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Speaker 3: Hey, what's up. It's Kevin here. Just wanted to hop

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Speaker 4: This is a podcast came twenty five King Basketball and

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Speaker 5: Come twenty five.

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Speaker 6: Blowth wistles already?

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Speaker 1: Third, third, it's the great wait my tunes wrong, O

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Speaker 6: It's the most wonderful.

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Speaker 4: Time of the years. I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: This weekend, the Thursday on Friday, especially the Thursday, Friday,

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Speaker 6: Yes, the first full four day week is awesome. It's

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Speaker 1: There have been years where it's sucked and there are

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Speaker 7: I mean for NFL Sunday Ticket, the four games. But yes,

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Speaker 1: He was like, I was listening to your Matt jenkinsing

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying that like I.

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Speaker 6: But we are here. It's it's basketball. It's the greatest,

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Speaker 1: Just pick a team to win at all man, because

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Speaker 1: we're not gonna break down, Brad, I get bored and

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Speaker 1: people go down everything, every everything. Let's just pick one

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Speaker 1: team to do. You guys want to all put five

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Yes, yeah, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So Mike, you want to in or no, I'll

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Speaker 1: So if we have multiple picks, you get one pick

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Speaker 4: Right, but if like multiple people pick the same team, you'll.

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Speaker 6: Split the money.

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Speaker 1: So but everybody have your answer written down, say you

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Speaker 4: I got it.

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Speaker 1: And if you want to do more than five, you can.

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Speaker 1: We can do ten, but that's two teams. No, it's

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Speaker 6: It'd be worth a little more in case we split.

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Speaker 4: Let's do ten bucks.

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Speaker 6: Well that's yeah, I don't know. It is that they

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, I enjoy it because one people pay

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Speaker 4: I vote ten dollars ten pretty good.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Reid's crying. I'm ready, let's go twenty. What are

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Speaker 4: Ten?

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Speaker 6: Okay, ten is good.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So we have sixty bucks total. Pick your one

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Speaker 6: Duke, you suck, you suck dude. We hate you.

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Speaker 4: Cooper flag baby, and I can't change mind, can't change

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Speaker 1: I should have pulled out all the low seeds and

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Speaker 1: we should have picked somebody like an eight or below.

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Speaker 6: We made still to do that real quick. Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 6: Duke sucks. I hate dude. They're actually really good though,

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Speaker 6: what suck?

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Speaker 4: Cooper Flags and.

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Speaker 1: They've got two nasty freshmen and Cooper. Yeah, Mike going

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Speaker 1: to Auburn.

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Speaker 4: It's good, Mike Reid.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna go flow rudder. Good pick, oh good, pick Eddie.

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Speaker 4: I'm splitting the money with Kevin. I'm going to Duke

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Speaker 4: go Blue Devils.

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Speaker 6: I'm sweeping man which and I broom in the Auburn.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna be splitting that up. Okay, how about this, okay,

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Speaker 6: how about this? Pick a team yeah, he did.

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Speaker 1: Didn't he No, I didn't go, said, oh my bad.

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Speaker 6: I thought that meant you had Duke. Who do you have?

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Speaker 6: I like to apologize for not going. I thought you

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Speaker 6: York pick a team.

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Speaker 1: We all have to agree to the team being a

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Speaker 6: Five dollars bet. It's all good with that one.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, okay, don't look at my team.

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Speaker 1: So like out of the running Duke Auburn, Florida, Houston, Bama, Tennessee,

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Speaker 6: Those were kind of all out of it.

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Speaker 4: You didn't say the team.

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Speaker 4: You want me to go first, yep, I'm gonna go Texas,

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Speaker 1: Why oh they played I like A and M because

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Speaker 6: They play hard. They do play they do I like

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Speaker 4: And they have a player within the last name Garcia.

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Speaker 6: They go nice Kevin, I'm gonna go Arizona. Yeah that's good. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I like it. Okay, I accept it. You guys don't

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Speaker 4: But no, Arizona is accepted.

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Speaker 1: And I what sucks is already eliminated Texas Tech, and

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Speaker 1: I was my boy. I wish I wouldn't have eliminated him.

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Speaker 6: Okay, cal go ahead, Casey.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna go with Louisville. That's good.

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Speaker 4: It, Louisville. Yeah, we're in New York.

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Speaker 1: I gotta go SEC just because I've watched them play

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Speaker 1: Here he is Steve Rannella. Hey Steven, thanks for the time.

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Speaker 1: I have a lot to talk about with you. First

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Speaker 6: I grew up in Arkansas.

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Speaker 1: I had a fourten at nine years old, and I

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Speaker 5: because we used to be like, I remember kids. I

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Speaker 5: Well, man, they keep moving it back. I love it

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Speaker 5: Now they've gotten rid of all that stuff. Now it's

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Speaker 5: We again saying I had to say I did with

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Speaker 5: them out early. They've always been around it. You know.

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Speaker 5: be nervous right now, you know about grizzlies or whatever,

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Speaker 5: I'd say that there's nothing to worry about, they trust

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: So I don't mean to, like I don't want to.

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Speaker 5: I usually find that the people that are most critical

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Speaker 5: And I could about my kids all day long, and

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Speaker 5: But there's certain things that are cool about them. And

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Speaker 5: They're very comfortable around life and death. As my buddy says,

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Speaker 1: You bring up a grizzly as an example, but one

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I've had a couple. I've had a couple of

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Speaker 5: and we went back to fetch it, just kind of stupidly.

439
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,000
Speaker 5: I don't really know why. I felt that nothing had

440
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,240
Speaker 5: found the elk yet, and so we sat to eat

441
00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 5: lunch under the tree, me and my buddies that I

442
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,240
Speaker 5: was with, And while we were there, a bear came

443
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Speaker 5: in and came in hard my one body. He had

444
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Speaker 5: his pistol and a pepper spray sitting on each side

445
00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,399
Speaker 5: of him. But when that bear came in, it happened

446
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 5: so fast. He smoked it across the face with a

447
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 5: pair of trekking poles. I twisted my ankle up bad.

