Speaker 1: It is Monday, November. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour on this Monday, the day
Speaker 1: after the loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers. It is Thanksgiving week.
Speaker 1: We have a lot to be thankful for. My name's
Speaker 1: j P. Shadrick, Pete Frisco, Tony Boselli coming up. We've
Speaker 1: got a busy program. The Steelers Jaguars review. We'll see
Speaker 1: what went wrong. Not a lot went right, especially for
Speaker 1: Jake Luton. He struggled for interceptions against the Steelers defense yesterday.
Speaker 1: We'll break all that down, the Jaguars defense walking wounded.
Speaker 1: We'll go around the FC South. We'll get to the
Speaker 1: social media questions, which there were many today, and the
Speaker 1: not so powerful draft order rankings, which has become unfortunately
Speaker 1: a staple on the show. And we'll go around the
Speaker 1: National Football League. Let's start with yesterday's game of Jack's
Speaker 1: Baul seven three to the Steelers, the ninth consecutive loss,
Speaker 1: tied for the longest losing streak in a single season
Speaker 1: in franchise history. The only other time they did that
Speaker 1: was Head coach Doug Marone not worried about himself. He's
Speaker 1: worried about the players and coaches. At the end of day,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to look in the mirror and say, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, have I done everything I possibly can? You know,
Speaker 1: if I if I've exhausted every avenue, have I you know,
Speaker 1: motivated to the best of my ability, If how I
Speaker 1: kept everything together? And I'm not gonna say that's that
Speaker 1: that that's a win. That's part of my job, that's
Speaker 1: my responsibility, and that's when I take, um a lot
Speaker 1: of pride in and I haven't been always been able
Speaker 1: to do that. And you guys know about the past,
Speaker 1: so I haven't been able to keep that you know,
Speaker 1: thing together at times. But um, you know, I feel
Speaker 1: I feel like I owe these guys everything that I have.
Speaker 1: That's just how I feel. Head coach Doug Marone. It's
Speaker 1: a struggle right now. Pete Prisco, Tony Baselli joining us
Speaker 1: on the program and to three now nine in a row. Guys,
Speaker 1: what's up, Pete Tony? I am breaking news real quick,
Speaker 1: just breaking news. We just we can actually change a
Speaker 1: segment on the show. I have the Jaguars now lasting
Speaker 1: the power ranking after they were third last week ago.
Speaker 1: They're officially where are you happen in the league? That's
Speaker 1: the question one. But you got your fingers crossed in
Speaker 1: their thirty second by the time the wait, by the
Speaker 1: time of the season, it's not pretty JP. And you
Speaker 1: know every Monday we get on here and we say, oh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna say the same old things again. Well, the
Speaker 1: reality is that's what happens when your team is bad.
Speaker 1: The question is is this the worst team in the
Speaker 1: history of the Jacksonville Jaguars, And the answer to that
Speaker 1: question is definitely yes. Well, here's an interesting stat Pete,
Speaker 1: I guess I hate to say, back that up. During
Speaker 1: this year, the average in the nine game losing streak UM.
Speaker 1: JP mentioned that the last one was that was year
Speaker 1: Gus Browdley got fired. The marginal defeat for this team
Speaker 1: is I think fifteen and a half points. The marginal
Speaker 1: defeat for that team was eight point three points. And
Speaker 1: so a whole time they're getting beat by a whole
Speaker 1: touchdown more UM then the last time this franchise had
Speaker 1: a nine game losing streak. It's the worst team. There's
Speaker 1: no way to sugarcoat it. It's by far the worst team.
Speaker 1: And they're gonna be changes coming, And the question becomes
Speaker 1: when do they come? Is there any reason at all
Speaker 1: to make those changes right now? I don't. Thanks, thanks
Speaker 1: be rough this week, right, I mean, come on, I mean,
Speaker 1: here's my problem with that, is it's a good it's
Speaker 1: a good question. I'm not going to answer it because
Speaker 1: I'm not it's not my responsibility to fire people or
Speaker 1: hire people, and I don't like firing people on the radio.
Speaker 1: And I've gotten I've gotten on other people who have
Speaker 1: fired people on the radio. Yeah, especially because it was
Speaker 1: a little premature. Um with that, I think it's a
Speaker 1: fair question because is there is there any doubt that
Speaker 1: it's it's going to happen. No, I don't think there's
Speaker 1: any doubt. I don't know how shot On can look
Speaker 1: the fan base and the media and the National Football
Speaker 1: League in the face and say we're gonna bring everybody back.
