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Speaker 1: the Bengals fall to four and seven, losing to the

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Speaker 1: Chargers in Los Angeles. Coming up radio replays, locker room

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Speaker 1: time for the radio replays from Sunday nights game at

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Speaker 1: Sofi Stadium, in the home of Hollywood. Two of the

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Speaker 1: NFL's biggest superstars go head to head in prime time.

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Speaker 1: It's Joe Burrow and the Bengals versus Justin Herbert and

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Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Chargers. And it is time for the

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Speaker 1: big skin to fly here at Palatial so By Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Evin McPherson thirteen out of seventeen on his field goal

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Speaker 2: This will be a twenty six yard try from the left.

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Speaker 1: Hash Adam Might is ready to snap it back to

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Speaker 1: Rico the placement that kicked a high spinning, end over

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Speaker 1: the scoreboard.

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Speaker 2: First.

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Speaker 1: They lead the Chargers three to nothing with six twenty

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Speaker 1: seven left here in the first quarter. First and ten

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Speaker 1: at the Cincinnati twenty nine yard line, Dobbins in at

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Speaker 1: running back. Herbert is under center. He takes the snaff,

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Speaker 1: fakes a handoff, throws downfield. It is caught and Will

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Speaker 1: Disley grabs it at the four and trots into the

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Speaker 1: end zone for a Chargers touchdown. This will be a

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Speaker 1: twenty seven yard attempt for McPherson from the right hash

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Speaker 2: His kick is on its way.

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Speaker 1: It is down the middle and good, and Cincinnati has

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Speaker 1: scored on back to back possessions, unfortunately settling for three

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Speaker 1: points each time. Second and seventh at the Cincinnati twenty six,

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Speaker 1: Herbert fakes a handoff bootlegs to the right. Now moving

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Speaker 1: up the middle of the field, he fires touchdown Brenton

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Speaker 1: In the end zone and justin Herbert has thrown touchdown

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Speaker 1: passes of twenty plus on back to back drives. Herbert

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Speaker 1: He goes up and over the pile and soars into

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Speaker 1: It is good. It looked like it might fade to

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Speaker 2: Fourth and goal from the five. Burrow waits at the ten.

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Speaker 2: In, let's throw. The slant is caught. Chase coming in

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Speaker 1: He catches, takes a deep drop. He's gonna fire an

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Speaker 1: The Big Guy catches, fakes two. Dobbins rolls out to

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Speaker 1: Gino Stone has it for Cincinnati and the Bengals get

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Speaker 1: a takeaway. Burrow catches the shotgun snap against the four

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Speaker 1: one point deficit. Rookie punter Ryan Rico is the holder

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati trying to take the lead after being behind by

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Speaker 1: twenty one in the second half. The kick is up,

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Speaker 1: fading left. It is wide left. Evan McPherson misses. Distance

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Speaker 1: a handoff to Dobbins running up the middle of the field.

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Speaker 1: to go on a run by JK. Dobbins. Three seconds left.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals down by seven. They have the ball at

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Speaker 1: four to twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: We are where we're at. I'm not happy with her

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Speaker 4: I don't think anybody is.

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Speaker 1: But all you can do is come back tomorrow and

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Speaker 1: try to get better. Just been the most frustrating seas into.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what.

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Speaker 4: Pretty self explanatory.

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Speaker 5: How do you explain the way this season has gone

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Speaker 5: where it feels like we've been in the spot after

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Speaker 5: so many games, they've all felt.

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Speaker 1: One play away, like you've made so many winning plays.

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Speaker 1: Are you able to explain it?

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Speaker 3: How do you explain?

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Speaker 4: It's got to make the plays. Just got to make

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Speaker 6: And we have it down the stretch and we're not

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Speaker 6: We're not, you know, a good enough team to you know,

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Speaker 6: make those plays.

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Speaker 4: I got to make those plays. We all got to

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Speaker 1: The Bengals almost equal the biggest come from behind victory

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Speaker 1: and team history. They rallied from twenty one down to

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Speaker 1: win in nineteen eighty one and nineteen ninety five, but

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Speaker 1: they couldn't pull it off this time, losing thirty four

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Speaker 1: to twenty seven. Dave Lapham talked to Zach Taylor after

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Speaker 4: Man, another another unbelievable football games. I mean one thing,

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Speaker 4: your football team will never quit.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and at some point that's going to count for something.

