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Speaker 1: spariable player, You're the national football like there it is,
Speaker 1: Tuck Daggers in where you're gonna win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: We call them the Salty Dogs. Hello again, bucking your fans,
Speaker 1: we are back. I'm Scott Smith and I am Jeff Ryan,
Speaker 1: and this is the Salty Dogs Podcast. And Jeff, we're
Speaker 1: gonna dispense with our usual fifteen minutes of incoherent rambling
Speaker 1: at the top because we've got to get right to
Speaker 1: the main thing, well us and we don't just want
Speaker 1: everybody to jump right to the middle. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: start immediately exactly. We're very excited. We're very excited to
Speaker 1: have the twelfth head coach and franchise history with us.
Speaker 1: Bruce arians Bruce Is, it's an absolute pleasure to have
Speaker 1: you on the show with us. Thank you, It's fantastic.
Speaker 1: Been looking forward to it. And where you'll be an
Speaker 1: honorary Salty Dog. Now I'm all for that, brother. How
Speaker 1: pumped are you to be back in the game. It's
Speaker 1: really hard to put in the words. You know, having
Speaker 1: been in broadcasting this year and going to games, how
Speaker 1: much you missed the locker room and the relationship with
Speaker 1: players and coaches and the arena and um, I mean
Speaker 1: it really got me fired back up and that I know,
Speaker 1: that's really what I want to do, and that's what
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be doing. You know, you do a
Speaker 1: lot of relationships has been big in your life. You
Speaker 1: have a relationship with Scott Smith. He probably does not,
Speaker 1: he doesn't remember. This is not the first time we've
Speaker 1: worked together. We were both with the Kind City Chiefs,
Speaker 1: Tony Dungee, the River Falls Days and Cheese League and
Speaker 1: all that. My son was a ball boy up there, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, with more money than I had. So so
Speaker 1: we went well when they hired me and ninety two,
Speaker 1: so then they decided to be good with Tony Dungee
Speaker 1: and ninety six and obviously that went well as well.
Speaker 1: So there you go. It's it's the six Ways to
Speaker 1: Scott Smith. Speaking of hires, we got to announce yesterday.
Speaker 1: I know you're putting your staff together quickly. But the
Speaker 1: one they've already announced his Todd Bowls. Can you tell
Speaker 1: Buck fans a little bit about what to expect from
Speaker 1: a Todd Bowls defense, attack, attack, And we're not sitting
Speaker 1: back at reading and reacted. We're going after people, um,
Speaker 1: playing man to man. We're gonna do what our players
Speaker 1: do best. That's what Todd does. He does a fantastic
Speaker 1: job of matching guys up to win in a game plan.
Speaker 1: And I've been around a lot of good teachers, but
Speaker 1: not none better than Todd. When you guys were together
Speaker 1: in thirteen and fourteen and went very well one defensively,
Speaker 1: would would I hear you have a very creative approach
Speaker 1: like he do? Yeah? Like I said, he's not gonna
Speaker 1: try to pound score pegs in around hole, you know,
Speaker 1: and say, this is our system. What can our guys do?
Speaker 1: What do our guys do best, we'll fit it around
Speaker 1: that same thing offensively. Is that the first part of
Speaker 1: the job, when you actually get through all this and
Speaker 1: you sit down, is evaluating all of our players. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's the biggest part. And uh, you know, trying
Speaker 1: to see who's available to improve. We want to improve
Speaker 1: every day and uh, we're never gonna stand still and
Speaker 1: stand pat um. So yeah, all our guys, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna have a large staff because we do a little
Speaker 1: something different when we practice. We have two practices going
Speaker 1: on at the same time in the spring, so how
Speaker 1: does it work to practice? So we have a large staff.
Speaker 1: So we'll have forty plays and in O T A
Speaker 1: s and one fields will be one group and one
Speaker 1: field will be the other. So no one stands around
Speaker 1: and watches. You can't find a diamond in the rush
Speaker 1: stand around watch. And we have found more undrafted free
Speaker 1: agents make our team because they're getting forty snaps on
Speaker 1: film every day. That's great. So that's how you maximize
Speaker 1: it because the NFL has all these rules now, the
Speaker 1: only so much time. That's awesome. Are you a big
Speaker 1: proponent of doing practices with another team? I love to
Speaker 1: if it's the right team because the one thing we
Speaker 1: never allow is fighting, because there's no place for fighting
Speaker 1: in a football in the football game. Um So, if
Speaker 1: it's another coach that I know and it's just gonna
Speaker 1: be hey, let's get better, not see who's tougher and
Speaker 1: all that crap man fighting, that's there's no place for
Speaker 1: that in football. Have you had a chance to You
Speaker 1: probably haven't a chance to even putting anything in your
Speaker 1: new office yet, have you Have you seen? No, I
Speaker 1: just dropped my brief. He's coming. He's coming. He's been
Speaker 1: over my shoulder from I find thirty years about close
Speaker 1: to forty now. I think it's fascinating that you work
Speaker 1: with Bear Bryant, and I got to believe that a
Speaker 1: lot of what you are as a coach came from him.
Speaker 1: Is that right? It really is? And uh, probably more
Speaker 1: so from Jimmy Sharpe, who was coach Bryant's offensive courtney
Speaker 1: for ten years and my head coach who got me
Speaker 1: coaching at Virginia Tech. You know, the last thing that
Speaker 1: it's always been my motto that Coach Bryant told me
Speaker 1: coach him hard and hug him later. So that's always
Speaker 1: the way we've done it. Has it changed with the players?
Speaker 1: And and you say, coach him hard, hug him later.
Speaker 1: You've been doing this for a while. Both Scott and
Speaker 1: I have been around players for a while. We notice
Speaker 1: the difference in players in because of social media things
Speaker 1: that nature. So how do you approach that. If it's
Speaker 1: not perfect, we're going to correct it. Don't take it
Speaker 1: as criticism. It's coaching, um, and a lot of times
Speaker 1: I'll do it really ugly, but I'll go find the
Speaker 1: guy and they look, it's nothing personal. This is we're
Speaker 1: just talking about football. This is what we need to do.
Speaker 1: We got to do this to get better and uh,
Speaker 1: you know so, yeah, that's that's the biggest part. And
Speaker 1: know that you truly care about them as a player,
Speaker 1: that I'm here to make you the best you can be.
Speaker 1: Have you had to adjust how you yea that they
Speaker 1: these younger guys learned totally different and uh there's more action.
Speaker 1: They can't sit still and watch the film or or
Speaker 1: look at a playbook. They need to be moving around.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you adjust your teaching ways. Speaking of a
Speaker 1: young player. Um, Jamis Winston is the quarterback here and
Speaker 1: I know you've had good things to say about him.
Speaker 1: Are you excited about? What do you think he can accomplish? Oh,
Speaker 1: there's no doubt. I think we have that we have
Speaker 1: the major piece of the puzzle. As a head coach,
Speaker 1: you're tied to the quarterback, and I think we can
Speaker 1: win a championship. There's no doubt about it. Well, being
Speaker 1: tied to the quarterback has worked well for you in
Speaker 1: your career. Obviously, help them work. And it's a different
Speaker 1: relationship the coach and you know, and even the play caller,
Speaker 1: which I won't be this time unless I need to be.
