over the course of 545 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 2: the year, and I have. I ordered some farmhouse like 546 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 2: bathroom miniatures from this place in Australia, and they finally 547 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 2: showed up like I ordered them, like when this episode 548 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 2: we were recording our Annual Goals episode low back in 549 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: November December of twenty twenty four. I don't know what happened, 550 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 2: but they finally showed up like now, like May of 551 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. But they're there, are cute, and I 552 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 2: will probably buy some accessories for the bathroom to make 553 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 2: it look a little bit more inhabited, and then who knows, 554 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 2: maybe I'll add to the scene. But I did sign 555 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 2: up for there are these webinars like the Thorn Miniature 556 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 2: rooms in the Art Institute of Chicago. There's going to 557 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: be a webinar online about them shortly after this we're 558 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 2: recording this episode, So I signed up for that, Like 559 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 2: why not I can learn about it. 560 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 3: And we'll beating at six am, just so Laura can 561 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 3: make her I'm just kidding, We're not. 562 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 2: No, no, it's an evening hour that will be a 563 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 2: golden hour thing one day. 564 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 3: I think it's great. It's like a new deep dive. 565 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 3: It's like a like it's a fun hobby, like why not? 566 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: Why not? 567 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 2: I the fun part of getting older is you can 568 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 2: sometimes make space for these completely random interests of yours. 569 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 2: All right, So that's how we've done so far on 570 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 2: our goals. We'll obviously be talking more about this in December. 571 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 2: See if we've achieved the ones we haven't or made 572 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 2: more progress on the ones we are working on. 573 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: So this question. 574 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 2: Is about summer, So the listener writes in I see 575 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 2: all this talk about summer reading. When do people have 576 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: time to read, especially over the summer when the kids 577 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 2: are home. I want to curate this habit, but I struggle. So, Sarah, 578 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 2: what's your advice for this person? 579 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 3: My first piece of advice is to make sure you 580 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 3: are choosing books that you really want to read and 581 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 3: aren't assigning yourself things that are like homework. Because if 582 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 3: you're excited about picking up a book, or if you're 583 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 3: in the middle of one. That's that's great. You will 584 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 3: just kind of like sneak it in just the way 585 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 3: that you probably I mean, I'm not judging you, but 586 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 3: maybe you currently sneak in peak at social media or 587 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 3: things like that. Instead you'll be like, I want to 588 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 3: know what's going to happen in this juicy novel or 589 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 3: memoir or whatever it is. So I think that's my 590 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 3: number one. Number two is anytime anyone's struggling to do anything, 591 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 3: I'm like, why don't you consider the early morning? I mean, 592 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 3: that doesn't work in all cases. Maybe you're in a 593 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 3: season where you have a baby wit you up all 594 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 3: night and you're like, early morning no, isn't just hard no. 595 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 3: But if it is available to you, then reading can 596 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 3: be done in the morning. You can read a novel 597 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 3: in the morning no one is stopping you. Or you 598 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 3: could do an audiobooks. If you're trying to fit an exercise, 599 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 3: you could exercise while you have that book going and 600 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 3: do that juicy summer reading that way. And then finally, 601 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 3: I would say, if you're like an obliger and you 602 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 3: which is a Gretchen Rubin personality tendency, that means you 603 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 3: respond better to outer expectations. You might want to think 604 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 3: about joining a book club. If there is not one 605 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 3: socially available to you in your area, you could always 606 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,479 Speaker 3: find a virtual book club. There's a ton of like 607 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 3: book podcasts and book talk and a lot of those 608 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 3: kind of creators and book influencers have their own book 609 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 3: clubs that you can pay a nominal amount to join. 610 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 3: So maybe that would be a motivator, kind of give 611 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 3: you some deadlines and ideas around you're reading. 612 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 2: What do you think, Laura, Yeah, I think the reading 613 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 2: books you want to read is huge, and you should 614 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 2: knowledge this about yourself, Like there's no reason you should 615 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 2: not pretend to be into books that you aren't like. 616 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: And if you're not into whatever the hot summer reads are, 617 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 2: then don't read it. 618 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: Like that's I tend not to be. 619 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 2: Actually that those are not books on my summer list, 620 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 2: And that's fine. You want to read books that you 621 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 2: are excited that you're like looking like, oh, I can't 622 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 2: wait till that comes out, or I love that author. 