1 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: It's still winter. I know because there are still paper 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: snowflakes hanging in my window that my kids and grandkids made. 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: There's still a lot of frost on the ground in 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: the mornings, but crocuslinton roses daffodils have boldly poked up 5 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 1: their little heads in the terra not so FIRMA well. 6 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: Here it's still firm in the morning. It's still frozen, 7 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: trumpeting the message that spring spring is not far away. 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: Hal Lujah, hallelujah. Here at the ranch, we are still 9 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: in cozy mode. Though that means popcorn movies are still 10 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: big hits with my family. One everyone is going to 11 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: enjoy is called I Can Only Imagine Two, which has 12 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: just been released. It's a sequel too, I Can Only 13 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: Imagine That was the personal story of Mercy Mees Bart Millard. 14 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: The new movie's focus is on another band member, Tim Timmins, 15 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: and it's based on the heartfelt true story behind the 16 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: hit single Even If I Can Only Imagine Two is 17 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: the inspiring next chapter of faith, family and finding God 18 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: through the fire. The film features J. Michael Finley reprising 19 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: his role as Bart, alongside my favorite you've heard him 20 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: here on my podcast, Milo Ventimiglia. Milo is Tim Timmins, 21 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: who wrote the song who this movie is basically based on, 22 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: as well as Sophie Skelton and Dennis Quaid. Bart Millard, 23 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: as you know, is the front man of the award 24 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: winning Christian band mercy Me. He wrote the iconic hit 25 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: I Can Only Imagine the Mad History in twenty nineteen 26 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: as the first Christian song to be certified four times platinum. 27 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: He's also a producer on the film and co author 28 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: of the companion book even If, Trusting God through the 29 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 1: Fire with his wife Shannon Millard. By the way, I'm 30 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: in this movie. I have a starring role. Okay, not 31 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: a starring role, not even a role. Okay. My voice 32 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: is in the movie. Tim Timmins is a singer songwriter 33 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: who spent over two decades in ministry, writing songs born 34 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: from personal experience with pain, hope, joy, and his own cancer. 35 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: In two thousand and one, he received a terminal cancer 36 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: diagnosis with a five year prognosis. He's now twenty four 37 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: years into that five year journey. He is the co 38 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: writer of mercy Me's Grammy nominated hit song even If, 39 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: which is the subject of the new film, and he 40 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: is the author of the companion book Waking Up Again, 41 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: A Journey of Grief and Gratitude. 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Hello gentlemen, 75 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: Hello Bart, my old friend, Hi Tim, Welcome to Love Someone. 76 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to chat with you. Both the big 77 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: movie just out. I can only imagine too. Tim, Welcome Bart, welcome. 78 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: Back, Thank you. 79 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 3: Thanks. 80 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: So we got a lot to unpack here. You guys 81 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: combined like a thousand years in the Christian music industry. 82 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: Pretty old humans. 83 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: Yeah only ten for me. 84 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: Ten Yeah, something like that. Because I've known you, I 85 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: was trying to figure out when I watched the screener 86 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: last night, what year it was that we first met. 87 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 3: Bart Man. I don't know what the year it was. 88 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 4: I know you were in that little what looked like 89 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 4: a walk in closet of your radio show. 90 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: It right bowed out it was. It was the broom 91 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: closet the company that I worked for before iHeart who 92 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: has been so good to me. That's like in the 93 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: other company. I don't even mention their name, but they're 94 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: like a bad ex husband. You know. They put me 95 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: in a broom closet. Tim, you were never there, really did. 96 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 4: We're talking like biggest show in the country. I'm not kidding. 97 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 4: It's a broom closet with a pack and play. You 98 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 4: had a pack and play in there, yeah, crib. And 99 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 4: then at first time I met Delilah, I got in 100 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 4: there and she wasn't in there and I'm standing there 101 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 4: and she walks in. The first thing he says is 102 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,119 Speaker 4: it's freezing here. Get your big self on that table 103 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 4: and shut that vent in the ceiling. 104 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: I was like, yes, ma'am, hat he did. 105 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: He hopped right up there, like I. 106 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 3: Hope this table holds me. 107 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, so imagine blew up in two to three. 108 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 3: So it was right around there. 