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<v Speaker 1>the Son of a Witch podcast time your host Claude Harmon.

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<v Speaker 1>It is US Open week, the third major of the

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<v Speaker 1>year at Pinehurst. I've been on site all week and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to be an interesting one. I think

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<v Speaker 1>every time the US Open comes to Pinehurst, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a very very unique golf course and I think there

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of different I think there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different ways to play the golf course. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of different strategies to employ. I think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of it's going to be player dependent, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think everybody is going to be trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out how is the best way to get around this

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<v Speaker 1>golf course. It's I mean, it's midweek and the greens

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<v Speaker 1>are lightning already and they've had a little bit of rain.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not massively massively firm, but they are very very fast,

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<v Speaker 1>and there just isn't a lot of usable area on

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these putting surfaces. I'll give you a

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<v Speaker 1>great example, so the that's I mean on the front nine,

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<v Speaker 1>I think two of the greens that stand out, or

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<v Speaker 1>the second green and the fifth green, And some of

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<v Speaker 1>these greens look look very very big on TV. They

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<v Speaker 1>they'll look very big in the telecast, but there's very

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<v Speaker 1>little usable area on the greens, first of all, where

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<v Speaker 1>they can pins. So if you look at the fifth green,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a par five, it's a very it's a

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<v Speaker 1>big green. There's a lot of space out there. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a big, big putting surface, but there's really only a

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<v Speaker 1>small part of the green that that it can put

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<v Speaker 1>the pin positions on. And if the balls start rolling

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<v Speaker 1>off the greens, which they are designed and tend to

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<v Speaker 1>do here at Pinehurst, you're going to struggle. We were

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<v Speaker 1>out today Brooks and DJ played with Phil Mickelson. Phil

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<v Speaker 1>came so close here in ninety nine and I got

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of pick Phil's brain and talk to him about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of what he thinks about the golf course,

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<v Speaker 1>what he thinks about how to play the golf course.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the big differences is they really have changed

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<v Speaker 1>the areas off the fairways. They've planted a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>fescue grass, and they're kind of in a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>really clumpy pieces of grass. So DJ today one of

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<v Speaker 1>the holes in the background was of fourteen hit the

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<v Speaker 1>golf ball maybe a yard and a half left of

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<v Speaker 1>the fairway and it nestled down right behind a giant

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<v Speaker 1>clump of fescue. He somehow managed to get it on

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<v Speaker 1>the putting service, but it could have gone anywhere, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's less than it wasn't even two paces from the fairway.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that the strategy off the tee is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be very important, and I think which strategy

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<v Speaker 1>the players employ will kind of define I think this

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<v Speaker 1>US Open. I saw Victor Hovelin's press conference day VIC

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<v Speaker 1>saying he's going to try and be very aggressive off

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<v Speaker 1>the tee with driver so that he has shorter irons

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<v Speaker 1>in his hands and then can be way more conservative

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<v Speaker 1>with the shorter I think that's a really good strategy

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<v Speaker 1>unless you spray the driver. If you spray the driver,

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<v Speaker 1>you just don't know what you're going to get. So

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<v Speaker 1>if the driver goes offline, you're looking at any possibility.

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<v Speaker 1>You look at the possibility of making a par you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the possibility of bogie, or you're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>some very very big numbers. And that was the interesting

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<v Speaker 1>thing in talking to Phil about the way he kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thinks about this golf course. He said it takes

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of discipline, and what he meant by that was,

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<v Speaker 1>if you do hit it offline, how aggressive are you

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<v Speaker 1>on the next shot, because you could have only if

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<v Speaker 1>you bomb one off the tee and it misses the fairway,

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<v Speaker 1>you could have a much shorter club in your hand.