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Speaker 7: You know, we've all got the same sick feeling in

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Speaker 7: our stomachs. Guys competed like crazy in the second half,

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Speaker 7: unbelievable comeback, had our opportunities to finish the game off,

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Speaker 7: and we just didn't do it, you know. And that's

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Speaker 7: kind of been the story for the season so far.

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Speaker 7: There's still opportunity in front of us, and I expect

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Speaker 4: I mean, every single football game but one has been

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Speaker 4: a one score game. I mean, well, you're one in one,

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Speaker 4: in five, one and six, whatever it is in one

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Speaker 4: play here or there. I guess you know that's that's

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Speaker 4: the National Football League. But was it just a matter

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Speaker 4: of execution from first half to second half? Did you

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Speaker 4: make any adjustments at half time? Was just like, let's

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Speaker 4: just do better what we're doing. Yeah, a little bit

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Speaker 7: There were certainly adjustments. Is we've got a better feel

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Speaker 7: for how they're playing us on both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 7: Thought the coaches did a good job. Players bullied in it,

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Speaker 7: players understood it, capitalized on and put ourselves in a

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Speaker 7: really good position to find a way to win in

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Speaker 7: a tough road environment against good football team and just

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Speaker 4: You got to feel sick for Evan McPherson. I mean,

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Speaker 4: he's he's made a lot of big kicks in his

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Speaker 4: career and he just he's in one of those one

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Speaker 4: It's hard to explain, isn't it It is?

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Speaker 7: You know, we got confidence in him, We're counting on him,

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Speaker 7: and he'll have more opportunities to come asway.

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Speaker 4: So I mean, Joe Burrow twenty eight for fifty, they're

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Speaker 4: in a fifty six yards three touchdowns. T Higgins his

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Speaker 4: first game back, I mean, the tong hang in there

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Speaker 4: like he did Cardio Vashlee and physically in a game

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Speaker 4: like this, nine Cats one hundred and forty eight yards

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Speaker 4: of forty two yard touchdown. I mean, it's amazing what

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Speaker 8: These guys competed.

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Speaker 7: You know, we can count on them down and down out.

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Speaker 7: We ask a lot of them. They come up big

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Speaker 7: for us every single time. And you know, proud of

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Speaker 7: the way that all of our guys competed, not just

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Speaker 7: left it all in the field, and you just feel

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Speaker 7: sick for this locker room for kind of what they've

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Speaker 7: no one the potential that's stole in front of us.

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Speaker 7: And so we're gonna take this by week to regroup,

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Speaker 7: get our bodies back right, and if we want to

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Speaker 7: make the playoffs, we're gonna have to go on a run.

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Speaker 7: It's going to take great effort, it's going to take

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Speaker 7: a lot of wins, but I believe this team can

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Speaker 7: do it.

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Speaker 4: Man, when you look at it defensively, what about that

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Speaker 4: side of it. I mean the first half Herbert was

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Speaker 4: like on fire, I mean, with with this throwing arm,

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Speaker 4: with his legs, with everything else. And then I mean

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Speaker 4: the first twelve plays of the second half offensively, they

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Speaker 4: had fourteen yards on their first twelve steps. I mean,

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Speaker 4: what was it was? Their adjustments again at halftime was

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Speaker 4: just execute better, a little of both.

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Speaker 7: We just I mean, we really competed in the back end.

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Speaker 7: I saw a lot of guys make plays.

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Speaker 2: On the balls.

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Speaker 7: Tight coverage, a little more pressure, and then those guys,

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Speaker 1: So Joe burrought through for three hundred and fifty six

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Speaker 6: Again, Yeah, we we just want to we want to

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Speaker 4: With these w's.

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Speaker 1: Describe the feeling on the sideline as you rallied from

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Speaker 1: Do you almost feel jinxed? I mean, there have been

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Speaker 6: These games are close, but at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: So, you know, we were one short today. I want

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Speaker 6: Back and users by week to just recoup reset and

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Speaker 3: We're not, We're not unmotivated.