448
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,919
Speaker 5: I don't know. I feel like his foot landed on

449
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,440
Speaker 5: my ankle, but I'm not totally positive. But it's crazy.

450
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:46,160
Speaker 5: Is my buddy Dirt got knocked over by the bear.

451
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 5: And I'm not kidding you, man. Dirt rode the bear

452
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 5: straight downhill for about fifteen yards. I mean he rode,

453
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 5: He rode on the bear. I thought the bear had him,

454
00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 5: I thought it was holding him. So we all ran

455
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 5: down the hill, but Dirk came squirting back up out

456
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 5: of the alders, running back the other way, and dude,

457
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 5: it was. It kind of messed with me a little

458
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 5: bit psychologically for a while, to be honest with you.

459
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 5: It was so close. It was so close.

460
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Speaker 1: I had a show on nat Geo for a while

461
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 1: and we went up. We fell into Bozemu and then

462
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 1: we drove into the park and probably two or three

463
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 1: hours out of Bozeman, and we were traveling around with

464
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 1: sheep herders because the predators come in at night and

465
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,239
Speaker 1: try to eat the sheep, and so we were so

466
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:34,200
Speaker 1: that's what we were doing.

467
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 6: We were with them.

468
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 1: I was kind of learning about what their job was

469
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 1: and how they'd be out for months at a time.

470
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 1: But you know, they had equipped me with things in case,

471
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:43,360
Speaker 1: and we did end up seeing a bear.

472
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Speaker 6: It was far.

473
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 1: It was with the night vision, so we knew where

474
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 1: not to go. But they equiped me. They gave me

475
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 1: bear spray, and we didn't have grizzlies in Arkansas. We

476
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 1: had black bears and we'd have grizzlies. So they said, Okay,

477
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,119
Speaker 1: if a bear attacks you, here's the bear spray. Shoot

478
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 1: it at the ground and then the bear will come

479
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 1: through the ground and stop. It felt to me like

480
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 1: when I was eleven, and they said, spray cologne in

481
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 1: the air and walk through it. I felt like there

482
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 1: was no way that this bear spray shooting into the

483
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 1: ground was going to stop a bear. So if you

484
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 1: were me and a bear was attacking, would you have

485
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 1: sprayed the spray at all?

486
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 4: Or would you just go full gun?

487
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 1: Like?

488
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 6: What do you know about bear spray?

489
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Speaker 5: What I think they're what they're meaning? Well, what I

490
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,880
Speaker 5: know about bear sprays. I've been in two instances where

491
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:29,159
Speaker 5: people have gotten hosed by spray, me and another person,

492
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,880
Speaker 5: but I haven't been I haven't hosed a bear that yet.

493
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,919
Speaker 5: I've shot in front of bears, you know, shot in

494
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 5: front of him to try to spook them. But what

495
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 5: I think what they're getting at is aim low with spray.

496
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 5: You know, you want to get so that bears like

497
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,199
Speaker 5: twenty yards. If he's coming, and he's coming and he

498
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 5: gets to twenty yards, what they're saying is hose down

499
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Speaker 5: in front of him so that you're not blowing it

500
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,479
Speaker 5: back over the top of them, but you're owing it.

501
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 5: I would think you're aiming. If he's coming, you're aiming

502
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 5: down at his feet, you know, if.

503
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 6: He's coming up running and peeing everywhere.

504
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, because you're putting out a cloud of that stuff, right,

505
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 5: and man, I know. So I interviewed a girl one

506
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 5: time that was getting mauled by a grizzly and she

507
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 5: had her spray on her chest. She was a grizzly

508
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 5: bear researcher. She had her spray on her chest and

509
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 5: the bear got her down and it actually got one

510
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 5: of its one of its canines, and through pop through

511
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 5: her skull. But she had her spray on her chest

512
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 5: and without even being able to see the bear was

513
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 5: able to take that spray in her chest and shoot

514
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,199
Speaker 5: it like over her own shoulder and got it in

515
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 5: the face and it dropped her. I interviewed another dude

516
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 5: that last year he got malled. All he managed to

517
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 5: do is get his spray out before the bear hit him,

518
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 5: and the bear was mauling him and he was trying

519
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 5: to so he had his spray. There's like a ring

520
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 5: on your spray. It looks like like a trigger guard.

521
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 5: It's like a little handle, and he had his spray

522
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 5: like hanging from that ring. Like here's a people that

523
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 5: are watching, like I'm holding a suppressor, but picture that

524
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 5: I had a ring on it. So he's holding the

525
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 5: canister like this, and he goes to protect They always

526
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 5: tell you to protect the back of your neck with

527
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 5: your hands if you're getting muled. And he goes to

528
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 5: protect the back of his neck, but he's got that

529
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 5: spray on there like a ring. And that bear bit

530
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 5: through the spray and hosed itself by biting the spray

531
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 5: and got a mouthful of that and dropped him and

532
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 5: ran off. And what's hilarious, dude, is my kids lost

533
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 5: one of my sprays last summer, and later me and

534
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 5: my wife find the spray laying all that this place

535
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 5: where we can't we final where they drop the spray,

536
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 5: and the spray is erupted, and it's got four big

537
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 5: bite marks in it, like a bear found that and

538
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 5: bit because there's something about there's something about the smell

539
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 5: of it that, in small doses is attractive to him.

540
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 5: I'll never get it, man, but it bit that sucker,

541
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 5: so he must have got a faceful. He must have

542
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 5: got a faceful of that junk.

