WEBVTT - Salty Dogs Podcast with Bruce Arians 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:03.000 What do you call two guys that were there when 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:06.040 this happened? Back to return at Spurlock, Michael Spurlock at 0:00:06.040 --> 0:00:08.000 the chain and he's still the twenty he's the twenty 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:12.600 five thirty top bart of Yarline history, fifty forty, the 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:15.960 thirty yards Lock, Michael Rock, Michael Rock, Michael Rod. Just 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:20.520 stop tap, here you go and that sixty two yard 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:28.840 for your goal attempts its God, God, God, God box 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:34.600 the Eagles, who can forget again, I'm looking at those already. 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:38.440 Derek Bucks, direty touchdown, tamp a day, Derek Books, bub 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:42.240 spariable player, You're the national football like there it is, 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:45.240 Tuck Daggers in where you're gonna win the Super Bowl. 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:49.960 We call them the Salty Dogs. Hello again, bucking your fans, 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:52.680 we are back. I'm Scott Smith and I am Jeff Ryan, 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:55.040 and this is the Salty Dogs Podcast. And Jeff, we're 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:57.680 gonna dispense with our usual fifteen minutes of incoherent rambling 0:00:57.680 --> 0:00:59.200 at the top because we've got to get right to 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:01.160 the main thing, well us and we don't just want 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:03.360 everybody to jump right to the middle. So we're gonna 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:06.640 start immediately exactly. We're very excited. We're very excited to 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:09.000 have the twelfth head coach and franchise history with us. 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:11.800 Bruce arians Bruce Is, it's an absolute pleasure to have 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:13.479 you on the show with us. Thank you, It's fantastic. 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:15.520 Been looking forward to it. And where you'll be an 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:20.000 honorary Salty Dog. Now I'm all for that, brother. How 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:22.880 pumped are you to be back in the game. It's 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:26.119 really hard to put in the words. You know, having 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:29.200 been in broadcasting this year and going to games, how 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:32.480 much you missed the locker room and the relationship with 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:36.800 players and coaches and the arena and um, I mean 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:40.480 it really got me fired back up and that I know, 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:42.000 that's really what I want to do, and that's what 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:44.320 I'm supposed to be doing. You know, you do a 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:48.840 lot of relationships has been big in your life. You 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:52.320 have a relationship with Scott Smith. He probably does not, 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.320 he doesn't remember. This is not the first time we've 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:56.720 worked together. We were both with the Kind City Chiefs, 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:02.080 Tony Dungee, the River Falls Days and Cheese League and 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:05.320 all that. My son was a ball boy up there, right, Yeah, 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:07.880 so yeah, with more money than I had. So so 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:09.639 we went well when they hired me and ninety two, 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:11.880 so then they decided to be good with Tony Dungee 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:13.960 and ninety six and obviously that went well as well. 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:16.600 So there you go. It's it's the six Ways to 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:21.240 Scott Smith. Speaking of hires, we got to announce yesterday. 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:23.360 I know you're putting your staff together quickly. But the 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:25.880 one they've already announced his Todd Bowls. Can you tell 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:27.560 Buck fans a little bit about what to expect from 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:31.160 a Todd Bowls defense, attack, attack, And we're not sitting 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:34.720 back at reading and reacted. We're going after people, um, 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:37.120 playing man to man. We're gonna do what our players 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:40.239 do best. That's what Todd does. He does a fantastic 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:43.680 job of matching guys up to win in a game plan. 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:46.840 And I've been around a lot of good teachers, but 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:49.400 not none better than Todd. When you guys were together 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:51.840 in thirteen and fourteen and went very well one defensively, 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:54.360 would would I hear you have a very creative approach 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:56.640 like he do? Yeah? Like I said, he's not gonna 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:59.440 try to pound score pegs in around hole, you know, 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:02.720 and say, this is our system. What can our guys do? 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:05.280 What do our guys do best, we'll fit it around 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:07.400 that same thing offensively. Is that the first part of 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:08.840 the job, when you actually get through all this and 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:11.280 you sit down, is evaluating all of our players. Oh yeah, 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:13.800 that's that's the biggest part. And uh, you know, trying 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:16.480 to see who's available to improve. We want to improve 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:19.919 every day and uh, we're never gonna stand still and 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:23.240 stand pat um. So yeah, all our guys, and we're 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:25.880 gonna have a large staff because we do a little 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:28.280 something different when we practice. We have two practices going 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:30.720 on at the same time in the spring, so how 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:32.919 does it work to practice? So we have a large staff. 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:35.800 So we'll have forty plays and in O T A 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:38.040 s and one fields will be one group and one 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:39.960 field will be the other. So no one stands around 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:42.280 and watches. You can't find a diamond in the rush 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:46.160 stand around watch. And we have found more undrafted free 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:49.000 agents make our team because they're getting forty snaps on 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:51.880 film every day. That's great. So that's how you maximize 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:53.760 it because the NFL has all these rules now, the 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:56.920 only so much time. That's awesome. Are you a big 0:03:56.920 --> 0:04:00.880 proponent of doing practices with another team? I love to 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:03.840 if it's the right team because the one thing we 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:06.320 never allow is fighting, because there's no place for fighting 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:09.560 in a football in the football game. Um So, if 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:12.160 it's another coach that I know and it's just gonna 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:15.280 be hey, let's get better, not see who's tougher and 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:17.760 all that crap man fighting, that's there's no place for 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:19.640 that in football. Have you had a chance to You 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:21.640 probably haven't a chance to even putting anything in your 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:23.400 new office yet, have you Have you seen? No, I 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:28.760 just dropped my brief. He's coming. He's coming. He's been 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:32.040 over my shoulder from I find thirty years about close 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:34.120 to forty now. I think it's fascinating that you work 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:36.200 with Bear Bryant, and I got to believe that a 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:38.120 lot of what you are as a coach came from him. 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:40.960 Is that right? It really is? And uh, probably more 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:43.800 so from Jimmy Sharpe, who was coach Bryant's offensive courtney 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:46.200 for ten years and my head coach who got me 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:49.599 coaching at Virginia Tech. You know, the last thing that 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.400 it's always been my motto that Coach Bryant told me 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:56.839 coach him hard and hug him later. So that's always 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:59.800 the way we've done it. Has it changed with the players? 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:01.800 And and you say, coach him hard, hug him later. 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:04.760 You've been doing this for a while. Both Scott and 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:07.520 I have been around players for a while. We notice 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:12.159 the difference in players in because of social media things 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:15.080 that nature. So how do you approach that. If it's 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:18.000 not perfect, we're going to correct it. Don't take it 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:22.120 as criticism. It's coaching, um, and a lot of times 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.479 I'll do it really ugly, but I'll go find the 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:26.960 guy and they look, it's nothing personal. This is we're 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:29.200 just talking about football. This is what we need to do. 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:31.479 We got to do this to get better and uh, 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.120 you know so, yeah, that's that's the biggest part. And 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:36.440 know that you truly care about them as a player, 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:38.359 that I'm here to make you the best you can be. 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:41.839 Have you had to adjust how you yea that they 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:47.279 these younger guys learned totally different and uh there's more action. 