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Speaker 6: It's just gonna make us even more motivated to you know,

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Speaker 1: You had t Higgins back tonight. He had nearly one

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Speaker 1: After a rough first half, the Bengals were tremendous in

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 5: When you have those opportunities, you have to take full advantage,

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Speaker 1: One positive is that some of the young DB's made

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and we're gonna need them to play that well

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Speaker 1: Got the bye week coming up and the Steelers after that.

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Speaker 1: How do you move on, Just.

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Speaker 5: Find a way to get your get our bodies back

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Speaker 4: We just can't give up. And that's what we're going

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Speaker 1: I don't even want to mention some of the plays

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Speaker 5: to bicker about it and can plain to you guys

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Speaker 5: We're just gonna continue to find a way to go

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Speaker 3: That's all we can do.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate your Time's always thank you. The Bengals have their

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Speaker 1: Denver improved a six and five with a thirty eight

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Speaker 2: Lap.

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Speaker 1: For a while, it looked like the Bengals were going

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Speaker 4: Really, it's amazing, I mean you look at it. Every

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Speaker 4: It's almost unfathomable really, And you know, to show the heart,

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Speaker 4: It's like you come back and tie the football game

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Speaker 4: I don't know how many heart transplants you can go

442
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Speaker 4: through in one season. But it's incredible. I mean, the

443
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Speaker 4: winning touchdowns, a twenty nine yard touchdown run. Robbins had

444
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Speaker 4: twenty seven yards on ten carries before that play, and

445
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Speaker 4: they run simple power pull the guard, pull the tight

446
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Speaker 4: end behind them, they get their blocks and he's off

447
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Speaker 4: to the races. So you have to play every single

448
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Speaker 4: snap with you know, everybody playing their gap, controlled discipline,

449
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,879
Speaker 4: responsibility and everything goes along with it or something like

450
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Speaker 4: that's going to happen. So it's it's heartbreaking though, because

451
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Speaker 4: you know, you look at what the stars the Bengals,

452
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Speaker 4: they continue to be stars. I mean Joe's twenty eight

453
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Speaker 4: to fifty three and fifty six yards street touchdowns, Haigan's

454
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Speaker 4: nine catches one hundred and forty eight yards and a

455
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Speaker 4: touchdown forty two yards. Chase seven catches for seventy five,

456
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Speaker 4: two touchdowns. I mean, the big the big guys stepped

457
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Speaker 4: up and played. There's there's no no question about it.

458
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Speaker 4: Brown has twenty two carries for eighty six yards, and

459
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Speaker 4: he you know, he continued to you know, to make

460
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Speaker 4: plays and you had he had receiving yards as well.

461
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Speaker 4: I mean the game, the game that he had in

462
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Speaker 4: the scrimmage yards fifty even receiving eighty six rushing. That

463
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Speaker 4: dog will hunt. I mean, that'll that'll get it done.

464
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Speaker 4: A lot of great and things again offensively in the

465
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Speaker 4: second half in particular, but defensively, man, it's still a

466
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Speaker 4: puzzle to me, still a quandary. They just can't seem

467
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Speaker 4: to pull it together.

468
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Speaker 1: They did in the second half. They stopped giving up

469
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Speaker 1: big plays before the touchdown drive in the second half, punt,

470
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Speaker 1: long field goal, punt, fumble, punt, punt, punt. They did

471
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Speaker 1: a great job until that final four play eighty four

472
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Speaker 1: yard drive that ended the game. Essentially.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. I mean, you look at it. Last week.

474
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Speaker 4: It was the first half, laid their tails off, give

475
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Speaker 4: up what six points in the first half of the

476
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Speaker 4: football game last week, and then this this week it's

477
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Speaker 4: the second half. Well about trying to put four quarters together.

478
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Speaker 4: It'd be great to have a four quarter football game,

479
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,640
Speaker 4: and there would do were some good signs too. I mean,

480
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Speaker 4: you know, money Machimus is a field goal. The defense

481
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Speaker 4: step up and they said, okay, we got your back,

482
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Speaker 4: you know, they force upon the Bengals offense gets the

483
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Speaker 4: football back and then there's another missed field goal. Unfortunately,

484
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Speaker 4: but again the fact that that.

485
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Speaker 3: They were just.