Speaker 1: But that relationship has to be built on solid trust.
Speaker 1: And don't tell me what you think I want to hear.
Speaker 1: Tell me what you saw out there and so that
Speaker 1: we can we can continually grow. When you say build
Speaker 1: around a quarterback, what does that act? I mean people
Speaker 1: around a quarterback. Quarterbacks are different and UM, find their strengths. Um,
Speaker 1: work on the weaknesses, but build on the strengths. Build
Speaker 1: those pieces of the football team around him offensively to
Speaker 1: what he does best. Uh. Some guys don't have great arms,
Speaker 1: but they have great anticipation, so you're passing game changes. UM.
Speaker 1: Some wait to see guys open because they got a cannon,
Speaker 1: you build it around him. Has that been a big
Speaker 1: part of your development as a coach through all these years,
Speaker 1: learning how to adapt to players. Yeah, I mean that.
Speaker 1: To me, that's coaching the guys that come in, Hey,
Speaker 1: this is our system, and look at the GM said,
Speaker 1: we don't have any players. That's really bad coaching. You
Speaker 1: do what they do, give him a chance to win.
Speaker 1: That's that's the job of a coach. You know. As
Speaker 1: a player, I've played in a drop back passing game.
Speaker 1: I wasn't very good. All of a sudden we ran
Speaker 1: into wishbone I was. I was a starting quarterback and
Speaker 1: uh so that do what your players do best. A
Speaker 1: guy that comes to mind along those lines is Chris Johnson,
Speaker 1: who had their in Arizona. For a little while. It
Speaker 1: seemed like maybe his career was coming to an end,
Speaker 1: but he had a real nice year there. Yeah. Man,
Speaker 1: he had a couple of great years and it got injured.
Speaker 1: But um, when we had David Johnson and Chris Johnson,
Speaker 1: two totally different unning backs. Chris was a wide zone guy,
Speaker 1: that's what we ran. David was more inside, get him
Speaker 1: outside on a toss, more of a receiver. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I just use build game plans around every guy. You got.
Speaker 1: There's there's a word it gets tossed around on every
Speaker 1: team and when there's changes in in an organization, and
Speaker 1: that word is culture. So to me, I have a
Speaker 1: theory what culture is. I would like to know what
Speaker 1: your theory is culture on a football team. It's very
Speaker 1: simple for me. There's three words, trust, loyalty and respect.
Speaker 1: When you when you understand what those words mean, um,
Speaker 1: then we don't need rules. You know, we don't have
Speaker 1: any rules. Uh, just those three words. We'll talk a
Speaker 1: lot about those words, um as we get going. And
Speaker 1: so yeah, that that everybody likes to use that word chemistry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what is To me? It's accountability. I got every decision
Speaker 1: I make affects you correct in our locker room. So
Speaker 1: that decision I make on or off the field has
Speaker 1: to be about the cause. And the causes the ring
Speaker 1: and it ain't getting to us, so both winning it.
Speaker 1: So every decision you make as a player on and
Speaker 1: off the field, what you put in your mouth nowadays
Speaker 1: because of all the nutritions and things that we have
Speaker 1: to make you better, those decisions all add up to winning.
Speaker 1: He talks about the ring and he has one. He
Speaker 1: has one on to make that. I know it's great.
Speaker 1: I know it's a podcast, but I'm still in this
Speaker 1: one in Tampa. I don't wear that was too big? Wow?
Speaker 1: What am It's too different? That's right. You have good
Speaker 1: memories of Tampa, yes, and in front of the pirate ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah awesome. So he has a coach for many years
Speaker 1: you you obviously because your coach, you've had to move
Speaker 1: a lot. And this will be the eighteen time. Do
Speaker 1: you know anything about this new area moving to Tampa.
Speaker 1: Actually used to recruit here when I was at Mississippi
Speaker 1: State Alabama back in the late seventies early eighties, and
Speaker 1: so we uh we ate it one of the famous steakhouses.
Speaker 1: I used to stay in the hotel right across the
Speaker 1: street from Jefferson High School. And yeah, we really had
Speaker 1: a couple of young men come to Mississippi State from Jefferson. So,
Speaker 1: so your wife's name is super Christie. I'm good another one.
Speaker 1: I'm giving somebody else another one. Hold on? So she excited?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah she was. She was floored by the
Speaker 1: reception yesterday. And obviously this facilitious bar not no none
Speaker 1: better and uh so yeah, just even though Arizona looked like,
Speaker 1: I mean, their stadium is really pretty cool. It she
Speaker 1: was never an Arizona. She's not a desert Uh but yes,
Speaker 1: so we we we have lived in Georgia to the
Speaker 1: lake for the last eleven years. But good for going
Speaker 1: back and forth. Yeah, I think I heard refer to
Speaker 1: that as forever. Did your year in broadcasting do anything
Speaker 1: for your analysis of the game. Yeah, I got to
Speaker 1: see so many practices in different ways. I'm not a
Speaker 1: music guy. The players are gonna have to talk me
Speaker 1: into this music, and uh I might give in. But
Speaker 1: everywhere I went and it was music. And even Coach Belichick,
Speaker 1: who's maybe headed the longest nobody ever knew it. I
Speaker 1: didn't know that, and uh so I said, Bill, really,
Speaker 1: He said, man, we've had this stuff on Fridays forever.
Speaker 1: So you're not gonna play. I'm gonna whip your ass.
Speaker 1: We have I have to find that recording. Okay, I liked.
Speaker 1: I liked It's very strong. That was Coach Sharp's, that
Speaker 1: was his the cap, the hat, okay, the theory behind it. Well,
Speaker 1: even as a kid, I wore one and once a
Speaker 1: ball cap or no, this type of this type of
Speaker 1: hat and Uh, I'm I'm from the streets of York.
Speaker 1: So uh. The as we got moving on and got
Speaker 1: the platform in Arizona, my wife has been a COSA
Speaker 1: quarter putt, a special advocate. She was early in her
Speaker 1: career a as she called it, broken family law attorney.
Speaker 1: And then I moved her after five bars and she said,
Speaker 1: I'm just volunteering, but I've watched her save these kids, UH,
Speaker 1: one at a time. So we started the foundation in
Speaker 1: Arizona and we created the hats and rehat sold all
Speaker 1: the all the proceeds go. We have t shirts with
Speaker 1: no risk at no biscuit and they came up with
Speaker 1: this great logo UM out there and we'll bring it
Speaker 1: here and every every dime goes straight to the foundation.
Speaker 1: And it's to help children who through no faults of
Speaker 1: their own or either in frostic care or need a
Speaker 1: need a kid's voice and uh and through the court system,
Speaker 1: and UH saying that actually talked a long time with
Speaker 1: Darcy last night and how we want to get it started.