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:51.560 They can't sit still and watch the film or or 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.320 look at a playbook. They need to be moving around. 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.039 So yeah, you adjust your teaching ways. Speaking of a 0:05:57.080 --> 0:06:00.120 young player. Um, Jamis Winston is the quarterback here and 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:01.840 I know you've had good things to say about him. 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:03.920 Are you excited about? What do you think he can accomplish? Oh, 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:05.680 there's no doubt. I think we have that we have 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:08.280 the major piece of the puzzle. As a head coach, 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:10.720 you're tied to the quarterback, and I think we can 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:13.400 win a championship. There's no doubt about it. Well, being 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:15.000 tied to the quarterback has worked well for you in 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.520 your career. Obviously, help them work. And it's a different 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:21.679 relationship the coach and you know, and even the play caller, 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:24.520 which I won't be this time unless I need to be. 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:28.480 But that relationship has to be built on solid trust. 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:31.280 And don't tell me what you think I want to hear. 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:34.039 Tell me what you saw out there and so that 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:37.359 we can we can continually grow. When you say build 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:39.960 around a quarterback, what does that act? I mean people 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:45.960 around a quarterback. Quarterbacks are different and UM, find their strengths. Um, 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:49.039 work on the weaknesses, but build on the strengths. Build 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:52.440 those pieces of the football team around him offensively to 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:55.880 what he does best. Uh. Some guys don't have great arms, 0:06:55.920 --> 0:07:00.000 but they have great anticipation, so you're passing game changes. UM. 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:02.640 Some wait to see guys open because they got a cannon, 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:06.039 you build it around him. Has that been a big 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:09.720 part of your development as a coach through all these years, 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:12.560 learning how to adapt to players. Yeah, I mean that. 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:15.320 To me, that's coaching the guys that come in, Hey, 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:17.600 this is our system, and look at the GM said, 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:21.080 we don't have any players. That's really bad coaching. You 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:24.520 do what they do, give him a chance to win. 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.520 That's that's the job of a coach. You know. As 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:29.560 a player, I've played in a drop back passing game. 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:31.720 I wasn't very good. All of a sudden we ran 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:34.120 into wishbone I was. I was a starting quarterback and 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:37.800 uh so that do what your players do best. A 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.000 guy that comes to mind along those lines is Chris Johnson, 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:42.040 who had their in Arizona. For a little while. It 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:43.800 seemed like maybe his career was coming to an end, 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.120 but he had a real nice year there. Yeah. Man, 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:48.040 he had a couple of great years and it got injured. 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:51.240 But um, when we had David Johnson and Chris Johnson, 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:54.360 two totally different unning backs. Chris was a wide zone guy, 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:57.840 that's what we ran. David was more inside, get him 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:00.760 outside on a toss, more of a receiver. So yeah, 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:02.920 I just use build game plans around every guy. You got. 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:06.040 There's there's a word it gets tossed around on every 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:09.640 team and when there's changes in in an organization, and 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:14.240 that word is culture. So to me, I have a 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:16.240 theory what culture is. I would like to know what 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:20.400 your theory is culture on a football team. It's very 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:23.720 simple for me. There's three words, trust, loyalty and respect. 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:28.080 When you when you understand what those words mean, um, 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:30.840 then we don't need rules. You know, we don't have 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:34.760 any rules. Uh, just those three words. We'll talk a 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.920 lot about those words, um as we get going. And 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:43.440 so yeah, that that everybody likes to use that word chemistry. Yeah, 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:47.760 what is To me? It's accountability. I got every decision 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:51.040 I make affects you correct in our locker room. So 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:54.360 that decision I make on or off the field has 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:56.439 to be about the cause. And the causes the ring 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:58.960 and it ain't getting to us, so both winning it. 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:01.680 So every decision you make as a player on and 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:04.120 off the field, what you put in your mouth nowadays 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:07.360 because of all the nutritions and things that we have 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:11.520 to make you better, those decisions all add up to winning. 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:13.360 He talks about the ring and he has one. He 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:15.640 has one on to make that. I know it's great. 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:17.440 I know it's a podcast, but I'm still in this 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:21.520 one in Tampa. I don't wear that was too big? Wow? 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:26.559 What am It's too different? That's right. You have good 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:30.440 memories of Tampa, yes, and in front of the pirate ship. 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:33.280 Yeah awesome. So he has a coach for many years 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:35.800 you you obviously because your coach, you've had to move 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:38.520 a lot. And this will be the eighteen time. Do 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.040 you know anything about this new area moving to Tampa. 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:43.760 Actually used to recruit here when I was at Mississippi 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:46.800 State Alabama back in the late seventies early eighties, and 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:50.880 so we uh we ate it one of the famous steakhouses. 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:52.400 I used to stay in the hotel right across the 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:54.760 street from Jefferson High School. And yeah, we really had 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.840 a couple of young men come to Mississippi State from Jefferson. So, 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:02.200 so your wife's name is super Christie. I'm good another one. 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:07.160 I'm giving somebody else another one. Hold on? So she excited? 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:10.520 Oh yeah, yeah she was. She was floored by the 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:14.720 reception yesterday. And obviously this facilitious bar not no none 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:18.480 better and uh so yeah, just even though Arizona looked like, 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:22.200 I mean, their stadium is really pretty cool. It she 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:26.679 was never an Arizona. She's not a desert Uh but yes, 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:29.319 so we we we have lived in Georgia to the 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:31.840 lake for the last eleven years. But good for going 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:34.080 back and forth. Yeah, I think I heard refer to 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:39.600 that as forever. Did your year in broadcasting do anything 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:42.240 for your analysis of the game. Yeah, I got to 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.880 see so many practices in different ways. I'm not a 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:46.960 music guy. The players are gonna have to talk me 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:50.719 into this music, and uh I might give in. But 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:55.800 everywhere I went and it was music. And even Coach Belichick, 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:57.839 who's maybe headed the longest nobody ever knew it. I 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.319 didn't know that, and uh so I said, Bill, really, 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:03.319 He said, man, we've had this stuff on Fridays forever. 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:05.920 So you're not gonna play. I'm gonna whip your ass. 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:10.680 We have I have to find that recording. Okay, I liked. 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:14.199 I liked It's very strong. That was Coach Sharp's, that 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:19.520 was his the cap, the hat, okay, the theory behind it. Well, 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:23.280 even as a kid, I wore one and once a 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:25.840 ball cap or no, this type of this type of 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:28.320 hat and Uh, I'm I'm from the streets of York. 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:33.800 So uh. The as we got moving on and got 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:37.760 the platform in Arizona, my wife has been a COSA 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:40.640 quarter putt, a special advocate. She was early in her 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:44.599 career a as she called it, broken family law attorney. 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:47.520 And then I moved her after five bars and she said, 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:52.600 I'm just volunteering, but I've watched her save these kids, UH, 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.480 one at a time. So we started the foundation in 0:11:55.520 --> 0:12:01.280 Arizona and we created the hats and rehat sold all 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:03.640 the all the proceeds go. We have t shirts with 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:06.040 no risk at no biscuit and they came up with 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:09.000 this great logo UM out there and we'll bring it 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:13.160 here and every every dime goes straight to the foundation. 