486
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Speaker 4: Not going to quit, I mean, they were in it

487
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Speaker 4: until until the bitter end. There's no there's no doubt

488
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Speaker 4: about it. This football team's prideful, but they just can't

489
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Speaker 4: make the play that they need to make the finish

490
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Speaker 4: football games.

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Speaker 1: Darren Simmons has said many times one of the reasons

492
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Speaker 1: why he loves Eta McPherson is that his demeanor never changes.

493
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Speaker 1: He's never too high, he's never too low. You wouldn't

494
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Speaker 1: know it's a pressure kick. Well, he's missed six field

495
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Speaker 1: goals now this year. Maybe the demeanor hasn't changed outwardly,

496
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Speaker 1: but it's got to be in his head at this point,

497
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Speaker 1: don't you think.

498
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Speaker 4: It's got to be. And it seems like a high

499
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Speaker 4: percentage of them are the same situation. It's like overcook hook.

500
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Speaker 4: You know, it's like almost duck hook on one of them.

501
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Speaker 4: So you know, you would think a kicker of his

502
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Speaker 4: excellence and magnitude could make the necessary adjustment to strike

503
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Speaker 4: it more straight instead of hooking the thing. But easier

504
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Speaker 4: said than done. And it's not.

505
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Speaker 8: To me.

506
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Speaker 4: It doesn't look like the operations an issue. It really

507
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Speaker 4: looks like that's handleable and manageable to make the kicks.

508
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Speaker 4: It doesn't look bad to me. But I don't never

509
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Speaker 4: kick the ball in my life, so I don't really

510
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Speaker 4: I can't really say it, But to me, it just

511
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Speaker 4: looked they were like they were overcooked a little bit.

512
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Speaker 4: I think, you know, maybe for the first time he

513
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Speaker 4: might be pressing a little bit. Like you said, his

514
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Speaker 4: disposition has been so like, you know what does even

515
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Speaker 4: have a heartbeat. It's flatline. But I think you know that.

516
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Speaker 4: I guess maybe he's proven that he is human, and

517
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Speaker 4: maybe he's pushing a little bit, trying too hard.

518
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Speaker 1: We've said that for the defense to make a significant

519
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 1: improvement in the the second half of the season, it's

520
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Speaker 1: going to have to be young guys playing up to

521
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Speaker 1: their potential. And I thought a couple of guys stepped

522
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Speaker 1: up and showed me something tonight. Josh Newton made a

523
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Speaker 1: lot of plays in the secondary, several pass deflections that

524
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Speaker 1: was great to see, and he played a lot tonight.

525
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Speaker 1: I thought it was a big game for his development.

526
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Speaker 1: McKinley Jackson splashed a few times. Joseph Osi had a sack.

527
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Speaker 1: So some of these guys that you need to show

528
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Speaker 1: that they can be better players than they've been showed

529
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Speaker 1: something in the second half tonight.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. And a guy that I think continues

531
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Speaker 4: to play pretty darn good football is Cody Ford. You know,

532
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Speaker 4: I mean, he's Unfortunately, Orlando Brown has never missed three

533
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Speaker 4: games in a row in his life. I don't think

534
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Speaker 4: at any level of high school, any level of football,

535
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Speaker 4: high school, college, NFL, or he's probably too big for

536
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 4: pee wee football. But I mean, he's never been in

537
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Speaker 4: a situation like this, and hopefully after the bye week

538
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Speaker 4: he'll be able to come back. And because I think

539
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 4: he was having a career year. I thought he was

540
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Speaker 4: playing an extremely high level. It's just unfortunately was interrupted

541
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Speaker 4: by the injury that he's been dealing with here. But

542
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 4: you know, to get him back would be this big

543
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 4: a boost to the offensive line as getting T Higgins

544
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 4: was to the receiving corps.

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Speaker 1: They didn't score thirty three plus, but they scored twenty

546
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Speaker 1: seven against the team that was giving up an average

547
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Speaker 1: of thirteen. The offense continues to shine. It's a shame

548
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 1: that they're four and seven. The way this offense is performing.