Speaker 1: Here's already been u doing everything she can in in
Speaker 1: Hillsboro County already to to investigate it online. We're really
Speaker 1: looking forward to that. Yeah, we're looking forward to everything.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be fun. It's a pleasure we get you
Speaker 1: back again, brother. Yeah, yeah, I used to have black hair.
Speaker 1: That's why I did well. Thanks again, Coach the Salty Dogs,
Speaker 1: and we're back here on the Salty Dogs for our
Speaker 1: next segment. That was great. That's a highlight. Right. Well
Speaker 1: I can say is I sure hope people hang in
Speaker 1: there for the next segment because after that first question,
Speaker 1: I like, I don't know if he knew what you mean,
Speaker 1: be like, we gotta put this up front and everybody's
Speaker 1: gonna skip our part. Yeah. I I I figured as much.
Speaker 1: If you've got this go when you're probably washing the
Speaker 1: dishes or something and you just keep listening the rest
Speaker 1: now you listen, are the well the other side of
Speaker 1: the coin is you know your impression of him, that
Speaker 1: was my impression is the first time I actually shook
Speaker 1: hands with him and spoke with him, and I did
Speaker 1: that in the hallway and it was pretty cool. It
Speaker 1: was very relaxed. He's very relaxed. Yeah. It feels like
Speaker 1: it's going to be an easy work environment around here.
Speaker 1: When we say easy work environment, what we mean by
Speaker 1: that is, um, the coach. The coaches, they don't make
Speaker 1: obstacles to what you're trying to do, right, and that's
Speaker 1: not a bad thing. Coach has their own I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that in a negative way, but some coaches want
Speaker 1: certain things, or want certain times or or or don't
Speaker 1: necessarily want to do something. And therefore, if I go
Speaker 1: through all the coaches, Um, Richard Williamson was pretty easy.
Speaker 1: He was one year Sam was an entertainer, so he
Speaker 1: was really but this is before we did all this stuff. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well I was doing radio shows, that's true. So and
Speaker 1: then Tony Dungee was Well, what was great about Tony
Speaker 1: is everything was on time and um, if you asked
Speaker 1: the question, he would give you an answer, and I
Speaker 1: always enjoyed. Well, I mean that's not always. Sometimes you
Speaker 1: ask a question, they give you a fish yeah or no,
Speaker 1: they give you the stink I and go on, why
Speaker 1: are you asking me that question? So then then Groen
Speaker 1: and Grooden you know he's another entertainers. Yeah, but you
Speaker 1: know what's funny with John is he he was very
Speaker 1: consistent and he uh you know, he did a radio shop,
Speaker 1: talked about this and he was easy to work. People
Speaker 1: think otherwise, but it's not true. I mean, he wasn't
Speaker 1: excited about doing a radio show because he's a football guy.
Speaker 1: When he got there, he did it. When the light
Speaker 1: went on, he he gave you the time that was there.
Speaker 1: Uh was falling. Raheim was a lot of fun. Fun.
Speaker 1: Uh let's just get that one. I got nothing there. Um,
Speaker 1: love you, love you, love you. Business like. He was
Speaker 1: very business like. Um, exactly exactly. We should point out that,
Speaker 1: or at least from my point of view, I don't
Speaker 1: mean to put words in from out that we appreciate
Speaker 1: everything that all those coaches did with us. Yes, I
Speaker 1: mean sometimes you could tell they would rather be up,
Speaker 1: you know, eating film, but they still did it. And
Speaker 1: I want to and and you know, just recently, I
Speaker 1: want to say thank you to Dirk Cutter because, uh,
Speaker 1: Dirk would talk to us at the half and sometimes
Speaker 1: he would give us a nugget. Um, you know you're
Speaker 1: gonna do two quick questions you and you're usually gonna
Speaker 1: be pretty surface pretty surface level. But you're you're on
Speaker 1: a walk and when and you're walking, and I will
Speaker 1: say he gave us nuggets. He would he would you know,
Speaker 1: if something went wrong just before they went in, it'd be,
Speaker 1: oh boy, what are we going to get? Um. He
Speaker 1: was a guy that you needed to ask a question
Speaker 1: and it needed to be a good It had to
Speaker 1: be a good question. And he was also the less also,
Speaker 1: the less vague and the more football related, it was
Speaker 1: the better correct And he was really good after the game,
Speaker 1: let win, lose, or draw. He would talk to us
Speaker 1: after the game, and he would talk to us for
Speaker 1: you know, we not that we were breaking stories, but
Speaker 1: other media outlets would be quoting what we did. So
Speaker 1: we'd like, we'd like to wish him well going forward,
Speaker 1: but unfortunately two games in lantoffs of corners, we can't
Speaker 1: for sixteen weeks. But yeah, and I can't even route
Speaker 1: that hard. I mean, we have a lot of friends
Speaker 1: up there. Rich McKay's up there, and and you know,
Speaker 1: Dirk we got got to know and Raheim Raheem is there.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine Raheem and Dirk having a beer and
Speaker 1: talking about the Tampa days. I'd love to be a
Speaker 1: fly on the wall on that one. So back to
Speaker 1: our current head coach, Yes, like we said, um, that
Speaker 1: was the first time I met what you forgot something
Speaker 1: you're gonna ask? Yeah, what I wanted to ask him,
Speaker 1: if we're gonna do we call him coach? Do we
Speaker 1: call him be adn't find out let that happen organically? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I called him coach when he was in here. He
Speaker 1: didn't see the mind. No, I don't think he might know.
Speaker 1: Whatever you call, that's what you are, that's what he is.
Speaker 1: It's been his life in his passion. Did you watch
Speaker 1: that of football Life? I did. I recommend that to
Speaker 1: anybody that has not heard about it. I've seen it yet.
Speaker 1: You can find it on YouTube. It it's fantastic. All
Speaker 1: those of football lives are pretty good. I really I
Speaker 1: haven't seen a ton of them, but I watched all
Speaker 1: that one after we hired Bruce and it's so good,
Speaker 1: and it really tells you a lot about the guy.
Speaker 1: That's how we knew. That's how I knew that Bear
Speaker 1: Bryant was such a big deal. Damn. As an example,
Speaker 1: and Jimmy Sharp the other coach that he talked about, Um,
Speaker 1: so give that a look if you get a chance.
Speaker 1: But to get back to the main point that we
Speaker 1: started with here, it looks like it's going to be
Speaker 1: a good work environment around here. Yes, we'll see we'll see. Well,
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting because he says coach him hard and
Speaker 1: hug him later, So he's not afraid to chew a
Speaker 1: guy out. So I guess it's possible if I mess up,
Speaker 1: I could be coached hard and then hugged later. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not personal. It's just was what we need to
Speaker 1: do to get where we have to go. I like
Speaker 1: this thing. I liked. Uh. Um. You know, he talked
Speaker 1: about chemistry, whatever that is. I thought that was pretty good.
Speaker 1: I agree with him completely on that chemistry is an
Speaker 1: overrated word and it tends to be something you notice
Speaker 1: after your team is successful, and of course everybody's happy
Speaker 1: when your team successful, and it that seems like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's because there's such a great chemistry. There's something to that.