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:17.120 And it's to help children who through no faults of 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:19.720 their own or either in frostic care or need a 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:24.600 need a kid's voice and uh and through the court system, 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:28.400 and UH saying that actually talked a long time with 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:30.800 Darcy last night and how we want to get it started. 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:35.160 Here's already been u doing everything she can in in 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:39.040 Hillsboro County already to to investigate it online. We're really 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:41.000 looking forward to that. Yeah, we're looking forward to everything. 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:44.960 That's gonna be fun. It's a pleasure we get you 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:49.480 back again, brother. Yeah, yeah, I used to have black hair. 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:56.640 That's why I did well. Thanks again, Coach the Salty Dogs, 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:02.439 and we're back here on the Salty Dogs for our 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:05.720 next segment. That was great. That's a highlight. Right. Well 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:07.280 I can say is I sure hope people hang in 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:10.000 there for the next segment because after that first question, 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:11.480 I like, I don't know if he knew what you mean, 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:13.520 be like, we gotta put this up front and everybody's 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:16.520 gonna skip our part. Yeah. I I I figured as much. 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:19.520 If you've got this go when you're probably washing the 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:21.959 dishes or something and you just keep listening the rest 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:23.920 now you listen, are the well the other side of 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:26.680 the coin is you know your impression of him, that 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:29.880 was my impression is the first time I actually shook 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.920 hands with him and spoke with him, and I did 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:35.440 that in the hallway and it was pretty cool. It 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:37.920 was very relaxed. He's very relaxed. Yeah. It feels like 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:39.719 it's going to be an easy work environment around here. 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:43.080 When we say easy work environment, what we mean by 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:46.880 that is, um, the coach. The coaches, they don't make 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:49.160 obstacles to what you're trying to do, right, and that's 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:51.720 not a bad thing. Coach has their own I'm not 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:53.720 saying that in a negative way, but some coaches want 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:57.600 certain things, or want certain times or or or don't 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:00.080 necessarily want to do something. And therefore, if I go 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:03.880 through all the coaches, Um, Richard Williamson was pretty easy. 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:07.520 He was one year Sam was an entertainer, so he 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:10.560 was really but this is before we did all this stuff. Yeah, yeah, 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:13.320 well I was doing radio shows, that's true. So and 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:17.559 then Tony Dungee was Well, what was great about Tony 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:21.200 is everything was on time and um, if you asked 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:24.080 the question, he would give you an answer, and I 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:28.000 always enjoyed. Well, I mean that's not always. Sometimes you 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:30.720 ask a question, they give you a fish yeah or no, 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:32.880 they give you the stink I and go on, why 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:36.280 are you asking me that question? So then then Groen 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:39.000 and Grooden you know he's another entertainers. Yeah, but you 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:42.880 know what's funny with John is he he was very 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:46.760 consistent and he uh you know, he did a radio shop, 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:49.040 talked about this and he was easy to work. People 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:50.880 think otherwise, but it's not true. I mean, he wasn't 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:53.160 excited about doing a radio show because he's a football guy. 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.480 When he got there, he did it. When the light 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:58.000 went on, he he gave you the time that was there. 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:02.080 Uh was falling. Raheim was a lot of fun. Fun. 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:06.640 Uh let's just get that one. I got nothing there. Um, 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:09.760 love you, love you, love you. Business like. He was 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:16.360 very business like. Um, exactly exactly. We should point out that, 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:18.000 or at least from my point of view, I don't 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:19.600 mean to put words in from out that we appreciate 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:21.840 everything that all those coaches did with us. Yes, I 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:24.920 mean sometimes you could tell they would rather be up, 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:28.440 you know, eating film, but they still did it. And 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:31.040 I want to and and you know, just recently, I 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:34.240 want to say thank you to Dirk Cutter because, uh, 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:37.960 Dirk would talk to us at the half and sometimes 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.400 he would give us a nugget. Um, you know you're 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:43.240 gonna do two quick questions you and you're usually gonna 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:45.680 be pretty surface pretty surface level. But you're you're on 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:49.600 a walk and when and you're walking, and I will 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:52.360 say he gave us nuggets. He would he would you know, 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:57.200 if something went wrong just before they went in, it'd be, 0:15:57.440 --> 0:15:59.800 oh boy, what are we going to get? Um. He 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:02.400 was a guy that you needed to ask a question 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:04.400 and it needed to be a good It had to 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:07.560 be a good question. And he was also the less also, 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:09.600 the less vague and the more football related, it was 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:14.080 the better correct And he was really good after the game, 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:17.960 let win, lose, or draw. He would talk to us 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:19.760 after the game, and he would talk to us for 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:22.720 you know, we not that we were breaking stories, but 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:25.080 other media outlets would be quoting what we did. So 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:28.520 we'd like, we'd like to wish him well going forward, 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:31.200 but unfortunately two games in lantoffs of corners, we can't 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.920 for sixteen weeks. But yeah, and I can't even route 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:35.680 that hard. I mean, we have a lot of friends 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:38.280 up there. Rich McKay's up there, and and you know, 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:41.480 Dirk we got got to know and Raheim Raheem is there. 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:45.760 Can you imagine Raheem and Dirk having a beer and 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:48.520 talking about the Tampa days. I'd love to be a 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:51.160 fly on the wall on that one. So back to 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:54.400 our current head coach, Yes, like we said, um, that 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:56.280 was the first time I met what you forgot something 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:58.320 you're gonna ask? Yeah, what I wanted to ask him, 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:00.280 if we're gonna do we call him coach? Do we 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:05.080 call him be adn't find out let that happen organically? Yeah, 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:07.040 I called him coach when he was in here. He 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:09.560 didn't see the mind. No, I don't think he might know. 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:11.840 Whatever you call, that's what you are, that's what he is. 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:13.960 It's been his life in his passion. Did you watch 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:16.560 that of football Life? I did. I recommend that to 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:18.480 anybody that has not heard about it. I've seen it yet. 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:22.240 You can find it on YouTube. It it's fantastic. All 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:24.080 those of football lives are pretty good. I really I 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:25.919 haven't seen a ton of them, but I watched all 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:28.520 that one after we hired Bruce and it's so good, 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:30.040 and it really tells you a lot about the guy. 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:32.760 That's how we knew. That's how I knew that Bear 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:34.679 Bryant was such a big deal. Damn. As an example, 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:37.080 and Jimmy Sharp the other coach that he talked about, Um, 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.600 so give that a look if you get a chance. 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:41.280 But to get back to the main point that we 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:43.440 started with here, it looks like it's going to be 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:48.160 a good work environment around here. Yes, we'll see we'll see. Well, 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:50.320 it'll be interesting because he says coach him hard and 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:52.680 hug him later, So he's not afraid to chew a 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:55.520 guy out. So I guess it's possible if I mess up, 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.440 I could be coached hard and then hugged later. Yeah, 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:00.879 it's not personal. It's just was what we need to 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:03.760 do to get where we have to go. I like 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:08.080 this thing. I liked. Uh. Um. You know, he talked 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:10.680 about chemistry, whatever that is. I thought that was pretty good. 