WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, November 23 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:11.200 It is Monday, November. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:13.680 Happy Hour is brought to you by Jet Home Loans 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:17.439 and now a guy who believes turkeys are grown on 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:26.840 a poletree. J P. Sorry, you're stretching a little bit today, Joe, 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:29.560 Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour on this Monday, the day 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:33.040 after the loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers. It is Thanksgiving week. 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:36.440 We have a lot to be thankful for. My name's 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:39.879 j P. Shadrick, Pete Frisco, Tony Boselli coming up. We've 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:43.360 got a busy program. The Steelers Jaguars review. We'll see 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:48.479 what went wrong. Not a lot went right, especially for 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:52.600 Jake Luton. He struggled for interceptions against the Steelers defense yesterday. 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:55.560 We'll break all that down, the Jaguars defense walking wounded. 0:00:57.240 --> 0:00:59.280 We'll go around the FC South. We'll get to the 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:02.800 social media questions, which there were many today, and the 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:08.640 not so powerful draft order rankings, which has become unfortunately 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:11.039 a staple on the show. And we'll go around the 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:14.720 National Football League. Let's start with yesterday's game of Jack's 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:18.160 Baul seven three to the Steelers, the ninth consecutive loss, 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:21.200 tied for the longest losing streak in a single season 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:24.440 in franchise history. The only other time they did that 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:29.679 was Head coach Doug Marone not worried about himself. He's 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:33.240 worried about the players and coaches. At the end of day, 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:35.160 I'm gonna have to look in the mirror and say, Okay, 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:39.200 you know, have I done everything I possibly can? You know, 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:42.640 if I if I've exhausted every avenue, have I you know, 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:45.039 motivated to the best of my ability, If how I 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:48.160 kept everything together? And I'm not gonna say that's that 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:50.760 that that's a win. That's part of my job, that's 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:54.080 my responsibility, and that's when I take, um a lot 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:55.880 of pride in and I haven't been always been able 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:57.760 to do that. And you guys know about the past, 0:01:57.760 --> 0:01:59.720 so I haven't been able to keep that you know, 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:03.160 thing together at times. But um, you know, I feel 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:06.440 I feel like I owe these guys everything that I have. 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:09.840 That's just how I feel. Head coach Doug Marone. It's 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:13.520 a struggle right now. Pete Prisco, Tony Baselli joining us 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:18.639 on the program and to three now nine in a row. Guys, 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:21.960 what's up, Pete Tony? I am breaking news real quick, 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:24.679 just breaking news. We just we can actually change a 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:28.200 segment on the show. I have the Jaguars now lasting 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:37.000 the power ranking after they were third last week ago. 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:41.160 They're officially where are you happen in the league? That's 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:47.639 the question one. But you got your fingers crossed in 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:49.760 their thirty second by the time the wait, by the 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:55.720 time of the season, it's not pretty JP. And you 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.200 know every Monday we get on here and we say, oh, 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:00.680 we're gonna say the same old things again. Well, the 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:04.000 reality is that's what happens when your team is bad. 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:07.600 The question is is this the worst team in the 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:10.480 history of the Jacksonville Jaguars, And the answer to that 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:17.720 question is definitely yes. Well, here's an interesting stat Pete, 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:21.240 I guess I hate to say, back that up. During 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:25.760 this year, the average in the nine game losing streak UM. 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:28.960 JP mentioned that the last one was that was year 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:32.800 Gus Browdley got fired. The marginal defeat for this team 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:36.240 is I think fifteen and a half points. The marginal 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:40.160 defeat for that team was eight point three points. And 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:42.040 so a whole time they're getting beat by a whole 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:47.840 touchdown more UM then the last time this franchise had 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:51.200 a nine game losing streak. It's the worst team. There's 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:54.680 no way to sugarcoat it. It's by far the worst team. 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:58.960 And they're gonna be changes coming, And the question becomes 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:02.600 when do they come? Is there any reason at all 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:09.560 to make those changes right now? I don't. Thanks, thanks 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:13.600 be rough this week, right, I mean, come on, I mean, 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:17.880 here's my problem with that, is it's a good it's 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.720 a good question. I'm not going to answer it because 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:24.320 I'm not it's not my responsibility to fire people or 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:27.359 hire people, and I don't like firing people on the radio. 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:29.920 And I've gotten I've gotten on other people who have 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:34.200 fired people on the radio. Yeah, especially because it was 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:36.839 a little premature. Um with that, I think it's a 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:40.800 fair question because is there is there any doubt that 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:44.960 it's it's going to happen. No, I don't think there's 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:49.360 any doubt. I don't know how shot On can look 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:53.000 the fan base and the media and the National Football 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:55.320 League in the face and say we're gonna bring everybody back. 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:58.720 I don't see how you can do that. So, but 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:02.280 then the question becomes, if you wait until the end 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:06.800 of the season, is that a disadvantage or are you 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.720 hurting your franchise by doing that? We saw the Falcons 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:13.039 clean house, and does that help them at all? Are 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:16.000 they they already used these stories, They already have some 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:18.680 candidates in mind. But don't you already know who the 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:25.280 candidates are? I think the only thing that again if 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:28.800 based on what you said, so it's assuming you're correct 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:32.120 that everyone's getting, you know, cleaned out. I think the 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:36.080 only thing I'm doing it sooner than later. Not on 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:38.680 the coaching side, but if you're gonna clean house on 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.240 the personnel on the GM side as well, getting that 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:44.960 GM in place first so that that individual's ability to 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:48.039 go hire the head coach that he wants. And we 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:50.240 know how to work and we know how that works 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:53.400 right after if you fire a guy on on Monday 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:56.560 or after the season's over, you usually want that GM 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:59.080 hired within a week to get your coaching search going 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:02.000 right away. That's right, because coaching search and by the way, 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:04.839 you know, you gotta start working, you know, figure out 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.599 what you're doing in the draft, free agency, Senior Bowls 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:09.200 a couple of weeks, you know, only a couple of 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:11.560 weeks away. You know what's that gonna look like in 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:13.960 this COVID world, we don't even know. But there's a 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:17.080 lot of work to be done. Um, not just hiring 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.040 the coach, but also getting ready for the next year. 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:22.360 If you're that personnel person, if you're the GM. Yeah. 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:25.720 So I mean, look, those guys are smart. They've been 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:28.640 around the NFL a long time. They have to see 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:31.159 the handwriting on the wall. They have to know what's coming, 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:34.480 and I think they do. And it's like you said, Tony, 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:38.240 it's never fun to fire people, but you're hired in 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:42.720 that business to be fired. That's just the reality of it. 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.320 It's terrible, but that's the reality of it. Come on, 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:47.760 that's that's you. Name me a coach that doesn't get 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:54.479 fired rare, very rare. Well, it is rare, but it 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:57.400 still doesn't make it easy, especially around the holidays. We're 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:02.080 talking about it right now. I'm not I love. I 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:05.400 love to sit here and say, look, I respect all 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:07.760 the people that I've ever encountered inside that building from 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:12.240 a working standpoint, and Doug Morone, Dave call all of them. 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:14.760 I know them all. I've come to like them and 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:18.680 respect them. But they're not dumbies. They know they know 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:22.160 what this league is it's the results oriented league. Well, 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:24.480 it's not. It's just not. It is a result or 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:26.440 in your league, and you're gonna you know, you have 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:31.280 you've lost nine games in a row and and a 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:35.080 lot of those games haven't been closed. In the bigger concern, 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:40.040 I think outside of like, okay, the positives are you 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:43.520 have cap space and you have draft picks. But then 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:45.200 you say, okay, we have to make sure we use 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:49.920 that cap space in those draft picks wisely. Okay, what 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:52.720 give you the confidence that's gonna happen. Well, then you 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:54.520 just have to revert right back to the current roster. 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:59.880 Is this a good current roster? No? Okay, in the 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:03.520 in the and the job of the individuals led by 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:06.280 really Dave's job was to build this roster. And we 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:07.880 sit here right now with the youngest team in the 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:11.880 NFL and not overly talented, and at one and nine. 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:15.920 That doesn't mean there's not some good pieces right and there, 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:20.600 of course, but then the next guy who doesn't, if 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:22.240 Dave does get fired, the next guy who comes in 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:24.600 is going to have some young players that he can 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.720 kind of build around a little bit. The problem is 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:32.080 now it's starting to trickle up and you're starting to 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:36.480 hear criticism of the ownership group, and so that's when 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:41.360 it becomes yes and yesterday, what first I saw it 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:44.360 was a tweet this second fastest to a hundred losses 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:47.360 in the NFL as an owner? Is that right? Correct? 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:51.240 If you count the playoff loss? Yes, So that's when 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:54.640 now if you're Shot Khan and you're Tony Khan and 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:58.480 you start seeing that kind of criticism, now it's bleeding 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:02.840 up to you. It's gone from this to this and 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:04.839 now it's up to you. So now you're sitting in 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.320 a situation where you're going to be faced with hearing 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:10.680 endless stream of criticism. But don't you think that started 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.880 in JP? I love your perspective, cause you fault Twitter 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:17.520 and you're having good handle on the fans better than anybody. 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.240 But I think that started the last offseason, Pete, when 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:23.360 there wasn't a change maybe last year. I think that's 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:27.280 a good. Yeah, I think it is. Um. They took 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:30.320 a lot of criticism for that to keeping its status quo. 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:34.000 But but now, just but JP, don't you agree judgment 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.920 by Twitter and social media and everything, now that it's 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:42.920 it's elevated to a newer level. Above them to from 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:45.920 you know here it's just Moron Pahl. Well, now it's 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:49.040 gotten up to the to the con I think whether 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:51.719 that's right or whether that's right. I mean, ultimately, you're 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:54.840 the owner of the team. You're responsible for that. You 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:57.320 hire and fire who you want. Well, I think that 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:00.840 the hard part is right now, is it's not just 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:05.199 a another losing season, another season of you know, double 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:08.880 digit losses. There's not a lot of hope in the 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:12.080 fan basese I mean, and that's where you really start 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:15.240 getting worried. I mean, one, you look at the crowd 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:21.439 yesterday was Steeler fans um Two. I mean you listen. 