Speaker 1: There's there's obviously something to relationships. But chemistry is just
Speaker 1: such a broad word that people apply. So I liked
Speaker 1: his answer on that one, and I liked his answer
Speaker 1: on culture. Yeah, that was good. Um good. We talked
Speaker 1: briefly with him about Todd Bowles um, and I didn't
Speaker 1: think that this was the right avenue. He hasn't even
Speaker 1: really had his own introductory press conference yet. To get
Speaker 1: into the xs and ohs of Todd Bowles. So you know,
Speaker 1: we basically just wanted the the overarching answer, and he
Speaker 1: give us that. It's attacking defense. It's it's gonna be
Speaker 1: an aggressive defense man to man coverage. I like that.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of Buck fans would like to
Speaker 1: see our defense be more aggressive in general. So I
Speaker 1: think that's a good thing. But what's interesting about the
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles higher is that it could signal a change
Speaker 1: that has been changed to something that's been here for
Speaker 1: about twenty eight years now. Because if he goes to
Speaker 1: the three four like he's running his last two stops, uh,
Speaker 1: that is a big change for the Buckeers. I like
Speaker 1: the fact that he said he wasn't gonna go ahead
Speaker 1: and you know, take a square player and put it
Speaker 1: in a round hole. And I know we're talking. You know,
Speaker 1: it's all gonna be. People are gonna speculate who's here,
Speaker 1: who's not here. I'm not talking about any of that.
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about the philosophy that I have a
Speaker 1: game plan and Okay, you're my guy, but you don't
Speaker 1: really fit. But I'm gonna try to make it right.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't work. Yeah, That's why I brought up
Speaker 1: Chris Johnson because, um, he when he was in Arizona,
Speaker 1: Like I said, Chris, you remember Chris Johnson c J
Speaker 1: two care or whatever, when he was ripping it up
Speaker 1: for Tennessee and by the time you got to Arizona
Speaker 1: and was basically, you know, a backup. And then David
Speaker 1: Johnson got hurt. He had to be the guy. It
Speaker 1: seemed like his career pretty much on the down side.
Speaker 1: And then he did some really good things there and
Speaker 1: apparently he went to the coach and said, listen, I
Speaker 1: think this type of play, like coach like to run it.
Speaker 1: Bruce arians like to run it downhill up the middle,
Speaker 1: and and Chris Johnson is like, I think I can
Speaker 1: succeed with more stretch plays. I think we should run
Speaker 1: more stretch players. And Bruce listened to him and he
Speaker 1: did that and it worked and that's exactly what you're
Speaker 1: talking about. And he also made that comment like about
Speaker 1: quarterbacks listening to what works for them. How does this go? Um? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he's a coach. He's a football coach. Not
Speaker 1: not to say that there weren't other football coaches here,
Speaker 1: but he this is what he does he's got a
Speaker 1: game plan. He he got to be a head coach
Speaker 1: late in life. You know, that's right, And so did
Speaker 1: Dirk and and they both appreciated it. And I noticed
Speaker 1: the difference. There's a difference. Yeah, he definitely appreciates and
Speaker 1: and that's one thing you'll see if you watch that
Speaker 1: a football life thing is And that's why I didn't
Speaker 1: really bring it up specifically because of you know, it's
Speaker 1: it wasn't an original thought or anything, but uh, he
Speaker 1: according to what you're hearing that a football life documentary.
Speaker 1: One of the reasons it took a long time for
Speaker 1: him to get ahead job even though he was obviously
Speaker 1: having tons of success. He was he was a coordinator.
Speaker 1: I mean, a successful coordinator usually gets interviews you see that,
Speaker 1: and he wasn't getting them until after his interim head
Speaker 1: coaching stint with Indianapolis, and that went so well. Was because,
Speaker 1: as his family members would say, he's like, he's not
Speaker 1: going to tell you what you want to hear. He's
Speaker 1: he's not going to do the political answer. He's not
Speaker 1: going to say what the owner is expecting to hear.
Speaker 1: He's gonna say what he means. He's gonna do it
Speaker 1: his way, and so when he got now and when
Speaker 1: he got to be finally got that opportunity, it wasn't
Speaker 1: because he had given in and stopped doing it his way.
Speaker 1: So in the end, it speaks to what you were
Speaker 1: just saying, uh, getting the job later in life, but
Speaker 1: also getting the job without having to sacrifice what he
Speaker 1: believed in. And so I think that's part of the
Speaker 1: reason why he was a success as a head coach,
Speaker 1: and I think that's why he'll be a success here.
Speaker 1: And I think it's a great hire for that reason. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, you want a guy who knows exactly who
Speaker 1: he is and knows exactly how he wants to get
Speaker 1: it done, and then you want to get out of
Speaker 1: the get out of his way and let him do it.
Speaker 1: And that and I will say this with this organization,
Speaker 1: they've always let each head coach run. That's absolutely true.
Speaker 1: And that's the people on the outside will say differently,
Speaker 1: they'll think it's different, but having um been associated with
Speaker 1: the club for a number of years and then actually
Speaker 1: being inside, it's a different perspective when you're inside and um, yeah,
Speaker 1: here's here's the keys of the car. Go make it go. Now.
Speaker 1: I brought up Todd Bowles, and you didn't. We didn't
Speaker 1: stick to it very long. But if if we probably
Speaker 1: might fault if we switched to a three four. Most
Speaker 1: things that go wrong on this podcast or your fault
Speaker 1: if we switched to a three four. I hope I
Speaker 1: hit record. Of course the podcast wouldn't start at all
Speaker 1: if you weren't here, because I don't know which buttons
Speaker 1: to push on that thing over there. If the Buccaneers
Speaker 1: switched to a three ft Now, obviously every team runs
Speaker 1: some three four, some four three concert ups. There's you know,
Speaker 1: over and under fronts can look like four threes and
Speaker 1: three fours. We know that. But there are teams that
Speaker 1: are more of a base three four or four three.
Speaker 1: And the Bucks have not been a three four team
Speaker 1: since Richard Williams. The last year of Ray Perkins and
Speaker 1: then Richard Willinson took over, they switched to a for
Speaker 1: three and it's been that way ever since, and a
Speaker 1: lot of those years not just for three, but also
Speaker 1: a team that relies a lot on the cover two.
Speaker 1: Um changing to a three four defense. If that's what happens,
Speaker 1: and we don't know this is I think this is
Speaker 1: gonna be the one and more fascinating storylines of the offseason.
Speaker 1: What is the defense and and if it is more
Speaker 1: of a three four style defense, what players fit? Now?
Speaker 1: I know what we just said about square pegs, and
Speaker 1: they'll play to their strengths. But the fact is certain
Speaker 1: defensive style is gonna need certain types of players. If
Speaker 1: you're running a three four, really really running a three four,
Speaker 1: you're gonna need pass rushing outside linebackers. Uh do we
Speaker 1: have that? Is no expense one of those? Could this
Speaker 1: be a good thing for him? That kind of thing.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of questions. And Dona's if
Speaker 1: vita Va might be the perfect nose tackle on the
Speaker 1: three four, and that is one of the most underrated
Speaker 1: pieces of the three four all the great Pittsburgh defense
Speaker 1: has always had a great guy in the middle right there,
Speaker 1: and so, uh, it'll be it'll be fascinating. But also
Speaker 1: they're talking about the aggressive press man coverage on the outside.
