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Speaker 1: Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth about Sorority Life with

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Speaker 1: your hosts me Gia Judice.

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Speaker 2: Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Kessler.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to part two of our most restricted, most

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Speaker 3: guarded episode yet.

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Speaker 4: So settle in.

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Speaker 3: You're about to hear the part of the story that

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Speaker 3: no one was ever supposed to talk about.

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Speaker 1: So for my sorority initiation, it was something that I

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Speaker 1: had never thought was a big deal at all. There

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Speaker 1: was nothing to prepare for. In my eyes, it was

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Speaker 1: just on the calendar, and we had no acceptable excuses

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Speaker 1: for missing this event. And I do know that some

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Speaker 1: people missed and nothing happened to them. When people on

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Speaker 1: the board of my sorority would speak about things being

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Speaker 1: unexcusable or you can't miss, it just.

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Speaker 4: Felt like life or death.

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Speaker 1: Like if you couldn't make initiation, you were not going.

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Speaker 4: To see the next day.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why, I think ever since being in

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Speaker 1: the sorority, I just it was really fun in bubbles

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Speaker 1: and butterflies, until at times it felt very culty, which

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Speaker 1: this initiation that I did is what really made me

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Speaker 1: feel like it was very culty. Being a part of

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Speaker 1: a sorority. I feel like the school and the SORTI

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Speaker 1: that I was in was very chill and relaxed and

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Speaker 1: didn't really have that strict of rules. But then, you know,

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Speaker 1: for this initiation, I was reminded that it was a

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Speaker 1: sorority and that there's you know, alumni and boards with

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Speaker 1: people that are in their later ages that still create

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Speaker 1: the rules for sorority. So it was just kind of

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Speaker 1: like a realization moment for me for sure about like

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Speaker 1: what it means to be in a sorority. So our

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Speaker 1: sorority initiation was on a Sunday, and I can't remember

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Speaker 1: remember the timing of it, but I do remember they

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Speaker 1: kind of gave us a list of things that we

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Speaker 1: couldn't do the night before. We weren't allowed to go out,

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Speaker 1: So I think no one followed that because no one

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Speaker 1: really took it seriously, which ended up with some people

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Speaker 1: having a pretty bad hangover the next day. And so

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Speaker 1: essentially we were told to meet at the hotel of

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Speaker 1: the town that our college was at, which was very bizarre,

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Speaker 1: and we got there, we were instructed to wear nude

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Speaker 1: undergarments and no makeup, hair, down socks which completely sealed in,

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Speaker 1: like this is just weird. And so we arrived at

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Speaker 1: the hotel, which felt really bizarre because it was a

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Speaker 1: hotel that my family would day at for family weekend

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Speaker 1: or any time they came to visit. And we were

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Speaker 1: directed down to the basement of the hotel and it

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Speaker 1: was a pretty like old fashioned place, really cool, definitely

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Speaker 1: some ghost stories and people having weird stories from the

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Speaker 1: rooms of the hotel. So we go down to the

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Speaker 1: basement and it's just a room full of these white robes,

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Speaker 1: which I've talked to my friends at other schools and they,

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Speaker 1: you know, we were all kind of weirded out about it.

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Speaker 1: So we see all these robes, very weird, and then

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Speaker 1: what we were doing. We were kind of just following hands.

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Speaker 1: Everyone was just shuffling around trying to be quiet. Everyone

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Speaker 1: line waiting for us to walk in, so we all

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Speaker 1: sheepishly walked in and for the actual ceremony part, which

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Speaker 1: began with my president speaking in front of this designed,

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Speaker 1: sure if she was speaking English or Greek words, but

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Speaker 1: and I remember being really freaked out, kind of like

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Speaker 1: people were snickering around me. Everyone was kind of like

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Speaker 1: looking all around. And then something kind of unusual happened.

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Speaker 1: But a gal and my sorority had a service dog,

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Speaker 1: by us, which was cool, and then some people had

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Speaker 1: in on it. And then we finished. Everyone went outside

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Speaker 4: And we were all like, uh, during.

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Speaker 1: How much longer we were going to be a part

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Speaker 1: of sorority life? And then realized that the initiation part

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Speaker 1: that being in a sorority can be fun, except being

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Speaker 1: initiated is so weird. So that's my initiation story.

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Speaker 5: I was rushing in twenty twenty during COVID at a

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Speaker 5: pretty big school, and so going into it, I knew

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Speaker 5: I wanted to rush because everything was enclosure and I

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Speaker 5: wanted to meet new friends and girls obviously, so I remember,

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Speaker 5: at least during the summer meet going into it, I

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Speaker 5: wasn't really like keeping up with what the top sororities were,

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Speaker 5: what their reps were. I kind of was just going

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Speaker 5: with the flow. But I remember over the summer, like

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Speaker 5: the top sorority like followed me on Instagram, and I

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Speaker 5: didn't really think much of it, and at least now

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Speaker 5: looking back, I know that's like definitely not what you're

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Speaker 5: supposed to do, Like you're not supposed to interact with

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Speaker 4: So they started.

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Speaker 5: Following me, and they even like followed me on think

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Speaker 5: like Visco and that was like in my Instagram bio

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Speaker 5: at the time.

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Speaker 4: And so sign up for Rush.

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Speaker 5: Everything was like I said on Zoom during quarantine, which

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Speaker 5: in a way, looking back at it, I'm glad it

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Speaker 5: was that way because I don't think I could ever

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Speaker 5: do the twelve hours a day in heels and dresses.

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Speaker 5: But it was definitely interesting at least over Zoom did that.

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Speaker 5: And I remember like every time I would get called

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Speaker 5: back for said sorority that reached out to me on Instagram,

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Speaker 5: the President would always join the Zoom call, and.