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:23.440 I mean I hear it from people that I'm friends 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:25.959 would playing golf withoos and hang out in the community 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:27.560 with you. Here, it on talk radio, you hear it 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:31.120 on Twitter, you know, you hear it everywhere. There's not 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:34.880 even hope. It's not like the hope is like hopefully, 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:37.559 you know, changes are made and we get Trevor Trevor 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:41.719 Lawrence or Justin Fields. That's all anyone has to hang 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:44.040 on to you right now. It's not like they say, man, 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:47.520 we're hopeful because of the team we have and we 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:49.640 we see a pathway to get there, to be good. 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:53.400 And that's where you start getting really concerned because it's 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:57.000 about all the entire organization at that point. And and 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:00.360 to me, like, if that's the hope one d and 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:03.200 one guy, then is that a sense of false hope? 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:05.120 And you need a lot more than that. That's a 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:09.000 that's a nice piece, that's a big piece, But it's 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:13.120 not like you're gonna win next year. You get a 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:18.640 franchise quarterback, it cures your ills. Well, yes, And there's 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:23.240 a franchise quarterback in Cincinnati named Joe Burrow that everyone 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:25.800 felt good until his knee went sideways because they couldn't 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:29.040 protect him and he got finally the abuse that he 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:33.800 got all year caught up to know that injury can 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:37.880 happen any any quarterback in the league. Okay, that's exhibit one. 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:40.360 You're right, it can. It's a dangerous game. Even if 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:42.920 you have the best offensive line. Guys can't get hurt, 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:45.240 no doubt about it. I'm not putting it on just that. 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:47.880 I'll give you exhibit too. There's this guy called Andrew 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:49.640 Luck who should be at the prime of his career 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.559 right now, but because for five years, got the hell 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:55.679 beat out of him decided he didn't want to play 0:11:55.720 --> 0:12:01.000 football anymore. And so it's not just it I see 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.120 and I'm gonna I'm gonna flip on the other side 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:05.240 of that one too. That speaks more about him than 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:09.600 it does about I'm not saying. Okay, but my point 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:13.040 is this. Here's my point, and I think you agree 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:16.120 with me on this. If you want to have real hope, 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:19.280 in my opinion, it starts with the quarterback. What you 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:21.520 just said, no doubt about it. You and I are 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:23.760 a line. You have to have a franchise quarterback to 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:26.600 consistently win in this league. It's just the way it is, 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:29.280 the way the game is designed now more than ever 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:33.440 because of the rules and everything else. So we're agreement there, 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:36.440 But I'll say this, you better have a quarterback, and 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:40.640 after that, you better have somebody or multiple people who 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:44.680 can affect the quarterback, meaning a defensive front, and you 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:47.840 better have a bunch of dudes who can protect the quarterback. 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:50.720 If you don't have the foundation of big people on 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:53.440 both lines who can get after the quarterback and protect 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:57.120 the quarterback and that quarterback, it is really hard to 0:12:57.200 --> 0:13:00.720 win in this league. Okay, let's let's let's been it forward. 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:06.800 This team somehow had Justin Herbert and the same offensive 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:10.719 line and the same skilled people, and James Robinson is 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:13.200 a running back as is. Is that a good offense? 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:18.400 It's it's pretty good. There there's your answer to your question. 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:23.960 That line is a great Tony, that line is not great. Nobody, 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:27.360 You're right, but you're still not. I don't think you 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:29.240 have a winning record right now because you can't affect 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:33.480 the quarterback. You have nine cents. That's the other side. 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:35.680 You've also used a lot of draft capital on the 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:38.120 other side of the ball to kind of which is 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:41.720 a problem. That's great issue, but that you get the 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.120 guy and then the rest of the stuff all fills 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:46.560 in after it. You have to get the guys first. 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:49.240 You can sild it. No, I understand what you're saying, 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:50.880 but you can't build it and hope, like heck, you 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:53.640 get the quarterback. You have to build it around the quarterback. 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:56.760 I said it last year. I've said it multiple times 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:02.360 and again nothing gets Gardner Minshew. I said that on 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:04.280 this show. We talked about it. I said on other 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:07.720 shows to the people, I would have drafted a quarterback 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:10.360 and gone after a quarterback. This year because I wasn't 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:12.920 sure Gardner minshows the franchise quarterback. And until you have 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:16.040 that guy, you have to be chasing to get that guy. 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:19.560 And this goes back to this take away. There are 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:23.240 two draft picks d J. Anderson and Chase on and 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:25.640 if you traded up to get Herbert, the franchise would 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:28.720 be in fifty thousand times better shape than it is 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:33.720 right now. There would be like you just said before, 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:37.680 that's my point. In Los Angeles for the Chargers, they 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:39.240 have a bunch of issues. They don't know how to 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:42.200 win games, that can't close out games and everything else. 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:44.760 There might be a there might be a head coaching 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:47.200 change there as well this year. You know, it's probably 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:50.280 a coin flip right now. But you know what, the 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:53.320 ten Charger fans that are actually in l A they 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:55.080 have bigger issues that I mean fans, But the ten 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:57.960 that are in they are hopeful because they watched that 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:00.560 guy actor for three fifty every week and stand in 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:03.920 the pocket and make plays on schedule and off schedule, 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:05.880 and they're like, you know what, we got our guys. 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:07.920 We might need to get a coach. We might need 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:09.880 to if we don't change the coach we might have 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:12.640 to figure out how to stay healthy. There's other issues, 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:16.040 but they have the guy Selly just made a fans 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:27.840 crack about another team top of cattle. Can't do that. 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:30.840 How many years of the Jaguar fans taking a beating 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:33.600 and people don't understand that there's actually a big type 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:36.480 fan base. They're just tired all losing. Is there a 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:39.400 big fan there was a there was a good fan 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:41.800 base in San Diego. I'm not saying the old time 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:44.280 Charger fans good fan you're telling me there's a really 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:47.000 a fan base in l A for the Charger. In Jansonville, 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:49.360 there's a fan base, That's what I'm saying. I have. 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:53.160 But they're not going to the games. I know. But 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:56.520 guess what since the Chargers moved there, Usually when the 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:58.320 team moves to a new city for the first year, 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:00.960 like people can't wait to go. The first year they 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:03.960 were there, they couldn't sell at the stadium. Pete, the 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:06.320 Chargers have been there before and played remember way back 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:08.440 in a day and they were the Los Angeles Chargers 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:10.680 at well. Boy, but you know what I'm saying. Yes, 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:16.880 But Tony, don't come on. You've been defending that Jacksonville 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:18.800 for years and year because they have a good because 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:22.000 there's fans here. Now there isn't not right now, there 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:25.000 isn't No, there's fans here. They are tired of it, 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:28.080 though they're mad. Even worse than that, I wish they 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:32.080 were really mad. I fear that the start of apathy 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:38.320 is coming in. So are there chances like yesterday? Are 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:41.280 there chance? Or people two nights? 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You know, I 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:21.680 don't think it disrupted my my rhythm. Um No, I'm 0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:23.400 here to go through my reads and get the ball 0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:24.800 in the heads of my playmakers. And I didn't do 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:26.760 a good enough job of that. Um you know, I 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:28.879 thought that one did a pretty good job, gave me 0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:30.560 enough time to get the ball out and I just 0:21:30.600 --> 0:21:36.880 did Next to Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour on Monday afternoon. 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:41.399 That's Jake Luton, the Jaguars quarterback after seven three loss 0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:44.880 to the Steelers in week eleven, nine straight losses. Now 0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:48.399 for the Jags j P, Shadrick, Pete Frisco and Tony 0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:51.879 VASSELLI glad you're along with us today and that brings 0:21:51.920 --> 0:21:55.800 us to the offensive discussion yesterday. Jake Luton sixteen of 0:21:55.920 --> 0:22:01.879 thirty seven passing one yards, no touchdown, four interceptions, a 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:06.119 fifteen point five rating. Those are the stats in the game, 0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:10.879 and you know it once they got behind by a 0:22:10.880 --> 0:22:14.440 couple of scores and the running game was pretty much 0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:17.680 out the window. We talked about a pregame Tony that 0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:20.560 you kind an idea of what the Steelers defense could 0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:23.840 do and and Luton I just didn't really have it 0:22:23.920 --> 0:22:26.560 later in the game, and Doug Maron actually said after 0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:29.680 the game he was thinking about bringing in Mike Lennan 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:32.879 didn't pull the trigger on that. How does Luton bounce 0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:35.640 back from a day like this, Well, let me start 0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:39.320 by saying, I appreciate his protecting the offensive line, but 0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:41.440 I thought that especially as the game went on again, 0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:44.359 I thought the tackle struggle at times, um, and I 0:22:44.400 --> 0:22:46.720 think he was the right tackle really struggle. It looked 0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:49.080 like for the TV. Well, I think both did it. 0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:54.800 I mean, Um, I don't think it was a great day. UM. Now, 0:22:54.840 --> 0:22:56.600 it didn't mean they were getting beat every play or 0:22:56.640 --> 0:22:59.520 anything like that. Um, But there was too much pressure. 0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:01.720 And I, I mean, I us have higher expectations of 0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:04.159 both Cam and Jawan, So I appreciate. But but you 0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:06.359 said that going in last week. Remember you said that 0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:09.000 those tackles had problems last week against Green Bay, And 0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:10.639 if they had problems against green Bay, they're gonna have 0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:13.119 problems this week as well. I was worried about it. 0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:14.920 I mean, those are two compass Russians they have there 0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:19.760 and and um. But with that said, it wasn't always 0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:23.080 on the offensive line. I think Luten missed some things. 