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<v Speaker 1>But Bill was saying that he thinks the strategy and

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<v Speaker 1>the mind games that this course plays is Okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>missed the fairway. You've got a short club in your hand,

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<v Speaker 1>and you think, okay, well, let's say I'm only one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty yards one hundred fifty yards away. It's

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<v Speaker 1>probably going to be a wedge. Maybe for a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these long hitters, and they're going to say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>do I need to be aggressive here and try and

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<v Speaker 1>get this on. The problem is if you miss the green, left, right,

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<v Speaker 1>or over the green, it's very very difficult to get

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<v Speaker 1>those up and down. It's very difficult to make pars

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<v Speaker 1>from there. So what Phil was saying was he likes

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<v Speaker 1>the strategy of if you get in trouble off the tee,

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<v Speaker 1>then lay it up short. And he was thinking, and

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to a lot of the players. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>so far this way you can score from the front

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<v Speaker 1>of these greens. You can. It's very difficult to score left,

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<v Speaker 1>right or long. So the play if you are going

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<v Speaker 1>to miss a fair way is lay it up short.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you can run it up a lot of these slopes.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I said, if you miss these greens left

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<v Speaker 1>and right or long, I mean sometimes you can be dead.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean sometimes you're staring at you know, double triple

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<v Speaker 1>quad by just missing the green. Because depending on where

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<v Speaker 1>they put the pin positions, you could miss the green

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<v Speaker 1>to left, to the right, over the green and basically

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<v Speaker 1>have no shot. Try and hit a great chip. But

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<v Speaker 1>the slopes here, the speed of these greens or are

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<v Speaker 1>so fast that you could hit it over the green

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<v Speaker 1>and then hit it all the way off the front edge.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're on the left side of the of the

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<v Speaker 1>green and miss it, you could chip it up to

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<v Speaker 1>certain pin positions and it could run all the way

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<v Speaker 1>over to the other side. So I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the strategy this week will be how disciplined can

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<v Speaker 1>you be off the tee, and then how disciplined can

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<v Speaker 1>you be if you miss the fairway, Because I think

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<v Speaker 1>the winners here tend to be the guys that drive

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<v Speaker 1>the golf ball the best. They tend to be the

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<v Speaker 1>players that hit a lot of fairways. If you get

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<v Speaker 1>the ball and play, then you can somewhat be I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you can be aggressive, but you can

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat try and take advantage of a good drive. I

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<v Speaker 1>think good shots this week you were going to see

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of really good quality iron shots that if

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<v Speaker 1>you can get them pin high left, pin high right,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty feet, twenty five feet, sometimes thirty feet. Sometimes just

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<v Speaker 1>getting the iron shot that you've got to stay on

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<v Speaker 1>the green is going to be a good shot. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is very much a USGA US Open

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<v Speaker 1>style of golf course this golf course is going to

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<v Speaker 1>play very, very different than the last major we saw

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<v Speaker 1>at Valhalla, where it was soft, it was very easy,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody was shooting low, everybody was having good rounds. I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't think we're going to see that. So depending

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<v Speaker 1>on the way they set the golf course up. I

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<v Speaker 1>asked you a couple of the players, if they gave

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<v Speaker 1>you a score and said, okay, right now, you could

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<v Speaker 1>not tee it up, what score would you take, not

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<v Speaker 1>even teeing it up and take your chances? And I

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<v Speaker 1>heard anywhere between even par to one under to two under.

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<v Speaker 1>But you just don't know. I mean, somebody could go

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<v Speaker 1>out and just light it up and shoot you four

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<v Speaker 1>five six under. And I could also see even par

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<v Speaker 1>one over, maybe two over. I could see that winning.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think we could see some gaps between where

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<v Speaker 1>the leader is and then where the guy in second

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<v Speaker 1>and the guy in third is. We saw that in

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen when Martin Kimer won here. There was a big

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<v Speaker 1>gap between what Martin was doing and then what the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the field was doing. So I think strategy

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<v Speaker 1>has been vital in the practice grounds. The players and

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<v Speaker 1>their caddies are all talking about okay, how far up

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<v Speaker 1>do we want to push our drive? Do I need

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<v Speaker 1>to hit drive here? And then what are the consequences?

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<v Speaker 1>What is the risk reward of smashing driver? But if

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<v Speaker 1>you miss it at all, you just don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to get. You could get a decent lie,

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<v Speaker 1>you could get a very very sandy lie, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you could get a lie where you're struggling to advance it.