543
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Speaker 1: My fear was because I'll be in like action movies

544
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: where they have like the rocket launcher and the person

545
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: that doesn't know how to use it holds it up

546
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 1: and they end up shooting backward. That happens, and my

547
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 1: fear was if a bear's coming at me, okay, and

548
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: I end up spraying myself because they can. Luckily never

549
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: had to use it. But they also said, like, don't

550
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: shoot a bear because you will get in trouble if

551
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: you shoot a bear unless you can actually prove you're

552
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 1: being attacked or threatened. And I thought, if there's anywhere

553
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: near me like something's getting shot me or it like

554
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 1: something's getting shot. But that was their big lesson was

555
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: the reason we say this is because we can't have

556
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: people shooting bears.

557
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 5: Well, they do investigate it, but I mean every year,

558
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 5: you know, like in the state I live in, you know,

559
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 5: we got a thousand grizzly bears right in this area,

560
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 5: you know. I mean, we could argue all day about

561
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 5: the exact numbers, but we got grizzy bears. We have

562
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 5: ten times as many black bears, which never kill anybody

563
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 5: in Montana. But every year grizzlies dust off one or

564
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 5: two people in Montana. And every year people dust off

565
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 5: a handful of grizzlies and they get killed by a

566
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 5: lot of times, you get killed by bow hunters who

567
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 5: are hunt elk and they'll investigate it. But oftentimes it's

568
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 5: totally legitimate. Man. It's like you know, you're you get

569
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 5: hit or you got one coming at you. But yeah,

570
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 5: they'll come out the US Fish and Wildlife Service, they'll

571
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 5: investigate the incidents. They'll find out if you were jumpy,

572
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 5: you know, if it was going away at forty yards

573
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 5: and it was walking away and you shoot it, yeah,

574
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 5: you're gonna be in trouble because you just got too jumpy. Yeah,

575
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 5: if that thing's coming at you and it's five yards

576
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 5: away and no one's gonna they're not gonna blame you.

577
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 5: But people gotta be cool headed. That's the thing about spray,

578
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 5: Like it's people argue this in my world, Like people

579
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 5: argue this all day long, dude, people like this ruins friendships,

580
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 5: this argument of pistols versus bear spray. But like it

581
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 5: does seem there's a very compelling case to be made

582
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 5: that spray is better, especially if you're not like a

583
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 5: super experienced marksman with a pistol, because with spray, you

584
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 5: don't need to be accurate. You just need to be

585
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 5: in the right in the right direction, you know.

586
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,959
Speaker 1: With your show hunting, Well, yeah, it also feels to

587
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: me like you know, bird shot, a buckshot versus a

588
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: slug or a rifle, right like you if you got

589
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: one shot for me, I'm not going to be as

590
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 1: good of a shot as some of my friends. So

591
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: I want that spread to be as wide as possible.

592
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 1: And that's basically what the bear spray is versus a

593
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: pistol or rifle.

594
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, everybody likes to think there's some commando with their pistol,

595
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 5: you know, dude.

596
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, hunting history, what's interesting to me is how people

597
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: hunted before we existed.

598
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 6: I grew up in Arkansas where there's a lot.

599
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: Of Native America and their arrowheads just randomly in places,

600
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: and to me it was wild and how they would

601
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 1: create arrows. Like to you, because you've spent so much

602
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: time studying this, documenting that you've made this into a show,

603
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: like what is the technology that now we look at

604
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: to go, how in the heck do they do that?

605
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: But they were able to be effective hunting.

606
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 5: You know. I was having this discussion in the r

607
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 5: day with a historian who spends a lot of time

608
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 5: working on questions around what would it have been like

609
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 5: for the first humans to come into the New World?

610
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 5: Like what would have been like the first people to

611
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 5: touch the ground and what is now the United States.

612
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 5: And there's this idea that these hunters, these ice age

613
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 5: hunters we call them clob as hunters now or other names,

614
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 5: that these ice age hunters were able to wipe out

615
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 5: mammoths using spheares. And you'd say, well, how in the

616
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 5: world is that possible. But picture it like this, that

617
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 5: like the mammas had never seen anybody before, you know,

618
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 5: so we get accustom now to wildlife that has a

619
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 5: pretty good familiarity with humans.

620
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 4: You know.

621
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 5: You'll see that. You'll see with all these different species

622
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 5: that they have a pretty good sense of what is

623
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:27,719
Speaker 5: a safe distance from people. Compare that to accounts that

624
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 5: you read of like whalers being the first people to

625
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 5: ever step foot on some island, like even in the

626
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 5: early nineteen hundreds, late eighteen hundreds, like whalers will be

627
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 5: the first people to arrive at an island. And look

628
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 5: what they describe. They describe you walk up and literally

629
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 5: pick up wildlife, birds land on you. Things exhibit zero

630
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 5: fear of people. I'm not detracting from the skill sets

631
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 5: of these ancient hunters, but they were in a different

632
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 5: set of circumstances dealing with wildf They had a different

633
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 5: sense of what the threat that humans presented. You know.

634
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 5: So now if you're bow hunting elk, it might be

635
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 5: really challenging to get forty yards from an elk that's

636
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 5: had some hunting pressure put on it, right, But maybe

637
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 5: a few hundred years ago it was pretty easy to

638
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 5: get Maybe it was challenging to get four or five

639
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 5: yards away from an elk, right. So the technologies have changed,

640
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 5: but so is the response, the human response to animals.