0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:25.920 I think he missed some opportunities down the field, and 0:23:25.960 --> 0:23:28.240 he was widely inaccurate for the most part of the game. 0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:31.480 And he just ye give him credit. He wasn't like 0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:33.959 he was panicked. It wasn't like he was jumping in 0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:36.640 the pocket even when he the pocket was closing down 0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:38.280 and there was traffic and everything like that. But he 0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:42.080 just really inaccurate. Man, the ball was sailing on him 0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:44.520 two weeks in a row. I kind of blamed the 0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:47.480 wind last week when they played Green Bay, but there 0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:50.840 was no wind yesterday and the ball was all over 0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:54.679 the place. Yeah, I I thought just watching and I 0:23:54.720 --> 0:23:57.080 went back and rewatched it today on a regular TV 0:23:57.720 --> 0:24:02.160 and it just it was high way too many times. 0:24:02.960 --> 0:24:05.160 But like, okay, give me one Connolly in the middle 0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:06.480 of the field at a high ball. He should have 0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:10.360 pulled that one in. Um, did you a great remember? 0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:14.520 Oh yes, I mean in the hand the interception that 0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:16.240 he was that was tipped at the goal and it 0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:18.879 could have made it ten ten. I don't even know 0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:20.320 where you're throwing the ball. He was throwing it. It It 0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:22.479 looks like you're starting to effort and he was covered. 0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:26.720 He has nobody to go to there. It just it 0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:31.720 was not a good performance by Luton. But again, is 0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:35.560 it a performance. The numbers are far worse than the performance. 0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:39.640 Let's put it that way. Don't you think the tip 0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:43.440 of the lot of Primage the one he was so 0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:47.359 in He was so inaccurate. I mean even the start 0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:49.880 of the game, like some of the catches guys had 0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:52.120 to make were like acrobatic catches to go up high, 0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:55.760 and everything was sailing on him and everything's a fastball. 0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:57.840 There's no change of me. It's just like coming out 0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:01.119 of there, hun it's offline. And so yeah, no, I 0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:02.960 don't think I think I put it on him. I 0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:04.440 think it was on him. I don't think the numbers 0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:06.040 were good. I don't think the performance was good. And 0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:08.280 there was one that James Robinson had to catch on 0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:11.119 the far sideline out on the left. It was a 0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:14.119 great catch, but it wasn't close to anchorate. So what 0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:20.760 do you do? Oh gosh, I mean, I'll say this. 0:25:20.840 --> 0:25:24.600 Doug Maron today said that he needs to see Gardner. 0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:26.479 Minsh you throw a little bit, he said. The athletic 0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:28.919 training staff said he's a percent, but they need to 0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:31.320 see more throwing and see the coaching staff se him 0:25:31.320 --> 0:25:33.960 on the practice field to see how Gardner is and 0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:36.360 then get everybody you know before that, get everybody around 0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:40.560 today and figure out how Jake's doing above the shoulders, 0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:44.160 how Gardner's hand is doing, how Glennon is, and then 0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:46.439 make a decision after that. So he wasn't ready to 0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:51.760 make a move today, Yeah, I mean to play. You 0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:54.639 think he's going back to him? Yeah? I think I 0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:58.280 think so. I think so too. What would you do 0:25:58.320 --> 0:26:01.840 I go back? We'll probably go back there. Glennon is 0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:03.840 out of the equation for me. I'm not playing him. No, 0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:07.000 I'm not playing Glennon either. Quickly remember a couple of 0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:08.840 weeks ago, it's like, oh, Luton is gonna be the 0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:10.679 guy all year. He might struggle a little bit, but 0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:12.560 he's got a big arm, he can throw it down 0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:17.880 the field and all this. But defensive face yesterday, Yeah 0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:21.040 I know. And here's the thing. I go back and 0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:25.159 forth because Gardner probably gives you more because of his 0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:29.000 athletic ability, extending plays and doing different things. Limited with 0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:33.360 his arm um more accurate than uh way more much 0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:39.119 more accurate than Luten. But you're limited, I think, I 0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:42.160 mean at least like Luton's only he's a rookie. It's 0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:44.320 only three games, which aren't you like more interested to 0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:47.919 see what Luton can do. I probably would start looting again, 0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:50.040 but I think he's gonna go back to min Chick 0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:55.560 or you Fencho is healthy and you don't go to him. 0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:57.560 If you start looting in the ball, sailing all over 0:26:57.600 --> 0:26:59.240 the place in the quarter, then you go to Minshew 0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:02.920 that he's in the rest of the season. That's another possibility. Yeah, 0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:12.680 does it really matter? Almost It doesn't. This is where 0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:15.280 it matters. It doesn't matter to you, It doesn't the fans, 0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:17.520 I'm not even sure care at this point. It doesn't 0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:19.480 matter the guys on that team and Dug and so 0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:23.360 it Doug's responsibility. What he needs to do, honestly is 0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:26.080 in him and the staff. I have to make the decision. 0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:29.359 Whoever gives you the best chance to win. Well, what 0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:32.840 if that's Glennon, then you can go play Glennon? What 0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:36.320 because Here's here's the thing. What do they care about 0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:40.359 next year? They don't. So you're trying to win for 0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:42.960 your guys. You have right now, So go play Glennon. 0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:44.920 If he's the best. If you think Glennon gives you 0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:46.520 the best chance to win, and you're Doug Morone, you 0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:51.480 play him. I agree with you already. 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He's gonna try 0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:19.800 to take advantage that US have really good skilled positions. 0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:21.760 If good guys in the outside and I thought, I 0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:24.360 mean they're they're competing there in the right positions all 0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:26.080 the time. And the other guys who just made a 0:32:26.080 --> 0:32:28.240 few more players today. And when when a couple of 0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:31.120 those players are fifty yard passes on the outside, that's 0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:33.760 an easy way to give up some points. But I 0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:36.240 mean they're out there competing. Um. Even the guys who 0:32:36.240 --> 0:32:37.479 are out there, the young guys, some of them are 0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:40.360 hurt playing through injuries during the game. UM, So you 0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:42.680 can't be can't be nothing but proud of the effort 0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:48.760 they put out there. Joe Schobert, Jaguar's linebacker. Thirteen tackles 0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:52.120 yesterday and the loss to the Steelers three the final 0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:55.520 Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour, j P. Shadrick, Tony Boselli, 0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:59.360 Pete Frisco, your social questions coming up in the second 0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:03.200 hour to day, I was flipping around to the defense here, 0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:06.880 and you know, they were in the first half of 0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:09.760 the game. I felt like they were hanging in there 0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:13.200 at least, you know, and then things kind of slipped 0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:16.360 away towards the back end of the football game yesterday. 0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:19.040 Considering everything that was going on going into the game, 0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:22.400 they didn't have the starting outside corners, and Henderson's of 0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:24.760 course on injury reserve, and then Sydney Jones has an 0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:27.840 achilles issue now, so he was inactive for the game. 0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:30.800 He was questionable on Friday going in he did not play. 0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:33.840 He had a bunch of new faces out there on 0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:37.120 the outside and in the secondary. And then during the 0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:39.920 game a bunch of guys went down with injury. Daniel 0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:43.320 Thomas banged up an army issue, Josh Allen obviously with 0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:47.040 a new issue, and d J. Hayden grabbed the back 0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:50.080 of his handy again. So Doug Barone today said those 0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:52.320 three guys will be out for quote, quite a bit 0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:54.640 of time. He didn't give a specific time period for 0:33:54.680 --> 0:34:01.120 those guys. Andrew norm Thomas was an arm wasn't it. Yeah, 0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:04.120 it was an arm did break it? I haven't heard officially, 0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:06.920 and Doug didn't say maybe I saw that on Twitter. 0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:10.279 So it was an armed issue. He's gonna be out 0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:12.239 for a while, is what he said. And then for 0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:15.240 Alan there's no ligament damage, so that's the good news. 0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:18.040 But it sounds like he'll be out for a while 0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:20.799 as well. So they were banged up going in there. 0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:26.200 Even more bang up now, Pete, Yeah, and to the court. Okay, Well, 0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:28.319 Sydney Jones play next week. I mean, look at the 0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:30.600 group of guys that are on the field. It's incredible. 0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:34.960 Claybrooks had a rough over yesterday. I mean he had 0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:38.279 He looked like a guy who was a rookie who 0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:41.680 shouldn't be starting, and he was thrust into the starting lineup. 0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:43.200 And those are those guys are gonna have those kind 0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:48.280 of games. It's hard to find guys who had really 0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:52.440 good games. Are good games on defense, and which is 0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:54.520 interesting because they really didn't give up a ton of points. 0:34:56.080 --> 0:35:00.560 I mean, Hamilton's flashed at times. Again, I thought, and you, Tony, 0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:03.080 I mean, it wasn't great, but it was. Yeah. I 0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:05.400 mean I give I give the defense credit. I mean 0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:07.080 they hung in there. I mean they only they gave 0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:09.080 up twenty seven points, so it can't be that good. 0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:12.279 But the offense had four turnovers. That's four extra possessions 0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:17.000 at the Steelers got um and if you look at it, 0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:19.640 I thought that, you know, outside of three runs at 0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:21.880 Connor kind of broke, they did a good job against 0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:24.839 the run game that the Steelers issues. I don't think 0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:27.080 that offensive line is very good at run blocking at all, 0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:29.000 and that that's I think that's gonna come bite them 0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:32.919 at some point. Um. And I give Todd Washington of credit. 0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:34.719 I thought he was really creative with the blitz is 0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:37.479 and he was. That was his most creative game, I thought. 0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:39.279 I thought he thought he did a really good job 0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:41.920 and he competed and can confused Ben a couple of times. 0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:44.879 You should have to pick six with Jared Wilson broke 0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:47.239 on that ball and just couldn't hold onto it. So 0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:51.879 you know, the defense played fine. I mean, I mean 0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:55.120 that's a that's a good offense. It's an offense. It's 0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:56.959 and scots and points. I got weapons, and I thought 0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:58.839 they hung in there. If you think about it, there 0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:01.080 without their two starting corn is, then they're starting. Nickel 0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:03.680 went down and then their backup corner went down. I 0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:07.399 mean pretty soon you're the corners across the board were 0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:12.680 Luke Barko undrafted free agent but not rookie for agent, 0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:16.200 haven't played it all this year. Josiah Scott at nicol 0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:20.120 drafted had not played played four snaps. I think he 0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:24.160 played four snaps, that's correct. And then and then Trey 0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:27.080 Herndon that was your that was your starting and then 0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:31.520 by the way, you're you're on your third safety with 0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:35.719 Andrew Winger got out there, who got beat for the touchdown. So, 0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:38.680 I mean it's tough, and then you and then you 0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:40.440 don't have any real pass rush in front of him. 0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:44.920 That's that's I give him credit for what they hung 0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:48.240 in there and did. Okay, of the guys who started 0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:51.600 on Sunday, how many will be starting in the same 0:36:51.640 --> 0:37:02.839 spot in two thousand and one? Well, Josh Allen two? Four? Look, 0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:09.200 Josh Allen, Maybe Hamilton's, Hamilton's, Hamilton's that's two Showbert, Miles 0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:18.240 Jack will start and Daniel Thomas and that's six maybe maybe, 0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:26.320 maybe maybe how many definite Josh Allen three, Hamilton's and 0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:32.480 Miles Jack and Miles Jack. They're they're Hamilton's and Allen 0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:35.160 and Miles Jack going down. That's it. That's the only definite. 