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<v Speaker 1>You might have to chip it back sideways, you might

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<v Speaker 1>have to go backwards. So I do think the buzzword

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<v Speaker 1>for this week for every player is disciplined. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that the USGA and the US Opens like to

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<v Speaker 1>test the player's minds as much as they like to

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<v Speaker 1>test the players golf swings and technique. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that is the fascinating thing about the venues that they

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<v Speaker 1>choose for US Opens. I think that's the fascinating thing

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<v Speaker 1>about the way the USGA sets up these golf courses.

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<v Speaker 1>without limits. In looking at the interaction between the players

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<v Speaker 1>and the caddies, there's a lot of conversations on the

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<v Speaker 1>tea box. Okay, what are we doing here? How far

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<v Speaker 1>up do we want to push this? Can we just

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<v Speaker 1>hit the fairway here? Hit an iron off the tee.

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<v Speaker 1>In Brooks's case, Brooks and in his caddy Ricky Elliott

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<v Speaker 1>Brooks has got that driving Nike. It's a driving iron,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a three iron. He can probably hit that to

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<v Speaker 1>forty to two fifty in the air. So Brooks is,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, is going to hit a lot of I

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<v Speaker 1>mean his driving iron off the tee. He's going to

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<v Speaker 1>hit some three woods off the tee. He is going

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<v Speaker 1>to hit driver And I think the longer hitters do

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<v Speaker 1>have an advantage here, but they only have an advantage

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<v Speaker 1>here if they hit the fairway. If they don't hit

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<v Speaker 1>the fairway, it's it's it's crapshoot. You just don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what you're going to get. Who are the favorites this week?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, wow, you would think that this is a

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<v Speaker 1>ball striker's golf course. You have to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>control the flight of your golf ball, the curve of

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<v Speaker 1>your golf ball, control the trajectory, control the spin. Ricky Eleduo,

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<v Speaker 1>caddy's for Brooks, Keka said he bought that you have

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<v Speaker 1>to play this course through the middle of the greens

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<v Speaker 1>because if you're trying to come in on angles, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was something that I heard a number of players say,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to hit a lot of straight shots here

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<v Speaker 1>because the way the slopes are the way the runoff

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<v Speaker 1>areas are. If you overdraw that. If your drawer of

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<v Speaker 1>the golf ball, you're right handed and you overdraw it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to go left and then go further left

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<v Speaker 1>down these slopes. Does it go down into the runoff

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<v Speaker 1>area or does it keep going and go all the

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<v Speaker 1>way down into where these fescue bushes have been planted?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you on hard pan? DJ had a drive on.

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<v Speaker 1>They started on the tenth hole today, par five. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a little into the breeze and he just said, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no real reward for me trying to go there,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get there in two. So he tried to

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<v Speaker 1>lay it up, blocked it just a little bit. It

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<v Speaker 1>was there's a bunker to the right of the first

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<v Speaker 1>or right of the tenth green, and he wasn't in

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<v Speaker 1>the bunker. He was kind of on the top of

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<v Speaker 1>the right side of it. And it was basically as

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<v Speaker 1>hard as a cart path. It was like concrete. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's the other thing is some of the areas around

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<v Speaker 1>these greens they're baked out. It's warm here. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think we're going to get a ton of rain. So

0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.400
<v Speaker 1>this golf course is going to play very very firm.

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<v Speaker 1>This golf course is going to play very very bouncy,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we are in for a four day

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<v Speaker 1>USGA US Open kind of war of attrition. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have the game to manage this golf course,

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<v Speaker 1>but do you have the mental side to manage the misses?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you are going to hit the players here this week.

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<v Speaker 1>They will hit bad shots, they will hit bad drives,

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<v Speaker 1>they will hit bad approach shots. It's what you do

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<v Speaker 1>when you hit a bad one. I think that is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be what how the whoever holds the trophy

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday, in my opinion, is going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>player that manages their game the best. So who are

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<v Speaker 1>the who are the favorites? I mean, you gotta think

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<v Speaker 1>Xanderschoffle is a favorite. Is just coming off winning his

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<v Speaker 1>first major championship. Scotti Scheffler. I saw Scotty and his

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<v Speaker 1>Kattie Teddy Scott on Tuesday. They were just walking around

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<v Speaker 1>the front nine with just a bunch of club and

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<v Speaker 1>a putter, so they weren't even hitting any t shots

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<v Speaker 1>or iron shots. They were just going out and going

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<v Speaker 1>directly to all of the green complexes and then having

0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:15.800
<v Speaker 1>balls kind of run off and then go play them.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think Scotty's strategy. Listen, it's not even close.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the best player in the game right now. He

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<v Speaker 1>has the most confident of any player. He's coming in

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<v Speaker 1>here off another win at Memorial, which is a very

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<v Speaker 1>very difficult golf course, but it's a completely different setup.