641
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 5: It's a real rich field of inquiry, man, And that's

642
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 5: just like one element. The other element of it is

643
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 5: is that if you live in a lot of states

644
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 5: now and you're like a big deer hunter, you might

645
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 5: only have a ten day deer season. So you could

646
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 5: identify as a deer hunter, and you might read about

647
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 5: deer hunting and dream about deer hunting, but when it

648
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 5: comes down to it, you deer hunt ten days, you know,

649
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 5: for some people. Now imagine that. Imagine that you deer

650
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 5: hunted two hundred days a year in the same areas

651
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 5: that your father hunted two hundred days a year for

652
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 5: forty years, in the same area that your grandfather hunted

653
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 5: two days a year or two hundred days a year

654
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 5: for forty years. Imagine the body of knowledge that you

655
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 5: would have accumulated. So like, our ideas about hunting and

656
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 5: tactical understandings of it are probably just like nothing compared

657
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 5: to people that lived a hunter gather lifestyle. And I've

658
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 5: been fortunate to travel in South America with in you know,

659
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 5: indigenous hunter gathers, and I'm telling you can't keep up

660
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 5: with them. Mentally, you can't keep up with them.

661
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: I was going through and I don't I definite don't

662
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: want to spoil anything in the work that you've done.

663
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: But I've been fascinated with Dbe Cooper. I can envision

664
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: the drawing that has existed in mind. I can just

665
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: see it, the drawing of him and what they think

666
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: he looked like, and how he did and how he

667
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: jumped out of the plane. Do you think he survived?

668
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 5: You know what I went in. We did a Yeah,

669
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 5: we did a hunting history episode on dB. Cooper. We

670
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 5: just focused on that question because a lot of it,

671
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 5: like like our focus is always on these areas of

672
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 5: mysteries that have a wilderness component to have like a

673
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 5: survival component or a hunter gatherer component, And with dB

674
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 5: Cooper we got into that that this jump the jump zone,

675
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 5: so just for people to for quick recap. In the

676
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,719
Speaker 5: nineteen seventies, there was this there was this like epidemic

677
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 5: of skyjackings. D B. Cooper is the only unsolved skyjacking

678
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 5: in US history where a guy gets on a plane,

679
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 5: takes hostages, demands money, gets the money, jumps out of

680
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 5: a plane never to be seen again, jumps out in Washington.

681
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 5: The FBI identified a drop zone based on all these

682
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 5: different inputs, and it was like rugged, mountainous terrain, heavily forested.

683
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 5: I always, just as a passive, like you know, dB Cooper,

684
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 5: observer reader, I always saw there's no way the guy lived.

685
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 5: You know, he jumped out at night, he didn't pack

686
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 5: his own shoot I just thought the reason they never

687
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 5: found him is he was burrowed into the mucking moss

688
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 5: somewhere and that was it. Right. But man, after working

689
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 5: on that episode and hanging around with you know, Paara,

690
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 5: shooters that have done like twelve thousand jumps, military paratroopers, dude,

691
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 5: these people that really know that world, They're like, no,

692
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,239
Speaker 5: there's no reason to think he wasn't fine. They're just like,

693
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 5: why no, land in the tree don't matter? Land Like

694
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 5: They're like, he definitely is fine. It really changed my idea.

695
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 5: So then it brings up the next question is what

696
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 5: happened to him when he hit the ground and what

697
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 5: did he do?

698
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 4: Well?

699
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: They found money too, like like parts of dollar bills

700
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: in the area, but they did well.

701
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, dude, yeah they did.

702
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 4: What do you not say?

703
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 6: What do you what are you trying to not say

704
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 6: right now?

705
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 4: What do you what do you think? No?

706
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 5: No, no, they did. It was the money way away

707
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 5: from there in the clumb or way away from the

708
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 5: FBI's drops. A kid was clearing out a place to

709
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 5: make a fire on the beach on the Columbia River

710
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 5: on a mud bar. He's cleared out a little place

711
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 5: to make a fire and finds a stack of rotten

712
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 5: twenty dollars bills. And this is in the eighties. If

713
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 5: you look at the FBI's drop zone, Okay, what the

714
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 5: FBI determined to be the drop zone. If dB cooper

715
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 5: it dropped that money either in the air, threw it

716
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 5: out of the plane whatever, like, landed, lost it, whatever,

717
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 5: and you put it into a creek and there's a

718
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 5: lot of rivers and creeks there, and you put it

719
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 5: in a creek, it would not have washed to the

720
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 5: place where it was deposited in a gravel bar. So

721
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 5: either the drop zone is all the way way off,

722
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 5: either it's way off and he dropped it, or whatever

723
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 5: the hell happened, or some one after the fact, someone

724
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 5: later after the fact went and buried that stuff. There

725
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 5: a guy I interview and hang out with in there

726
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,720
Speaker 5: who is a real he's like a citizen sleuth type

727
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 5: that has really dedicated himself to the DV Cooper mystery.

728
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 5: He thinks that the FBI's drop zone was off and

729
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 5: they were way off, and that dB Cooper buried that

730
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 5: stuff in the gravel bar. What's funny, now, when I

731
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 5: went to the spot, when you go to the spot,

732
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 5: you're sitting nine feet below where they found the money.

733
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 5: So if you said it, where'd you find the money,

734
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 5: it was nine feet over your head because that gravel

735
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 5: bar is gone now the Columbia River ate it. So, dude,

736
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 5: it's like it is such a rabbit hole, man, you

737
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 5: can't It'll like, dude, if you get into the whole

738
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 5: DV Cooper thing and you start unraveling all the things

739
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 5: that it'll kill you. I mean it'll kill you because

740
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 5: it's too much, too much. It's such a perfect it's

741
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 5: like the perfect mystery. It's the gift that keeps giving.

742
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: The show Hunting History with Steven Roanella. It's eight episodes.

743
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: He's teaming up with the historians, an archaeologist, and a

744
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: really cool cast of outdoor professionals. And it's very much storytelling.

745
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: And I think that's what you know, having consumed your

746
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: content in different ways. I think that's what's a bit

747
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: different about this is it feels to me like this

748
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: is a new element because there is so much storytelling involved.

749
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is. Man, when we were looking at all

750
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 5: these stories, like we did a great one on the

751
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 5: Donner Party too.

