WEBVTT - More Conversations about Rappers (RIP Drakeo) 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:07.000 Pete Dog was heading in shore Man just out here 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:09.920 in the safe haven. You know, is anybody still alive 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:13.560 in California? Are you guys even in California? Don't liberal 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:16.040 me to death? Man? Come on with all that liberal jargon. 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:20.800 What little jargon. Every time I go on social media, 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:23.239 one of my friends posted about how their favorite rapper this, 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:28.840 you know that's happen. That's because like rapping today is 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:32.680 like just being a human being, and everybody's a rapper, 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:38.040 everybody's an actress, everybody something. So what I'm saying that 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:40.640 it always seems like that. But I guess a couple 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:42.400 of years ago it was from Florida dudes that were 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:45.159 getting knocked off out here too. I forgot about that 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:48.920 still right now. Yeah, and they're making whole rap songs 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:52.880 talk about them. Who I smoke? Little Lonnie and Niggas 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:57.080 was singing it. I was like, bro, what the fuck? 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:00.200 But it's it's funny because that is because I'm in 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:04.720 a narrative. The narrative is definitely becoming like, oh man, um, 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:07.520 it's tough being a rapper. And we talked about this, 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:12.280 you know, when Dolf got kill al right, p doff. Yeah, 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:16.160 I didn't really get to dig deep into the concept 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:19.320 of what's really going on, you know what I mean, 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:22.520 And it's not in hip hop. It's what's going on 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:26.640 with human beings that come from our background period. It's 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:30.959 getting worse and worse, and people are in such a 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:34.240 weird space of not being able to to generate a 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:38.000 truly livable wage or economics for themselves. You know what 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:42.240 I'm saying, That reputation is being over value like social currency, 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:45.400 just like they had the metaverse. Social currency is starting 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:48.080 to play a huge part in our community. It was 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:51.520 already a big deal, right reputation, but now it's like 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:56.360 they want the same reputation online, asked a regular nerdy kid, 0:01:56.400 --> 0:02:00.520 who was, you know, only committed to the metaverse. So 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:08.480 they're doing metaverse banging and real banging. Mm hmm, so um, 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:10.960 I think again. I don't want to get caught up 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:14.760 in any time a human being los their life, you know, 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:18.399 it's a sad occasion for that person's mother, father, children, 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:22.040 what I'm saying for for certain people. But that don't 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.600 mean that people don't put themselves in a position to 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:28.600 be at war where from in the city. I don't 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:32.520 know what about him so and that's this. This has 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:35.960 been disputed. Like I didn't know him, I knew his movement, 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:37.880 and I was a fan of his movement probably since 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:43.000 two thousand and fifteen, sixteen. Um, I've noticed he's always 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:46.640 pushed thirty second in Naomi. That was the Naomi is 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:50.600 on the east Side. It's like thirties thirty thirty blood 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:53.440 thirty problems. I think they're Bloodstone game thirty. It's like 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:57.880 a thirties game. But then other people say he has 0:02:57.960 --> 0:02:59.960 some kind of affiliation who grew up in the hundreds. 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:02.440 But I've heard so many different things. But I noticed 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:05.560 he always flashed asign thirty second of Naomi. So I'm 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:09.400 gonna stay with that one. But if I understand correctly, Um, 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:11.959 he was in like placement homes. I know, stupid Young 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:14.320 made him in a placement him in a placement home. 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:22.920 Young situation is unique because like he was a really 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:26.959 talented dude, like um, he reminded me of a younger 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:33.359 e forty, complete with his own cultural lingo. And I'm 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:38.000 saying complete with his own style. Everything about him was 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:42.440 like culture, like concentrate. You could water some of that 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:44.880 ship down, and a lot of rappers did water his 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:48.280 style down and and used it. I'm saying it served 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:50.640 it to the people as fresh juice. But there was 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.200 so much Draco and a lot of new dude style. 