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<v Speaker 1>But the other thing that I think is always going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a question at US Opens and the US

0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Open venues is the setup. How fast does the usj

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<v Speaker 1>want to get these greens? Wyndham Clark was saying on

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday night or Tuesday in his press conference that already

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<v Speaker 1>the greens were borderline. Are they going to put water

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<v Speaker 1>on them? Are they going to let them bake out?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the USGA likes they like even par.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't have a problem if even par wins major championships.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of people that like that style

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<v Speaker 1>of golf. They don't want to see a birdie fest.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't want to see ten, twelve, thirteen under win majors.

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<v Speaker 1>They want the test to be tough. Listen, this test

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<v Speaker 1>is tough. I think a lot of these greens and

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<v Speaker 1>they have been redesigned, but the green complexes. The original

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<v Speaker 1>green complexes were never designed to be at the speeds

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<v Speaker 1>that the modern day golfers and the modern day setups

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<v Speaker 1>set up. They just weren't. These greens were originally designed

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<v Speaker 1>when they would roll six, seven, maybe eight on the stemp.

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<v Speaker 1>If these things get over ten eleven, we are going

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<v Speaker 1>to see some carnage. The other thing is with how

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<v Speaker 1>much back and forth. I think there will be around

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<v Speaker 1>these greens where you'll see players mis agree. They'll be

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<v Speaker 1>down in a runoff area if they've short sighted themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>They know that if they if they hit the golf

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<v Speaker 1>ball too far, it could run off the other side,

0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:13.920
<v Speaker 1>or run down the front, or run down the back.

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<v Speaker 1>So do they try and get quick or try and

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<v Speaker 1>get cute and not judge how far they hit it?

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<v Speaker 1>And I do think we are going to see players

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<v Speaker 1>chipping around these greens and get it on the putting

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<v Speaker 1>surface and then it's going to roll up. A good

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<v Speaker 1>example is the fifth Green, the par five. The pin

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<v Speaker 1>on Tuesday in the practice round was kind of front

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<v Speaker 1>ish to the right. I saw some players lay it

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<v Speaker 1>up over on the right hand side, chip it up,

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<v Speaker 1>not chip it far enough, and then it basically went sideways,

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<v Speaker 1>did a big loop, went sideways, went all the way

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<v Speaker 1>down the left side, down into the bunker. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>some players chip, some that didn't get up to the flag,

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<v Speaker 1>same thing, rolled all the way up, then started to

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<v Speaker 1>come back down on the left hand side, missed the bunker,

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<v Speaker 1>rolled all the way down to the runoff areas, got

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<v Speaker 1>behind a bush and they're staring on a par five

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<v Speaker 1>where you're trying to make up ground here. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there isn't a lot of There aren't a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>birdie chances here, right. That's that's something that all of

0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:30.520
<v Speaker 1>these players are going to have to deal with. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the hard holes out here, the ones to watch

0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:40.440
<v Speaker 1>are going to be two six eight, eleven, sixteen. If

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<v Speaker 1>you could somehow for the week play those five holes

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<v Speaker 1>and even or one under for the week, you are

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<v Speaker 1>going to pick up maybe a stroke and a half,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe two strokes against the field. So everyone out here

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<v Speaker 1>knows what the hard hole are, they know what the

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<v Speaker 1>test is, and they know where they're going to need

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<v Speaker 1>to try and just hang on. I think every us

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<v Speaker 1>OPENED and the USGA likes this, right. They love a

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<v Speaker 1>very very difficult test, and they love hard holes, and

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<v Speaker 1>they know that everyone knows kind of what the hard

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<v Speaker 1>holes are. So, like I said, I think on the

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<v Speaker 1>when we look at the hardest hole, I think one

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<v Speaker 1>of the hardest holes is going to be the sixth hole.