752
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 6: That's crazy at all these stories the Donnor Party is crazy.

753
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: They will you just give a brief description of that

754
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: so people know what you're talking about.

755
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I was telling this some I was telling

756
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 5: the story to my kids last night or dinner. So

757
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 5: in eighteen forty six, people are through at the Oregon Trail.

758
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 5: Right well, in eighteen forty six, this big group of

759
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 5: families they all leave Missouri and they're traveling together or

760
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 5: over the Oregon Trail, and this group of them, these

761
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 5: are kind of loose groupings of families, but this group

762
00:36:55,719 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 5: of them, under this under the leadership, with this patriot,

763
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 5: this Donner fellow, they decide to take a thing called

764
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 5: the Hastings cut Off, which is supposed to be a

765
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 5: short cut to California. In fact, it's like a long cut.

766
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 5: It's worse conditions. And now we understand with you know

767
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 5: now that you can look at a map, it's actually longer.

768
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 5: So it's like a longer, worse route billed as a

769
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 5: short cut. So that when they get to the they

770
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 5: have to cross the Sierra Nevada. The picture of this

771
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 5: is the mountain range. It separates like Nevada from California. Great,

772
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 5: you know, great skiing destination. Now they have to cross

773
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 5: the Sierra Vana. There's a early blizzard, there's early snowstorm,

774
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 5: and it catches them way up in the mountains. It's

775
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 5: early enough in the year they think that maybe it'll

776
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 5: melt off and they'll be able to continue on their way,

777
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 5: but it just gets worse and worse, to the point

778
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 5: where eventually they can't even backtrack. They can't go back

779
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 5: the way they came and they get stuck there. What

780
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 5: they're really famous for is they're famous for cannibalism. So

781
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 5: if you make a joke about the Donner Party today,

782
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 5: like Donner Family Dinner right, winds up being as a

783
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 5: cannibalism joke. And they did resort to cannibalism. However, there's

784
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 5: like this thing and I knew all that outline, right,

785
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 5: but here here's here's what I did never, I never

786
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 5: thought about. And I have three kids. Over half of

787
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 5: the people in the Donner Party were little kids, were children,

788
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 5: and children wound up being of the survivors. Over half

789
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 5: of the Donner Party survived, and children were far more

790
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 5: likely than the adults to survive the ordeal. So you

791
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 5: could look at the Donner Party as this American horror

792
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 5: story about these people committing this atrocity of cannibalism, or

793
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 5: you could look at it like this, which is the

794
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 5: conclusion I come away with. You could look at it

795
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 5: like this, It was people family doing everything possible, and

796
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 5: I mean everything possible to keep their children alive. Very

797
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 5: different like of looking at something. And when I got done,

798
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 5: I'm like, dude, I'm gonna stop making jokes about I'm

799
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 5: gonna stop making Donner Party cannibalism jokes.

800
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: Man.

801
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 5: It was a herrowing thing, and it's and it's and

802
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 5: they get kind of blamed for it, you know, but dude,

803
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 5: it was a freak blizzard and people had successfully crossed

804
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 5: the Sierra Nevada had successfully crossed later in the year

805
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 5: than they did. It was just they were just victims

806
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 5: of horrible luck and something really bad happened him. They

807
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 5: weren't like, they weren't dumb, they weren't desperate. I mean,

808
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 5: they got desperate, but they were.

809
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 6: You know.

810
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 5: It's it's like this heroic tale that has been just

811
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 5: kind of abused over the years.

812
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: I think I like to encourage everybody check it out

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Speaker 1: Hunting History with Steven Arnella and follow Stephen at Stevenarrella

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00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: on Instagram.

815
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Speaker 6: I really appreciate the half hour he spent with Stephen.

816
00:39:55,280 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: Great stories, big fan, and I again, who the heck

817
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: was dB Cooper? Even I think I've watched so many

818
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: many documentaries, documentaries, I've watched tiktoks on people's theories then

819
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: all of it.

820
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 4: I didn't know who you guys were talking about, but

821
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 4: I'm all in.

822
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 6: Do you see the picture of them, though, does it

823
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 6: recognize it?

824
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 4: I didn't even look at it. I'm all in the

825
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 4: when we're done with it, I'm all in.

826
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 5: Can I tell you one last funny thing?

827
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:17,959
Speaker 6: Yes, sir?

828
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 5: So after like while working on that DV Cooper deal. Later,

829
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 5: I get a message from a guy who sends me

830
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 5: some pictures of the FBI guy, the FBI agent who

831
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 5: was prepping the people to do the composite drawing. So

832
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 5: the picture you're talking about of what he supposed he

833
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 5: looks like it was so funny? Is the drawing looks

834
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 5: astonishingly similar to the FBI agent, Like here was the

835
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 5: last guy they talked to, and it almost like they

836
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Speaker 5: described the last dude they spoke That is.

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Speaker 1: Weird, Steve. I appreciate you, man. I hope you have

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Speaker 1: a great day. Good luck with the series, and hopefully

839
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Speaker 1: I'll run it. See you somewhere, man.

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Speaker 5: you go now. I'll take care, all.

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Speaker 1: I saw where twenty four seven sports had the five

876
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: worst NFL teams to be a fan of, according to science.

877
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: So according to science, yeah, okay, So they use a

878
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: lot of different things, performance relative to expectations, draft decisions,

879
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: roster talent, fan morale. So before I read you this

880
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: and we can go any sport, this will be NFL. Okay,

881
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: and this will be in conclusion, what team does it

882
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: suck to be a fan of? And I will go first, Well,

883
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 1: I have to the Arkansas Razorbacks. Anytime we get a blip,

884
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: it goes away quick. And then I've been a Chicago

885
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: Cups fan my whole life. We had it in twenty sixteen.