109 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. And then, uh, last night when I'm watching the 110 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: screener and it opened and it had all the voices 111 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: and then my voice popped up. I was like, oh, 112 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: how fun is this? 113 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 3: Did you not know? 114 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 5: No? 115 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: I knew. I had to sign a waiver for it, 116 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: all right, but the publishers took care of that. But 117 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: that was fun. So I in the intro of this podcast, 118 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: I might have mentioned that I had a starring role. Yeah, yeah, feature, yeah, 119 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: that when we do it. When you do, I only 120 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: imagine three. I need to be on the screen though, 121 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: bart Okay, you. 122 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 3: Got it, We'll do it. 123 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 6: You heard it here people, this has happened in space. 124 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. 125 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: I got to play in a veggietail about fifteen twenty 126 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: years ago. I was Sarah, a little sour grape, and 127 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: I thought that I that was like my ultimate dream 128 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: come true, getting to be in the veggietails because I 129 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: love veggietails. 130 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's incredible. I went non vegetails, were you Tim? 131 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: Nope, Nope, didn't didn't get that. 132 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: Not only that, but I don't think either one of 133 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: you have ever written songs quite as profound as as Vegietails. 134 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: I mean, the bunny just being hurtful to the bunny, 135 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: brilliant the bonny. 136 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 3: The bunny was aware. Is my hair brush? 137 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: Is my hairbrush? So where where? 138 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 4: Where? 139 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 3: Where? 140 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: Where? Where is bru? 141 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 6: Yes, you've nailed it. Gosh, So I think a singing 142 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 6: part and I can only imagine three is coming up. 143 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 6: That's how I'm feeling. 144 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: Maybe it's this interview is like the whole hympetus. 145 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: So there's so much to unpack here because you both 146 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: have incredible stories to share. Tim, you are twenty four 147 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: years pasted a diagnosis of terminal cancer that had given 148 00:08:58,400 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: you a couple of years to live. 149 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, this year it's twenty five. It's actually now twenty 150 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 6: five years. That gave me five years to live twenty 151 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 6: five years ago, so stage four incurable, all that stuff, 152 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 6: still tumors on my liver. 153 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: Today, so I keep getting to wake up. 154 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: So that tells me one of two things about you, Tim. 155 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: That tells me either A, the Lord has more work 156 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: for you to do here, because I truly believe that 157 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: when our work is done, we get to go home. 158 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, or b. 159 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: Jig geek got you know, he wants you there, but 160 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: you got a little more purification you got to go through. 161 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: It's one of those two. 162 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, I mean, I'm sure there's a C and 163 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 6: a D and maybe even an E. But I think 164 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 6: I used to think I knew those things. I don't 165 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 6: know anymore. I think I'm trying to figure out how 166 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 6: to engage home here, which if there is a C, 167 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 6: there's a piece of like, yes, I you know, when 168 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 6: it's all done, I just don't have to be a 169 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 6: afraid of it like you're saying, like it doesn't have 170 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 6: to be as scary as I've made death. 171 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: Can I give you a gift that was given to 172 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: me by a beautiful singer songwriter that changed that dynamic 173 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: for me? 174 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 2: Give it? 175 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: Twenty twelve, I lost my son Sammy, who I had 176 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: adopted from an orphanage in Ghana. Adopted him, showed up 177 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: in court unaware that he had terminal sickle cell anemia, 178 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: that he was very, very very sick. Brought him home 179 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: thinking we were going to have you know, five, ten, 180 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: fifteen years together, and that wasn't the story that the 181 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: Lord had written. And then just a couple of years later, 182 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: I lost my biological baby who was in the play 183 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: and pack in our studio art when he was eighteen yea, 184 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: and I couldn't breathe, I couldn't move. And it was 185 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: in that place when Rory Feet called me and he 186 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 1: had just lost his wife I think shortly before, yeah, 187 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: and he said something that changed changed me on a 188 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: cellular level. He said, your boys are much more a 189 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: part of your future than they are a part of 190 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: your past. Because of their faith. You know where they are, 191 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: and now, instead of fearing that transition, you will look 192 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: forward to it with anticipation. I'm like, say that again. 