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:56.120 To me, the most too influential dudes of this whole 0:03:56.800 --> 0:04:01.200 last decade movement is one take J and Draco like 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:04.360 so many guys wrapped like one take J. So many 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:10.640 guys wrapped like Draco, yash so um Draco situation is 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:16.159 a little unique because again it's it is like um dogs, 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:19.800 where we saw so many things happening right where we 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:22.680 you know, he's fighting a murder over some situation that 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:26.640 happened with somethingbody else and come home, you know what 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:28.479 I mean. He's still kind of on that energy and 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:31.440 he on twilve. I mean he's still going hard and 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:34.800 going hard, and you know, eventually it just catches up. 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:37.320 You know, everything catches up. So you're either gonna end up, 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:40.120 you know, hurt. You know you're gonna end up in prison, 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:43.240 I mean for hurting somebody else. Yeah, give us a 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:46.920 little comparing contrasts for I don't say and mine as 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:50.040 to some of the nuances. One of the nuances, I mean, 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:55.360 there's there's more than nuanced, but like comparing contrasts to 0:04:55.480 --> 0:05:01.400 the other recent passing like a slim four hundred. So again, 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:07.240 no seilings, g L. This is our fifty second episode. 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:10.840 That's kind of like a one year episode. There's our 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:15.840 one year episode, right, Pete in the spot. I got 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:21.000 my manager producer at the podcast friend big Brother still 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:22.720 in the spot. He ain't gonna be doing too much 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:24.400 talking because he don't know about hip hop like this 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:27.160 no more. I'm here, I'm gonna see I'm gonna teach 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:34.760 you something. Christ for the new generation. So um it 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:37.839 was it was like his situation is a bit different 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:41.159 than slam slam situation. The street says a bit more 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:45.760 like like like like personal mm hmm, I mean where 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:50.000 if you look at that situation, it was really fucked up. 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:55.520 I mean like yeah, it's no, it's no, it's no 0:05:55.839 --> 0:06:00.840 um concrete details. In the streets. There's only ideals, and 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:03.640 one ideal is sticking. And I believe that idea is true, 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:08.159 but I'm not confident enough in it to tell and 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:11.400 say this is what happened. But it'll come out. It 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:16.160 always does. Draco situation is a lot like Doll situation, 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:18.440 where he was in a in a in a in 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:22.360 a public feud, right that started off with a rapper 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:28.960 but ended up against the streets. So initially it was 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:32.800 r J initially, but that was a while ago, and 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:36.120 r J kind of had a you know broker the 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:38.800 peace you know, extended the olive branch, were piste off 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:41.160 people in the streets. But I remember that happened, did 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:45.320 it a line um? Outside of that, he had consistent 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:50.560 conflicts with other rappers, but nothing I think that was serious, 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:53.640 crazy crazy series, not as definitely a series as of 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:56.440 stuff Doll had going on with the rappers or what 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:59.960 happened was he had a few going on with people 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:03.600 in the streets. And this is the exact opposite. Like 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:08.039 my homie asked me, did hip hop fail Draco like 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:10.520 it failed off? And I'm like, well, it's different because 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:14.440 people who he began feuding with, right, the rappers is 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:17.400 a certain situation. But then when you start talking about 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:20.680 other gangs, other people from cities, all kind of ship, yo, 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:23.720 it's different because it ain't really no conversation at that point. 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:26.680 You got a bunch of people who really don't have 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:29.280 a ton of opportunities and they ain't looking at nothing 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:35.200 but proving a point so it's tough. But I don't 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:38.160 even want to really trip off that because rest in 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:39.840 peace to Draco. You know, I mean one of the 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:41.560 Cody Sneakers to do it from the land on this 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:45.560 underground tip. But I want to focus on the rap fans. 