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:12.960 I agree with him completely on that chemistry is an 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:16.080 overrated word and it tends to be something you notice 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:19.960 after your team is successful, and of course everybody's happy 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:22.000 when your team successful, and it that seems like, oh, 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:24.480 it's because there's such a great chemistry. There's something to that. 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:27.080 There's there's obviously something to relationships. But chemistry is just 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:29.360 such a broad word that people apply. So I liked 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:31.040 his answer on that one, and I liked his answer 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:34.320 on culture. Yeah, that was good. Um good. We talked 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:37.800 briefly with him about Todd Bowles um, and I didn't 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:40.760 think that this was the right avenue. He hasn't even 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:43.000 really had his own introductory press conference yet. To get 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:46.439 into the xs and ohs of Todd Bowles. So you know, 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:48.960 we basically just wanted the the overarching answer, and he 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:51.240 give us that. It's attacking defense. It's it's gonna be 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:54.240 an aggressive defense man to man coverage. I like that. 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:56.800 I think a lot of Buck fans would like to 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:59.320 see our defense be more aggressive in general. So I 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:01.800 think that's a good thing. But what's interesting about the 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:05.480 Todd Bowles higher is that it could signal a change 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:09.600 that has been changed to something that's been here for 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:12.560 about twenty eight years now. Because if he goes to 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:16.639 the three four like he's running his last two stops, uh, 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:19.159 that is a big change for the Buckeers. I like 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:21.359 the fact that he said he wasn't gonna go ahead 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:23.800 and you know, take a square player and put it 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:27.199 in a round hole. And I know we're talking. You know, 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:30.040 it's all gonna be. People are gonna speculate who's here, 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:32.320 who's not here. I'm not talking about any of that. 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:36.000 I'm just talking about the philosophy that I have a 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:39.600 game plan and Okay, you're my guy, but you don't 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:41.320 really fit. But I'm gonna try to make it right. 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:43.679 It just doesn't work. Yeah, That's why I brought up 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:46.920 Chris Johnson because, um, he when he was in Arizona, 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:49.679 Like I said, Chris, you remember Chris Johnson c J 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:51.720 two care or whatever, when he was ripping it up 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:53.720 for Tennessee and by the time you got to Arizona 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:56.640 and was basically, you know, a backup. And then David 0:19:56.680 --> 0:19:58.960 Johnson got hurt. He had to be the guy. It 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:01.840 seemed like his career pretty much on the down side. 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:03.399 And then he did some really good things there and 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:06.280 apparently he went to the coach and said, listen, I 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:08.720 think this type of play, like coach like to run it. 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:11.320 Bruce arians like to run it downhill up the middle, 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:13.600 and and Chris Johnson is like, I think I can 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:16.239 succeed with more stretch plays. I think we should run 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:18.240 more stretch players. And Bruce listened to him and he 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:20.640 did that and it worked and that's exactly what you're 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:23.000 talking about. And he also made that comment like about 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:28.640 quarterbacks listening to what works for them. How does this go? Um? Yeah, 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:32.320 I mean he's a coach. He's a football coach. Not 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:34.440 not to say that there weren't other football coaches here, 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:37.480 but he this is what he does he's got a 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:41.760 game plan. He he got to be a head coach 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:44.800 late in life. You know, that's right, And so did 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:47.480 Dirk and and they both appreciated it. And I noticed 0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:50.520 the difference. There's a difference. Yeah, he definitely appreciates and 0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:51.960 and that's one thing you'll see if you watch that 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:54.200 a football life thing is And that's why I didn't 0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:56.680 really bring it up specifically because of you know, it's 0:20:56.720 --> 0:20:59.680 it wasn't an original thought or anything, but uh, he 0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:04.120 according to what you're hearing that a football life documentary. 0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:06.639 One of the reasons it took a long time for 0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:09.680 him to get ahead job even though he was obviously 0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:11.760 having tons of success. He was he was a coordinator. 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:14.919 I mean, a successful coordinator usually gets interviews you see that, 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:18.320 and he wasn't getting them until after his interim head 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:21.480 coaching stint with Indianapolis, and that went so well. Was because, 0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:24.439 as his family members would say, he's like, he's not 0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:26.240 going to tell you what you want to hear. He's 0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:29.159 he's not going to do the political answer. He's not 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:31.239 going to say what the owner is expecting to hear. 0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:33.560 He's gonna say what he means. He's gonna do it 0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:36.760 his way, and so when he got now and when 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:39.840 he got to be finally got that opportunity, it wasn't 0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:42.600 because he had given in and stopped doing it his way. 0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:45.560 So in the end, it speaks to what you were 0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:48.760 just saying, uh, getting the job later in life, but 0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:52.000 also getting the job without having to sacrifice what he 0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:54.159 believed in. And so I think that's part of the 0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:56.200 reason why he was a success as a head coach, 0:21:56.200 --> 0:21:58.080 and I think that's why he'll be a success here. 0:21:58.520 --> 0:22:01.480 And I think it's a great hire for that reason. Um, 0:22:01.600 --> 0:22:03.840 you know, you want a guy who knows exactly who 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:05.359 he is and knows exactly how he wants to get 0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:06.919 it done, and then you want to get out of 0:22:06.960 --> 0:22:08.359 the get out of his way and let him do it. 0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:11.840 And that and I will say this with this organization, 0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:15.200 they've always let each head coach run. That's absolutely true. 0:22:15.240 --> 0:22:18.520 And that's the people on the outside will say differently, 0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:23.119 they'll think it's different, but having um been associated with 0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:26.000 the club for a number of years and then actually 0:22:26.080 --> 0:22:32.240 being inside, it's a different perspective when you're inside and um, yeah, 0:22:32.280 --> 0:22:35.600 here's here's the keys of the car. Go make it go. Now. 0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:37.920 I brought up Todd Bowles, and you didn't. We didn't 0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:40.320 stick to it very long. But if if we probably 0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:42.640 might fault if we switched to a three four. Most 0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:44.320 things that go wrong on this podcast or your fault 0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:46.679 if we switched to a three four. I hope I 0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:50.080 hit record. Of course the podcast wouldn't start at all 0:22:50.080 --> 0:22:51.760 if you weren't here, because I don't know which buttons 0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:55.080 to push on that thing over there. If the Buccaneers 0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:58.280 switched to a three ft Now, obviously every team runs 0:22:58.320 --> 0:23:00.840 some three four, some four three concert ups. There's you know, 0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:03.600 over and under fronts can look like four threes and 0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:06.639 three fours. We know that. But there are teams that 0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:09.719 are more of a base three four or four three. 0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:11.280 And the Bucks have not been a three four team 0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:15.800 since Richard Williams. The last year of Ray Perkins and 0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:18.320 then Richard Willinson took over, they switched to a for 0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:20.679 three and it's been that way ever since, and a 0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:23.240 lot of those years not just for three, but also 0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:25.280 a team that relies a lot on the cover two. 0:23:25.920 --> 0:23:30.240 Um changing to a three four defense. If that's what happens, 0:23:30.320 --> 0:23:31.560 and we don't know this is I think this is 0:23:31.600 --> 0:23:33.960 gonna be the one and more fascinating storylines of the offseason. 