623 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,959 Speaker 2: I can't wait to read that one, because then you 624 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 2: will make more space for it than if you are 625 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 2: just trying to make yourself read stuff you're not as 626 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 2: into that said, I think you can look at your 627 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 2: time and see where structurally you can fit it. As 628 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 2: Sarah mentioned the early mornings, but for a lot of 629 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 2: people that's time before bed, and it doesn't have to 630 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 2: be a ton of time. But if you can swing 631 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 2: fifteen twenty minutes before bed, I think a lot of 632 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 2: people can do that. If you look at what you 633 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 2: are doing in this time, you might be just sort 634 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,479 Speaker 2: of puttering around the house doing random stuff that doesn't 635 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 2: truly need to be done. Then sometimes people are doing 636 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 2: screen time, which can be fun, but maybe you don't 637 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 2: need to do that every night, or you could cut 638 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 2: it off a little bit earlier and use some time 639 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: for reading. And I'm a broken record on this, but 640 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 2: e readers on your phone. 641 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: Put ebooks on your. 642 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 2: Phone because you always have your book, you always have 643 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 2: the phone with you, and then you can read in 644 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 2: little pockets of time that you would have been scrolling 645 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 2: around reading headlines. And it's just as easy. You just 646 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 2: have to get in the habit of doing it. So 647 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 2: Sarah Love of the Week, I so. 648 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 3: The opposite of reading a screen a TV show. I 649 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 3: was in a mood because one of my kids broke 650 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 3: their finger and it was like a ordeal, and I 651 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 3: was like, I need candy. I need digital candy. I 652 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 3: just need to lose myself in something that's incredibly easy 653 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 3: to watch right now. And I found Sirens on Netflix, 654 00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 3: and five minutes in I'm like, this is exactly what 655 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 3: I need. So it's a TV show, it's like five 656 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 3: episodes total. Each episode is about an hour, and it's 657 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 3: kind of a White Lotus knockoff. I mean, it wasn't 658 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 3: the world's most original show, but man, it sucked you 659 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 3: in nicely and it just was exactly what I needed 660 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 3: at that moment. So I don't know, like juicy TV 661 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 3: can be such a balm sometimes, and I recommend Sirens 662 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 3: if you're in that place. Also, Emily in Paris, that 663 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 3: was my last summer when I had a lot of 664 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 3: drama with something. There were a lot of episodes and 665 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 3: I had a lot of drama, so it was perfect. 666 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 3: But this was a short thing, so that was exactly 667 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 3: what I needed. 668 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, So mine is like knowing yourself here. I have 669 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 2: been reading consuming of great many books on early Earth history. 670 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 2: I just find this endlessly fascinating. Along time my miniature rooms, 671 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 2: like I have these multiple obsessions. One is like dollhouse furniture. 672 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 2: The other is like early Earth history, and I've just 673 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 2: been reading through about the science and the chemistry of 674 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 2: the early Earth and all this stuff. We learn new 675 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 2: things all the time, even though these things happened billions 676 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 2: or millions of years ago, and so there is something 677 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 2: new to learn about it, often a lot new to 678 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 2: learn as things come up. So I've been reading a 679 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 2: lot of books on that topic, and I continue to 680 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 2: work my way through the literature, and that's what I've 681 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 2: been reading at night. 682 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: So that's what I like. 683 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 3: I think the theme is to boldly and unapologetically choose 684 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 3: the things you like. 685 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely and whatever. 686 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 2: The mix of random things that you like can bring 687 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 2: joy into your life, and you know they'll be more 688 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 2: likely to stick with it. Well, this has been best 689 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 2: of both worlds. We've been doing our annual mid year 690 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 2: goal check in a lot of things going well, some pivots, 691 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 2: but that's life. We will be back next week with 692 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 2: more on making work and life fit together. 693 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 3: Thanks for listening. You can find me Sarah at the 694 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 3: shoebox dot com or at the Underscore Shoebox on Instagram, 695 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 3: and you can. 696 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 2: Find me Laura at Laura vandercam dot com. This has 697 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 2: been the best of both worlds podcasts. Please join us 698 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,240 Speaker 2: next time for more on making work and life work together.