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:51.200 That's something I think hip hop right is getting a 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:54.000 beat down. Rappers are getting a beat down, but in 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:57.280 the reality, it's the fans who are fueling it all 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:02.240 and nobody's talking about it. And I mean, dating back 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:06.640 to when that whole Warren Shiraq was happening, the fans 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:13.720 are pushing it. It's like we all see the plane crashing, right, 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:17.120 we all see the plane coming all the way down right, 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:19.720 We're watching it right, and we see it's going to 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:23.200 the earth right, and we're just talking about it, you know, 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:25.960 we are now and we're telling other people until the 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:29.800 plane crash. And once the plane crash, then the people 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:34.320 who follow the culture are in the outrage. Well you 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:39.120 know what the problem me us bro is the Internet 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:42.400 has allowed fandom and amenity to just go to a 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:45.920 whole another level. Because when I was coming up, if 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:47.959 we saw the only way we saw our favorite rapper 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.720 Bro was on a music video or if we went 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:52.560 to one of those concerts and even then, you know, 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:55.160 music videos just wasn't pop popping like that. You know 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:58.320 what I mean, You understand what I'm saying. So it's 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:02.600 almost like the average fan that day doesn't look like 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:04.840 the rapper, like he's a real person. It's almost like 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:07.440 their carriage of just at first, and they're looking at 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:10.360 their life and their lifestyle and everything. So it's like 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:13.480 then watching the movie. Bro, do you think that that's 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:17.000 different now than then, because like when you have more 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:21.200 interactive access you see and more exposure, it would let 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:24.160 that you would be less sensationalized that if you have 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:30.880 limited access and limited exposure, well, it's almost an overexposure now. 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:34.000 And I said this, man, when um, I said this, 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.360 when people first start doing lives, you know, when they 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:38.920 first started giving people the ability to go live online, 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:41.920 I said, man, somebody's gonna kill somebody on the internet 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:45.120 one day. I remember you saying that, but I said 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:47.080 that back then. I said, somebody's gonna wind up killing 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:50.520 somebody because fandom is just at all time and they 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:52.880 don't look at us as um as real people. They 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:55.480 don't think. But but I'm also let me let me, 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:58.800 cut you, big, bro, because it's important. Right back when 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:03.600 I was younger, it was only so many rappers. Now 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:07.240 what's happening is the streaming era. Me and my homie 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:10.599 was talking about it. But the streaming era has created 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:15.600 like this whole middle class of rappers, middle class right 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:21.080 where it's hundreds of rappers, thousands of rappers, but there's 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:25.320 so many successful rappers right that you never heard of. 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.440 You could be from l A and never hear of 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:30.720 rappers or making a hundred two hundred thousand dollars a year. 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:33.120 Like I'm talking to mc tin and MATC didn't know 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:36.480 who Draco he was, Like who? And I'm like he 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:40.120 didn't know who he was what I'm saying, And Draco 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:43.120 was doing pretty well for himself. He probably easily was, 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:47.320 you know, uh two hundred to a quarter to three 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.679 hundred dollar artists you know a year, like he was 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:55.200 getting some money. But streaming has created a place that's 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:57.880 really dope, and it sence that it can create a 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:02.000 career for you, you know. But also I think it's 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:06.520 not great because rappers don't have to really push themselves 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:08.760 to be the greatest they can. Like when I talked 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:11.120 to a lot of producers, they're not pushing to have 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:17.280 the best record in the country like Dre Cat warren Cue, 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:20.000 you know, all the producers quick they were pushing that 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:22.840 had the greatest records in the game. Because truly, that's 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:24.960 really how you made a living, that's how you ate. 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:28.520 But now you just get a base, you know, an 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:32.040 audience of people that identify with your movement, right, and 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.640 it really don't matter how good or bad your music 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:37.280 is long as they feel like we're part of this movement. 