193 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. 194 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 4: My grandmother used to say when she goes, you know, 195 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 4: the only good thing about getting older is that the 196 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 4: longer I'm here, the more I have invested in Heaven 197 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 4: than I do here on earth. 198 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 3: And she goes, I. 199 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 4: Just I'm just every day I'm less and less afraid 200 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 4: of what's to come. 201 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 3: Amen, truth to that. 202 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: Amen. 203 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: Thanks for sharing that, dellalla change me. 204 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 3: You know what's funny is Dona, you're Greg Glory. When 205 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 3: Greg lost his son years ago, that's. 206 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 4: The first time I'd ever heard someone say that he's 207 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 4: a greater part of my future than my past. And 208 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 4: I can't tell you how many times and how many 209 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 4: people that's the one people say they don't know what 210 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 4: to say during loss. That's literally the only thing I 211 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 4: tell people for years, and I think I heard it 212 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 4: from Stephen Kurst Chapman, A much greater part of your 213 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 4: future than your past, which is like the first time 214 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 4: I ever heard it changed my life completely that perspective. 215 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So, Tim, when they told you how first off, 216 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: how much of the movie is in alignment with the truth, 217 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: did you really find out your wife was pregnant right 218 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: shortly after you were diagnosed? 219 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 6: No, So when my wife and I, I think we 220 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 6: were married three years and three ish years, and that's 221 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 6: when I was diagnosed. And so the first year we're like, 222 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 6: I said, Babe, I don't know, should we even have kids. 223 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 2: She's like, We're going to live as though you're going 224 00:12:58,960 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 2: to be healed. 225 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 6: And so that was that first year that was that 226 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 6: first year, and then I wasn't heeled and I was 227 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 6: in surgeries and it just was not awesome. And my 228 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 6: wife had a big wrestling match with God, just a 229 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 6: ginormous wrestling match with God. 230 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: Clearly she won. 231 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 6: You're here, Yeah, well yeah, I don't know how it worked, 232 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 6: but she is a more beautiful person on the other 233 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 6: side of that. And to see who that woman is 234 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 6: and who we are together, it is beautiful that God 235 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 6: can handle our big questions and our strong words. 236 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, really, really, really grateful. 237 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 6: And we've got four kids now, four teenagers, who are 238 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 6: all kind of similar ages to Bart's kids, and so 239 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 6: you know that they didn't have enough characters to put 240 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 6: in the movie, but our kids are all kind of 241 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 6: the similar ages and really good friends, and it's really 242 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 6: fun to do this together with them. 243 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: That is awesome. 244 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 4: I was going to tell you the best way to 245 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 4: described the movie when they ask is that so they'll 246 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 4: interview me, the interview Shannon and Tim and Hillary, my 247 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 4: son Sam, and they'll hear all these amazing moments in 248 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 4: their lives, and so I always say, it's like they're 249 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 4: taking the greatest hits of what has happened our lives, 250 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 4: and they're creating a timeline to where every true event 251 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 4: can exist within a reasonable hour to two hours. And 252 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 4: so like when Tim, you know, like, somebody goes, did 253 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 4: Tim collapse on tour? I was like, yes, he did 254 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 4: collapse on tour, but it wasn't our tour. But this 255 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 4: is one of part of the amazing stories where he 256 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 4: had to stop. And the point of that part of 257 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 4: the movie is that his sickness overtook him and he 258 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 4: couldn't finish. That thing happened, but it didn't happen, you 259 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 4: know what I mean. So they're all trying to compress 260 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 4: this stuff. So like Tim's kids are pretty close to 261 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 4: my kid's age at least our middle and youngest ones. 262 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 4: But in here it looks like I always wondering when 263 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 4: somebody watches the credits to the end, it's like Bart 264 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 4: had five kids, Tim had none, but the family pictures 265 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 4: are identical. Yeah, Tim gave Berth to an eight year old. 266 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, don't worry about it. 267 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: So Bart, when we first met, it was shortly before 268 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: or after your son's diagnosis is type one diabetes. 269 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 3: Yeah he was o four, So yeah, you were struggling. 