Speaker 1: Is that that seems like it would be great for
Speaker 1: Carlton Davis. How good is that going to be for
Speaker 1: Vernon Hargraves. I think he's actually better in in in
Speaker 1: man coverage um than in zone, So I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be fascinating to see which players thrive if it
Speaker 1: becomes a different style of defense. Yeah, I've heard. I
Speaker 1: mean I was thinking. I think it was Dirk that
Speaker 1: that made a comment that there isn't a true three four.
Speaker 1: He said that a lot in the league anymore. It's there,
Speaker 1: but it's it's He would say that about a lot
Speaker 1: of teams. But then every now and then we'd play
Speaker 1: a team like Pittsburgh and go, now, this is a
Speaker 1: truth three four. And of course Pittsburgh has always been
Speaker 1: a true three four and they've been fantastic at it forever.
Speaker 1: And they always find pass rushing linebackers like the second
Speaker 1: third of like twenty pick in the draft, like a T. J.
Speaker 1: Wat They always find those guys. If you're listening to
Speaker 1: this before the games on the weekend. And when I
Speaker 1: say that, I hope the second round, second round playoffs,
Speaker 1: because watch the Indianapolis Colts game. Their defense is a
Speaker 1: variation of what Pittsburgh did. And they were really good
Speaker 1: against Baltimore, shutting it down. And it was an interesting
Speaker 1: thing he played in Houston. The Chargers shut down Baltimore.
Speaker 1: Oh maybe it was it was the Chargers that then,
Speaker 1: Now what the Chargers did. They were moving they it
Speaker 1: was the guy found that they played seven defensive backs
Speaker 1: for all but one snap of that game. They played
Speaker 1: safeties at linebacker, partially because all their linebackers are hurt.
Speaker 1: Like remember when all our linebackers got hurt and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, we're playing Andrew Adams is basically a
Speaker 1: safety and the slash linebacker. All the time, they played
Speaker 1: all safeties as linebackers, had seven linebackers on or seven
Speaker 1: defensive backs on the field, because they wanted to combat
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's running and they wanted maybe it still as
Speaker 1: the Colts to night and yeah, well they had a
Speaker 1: great game. They were moving. They were talking about whoever
Speaker 1: their defensive coordinator is, he's new so, uh what he
Speaker 1: he went back into tape and found some Steeler tape.
Speaker 1: I don't know, something like that. Hey, I think he
Speaker 1: got some head coaching sniffs and um, the way they
Speaker 1: were moving guys around on the front, I didn't see
Speaker 1: that game. Can't impress Well, okay, let me well, that's
Speaker 1: one of the great things watch all the games and
Speaker 1: in the show, and that's how you get out of
Speaker 1: this one. If they if they were really running a
Speaker 1: three four. That's one of the great things about it
Speaker 1: if you're if you've got a good three four scheme,
Speaker 1: is you can bring pressure from so many different ways.
Speaker 1: It's very it can be very difficult to figure out
Speaker 1: where the pressure is coming from. That's it was just
Speaker 1: all this movement and I was like, dang, look at that,
Speaker 1: and you know, so, um, you know there there there
Speaker 1: is some other news we should probably get to before. Well,
Speaker 1: Mike Evans is going to the Pro Bowl. Yes, I'm
Speaker 1: happy for Mike. Yeah, I mean I kind of thought
Speaker 1: he should would have happened because he was the first alternate,
Speaker 1: I mean the first the four that were voted in
Speaker 1: and were Davante Adams, Uh, Julio Jones, Adam DeLand, and
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas. Adam Theland and Michael Thomas had more catches
Speaker 1: and Julio Jones had more yards, and Davante Adams had
Speaker 1: more touchdowns. So there are reasons you could say those
Speaker 1: were all valid picks over Mike. But I think Mike's
Speaker 1: entire line was impressive enough that he should have been
Speaker 1: one of the first four. And it's hard saying who
Speaker 1: to knock out. Maybe dealon I don't know. They're all great.
Speaker 1: I'm glad they're all getting recognized. Um, theland sort of
Speaker 1: tailed off a little bit towards him of the year,
Speaker 1: but of course the voting isn't right at the end
Speaker 1: of the year. Uh. Anyway, Mike had d twenty two
Speaker 1: yards I think, uh, which is a team record. It
Speaker 1: was second in the conference. So you think that guy
Speaker 1: would be one of your two starters if he's second
Speaker 1: in the conference and receiving yards. Um, maybe it's because
Speaker 1: he didn't. He only had five touchdowns until he had
Speaker 1: three in the last two games. But he averaged seventeen
Speaker 1: point seven yards per catch, which is enormous number for
Speaker 1: guy that had eighty six catches. In fact, it's the
Speaker 1: third highest average any receivers ever had in a season
Speaker 1: where he had eighty five catches or more. That's amazing
Speaker 1: and it's a bit of a function of our offense.
Speaker 1: But nobody else did it. I mean, he's still Yes,
Speaker 1: we threw the ball downfield, but we had to have
Speaker 1: a guy who could make that work. Hey wait, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: That's one thing that Bruce arians likes to do. Yes,
Speaker 1: he like when he sees that he's got a shot,
Speaker 1: he'll take it like if you're playing single high safety,
Speaker 1: don't spot, or if he's single high safety is like, okay,
Speaker 1: let's send go routes on the outside. Uh. And you
Speaker 1: know how we know this is true because we were
Speaker 1: in Arizona in two thousand and seventeen and our defense
Speaker 1: was struggling with their communication, and boy did he take
Speaker 1: advantage of that. They would just lit us up down
Speaker 1: the field. It was demoralizing at the time, but now
Speaker 1: I'm now I'm having rosier memories of it because I
Speaker 1: can picture it in on the other side now for once,
Speaker 1: after our offense has been bad. You know, I'd love
Speaker 1: a game where you know, it's forty eight to nothing
Speaker 1: and we're ahead, you know you would, Yeah, kind of
Speaker 1: like the New Orleans game the beginning of the year.
Speaker 1: We were up, it's funny whatever, whatever. Then it got
Speaker 1: really harry at that. It doesn't matter, that's the key.
Speaker 1: Did you know? This is an interesting note and I'll
Speaker 1: credit one of our staff members here, Jason Turner, for
Speaker 1: finding this out that when New Orleans won the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl in the two thousand and eight lost against US. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you have heard that they lost again Carolina and
Speaker 1: they lost against the win thirteen and three with losses
Speaker 1: against the Bucks, Panthers, and Cowboys. And that's exactly what
Speaker 1: happened again this year. So that means they're gonna win
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, right, lightning strikes twice. I wouldn't. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't put it. I wouldn't bet against him. I would either.