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<v Speaker 1>I think sixteen is going to be a very very

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<v Speaker 1>difficult hole. The second hole, based off of that green

0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:52.080
<v Speaker 1>complex is difficult. Eight is no bargain. Eleven the second

0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:55.000
<v Speaker 1>hole on the back nine Again, you get out of

0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:59.720
<v Speaker 1>position there and you're really really going to struggle. The

0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:04.120
<v Speaker 1>only two fives on this golf course are five and ten.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. Those are the only two real legit birdie

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<v Speaker 1>chances I think you're going to have. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of it is just you hang on. You just

0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:20.960
<v Speaker 1>try and get it to the house. Uh. Seventeen today,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the par three, five irons, four irons for

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<v Speaker 1>some of these guys. And yeah, that's well in excess

0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:34.920
<v Speaker 1>of two fifteen to two twenty. And DJ hit a

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<v Speaker 1>shot today in the practice round, hammered a four iron

0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:43.920
<v Speaker 1>thirty feet left of the flag, just barely stayed on

0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:47.600
<v Speaker 1>the green, didn't go down into the left green side bunker.

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<v Speaker 1>We got up there and we're thinking, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>very very good golf shot under these conditions. Now, the

0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:57.560
<v Speaker 1>best players in the world don't think thirty feet is

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<v Speaker 1>a good shot. They just don't. But us opens sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>pin high, or sometimes anywhere on these greens, twenty to

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<v Speaker 1>I think this week is a lot about managing the expectations.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the rounds are going to take forever. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think we're going to finish. I think there. I

0:22:02.080 --> 0:22:05.480
<v Speaker 1>don't think people will finish on On I certainly don't

0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:08.360
<v Speaker 1>think people are going to finish Thursday. The field's too

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<v Speaker 1>big and the golf course is just too difficult. You

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<v Speaker 1>are going to see guys playing hockey, ping pong around

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<v Speaker 1>these greens. You know, miss a green, try and go

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<v Speaker 1>for it, run it over the other side of the green,

0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:23.399
<v Speaker 1>and we're going to see some big numbers and the

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<v Speaker 1>pace of playof I think we're looking at in excess

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<v Speaker 1>of five hours. I think we could get into six

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<v Speaker 1>hour rounds this week because the test is just so difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what the USGA wants. They want this to be

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<v Speaker 1>the toughest test possible. What does Rory McRoy do this week?

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<v Speaker 1>He's saying that he's never felt better. He's saying that

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<v Speaker 1>he's never had a better opportunity, he's never been more

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<v Speaker 1>ready to win his fifth major. And we've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>it on the pod before. I think it's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>shocking to me given how great a player Rory McElroy is.

0:23:05.320 --> 0:23:07.560
<v Speaker 1>He's hitting on the range today, he was hitting balls

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<v Speaker 1>next to DJ and I mean it's hard not to

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<v Speaker 1>watch him, right, I mean, he's hitting balls. He's just

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<v Speaker 1>got everything. He's just so impressive as player. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I could see him win this week. I could see

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<v Speaker 1>him get his fifth major. But if he doesn't get

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<v Speaker 1>off to a good start he's I think That's been

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<v Speaker 1>one of the issues that Rory's had in trying to

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<v Speaker 1>win that elusive fifth major championship is sometimes in these

0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:44.520
<v Speaker 1>majors he doesn't get off to a fast start. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not a golf course. This, I'll say it again,

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<v Speaker 1>This is not a golf course you can play offense on.

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:53.440
<v Speaker 1>This is a golf course where you're trying to play defense,

0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:58.040
<v Speaker 1>and rarely are you going to get opportunities to play offense.

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<v Speaker 1>But the problem is, and I'll keep saying this, this

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<v Speaker 1>golf course, the setup, and what the USGA likes is

0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:08.359
<v Speaker 1>they like to have players play defense when they should

0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:12.040
<v Speaker 1>be playing offense. And they love them. They love them

0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:16.120
<v Speaker 1>to play offense when they know they should be playing defense.