270 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: Clearly, you didn't let anyone else know how you were struggling. 271 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: You wear a very good mask, and I think that 272 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: is shown in both movies, just how well you mask 273 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: what's really going on. Have you dropped the mask yet? 274 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: Has your wife got you to leave them at home? 275 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 4: Or that's a great question that haven't been asked before. 276 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 4: A lot of people have watched the movies that know 277 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 4: me but don't know me, you know, really really well, 278 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 4: I guess because it's kind of and they're like, man, 279 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 4: I don't know if I like the movie because you 280 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 4: look so angry and it's funny. It never bothered me 281 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 4: because that's kind of how I really was. But if 282 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 4: you saw me from the outside, I'm the happy, go lucky, 283 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 4: all shucks kid or whatever. And so I just did 284 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 4: a good job of hiding it. 285 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 3: But I was kind of for the movie. 286 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 4: I was glad that it kind of portrayed how hard 287 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 4: it actually was, you know, the way we are with 288 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 4: our families and the people close to us, you know, 289 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 4: And and so I was. I was glad they did that. 290 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 4: But when you say, am I wearing the mask anymore? 291 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 4: I don't think I'm wearing it as much, which you know, 292 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not the center of attention in a room. 293 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 4: I don't want to say that as if now I'm 294 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 4: just unhappy everywhere. 295 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: It's great, but. 296 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 3: I'm not trying as hard. 297 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 4: Tim could probably answer better than me, because he's been 298 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 4: a part of my life so long. But you know, 299 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 4: I've said that people pulled at me long enough that 300 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 4: I've become an introvert. And I don't know if that's 301 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 4: I think you may have actually unlocked something, because I 302 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 4: think that I'm just able to not wear that mask 303 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 4: anymore to wear, you know, the introverts just kind of 304 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 4: allowed to leave the house sometimes and just be myself, 305 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 4: if that makes sense. So I don't think I wear 306 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 4: it as much as I used to. 307 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: You used to a lot, and you did a really 308 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: good job in the movie Show Up and your wife. 309 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: God bless you, man, dude, you are so lucky I've 310 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: met your wife. She is gorgeous from the inside out. 311 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: Yes she is, Yes she is as somebody who is 312 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: struggling to deal with other people's anger. How she put 313 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: up with you and loved you that fiercely. A lot 314 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: of women, you know, don't feel safe because of violence 315 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: or whatever. The kind of unsafe we feel when our 316 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: partners our husbands are angry. Isn't like we're afraid you're 317 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: going to hit us or anything like that. It's just 318 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: that we don't feel safe being vulnerable, being present, being honest, 319 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: because we know we're going to get stonewalled or gas 320 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: lit or ignored or you know how she loved you 321 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: that fiercely and walked you through that, that's a miracle. 322 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 4: It's an active it's an ongoing mirror. Well, like I've 323 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 4: always said, as far as if there was a book 324 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 4: about me, I feel like Shannon's either finished the book 325 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 4: already or she's about five chapters ahead of me, and 326 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 4: just she's like she knows. I swear she knows that 327 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 4: I'm going to end up somewhere that I don't even know, 328 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 4: because her patience is like I've seen the ending. It's 329 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 4: going to be fine, and she's always been that way. 330 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 4: It doesn't make any sense, but she's locked in and 331 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 4: I love it. 332 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: What a gift. So between the two of you, nine kids. 333 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, carry the floor. 334 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: Yeah that's right, yep, yep, you got a long way 335 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: to go to catch up. Dudes. 336 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 4: Well, I have bragged on you more than most and 337 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 4: I hope I'm getting it right. But remember when I 338 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 4: think you did something in the double wards. We went 339 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 4: to dinner, went to a restaurant. I think we said 340 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 4: hi to radio people, but we got to spend time 341 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 4: with you there and we were talking and at some 342 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 4: point you were talking about how many kids end up 343 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 4: aging out of like the foster care system or whatever. 344 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 4: And I don't know how many you've adopted. I remember, 345 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 4: I'll never forget it. You said, twelve at at a 346 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 4: later age, right before they age out correct. 