549
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it really is. I mean, you know, and I

550
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 4: think Joe took fourteen quarterback hits tonight and last week

551
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 4: thirteen twenty seven quarterback hits. I mean, he's going to

552
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 4: worship that bye week. I mean, he needs he needs

553
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Speaker 4: to be able to just get his body right. I'll

554
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Speaker 4: tell you what. This guy is competitive with the capital C,

555
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 4: tough with the capital T. I mean, you know, people say, oh,

556
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 4: this guy's tough that Joe Burrow never says a word,

557
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 4: never complains, never moans, never groans, continues to just play

558
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 4: as tough a rano football as I've ever seen. Really

559
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 4: at the quarterback position. He's up there with anybody and

560
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 4: puts up big numbers to boot. I mean that guy

561
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 4: is the real deal in every sense of the word.

562
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 4: I mean he is. When you think football player, his

563
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 4: picture's going to come flashing into your head pretty darn quickly.

564
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Speaker 1: The teams that they were hoping would lose one and

565
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: a game they felt they needed to win slipped through

566
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Speaker 1: their fingertips. The math is not looking good. Unfortunately, after

567
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Speaker 1: the buye.

568
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Speaker 4: They're gonna have to win at least five. You know,

569
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 4: maybe he's gonna have to run the table, but they're

570
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Speaker 4: probably going to have to win fight. You gotta win

571
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 4: nine games. You just got to. And it starts with

572
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Speaker 4: Pittsburgh in Cincinnati, and Pittsburgh is playing at an incredibly

573
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Speaker 4: high level football. I mean Tomlin, Mike Tomlin knows exactly

574
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Speaker 4: what he's doing.

575
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Speaker 3: This.

576
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Speaker 4: This game reminded me, though, of a division game. I think.

577
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Speaker 4: I think Harbaugh's teams are physical, They're in great shape,

578
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 4: They're going to compete until the bitter end. Their feeling

579
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Speaker 4: is that They're better conditioned and mentally tougher than everybody.

580
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 4: And that's what the Pittsburgh Steelers have the same mindset.

581
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 4: Baltimore Ravens have the same mindset. This game was like

582
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Speaker 4: an AFC North game.

583
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Speaker 3: To me.

584
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Speaker 4: It really was.

585
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Speaker 1: Get some sleep on the flight home.

586
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Speaker 4: I'll try you do the same your schedule. I don't

587
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 4: know how you do it, Dan Horde, I've been there.

588
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 4: I know it ain't easy, man, and you continue to

589
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 4: amaze me.

590
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Speaker 1: That puts a rap on the Chargers game. Now it's

591
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Speaker 1: time for this week's fun fact segment, where you get

592
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Speaker 1: to know the person under the pads and stay tuned

593
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Speaker 1: until the end of this one for a special treat.

594
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Speaker 1: Time for some fun facts with defensive lineman Chris Jenkins.

595
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Speaker 1: Your hometown is listed as only Maryland, which is close

596
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Speaker 1: to Washington, DC. What's a kid do for fun? Growing

597
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: up in only.

598
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Speaker 9: Going on the metro that's like the biggest thing. You

599
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 9: go on to Metro, go to d C. Virginia. There's

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Speaker 9: a mall somewhere out in Virginia. I forgot what it's called,

601
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 9: but it's a huge mall. We used to go to

602
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Speaker 9: all the time, even though we ain't really had cash

603
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 9: back then it was fun.

604
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Speaker 1: So if somebody wants to visit DC, do you have

605
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Speaker 1: all the monuments and everything?

606
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Speaker 9: You know, downpack the monuments the museums like went to

607
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Speaker 9: them like I don't know how many times I could

608
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Speaker 9: count for school and and the crab cakes and stuff

609
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 9: like that.

610
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Speaker 3: That is ain't necessity, that's huge.

611
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Speaker 1: We're visiting with Chris Jenkins. Your dad and your uncle

612
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Speaker 1: both had long careers in the NFL. But I read

613
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Speaker 1: an interview where your mom said she didn't like football,

614
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Speaker 1: so she signed you up for everything but football? Was

615
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Speaker 1: that the case? And what did you play?

616
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Speaker 3: That was definitely the case? And I did? I know?

617
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Speaker 9: I did swimming, baseball, and soccer competitively. I did a

618
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Speaker 9: couple club activities at school at my little like kindergarten,

619
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Speaker 9: first grade school, Charlotte Preparatory School or it did golf

620
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Speaker 9: and tennis stuff and all that. I think badminton too,

621
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Speaker 9: So trying to she really wanted to get me in

622
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 9: as many as possible, except for football, just to see

623
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Speaker 9: if I buy something I liked.