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:41.080 And so everybody is getting paid or something that still 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:44.719 don't talk about right with his movements, your woment. So 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:49.160 people are paying for the movement. So the fans are 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:52.880 this is like an out what I'm saying that this 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:55.960 isn't out from their regular life. They're a part. People 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:58.440 feel like they're part of a gang. Like what's funny 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:02.719 is I was looking at the comments. You know they 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:05.200 had to fight where you can see the fight unfolding 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:08.320 between you know, the dudes and Draco's team, and the 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:11.800 fight is unfolded and I'm watching the fight. You know, 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:14.240 the other guys are deep and it's more like real 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:17.640 vet street vets, like you could tell these are people 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:20.719 who really are familiar, not to mention, they have the 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:24.640 numbers advantage, so they're trying to fight them. They're all 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:26.760 trying to fight them. The guys that's with Draco, they're 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:29.680 trying their best to fight them, but in real life 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:35.320 they were so outnumbered and kind of like outdug. So 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:38.559 they're fighting going backwards, getting dropped, person get dropped. They rushed. 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:42.280 They fighting them back. So everybody's backing up their whole team, 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:44.960 but they start to back up in two different directions. 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:49.040 One guy, so the guys that's with Draco is backing up, 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:53.160 you know straight. The other guys are backing up kind 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:56.160 of in a h an angle. They're backing up towards 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:59.880 the gate, but they're both fighting. Nobody turned around and ran. 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:03.679 They were like holding their ground, but you know the 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:07.400 other guys were advancing consistently. And I watched people in 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:10.839 the comments like, oh, they left Draco. They left him, 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:14.760 and I'm like, no, they didn't see That's what I mean. Man. 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:17.720 It's almost like these people think they're playing Grand Theft 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:19.720 Auto or some ship. It's like this is real ship. 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:23.120 And it's funny because Draco has a really dope song 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.640 called Grand theft auto that you said that, but that's 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:29.960 what they really think. They really are. It's a joke 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:32.840 to them because it's not in their real life. But 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:37.960 what irritates me is when something finally happens bad right, 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:40.199 or they're like, oh, we need to change the car, 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:43.520 Oh look it, what's going on? Blah blah blah. It's like, Bro, 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:48.480 the plane been diving. The plane has been diving for 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:51.559 a while, and they finally hit the ground. You know 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:53.960 what I mean? You never you know, it's not enough 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:56.920 of the fans telling people, hey, pulled the plane up. 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:01.200 Hey stop. I'm about to say that probably gonna seem 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:05.040 pretty controversy or though, man, but I sell them look 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:07.520 at the comments. But when I do, you don't have 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:10.120 the most intellectual base of people that just sit online 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:17.080 and consume some of this stuff that controversial. No, but 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.920 but but let me finish though, Bro, I'm not saying 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.360 that just every person that looks online as an idiot. 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:24.760 But if you've got somebody that's spending their whole day 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.920 on this ship following somebody's exploits, man, and they ain't 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:29.720 got no job or no other ship to do. They 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:32.120 just sitting there watching this ship something's wrong with that, bro. 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.680 But but think about it, like they can go to 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:38.200 work for eight hours a day. It could be a 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:42.000 motherfucker that work at Walmen, right, and that's the thing. 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:45.720 But they're part of Draco's movement, right, the stinct team 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:47.680 in their mind. They and they. It was crazy, is 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:52.560 these fans are getting these tattools, they hashtagging in their bio, 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:56.560 they're putting their profile names, like it's like those clowns 0:14:56.960 --> 0:15:07.760 we talked about the other day, which clowns. Then I'm 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:13.280 not calling them like a bunch of clowns like the closessional. Yeah, 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:17.240 so yeah, everybody's cultivating a following, right, So it's people. 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:20.680 It's people who don't even know these guys and be like, yeah, 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:23.240 you know, we're like their their hashtag sting team in 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:28.200 their bio, like and they're like in the metaverse virtually, 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:31.640 they're part of the movement. They're supporting it. They got 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:35.400 the shirts, they got the beanies, they go to the concerts, 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:38.440 and they're part of this movement. So they really feel 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:42.000 like they have a main stay in the conversation. So 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:44.840 I'm reading people in the comments like y'all he left him. 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:48.080 They left him and I'm like, no, dog like, they 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:52.240 just were outdone. Nobody they listened. They could have turned 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:57.120 around and ran. They were trying to, but they were 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:59.880 outduged and they were outnumbered. And you know what I'm saying, 0:15:59.880 --> 0:16:02.520 this how I go down? This This is normal for me. 