347 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: Some of them. 348 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just remember. 349 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 4: And it may have been like something you were going 350 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 4: through at the moment, but I remember you saying, and 351 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 4: people forget about them when they get to a certain age. 352 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 4: You're like, if I could just give them a place 353 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 4: to call home for the holidays, or just could call 354 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 4: and I need to come back and reset here. And 355 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 4: I've never forgotten like that's and sadly I've never met 356 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 4: many people that do that, But that thought that you 357 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 4: may they may have been seventeen or whatever and about 358 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 4: to age out, and the fact that now they have 359 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 4: a home, they have a family, and that is the 360 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 4: most beautiful thing. 361 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: I'm like, Wow, God, I am so blessed. Yeah, so 362 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: incredibly blessed. 363 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, forget imagine three when we do in the reality 364 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 4: show Totally Totally that starts seeing man kidding me. 365 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I love I can only imagine too. It 366 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: was beautiful. It was really really well done, and thank you. 367 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: The actors that played everybody did a fabulous job. The 368 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: young man that played your son Bart. 369 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, Sammy dal he's so good. He's a rising star man, 370 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 4: He's something else. 371 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: You know the game you played in the movie twenty questions. 372 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you both a really hard question. 373 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: In the movie, it shows that you both have really 374 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: jerky senses of humor. 375 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 2: M Bart does for sure continue. 376 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: Knowing you Bart, I know that to be very true. 377 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,959 Speaker 1: Here's my twenty questions. Tim, you get to go first. 378 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: What is the jerkiest thing you have ever done as 379 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:51,719 Speaker 1: a joke pulled on someone you love in real life? 380 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 5: Oh? 381 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: Gosh, most are just enterprise. I can't share them. Yeah, 382 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 2: that's the problem. 383 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: This is twenty questions on the Delilah. Yeah, brought to 384 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: you by only I can only imagine two. Tim Timmans's 385 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: jerkiest thing practical joke that was not funny at all 386 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: to anybody except to you, because you were cracking yourself 387 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: up at your jerkiness. 388 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 4: It's every joke he does to me is not funny 389 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 4: to me and only to him. 390 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 2: It's like, just pick one. 391 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 4: I'll tell you one for like, there's not there's not 392 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 4: and they're not even jerky moves other than the fact 393 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 4: that he knows what makes me crawl out of my skin. 394 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 4: And so when he walks up and talks a complete 395 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 4: stranger when I'm with him, you know, I have the 396 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 4: fear that we're going to get beat up, and it's 397 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 4: it's so, it's not, it's just stuff. 398 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: Like So you have social anxiety, is what you just 399 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: confessed a little bit you just confessed to me by 400 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: Millard that part of your masking is because you have 401 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: social anxiety, and if you're not in control of the 402 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: social interaction, you get nervous. 403 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 4: But you know what, it explains control, Like I don't 404 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 4: mind attention on stage because we're in control of that thing, 405 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 4: like they're here to see us, that's fine, but just 406 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 4: the unwanted attention, like if somebody says, hey, are you 407 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 4: baring a mall? 408 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 3: Like it's it. I'm like, I'm polite and super kind. 409 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 3: I'm not rude. I'm just like, ah, this is It's 410 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 3: like imposter syndrome. 411 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 4: It's like I'm not razorbar Lire, but like Timbill do 412 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 4: stuff like We're a red light in a car and 413 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 4: I'm talking about something and there's this lady standing next 414 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 4: to talking to lady in parking lot right by our 415 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 4: car at the red light. They're about to get in 416 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 4: their car. She's holding a milkshake machine in her arms, 417 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 4: and in the middle of talking, Timrols went it down. 418 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 3: He's like, hey, hey, is that a Hamilton Beach. 419 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 4: Whatever shake make or whatever? And she looks at him, 420 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,479 Speaker 4: looked at him, and I thought, what is he doing. 