624
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Speaker 1: Did you push back at some point and say, mom,

625
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Speaker 1: I want to play football now?

626
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Speaker 9: My pops did for me. You know, my Pops was like,

627
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Speaker 9: you know what, now you got to experience football at

628
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Speaker 9: least for one year, and then after that, if you want,

629
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Speaker 9: you could quit.

630
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Speaker 3: But fell in love with it after that.

631
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Speaker 1: All right, So let's talk about Pops. Your dad, Chris Senior,

632
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: was a gigantic three hundred and sixty pound nose tackle

633
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Speaker 1: who is a four time Pro Bowler and played in

634
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl with Carolina. It's not necessarily easy to

635
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Speaker 1: have the same name as somebody who accomplishes things like that.

636
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Speaker 1: Was it challenging for you?

637
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Speaker 9: Absolutely, especially being compared to someone like my pops and

638
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 9: my uncle and constantly feeling the need to prove myself.

639
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 9: You know, had to eventually figure out, you know, I'm

640
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 9: not going to be the type of player they were,

641
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 9: but I could still be the best version of myself.

642
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 9: And that's where I try to stack every day and

643
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 9: keep turning that into a possibility.

644
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Speaker 1: Your high school coach says it first, he wasn't sure

645
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: if you were going to be serious about football. You

646
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: were a fun, happy, go lucky sort.

647
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Speaker 9: Yep, yeah, that's mad accurate. I mean to this day

648
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 9: still i'm goofy. I can't help it. I mean, that's

649
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 9: just how I am, but you know it kind of

650
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 9: as I got older, you know, my competitiveness really started

651
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 9: to take shape, and you know, like my junior senior

652
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Speaker 9: year kind of.

653
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Speaker 3: Like college as well.

654
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Speaker 9: You know, you could really see that jump and that

655
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 9: progression really take for him and you know, bring that

656
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Speaker 9: goofiness in the game, and you know it was fun.

657
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Speaker 1: So, as we mentioned, you're from the DC area and

658
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Speaker 1: your dad played at Maryland, but you chose Michigan.

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Speaker 9: Why Michigan, Well, one, because my family is close by,

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Speaker 9: So that's a huge thing. You know, all the rest

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Speaker 9: of my family lived near the area, so great to

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Speaker 9: be by them. And then absolutely with the academics and

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Speaker 9: the athletics up there too. Really just you know, you

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Speaker 9: kind of have that it feeling when you go up there,

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Speaker 9: you see the school you want to go to. In

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Speaker 9: the second I touched down there, I just I just

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Speaker 9: knew right away that was gonna be it.

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Speaker 1: We're visiting with Chris Jenkins. During your time there, Michigan

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Speaker 1: had a famous strength and conditioning coach named Ben Herbert.

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Speaker 1: He's with the Chargers now. One day, in a team

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Speaker 1: meeting your sophomore year, he called you the mutant to

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Speaker 1: the rest of the team for your feats of strength

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Speaker 1: in the weight room. What did you think when he

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Speaker 1: said that for the first time.

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Speaker 9: I didn't expect it as at first because I was

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Speaker 9: still trying to earn my stripes and I hadn't proved

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Speaker 9: myself on the field yet, you know, so for him

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Speaker 9: to say something someone who I have immense amount of

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00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 9: respect and admiration towards, you know, it really meant a

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Speaker 9: lot to me, and that inspired me to you know,

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Speaker 9: I didn't see myself as a mutant at the time,

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Speaker 9: but really to become that what coach saw to become that,

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Speaker 9: so you know, that's that's my guy. Though Coach heard

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Speaker 9: that's my guy.

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Speaker 1: How quickly did the mutant nickname spread?

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Speaker 3: Oh, it spread pretty quick.

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Speaker 9: I mean from the first from the training room to

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Speaker 9: the weight room, and then everybody started calling me that

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Speaker 9: on the field. It kind of took it took shape.

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00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 9: My teammates started being like, look at that, that's the music.

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Speaker 9: So yeah, it just it just stuck.

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Speaker 1: After that last year, you were a captain on an

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Speaker 1: undefeated national championship team. Describe the emotion when the confetti

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Speaker 1: is falling after you've won a national championship.