886
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: That was great, but it's very difficult up until that point,

887
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: it's been difficult since that's a self I'm a selfish

888
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 1: I'm a loser in sports, from my sports SCEINMS, I'm

889
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: a loser. So I'll put them up on the list.

890
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 6: The Razorbacks. Yeah, I didn't choose it.

891
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 4: It shows you, It shows.

892
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 6: Me and I.

893
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: If anything, I am consistent and I start crying, you know,

894
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: I stay with my people. So I will never not

895
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: be a Cups fan. I will never not be an

896
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 1: Arkansas Razor Backe fan. But it's been tough, Eddie.

897
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 6: Are you going with the Are you going with the Cowboys?

898
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 8: No?

899
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 4: No, I love being a Cowboys fan.

900
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 6: But hard to be a fan is the question.

901
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 4: It's very different to be a fan one because America

902
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 4: hates you, like people just hate this. People hate Cowboys fans.

903
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 6: Why do you think that is? Though? No, you don't

904
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 6: just exist. We do exist, but you don't just exist.

905
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask, but you kind of answered the

906
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: question because that's not true. Why do you think people

907
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: hate Cowboys fans?

908
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 4: I think the whole America's team. Uh, we're always you know,

909
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 4: and the media covers us all the time. That's part

910
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 4: of the Yes, even if we're bad, they cover how

911
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 4: bad we are. Like bad decisions, they cover the bad decisions.

912
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, and we're always just there, like

913
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 4: primetime too, TV puts us at prime time. I think

914
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 4: that the whole media, sports talk all them want the

915
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 4: Cowboys as far as topics go. But fans they're just like,

916
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 4: shut up, our team's way better than the Cowboys, and

917
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 4: you never cover us.

918
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Cowboys fans they have a sense of

919
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: importance when they really don't as far as how good

920
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: the team has been. But that team gets clicks and

921
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 1: use so they get shoved in everybody's face even when

922
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: they're bad.

923
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 4: So then people resent them, Like I think my son

924
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 4: got mad the like in the season because we got

925
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 4: game of the week or something and it was like

926
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 4: us in the Giants, like how is this the game

927
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:11,479
Speaker 4: of the week.

928
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: But it's also people like you going, I don't get it.

929
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: I don't get we just exist. That's just not true.

930
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 4: You exist.

931
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: You're shoved down everybody's throats, and if you could just admit,

932
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: is that our fault? But if you could admit, I

933
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: know what's annoying? All everybody wants to talk about Cowboys

934
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: and we suck. It would be different, but Cowboys fans

935
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 1: have a sense of belonging when they don't really belong.

936
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 4: I guess it's kind of cool though that, like they

937
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 4: cover us any anyway, Like even if we're bad and

938
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 4: we're hurting or whatever, it's still kind of cool that

939
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 4: people still talk about the Cowboys because they get clicks. Yeah,

940
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 4: but that has nothing to do with us. We're just living.

941
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 4: That's not sure.

942
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 6: You're not just living though you're America's team. You say it, Casey.

943
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I gotta go with the New York

944
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 7: freaking Jets. It's New York in the winter. The field sucks,

945
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 7: the owner sucks. He got an f in the grading thing.

946
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 7: Uh yeah, it's it's I feel like we're the number

947
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:03,959
Speaker 7: one thing on this list.

948
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 6: We're not number one money on that.

949
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 5: No.

950
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 4: Oh, okay, Brown, number one.

951
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 6: Brown, number one.

952
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 4: Yeah.

953
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: NFL, let's go baseball then real quick. It sucks to

954
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: be a fan of I'm gonna go Kansas City. They

955
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: have a small market team, no love. Uh, they don't

956
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: spend money. Baseball does not have a salary cap, so

957
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: they'll have to pay extra taxes. But the Yankees can

958
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: spend all they want. The Dodgers can spend all they want,

959
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,959
Speaker 1: and they do, and so luxury tax is different.

960
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 6: Than a cap. And in the NBA they have different

961
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 6: like aprons. Right yeah, but baseball.

962
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: You just spend all you want, get all you want,

963
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 1: and then you'll pay a little luxury tax on it.

964
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: It's wild and that's why the teams like the Yankees

965
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: and the Dodgers. I say, Yankees, they don't want World

966
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,479
Speaker 1: Series is, but they're always in the mix.

967
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, about what about the A's, Like they still

968
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 4: share a field.

969
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 6: The A's aren't even the A's are moving. I think, yeah,

970
00:46:58,640 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 6: that's how much that's tough.

971
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's got to be hard, like if you're

972
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 4: a lifelong A's fan.

973
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 6: So the A's exist, but not in Oakland anymore. It's

974
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 6: gonna be the Las Vegas I guess.

975
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, all their teams are gone now right because the

976
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 7: Raiders and uh the Warriors.

977
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 4: I mean real though it's Oakland like, but what were

978
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 4: they doing with the team anyway? Like San Francisco. I

979
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 4: understand you're a big market Oakland.

980
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 6: Don't be a hater.

981
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: Dade don't a city on a city, So I go Royals,

982
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: you know, the Indians can be tough. All They've had

983
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: some good teams, but that can be tough if they

984
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 1: don't spend money. The small market teams in baseball, Pittsburgh.

985
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 6: The good one. Yeah.

986
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: Basketball, harlet, Oh, Charlotte terrible. I'd hate to be a

987
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: Charlotte fan. I'd hate to be a Pelicans fan.

988
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

989
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: And the Pelicans, it's not their fault. They missed on

990
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: Zion because they didn't miss they had to drive Zion.

991
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: They got lucky enough to get the number one overall

992
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: pick and that set them back. Yeah, so it would

993
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: suck to be a Pelicans fan.

994
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 4: Have the Hawks done anything?

995
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: I mean, Trey Young keeps them in that mediocre play

996
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 1: where he goes and scores forty but they don't win.

997
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:02,959
Speaker 5: Yeah.