Speaker 1: But I'm still, you know, the Rams. Still it's gonna
Speaker 1: be thrilling with it. I assumed that Saints and Rams
Speaker 1: are gonna win in and meet the NFC championship and
Speaker 1: just watch, just watch the Cowboys. They'll get hot, just
Speaker 1: you know, things like that. I really hated losing to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I had a chance to win that game.
Speaker 1: Who turnovers? See, I didn't think they were that good,
Speaker 1: good enough to beat us? But they but I didn't
Speaker 1: think and I didn't think they were going to be
Speaker 1: I thought the Gattle was to Seattle too. I would
Speaker 1: like to point out an amazing accomplishment I made this
Speaker 1: past way. How's your arm from patting myself on the back, Well,
Speaker 1: maybe you should let me finish before you said I
Speaker 1: was just with friends, not that as a gambling thing,
Speaker 1: just picking the games. I managed to pick all four
Speaker 1: games wrong. That's hard to do, man. Yeah, I had
Speaker 1: the uh, and I don't know why. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I picked the Ravens because I wanted the Chargers to win,
Speaker 1: and I thought they were gonna win when I started
Speaker 1: watching the game. But if I look back at I
Speaker 1: wanted written down and it was the Ravens. And so
Speaker 1: I picked Seattle. You just said you thought to Texans.
Speaker 1: I thought to Texas and that was a terrible pick
Speaker 1: because the Colts were hot. That was a bad, bad pick.
Speaker 1: Everybody one except Seattle. For me, that was the one
Speaker 1: I lost. I picked You picked the Chargers, and then
Speaker 1: what was the other one? Uh? The Colts? The Bears?
Speaker 1: You picked Philly? Come on, no, no, you said everybody? Okay,
Speaker 1: I so all four of them except two? Yeah? Could
Speaker 1: I forgot about if you just got an F? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Math was not myself, although it's probably great in for
Speaker 1: grading on a curve and it's only you and me
Speaker 1: in the class got an A plus. Well, let's see
Speaker 1: how many did you get? Right? I got zero percent
Speaker 1: of them? Right, all right? And I got two better
Speaker 1: than you are. You can't divide by zero, joke, you can,
Speaker 1: but you would get an A on the current in
Speaker 1: this day and age, you can do anything. Well. By
Speaker 1: the time everybody here's this that we have already had
Speaker 1: the press conference with Dirk, I'm sure that will be exciting.
Speaker 1: You know, I just said, Dirk, sorry, yes, we already have.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like when you It's like when a
Speaker 1: new year happens and you were still writing two thousand
Speaker 1: eighteen on your checks for a month. You want to
Speaker 1: hear a funny story, right, You want to hear a
Speaker 1: funny course you do is you talk about that training
Speaker 1: camp over in Orlando. The first chief remember those years,
Speaker 1: first year John Gruden's the head coach. The first interview
Speaker 1: I'm going to do with Jon Gruden. He's coming off
Speaker 1: the field right, we're live on the radio, already live,
Speaker 1: we are alive. And I said, okay, coaches coming up here.
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna get them real quick. And I
Speaker 1: dropped the microphone. So as I dropped the micro on purpose,
Speaker 1: not on purpose, I dropped it, and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh God. And so he walks up and I grabbed
Speaker 1: the microphone and I went into automatic mode and I
Speaker 1: rock up and I went so tony, and he goes,
Speaker 1: he looks at me. He looks at me. He says,
Speaker 1: he said, Tony did a lot of good things here.
Speaker 1: So I will always say that Jon Gruden was very,
Speaker 1: very great. Sious did he did? He hold that over
Speaker 1: you though? To bring it up? He just he just
Speaker 1: under he understood. But but I was like, are you
Speaker 1: kidding me? Yes, I live in fear of calling a
Speaker 1: player of the wrong name in the locker room, so
Speaker 1: I don't usually say anybody, hey, buddy, okay, are we good?
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're uh, we're gonna get question. Conference will
Speaker 1: be over. But otherwise I was just getting that, say
Speaker 1: what's coming up? We're gonna We're obviously gonna have a
Speaker 1: lot of head coach I mean assistant coach hires coming.
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna come together quickly. There's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of them though, because as you heard Bruce say,
Speaker 1: he has a big staff. I can't wait to see
Speaker 1: that the two. That's a bit of will we will
Speaker 1: reset the table on that he talks about no one
Speaker 1: stands around. He has enough coaches he does to practices
Speaker 1: the same things. It's brilliant. I hadn't even thought of
Speaker 1: that idea. But you're right in and fans who don't
Speaker 1: get to see a ton of practices. Should understand that
Speaker 1: it is true that there are usually a lot of
Speaker 1: players standing around when your first team offense is out there.
Speaker 1: The backups are just standing there and vice versa. So
Speaker 1: that is a way to maximize what you're doing, isn't it.
Speaker 1: But you have to have a lot of coaches. Gotta
Speaker 1: have a lot of coaches. And that's the reason why,
Speaker 1: because we have noticed he had a really big coaching
Speaker 1: staff in Arizona, but weren't sure exactly why. And that
Speaker 1: and that'll be great for the fans during training camp
Speaker 1: because no matter what, there's no downtime. Good thing. We
Speaker 1: have a big building here with lots of officers, I know,
Speaker 1: not enough knocking down some way, maybe moving down when
Speaker 1: they came, I didn't say anything when they came for
Speaker 1: Jeff Ryan's office and then they came for my office.
Speaker 1: They're gonna come for years. First Years is closer to football,
Speaker 1: but it's really secluded back there in the corner by
Speaker 1: the but they're gonna take that whole gated community out
Speaker 1: Scott's and Scott's is such a fancy place here at
Speaker 1: the Adventure Health Training Center. At the Health is one word. Yes,
Speaker 1: um he is. He's so special. He's in a gated
Speaker 1: community and we call it that because you cannot get
Speaker 1: in unless you use your key card. There's only one
Speaker 1: other office that has a key card to get into.
Speaker 1: You know whose office that is? Well, well on the
Speaker 1: business side, on the business side, who owners. Oh, I
Speaker 1: like where you're going with this? Yeah? Like it? Um
Speaker 1: so yours is going. The real reason is because I'm
Speaker 1: right across from the server room. Yeah, they and they
Speaker 1: got locked up, but it sounded good. The great thing
Speaker 1: about being right by the I T guys is when
Speaker 1: something like the internet goes up, down or something, you
Speaker 1: don't have to call. You just say hey, guys, and yes,
Speaker 1: people have already told turn it off, turn it back on.
Speaker 1: That's always the first step. All right, let's get two
Speaker 1: questions and wrap it up. Huh, I've got two of them.
Speaker 1: One of them you're going to recognize who it's from. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's our friend Rusty Rusty Cheney, who is a retired nurse,
Speaker 1: Happy Year and likes to listen to our show. She
Speaker 1: says that a lot. She's very complimentary. The other one
Speaker 1: is a new from a new person. Okay, you can
Speaker 1: tell from this that she sent it before the coaching higher.