0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:40.120 But they're paying showbird. Sometimes you gotta admit your mistake. 0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:48.040 I wouldn't go down. I wouldn't go down for you yet. Okay, 0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:49.480 what are you gonna wait to have the season to 0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:56.840 do it? I'm not awful, He's not awful good, but 0:37:56.960 --> 0:37:59.400 he ain't worth that money that much as a given 0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:10.319 positive conversation. Tony has had enough of this conversation. I think, Pete, yeah, 0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:12.719 I mean, what what do you always say? I I 0:38:12.760 --> 0:38:18.640 mean this question better and I told you what. I 0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:21.080 think he's better. You're better with him at starting at Mike? 0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:24.960 Is it moves Miles jack Um? Well, are you telling me? 0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:26.759 Is he an All Pro? Is he a Pro Bowl 0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:33.399 level mic linebacker? No? Pro Bowl? Say it again, Pete, 0:38:34.160 --> 0:38:36.840 he's been to the Pro Bowl. I'm you're asking me 0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:38.560 if he's playing at that level. I don't think he is. 0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:42.520 How about alright, so three guys are definite from the 0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:45.200 guys who started on Sundays, there's only three definites going in. 0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:53.759 I think that's right. I mean, yeah, definite. I mean 0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:55.319 I think it's gonna end up being five or six, 0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:59.120 but definite, like start like you like, these guys are 0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:04.200 starting caliber player. Okay, will Chase On be a starter? 0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:10.880 I don't think so. Well that's a miss. Then if 0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:16.080 he's not starting, a miss because I I don't think 0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:17.840 you can start him and Josh Allen, I think you 0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:19.719 need a bigger defensive end. I was gonna say, what 0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:21.440 kind of scheme are they running? Is it gonna be 0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:23.880 a totally different What if they come in? What if 0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:25.879 the guy who comes in and puts three guys down 0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:27.719 and two guys on the edge standing up, then you 0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:30.759 can start both of them. Did anybody start Yeah? Right, 0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:35.319 I'm saying I'm just thinking the current four three scheme. Yeah, 0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:39.160 and which almost goes back to the pick of them. 0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:42.400 If you picked him thinking you're going to fit him 0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:46.960 into this defense, it was almost like why, I mean, 0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:49.400 unless you felt like he was an elite he had 0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:51.640 a chance to be an elite pass rusher, and then 0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:53.880 you have two pass rushers you're nickel on you know, 0:39:53.960 --> 0:39:56.239 six percent at the time, then it's worthwhile. I don't 0:39:56.280 --> 0:39:58.879 see anything. I'm not saying he can't be. I haven't 0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:01.279 seen anything that tells me an elite pass pressure. He 0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:05.520 made a made a tackle yesterday though, that was yeah, 0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:09.000 I hope so you played defense, you're supposed to make tackles. Well, 0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:11.640 I'm just saying he made it that and I'm not 0:40:11.880 --> 0:40:13.680 I'm not to get credit with two tackle Did he 0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:16.360 get credit for two pressures too? One he had a 0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:19.440 loop in on the interior where he almost hit Roethlisberger 0:40:19.560 --> 0:40:22.399 in the middle mid section, Remember that one he came 0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:25.480 around and looped inside. He made two official tackles, had 0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:27.719 one tackle for loss, did not get any credit for 0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:31.000 quarterback hits. I'll say that, I don't know about it was. 0:40:31.160 --> 0:40:33.840 It was. He was right there at the when we 0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:36.360 released it. So it was. But again, he's not lining 0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:38.800 up a winning against anybody. Got a stun him inside. 0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:40.880 You know used to do that really well, Vic Beasley, 0:40:41.840 --> 0:40:48.080 I mean what happened to m I'm just not I'm 0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:49.400 not ready to kill him. You, I'm not ready to 0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:51.600 bury him and saying he's not ready to bury him either, 0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:54.120 I'm just asking you, do you think he's gonna be 0:40:54.120 --> 0:40:57.120 a starter next year in the current system? No, I 0:40:57.239 --> 0:41:01.600 don't o good now, Rembre in the second go ahead, 0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:04.840 Tony my bed because in a four three I'm not 0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:06.640 gonna start him and Josh Allen. I need a bigger 0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:09.719 end line up on the tightendside we can hold the point. 0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:14.799 I don't think he can hold the point. M fair enough, 0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:18.320 Caleb and Chason out of LSU overall pick couple of 0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:21.560 tackles yesterday eleven for the season. Has a sacked this year, 0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:24.080 but that just hasn't been on the field a lot, 0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:28.800 uh this year. Let's see yesterday. What were his numbers? Yesterday? 0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:33.680 Chason had forty six snaps yesterday. Remember Josh, he old 0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:35.640 Josh Allen got hurt in the second quarter, that's why. 0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:37.880 But he played a lot yesterday though, and and the 0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:41.719 production wasn't there. Hey, look, if there's no other way 0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:43.560 to sum it up other than the fact that he's 0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:48.640 been a disappointment so far this year, well, I mean, 0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:49.880 let me look at it, right, I mean, you look 0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:51.080 at it right now. You're not getting a ton of 0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:53.839 production out of it. Your top your three, your first 0:41:53.880 --> 0:42:02.560 three DERAFT picks, Anderson, Chason and do my Yeah, two 0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:07.239 of them are Yeah, that's right. I mean, I mean, 0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:09.200 injuries happened, so I'm not I mean that doesn't mean 0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:11.000 they can't they're not good players, we can't play it. 0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:14.520 Just as you sit here today, you're not getting production 0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:16.760 out So you're the best production out of the rookie 0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:19.200 is clearly the undrafted running back, and then after that 0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:24.000 it's got to be who Yeah, and then the one 0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:32.160 after that would have been, um, probably Claybrooks or Thomas Thomas. Yeah. Now, 0:42:32.239 --> 0:42:36.200 Thomas Isabks has been really good on special teams, right, 0:42:37.480 --> 0:42:39.759 but remember that's what he was drafted for. He was 0:42:39.760 --> 0:42:42.000 going to be a return specialist, right. He wasn't supposed 0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:44.759 to be on the field on defense. Yeah, he's done 0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:46.279 a good job too. He's a good gunner. I mean, 0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:48.120 he's a good football player. I mean I think he 0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:51.640 has a future in the league as a special teams 0:42:51.680 --> 0:42:54.279 guy in you know, a backup corner for sure. Right, 0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:57.520 I think we've lost Pete. He's frozen on our screen, 0:42:58.160 --> 0:43:02.480 which is the best face he's had all day, Tony. 0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:04.680 So let's take a time. It's it's not a very 0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:07.400 it's not a very becoming picture that he's frozen. He 0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:09.800 has like like turkey gaggle of the neck kind of 0:43:09.840 --> 0:43:13.799 hanging down there, a little b bad angle. You gotta 0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:15.960 be careful if it's gonna freeze, you gotta freeze like 0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:18.200 a good long neck, you know, sit up straight kind 0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:21.040 I mean glass houses and all. How many good angles 0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:25.080 are there? Not a lot, There aren't many. Let's come 0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:28.799 back any more happens? Oh that we're back in a moment, Pete, 0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:32.960 stand by. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. 0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:44.360 Dream Finders Homes. 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I just I just feel bad that 0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:24.680 we can't, you know, get a lead and get him 0:47:24.719 --> 0:47:26.760 more carries, and you know, I think it's a production 0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:29.000 would be even higher, you know, but you know, like 0:47:29.080 --> 0:47:30.920 you said, we just gotta keep it, you know, keep 0:47:30.960 --> 0:47:33.680 people off and and at times, you know, just do 0:47:34.040 --> 0:47:35.759 you know, continue a good job and do a good 0:47:35.800 --> 0:47:37.719 job on him. I mean, he's a he's obviously a 0:47:37.760 --> 0:47:41.600 good football player for US. Head coach Doug Moron after 0:47:41.680 --> 0:47:46.839 the game yesterday discussing James Robinson, Jaguars running back, Welcome Back, 0:47:46.920 --> 0:47:50.320 Jaguars Happy Hour, j P Shadrick, Pete Frisco, Tony Psell 0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:52.439 will be back with us at the top of the hour. 0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:54.160 So Pete, it's you and I. It's gonna be the 0:47:54.239 --> 0:47:57.879 best segment of the show. Of course, every time he leaves, 0:47:57.880 --> 0:48:00.440 it's always the best segment of the show. Come on, 0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:02.440 how many shows have we done without him? When he's 0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:04.279 been in Europe, they went, the ratings went through the roof. 0:48:04.800 --> 0:48:07.520 I mean they are to this day, there's not a 0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:11.520 higher rating than those shows. I mean, those are ones 0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:14.239 they put in the Hall of fame. They really are. Um, 0:48:14.920 --> 0:48:20.279 so James Robinson, this guy continues, Yeah, it's you know what, Jp, 0:48:20.440 --> 0:48:25.400 it's amazing that he's, like Doug said, you're not capable 0:48:25.480 --> 0:48:29.160 of seeing him play with the lead because he's been phenomenal. 0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:33.040 I mean I always say it. He doesn't let anybody 0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:37.360 get square contact on him. He's always cutting and bobbing 0:48:37.520 --> 0:48:41.239 and weaving and and it's hard to get square hits 0:48:41.239 --> 0:48:43.600 on him. Fits through tight little holes and pops out. 0:48:44.160 --> 0:48:47.279 He's what a running back should be. Um. You know, 0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:50.200 maybe he lacks the top end speed, which is okay, 0:48:50.280 --> 0:48:53.799 you don't have the explosive runs from a guy like him, 0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:57.920 but he is a tough guy, grinder and again Emmitt 0:48:58.000 --> 0:49:01.600 Smith style runner. You know where Emmitt Smith never let 0:49:01.680 --> 0:49:03.640 people get good shots on him, and yet he's still 0:49:03.640 --> 0:49:06.400 put up a bunch of numbers. He's an oppressive kid. 0:49:06.440 --> 0:49:09.000 He's been their best offensive player. I don't think there's 0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:12.120 any question about that. Uh. And he is a building 0:49:12.160 --> 0:49:14.239 block and a foundation for this team. I'd have to 0:49:14.280 --> 0:49:16.759 go dig a little bit, obviously, but I'm curious how 0:49:16.920 --> 0:49:21.239 many rushing attempts are for losses or no gain for 0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:23.719 him this year. I bet the vast majority are for 0:49:23.840 --> 0:49:29.239 positive yardage. Yeah. He and even at times when there's penetration, 0:49:29.320 --> 0:49:31.520 he has a way of finding himself to a lot 0:49:31.600 --> 0:49:33.120 of scrimmage and and that's a sign of a good 0:49:33.200 --> 0:49:39.800 running back. Um. He is everything that Leonar four Net wasn't. 0:49:40.880 --> 0:49:43.200 Leonar fourn Nett had the straight line speed when he 0:49:43.239 --> 0:49:44.839 got through the whole, but he didn't make anybody mess 0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:46.640 if there was penetration in the back, but he was 0:49:46.680 --> 0:49:48.960 going down. If there was a guy in front of him, 0:49:49.000 --> 0:49:50.600 he's gonna try and run him over. He wasn't making 0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:53.719 anybody miss. This kid makes people miss. He just doesn't 0:49:53.760 --> 0:49:56.200 have the top end speed. But he's a good back 0:49:56.239 --> 0:49:58.840 and he's a good football player. To your point of 0:49:59.160 --> 0:50:01.239 he's not a game breaker. He's not gonna break that 0:50:01.360 --> 0:50:05.160 forty sixty yard touchdown run um. Talking to Terry Robiscue 0:50:05.160 --> 0:50:06.920 a few weeks ago, the running backs coach has been 0:50:06.920 --> 0:50:12.080 in the league for forever and and used that used 0:50:12.120 --> 0:50:14.600 that bow Jackson and Marcus Allen in his backfield as 0:50:14.600 --> 0:50:16.800 an assistant back in the old days. He said to 0:50:16.960 --> 0:50:19.600 James earlier this year, you know, get us what we 0:50:19.840 --> 0:50:23.279 need as a team, and that's four yards and then 0:50:23.320 --> 0:50:25.600 you can get what you want after that. So I 0:50:25.680 --> 0:50:27.479 think early in the season he might have been worried 0:50:27.520 --> 0:50:30.279 about breaking out and getting an extra ten yards something 0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:32.719 like that. But as the season has gone on, you 0:50:33.000 --> 0:50:36.120 see him focusing on what the blocking is following the 0:50:36.200 --> 0:50:38.279 play and that helps the offensive line out as well 0:50:38.360 --> 0:50:41.239 when you follow what is what is drawn up for 0:50:41.360 --> 0:50:44.560 you Andy, And he's a pretty good receiver too. Out 0:50:44.600 --> 0:50:46.560 of the background. He can catch the ball. He saw 0:50:46.640 --> 0:50:49.919 that yesterday, had a good catch. I think eventually they'll 0:50:50.000 --> 0:50:52.000 use the more in the screen game as they get 0:50:52.120 --> 0:50:54.839 better at that kind of thing. But right now, he's 0:50:54.840 --> 0:50:58.719 a good running back. Now he's not Fred Taylor, Maurice Jones, 0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:01.680 Drew we can that role right now. But he's a 0:51:01.880 --> 0:51:04.000 good back. And if you asked me if I could 0:51:04.040 --> 0:51:06.920 have him or Leonard for Nett right now to run 0:51:07.000 --> 0:51:10.759 behind my offensive line, I'm taking Robinson right I mean, 0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:15.160 we'll see Leonard tonight money football. But um, you don't 0:51:15.160 --> 0:51:18.279 do anything. Don't do anything. He doesn't do anything down there, No, 0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:20.880 don't do anything. I mean, he did some things in Jacksonville, 0:51:20.920 --> 0:51:22.600 but a lot of that was out of necessity because 0:51:22.640 --> 0:51:25.360 he got the ball and they were behind, you know, 0:51:25.480 --> 0:51:28.560 the passing yard and he got last year Catches was behind. 