421 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 4: We're gonna get killed. They're gonna call the cops. And 422 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 4: she's like, I guess. He goes I have been looking 423 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 4: for one forever and just starts this ongoing conversation looking past. 424 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 4: I'm in between the two, which made it awkward for me. 425 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 4: He's yelling past me to get to her and the 426 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 4: end and everybody ends up loving Tim Like I'm like, 427 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 4: have you ever been beat up? Has anyone ever taken 428 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 4: a swing at you? And I don't think it has, 429 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 4: Like and it feels like if I ever tried that, 430 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 4: somebody call the cops on me and he wins every time, 431 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 4: but I stay uncomfortable. 432 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: Okay, So Tim, do you do that just to make 433 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,959 Speaker 1: him uncomfortable or do you do that just because you 434 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: actually saw the milkshake machine and you have interesting I. 435 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 6: Don't care about that milkshake. I don't care about the 436 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 6: milkshake machine. I would I would try. It's just something 437 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 6: that I know that we'll laugh at at some point 438 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 6: and somehow it breaks down walls. But it's just to him, 439 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 6: it's just like too much fun, and I just think 440 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 6: it's a funny thing to do. It's a funny bit 441 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 6: to like reach out to submarandom person. So I don't 442 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 6: do them for myself, that's for thing. 443 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: Sure. All right, now, Bart your turn. What is the 444 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: jerky thing you have done to Tim? The exploding toilet 445 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: on the bus was funny in the movie. 446 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 5: I gotta say, yeah, yeah, I mean that the bus 447 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 5: thing is more like tour prank stuff, like on every 448 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 5: tour there's generally in the past it's been this big 449 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 5: thing like you tour, you prank somebody on the tour 450 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 5: like every and we'll kind of prank each other but 451 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 5: I don't feel like a jerky. 452 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 4: The only problem is even if I try, you can't. 453 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 4: I can't topple Tim like nothing. Nothing makes Tim uncomfortable, Delilah, nothing. 454 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: Oh, Tim, you and I can hang too, There's. 455 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 4: No question, Like I can't. I could think, well I 456 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 4: tried this, Nope, he made it worse and made me 457 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 4: feel uncomfortable. 458 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 2: I can't do it. 459 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: We have the perfect dynamic here, Tim, you and I. 460 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to get your number and we're going to 461 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: have some fun. 462 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, we should go bowling for sure. 463 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: How many years Tim, have you guys been friends? 464 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 2: I think since eleven, so do the math. 465 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty eleven. I think when we first met it. 466 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, so probably fifteen ish years. 467 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: Oh, thank you for I can only imagine two. Thank 468 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: you for you two for being transparent. One more miracle. 469 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you because Tim, your story resonated with 470 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: me so much, because I have a little girl who's 471 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: now not a little girl. She's seventeen, a junior in 472 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: high school and has her first boyfriend. 473 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 2: I know her. 474 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: When she was three, I was in Africa and holding her. 475 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: She was, you know, in my arms asleep. Wake up 476 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: the next morning and she couldn't walk. She went from 477 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: a normal, healthy, typical, chatty three year old to being 478 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: completely paralyzed on our left side. And if you've ever 479 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: been to West Africa, not a lot of medical services there. 480 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 1: So we took her to the hospital that does have 481 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,719 Speaker 1: some like European doctors or American doctors or not that 482 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,239 Speaker 1: West African doctors are not great. They just don't have 483 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: the resources, you know. That the US team spring and 484 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: they thought she had had a stroke, or that she 485 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: had a brain aneurysm, you know, something like that. And 486 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: there is a doctor out of Rockford, Illinois, doctor Bob Farmer, 487 00:25:55,359 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: who I called, and doctor Bob died with a disease 488 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: called miasthenia gravis. So we went to the doctor's there 489 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: and they said, yes, possibly, but there's tests that we 490 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: just can't give her here. We don't have, you know, 491 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: the test. So I was able to get her a 492 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: medical visa, get her to the United States, get her seen, 493 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: and she was diagnosed with something called miosthenia gravis, which 494 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: is usually terminal within seven years of diagnosis. The doctor 495 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: that she saw, doctor al Matine, had never seen it 496 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: in a child that young, and he said, she's got 497 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: it bad and here's what we can do. And she 498 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: is going to not one, but two winter formals in 499 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: the next two weeks with her bow. And she's a cheerleader, 500 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: she was on the basketball team. She's going to go 501 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: out for track. She is fourteen years post diagnosis and 502 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,239 