Speaker 1: It was a couple of days ago. There's by the way,
Speaker 1: there's a picture of a donut on the top and
Speaker 1: picture of coffee on the bottom, so she was probably
Speaker 1: sitting this during breakfast. Happy New Year, Jeff and Scott.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Happy New Year, Rusty. I hope you both
Speaker 1: had a fun and RESTful holiday break. I would say fun,
Speaker 1: not RESTful, but but you were missed. I guess it's true.
Speaker 1: We have to admit we didn't. We didn't do a
Speaker 1: podcast the last couple of weeks just because of all
Speaker 1: the stuff that was going on. But you know, when
Speaker 1: you listen to this one, now you know why we didn't.
Speaker 1: We were saving it. Yes, and you're really gonna like
Speaker 1: this next partum because you're gonna feel justified. Alex Smith
Speaker 1: was an enjoyable guest on the last show, and Jeff
Speaker 1: really took me down memory lane with his referral to
Speaker 1: Smith Brothers. Cough drops. Jeff, I'm sorry, yeah, pay attention.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, but this is business. She she
Speaker 1: she took her down memory lane with her with the
Speaker 1: Smith Brothers drops, which I laughed at. That was the
Speaker 1: best part of having a cold when I was a kid.
Speaker 1: I've never heard of this, But you touched the nerve,
Speaker 1: have you not? Have you never had a Smith Brothers?
Speaker 1: Its halls? Everybody just has halls. No Smith Brothers. We
Speaker 1: need to find out if they still exist and get
Speaker 1: them to be a sponsor for this show. The Smith Brothers,
Speaker 1: two guys, the Salty Dogs, two guys with big long beer.
Speaker 1: My name is Smith. You've got a beard. I like it? Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: our last game was this is Her again. Our last
Speaker 1: game was another heartbreaker, and now the search is on
Speaker 1: for a new head coach. You'll probably have already announced
Speaker 1: who that is by the time you do the podcast.
Speaker 1: That's true. As a true fan, I will break good.
Speaker 1: I will embrace whoever we get and wish for more
Speaker 1: success for him and his staff. Who decides what coaches
Speaker 1: assistance from last season stay on? Is it's only the
Speaker 1: head coach decides? Or do the Glazers or Jason Light
Speaker 1: say we want to keep Prince and Buckner or Mark
Speaker 1: Dufner for example, in some capacity. And I think at
Speaker 1: least in this case, it's it's a coach. Bruce gets
Speaker 1: to decide his staff, and I think that's something that
Speaker 1: UM this ownership group has done. They've had coaches under
Speaker 1: contract where they are owed money whether they work or not,
Speaker 1: and because of a new head coach wanting to make changes,
Speaker 1: they have paid the contract out. Well that's what Jason
Speaker 1: Light said at the end of the season. He's like, UM, coach,
Speaker 1: whatever coach we hire will get an opportunity if he
Speaker 1: wants to to keep any of the staff, But we
Speaker 1: are also going to let those people interview elsewhere if
Speaker 1: they didn't. Didn't Brinson Buckner go to Oakland? I think?
Speaker 1: I think so in any case, UM, and he out
Speaker 1: of all of our coach he was the one you
Speaker 1: would think, yes, because he was the only one under contract. Well,
Speaker 1: also he worked with Bruce Yes in Arizona. Yes, because
Speaker 1: everybody else, everybody else their contracts were ended, they were
Speaker 1: in an option year or so. That is one of
Speaker 1: those that's that's maybe I'm wrong about that Oakland thing,
Speaker 1: but I thought he went to Oakland. It's a tough life, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's definitely a nomadic life. Has been in radio. How
Speaker 1: radio was along these lines. If you again, I referenced
Speaker 1: that UM a football Life documentary. If you watch that,
Speaker 1: you'll see there's a point where he got an interview
Speaker 1: with Indianapolis after the two I mean with Chicago after
Speaker 1: the two thousand twelve season when he won Coach of
Speaker 1: the Year and who knows, you know, we only hear
Speaker 1: one side of it, but his his kids. I think
Speaker 1: we're saying that he didn't get that job because he
Speaker 1: was insisting that he had to bring Todd bowls in
Speaker 1: Chicago didn't want to switch to A three four. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were running a Tampa too, And then Arizona was
Speaker 1: the year you love he got fired, that's right, and
Speaker 1: then Arizona, Um, well, I love he set out for
Speaker 1: a year before. Okay, I'm sorry. Arizona was fine with that.
Speaker 1: And so that's why he took that job in Arizona,
Speaker 1: because they said yes to who he wanted to hire.
Speaker 1: I I get that. If you're going in, I mean
Speaker 1: it's like any business you go in, you look around.
Speaker 1: If you're a new manager, you're looking to see who
Speaker 1: who's there, who's not square, a whole round hole, that
Speaker 1: type of thing. Um. I think that. I think that, Um,
Speaker 1: I think we will have a completely new Yeah. So
Speaker 1: the answer to your question, Rusty is it's it's Bruce
Speaker 1: arians who will get to choose. And these guys that
Speaker 1: have been in the league for a long time, they
Speaker 1: all have a network of guys so they can make
Speaker 1: phone calls quickly and find out who's interested, who's available,
Speaker 1: and they know the system. And that's what has to
Speaker 1: happen that coaches have to teach it to the players,
Speaker 1: right And so anybody you've got that's already worked with
Speaker 1: Bruce and we've heard something, we haven't announced anything that
Speaker 1: bowls yet, so we're not gonna name any names. And
Speaker 1: we've certainly heard some and a lot of them have
Speaker 1: connections to him in the past. And people sometimes have
Speaker 1: to understand the reason why we you and I cannot
Speaker 1: name names. If we say a name, it's like we're
Speaker 1: announcing it. We are because we officially worked for the team,
Speaker 1: so a buck spokesperson, you know, So we can't even
Speaker 1: though we've all heard the same names too. It's hard. Okay.
Speaker 1: She finishes by saying, hopefully you all will decide to
Speaker 1: continue the show in the off season. We've talked about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: sometimes just every week. Yeah, I think it's going to
Speaker 1: be for special occasions, I mean it, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: if if Todd Boyles come maybe you know, it would
Speaker 1: be great to get him more something like that, just
Speaker 1: to introduce him to to Buck fans. She says, I
Speaker 1: read your news every day, Scott, and enjoyed Carmen's columns
Speaker 1: and Casey shows with you and Alian Donovan. But there's
Speaker 1: nobody doing what you and Jeff do on the podcast,
Speaker 1: splending current news with the memories. Thank you, Rusty, Thank
Speaker 1: you Rusty. She keeps finding new ways to say nice
Speaker 1: things to us. She wasn't she She was a nurse
Speaker 1: and nurse you well, so she has a people right
Speaker 1: bedsized bedside manner. All right, um, Scott and Jeff for
Speaker 1: this is the next question. We only have two today
Speaker 1: because we haven't. I don't think people thought knew were
Speaker 1: for having a show, so I'm actually kind of surprised
Speaker 1: we even have these two. This one apparently was just
Speaker 1: britten yesterday or today, first time I've written in, he says,
Speaker 1: but I'm just really excited by the Bruce arians hire.