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:05.880 This ain't like crazy. This is a normal episode that 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:10.280 happens like that. Well I had speaking speaking of fights, 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:13.080 it was a couple of fights up there rolling loud. 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:15.960 Yeah I heard, but I actually got to see the 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:18.840 video footage of that one fight. Yeah, but that ship 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:21.840 you can't see no faces. Yeah, but somebody whoever was 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:23.560 there was getting the ship kicked out of them. Well 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:26.400 feel they asked and put on them. I don't know 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:28.000 who it was because I couldn't see none that. I 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:30.480 couldn't tell you who it was. They just put some 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:32.320 But that's the thing with the internet. They could put 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:34.160 some ship out at some random people fighting and say 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:39.520 it was anybody. I mean, I have no issues, what have? 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:43.560 What have? What a good fist to cover? And to me, 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:45.680 like people was asking me my opinion on it, right, 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:47.640 certain homies from O the town was calling me is 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.400 asking my opinion, and this is my opinion on a 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:52.680 lot of the dudes coming up that I was watching, right, 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:55.520 So one is they don't really have an O G 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:59.040 around them to give them wisdoms. I mean, they don't 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:01.440 have a ton of like I kept my O G 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:05.040 homies on speed down or around me. So even if 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:06.960 I wasn't around pluck a Moon at the time, I 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:09.959 had Kiki local around me. I had wisdom around me 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:16.919 to counter my young ignorance. I'm saying, my young wild ways. Um, 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:19.960 they don't have that, right. That's one too. A lot 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:23.240 of the dudes coming up saying that they streak one 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:26.119 thing about gangs in l A. You know the culture 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:28.480 in l A. And this is everywhere. Honestly, I ain't 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:30.600 gonna even just say gangs in l A, but I'm 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:35.320 familiar with this. Here is it's all of these. It's 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:38.440 it's like a land and a map of nation. They're 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:41.760 all different nations, they all have different beliefs, creates. Some 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:46.560 things are uniform, but most things are individualized depending on 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:49.400 which nation you at. Like right, you in my hood, 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:51.600 you in my nation? Right a hundred of seventeen street 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:54.080 washed crypt It's a different creed than when you cross 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:57.520 Imperial and you and p J. Watts. It's a completely 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:01.679 different thing. Sure, in theory, were of both crips, and 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:04.080 that's what the fans get. They understand they're both crips. 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:06.959 But what they don't understand is that is no bond. 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:11.000 That bond has been broken, you know, since you know, 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:13.399 the sixties and the eight trade started clashing, or the 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:16.000 East Coast is and the Hoovers started clashing. So you 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:19.280 start talking about something that's been broken for roughly, you 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:24.400 know what, forty years. So the fans kind of start 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:27.520 to voice their opinion and ignorance, and I get it, 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:30.439 you know what I mean. That's part of being a 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:32.280 part of this metaverse, you know what I'm saying, being 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:34.960 a part of social media where and that's why the 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:38.280 internet is so dangerous though, too, bro, that's will make 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:40.760 it great and dangerous. Well, you know because like you 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:42.600 know what I seriously thought when you put two pack 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:45.160 mus die out up. I wasn't worried about nobody from 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:46.879 the industry. I was worried about one of these fans 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:49.679 because this motherfucker's to take that ship so serious. You 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:53.840 know who said the same thing that iced tea. That's 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:55.479 what I was worried about. I was worried about. I 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:58.600 wasn't worried about no, because rappers have since. Ain't nobody 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:00.480 go go to jail behind those fun a song? You 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:01.760 know what I mean, Let's keep it real, get the 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:04.480 funk out of here. Ain't nobody going to jail. But 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:07.120 you understand what I'm saying. For the most part, Dog, 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:09.600 It's like you may get into a fight with somebody, 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:11.920 but I don't think nobody could come and just lose 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:13.960 all they got going in their life because you seeing 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:16.399 something upset, They're gonna lose their life. They ain't gonna 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:18.600 take minds. So but I get what you're saying. So, 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:22.520 but listen, it was weird with the fans. And and 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:24.919 this is what I realized when I was making that 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:28.040 song right. And I realized that, and you know me 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:31.399 still like we have a ton of marketing conversations about records. 