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Speaker 9: It's an emotion like unlike any other I've experienced, even

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Speaker 9: after one of my high school championship, because you just

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Speaker 9: know all that work you put in, you know, all

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Speaker 9: them video games and all them times watching the championship

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Speaker 9: as a kid dreaming to be in that moment, and

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Speaker 9: all the hard work you and your teammates did and

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Speaker 9: the coaches did to pay that all. You know, you

702
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 9: create such a tight knick connection and a family to

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Speaker 9: get you to that point. So seeing that all come

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Speaker 9: to fruition, you know you're gonna shut a tear for

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Speaker 9: every piece of confetti, man.

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Speaker 1: And you literally did. I saw a video of you

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Speaker 1: on the field with tears in your eyes after that.

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Speaker 9: Game because it didn't everything hit didn't hit until that moment,

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Speaker 9: because you know, we still had a job to do.

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00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 9: We still overcame a hurdle we haven't done in a

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Speaker 9: while to get to that point. But you know the

712
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 9: job wasn't finished until the clockhead zero, and the second

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Speaker 9: it did, you know I couldn't hold it back no more.

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Speaker 1: You won the title, so you obviously get a championship ring.

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Speaker 1: But I've seen pictures of a box with four rings

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Speaker 1: in it. What was the story?

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Speaker 3: Well, with the four rings. I don't really know myself.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I know it's two of them have something

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Speaker 9: to do with the college football playoffs in the National Championship.

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Speaker 9: One of them was the bowl game too, and then

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Speaker 9: the Big Ten. Yeah, the Big Ten Championship game as well,

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Speaker 9: I believe.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, not bad, it's pretty good swag. You played

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Speaker 1: in three games against Ohio State, you won all three.

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Speaker 1: How would you describe your feelings for the buck Eyes now?

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Speaker 9: Well, now, I mean there's a certain level level of respect,

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Speaker 9: you know, especially having so many buck Eye teammates in here,

728
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 9: but there's always going to be that rivalry whenever you

729
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Speaker 9: see them play, you know, and that's why I can't

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Speaker 9: wait for when we played them, you know, in a

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Speaker 9: couple of weeks now, But you know, it's that same

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Speaker 9: level of respect. But at the same time, you know,

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Speaker 9: you still our arrival though, so we know what time

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Speaker 9: it is.

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Speaker 1: Once that WEEKNDS you were drafted in the second round,

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Speaker 1: number forty nine overall. Was the draft stressful?

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Speaker 9: Absolutely? It didn't hit me till that day. You know,

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Speaker 9: my uncle told me it was going to be the

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Speaker 9: most stressful moment in my life. You know, I didn't

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Speaker 9: really see it happening until you know the phone the

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Speaker 9: clock started, and you know, having my family there, you

742
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 9: know I didn't pay attention to everyone. I had my

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00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 9: phone ready to go, and I can't tell you I

744
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 9: probably got five calls whenin that time that wasn't the call,

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00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 9: so I was I was stressing out. But but yeah, nah,

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Speaker 9: it was after that call, like, oh, it was the

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Speaker 9: best feeling ever.

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Speaker 1: People need to know. Don't call a guy the day

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Speaker 1: he's likely to be drafted and make him think that

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Speaker 1: it's the call.

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Speaker 9: You'll never see me jump quicker or move faster than that.

752
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 9: The whole room will shut down that they hear that

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00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 9: phone ring, and if you like not false alarm, they're

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00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 9: like ahn, yeah, but you know we we got that.

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00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 3: We got that fixed out the way quick. So it

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Speaker 3: was cool. All right.

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Speaker 1: A few wild card topics. Now for Chris Jenkins. In

758
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: high school, you apparently sang a solo in the choir.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember it? And do you care to give

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Speaker 1: us a sample?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 9: Now, I'm not gonna do a sample because I would

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Speaker 9: I would not do myself justice. I ain't been practicing,

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Speaker 9: but I think, honestly, I think you could find it

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Speaker 9: on SoundCloud. My teacher was my music teacher stand spots with.

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Speaker 9: He got a SoundCloud in the YouTube channel. I know

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Speaker 9: a couple of our videos out there, but I think

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Speaker 9: it was called Greatest Yell Mercy And yeah, we're practicing

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Speaker 9: for that now. I ain't do too bad, but it

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Speaker 9: wasn't it one of the best?