0:51:28.840 --> 0:51:32.759 But no, look, they took they took a lot of 0:51:32.800 --> 0:51:35.080 heat for that decision right when it happened, right, I mean, 0:51:36.880 --> 0:51:40.080 that's one JP. That's one decision that they deserve to 0:51:40.120 --> 0:51:43.239 get credit for because you know, when they sat for 0:51:43.400 --> 0:51:47.200 net packing, they knew they had Robinson and you know, 0:51:47.280 --> 0:51:50.040 you started hearing good things about him, and we talked 0:51:50.040 --> 0:51:52.959 about it on the show and people when I told people, 0:51:53.600 --> 0:51:55.200 like on the air in my place and I said 0:51:55.239 --> 0:51:56.879 it in the office, they said who, But I said, 0:51:56.920 --> 0:51:59.680 you watch, I've heard nothing but good things about this. 0:52:00.560 --> 0:52:03.640 So they made the right decision. And he's a good kid. 0:52:03.719 --> 0:52:06.080 He's a he's a great character kid. From everything I 0:52:06.200 --> 0:52:09.480 hear a little quiet um, you know that, which you 0:52:09.560 --> 0:52:12.760 know guys are when they're young and they're in rookies. 0:52:12.840 --> 0:52:15.320 But he's a good back and they have that's a 0:52:15.400 --> 0:52:19.759 building block. There's one. I think DJ sharks too. You know, 0:52:20.120 --> 0:52:22.920 I think, you know, offensive line wise, you'd like to 0:52:22.960 --> 0:52:25.600 think John Taylor is, but I don't think he's played 0:52:25.640 --> 0:52:29.560 that well this year. But he should be, uh you know, 0:52:29.640 --> 0:52:33.839 should not will be. I think maybe if he stays healthy. Right, 0:52:34.080 --> 0:52:38.800 that's a guy like that, right and so, and I 0:52:38.880 --> 0:52:41.279 think he bring Keelan coleback as the third receiver. But 0:52:41.840 --> 0:52:44.839 that group is coming back now. How they play out 0:52:44.880 --> 0:52:48.680 the offensive line is to be determined. Well, Cann'll be 0:52:48.719 --> 0:52:50.680 back because Cand's contract and kid's actually play A J 0:52:50.840 --> 0:52:52.719 can give him credit. He's played pretty well this year. 0:52:53.440 --> 0:52:55.080 The rest of those guys, I think it's up in 0:52:55.120 --> 0:53:00.439 the air. Linder, Norwell, damn Robinson, and Robinson hasn't played 0:53:00.480 --> 0:53:04.440 himself into a big time contract. I don't think Tony 0:53:04.560 --> 0:53:08.359 might disagree with me, but I'd be careful with that one, right, 0:53:08.680 --> 0:53:10.880 I mean, if you there's a better option out there too, 0:53:11.040 --> 0:53:13.440 maybe you go get the better option. Well, can you 0:53:13.800 --> 0:53:15.799 can you? I still don't think you're gonna be able 0:53:15.800 --> 0:53:17.920 to pay Lender and Robinson, so one of them had 0:53:18.280 --> 0:53:21.399 one of them has to go, all right, So are 0:53:21.440 --> 0:53:26.800 you more comfortable paying Lender paying Robinson for me? I 0:53:26.880 --> 0:53:30.799 think I'm uncomfortable paying Lender. I'm more comfortable paying neither 0:53:30.880 --> 0:53:33.960 of them, to be honest with none of them start over. No, 0:53:34.239 --> 0:53:37.239 I would Well, I mean, you drafted Bart do you 0:53:37.320 --> 0:53:40.319 think he's going to be a player, So he could 0:53:40.320 --> 0:53:41.600 be in one of the guards and you might send 0:53:41.680 --> 0:53:45.080 Norwell packing, make him me the left guard. Uh, and 0:53:45.200 --> 0:53:47.040 then you know you can find some guys that are 0:53:47.160 --> 0:53:49.080 they have money to spend. Let's not forget about that. 0:53:49.200 --> 0:53:51.360 There's guys you can find on the on the street. 0:53:51.840 --> 0:53:56.399 Let's just say in the draft they had We're gonna 0:53:56.400 --> 0:54:02.759 talk draft later, but fields and the offensive lineman down there. 0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:07.279 That when they picked the Ramspeck left tackle, and and 0:54:08.040 --> 0:54:12.520 they sign a tight end and free agency, is that 0:54:12.640 --> 0:54:14.680 a good offense? Well, it depends on what kind of 0:54:14.760 --> 0:54:17.480 tight end you're getting, right. I mean, if you're gonna 0:54:17.480 --> 0:54:19.160 get a free agency tight end, you think he's gonna 0:54:19.160 --> 0:54:25.120 go down catches starting left tackle at twenty two or 0:54:25.200 --> 0:54:28.560 whatever it is now, right, which would be a rookie tackle. 0:54:28.640 --> 0:54:30.439 But you know we've seen those guys step in and play. 0:54:30.600 --> 0:54:33.200 Beckton's played really well. He was a high pick though, Um, 0:54:33.520 --> 0:54:35.719 I think you'd have confidence at that point, right, I mean, 0:54:36.280 --> 0:54:39.799 new guy your comfortable with left tackle, your offensive line, 0:54:39.840 --> 0:54:41.520 and new guy you pick in the first round at 0:54:41.560 --> 0:54:44.879 left tackle, um BArch at left guard. It's a young 0:54:45.000 --> 0:54:48.040 left side though. How you bring Linda back at center 0:54:48.080 --> 0:54:51.239 to keep the group together, can and Taylor. Then you 0:54:51.320 --> 0:54:55.760 have fields, you drafted, you signed Hunter, Henry, you draft, 0:54:55.920 --> 0:54:58.840 and then you have the three healthy receivers together with Robinson. 0:54:58.920 --> 0:55:02.600 Is that is that a good? That's it's better than 0:55:02.719 --> 0:55:05.200 what's going on right now. I'll say that what has 0:55:05.360 --> 0:55:07.880 really it has the potential to be, has the potential. 0:55:08.040 --> 0:55:10.520 I don't think opening day you can say, hey, we're good, 0:55:10.640 --> 0:55:12.719 it's built. You can't do that. They gotta go play 0:55:12.760 --> 0:55:16.000 and get better together, you know, so I mean that, 0:55:16.360 --> 0:55:19.520 And and there are options in free agency as well 0:55:19.680 --> 0:55:24.040 to spend money on. So there. Look, it's moving. You 0:55:24.120 --> 0:55:26.759 have the money, you have the draft picks, you have 0:55:26.960 --> 0:55:30.480 some building block. It's just this year. If you're a fan, 0:55:30.719 --> 0:55:32.600 I know you hate when I say this. You just 0:55:32.680 --> 0:55:36.279 gotta hope the Jets win one. And well, I mean 0:55:36.719 --> 0:55:39.320 that's the reality. Rather have Trevor Lawrence and Justin Field. 0:55:39.600 --> 0:55:42.359 And that's not anything against Justin Field, because I think 0:55:42.360 --> 0:55:44.319 he's gonna be a really good player too. This might 0:55:44.400 --> 0:55:47.480 be Burrow and Herbert. You'd be okay with either one 0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:50.719 of them. Right, One more quick thing here before we 0:55:50.760 --> 0:55:53.719 go away. Are you more comfortable paying a tight end 0:55:53.760 --> 0:55:56.320 in free agency or drafting a rookie tight end to 0:55:56.400 --> 0:56:00.480 be the start or does it matter. I mean, I 0:56:00.600 --> 0:56:03.239 might be more comfortable paying a left tackle if I 0:56:03.320 --> 0:56:07.040 got one, and and then drafting the rookie tight end. Yea. 0:56:07.400 --> 0:56:11.080 The problem with the tight ends nowadays, they're one dimensional 0:56:11.120 --> 0:56:13.440 in a lot of cases. I mean, like, Okay, the 0:56:13.520 --> 0:56:15.080 kid at Penn State was going to be a first 0:56:15.160 --> 0:56:18.160 round pick, Briar muth I think that's his name. He's 0:56:18.200 --> 0:56:21.279 hurt now, and so how do you evaluate him? And 0:56:21.360 --> 0:56:23.719 he's a complete tight end. You have the Florida kid. 0:56:24.160 --> 0:56:26.080 He we know what he is. He's a pass cat. 0:56:26.960 --> 0:56:30.359 That's a that's a that's a Darren Waller. That's who 0:56:30.440 --> 0:56:33.600 he is. When you say that's what he's gonna be 0:56:33.640 --> 0:56:36.359 like Darren Waller, and that's Do you see what Darren 0:56:36.360 --> 0:56:39.279 Waller does? He creates mismatch problems for a defense. So 0:56:39.600 --> 0:56:42.520 that's another thing to keep an eye on. 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You know, 1:00:27.320 --> 1:00:28.800 I kind of went back and forth for a little bit. 1:00:28.960 --> 1:00:30.960 Me truthfully, I was just thinking to myself, Hey, listen 1:00:31.040 --> 1:00:32.400 to we keep them in there, and you know, you 1:00:32.480 --> 1:00:35.040 talk about getting experience. You know, is that gonna get experience? 1:00:35.080 --> 1:00:37.120 And then is it good enough? Or you know where 1:00:37.200 --> 1:00:38.960 we are? But I think, you know, during a week 1:00:39.000 --> 1:00:41.120 will evaluate it. I don't think I'll have an answer 1:00:41.160 --> 1:00:43.120 on Monday, you know when I get asked a question. 1:00:43.240 --> 1:00:45.600 But you know, I think, as um, you know, the 1:00:45.640 --> 1:00:47.400 week gold we'll take a look and see what we 1:00:47.440 --> 1:00:50.760 can do. What's the best thing for our team? That 1:00:50.880 --> 1:00:55.480 coach Doug Marone after the game yesterday discussing the quarterback situation. 1:00:55.640 --> 1:00:58.440 Welcome into the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour. The 1:00:58.520 --> 1:01:01.160 day after a Jaguars law to the Pittsburgh Steelers in 1:01:01.240 --> 1:01:06.280 Week eleven three. The final score j P Shadrick, Pete Prisco, 1:01:06.480 --> 1:01:09.360 Tony Vaselli. Glad you're along with us today, as the 1:01:09.480 --> 1:01:14.800 Jags have extended their losing skid to nine straight games. 1:01:15.920 --> 1:01:19.920 The offense struggled Jake Luton through four interceptions and That 1:01:20.160 --> 1:01:22.800 answer from Doug Moron was to a question about whether 1:01:22.880 --> 1:01:25.840 he thought about putting Mike Lennan into the game. He 1:01:25.880 --> 1:01:27.960 said he thought about it, but decided to stick with 1:01:28.080 --> 1:01:31.400 Luton in the game. Moving forward, still no decision as 1:01:31.480 --> 1:01:34.280 of today when Doug Moron spoke at the quarterback spot. 1:01:34.360 --> 1:01:37.400 Moving ahead, they'll see how Garden Mintshew progresses in practice 1:01:37.480 --> 1:01:39.520 this week. The coaching staff wants to see him throw 1:01:39.520 --> 1:01:42.280 a little bit more and then they'll figure things out. 1:01:42.640 --> 1:01:46.360 Possibly on Wednesday. The defense held their own for a bit. 1:01:46.480 --> 1:01:49.280 The Steelers though, just to have all those weapons everywhere 1:01:49.320 --> 1:01:53.000 on The Jaguars are walking wounded and in some cases 1:01:53.480 --> 1:01:57.080 not walking. Unfortunately. It is a the tough sled yesterday 1:01:57.520 --> 1:02:00.440 in the athletic training department in the Manta the staff 1:02:00.440 --> 1:02:01.800 as well. A lot going on in the game. A 1:02:01.800 --> 1:02:03.560 lot of guys left the game to not come back, 1:02:04.280 --> 1:02:07.080 and some major players could be out for a little while, 1:02:07.120 --> 1:02:10.840 including Josh Allen on the defensive line on deck. It 1:02:10.920 --> 1:02:14.160 doesn't get easier. The seven and three Cleveland Browns come 1:02:14.200 --> 1:02:17.520 to town this week in week number twelve, and they're 1:02:17.560 --> 1:02:20.479 fighting for a playoff spot. You know they'll be locked 1:02:20.520 --> 1:02:23.720 and loaded. Hey, Tony's back with us that you missed 1:02:24.600 --> 1:02:27.360 minutes was the best radio we've had in a long 1:02:28.520 --> 1:02:31.160 The ratings just went right through the roof when you left. 1:02:31.480 --> 1:02:34.000 I heard it as I was on the phone taking 1:02:34.000 --> 1:02:38.080 care of something. I heard bab babbling or along. No, 1:02:39.000 --> 1:02:41.640 I got you know how they nowadays you can get 1:02:41.840 --> 1:02:45.120 ratings metered like by fifteen minutes segments. That was their 1:02:45.200 --> 1:02:48.000 highest rated fifteen minutes of the year so far. Yeah, 1:02:48.080 --> 1:02:51.320 I heard your I heard your hunter, Henry take not 1:02:51.480 --> 1:02:55.280 just town Henry, just whatever. They need help. And you 1:02:55.280 --> 1:02:59.120 wouldn't pay either Linda or you cut you you you 1:02:59.280 --> 1:03:02.600 move on from under? And Cam? I might he start over, 1:03:02.720 --> 1:03:07.840 is what he said. Yep, Tony, I might play. I 1:03:08.000 --> 1:03:10.600 play Shatley at center if I had to, and I 1:03:10.720 --> 1:03:13.600 get a left pack or a draft one play Bart 1:03:13.720 --> 1:03:15.440 and left. I mean yes, I would probably. To be 1:03:15.520 --> 1:03:17.520 honest with you, I think they're both too expensive. They'd 1:03:17.520 --> 1:03:19.840 be both too expensive for what they are. What what 1:03:20.000 --> 1:03:25.160 would make what number would make Cam too expensive? Well? 1:03:25.160 --> 1:03:26.560 What do you think he's gonna ask for? I mean 1:03:26.600 --> 1:03:29.400 an unrestricted free agent left tackle? After seeing what these 1:03:29.440 --> 1:03:32.000 guys have been getting, what bout ther get? And he 1:03:32.080 --> 1:03:35.880 hasn't Bogard, But what do you get? Or twenty three? Here? 1:03:36.200 --> 1:03:38.480 Just drop him down a little bit. What do you 1:03:38.520 --> 1:03:40.920 think he's gonna ask for? I didn't say what he's 1:03:40.960 --> 1:03:46.640 gonna ask for? What would you want? What I pay him? Yeah? Twelve? 1:03:48.040 --> 1:03:56.160 I was gonna say fourteen. No, but you're paying for 1:03:56.960 --> 1:03:59.800 What are you paying for, Tony? What? What do you 1:04:00.040 --> 1:04:03.480 getting for fourteen million dollars a year? I mean, I 1:04:03.520 --> 1:04:08.000 think you're getting a solid starters, So you're overbey for 1:04:08.080 --> 1:04:11.760 a vilid starter. No, I mean, but I mean left 1:04:11.800 --> 1:04:16.160 tackles start left tackles a league, get intended fourteen? All right, 1:04:16.560 --> 1:04:19.160 unless unless, unless you unless you go get him, you know, 1:04:19.600 --> 1:04:25.360 draft him. Do you think he's better than Villineueva? Yes, 1:04:26.480 --> 1:04:29.800 you do? Yeah, I do. I don't know about that. 1:04:30.520 --> 1:04:36.439 Oh gosh, people watch the tape. He's a thousand times 1:04:36.520 --> 1:04:39.880 better run blocker than he's a better Villa, can't bend 1:04:39.920 --> 1:04:44.520 his knees, and he's a better pass walker, Ben says Villaneuva. 1:04:44.800 --> 1:04:46.760 Ben gets rid of it faster than any quarterback in 1:04:46.800 --> 1:04:48.400 the league, and he moves in the pocket as well 1:04:48.480 --> 1:04:52.040 as anybody. Yes, he's better than villain Aueva. It's not okay, 1:04:52.120 --> 1:04:53.560 but he's not Okay, then we can go around the 1:04:53.640 --> 1:04:56.280 league and find left tackles. He's not better that what 1:04:56.360 --> 1:05:00.320 are they paying Villinueva. I'm gonna look, okay, is he's 1:05:00.360 --> 1:05:05.400 not better than Eric Fisher and he's not good? Do 1:05:05.440 --> 1:05:08.040 you agree with that? He's a better run blocker eric Fisher? 1:05:08.160 --> 1:05:11.760 But he's he's not as um I mean I think 1:05:11.800 --> 1:05:17.240 he's he's on Eric Fisher's calib I mean they're like, 1:05:17.440 --> 1:05:21.280 you're right, they probably neither one of them are that good? Okay, 1:05:21.360 --> 1:05:23.080 you know what building a wave it gets per year? 1:05:23.720 --> 1:05:33.200 He gotta he makes six million dollars a year and 1:05:33.360 --> 1:05:36.760 he's an unrestricted free agent after the season. I mean, 1:05:36.920 --> 1:05:39.000 there's not that much. Would you pay billing a wave 1:05:39.080 --> 1:05:42.120 of six million? And game Momas in four d? Come on? 1:05:42.320 --> 1:05:51.000 Don't yeah, I mean, Pete, here's the other thing you 1:05:51.120 --> 1:05:53.760 can't do any now. Build a wave is older. Yeah, 1:05:53.840 --> 1:05:56.360 he's much older. Here's you can't do. You just can't 1:05:56.480 --> 1:05:59.640 keep on getting rid of guys. You have to build somewhere. 1:06:01.840 --> 1:06:03.840 I mean, it's I'll give you a perfect a million, 1:06:03.920 --> 1:06:08.760 a million. We know what? Okay? What is no? No, 1:06:08.920 --> 1:06:12.280 you're missing my point. This is exactly whoever the gym 1:06:12.360 --> 1:06:16.360 needs to be thinking. What's Eric Fisher getting paid from 1:06:16.480 --> 1:06:20.160 Pick though? Too, I don't care it's a second contract. 1:06:20.200 --> 1:06:22.120 What is he getting paid? I'll tell you right now. 1:06:23.600 --> 1:06:26.200 We'll see if you're over a little to it. He's 1:06:26.240 --> 1:06:31.600 getting twelve a year. Okay. So I said twelve, I said, Tony, 1:06:31.680 --> 1:06:35.040 what every every player in the league on them? You 1:06:35.080 --> 1:06:38.440 know you said ten? First of all? I swelled and 1:06:38.560 --> 1:06:44.560 I said twelve. You said fourteen. Tony said fourteen. I 1:06:44.640 --> 1:06:49.720 said twelve. No, I did not say fourteen fourteen. I 1:06:49.760 --> 1:06:52.240 said twelve to fourteen. I gave you a range. I 1:06:52.400 --> 1:06:57.160 said twelve. We can pull the tape up at Jenny game, 1:06:57.440 --> 1:07:00.720 okay if whatever. By the way, that deal was signed 1:07:00.720 --> 1:07:02.720 two or three years ago. I think he's an equal 1:07:02.800 --> 1:07:05.800 quest like and everyone killed the Chiefs when they signed 1:07:05.840 --> 1:07:07.280 him and paid him that much money to or three 1:07:07.360 --> 1:07:10.000 years ago. Here's the reality is, unless you have someone 1:07:10.120 --> 1:07:12.040 better to replace him with, you just keep on going 1:07:12.120 --> 1:07:15.320 backwards and spinning and you go nowhere. So okay, so 1:07:16.200 --> 1:07:18.440 you can't pay would you agree that you're probably not 1:07:18.520 --> 1:07:22.760 gonna pay keep lender and pay Camp. I don't think 1:07:22.800 --> 1:07:26.600 you can pay lender Norwell and Camp. Okay, well, let's 1:07:26.640 --> 1:07:29.760 think doorble out of the equation because the ideal situation 1:07:29.800 --> 1:07:31.720 barches right in to play left card, you play left card. 1:07:33.040 --> 1:07:35.439 True right, you drafted him, you think you can play, 1:07:35.520 --> 1:07:39.320 you put him a left card. I haven't. I mean, 1:07:39.480 --> 1:07:42.000 I haven't what I saw in the two games. I'm 1:07:42.040 --> 1:07:46.640 not doing that. But it's a whole year of everything. Great, 1:07:47.880 --> 1:07:50.480 am I gonna bet everything going into the uh go 1:07:50.640 --> 1:07:53.520 into the season with what I've seen so far. Now 1:07:53.560 --> 1:07:55.520 I haven't seen practice. I haven't seen what this guy 1:07:55.600 --> 1:07:59.880 doesn't Camp. I mean, we weren't therapy. It's hard, but 1:08:00.000 --> 1:08:04.320 that's an ideal scenario. Okay, but okay, but you pay 1:08:04.480 --> 1:08:08.400 everybody and bring it me. I did not say to 1:08:08.480 --> 1:08:12.720 pay everybody. You're not, so what would you do? What 1:08:12.840 --> 1:08:19.519 would I do? Um one? I I My biggest concern, 1:08:19.640 --> 1:08:21.519 Pete is if I'm gonna go draft a young quarterback, 1:08:21.560 --> 1:08:25.880 I want to protect him. And even if for I mean, 1:08:25.960 --> 1:08:28.680 you got to protect him. I get that, But you 1:08:28.840 --> 1:08:34.720 are you? Is this line good enough to protect? I 1:08:34.760 --> 1:08:36.840 mean that's a fair that. That's the other side, is it? 1:08:37.120 --> 1:08:38.880 I mean, what do you get? Are you getting what 1:08:38.960 --> 1:08:42.599 you're paying for that's a fair. That's a fair. Okay, 1:08:42.640 --> 1:08:45.320 So let's let's just say you can't. There's no way 1:08:45.400 --> 1:08:49.800 you can pay. You can't pay you can and nor 1:08:50.000 --> 1:08:54.360 would you. Why would you? I agree? So one of 1:08:54.439 --> 1:08:57.800 them or two of them have to go. You're probably right. 