0:23:34.280 --> 0:23:38.160 What is the defense and and if it is more 0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:40.639 of a three four style defense, what players fit? Now? 0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:43.320 I know what we just said about square pegs, and 0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:45.560 they'll play to their strengths. But the fact is certain 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:47.840 defensive style is gonna need certain types of players. If 0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:50.280 you're running a three four, really really running a three four, 0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:54.320 you're gonna need pass rushing outside linebackers. Uh do we 0:23:54.400 --> 0:23:56.240 have that? Is no expense one of those? Could this 0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:57.959 be a good thing for him? That kind of thing. 0:23:57.960 --> 0:24:00.000 There's gonna be a lot of questions. And Dona's if 0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:02.359 vita Va might be the perfect nose tackle on the 0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:04.960 three four, and that is one of the most underrated 0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:07.560 pieces of the three four all the great Pittsburgh defense 0:24:07.560 --> 0:24:10.360 has always had a great guy in the middle right there, 0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:13.440 and so, uh, it'll be it'll be fascinating. But also 0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:17.760 they're talking about the aggressive press man coverage on the outside. 0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:19.159 Is that that seems like it would be great for 0:24:19.200 --> 0:24:21.280 Carlton Davis. How good is that going to be for 0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:24.080 Vernon Hargraves. I think he's actually better in in in 0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:27.680 man coverage um than in zone, So I think it's 0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:31.439 gonna be fascinating to see which players thrive if it 0:24:31.520 --> 0:24:35.000 becomes a different style of defense. Yeah, I've heard. I 0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:37.480 mean I was thinking. I think it was Dirk that 0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:40.720 that made a comment that there isn't a true three four. 0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:43.560 He said that a lot in the league anymore. It's there, 0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:45.560 but it's it's He would say that about a lot 0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:46.960 of teams. But then every now and then we'd play 0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:48.720 a team like Pittsburgh and go, now, this is a 0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:51.040 truth three four. And of course Pittsburgh has always been 0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:53.240 a true three four and they've been fantastic at it forever. 0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:57.080 And they always find pass rushing linebackers like the second 0:24:57.119 --> 0:24:59.680 third of like twenty pick in the draft, like a T. J. 0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:03.479 Wat They always find those guys. If you're listening to 0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:06.679 this before the games on the weekend. And when I 0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:09.680 say that, I hope the second round, second round playoffs, 0:25:09.680 --> 0:25:14.800 because watch the Indianapolis Colts game. Their defense is a 0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:18.359 variation of what Pittsburgh did. And they were really good 0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:22.000 against Baltimore, shutting it down. And it was an interesting 0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:25.680 thing he played in Houston. The Chargers shut down Baltimore. 0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:29.360 Oh maybe it was it was the Chargers that then, 0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:31.920 Now what the Chargers did. They were moving they it 0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:34.760 was the guy found that they played seven defensive backs 0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:37.040 for all but one snap of that game. They played 0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:40.640 safeties at linebacker, partially because all their linebackers are hurt. 0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:42.520 Like remember when all our linebackers got hurt and all 0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:44.359 of a sudden, we're playing Andrew Adams is basically a 0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:47.040 safety and the slash linebacker. All the time, they played 0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:50.520 all safeties as linebackers, had seven linebackers on or seven 0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:52.720 defensive backs on the field, because they wanted to combat 0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:55.239 Lamar Jackson's running and they wanted maybe it still as 0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:56.800 the Colts to night and yeah, well they had a 0:25:56.840 --> 0:26:00.280 great game. They were moving. They were talking about whoever 0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:04.440 their defensive coordinator is, he's new so, uh what he 0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:08.720 he went back into tape and found some Steeler tape. 0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:11.159 I don't know, something like that. Hey, I think he 0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:16.080 got some head coaching sniffs and um, the way they 0:26:16.080 --> 0:26:19.920 were moving guys around on the front, I didn't see 0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:24.160 that game. Can't impress Well, okay, let me well, that's 0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:26.280 one of the great things watch all the games and 0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:28.840 in the show, and that's how you get out of 0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:31.119 this one. If they if they were really running a 0:26:31.200 --> 0:26:33.399 three four. That's one of the great things about it 0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:35.280 if you're if you've got a good three four scheme, 0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:37.880 is you can bring pressure from so many different ways. 0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:39.679 It's very it can be very difficult to figure out 0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:41.439 where the pressure is coming from. That's it was just 0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:43.800 all this movement and I was like, dang, look at that, 0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:47.000 and you know, so, um, you know there there there 0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:50.119 is some other news we should probably get to before. Well, 0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:51.960 Mike Evans is going to the Pro Bowl. Yes, I'm 0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:54.040 happy for Mike. Yeah, I mean I kind of thought 0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:57.800 he should would have happened because he was the first alternate, 0:26:57.920 --> 0:26:59.920 I mean the first the four that were voted in 0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:04.840 and were Davante Adams, Uh, Julio Jones, Adam DeLand, and 0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:08.360 Michael Thomas. Adam Theland and Michael Thomas had more catches 0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:12.200 and Julio Jones had more yards, and Davante Adams had 0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:15.040 more touchdowns. So there are reasons you could say those 0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:17.359 were all valid picks over Mike. But I think Mike's 0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:20.479 entire line was impressive enough that he should have been 0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:22.400 one of the first four. And it's hard saying who 0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:26.200 to knock out. Maybe dealon I don't know. They're all great. 0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:29.439 I'm glad they're all getting recognized. Um, theland sort of 0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:30.920 tailed off a little bit towards him of the year, 0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:32.520 but of course the voting isn't right at the end 0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:38.640 of the year. Uh. Anyway, Mike had d twenty two 0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:42.000 yards I think, uh, which is a team record. It 0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:45.000 was second in the conference. So you think that guy 0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:48.720 would be one of your two starters if he's second 0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:52.640 in the conference and receiving yards. Um, maybe it's because 0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:54.359 he didn't. He only had five touchdowns until he had 0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:56.600 three in the last two games. But he averaged seventeen 0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:59.840 point seven yards per catch, which is enormous number for 0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:02.560 guy that had eighty six catches. In fact, it's the 0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:06.680 third highest average any receivers ever had in a season 0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:10.040 where he had eighty five catches or more. That's amazing 0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:12.520 and it's a bit of a function of our offense. 0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:15.280 But nobody else did it. I mean, he's still Yes, 0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:17.359 we threw the ball downfield, but we had to have 0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:21.480 a guy who could make that work. Hey wait, yeah, exactly. 0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:24.120 That's one thing that Bruce arians likes to do. Yes, 0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:26.080 he like when he sees that he's got a shot, 0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:28.280 he'll take it like if you're playing single high safety, 0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:32.920 don't spot, or if he's single high safety is like, okay, 0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:35.520 let's send go routes on the outside. Uh. And you 0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:37.639 know how we know this is true because we were 0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:40.479 in Arizona in two thousand and seventeen and our defense 0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:44.080 was struggling with their communication, and boy did he take 0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:46.480 advantage of that. They would just lit us up down 0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:49.120 the field. It was demoralizing at the time, but now 0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:51.360 I'm now I'm having rosier memories of it because I 0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:54.400 can picture it in on the other side now for once, 0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:56.880 after our offense has been bad. You know, I'd love 0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:58.880 a game where you know, it's forty eight to nothing 0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:01.120 and we're ahead, you know you would, Yeah, kind of 0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:06.320 like the New Orleans game the beginning of the year. 0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:09.240 We were up, it's funny whatever, whatever. Then it got 0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:12.640 really harry at that. It doesn't matter, that's the key. 0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:15.440 Did you know? This is an interesting note and I'll 0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:18.200 credit one of our staff members here, Jason Turner, for 0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:21.480 finding this out that when New Orleans won the Super 0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:27.560 Bowl in the two thousand and eight lost against US. Yeah, 0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:30.320 so you have heard that they lost again Carolina and 0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:32.640 they lost against the win thirteen and three with losses 0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:35.000 against the Bucks, Panthers, and Cowboys. And that's exactly what 0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:36.760 happened again this year. So that means they're gonna win 0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:39.800 the Super Bowl, right, lightning strikes twice. I wouldn't. I 0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:42.520 wouldn't put it. I wouldn't bet against him. I would either. 