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Speaker 4: That definitely like put me on edge.

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Speaker 5: For better or for worse, because if the president's listening

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Speaker 5: in on every time that you're joining the House, it

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Speaker 5: was clear that they wanted me to join. And so

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Speaker 5: I actually put said sorority as my second pref not

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Speaker 5: my first preth, and I got them, so I was

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Speaker 5: part of the sorority immediately. It was very forced, at

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Speaker 5: least with quarantine, it's kind of hard to make everything

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Speaker 5: But I remember one of our first Sisterhood events was

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Speaker 5: like a sleepover, so we didn't actually sleepover, which was

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Speaker 5: very contradictory to the name, but what the sleepover entailed

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Speaker 5: was we all sat in a giant circle upstairs and

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Speaker 5: And this was part of the I guess bonding and cleep.

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Speaker 5: In mind, we don't know any of anyone else in

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Speaker 5: I was like, I don't want to go to another

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Speaker 5: Sisterhood event. This was not only depressing, but don't really

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Speaker 5: I just didn't go. And my EXEC really did not

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Speaker 5: like that, which makes sense. My EXEC did not like

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Speaker 5: me because I didn't go to the sisterhood events or

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Speaker 5: the a lot of the exchange events. But This was

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Speaker 5: because also at the exchange events, we would sing.

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Speaker 4: Really really outrageous songs. I even have some of them.

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Speaker 4: I'm like saved.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if I can read them because it

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Speaker 5: does give away the name of the story. But we'd

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Speaker 5: seen these really raunchy songs essentially, and I was so

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Speaker 5: comfortable like singing the song, so it was basically like

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Speaker 5: we had to stand there and like sing it in

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Speaker 5: front of all these frat guys. So I didn't go

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Speaker 5: to any of the exchanges or much of the SISTERED events,

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Speaker 5: and I remember when I would go to the chapter meetings,

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Speaker 5: the rules would be boobs or butt, not both. And

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Speaker 5: You can't show nothing, but you can't show both. So

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Speaker 5: some girls would choose to flaunt their boobs and the

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Speaker 4: And immediately it just felt very.

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Speaker 5: Like sexualized and uncomfortable, and along with the fact that

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Speaker 5: essentially like the exec board who ares a year or

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Speaker 5: to these parties. And I remember one of the even

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Speaker 5: first chapter events is we don't call them frat boys,

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Speaker 5: we call them fraternity men. Like it was correcting our

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Speaker 5: verbiage on like the smallest things. Okay, So our initiation

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Speaker 5: ceremony was over zoom, and I remember it was like

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Speaker 5: during I want to say, like winter or Thanksgiving break.

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Speaker 4: So I was at home doing this break this.

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Speaker 5: Zoom from my room from home, and at least during

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Speaker 5: the initiation, you know, you have the candles, you have

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Speaker 5: the robes. That was all on zoom, so I'm pretty

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Speaker 5: sure it was just like a candle background and just

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Speaker 5: pressing through slideshows. And this actually is helping me remember

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Speaker 5: what the pref and bid process was. It was through

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Speaker 5: an email and like it was just congrats confetti across

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Speaker 5: didn't like meet anyone that was I didn't know anyone

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Speaker 5: in my pledge class until come the next year when

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Speaker 5: we did recruitment and I was on the other end.

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Speaker 4: We had to.

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Speaker 5: Stalk every girl come up with a list of like

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Speaker 5: top ones, middle ones that we wanted to recruit for

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Speaker 5: the sorority over the summer. So that definitely coincides with

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Speaker 5: at least my experience coming in as a freshman over

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Speaker 4: The sorority followed me, so they do. It's already like.

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Speaker 5: Curated, having a list of like their top choices, and

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Speaker 5: they would really go for girls like big following or

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Speaker 5: like girls that had a really good Instagram. It wasn't

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Speaker 5: necessarily based on like values obviously, because you can't really

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Speaker 5: depict someone's values from their Instagram.

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Speaker 4: So it was very materialistic and like two D in

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Speaker 5: It was very shallow, and I think that just goes

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Speaker 5: back to the fact that we all had to pass

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Speaker 5: around the stair until a sad story we could opt

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Speaker 5: to pass, but it there was literally like max five passes.

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure.

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Speaker 6: Okay, from what I remember of my initiation ceremony story,

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Speaker 6: it was a long time ago, but I remember we

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Speaker 6: spent the night at the sorority house. Kind of everybody

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Speaker 3: To initiate us. But the one thing I actually really

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Speaker 6: For our big football game, and all of our friends

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Speaker 8: I had a choice. There were five sororities in my college,

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Speaker 8: I remember is we walked in. We had candles. It's

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Speaker 8: And they all sang the song, the main song, which

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Speaker 8: But I do remember the solemnness of it and the importance,

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Speaker 8: Still in my alumni group. We still have meetings, and

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Speaker 8: we sang the songs, and it was just joining a sisterhood,

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Speaker 8: a sisterhood that for me has lasted my whole life.

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Speaker 8: With different women and we've all been through the same

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Speaker 9: So what I do remember is they locked us all

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Speaker 9: It was like an overnight thing, and we had to

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Speaker 9: and then we learned the handshake, and then we kind

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Speaker 9: of like it was very somber and serious, and then

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Speaker 2: There you have it. Forget the theories, rumors, and speculation.

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Speaker 2: You now know what really happens when a pledge officially

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Speaker 2: joins the Sisterhood.

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Speaker 1: If you have a.

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Speaker 2: Story to share, let us know and we will ensure

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Speaker 2: you remain anonymous until next time. This is dirty rush.