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:33.640 We're about to put out a record next year that's 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:36.760 gonna push your heart rate up, you know, time to 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:39.040 put you don't already prepare me for. I already know 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:43.199 what I'm gonna do, right, But what I realized was 0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:46.560 coming into making that song right and from a marketing perspective, 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:51.639 was like when I grew up. POC was ours. He 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:56.360 belonged to us, the culture, Like, I'm a real pop fan. 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:59.440 All these people ain't. Really, I'm a real pop fan. 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:03.120 Like I had his first CD, his last CD. I 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:06.600 literally grew up listening to his music. His music raised 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:09.159 me to be the man that I am by conscious 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:11.919 as part of things even still in me. There's so 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:15.399 many different concepts. But what I realized was and it 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:20.840 was important pop had became such a mainstream figure. That's 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:24.359 the catch. Hip hop is all about the upside down. 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:29.320 If you saw um Stranger Things. Stranger Things is about 0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:35.280 these kids in the eighties and a scientist or the 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:38.880 government accidentally open up or they were trying to open 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:41.600 up another dimension that was parallel to the one that 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:44.040 we was there. Yeah, my wife was really into that show. 0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:47.639 That's my ship, right, So hip hop is the upside down. 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:51.920 Hip hop the upside down is Compton is Watts regular. 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:56.760 You know, it's more, it's more Lakewoods, right, the city 0:20:56.760 --> 0:21:01.560 of Lakewoods. Then there is competence across America. Yeah, for sure. 0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:03.439 I was actually gonna bring up a point of like 0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:09.679 you talked about kind of the streaming sector of the 0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:13.640 industry now and how it's expanded the volume of content creators. 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:18.399 So there's now it's basically a preamble so to speak 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:22.840 to what crypto bitcoin is trying to do. With the 0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:26.720 quote unquote democratization of the tech sector. You see that 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:29.359 happen in music where you can where you don't have 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:32.959 to be the top one percent of performers or at 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:35.520 least the most one percent marketle performers to get onto 0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:37.480 one of four or five labels that's going to give 0:21:37.480 --> 0:21:40.320 you all the money you can exists in the space 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:43.440 in between. But also when you see the same time frame, 0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:47.800 is that like the geography of at least a lot 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:52.760 of the communities like Black America that would define the 0:21:52.760 --> 0:21:56.159 culture of hip hop has changed. Also like it's not 0:21:56.240 --> 0:21:59.560 so concentrated in inner cities, like that's been democratized. Until 0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:01.800 you see a at the end of the Empire semi suburb, 0:22:01.880 --> 0:22:05.760 studo suburbs to Bay l A, Phoenix, Miami. And that's 0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:10.560 what I'm saying, though, that's not hip hop. It's becoming 0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:15.720 rap is going mainstream. There's a lot of us and 0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:21.040 pleasant it's nothing wrong with rap going mainstream. There's nothing 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:25.240 wrong with rap going mainstream. And you know, I see 0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:29.040 a lot of really successful mainstream rappers. Hip hop is 0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:31.520 still very much what it is. It's very much a 0:22:31.520 --> 0:22:35.560 preview into a parallel universe that is not seen all 0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:39.000 over mainstream, even if it's a popular opinion of very 0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:44.200 few from these same streets. So I think the fans again, right, 0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:47.600 they become part of these communities in theory, right, Like 0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:50.600 if you talk to like if you ask most fans 0:22:50.680 --> 0:22:53.440 of Chicago, you know hip hop or the drill scene, right, 0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:57.960 what's the uh the little apartment complex that they always 0:22:57.960 --> 0:23:03.119 talk about they have, like this super popular apartment complex 0:23:03.160 --> 0:23:06.200 that Dirt in Him is from, and Van is from 0:23:06.200 --> 0:23:11.640 from Chicago Midway. I don't know what part of I've 0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:13.840 never been there, you know, I'm saying, I've never been there. 0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:16.200 I've never even heard of it until that came out. 0:23:16.880 --> 0:23:23.040 Oh Block, Ok. Again, you gotta realize the people who 0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:27.280 are real fans of Little Dirt, who are fans of 0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:30.760