0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:45.080 But I'm still, you know, the Rams. Still it's gonna 0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:46.840 be thrilling with it. I assumed that Saints and Rams 0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:48.600 are gonna win in and meet the NFC championship and 0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:52.560 just watch, just watch the Cowboys. They'll get hot, just 0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:57.000 you know, things like that. I really hated losing to 0:29:57.040 --> 0:29:59.800 the Cowboys. I had a chance to win that game. 0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:01.880 Who turnovers? See, I didn't think they were that good, 0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:04.040 good enough to beat us? But they but I didn't 0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:05.560 think and I didn't think they were going to be 0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:07.600 I thought the Gattle was to Seattle too. I would 0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:10.400 like to point out an amazing accomplishment I made this 0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:14.680 past way. How's your arm from patting myself on the back, Well, 0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:17.160 maybe you should let me finish before you said I 0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:20.120 was just with friends, not that as a gambling thing, 0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:23.320 just picking the games. I managed to pick all four 0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:27.880 games wrong. That's hard to do, man. Yeah, I had 0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:30.160 the uh, and I don't know why. I don't know why. 0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:32.120 I picked the Ravens because I wanted the Chargers to win, 0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:33.760 and I thought they were gonna win when I started 0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:35.800 watching the game. But if I look back at I 0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:38.600 wanted written down and it was the Ravens. And so 0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:40.960 I picked Seattle. You just said you thought to Texans. 0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:43.320 I thought to Texas and that was a terrible pick 0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:47.080 because the Colts were hot. That was a bad, bad pick. 0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:50.040 Everybody one except Seattle. For me, that was the one 0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:52.520 I lost. I picked You picked the Chargers, and then 0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:55.600 what was the other one? Uh? The Colts? The Bears? 0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:59.240 You picked Philly? Come on, no, no, you said everybody? Okay, 0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:03.720 I so all four of them except two? Yeah? Could 0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:06.600 I forgot about if you just got an F? Yeah? 0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:09.160 Math was not myself, although it's probably great in for 0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:10.520 grading on a curve and it's only you and me 0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:12.440 in the class got an A plus. Well, let's see 0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:14.520 how many did you get? Right? I got zero percent 0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:17.600 of them? Right, all right? And I got two better 0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:20.040 than you are. You can't divide by zero, joke, you can, 0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:23.840 but you would get an A on the current in 0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:27.479 this day and age, you can do anything. Well. By 0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:29.800 the time everybody here's this that we have already had 0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:32.440 the press conference with Dirk, I'm sure that will be exciting. 0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:36.480 You know, I just said, Dirk, sorry, yes, we already have. 0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:38.520 You know. It's like when you It's like when a 0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:40.440 new year happens and you were still writing two thousand 0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:42.320 eighteen on your checks for a month. You want to 0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:45.280 hear a funny story, right, You want to hear a 0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:50.200 funny course you do is you talk about that training 0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:53.840 camp over in Orlando. The first chief remember those years, 0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:57.440 first year John Gruden's the head coach. The first interview 0:31:57.560 --> 0:32:00.840 I'm going to do with Jon Gruden. He's coming off 0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:04.680 the field right, we're live on the radio, already live, 0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:09.440 we are alive. And I said, okay, coaches coming up here. 0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:11.920 We're gonna we're gonna get them real quick. And I 0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:15.440 dropped the microphone. So as I dropped the micro on purpose, 0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:18.800 not on purpose, I dropped it, and I was like, 0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:22.000 oh God. And so he walks up and I grabbed 0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:24.520 the microphone and I went into automatic mode and I 0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:28.480 rock up and I went so tony, and he goes, 0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:33.040 he looks at me. He looks at me. He says, 0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:36.080 he said, Tony did a lot of good things here. 0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:41.080 So I will always say that Jon Gruden was very, 0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.360 very great. Sious did he did? He hold that over 0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:45.440 you though? To bring it up? He just he just 0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:47.960 under he understood. But but I was like, are you 0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:50.840 kidding me? Yes, I live in fear of calling a 0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:52.680 player of the wrong name in the locker room, so 0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:57.960 I don't usually say anybody, hey, buddy, okay, are we good? 0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:00.880 So yeah, we're uh, we're gonna get question. Conference will 0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:05.240 be over. But otherwise I was just getting that, say 0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:08.040 what's coming up? We're gonna We're obviously gonna have a 0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:10.360 lot of head coach I mean assistant coach hires coming. 0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:12.200 I think that's gonna come together quickly. There's gonna be 0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:14.520 a lot of them though, because as you heard Bruce say, 0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:16.560 he has a big staff. I can't wait to see 0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:19.680 that the two. That's a bit of will we will 0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:22.400 reset the table on that he talks about no one 0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:25.760 stands around. He has enough coaches he does to practices 0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:28.360 the same things. It's brilliant. I hadn't even thought of 0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:30.760 that idea. But you're right in and fans who don't 0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:33.360 get to see a ton of practices. Should understand that 0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:35.200 it is true that there are usually a lot of 0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:37.840 players standing around when your first team offense is out there. 0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:41.240 The backups are just standing there and vice versa. So 0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:43.840 that is a way to maximize what you're doing, isn't it. 0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:45.880 But you have to have a lot of coaches. Gotta 0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:47.680 have a lot of coaches. And that's the reason why, 0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:49.680 because we have noticed he had a really big coaching 0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:52.760 staff in Arizona, but weren't sure exactly why. And that 0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:54.640 and that'll be great for the fans during training camp 0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:56.880 because no matter what, there's no downtime. Good thing. We 0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:59.560 have a big building here with lots of officers, I know, 0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:03.680 not enough knocking down some way, maybe moving down when 0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:05.800 they came, I didn't say anything when they came for 0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:08.240 Jeff Ryan's office and then they came for my office. 0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:10.720 They're gonna come for years. First Years is closer to football, 0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:13.080 but it's really secluded back there in the corner by 0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:15.600 the but they're gonna take that whole gated community out 0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:18.560 Scott's and Scott's is such a fancy place here at 0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:22.200 the Adventure Health Training Center. At the Health is one word. Yes, 0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:25.360 um he is. He's so special. He's in a gated 0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:27.359 community and we call it that because you cannot get 0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:31.040 in unless you use your key card. There's only one 0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:33.480 other office that has a key card to get into. 0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:37.560 You know whose office that is? Well, well on the 0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:44.440 business side, on the business side, who owners. Oh, I 0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:47.160 like where you're going with this? Yeah? Like it? Um 0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:49.120 so yours is going. The real reason is because I'm 0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:51.040 right across from the server room. Yeah, they and they 0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:54.719 got locked up, but it sounded good. The great thing 0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:57.160 about being right by the I T guys is when 0:34:57.320 --> 0:34:59.400 something like the internet goes up, down or something, you 0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:03.319 don't have to call. You just say hey, guys, and yes, 0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:06.080 people have already told turn it off, turn it back on. 0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:08.600 That's always the first step. All right, let's get two 0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:10.719 questions and wrap it up. Huh, I've got two of them. 0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:13.359 One of them you're going to recognize who it's from. Uh, 0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:16.359 it's our friend Rusty Rusty Cheney, who is a retired nurse, 0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:18.799 Happy Year and likes to listen to our show. She 0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:20.640 says that a lot. She's very complimentary. The other one 0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:22.960 is a new from a new person. Okay, you can 0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:27.000 tell from this that she sent it before the coaching higher. 