Speaker 1: does have some side effects, some residual problems from it. 503 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: But unless you knew, you would never know. And last 504 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 1: time she went in to be tested, they said she 505 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: is in complete remission and we can't understand it, but 506 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 1: we praise God for it. 507 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, today's the gift. Huh. 508 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: Today is a gift, the precious present. What a gift, 509 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: you know. I couldn't have any of these incredible conversations 510 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: without my sponsors. I'm so glad to get to share 511 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: all that Mercy Ships is doing in the world with you. 512 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: They travel to medical deserts, providing free, life changing surgeries 513 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: to people in need. Led by an all volunteer crew. 514 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: They've been putting their faith into action for almost fifty years. 515 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 1: Mercy Ships is all about impact. They performed nearly one 516 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty thousand free surgeries to date and touched 517 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: more than two million lives. But more than the numbers 518 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: It's about dreams restored and lives renewed. It's about loving someone. 519 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: You can be a part of this amazing organization. When 520 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: you support Mercyships, you experience the joy and transformation a 521 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: mother seeing her child for the first time, a child 522 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: finally able to run and play and dream and just. 523 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 2: Be a kid. 524 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: Visit mercyships dot org to give or learn about the 525 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: other ways you can get involved. That's mercyships dot org. 526 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: So are we hoping that everybody that goes to see 527 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: the movie will start doing the cross on their wrist 528 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: and being grateful for this gift? 529 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? I literally start it's an ex for me. 530 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 6: It's an ex so you can write whatever you want 531 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 6: the extra for the Christ years ago and I just 532 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 6: it was my own little thing. I started fifteen twenty 533 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 6: years ago. And yeah, I think whatever somebody want, I mean, 534 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 6: changed the watch to the other wrist, or write an 535 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 6: exit your wrist, or wear a hat backwards or something 536 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 6: that would remind you just that I woke up again. Jesus, 537 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 6: you woke me up again today and I'm just going 538 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 6: to join you today. 539 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 2: So what do you have? 540 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 6: Like that kind of posture is the hope for me 541 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 6: that just from my role in the movie, that people 542 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 6: would be encouraged and excited to go What would that 543 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 6: look like if I just put that into practice, just 544 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 6: joining Jesus during my. 545 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: Day and having that gratitude. 546 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 6: We get good to what we practice. And I think 547 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 6: that tattoo. I love tattoos, But for me, this is 548 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 6: just like, no, you got another one. Yeah, And I 549 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 6: mean even for you know, Barton Shannon, you know you 550 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 6: said earlier like cancers is a pretty intense thing to 551 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 6: check out there. But their journey is you know, we've 552 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 6: walked with them through their journey, which has been really difficult. 553 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 6: I mean, it's just night after night trying to figure 554 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 6: out how do we keep our son alive, how do 555 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 6: we help him do this stuff. 556 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 2: It's just we're all. 557 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 6: Going through such hard things, and that gift of holding 558 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 6: grief and holding gratitude and trying to hold them together, 559 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 6: it's just so profound. 560 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 4: So yeah, it's been amazing just in the screenings that 561 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 4: we've been a part of so far. You know, like 562 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 4: I had a preconceived notion of Okay, it's a father 563 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 4: son story, you know, I you know, and. 564 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: It's a best friend's story. 565 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 4: Well, it's I kind of thought I knew the feedback 566 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 4: I would get. What I didn't see coming was the 567 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 4: amount of people, not just with diabetics, but with any 568 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 4: kind of chronic illness. It's kind of scary how much 569 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 4: I've heard people say, you know what, there's this voice 570 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 4: in my head that told me it could be worse. 571 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 4: And so I don't feel like I should ever be 572 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 4: able to complain or just say it's hard or you know, 573 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 4: I'm having one of those days because it's not cancer, 574 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 4: it could be worse or whatever. And and and then 575 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 4: I had I've had moms with their diabetic kids say 576 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 4: you know, I feel like I was seen and heard 577 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 4: in this. I had a woman with rheumatory arthritis going 578 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 4: it could be worse, but I'm just sitting there sobbing, 579 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 4: because you know, the chronic illnesses just chip away so 580 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 4: slowly and just and it never goes away. The one 581 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 4: that killed me, it was so beautiful, was a mom 582 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 4: that she had her daughter who has Down syndrome, and 583 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 4: her daughter's the mom's older, the daughter's clearly an adult, 584 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 4: and she's like, I wouldn't trade trade anything for the world. 