0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:22.440
<v Speaker 1>And so great ball strikers, yeah, great ball strikers will

0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:26.240
<v Speaker 1>really really like this place. And if you are coming

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<v Speaker 1>into this tournament this week with a lot of really

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<v Speaker 1>really good form, I think you would think you would

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<v Speaker 1>have a chance. I do think that on golf courses

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<v Speaker 1>like this that are this difficult, where the test is

0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:47.359
<v Speaker 1>so penal if you miss shots, you could also see

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<v Speaker 1>not a household name leading on the leaderboard, go leading

0:24:53.160 --> 0:24:56.960
<v Speaker 1>on Thursday, not a superstar, not someone that anybody would

0:24:57.000 --> 0:25:01.320
<v Speaker 1>have picked in their fantasy. They could be leading because

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of ways, they just don't know anybody.

0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:06.199
<v Speaker 1>They don't know how hard the golf course is, so

0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 1>they're just firing at every flag and you could get lucky,

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<v Speaker 1>you could have a great ball striking week, play super

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:19.960
<v Speaker 1>super aggressive and if you're on, yeah, maybe you can

0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:24.080
<v Speaker 1>take advantage of it. But I think respecting this golf

0:25:24.080 --> 0:25:26.520
<v Speaker 1>course is something that's going to be very very important

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:33.720
<v Speaker 1>and strategy getting around here and thinking your way around here.

0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:36.800
<v Speaker 1>The other thing is with as long as the players

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be out on the golf course, As

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<v Speaker 1>I said, these are going to be very long rounds.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hot, it's dusty, it's lenxy, it's the ground is hard,

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<v Speaker 1>it's tough walk. You have to stay focused. You drop

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<v Speaker 1>your focus for one swing out here at Pinehurst this

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<v Speaker 1>week and you could be making double or triple. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think the winner this week is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a combination of really good ball striking. You're going to

0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:13.159
<v Speaker 1>get You're gonna need to get lucky. You're gonna need

0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:15.240
<v Speaker 1>to get some good breaks. You're going to need to

0:26:15.280 --> 0:26:18.200
<v Speaker 1>have some good fortune, you're going to need to get

0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:22.320
<v Speaker 1>out of jail free card and so we have seen

0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:24.520
<v Speaker 1>that in the past here. I think there's a very,

0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:27.760
<v Speaker 1>very rich history here at Pinehurst. There have been some

0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 1>great battles here, Phil Michelson and Payne Stewart in ninety nine.

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:37.960
<v Speaker 1>The golf course that Martin Kimer played here in twenty fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people at the end of that week

0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 1>thought what golf course was he's playing, because it certainly

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the golf course that everybody else was playing based

0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:49.960
<v Speaker 1>off of the score that he shot. A big time

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<v Speaker 1>US Open USGA type golf course, a big time US

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<v Speaker 1>Open USGA set up. And I have no idea who's win.

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea who's gonna be on the leaderboard.

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 1>But I think we are in for an exciting four days.

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<v Speaker 1>If you like really tough golf courses, if you like

0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 1>to see the best players in the world challenged basically

0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:19.080
<v Speaker 1>from the first t shot until the last put on eighteen,

0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna love this week because I think that's what

0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:25.040
<v Speaker 1>we're going to get. I do think Pinehurst at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of this week, Yes, the winner will be the star,

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:29.720
<v Speaker 1>but I think Pinehurst will also be one of the

0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 1>stars of the show here because it's a great golf course.

0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:36.639
<v Speaker 1>It's a great design, and it's a very cool golf course.

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 1>It looks cool. I think it'll look great on TV,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think gets your popcorn out because there will

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<v Speaker 1>be some carnage. There will be some unbelievable shots. There

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:49.040
<v Speaker 1>will be a lot of shots that a lot of

0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:52.440
<v Speaker 1>people watching will think that's not great, it's kind of mediocre.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you haven't been out here and haven't walked

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:59.040
<v Speaker 1>around and been inside the ropes and seen how difficult

0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 1>this test is, this is a tough one. And I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait to see who hoists the giant trophy on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>So buckle up, kids, because we're in for a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to thank everyone for listening, rate, review, subscribe

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