1:08:58.960 --> 1:09:00.400 So then which one do you pick? You picked the 1:09:00.479 --> 1:09:03.400 young guy and let the two old guys go. I mean, 1:09:04.240 --> 1:09:07.479 I've always maybe overvalued Cam because I think he really 1:09:07.560 --> 1:09:10.960 has ability and talent and everything else, but the consistency 1:09:11.080 --> 1:09:13.560 is just not there. And if you look at it, 1:09:14.920 --> 1:09:17.200 you know his rookie year was his rookie year up 1:09:17.240 --> 1:09:20.200 and down, but that's a rookie Um. He came back 1:09:20.520 --> 1:09:22.439 before he got hurt. He was not playing good, did 1:09:22.479 --> 1:09:25.240 not have a good camp, good three season or good start. 1:09:25.400 --> 1:09:31.040 Gets hurt Um early and then really last year never 1:09:31.160 --> 1:09:34.000 looked good at all last year as well. Now came 1:09:34.040 --> 1:09:36.880 back this year in a contract year, in great shape 1:09:37.400 --> 1:09:41.200 and like ready to go. Started well. Um has had 1:09:41.320 --> 1:09:43.160 the last couple has been tough weeks, but for the 1:09:43.200 --> 1:09:45.320 most part has played well this year until the last 1:09:45.360 --> 1:09:47.960 couple of weeks. Um. But when you worry about with 1:09:48.000 --> 1:09:50.840 the guy like that Pete, didn't you do it because 1:09:50.840 --> 1:09:54.760 it was his contract year. And if this is a 1:09:54.880 --> 1:09:57.840 contract year and this is the best you're gonna get, 1:09:59.080 --> 1:10:01.000 you know what I mean? If if he went into 1:10:01.040 --> 1:10:03.840 the year as a contract year, got in great shape, 1:10:03.920 --> 1:10:05.920 was ready to go, I'm gonna go show people I'm 1:10:05.920 --> 1:10:08.000 worth all this money, and this is the best you're 1:10:08.000 --> 1:10:13.760 gonna get. That's concerning. Yeah, well, I mean what does 1:10:13.800 --> 1:10:18.040 he get paid? And he's an unrestricted free agent, that's 1:10:18.080 --> 1:10:20.720 a good question. I mean, is he gonna get He 1:10:20.840 --> 1:10:23.000 probably get. He's not coming close to that box the 1:10:23.120 --> 1:10:25.200 r mundy. No, no, no, no, he's not that So 1:10:26.160 --> 1:10:29.479 so what's he get? I say, gets twelve? I bet 1:10:29.560 --> 1:10:32.639 you gets more than that market peak. Look around the NFL. 1:10:32.720 --> 1:10:35.200 Look at the offensive linemen. I know they're bad. There's 1:10:35.240 --> 1:10:39.439 some bad lineman in this league. I mean, okay, is 1:10:39.479 --> 1:10:42.840 he better than Donovan Smith in Pampa? Probably? I don't 1:10:42.840 --> 1:10:47.719 think so. No, Or it's close, it's closed though, Yeah, okay, 1:10:47.760 --> 1:10:55.080 the Rams started, Rams started Whitworth. Whitworth. Wentworth is not 1:10:55.200 --> 1:10:57.560 his athletic. He's just a crafty dude. He's like not 1:10:57.760 --> 1:11:02.000 Wentworth better. He is better. Yeah, he's hurt now, but 1:11:02.080 --> 1:11:05.840 he's better. But there are he's not better. There's certain 1:11:05.880 --> 1:11:07.920 there's a lot of veteran starting now that aren't gonna 1:11:07.920 --> 1:11:09.840 be around either, so maybe there will be a market 1:11:09.920 --> 1:11:14.519 work like Jason Peters. Um, I mean he's he was 1:11:14.600 --> 1:11:18.559 terrible yesterday. Yeah, he's struggling and his body's breaking down. 1:11:18.760 --> 1:11:24.200 He was a great player down. Um, But you have 1:11:24.320 --> 1:11:26.360 big to your point, and this is where you like, 1:11:26.520 --> 1:11:29.320 you have big decisions. I'm not paying him like a 1:11:29.400 --> 1:11:31.599 franchise left tackle because I haven't seen that this year. 1:11:32.720 --> 1:11:36.840 But I don't think putting Let's call it between ten 1:11:37.040 --> 1:11:40.680 and fifteen million. Just make that the range in your 1:11:40.760 --> 1:11:45.760 left tackle right could you know above average plays out 1:11:45.800 --> 1:11:48.280 of the realm with it? Where the cap and how 1:11:48.320 --> 1:11:53.920 guys are getting paid right now? Okay, so twelve million 1:11:54.160 --> 1:11:59.080 is fair. I don't think he takes it nole thin. 1:11:59.120 --> 1:12:00.840 He goes. He goes to agency to see if you 1:12:00.920 --> 1:12:04.960 get more. Here's another question, speaking of free agency. Are 1:12:05.080 --> 1:12:08.400 you sure you can attract the free agent you want 1:12:08.680 --> 1:12:11.479 at that position on the right money. You'll try. You 1:12:11.520 --> 1:12:13.960 can get him anywhere. Here's the thing, You're not gonna 1:12:14.000 --> 1:12:17.160 go fund. There's no there's no franchise left tackles coming up. 1:12:17.360 --> 1:12:20.320 In free agency. Come on, guys, well no, but but 1:12:20.439 --> 1:12:23.000 you got a draft one then okay, but then Pete, 1:12:23.040 --> 1:12:25.000 you also need to tie You also want to tight end. 1:12:25.320 --> 1:12:28.439 You also need a pass rusher. You also need uh 1:12:29.240 --> 1:12:32.920 she's probably a safety you also need. You know, but 1:12:33.120 --> 1:12:37.760 aren't you compounding your problems by over paying a guy 1:12:37.960 --> 1:12:41.360 just to fill the spot. I'm not saying over pay him. 1:12:42.600 --> 1:12:44.960 I get what you're saying. I'm not saying I wouldn't 1:12:44.960 --> 1:12:48.760 pay him sixteen seventeen eighteen, nowhere close to twenty million 1:12:48.800 --> 1:12:51.360 dollars a year. I wouldn't do it because I haven't 1:12:51.400 --> 1:12:53.640 seen that. Now, maybe in the last six games a year, 1:12:53.720 --> 1:12:56.439 he's just dominant and things look better, and possibly I'd 1:12:56.439 --> 1:12:58.759 still be worried because it's a one year sample size 1:12:58.760 --> 1:13:01.120 of this will be his best year's contract here. We've 1:13:01.160 --> 1:13:06.599 seen that story in the league before of how that works. Yeah, yeah, 1:13:06.640 --> 1:13:08.880 I just I think you've got to be concerned a 1:13:09.000 --> 1:13:14.439 little bit about him playing his best football this year 1:13:14.560 --> 1:13:17.479 and this is this is it, this is what you 1:13:17.560 --> 1:13:23.839 get and so but at the same time, I understand, 1:13:23.880 --> 1:13:28.920 I gotta someone has to play left tackle somebody, right, 1:13:29.120 --> 1:13:31.240 And you just saying, go draft a guy. Okay, I 1:13:31.280 --> 1:13:35.000 gotta draft a lot of guys, Tonny. I understand that. 1:13:35.280 --> 1:13:39.240 But you're also saying, let's just play on with him, 1:13:40.040 --> 1:13:44.559 just because I'm not saying that. I'm just smart when 1:13:44.600 --> 1:13:47.599 you're when you're building a team before you just start 1:13:47.680 --> 1:13:50.360 cutting guys because you're not happy and it's always they stink. 1:13:50.720 --> 1:13:52.360 You better have someone to replace him with because you 1:13:52.439 --> 1:13:54.160 have to line up with eleven guys on each side 1:13:54.200 --> 1:13:56.120 of the ball. Okay, I'll give you. I'll give you 1:13:56.120 --> 1:13:58.960 a guy that's gonna be a free agent and he's 1:13:59.000 --> 1:14:03.280 played really well as already Stunt before this year, Garrett 1:14:03.280 --> 1:14:13.960 Bold year. Okay, but he's still but he's still light 1:14:14.240 --> 1:14:17.320 in the rear end and gets pushed. I'm not playing. 1:14:18.560 --> 1:14:22.040 But if you put those two side by side, I 1:14:22.120 --> 1:14:26.599 bet your bowls gets more money, camp more physical. That's 1:14:26.640 --> 1:14:28.519 just that there aren't any guys on the market. You 1:14:28.600 --> 1:14:32.800 can't that's my point. I mean, then you're betting on 1:14:32.880 --> 1:14:35.920 the draft. Well, if that's the case, he's going to 1:14:36.000 --> 1:14:37.400 go in and say, you know what, I'm going to 1:14:37.479 --> 1:14:39.200 go test the market and see what I'm gonna get. 1:14:40.080 --> 1:14:42.240 And that I mean, but then you have to use 1:14:42.880 --> 1:14:46.080 your transition tagon. What is the A's probably what they 1:14:46.360 --> 1:14:49.840 that's probably what they will do, transition tagon. If you're 1:14:49.840 --> 1:14:53.360 losing me, get a draft pick, right, that's probably what 1:14:53.439 --> 1:14:56.439 they'll do. I mean, that's what I would do. Well, 1:14:56.560 --> 1:14:58.639 I just said, now you're copying me, that's what I said. 1:14:58.640 --> 1:15:02.160 I But but again, what's what's the top what's the 1:15:02.200 --> 1:15:04.760 top what's the top ten number for? Because it isn't 1:15:04.800 --> 1:15:08.519 transition tech the average in the top ten? Uh yeah, 1:15:08.720 --> 1:15:14.880 so what do you think that's the highest? What's what's 1:15:14.880 --> 1:15:21.479 the tent? The higher, that's for sure, I'll find in 1:15:21.560 --> 1:15:24.720 a second. But you know, if you add one in 1:15:24.800 --> 1:15:28.040 the draft and he stepped in and play right away, 1:15:29.240 --> 1:15:30.680 and the answer to that quite If you're at them 1:15:30.680 --> 1:15:36.040 in the first round, you can, okay, but Pete, if 1:15:36.080 --> 1:15:39.240 you the Rams are pretty good and so they're gonna 1:15:39.240 --> 1:15:45.200 be picking. Let's say between twenty two and right, you're 1:15:45.240 --> 1:15:48.000 not finding a guy that you're comfortable with. You're not 1:15:48.080 --> 1:15:52.240 finding back then, No, not finding Have you watched the 1:15:52.280 --> 1:15:55.640 Browns on tape yet this year? Yeah? What do you 1:15:55.680 --> 1:15:59.360 think it will? Think he's a good player, you would 1:15:59.400 --> 1:16:01.240 take that and put him in left? Would you take 1:16:01.280 --> 1:16:05.519 Wills over Robinson. I've only watched like one or two games. 1:16:05.560 --> 1:16:08.360 I haven't watched that. Let's be unfair. But like I'll 1:16:08.400 --> 1:16:10.840 tell you, I like the kid of Tampa, the right 1:16:10.880 --> 1:16:14.960 tackle they got. He's good. He's really good. The kid, 1:16:15.560 --> 1:16:18.639 the kid and the Giants is struggling, but he'll be Okay, Yeah, 1:16:18.640 --> 1:16:20.519 it's playing better the last couple. But these are all 1:16:20.600 --> 1:16:23.080 guys taken in the top half of the draft. They're 1:16:23.120 --> 1:16:27.680 not there. Well, the Vikings picked the tackle later in 1:16:27.720 --> 1:16:31.080 the first round. He's now starting at right guard. Okay, 1:16:32.840 --> 1:16:37.000 that doesn't That doesn't solve your left tackle. So basically, 1:16:37.160 --> 1:16:39.120 so what does solve your left tackle? The pay and 1:16:39.160 --> 1:16:41.800 paid m Robinson million dollars a year doesn't solve your 1:16:41.880 --> 1:16:44.960 left backing spot either. I'm sorry. It doesn't. Just builds it. 1:16:45.479 --> 1:16:48.439 We got a time Well, we gotta take a time out. 1:16:48.479 --> 1:16:51.439 We'll come back. We'll finish this conversation because this could 1:16:51.479 --> 1:16:53.280 go on for a while. We'll get to your social 1:16:53.400 --> 1:16:57.240 questions and it's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. 1:17:05.720 --> 1:17:07.840 Jaguars fans, did you know that with Drizzly you can 1:17:07.880 --> 1:17:10.439 get Tito's handmade vodka delivered to your door and under 1:17:10.520 --> 1:17:13.200 sixty minutes. Well you can, and now they're giving all 1:17:13.240 --> 1:17:15.639 fans ten dollars off their first order. Use the code 1:17:15.720 --> 1:17:18.360 JAGS ten at checkout. 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It's time now for our favorite segment each week, 1:20:52.960 --> 1:20:55.560 Social Questions. We put out the bat signal early in 1:20:55.640 --> 1:20:58.600 the day and here's what we've come up with on 1:20:58.720 --> 1:21:06.360 this fine Monday afternoons. Starting with question number one, Anthony 1:21:06.400 --> 1:21:09.000 Brown Jr. I am firmly in the camp of keeping 1:21:09.080 --> 1:21:11.720 Dave Caldwell and Doug Maron. I think coach Maron has 1:21:11.800 --> 1:21:14.360 done great this year. Also with their record, they would 1:21:14.360 --> 1:21:16.599 be able to coach the Senior Bowl, which would give 1:21:16.680 --> 1:21:19.519 them a leg up in the draft. I didn't see 1:21:19.520 --> 1:21:24.639 a question there, Pete. But yeah, look, I don't see 1:21:24.680 --> 1:21:27.080 that happening. I just don't. I don't. I don't think 1:21:27.080 --> 1:21:30.160 they're coming back one. How do you sell that to 1:21:30.240 --> 1:21:32.080 your fan base? I don't think you can. Come on, 1:21:32.200 --> 1:21:36.439 let's be honest about it. JP, There's no way. Yeah, 1:21:36.479 --> 1:21:38.439 I mean it's And as far as coaching the Senior Bowl, 1:21:38.520 --> 1:21:41.519 that's very helpful if you do coach a senior Bowl, 1:21:41.640 --> 1:21:45.400 if there is a Senior Bowl. We coached three in 1:21:45.479 --> 1:21:50.479 a row, Pete, I know, but it usually helpful. Three 1:21:51.400 --> 1:21:55.360 found guys in it? Three which ones? Which ones did 1:21:55.400 --> 1:21:58.160 they coach? They coached? Um would have been what fifteen 1:21:58.320 --> 1:22:07.559 sixteen fourteen fifteen sixteen? Yeah, yeah, should be helpful. I mean, 1:22:08.000 --> 1:22:09.640 I mean, mobile is cool and all. I mean we 1:22:09.720 --> 1:22:11.200 were there for a few days in a week and 1:22:11.240 --> 1:22:14.519 all that stuff. I mean like mobile. But alright, let's 1:22:14.520 --> 1:22:18.280 move on social Number three. This is at CF Zeller's 1:22:18.439 --> 1:22:21.519 for what's the one quality you would look for above 1:22:21.600 --> 1:22:27.160 the rest for a head coach? Inspirational, spirited, offensive, guru coaching, 1:22:27.280 --> 1:22:30.000 three roots attitude, not at all trying to pile on 1:22:30.160 --> 1:22:32.519 Doug with the expectations that were set this year are 1:22:32.600 --> 1:22:37.599 what they are. Great show what do you think being 1:22:37.760 --> 1:22:41.760 able to things? For me, being able to lead men 1:22:43.280 --> 1:22:46.000 and delegate. And by that I mean if you hire 1:22:46.080 --> 1:22:49.200 good coaches, let them coach. If you believe in nothing 1:22:49.280 --> 1:22:51.840 them got those guys to hire them, let them coach. 1:22:52.280 --> 1:22:58.520 But you gotta be able to handle the big picture, clock, management, uh, discipline, 1:22:59.560 --> 1:23:02.080 all the the things that I think it takes to 1:23:02.120 --> 1:23:04.479 be a head coach. You don't have to be you 1:23:04.520 --> 1:23:06.519 don't have to be the guy making the game plan. 1:23:06.760 --> 1:23:08.400 You don't have to be the guy calling the play. 1:23:10.120 --> 1:23:11.800 And you see that a lot with some of the 1:23:11.960 --> 1:23:14.360 You know, Mike Tomlin handles the big picture, and I 1:23:14.439 --> 1:23:16.799 think he does a great job with it. Yeah, manage 1:23:16.840 --> 1:23:19.000 everybody and get the right people in place to do 1:23:19.160 --> 1:23:22.160 all that. And then you just know how to handle people. Yeah, 1:23:22.360 --> 1:23:24.600 you handle your people, You handle your coaches, You let 1:23:24.640 --> 1:23:27.080 your coaches coach, and you handle your players. You treat 1:23:27.160 --> 1:23:30.080 them with respect, you treat them like men. And but 1:23:30.240 --> 1:23:32.439 you also have to have a firm hand. You can't 1:23:32.560 --> 1:23:35.639 let what happened in Jacksonville in two thousand and seventeen 1:23:35.680 --> 1:23:38.679 and eighteen happen again. And if you have the right guy, 1:23:38.760 --> 1:23:41.960 he's not going to allow that to happen again. Our 1:23:42.080 --> 1:23:47.320 next question from at Waco Grina from down in Argentina. Hey, 1:23:47.360 --> 1:23:50.160 they're good afternoon. The JP Pete and Tony trio on 1:23:50.240 --> 1:23:54.440 Monday is amazing. Draft mode for Tony is best player available? 1:23:54.880 --> 1:23:57.640 But which are the most needed positions to draft and 1:23:57.760 --> 1:24:04.000 which ones can be addressed in free agency salutos best 1:24:04.080 --> 1:24:08.960 player available. You have to draft the quarterback at number two. 1:24:09.160 --> 1:24:11.320 If there are number two, they're taking just the field. 1:24:12.200 --> 1:24:14.120 If it's not, you know, if he's you have to 1:24:14.560 --> 1:24:17.200 that's that's a given. But I think this is one 1:24:17.200 --> 1:24:20.320 of those things, and Tony kind of nailed it. It's 1:24:20.400 --> 1:24:22.400 been a philosophy of mine for a long time. JP 1:24:23.920 --> 1:24:27.920 you draft around the quarterback. And I've always said this, 1:24:28.439 --> 1:24:30.679 it used to be a four pronged approach the draft, 1:24:30.760 --> 1:24:34.280 and you draft the quarterback. You draft the guy who 1:24:34.320 --> 1:24:36.880 can knock down the quarterback. You draft the guy who 1:24:36.920 --> 1:24:39.439 can keep that guy from knocking down the quarterback, which 1:24:39.520 --> 1:24:43.960 is your offensive lineman tackle preferably, you draft the guy 1:24:43.960 --> 1:24:47.799 who knocks the quarterback passes down, which is the wide receiver. 