Speaker 1: Earlier today, I heard Scott and okay, so he he
Speaker 1: wrote this on Tuesday. Then, okay, what today is it? Today?
Speaker 1: Today's Thursday? Okay, so he wrote this on Wednesday. This
Speaker 1: guy's name is Mark and he lives in Brandon. Apparently, uh,
Speaker 1: because that's when Casey now we're doing our inside lives.
Speaker 1: Earlier today I heard Scott and Casey talking about how
Speaker 1: it seemed like all the reaction and they had seen
Speaker 1: to the Bruce arians hire was positive. That's probably not
Speaker 1: completely true. I'm sure there's somebody out there was hoping
Speaker 1: for Chris Roe Shard or that Casey coordinator. He says,
Speaker 1: I don't want to look up how to spell his name,
Speaker 1: Eric the Enemy. Um. I always liked his um the
Speaker 1: nickname um Eric Sleeping with the enemy, Sleeping with the enemy,
Speaker 1: Chris Berman. But I agree that everybody, But I agree
Speaker 1: that everybody I've talked to about it feels the same way,
Speaker 1: he says, positively, but and and anestally. Actually, it is
Speaker 1: true in that I said I hadn't seen any negative reaction.
Speaker 1: Everything I've seen was positive, and that's true. I the
Speaker 1: only things I've seen are positive. I agree there's somebody
Speaker 1: out there who's not gonna like can't wait. Um. So
Speaker 1: my question is, how does this reaction compared to what's
Speaker 1: been like over other head coach hires, like how Pump
Speaker 1: were people's first, say Greg Siano, or Rahey Morris. I've
Speaker 1: been a Bucks fan since the mid two thousand's missed
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl then, and I really don't remember how
Speaker 1: the other hires were received. Thanks in advance if you
Speaker 1: get to my question mark, I think I think it's
Speaker 1: interesting that most I would say all the hires were received, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean that's I mean, it's the time of optimism, right.
Speaker 1: It's like how everybody thinks they're going to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: And when you looked at Raheem, he was a young guy.
Speaker 1: He was at that time. Uh you know, but you
Speaker 1: gotta put it all together there because that was a
Speaker 1: a surprise firing of John Gruden and me hiring of Raheem,
Speaker 1: And there were certainly some people who didn't think John
Speaker 1: should go, So that wasn't completely positive matter how people
Speaker 1: felt about Rahem, but he was he was considering an
Speaker 1: up and comer, Greg Schiano was. They weren't sure it
Speaker 1: was going to be interesting in a college coach coming in.
Speaker 1: Then um, then we all know where that went. And then,
Speaker 1: love you, everybody was excelled pretty positive because it felt
Speaker 1: like a call back to back to the future. I
Speaker 1: think people felt pretty good about that one but I
Speaker 1: don't think it was as as over the top as
Speaker 1: this one. Uh we missed one in there, didn't Dar Dirk.
Speaker 1: Certainly Dirk Dirk was a you're not gonna get when
Speaker 1: you hire from within, you're not gonna get the same pot. No, no,
Speaker 1: but I think what the buzz there was because of
Speaker 1: his relationship with Jamis and everyone was very excited about that.
Speaker 1: I remember at the time, I was hoping we would
Speaker 1: hire Dirk, and I was glad when we did, because
Speaker 1: they did do a little searching at that point and
Speaker 1: they and and in fairness, he you know he did.
Speaker 1: He did get nine wins in the first year, and
Speaker 1: you thought, what a great building block. I can tell
Speaker 1: you the difference between two thousand and sixteen when he
Speaker 1: went nine and seven, six and eight, six and two
Speaker 1: down the stretch and the next two years three and
Speaker 1: oh in in three point games in two thousand and sixteen,
Speaker 1: two and eight in the next two years. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that is that. That was it. We just couldn't win.
Speaker 1: And you can you can check that however you want.
Speaker 1: You could say bad luck, or you can say the
Speaker 1: Bucks didn't figure out how to win those games, and
Speaker 1: that's fair and that's what that's what in and and
Speaker 1: he said he knew that its results business. And in
Speaker 1: the end that's what happened there. Every year when it's
Speaker 1: over with, when when it's when the season ends and
Speaker 1: there's changes, you know, what else do you have? But
Speaker 1: hope you're expecting change. You're getting change. Everybody's going to
Speaker 1: debate whether this is good bad, and you won't know
Speaker 1: until next year at this time, and then you're gonna go, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what year one. Now. If it's good, you go, oh, great,
Speaker 1: building box. If it's not, you go, well, it's the
Speaker 1: first year, you know, got yeah, I gotta learn that
Speaker 1: in God willing in the creek, don't rise. You and
Speaker 1: I are still doing this, and we'll let you know
Speaker 1: how good if we still have offices, right, yeah, you
Speaker 1: know it's I'll work out of the truck. It's a
Speaker 1: four year contract for Bruce with a fifth year option,
Speaker 1: so five years will be wonderful. I know people think
Speaker 1: that because Bruce was hired at the age of sixty six,
Speaker 1: that that might be the only five years, which is possible.
Speaker 1: But even if that's true, that's fine. If you right
Speaker 1: this ship and have five years here I'll be happy
Speaker 1: with that if you if you look, Tony Dungee was
Speaker 1: here six years, John Green was here seven that's it
Speaker 1: because it's it's what have you done if you win
Speaker 1: a super Bowl? A perfect example, the only club and
Speaker 1: Green Bay. If you look at Green Bay, McCarthy was
Speaker 1: their thirteen years. He won his super Bowl early. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so he still had some and and and they were
Speaker 1: generally successful. Yeah, and they they kept going to the
Speaker 1: playoffs if you keep going. But but in Tony's case,
Speaker 1: he kept going to the playoffs for whatever reason, didn't
Speaker 1: get over the hump. So um in in that aspect,
Speaker 1: I think that you know, tomorrow is not promised to anybody.
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is, even if it is only
Speaker 1: five years, I still don't think that's a problem in
Speaker 1: terms of hiring and and and if he's sixty six,
Speaker 1: his energy level is totally there. And I know that
Speaker 1: he didn't all fishes before, but he didn't look sixty
Speaker 1: six to me. No, I hope I'm sixty. He's uh.
Speaker 1: Certainly has a grasp on social media, certainly has a
Speaker 1: grasp on the new players. I liked his answer about um,
Speaker 1: you know, learning how they learned differently, and so there's
Speaker 1: a guy that that is making adjustments. And and if
Speaker 1: you're if you're, if you're out of it, you're not
Speaker 1: making those adjustments. So I think that's good. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: this is exciting. Yeah, even if nobody's even if it's
Speaker 1: just me talking to you at this point, what everybody
Speaker 1: got all is awesome talking to Bruce. It really was,
Speaker 1: it is. I'm very excited. He came off exactly as
Speaker 1: he appears, is public persona, appears, no BS and that man,
Speaker 1: he's gonna know B S and B Alright, Jeff, al right,
Speaker 1: take us out, alright, since you did, Thanks for listening.