0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:29.239 It was a couple of days ago. There's by the way, 0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:31.759 there's a picture of a donut on the top and 0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:34.279 picture of coffee on the bottom, so she was probably 0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:37.200 sitting this during breakfast. Happy New Year, Jeff and Scott. 0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:38.960 Thank you. Happy New Year, Rusty. I hope you both 0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:41.200 had a fun and RESTful holiday break. I would say fun, 0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:44.719 not RESTful, but but you were missed. I guess it's true. 0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:46.560 We have to admit we didn't. We didn't do a 0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:48.759 podcast the last couple of weeks just because of all 0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:50.400 the stuff that was going on. But you know, when 0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:52.320 you listen to this one, now you know why we didn't. 0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:55.400 We were saving it. Yes, and you're really gonna like 0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:58.680 this next partum because you're gonna feel justified. Alex Smith 0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:01.320 was an enjoyable guest on the last show, and Jeff 0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:03.400 really took me down memory lane with his referral to 0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:07.960 Smith Brothers. Cough drops. Jeff, I'm sorry, yeah, pay attention. 0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:10.680 I know, I know, but this is business. She she 0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:12.440 she took her down memory lane with her with the 0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:15.600 Smith Brothers drops, which I laughed at. That was the 0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:17.239 best part of having a cold when I was a kid. 0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:20.319 I've never heard of this, But you touched the nerve, 0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:22.320 have you not? Have you never had a Smith Brothers? 0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:26.560 Its halls? Everybody just has halls. No Smith Brothers. We 0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:28.000 need to find out if they still exist and get 0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:30.640 them to be a sponsor for this show. The Smith Brothers, 0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:33.799 two guys, the Salty Dogs, two guys with big long beer. 0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:38.239 My name is Smith. You've got a beard. I like it? Okay, Well, 0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:39.919 our last game was this is Her again. Our last 0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:41.600 game was another heartbreaker, and now the search is on 0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:43.760 for a new head coach. You'll probably have already announced 0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:45.680 who that is by the time you do the podcast. 0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:47.880 That's true. As a true fan, I will break good. 0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:49.799 I will embrace whoever we get and wish for more 0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:52.520 success for him and his staff. Who decides what coaches 0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:55.360 assistance from last season stay on? Is it's only the 0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:58.080 head coach decides? Or do the Glazers or Jason Light 0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:00.560 say we want to keep Prince and Buckner or Mark 0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:03.319 Dufner for example, in some capacity. And I think at 0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:07.640 least in this case, it's it's a coach. Bruce gets 0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:10.520 to decide his staff, and I think that's something that 0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:16.399 UM this ownership group has done. They've had coaches under 0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:20.279 contract where they are owed money whether they work or not, 0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:23.440 and because of a new head coach wanting to make changes, 0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:26.959 they have paid the contract out. Well that's what Jason 0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:29.640 Light said at the end of the season. He's like, UM, coach, 0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:31.640 whatever coach we hire will get an opportunity if he 0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:33.120 wants to to keep any of the staff, But we 0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:35.960 are also going to let those people interview elsewhere if 0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:38.640 they didn't. Didn't Brinson Buckner go to Oakland? I think? 0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:42.200 I think so in any case, UM, and he out 0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:43.520 of all of our coach he was the one you 0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:46.640 would think, yes, because he was the only one under contract. Well, 0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:49.760 also he worked with Bruce Yes in Arizona. Yes, because 0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:52.759 everybody else, everybody else their contracts were ended, they were 0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:55.920 in an option year or so. That is one of 0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:58.960 those that's that's maybe I'm wrong about that Oakland thing, 0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:01.319 but I thought he went to Oakland. It's a tough life, Yeah, 0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:04.759 it's definitely a nomadic life. Has been in radio. How 0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:07.880 radio was along these lines. If you again, I referenced 0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:10.319 that UM a football Life documentary. If you watch that, 0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:12.360 you'll see there's a point where he got an interview 0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:14.600 with Indianapolis after the two I mean with Chicago after 0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:18.360 the two thousand twelve season when he won Coach of 0:38:18.360 --> 0:38:21.839 the Year and who knows, you know, we only hear 0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:23.879 one side of it, but his his kids. I think 0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:26.200 we're saying that he didn't get that job because he 0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:28.480 was insisting that he had to bring Todd bowls in 0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:30.440 Chicago didn't want to switch to A three four. Yeah, 0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:32.640 they were running a Tampa too, And then Arizona was 0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:34.920 the year you love he got fired, that's right, and 0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:37.640 then Arizona, Um, well, I love he set out for 0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:41.160 a year before. Okay, I'm sorry. Arizona was fine with that. 0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:43.640 And so that's why he took that job in Arizona, 0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:45.520 because they said yes to who he wanted to hire. 0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:47.640 I I get that. If you're going in, I mean 0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:50.720 it's like any business you go in, you look around. 0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:53.040 If you're a new manager, you're looking to see who 0:38:53.080 --> 0:38:56.120 who's there, who's not square, a whole round hole, that 0:38:56.160 --> 0:39:00.560 type of thing. Um. I think that. I think that, Um, 0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:02.879 I think we will have a completely new Yeah. So 0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:04.920 the answer to your question, Rusty is it's it's Bruce 0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:07.080 arians who will get to choose. And these guys that 0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:08.480 have been in the league for a long time, they 0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:10.680 all have a network of guys so they can make 0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:13.600 phone calls quickly and find out who's interested, who's available, 0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:17.160 and they know the system. And that's what has to 0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:20.240 happen that coaches have to teach it to the players, 0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:22.799 right And so anybody you've got that's already worked with 0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:25.800 Bruce and we've heard something, we haven't announced anything that 0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:27.480 bowls yet, so we're not gonna name any names. And 0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:29.880 we've certainly heard some and a lot of them have 0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:32.480 connections to him in the past. And people sometimes have 0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:35.080 to understand the reason why we you and I cannot 0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:37.960 name names. If we say a name, it's like we're 0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:40.960 announcing it. We are because we officially worked for the team, 0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:44.440 so a buck spokesperson, you know, So we can't even 0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:49.000 though we've all heard the same names too. It's hard. Okay. 0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:51.920 She finishes by saying, hopefully you all will decide to 0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:54.560 continue the show in the off season. We've talked about that. Yeah, 0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:56.800 sometimes just every week. Yeah, I think it's going to 0:39:56.880 --> 0:39:59.680 be for special occasions, I mean it, you know, maybe 0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:02.759 if if Todd Boyles come maybe you know, it would 0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:04.920 be great to get him more something like that, just 0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:08.279 to introduce him to to Buck fans. She says, I 0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:10.720 read your news every day, Scott, and enjoyed Carmen's columns 0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:13.080 and Casey shows with you and Alian Donovan. But there's 0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:15.000 nobody doing what you and Jeff do on the podcast, 0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:18.879 splending current news with the memories. Thank you, Rusty, Thank 0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:21.160 you Rusty. She keeps finding new ways to say nice 0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:24.040 things to us. She wasn't she She was a nurse 0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:26.799 and nurse you well, so she has a people right 0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:30.680 bedsized bedside manner. All right, um, Scott and Jeff for 0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:32.640 this is the next question. We only have two today 0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:34.759 because we haven't. I don't think people thought knew were 0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:36.720 for having a show, so I'm actually kind of surprised 0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:39.640 we even have these two. This one apparently was just 0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:44.280 britten yesterday or today, first time I've written in, he says, 0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:47.560 but I'm just really excited by the Bruce arians hire. 0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:51.120 Earlier today, I heard Scott and okay, so he he 0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:55.040 wrote this on Tuesday. Then, okay, what today is it? Today? 