585 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 4: I adore her, But I have those days when I 586 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 4: mourn that she won't get married or that, you know, 587 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 4: are the things that every mom dreams of their daughter. 588 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 2: She goes. 589 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 4: I mourned some days that she'll never leave my house, 590 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 4: and she goes, and she goes, she goes. I'm not 591 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 4: saying I don't want it, but I have those days 592 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 4: where I have to go in my closet and scream 593 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 4: at a pillow, and because it's so hard, and with 594 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 4: tears and her daughter embracing her the whole time she's talking, 595 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 4: she's like, I just, I just I felt heard, you know, 596 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 4: and that you know, sometimes we talk. The enemy tells 597 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 4: us you don't have her right to have her complain 598 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 4: or say it's hard because there's somebody it's always worse. 599 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 4: I didn't see that coming, and so it's been overwhelming 600 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 4: the response we've gotten from people like that. 601 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: Well, yes, yes, yes, and yes I felt all those 602 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: things watching it. Yeah, there's so many good elements. The 603 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: love stories between the two husbands and their very patient, supportive, 604 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: incredibly loving wives, which I know in real life. You 605 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: both have the story between two best friends, the story 606 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: tim Abu stepping up and loving your friend's son when 607 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: he wasn't being seen and heard the way he needed 608 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: to be, and loving your friend when he was being 609 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: a hard head and angry and jerk. 610 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 2: Really keep going, really. 611 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: Just past the thorns. There's like a hundred love stories 612 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: all wrapped up in one sweet movie. So and good 613 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: music to boot thanks. 614 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 2: We get to do that. 615 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 6: Such an honor for us to get to write songs 616 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 6: that like our prayers and how other people get to 617 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 6: praym to It's so cool. 618 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: Well, thank you, thank you, Love you guys. I can 619 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: only imagine two hits theaters on February twentieth. It's a 620 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: powerful film with an incredible message of retaining hope through 621 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: the storms of life, illustrating the beauty of holding grief 622 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: in one hand, gratitude in the other, and walking through 623 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: the fire. It's a great film for family viewing. I 624 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: got a sneak peek and I did watch it with 625 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: my kids and they loved it. Learn more about the 626 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: film and watch the trailer at I can Only Imagine 627 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: dot com. It even has its own social media presence 628 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: at I can Only Imagine Movie on Facebook and Instagram. 629 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: Bart and Tim are incredible role models for all of us. 630 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: As a solo artist, Bart received a Grammy nomination for 631 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: himmed Again, the follow up to his successful solo debut, Hymned. 632 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: He's also been honored multiple times as the gas I'm 633 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: A Songwriter of the Year. He and his wife Shannon 634 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: live in Tennessee along with their five children. Their book 635 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: Even If Trusting God Through the Fire was released earlier 636 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: this month. Please go pick up a copy. Please, it 637 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: will bless you. After fifteen years leading worship in Orange County, California, 638 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 1: Tim also now makes his home with his wife, Hillary 639 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: and therefore children in Tennessee. He tours full time carrying 640 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: a message forged in the fire of his own battle 641 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:36,439 Speaker 1: with what the doctor said was incurable cancer. Six years ago, 642 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: he founded the nonprofit ten Thousand Minutes, with the weekly 643 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: podcast inspiring people to practice Jesus in all ten thousand 644 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 1: minutes of their week, not just the eighty they spend 645 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: in church. He's the author of the forthcoming book Waking 646 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: Up Again, a Journey of Grief and Gratitude, on shelves 647 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 1: next month, and if you don't already have it on 648 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: your music library, you need to get Mercy Mee's twelfth 649 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: studio album, Wonder and Awe, that came out this summer. 650 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,760 Speaker 1: Spring is coming, my friends, Spring is almost tear. Stay warm, 651 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: stay hopeful, and stay tuned to the Delilah Show, where 652 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: we will help each other through the storms of life.