998
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: Like he's like every once in a while to go

999
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: to New York and you know, beat the Knicks and

1000
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: choke himself. Yeah. Yeah, let's bike Lee here. Atlanta will

1001
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: be a tough, tough basketball team. Be a fan of it,

1002
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: because they really they don't suck. They're the Steelers of

1003
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: the NBA where they don't suck enough. They finally did

1004
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: get a top pick this last year and it was

1005
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: the worst draft ever.

1006
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they have stuff.

1007
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: And they have you know, as of right now, one

1008
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: of the top three picks for nexture, but the Spurs

1009
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: own their pick. So yeah, be tough to being a

1010
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: Hawks fan.

1011
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 4: Trailblazers too.

1012
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 7: I feel like it's been pretty rough.

1013
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: And you're so disconnected up there, which is why players

1014
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: really don't want to go up there.

1015
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, that would be tough. And then football, all these

1016
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 6: are football ready.

1017
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: Number five the Tennessee Titans, we know this, but we

1018
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 1: don't expect anything at this point.

1019
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 4: Who who's their best player? Like right now, right now,

1020
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 4: I've thought about that. I'm like, man, I can't name.

1021
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 6: Super Yeah the cornerback that came from Kansas City.

1022
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 7: Yeah sneat, Yeah, Steed's good.

1023
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, But again, football has so many freaking

1024
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 1: positions that unless you're more than a casual, you're not

1025
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 1: even gonna know that. Their colors look slow.

1026
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 6: Everything's about the how's the kicker for the Titans.

1027
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 4: I don't even know the kicker I'm going to tell

1028
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 4: you now.

1029
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 7: With the whole science factor, though, it's like.

1030
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 1: So performance versus expectations. The Titans have had fluctuating success,

1031
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 1: with recent seasons not meeting heightened expectations set by previous

1032
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: year's playoff appearances, so anytime they play well, they tend

1033
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: to not play as well the next year draft decision.

1034
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 1: Some first round picks have not delivered the anticipated impact,

1035
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: affecting the team's competitiveness. I would look back when they

1036
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: traded AJ Brown and they ended up drafting Treylon Burks

1037
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: from Arkansas, and he's been hurt the whole time. Yeah,

1038
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: like they lost a guy. I mean, they got a

1039
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: pick and they use that to draft somebody.

1040
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,280
Speaker 4: In an AJ Brown clone workout roster talent.

1041
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: They've had players like Derrick Henry, but other areas like

1042
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: offensive line have kept Henry from flourishing. And now he

1043
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: doesn't play with them, and he goes to the freaking

1044
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: Ravens and crushes great looks like he's twenty five years

1045
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: old and fan morale. The Nashville fan base is dedicated,

1046
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: but his face disappointment due to unmet expectations and playoff shortcomings.

1047
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 4: I bought tickets for five bucks. Man, Oh that's a pop.

1048
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 6: That's bad.

1049
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: And sometimes there will be games I drive by the

1050
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: stadium here game during game day. Hey yeah, and it's cold.

1051
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: I'm like, who would ever go sit in that terrible team.

1052
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 6: I thought. Once I got on.

1053
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: The NFL Network show and a good Morning Football, Good

1054
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: Morning Football. Yes, I was thinking, money want a quarterback,

1055
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: Good Morning Football, and I was talking about the Titans

1056
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: and how bad they were, and I was just going on.

1057
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: I was just doing a bit, and I don't know

1058
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: if it ever got back to them, but if it did,

1059
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: we ain't gonna be welcoming over there anymore, because yeah,

1060
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: I was just riffing. Yeah. Do you see Zach Mettenberger,

1061
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: the old quarterback for the Titans, is now coaching. I

1062
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: believe Father Ryan high.

1063
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 4: School one school, but he's so in.

1064
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 1: This picture where they announce him, and you may look

1065
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: at this up, Mike, it's one of those Christian private schools.

1066
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: He's covered in tattoos on his arms and everybody's just

1067
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: going to talent.

1068
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 6: I'm like, this is not Christian. This is not Christian's

1069
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 6: got tattooed.

1070
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 4: If it's Father Ryan, it's a Catholic school.

1071
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: I think unbelievable that people were looking at his tattoos

1072
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: and going that does not represent what year are we in?

1073
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 4: I know it's Father Ryan high School. Crazy.

1074
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 6: I felt bad for him.

1075
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: You got it, NFL quarterback coming to coach, and you've

1076
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: got these parents going, he can't coach our Christian school.

1077
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 6: Look at his tattoos.

1078
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 4: That's ridiculous.

1079
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 6: Is this nineteen twenty two? Is this sailor on leave

1080
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 6: getting tattoos out the port?

1081
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 7: It sounds like it.

1082
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: Crazy now number four of the commanders, but they are

1083
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: on the way up. The team has experienced limited postseason

1084
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 1: success in recent decades, but generally underperforming.

1085
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 4: And they should be happy from last year.

1086
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: Dan Snyder sucked as an owner. That's what this is.

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00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: That's just Dan Snyder sucking. They have anue owner now,

1088
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 1: so that's why you're actually seeing the team play well.

1089
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 6: New leadership. Next up the Jet to three.

1090
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 4: All right, Casey, it's all right. I had a feeling a.

1091
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: Lot of draft inconsistency and struggles with early round picks.

1092
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, we have drafted a lot of the defensive players

1093
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 7: that have not panned out. I remember d Milliner, the

1094
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 7: cornerback from Alabama, was supposed to be a stud. He

1095
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 7: was didn't turn out to be much. Yeah, Jamal Adams.

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00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 6: Are crying out too. Yeah, it's Casey and I just

1097
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 6: crying in his whole segment.

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00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:34,919
Speaker 4: You know, my kids asked me about Mark Sanchez, like franchise. Yeah, yeah,

1099
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 4: that's what we believed. They're like, what kind of quarterback

1100
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 4: was he? And I'm like, I don't, I don't know.