0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:57.480 Today's Thursday? Okay, so he wrote this on Wednesday. This 0:40:57.520 --> 0:41:00.960 guy's name is Mark and he lives in Brandon. Apparently, uh, 0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:04.160 because that's when Casey now we're doing our inside lives. 0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:07.160 Earlier today I heard Scott and Casey talking about how 0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:09.000 it seemed like all the reaction and they had seen 0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:12.160 to the Bruce arians hire was positive. That's probably not 0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:14.440 completely true. I'm sure there's somebody out there was hoping 0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:17.200 for Chris Roe Shard or that Casey coordinator. He says, 0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:18.879 I don't want to look up how to spell his name, 0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:22.719 Eric the Enemy. Um. I always liked his um the 0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:28.160 nickname um Eric Sleeping with the enemy, Sleeping with the enemy, 0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:32.800 Chris Berman. But I agree that everybody, But I agree 0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:35.359 that everybody I've talked to about it feels the same way, 0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:38.560 he says, positively, but and and anestally. Actually, it is 0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:41.480 true in that I said I hadn't seen any negative reaction. 0:41:41.560 --> 0:41:43.680 Everything I've seen was positive, and that's true. I the 0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:46.160 only things I've seen are positive. I agree there's somebody 0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:49.799 out there who's not gonna like can't wait. Um. So 0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:52.359 my question is, how does this reaction compared to what's 0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:54.839 been like over other head coach hires, like how Pump 0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:57.799 were people's first, say Greg Siano, or Rahey Morris. I've 0:41:57.800 --> 0:42:00.279 been a Bucks fan since the mid two thousand's missed 0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:02.719 the Super Bowl then, and I really don't remember how 0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:05.680 the other hires were received. Thanks in advance if you 0:42:05.719 --> 0:42:08.759 get to my question mark, I think I think it's 0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:12.919 interesting that most I would say all the hires were received, well, yeah, 0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:15.319 but I mean that's I mean, it's the time of optimism, right. 0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:17.040 It's like how everybody thinks they're going to the Super Bowl. 0:42:17.080 --> 0:42:20.080 And when you looked at Raheem, he was a young guy. 0:42:20.280 --> 0:42:23.719 He was at that time. Uh you know, but you 0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:26.560 gotta put it all together there because that was a 0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:30.200 a surprise firing of John Gruden and me hiring of Raheem, 0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:32.399 And there were certainly some people who didn't think John 0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:35.600 should go, So that wasn't completely positive matter how people 0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:38.440 felt about Rahem, but he was he was considering an 0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:41.719 up and comer, Greg Schiano was. They weren't sure it 0:42:41.800 --> 0:42:43.759 was going to be interesting in a college coach coming in. 0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:47.359 Then um, then we all know where that went. And then, 0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:50.000 love you, everybody was excelled pretty positive because it felt 0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:52.759 like a call back to back to the future. I 0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:54.560 think people felt pretty good about that one but I 0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:56.719 don't think it was as as over the top as 0:42:56.800 --> 0:43:00.640 this one. Uh we missed one in there, didn't Dar Dirk. 0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:04.480 Certainly Dirk Dirk was a you're not gonna get when 0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:07.000 you hire from within, you're not gonna get the same pot. No, no, 0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:09.759 but I think what the buzz there was because of 0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:12.799 his relationship with Jamis and everyone was very excited about that. 0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:14.399 I remember at the time, I was hoping we would 0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:16.600 hire Dirk, and I was glad when we did, because 0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:18.279 they did do a little searching at that point and 0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:21.000 they and and in fairness, he you know he did. 0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:23.239 He did get nine wins in the first year, and 0:43:23.280 --> 0:43:25.359 you thought, what a great building block. I can tell 0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:28.279 you the difference between two thousand and sixteen when he 0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:30.319 went nine and seven, six and eight, six and two 0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:33.759 down the stretch and the next two years three and 0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:37.120 oh in in three point games in two thousand and sixteen, 0:43:37.880 --> 0:43:40.360 two and eight in the next two years. Yeah, that's 0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:43.319 that is that. That was it. We just couldn't win. 0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:45.239 And you can you can check that however you want. 0:43:45.280 --> 0:43:46.640 You could say bad luck, or you can say the 0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:48.600 Bucks didn't figure out how to win those games, and 0:43:48.600 --> 0:43:50.799 that's fair and that's what that's what in and and 0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:52.840 he said he knew that its results business. And in 0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:55.319 the end that's what happened there. Every year when it's 0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:57.680 over with, when when it's when the season ends and 0:43:57.719 --> 0:44:00.320 there's changes, you know, what else do you have? But 0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:03.560 hope you're expecting change. You're getting change. Everybody's going to 0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:06.440 debate whether this is good bad, and you won't know 0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:10.360 until next year at this time, and then you're gonna go, Okay, 0:44:10.400 --> 0:44:12.959 that's what year one. Now. If it's good, you go, oh, great, 0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:15.239 building box. If it's not, you go, well, it's the 0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:18.200 first year, you know, got yeah, I gotta learn that 0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:24.440 in God willing in the creek, don't rise. You and 0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:28.600 I are still doing this, and we'll let you know 0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:32.320 how good if we still have offices, right, yeah, you 0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:35.080 know it's I'll work out of the truck. It's a 0:44:35.120 --> 0:44:37.520 four year contract for Bruce with a fifth year option, 0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:40.120 so five years will be wonderful. I know people think 0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:42.719 that because Bruce was hired at the age of sixty six, 0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:45.760 that that might be the only five years, which is possible. 0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:48.200 But even if that's true, that's fine. If you right 0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:51.840 this ship and have five years here I'll be happy 0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:55.200 with that if you if you look, Tony Dungee was 0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:59.680 here six years, John Green was here seven that's it 0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:03.480 because it's it's what have you done if you win 0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:07.319 a super Bowl? A perfect example, the only club and 0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:10.880 Green Bay. If you look at Green Bay, McCarthy was 0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:17.879 their thirteen years. He won his super Bowl early. So yeah, 0:45:17.920 --> 0:45:20.440 so he still had some and and and they were 0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:22.520 generally successful. Yeah, and they they kept going to the 0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:25.960 playoffs if you keep going. But but in Tony's case, 0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:29.160 he kept going to the playoffs for whatever reason, didn't 0:45:29.160 --> 0:45:33.600 get over the hump. So um in in that aspect, 0:45:34.080 --> 0:45:39.280 I think that you know, tomorrow is not promised to anybody. 0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:41.319 So what I'm saying is, even if it is only 0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:44.279 five years, I still don't think that's a problem in 0:45:44.360 --> 0:45:47.160 terms of hiring and and and if he's sixty six, 0:45:47.239 --> 0:45:49.320 his energy level is totally there. And I know that 0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:51.720 he didn't all fishes before, but he didn't look sixty 0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:55.799 six to me. No, I hope I'm sixty. He's uh. 0:45:56.400 --> 0:45:59.520 Certainly has a grasp on social media, certainly has a 0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:03.920 grasp on the new players. I liked his answer about um, 0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:07.520 you know, learning how they learned differently, and so there's 0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:10.520 a guy that that is making adjustments. And and if 0:46:10.560 --> 0:46:12.600 you're if you're, if you're out of it, you're not 0:46:12.680 --> 0:46:16.319 making those adjustments. So I think that's good. Yeah, and 0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:19.000 this is exciting. Yeah, even if nobody's even if it's 0:46:19.000 --> 0:46:20.800 just me talking to you at this point, what everybody 0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:23.880 got all is awesome talking to Bruce. It really was, 0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:26.600 it is. I'm very excited. He came off exactly as 0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:30.680 he appears, is public persona, appears, no BS and that man, 0:46:30.840 --> 0:46:35.319 he's gonna know B S and B Alright, Jeff, al right, 0:46:35.520 --> 0:46:38.360 take us out, alright, since you did, Thanks for listening.