1:24:48.320 --> 1:24:50.519 And now the way the game is played, you have 1:24:50.640 --> 1:24:52.599 to add a fifth to that, and that's the big 1:24:52.640 --> 1:24:56.040 play wide receiver. It's become a five pronged approach to 1:24:56.160 --> 1:25:00.120 winning and drafting. And if you fill those spots and 1:25:00.200 --> 1:25:03.280 they're all good players, probably gonna have a pretty done 1:25:03.280 --> 1:25:06.080 good team. That your hand was right in the camera 1:25:06.200 --> 1:25:11.080 there for those watching on the video. Okay, I mean, right, Yeah, 1:25:11.200 --> 1:25:15.200 if you have those five players, you have a star 1:25:15.360 --> 1:25:20.439 pass rusher, a star quarterback, a really quality left tackle, 1:25:20.840 --> 1:25:23.519 a corner who could play man coverage and lockdown one 1:25:23.600 --> 1:25:26.760 side of the field, and a big play receiver, your 1:25:26.800 --> 1:25:28.960 team is probably gonna be pretty good. Haven't they done 1:25:29.000 --> 1:25:31.000 that around here? Last few years? They thought they did, 1:25:31.080 --> 1:25:32.920 They just didn't pick the right guys or those guys 1:25:33.000 --> 1:25:38.320 are now on other teams. Think about well, okay, the quarterbacks, 1:25:39.200 --> 1:25:43.760 they flopped major quarterback drafts slopped them all left, which flop, 1:25:44.680 --> 1:25:49.599 never flop. Right, there's your over, so you're over at 1:25:49.640 --> 1:25:56.120 that position. Pass rusher, Dante Fowler fop uh, Josh Allen 1:25:56.680 --> 1:25:59.599 good to be determined how good he can be. Chason 1:25:59.800 --> 1:26:03.800 is nothing. Um so that's you know. And Gockway was 1:26:03.880 --> 1:26:06.639 a hit sort of but but he was the third 1:26:06.720 --> 1:26:11.120 round right, yeah, sorry, we're talking about your your now 1:26:11.200 --> 1:26:13.479 that Tony's back. Your approach. You talk about being good 1:26:13.520 --> 1:26:14.920 on the line and being good on the quarterback. And 1:26:14.960 --> 1:26:17.400 I've always had the four proNT approach. The drafting is 1:26:17.439 --> 1:26:20.640 now a five proNT approach. You get the quarterback, the 1:26:20.680 --> 1:26:22.839 guy who knocks the quarterback down, the guy who protects 1:26:22.880 --> 1:26:24.840 the quarterback and keeps those guys from knocking them down. 1:26:25.040 --> 1:26:27.800 And the guy who knocks the quarterbacks passes down on 1:26:27.880 --> 1:26:30.120 the outside of the corner. If you get those four 1:26:30.240 --> 1:26:31.920 and I've added the big play receiver because of the 1:26:31.960 --> 1:26:34.160 way the game is played now, but you get those five, 1:26:34.680 --> 1:26:37.000 the team is probably gonna be pretty good. So I 1:26:37.040 --> 1:26:39.360 would argue it's hard to get all those. Number one 1:26:40.120 --> 1:26:42.960 right past, pass rusher is more important than d B 1:26:43.479 --> 1:26:45.719 every day of the week. Yes, of course I agree, 1:26:45.880 --> 1:26:48.640 and so like, just focus on this, Go find go 1:26:48.800 --> 1:26:51.240 find a quarterback, Go find a pass rusher, and go 1:26:51.280 --> 1:26:53.560 find people who can protect the quarterback. Go do that. 1:26:53.920 --> 1:26:55.640 You're going to be a good team. If you can 1:26:55.680 --> 1:26:58.120 protect the quarterback and control the line of scrimmage with 1:26:58.280 --> 1:27:00.960 a good quarterback, you're gonna be good. If you can 1:27:01.200 --> 1:27:04.240 rush the quarterback and hit him, then guess what, your 1:27:04.280 --> 1:27:08.920 secondary gets a lot better. Of course, But but again 1:27:09.520 --> 1:27:15.800 I thought that is more important than get in the guard. Um. 1:27:16.200 --> 1:27:18.600 Drew Brees would disagree with you. He wants to he 1:27:18.680 --> 1:27:23.040 wants a firm inside because he's like the two best 1:27:23.080 --> 1:27:26.160 positions on his line of the right tackle. Let I 1:27:26.240 --> 1:27:28.720 agree with you, that's fair, But My point is saying this. 1:27:28.800 --> 1:27:31.360 I was talking to the defensive coordinator, very well respected, 1:27:32.439 --> 1:27:35.600 whose coaches good defenses, and everyone listening. It's not it 1:27:35.720 --> 1:27:39.360 was not Gus Bradley with someone else. Um that UM 1:27:39.479 --> 1:27:45.080 told me is his corners well to like come say, 1:27:45.120 --> 1:27:47.000 it's like, hey, where's the pass rush? Because they know 1:27:48.600 --> 1:27:52.880 could you only can cover so long? If you like, 1:27:53.200 --> 1:27:54.680 let me tell you what you want to know. Where 1:27:54.680 --> 1:27:57.360 the Rams defense is. Past defense is really good. It's 1:27:57.360 --> 1:27:58.920 not like Jalen Rams is a big part of it. 1:27:58.960 --> 1:28:01.439 He's a very good player. But they're good because they 1:28:01.479 --> 1:28:05.120 can rush the passer with They have thirty one sacks 1:28:05.200 --> 1:28:10.880 their second and there there the league attack. They pressures right. 1:28:11.760 --> 1:28:15.120 But but again, you know, there's this old perception out 1:28:15.120 --> 1:28:18.320 there now in analytic world that the dbs are more 1:28:18.360 --> 1:28:21.280 important than the than the defensive line. And I don't 1:28:21.360 --> 1:28:25.439 believe it one better either. I'm with you. Let's get 1:28:25.479 --> 1:28:29.760 to our next question from at UCF Jaguar. How much 1:28:29.840 --> 1:28:33.920 of this is bad drafting versus not developing talent? Our 1:28:33.960 --> 1:28:37.920 players are always regressing. No way, Guys like Juwan Taylor, 1:28:38.080 --> 1:28:41.280 Josh Allen, and DJ Chart should be worse than they 1:28:41.320 --> 1:28:46.360 were last year. And they I don't think DJ Shark 1:28:46.520 --> 1:28:49.960 is well he was banged up though, yeah, but I 1:28:49.960 --> 1:28:53.439 don't think he's playing with quarterbacks. He's he better watch out. 1:28:53.479 --> 1:28:55.679 He'd end up being like Allen Robinson, never being able 1:28:55.680 --> 1:28:58.000 to play with a good quarterback. I don't think it's 1:28:58.360 --> 1:29:01.479 I don't think it's DJ. I just a good dj um. 1:29:03.640 --> 1:29:07.519 But the other two have regressed, well, Josh, Allen's been hurt, 1:29:07.760 --> 1:29:11.479 Pete and how hurt is that? We don't know. Yeah, 1:29:11.520 --> 1:29:15.920 he's been hurt a couple of games. You want, Taylor 1:29:15.920 --> 1:29:21.000 has been as regrets that's fair or at least don't 1:29:21.040 --> 1:29:25.000 say he hasn't improved. It hasn't improved. Um, I mean 1:29:25.280 --> 1:29:28.120 I think, I mean, I think it's more. I think 1:29:28.160 --> 1:29:30.679 it's drafting more than anything. Go look at the overall roster. 1:29:31.160 --> 1:29:33.960 It's the roster billboard than anything. You're asking me and people, 1:29:34.040 --> 1:29:36.599 and people will say, well, they didn't have an off 1:29:36.640 --> 1:29:39.720 season to get better and do there, and but you've 1:29:39.760 --> 1:29:41.920 seen other guys on other teams get better from year 1:29:42.000 --> 1:29:43.880 one the year two. But people, what would you say 1:29:44.080 --> 1:29:46.439 if you looked at where this organization is right now? 1:29:47.040 --> 1:29:53.320 Is it more coaching or more player acquisition? Acquisition. We've 1:29:53.400 --> 1:29:55.960 ross through this before. Yeah, but but you could point 1:29:56.000 --> 1:29:57.680 to a guy like Jawan Taylor and put it on 1:29:57.760 --> 1:30:00.439 the coo. Okay, but yeah, that's one off. I'm looking 1:30:00.439 --> 1:30:04.479 at fifty three guys, right, But but I thought Jowan 1:30:04.560 --> 1:30:06.400 Taylor was gonna look like a monster this year, and 1:30:06.439 --> 1:30:11.920 it hasn't happened. He's been inconsistent that the coach staff 1:30:13.560 --> 1:30:19.160 not on him. It ultimately on the guy. What is 1:30:19.200 --> 1:30:21.200 he doing? If you're an offensive lineman, you're a tackle, 1:30:21.280 --> 1:30:23.519 you're gonna go to all things. What's he doing wrong? 1:30:24.240 --> 1:30:27.240 His hands aren't great, he turns too much, thank he's 1:30:27.240 --> 1:30:30.439 too vertical at times, he doesn't make good like he 1:30:30.560 --> 1:30:33.800 gave up a pressure hit just like poor set like 1:30:34.120 --> 1:30:36.840 like and it was like almost like a not recognizing 1:30:36.880 --> 1:30:40.160 the situation who you're blocking and where the guy you know, 1:30:40.320 --> 1:30:42.400 into your guys lined up, and what you're trying to do. 1:30:42.479 --> 1:30:44.680 It's like it was just like lack of where you know? 1:30:45.040 --> 1:30:47.000 Is that the one where t J. Watt came around 1:30:47.080 --> 1:30:50.160 and and he looked like he came from black to 1:30:50.240 --> 1:30:51.800 get in there and get him. It wasn't like it 1:30:51.880 --> 1:30:55.639 was no, it was outside. It was I mean, it's 1:30:55.640 --> 1:30:58.240 a look, you should know exactly what's coming and so 1:30:58.400 --> 1:31:01.479 that stuff mental more than fit and cool. I mean 1:31:01.520 --> 1:31:04.760 he could play. I'm convinced he could play. Yeah. I 1:31:04.840 --> 1:31:06.840 thought he would be a star this year. I thought 1:31:06.880 --> 1:31:08.439 he would be one of the better right tackles in 1:31:08.479 --> 1:31:14.320 the league this year. Alright, one final question here, Um, 1:31:14.560 --> 1:31:16.679 this actually is not even a question, it's a comment 1:31:16.840 --> 1:31:19.200 at Janko Jack nine O four. At this point, I'd 1:31:19.240 --> 1:31:21.799 be more entertained watching Bassell and Prisco in a boxing 1:31:21.880 --> 1:31:24.519 match every Sunday than watching what I'm seeing every week. 1:31:24.960 --> 1:31:27.599 My money is on BASSELLI Prisco looks like he would 1:31:27.600 --> 1:31:31.320 punch below the belt, seeing that he's four ft three. Wow, 1:31:31.520 --> 1:31:34.720 that's a shot. Well, hey, I'm not four ft three. 1:31:34.840 --> 1:31:37.360 But b if I'm fighting Tony Bassell, I'm punching him. 1:31:37.560 --> 1:31:42.320 You know where I'm punching him. It's gonna way. Tony 1:31:42.400 --> 1:31:48.760 would have a higher pitched voice singing Pete and I 1:31:48.800 --> 1:31:52.439 don't want to fight. He would abuse me. He's a 1:31:52.479 --> 1:31:54.800 big man. Hurt It looks like it would hurt too. 1:31:54.880 --> 1:31:56.800 It's just I'm too old to fight. Who wants to fight? 1:31:57.800 --> 1:32:03.880 I'd go shoulder first, hips I would just say it's 1:32:03.880 --> 1:32:07.280 all you congratulated. You win. I don't want to get 1:32:07.280 --> 1:32:09.840 thrown around by a big man. I'll tell you that 1:32:10.000 --> 1:32:14.200 right now. I love it. Social questions are done. Thank 1:32:14.280 --> 1:32:17.639 you for the submissions today. We'll be back with more 1:32:17.960 --> 1:32:20.240 next week. 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After 1:36:20.520 --> 1:36:25.320 the Steelers knocked off the Jaguars yesterday. Three Steelers are 1:36:25.360 --> 1:36:28.400 ten and oh the Jaguars are not there one and nine. 1:36:28.439 --> 1:36:31.200 They've lost nine straight. It's time now for the a 1:36:31.400 --> 1:36:35.439 f C South. How are rankings and review. You're shaking 1:36:35.479 --> 1:36:37.080 your head, Pete, what are you shaking your head out? 1:36:37.920 --> 1:36:43.960 Because the Steelers have a legitimate chance to go undefeated, well, 1:36:44.280 --> 1:36:48.240 and they have full for Thursday night. Baltimore is bad 1:36:48.360 --> 1:36:53.160 right now. Then they have the toughest game remaining is 1:36:53.200 --> 1:37:01.680 at Buffalo game. Losing that one, Yeah, that's it. You 1:37:01.720 --> 1:37:03.840 know what's gonna happen. They're gonna clinch the division on 1:37:03.920 --> 1:37:06.920 Thursday night essentially and be jocking for home field advantage. 1:37:06.920 --> 1:37:08.760 Of people are saying, oh, it might be better off 1:37:08.800 --> 1:37:13.439 if they lose a game. No, it's not win them all. 1:37:16.000 --> 1:37:19.040 Let's look around the ANFC South. Yesterday, the Titans over 1:37:19.080 --> 1:37:21.799 the Ravens in overtime, thirty to twenty four, Derrick Henry 1:37:21.960 --> 1:37:26.280 to the house in the extra period, Pete Lamar Jackson, Man, 1:37:26.400 --> 1:37:30.120 they passing game is so limited. This is a passing league, 1:37:30.160 --> 1:37:33.880 and you keep teams in the game, That's what's gonna happen. Uh. 1:37:34.400 --> 1:37:36.360 I went back and I actually was doing something on 1:37:36.439 --> 1:37:39.200 him today and I went back. He's starting like fifty 1:37:39.280 --> 1:37:42.679 fewer passes on first down. Then Kyler Murray and Josh Allen, 1:37:42.720 --> 1:37:45.000 both quarterbacks who move around. They gotta let him throw 1:37:45.040 --> 1:37:48.599 an early downs wor let it happen. If he can't 1:37:48.640 --> 1:37:50.760 do it, then you got the wrong guy. Let him, 1:37:50.880 --> 1:37:54.760 Let him play fast and free and first down. Yeah. 1:37:54.880 --> 1:37:57.120 And I mean, I think here's the other thing is 1:37:57.960 --> 1:38:01.840 they got. I mean, you're right, his ability to runs great, 1:38:02.720 --> 1:38:05.559 but it can't be everything. You cannot. I don't think 1:38:05.600 --> 1:38:08.000 you can win consistently if that's the only thing you 1:38:08.040 --> 1:38:10.560 could do. And and I think he's regrets because I 1:38:10.600 --> 1:38:12.439 thought he was doing I thought he was better last year. 1:38:12.439 --> 1:38:14.960 In the pocket, they're throwing the ball and now you 1:38:15.040 --> 1:38:19.120 know this was you know, maybe a couple of weeks ago. 1:38:19.160 --> 1:38:21.320 But Hollywood Brown their four and first round pick, not 1:38:21.439 --> 1:38:25.120 happy again. Zero catches, three targets, zero catches. But you 1:38:25.200 --> 1:38:28.400 know what to Tony. Teams are playing more nickel and 1:38:28.520 --> 1:38:32.439 dime against him, playing more man and on third down particularly, 1:38:32.520 --> 1:38:34.479 and they're asking him to go make the accurate throw 1:38:34.520 --> 1:38:36.360 and he's not making it. You know, when you play, 1:38:36.520 --> 1:38:38.080 when you run the ball like he runs the ball, 1:38:38.080 --> 1:38:40.240 you can play that zone and he'll stick it in 1:38:40.320 --> 1:38:42.240 the tight endle curl in the middle of it. You'll 1:38:42.280 --> 1:38:45.440 hit him for a past. But now there's not they're 1:38:45.479 --> 1:38:48.200 not really worried about it as much. And the offensive 1:38:48.200 --> 1:38:50.760 line and the offensive lines beat up and you know 1:38:50.800 --> 1:38:53.639 they've got all kinds of issues. Right Stanley out Scura, 1:38:53.800 --> 1:38:55.759 they bench because he can't snap all of a sudden, 1:38:55.840 --> 1:38:58.760 something's going on there, I mean, and then and then no, 1:38:59.240 --> 1:39:01.240 they didn't have you into this year, which hurt them 1:39:01.240 --> 1:39:05.720 a great deal. But again though it's more him he's 1:39:05.720 --> 1:39:09.920 got I think again, this happened with Kaepernick when when 1:39:10.040 --> 1:39:14.679 Roman ran the Kaepernick offense. Eventually it leveled off because 1:39:15.120 --> 1:39:19.080 people they figure it out. Yeah, but the Titans give 1:39:19.120 --> 1:39:22.080 them credit because they were done in that game. They 1:39:22.080 --> 1:39:23.720 were down to eleven. I didn't think they were gonna 1:39:23.760 --> 1:39:25.599 be able and Dan I was scattered shooting it all 1:39:25.640 --> 1:39:27.360 over the place for a while, and they found the 1:39:27.400 --> 1:39:29.120 way to come back. You gotta give their tough, their 1:39:29.160 --> 1:39:31.080 physical and that was a big win for them. What 1:39:31.320 --> 1:39:35.439 was what was going on between Harbor and they kind 1:39:35.479 --> 1:39:38.680 of celebrated on the logo. I think the Titans and 1:39:38.840 --> 1:39:40.920 Hardball took offense to it and that's where they got in. 1:39:41.080 --> 1:39:43.240 There was some free game stuff too, right, the Titans 1:39:43.280 --> 1:39:46.320 guys and the Ravens coaches were laughing at each other 1:39:46.439 --> 1:39:49.280 pre game. Yep, yep. Let mean to say that's not 1:39:49.560 --> 1:39:52.960 that's I mean Harbor wants none of that? Would not well, 1:39:54.760 --> 1:39:59.320 might we played it out onebel don't you think Rabels 1:39:59.360 --> 1:40:03.599 the in a thirty two fight off between the end coaches. 1:40:03.640 --> 1:40:08.200 He's the last one standing. Let me go through real quick. Um, 1:40:10.320 --> 1:40:12.280 I think Doug would get some shots in, but he 1:40:12.320 --> 1:40:15.120 would he would be like Pete. He would he would 1:40:15.160 --> 1:40:18.439 play a little dirty just because that's okay. I think 1:40:20.120 --> 1:40:21.920 Doug would be a good match. I mean he's a 1:40:22.000 --> 1:40:24.280 big dog dog would beat Doug. Would be good. But 1:40:24.439 --> 1:40:27.519 what about um, Like back in the day, not now. 1:40:27.720 --> 1:40:29.439 Ron Rivera would have been a good fight back in 1:40:29.479 --> 1:40:31.560 the day. But Ron, I bet you still have some 1:40:31.640 --> 1:40:34.479 fight in him. He'd be like, okay, let me tell you. 1:40:34.920 --> 1:40:37.120 You know, Jack del Rio might have been that right 1:40:37.400 --> 1:40:40.240 Bell Belichick would have some scheme he tried to figure out. 1:40:42.680 --> 1:40:45.120 We all know. Yeah, it would be even fun to 1:40:45.160 --> 1:40:47.080 see who would who would be? I think Rabel would 1:40:47.080 --> 1:40:52.280 be one of the last men's standing. I think Rivera Rabel. Yeah. 1:40:53.960 --> 1:40:56.479 Then there's some sneaky guys like I think Anthony Lynn 1:40:56.560 --> 1:41:01.960 is sneaky, tough. He's another one for I forgot Anthony. Yeah, 1:41:02.040 --> 1:41:04.639 you would be there definitely in the end. He carry 1:41:04.720 --> 1:41:09.640 your first one out. No, yeah, he'd be one of them. 1:41:10.280 --> 1:41:13.080 He's out of there. Uh, Texans over the Patriots, by 1:41:13.120 --> 1:41:19.200 the way, bad boss, bad loss for the Patriots. Yeah, 1:41:19.960 --> 1:41:22.600 goodwin for the Texans. I mean they you know what 1:41:22.720 --> 1:41:24.160 the Texas did. They came out and they threw the 1:41:24.200 --> 1:41:26.800 ball and early down They had been doing much more 1:41:26.840 --> 1:41:31.479 of that with without Phill O'Brien and Deshaun Watson played better. Yeah, 1:41:31.520 --> 1:41:33.120 that's a bad loss for Patriots. But that's a good 1:41:33.160 --> 1:41:38.040 win for the Texas. I mean alive. But I thought 1:41:38.200 --> 1:41:41.400 I thought the Patriots would just Patriots run all over them. 1:41:41.560 --> 1:41:45.280 I did too, I did too. Didn't happen. The Colts 1:41:45.439 --> 1:41:47.600 were down big in the game, but they rallied to 1:41:47.720 --> 1:41:50.519 beat the Packers and over time. The Packers fumbled in 1:41:50.680 --> 1:41:52.960 over time to set up the game winning field goal. 1:41:53.040 --> 1:41:55.880 And this was a fun game to watch down the stretch. Yeah, 1:41:55.960 --> 1:41:58.920 the Packers have defensive problems stopping the run, and the Colts, 1:41:59.200 --> 1:42:01.639 the cult should have put game away in regulation. He said, 1:42:01.680 --> 1:42:03.920 I don't know if you guys saw that. They're trying 1:42:03.920 --> 1:42:06.240 to run out the clock and they keep getting holding penalties. 1:42:07.080 --> 1:42:10.080 It was amazing. They ended up with a third Wood 1:42:10.160 --> 1:42:12.320 could have been a third and third or second and thirty. 