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Speaker 1: All right? I'll be going down the internet rabbit hole

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Speaker 1: after this to discover who is your all time favorite

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Speaker 1: athlete in any sport?

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Speaker 9: And why, Oh, it probably has to be between in

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00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 9: any sport. Has to be probably Kobe because there was

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Speaker 9: something just about between Kobe and d Rose, because there

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00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 9: was something about when we kids, you know, de Rose

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Speaker 9: was in his prime and Kobe was in his prime.

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Speaker 9: You know, we watched the games all the time, and

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Speaker 9: the second we step on the basketball court for recess,

781
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 9: we always trying to pick which one who gonna be?

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Speaker 9: Which one? So probably those two stuck with me the most.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing to me how often the answer to that

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Speaker 1: question is a basketball player as opposed to a football player.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think that's the case.

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Speaker 9: I think it's because if you know you about to

787
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Speaker 9: be a football player, then you you kind of like

788
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 9: fantasize if you were able to be a basketball player

789
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Speaker 9: because I knew I didn't have that type of you know,

790
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 9: hand eye coordination to do that. So, you know, it's

791
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 9: always fun to think about, you know, what if I

792
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 9: was like Kobe or something like that.

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00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: So, Chris, you told me after the draft that you

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00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: are a nerd with a comic book collection. Yes, what

795
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: books do you collect?

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Speaker 3: All types of Marvel books.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's really my main collection, given me for my grandfather.

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00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's mainly Marvel books. A lot of them.

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Speaker 3: Some of them I'm open.

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Speaker 9: Some of them are open, but it's a lot of

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00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 9: old time in nineteen seventies, I think, eighties, nineties.

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Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken.

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00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: You might be sitting on a gold mine.

804
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 3: Yeah maybe, who knows.

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00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 9: I mean they still from my grandpa, so they still

806
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 9: his technically, So I ain't gonna do nothing with them

807
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Speaker 9: if you don't want me to.

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Speaker 3: I'm still going to reading.

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Speaker 1: Your former college coach Jim Harbaugh said that you are

810
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Speaker 1: the poster child for enthusiasm unknown to mankind, which is

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Speaker 1: one of his favorite sayings. Are you naturally in a

812
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: good mood?

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00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 9: Absolutely? I mean not being surrounded by the people I am,

814
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 9: and then living the dream, at the position I am,

815
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Speaker 9: there's no reason for me not to be happy. So

816
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 9: you know it's hard for me, you know, to catch

817
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 9: me in a bad mood. But you know, I'm just

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Speaker 9: grateful for you know, my blessings and for God.

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Speaker 1: Do grumpy MOPy people annoy you?

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00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 9: Nah, Nah, I understand. I mean, you never know what

821
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 9: someone's going through. Maybe you catch them at a bad time,

822
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 9: maybe they got a lot of stuff going on. So me, personally,

823
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Speaker 9: I try my best to you know, be just be me,

824
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,959
Speaker 9: be goofy and try to hopefully cheer them up. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: I mean, it is what it is, so Camplin all right.

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Speaker 1: Final fun fact for Chris Jenkins. This one is kind

827
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Speaker 1: of deep. If you could meet anybody in history, living

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Speaker 1: or deceased, who would that person be?

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Speaker 9: My great great grandma because I've heard so much about her.

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00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 9: Actually I know I met her when I was two.

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Speaker 9: I've seen photos. I don't remember it, but she was

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Speaker 9: such a pillar in our family that I would just

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Speaker 9: love to if I had the opportunity to have at

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Speaker 9: least in conversation with her, that would be awesome.

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Speaker 1: Chris, this has been great. Appreciate your time. Best of luck,

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Speaker 1: the rest of the year.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely appreciate you. Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 8: All right.

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Speaker 1: So when I asked Chris about his solo in the

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Speaker 1: high school choir, he said, I think you can find

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Speaker 1: it on SoundCloud. My music teacher, Stan Spotswood has a channel. Well, Chris,

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Speaker 1: thanks for the tip. The song is Great is Your Mercy,

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Speaker 1: performed by the Good Counsel Choir featuring teenage soloist Chris Jenkins.

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