1101
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 4: I don't really remember ended the ball.

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00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 1: A lot, but I would say he's one of the

1103
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that probably never had the ability to show how

1104
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: good of a quarterback he was because the people around

1105
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: him weren't good. Yeah, if you get drafted into a

1106
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: you know, a bad organization, it almost doesn't matter because

1107
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 1: you see that with guys like you know, Bryce Young,

1108
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, where they go in and they

1109
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: suck and you're like, well they're losers. But then they

1110
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: go somewhere else, not Bryce Young, yet new coach came in,

1111
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 1: but they go somewhere else and they play pretty good

1112
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: to really good, and you're going, man, it's all about

1113
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: where you land. Like you have to have the skills,

1114
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: but it's all about where you land. And Sanchez took

1115
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 1: them to the AFC two years.

1116
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 4: In a row.

1117
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, in the in the beginning of his career.

1118
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 7: But then when we had to actually rely on him

1119
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 7: to do something, you couldn't do it, And then we

1120
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 7: had t Bow. I don't know if you guys remember

1121
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 7: we had like the t Bow Sanchez dual connection.

1122
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,439
Speaker 4: Thing they played at the same time.

1123
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 7: Yeah, Rex Ryan picked up t Bow after Denver. I

1124
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 7: can't recall a year, but yeah, we've we've done a

1125
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 7: lot of experiments blocking that out failures.

1126
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 4: I can't recall blocked the trauma trauma, and.

1127
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 6: Cleveland's at one. Who thinks of two? What's the one

1128
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 6: football team I left out that? Do you think.

1129
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 4: Jacksonville?

1130
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 6: Jacksonville's got to be tough, not top five, probably not

1131
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 6: been around long enough overall, Like you don't have a

1132
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,439
Speaker 6: lot of grandparents that were Jaguar fans that have passed

1133
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 6: it down because they didn't exist.

1134
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, true, Okay.

1135
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 6: Chargers mm hmmm. A lot of disappointment, but no, the

1136
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 6: team's good now.

1137
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: Detroit Yeah, oh yeah, we forget how terrible they have

1138
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 1: been for decades because of what Dan Campbell's been able

1139
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: to do. But the Lions have a history of unmet expectations.

1140
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,439
Speaker 1: They went oh sixteen in two thousand and eight. They've

1141
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: had high draft picks. Man, they drafted wide receivers like

1142
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: every year for a while. Yeah, it was just one

1143
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: after the other Calvin Johnson was awesome, Matthew Stafford was good,

1144
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 1: but they'd never had real success decades without a Super

1145
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: Bowl appearance. And shout out line fans for remaining a

1146
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: Lion fan because that had been tough.

1147
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 6: Oh and sixteen, that's brutal man. Yeah, I remember that season.

1148
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 7: Orlowski he didn't he get the safety going in the end,

1149
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 7: going backwards.

1150
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's like didn't even though he ran out,

1151
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: like ran all the way back and they came back in.

1152
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 4: Did you see her Lobsky at the Super Bowl walking

1153
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 4: around Radio Road. He's he's really tall, like really tall.

1154
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 4: You could see him towering over people. I'm like, wow,

1155
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 4: I had no idea is that tall.

1156
00:54:58,320 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 6: Orlovski he was with the Colts when he did that,

1157
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 6: right he was.

1158
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 4: I think it was the Lions.

1159
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 6: I think that maybe you're maybe you're right.

1160
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 1: All that bad yeah, all that bad play all blends together.

1161
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: I did not see Orlowski. But those guys are big.

1162
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: It's like even Matt Castle, he's like six four. I know,

1163
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: you don't even think of a guy being that big

1164
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 1: because he just looks average on screen, and they're they're giants. Okay,

1165
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: anybody raid any teams that are terrible that you feel

1166
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 1: bad for their fans.

1167
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 2: Hm.

1168
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 6: I just feel like I would hate to live in Wisconsin.

1169
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 6: So now we're going at the whole state. Yeah, we're

1170
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 6: just no reason, no reason.

1171
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 4: What's like pretty good?

1172
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,959
Speaker 6: Why would you hate Wisconsin? To be honest, I can't

1173
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 6: say that. I've never even been there, you know.

1174
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:40,240
Speaker 1: I just imagine it's super flat, a lot of corn cold.

1175
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 4: It's not flat, really, it's a little hilly, especially when

1176
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:45,720
Speaker 4: you get out in that milk country.

1177
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, have no response. I don't remember being flat or hilly.

1178
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: I know the people are super nice. There's a lot

1179
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: of cheese, and it's way cold, so anywhere cold. Not

1180
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: a fan of as far as like living there. But

1181
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: I feel like that was not very kind of you

1182
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: to pick on Wisconsin for no reason.

1183
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 4: It just that's what came to I picked on Oakland,

1184
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 4: so I apologize too. That's my bat.

1185
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 6: You've been to Oakland, haven't you?

1186
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 4: No? I never been.

1187
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 6: No, I've been Oakland.

1188
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 4: Been in San Francisco.

1189
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 6: Hey, I've been Oakland.

1190
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:08,720
Speaker 4: What's the lot over there?

1191
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 6: You know I'm a favorite, I'll be honest with you,

1192
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 6: not a favorite at all. Good luck everybody, we'll be

1193
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 6: back before the game start. But good luck everybody.

1194
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 4: Thank you.

1195
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 1: I guess if you're betting all on the playing games,

1196
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: good luck, then don't. Don't put all your money in

1197
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: the playing games, you know the first four? Yeah, all right,

1198
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: thank you guys, Eddie bulderwhistle.

1199
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 6: We're out here.

1200
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 4: Here we go, it's coming.

1201
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 6: Thank you guys. See later on.