1:42:12.920 --> 1:42:14.080 It took him out, you know, it took him out 1:42:14.080 --> 1:42:16.639 of field goal range, and they punted and then Rogers 1:42:16.680 --> 1:42:21.920 went down. And look, the Packers have defensive issues, the 1:42:22.040 --> 1:42:25.000 Colts might have some offensive issues, and so it kind 1:42:25.000 --> 1:42:27.320 of evened out there. But they made a place where 1:42:27.320 --> 1:42:30.719 they had to. Is the offices are the offensive issues 1:42:30.840 --> 1:42:34.040 for the Colts? One Philip Rivers, No, because he didn't 1:42:34.040 --> 1:42:39.080 actually play that poorly. Let I think, yes, you know 1:42:39.120 --> 1:42:42.920 you always talk about the Titans playmakers, Pittman starting to 1:42:42.960 --> 1:42:44.600 make some plays, but t Y Hill has been a 1:42:44.640 --> 1:42:48.920 major disappointment this year. Yeah, all right, quickly, guys, NFC 1:42:49.080 --> 1:42:51.960 South Power rankings. Um, I have an idea how they're 1:42:51.960 --> 1:42:56.600 gonna go, and Tony already spoiled. I passed. No, you 1:42:56.680 --> 1:43:00.360 gotta say it. He's saying it. One bold and they'll 1:43:00.400 --> 1:43:02.840 beat the Titans this week to really take hold of 1:43:02.880 --> 1:43:09.639 the division. Two Titans, three Texans, and way a way 1:43:09.760 --> 1:43:13.479 down is the Jaguars. But the Jaguars kind of one 1:43:13.560 --> 1:43:16.320 yesterday and here's why. Not only did they lose so 1:43:16.400 --> 1:43:19.920 they keep their draft position the Texans one, So now 1:43:20.040 --> 1:43:22.799 people won't keep saying the only two wins the Texas 1:43:22.880 --> 1:43:29.760 god came against the jag Wire. Yeah, I'll agree with 1:43:29.840 --> 1:43:33.280 the same power rankings. Um, although I think the Titans 1:43:33.320 --> 1:43:37.040 too upset the Pulps this week. You do dr back 1:43:37.160 --> 1:43:40.360 road games. That's tough, and I don't I don't think 1:43:40.360 --> 1:43:43.040 they will all Right now, time for the current not 1:43:43.240 --> 1:43:50.280 so powerful draft order NFL draft. Let's count down from 1:43:50.320 --> 1:43:53.880 ten to number one. As it stands today, Panthers four 1:43:53.960 --> 1:43:58.080 and seven or draft ten, Falcons three and seven, nine, 1:43:59.000 --> 1:44:01.679 the Texans eight, but the Dolphins get to pick their 1:44:01.720 --> 1:44:03.920 three and seven. The Giants at three and seven with 1:44:04.080 --> 1:44:06.960 draft seventh, The l A Chargers at three and seven 1:44:07.000 --> 1:44:10.400 will draft six. Washington Football team at three and seven 1:44:10.479 --> 1:44:14.240 with draft five, the Dallas Cowboys at three and seven 1:44:14.680 --> 1:44:18.880 would draft fourth, The Cincinnati Bengals at to seven and 1:44:19.040 --> 1:44:23.160 one would draft third, The Jacksonville Jaguars at one and 1:44:23.280 --> 1:44:27.120 nine drafting second, and the New York Jets are oh 1:44:27.200 --> 1:44:29.479 and ten. They have the first overall pick as it 1:44:29.560 --> 1:44:34.200 stands today, I think the way Jacksonville sitting right now, 1:44:34.280 --> 1:44:38.080 they're almost a lot to get either Trevor Lawrence or 1:44:38.120 --> 1:44:44.120 Justin Fields. Well you can't. I mean you have room 1:44:44.240 --> 1:44:46.000 to win one more. If you win two more in 1:44:46.080 --> 1:44:48.240 the Bengals don't win another game, which they might not 1:44:48.439 --> 1:44:52.880 without Joe Burrow, then you gotta worry about people going 1:44:52.920 --> 1:44:54.559 Then you gotta worry about people going up to get 1:44:54.600 --> 1:45:00.120 that right, pick right, So don't win again. Well, it's 1:45:00.160 --> 1:45:02.600 my head, that's my advice. Or win one more to 1:45:02.680 --> 1:45:04.680 make everybody feel good. Then you're locked in to get 1:45:04.760 --> 1:45:08.840 Justin Fields. If you win one more, would you rather 1:45:09.640 --> 1:45:13.479 here's here we go. Would you rather not win another one? 1:45:15.960 --> 1:45:20.200 Answers that the Jets lose one or win one, and no, 1:45:20.360 --> 1:45:22.920 you're gonna have that. You're not gonna win another one, 1:45:22.960 --> 1:45:25.160 and you're locked into at least two. Well, if you're 1:45:25.160 --> 1:45:31.120 gonna be fourteen or fifteen losses, doesn't matter, you can. 1:45:32.760 --> 1:45:35.679 So you've come aboard on the one of fifteen. Lock 1:45:35.800 --> 1:45:38.280 it off, right, you're a green. That's a lot. I'm 1:45:38.320 --> 1:45:42.040 not there yet, Peter. Is it a lock for you? Oh, 1:45:42.120 --> 1:45:46.200 it's a lock. It's a lot. One lock locked it in. 1:45:47.400 --> 1:45:50.000 And you know what, that's a good thing because if 1:45:50.040 --> 1:45:53.599 the Jets win one, you pick first. It depends who 1:45:53.640 --> 1:45:57.920 you ask that question, too true, if it's a good 1:45:58.080 --> 1:46:01.720 the grand scheme of things again on anybody in the 1:46:01.760 --> 1:46:05.080 locker room, the brand scheme of things, I would agree 1:46:05.080 --> 1:46:08.040 with that. I mean, I guarantee you if you ask 1:46:08.760 --> 1:46:13.400 DJ Chart and the wide receivers if they had a 1:46:13.560 --> 1:46:19.120 chance next year to play with Trevor Lawrence their games 1:46:19.160 --> 1:46:21.400 and you put them on that old line detector thing, 1:46:22.000 --> 1:46:24.920 you know what the sounds gonna be. You know what 1:46:25.080 --> 1:46:28.439 the sound will be. Hey, DJ, would you rather play 1:46:28.439 --> 1:46:30.760 with Trevor Lawrence or win one more game? Oh? I'd 1:46:30.840 --> 1:46:40.639 rather win one more game? You're terrible. Would you rather 1:46:40.720 --> 1:46:44.439 have five seven good years with Trevor Lawrence or win 1:46:44.600 --> 1:46:47.639 one more meaningless game? I think that's an easy question. 1:46:48.760 --> 1:46:51.280 All right, let's come back. We'll go around the National 1:46:51.320 --> 1:46:54.799 Football League from yesterday and Monday night football. 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JP Shadrick Peepri's go Tony Vassali, Let's go 1:50:36.880 --> 1:50:40.000 around the National Football League quickly from yesterday some other games. 1:50:40.160 --> 1:50:43.160 By the way, the Ravens have added a few guys 1:50:43.200 --> 1:50:45.760 to the COVID Night team list after the game yesterday. 1:50:46.120 --> 1:50:48.320 J K. Dobbins one of those, mark Ingram one of those. 1:50:48.400 --> 1:50:52.040 They played Thursday night on Thanksgiving Night. How did they 1:50:52.080 --> 1:50:55.920 play on Sunday? I don't know, but they tested positive. 1:50:56.800 --> 1:51:00.120 They try tested positive this morning. I'm being sarcastic. By 1:51:00.160 --> 1:51:03.880 the way, Um, yeah, I mean they're not gonna play 1:51:03.920 --> 1:51:08.240 on Thursday, right So that means Gus Edwards will be 1:51:08.360 --> 1:51:10.880 your lead running back on Thursday. Means the Steelers about 1:51:10.880 --> 1:51:15.080 to heaven and know what it means to be better 1:51:15.120 --> 1:51:17.120 than the Ravens. And the Ravens have issues. That's not 1:51:17.240 --> 1:51:22.000 a good team right now. And who do they bring up? Yeah, 1:51:22.000 --> 1:51:24.439 that's a good question. Who. All right, let's let's touch 1:51:24.479 --> 1:51:26.360 in these other games quickly, go around the league. We'll 1:51:26.400 --> 1:51:29.360 touch on Monday football. Copping got Panthers over the Lions 1:51:29.600 --> 1:51:36.320 twenty to nothing. Lions are done patrician, by the way. 1:51:39.320 --> 1:51:42.680 They blow out the GM two. Yes, I think, yes, 1:51:42.960 --> 1:51:45.760 it's so there's your there's more competition. I mean, you 1:51:45.840 --> 1:51:47.960 know you talk about the Falcons. Now there's another group. 1:51:48.000 --> 1:51:51.920 And then you got the Texas four four teams looking 1:51:51.960 --> 1:51:57.000 for GM's possibly Browns. Browns over the Eagle seventeen. Big 1:51:57.080 --> 1:51:59.439 rushing and defensive day for the Browns coming in here 1:51:59.520 --> 1:52:02.839 next week. They can run the ball. And my goodness, 1:52:02.880 --> 1:52:04.840 I've got two backs. They've got a good offensive line. 1:52:05.600 --> 1:52:08.439 Um that team has. I mean, Baker Mayfield is like 1:52:08.479 --> 1:52:11.760 an afterthought. That team offensively, it's about Cream Hunt and 1:52:12.040 --> 1:52:14.880 Nick Chubb. But the Jaguards get a break though. No 1:52:15.000 --> 1:52:19.639 Miles Garrett Olivia Vernon played well last week, though he did, 1:52:19.920 --> 1:52:22.040 he did. But that offensive line, are they the best 1:52:22.120 --> 1:52:24.439 offensive line in the league right now? Tony I've only 1:52:24.479 --> 1:52:26.960 seen him one in the time I saw him. They're 1:52:27.000 --> 1:52:29.719 really good because the guards are really good. But Tonia 1:52:29.800 --> 1:52:33.960 and Teller, the center is good. Uh. And then you 1:52:34.000 --> 1:52:36.280 look at the right tackle conference playing well over there, 1:52:36.479 --> 1:52:39.120 and their left tackles starting to play better as a rookie. 1:52:39.160 --> 1:52:42.000 They're they're good up front. When I saw him early, 1:52:43.080 --> 1:52:45.880 the left tackle was coming along, really physical and the 1:52:46.160 --> 1:52:48.320 really physical player in the run game though, And they're 1:52:48.360 --> 1:52:49.880 good and they run. That's all everything they do is 1:52:49.920 --> 1:52:54.080 based on that run. Everything Saints over the Falcons twenty 1:52:54.200 --> 1:52:59.599 four nine. How the quarterback position work out? Pete, Oh, 1:53:00.280 --> 1:53:04.120 everybody wanted this. This reminds me of Tebow. I mean, 1:53:04.240 --> 1:53:07.080 it's like, let's rush him up. Oh my god, Look 1:53:07.120 --> 1:53:10.360 what he can do is Tebow? Never how many people 1:53:10.479 --> 1:53:13.000 held onto the Tebow mania for years and there was 1:53:13.080 --> 1:53:16.400 one person that held the line and never would break 1:53:16.479 --> 1:53:18.280 and that was me. And I was right. And I 1:53:18.360 --> 1:53:21.479 don't think this kid's any good either as a quarterback. Look, 1:53:21.520 --> 1:53:24.600 all I know is I went there on the sidelines 1:53:24.640 --> 1:53:27.280 with Bobby Abert. You know Bobby Hebert, he's covered. That's 1:53:27.680 --> 1:53:30.479 quarterback there, and we were talking and Bobby and his 1:53:30.600 --> 1:53:33.160 typical cage and accent, says, I don't know what he 1:53:33.240 --> 1:53:37.920 sees to him. He doesn't think he could pass? How 1:53:38.000 --> 1:53:40.040 do you I didn't see any of the game. How 1:53:40.560 --> 1:53:42.600 a couple it was okay, But I mean, can you 1:53:42.680 --> 1:53:45.120 get excited about a team that when the quarterback doesn't 1:53:45.120 --> 1:53:47.960 throw a touchdown pass against the Atlanta Falcon, we're giving 1:53:48.040 --> 1:53:50.799 up twenty eight points a game. Can you get excited 1:53:50.800 --> 1:53:52.599 about that? If that's what you want from your quarterback, 1:53:52.680 --> 1:53:58.639 then we'll give him kudos. The Washington over the Bengals 1:53:59.640 --> 1:54:04.719 nine borrow toward multiple ligaments in his left knee. Yeah, 1:54:04.920 --> 1:54:07.040 and that was bad. You hate to see it. You 1:54:07.120 --> 1:54:10.679 hate to see a guy having that kind of rookie 1:54:10.760 --> 1:54:13.840 year ago down. But you know, I hear today people 1:54:13.920 --> 1:54:15.680 talking about, oh, he might not be ready, he might 1:54:15.720 --> 1:54:20.400 not be ready. We've seen guys Rob Gronkowski tours a 1:54:20.520 --> 1:54:22.200 c L and his m c L in December and 1:54:22.280 --> 1:54:25.240 played on opening Day. The problem is he's gonna miss 1:54:25.280 --> 1:54:27.000 all the off season work that he didn't get this 1:54:27.120 --> 1:54:31.960 year either, that's the problem. Yeah, it's too bad. Unfortunately, 1:54:32.240 --> 1:54:34.640 uh As everyone knows injuries part of the game, and 1:54:34.680 --> 1:54:35.920 but you just hate to see it in such a 1:54:35.960 --> 1:54:41.160 good young player. Yeah, Broncos over the Dolphins, everybody hates 1:54:41.200 --> 1:54:44.400 to all of a sudden, why did they take him? Now? 1:54:45.440 --> 1:54:48.800 If you went to him, isn't the whole part of 1:54:48.920 --> 1:54:51.720 playing him is allowing him to have those type of 1:54:51.800 --> 1:54:54.880 situations where he's downten in the fourth quarter to see 1:54:54.920 --> 1:54:57.400 if he can get out from underneath the crap. Because 1:54:57.680 --> 1:54:59.640 because Pete, they think they're in a playoff team and 1:54:59.640 --> 1:55:02.400 they thought, okay, Patrick could bring him back. I get it, 1:55:02.520 --> 1:55:04.680 I understand that, but is this year are they even 1:55:04.680 --> 1:55:06.160 if they get the playoffs and they're gonna make a 1:55:06.200 --> 1:55:10.920 run in the playoffs. Done. So it's about building him. 1:55:11.640 --> 1:55:14.120 It's not about this year. I didn't how bad? How 1:55:14.240 --> 1:55:17.920 how bad did he look? Well? The offensive line guy 1:55:18.320 --> 1:55:22.200 just destroyed. He was getting crushed. They were that he 1:55:22.280 --> 1:55:24.640 didn't look great, but the line was bad and they 1:55:24.680 --> 1:55:27.320 had played pretty well as a group that that line. 1:55:27.480 --> 1:55:32.520 They're young chargers over the jetst Herbert has three or 1:55:32.560 --> 1:55:35.480 more passing touchdowns and five games. That's a rookie record. 1:55:36.720 --> 1:55:40.400 He's good that way. It comes out of his out 1:55:40.440 --> 1:55:43.240 of his hand. Uh. And he he threw a touchdown 1:55:43.280 --> 1:55:45.320 pass in the fourth quarter on Sunday. They went, oh 1:55:45.400 --> 1:55:49.880 my gosh, it just was a rifle shot between about 1:55:49.920 --> 1:55:53.680 three guys. He's good. He's really good. Apparently the Cowboys 1:55:53.720 --> 1:55:56.960 were fired up by the head coaches meeting when he 1:55:57.440 --> 1:56:00.520 used a sledgehammer like Gallagher and Small a bunch of 1:56:00.600 --> 1:56:03.200 watermelons in front of the team for the Cowboys and 1:56:03.240 --> 1:56:07.720 they beat the Vikings. Why did he get is this 1:56:07.880 --> 1:56:14.520 high school? Remember the acts in the locker room? Yeah, 1:56:14.640 --> 1:56:20.440 that worked well. I can't stand motivational crap. If you're 1:56:20.480 --> 1:56:26.040 not ready to play, what's wrong with you what, what's 1:56:26.080 --> 1:56:28.680 the sledgehammer in the watermelons? Don't know what was the acts? 1:56:28.880 --> 1:56:33.280 What was the acts? Chopping? Would keep chopping, chop, chop chop. 1:56:33.440 --> 1:56:39.360 This punter's camp off. It's hilarious. It's not the Chiefs 1:56:39.480 --> 1:56:46.120 over the Raiders five one. This was that was a 1:56:46.160 --> 1:56:48.640 good football game. Last time. That was a good football game. 1:56:48.640 --> 1:56:51.920 The Chiefs had defensive issues though, and look, give Derek 1:56:51.960 --> 1:56:54.680 car credit played well, but they have issues on defense. 1:56:54.720 --> 1:56:56.840 And then we know the Raiders do. Was there any 1:56:56.880 --> 1:56:59.080 doubt my Homes is getting the ball going right down 1:56:59.120 --> 1:57:02.840 to the field scoring and and can people quit raving 1:57:02.920 --> 1:57:05.560 about Jonathan abram because he makes a big hit or 1:57:05.600 --> 1:57:08.560 two the guy gets that was his coverage? What was 1:57:08.600 --> 1:57:11.520 he doing? He comes running up. If Mahomes scrambles for 1:57:11.640 --> 1:57:17.160 seven yard eight yards, who care? Right? Those are the 1:57:17.240 --> 1:57:20.480 games from yesterday in week eleven. Time for Monday Night 1:57:20.560 --> 1:57:23.600 football and a great battle on tampat Raymond James Stadium 1:57:23.640 --> 1:57:26.600 in Tampa. Aaron Donald Jalen Ramsey in the defense of 1:57:26.680 --> 1:57:29.600 the six and three Los Angeles Rams meet the goat, 1:57:29.680 --> 1:57:32.640 Tom Brady, Gronk and Leonard for that and the seven 1:57:32.680 --> 1:57:35.920 and three Tampa Bay Buccaneers fire the Cannons told meets 1:57:36.000 --> 1:57:38.200 Leather at eight fifteen, who you got tonight in Tampa. 1:57:40.320 --> 1:57:42.760 I think Tampa will win a close game. I think 1:57:42.800 --> 1:57:45.760 this is gonna. I want Tony because he's doing the 1:57:45.840 --> 1:57:49.400 game first series. If Tom Brady goes three and out, 1:57:49.760 --> 1:57:51.800 keep an eye on his body language, because you remember 1:57:51.800 --> 1:57:53.440 when he played at Night Dome a couple of weeks 1:57:53.440 --> 1:57:55.760 ago against the Saints. He went three and out and 1:57:55.840 --> 1:57:58.760 he started as Tom moping, and it carried over and 1:57:58.800 --> 1:58:01.120 he moped the entire game. He was terrible. And this 1:58:01.320 --> 1:58:03.520 you mentioned it, Tony. This Rams team could get after 1:58:03.600 --> 1:58:06.760 the quarterback. Well, the bigger issues this is the last 1:58:06.840 --> 1:58:09.880 three games. Tom Brady is one out of thirteen of 1:58:10.040 --> 1:58:14.080 passes that have traveled twenty or more yards. He's been 1:58:14.160 --> 1:58:17.080 wildly inaccurate down the field, and if you watch the tape, 1:58:17.080 --> 1:58:20.560 they're really inconsistent. Pete, it's like feast famine is an offense. 1:58:20.600 --> 1:58:23.160 And I worry about a good Rams defense that can 1:58:23.240 --> 1:58:25.160 cover you on the back half and rush the passer. 1:58:25.480 --> 1:58:27.200 I think that, But I think the Buccaneers win a 1:58:27.240 --> 1:58:28.560 close game. But I don't think there's a lot of 1:58:28.600 --> 1:58:30.880 points tonight. I don't either. And by the way, that 1:58:30.960 --> 1:58:34.400 other corner, Williams, is playing really well for the Rams. Yeah, 1:58:34.480 --> 1:58:38.320 Darius Williams. Yeah, they're They're good on defense, and they're defense. 1:58:38.320 --> 1:58:40.480 The coordinator has done a good job again, though, I 1:58:40.560 --> 1:58:42.360 want to you know, I think part of the reason 1:58:42.440 --> 1:58:45.000 Brady has been inaccurate. I think the eyes are coming 1:58:45.080 --> 1:58:47.840 out a little bit now because if you look at 1:58:47.840 --> 1:58:50.280 I watched the tape, the ones, he's not looking at 1:58:50.280 --> 1:58:52.240 the rush of the ones. I mean, these are guys 1:58:52.560 --> 1:58:54.760 wide open. He missed two wide up in post patterns. 1:58:54.800 --> 1:58:58.960 One Devans won to Antonio Brown. Antonio Brown in the 1:58:59.080 --> 1:59:01.520 game last weekend. I mean, guys wide open and he 1:59:01.680 --> 1:59:04.480 just sailed them. Okay, So the headline from today is 1:59:04.600 --> 1:59:09.800 basely Brady washed up. Yeah, I'm doing that. I'm not 1:59:09.920 --> 1:59:12.760 that guy. It'll be the clip after the game tonight, 1:59:12.840 --> 1:59:16.360 all over social media. Have a great call tonight, Tony, 1:59:16.640 --> 1:59:19.960 enjoy it ly on Westwood One. Is that where you're on? 1:59:21.720 --> 1:59:24.280 All right, Tony Vasselli out of here, Pete Frisco, out 1:59:24.320 --> 1:59:26.839 of here. For our entire crew, I'm J. P. Shadrick. 1:59:26.920 --> 1:59:29.760 Thank you for listening and thank you for watching on 1:59:29.920 --> 1:59:33.240 social media today We'll be back with you on Wednesday 1:59:33.360 --> 1:59:35.840 on the Jags Social channels at four o'clock with another 1:59:35.960 --> 1:59:39.320 edition of Jaguars Happy Hour. Bucky Brooks joins us. Then 1:59:39.720 --> 1:59:42.280 catch you next time Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars 1:59:42.320 --> 1:59:43.040 Digital Network