Speaker 1: I don't see how you can do that. So, but
Speaker 1: then the question becomes, if you wait until the end
Speaker 1: of the season, is that a disadvantage or are you
Speaker 1: hurting your franchise by doing that? We saw the Falcons
Speaker 1: clean house, and does that help them at all? Are
Speaker 1: they they already used these stories, They already have some
Speaker 1: candidates in mind. But don't you already know who the
Speaker 1: candidates are? I think the only thing that again if
Speaker 1: based on what you said, so it's assuming you're correct
Speaker 1: that everyone's getting, you know, cleaned out. I think the
Speaker 1: only thing I'm doing it sooner than later. Not on
Speaker 1: the coaching side, but if you're gonna clean house on
Speaker 1: the personnel on the GM side as well, getting that
Speaker 1: GM in place first so that that individual's ability to
Speaker 1: go hire the head coach that he wants. And we
Speaker 1: know how to work and we know how that works
Speaker 1: right after if you fire a guy on on Monday
Speaker 1: or after the season's over, you usually want that GM
Speaker 1: hired within a week to get your coaching search going
Speaker 1: right away. That's right, because coaching search and by the way,
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta start working, you know, figure out
Speaker 1: what you're doing in the draft, free agency, Senior Bowls
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, you know, only a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks away. You know what's that gonna look like in
Speaker 1: this COVID world, we don't even know. But there's a
Speaker 1: lot of work to be done. Um, not just hiring
Speaker 1: the coach, but also getting ready for the next year.
Speaker 1: If you're that personnel person, if you're the GM. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I mean, look, those guys are smart. They've been
Speaker 1: around the NFL a long time. They have to see
Speaker 1: the handwriting on the wall. They have to know what's coming,
Speaker 1: and I think they do. And it's like you said, Tony,
Speaker 1: it's never fun to fire people, but you're hired in
Speaker 1: that business to be fired. That's just the reality of it.
Speaker 1: It's terrible, but that's the reality of it. Come on,
Speaker 1: that's that's you. Name me a coach that doesn't get
Speaker 1: fired rare, very rare. Well, it is rare, but it
Speaker 1: still doesn't make it easy, especially around the holidays. We're
Speaker 1: talking about it right now. I'm not I love. I
Speaker 1: love to sit here and say, look, I respect all
Speaker 1: the people that I've ever encountered inside that building from
Speaker 1: a working standpoint, and Doug Morone, Dave call all of them.
Speaker 1: I know them all. I've come to like them and
Speaker 1: respect them. But they're not dumbies. They know they know
Speaker 1: what this league is it's the results oriented league. Well,
Speaker 1: it's not. It's just not. It is a result or
Speaker 1: in your league, and you're gonna you know, you have
Speaker 1: you've lost nine games in a row and and a
Speaker 1: lot of those games haven't been closed. In the bigger concern,
Speaker 1: I think outside of like, okay, the positives are you
Speaker 1: have cap space and you have draft picks. But then
Speaker 1: you say, okay, we have to make sure we use
Speaker 1: that cap space in those draft picks wisely. Okay, what
Speaker 1: give you the confidence that's gonna happen. Well, then you
Speaker 1: just have to revert right back to the current roster.
Speaker 1: Is this a good current roster? No? Okay, in the
Speaker 1: in the and the job of the individuals led by
Speaker 1: really Dave's job was to build this roster. And we
Speaker 1: sit here right now with the youngest team in the
Speaker 1: NFL and not overly talented, and at one and nine.
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean there's not some good pieces right and there,
Speaker 1: of course, but then the next guy who doesn't, if
Speaker 1: Dave does get fired, the next guy who comes in
Speaker 1: is going to have some young players that he can
Speaker 1: kind of build around a little bit. The problem is
Speaker 1: now it's starting to trickle up and you're starting to
Speaker 1: hear criticism of the ownership group, and so that's when
Speaker 1: it becomes yes and yesterday, what first I saw it
Speaker 1: was a tweet this second fastest to a hundred losses
Speaker 1: in the NFL as an owner? Is that right? Correct?
Speaker 1: If you count the playoff loss? Yes, So that's when
Speaker 1: now if you're Shot Khan and you're Tony Khan and
Speaker 1: you start seeing that kind of criticism, now it's bleeding
Speaker 1: up to you. It's gone from this to this and
Speaker 1: now it's up to you. So now you're sitting in
Speaker 1: a situation where you're going to be faced with hearing
Speaker 1: endless stream of criticism. But don't you think that started
Speaker 1: in JP? I love your perspective, cause you fault Twitter
Speaker 1: and you're having good handle on the fans better than anybody.
Speaker 1: But I think that started the last offseason, Pete, when
Speaker 1: there wasn't a change maybe last year. I think that's
Speaker 1: a good. Yeah, I think it is. Um. They took
Speaker 1: a lot of criticism for that to keeping its status quo.
Speaker 1: But but now, just but JP, don't you agree judgment
Speaker 1: by Twitter and social media and everything, now that it's
Speaker 1: it's elevated to a newer level. Above them to from
Speaker 1: you know here it's just Moron Pahl. Well, now it's
Speaker 1: gotten up to the to the con I think whether
Speaker 1: that's right or whether that's right. I mean, ultimately, you're
Speaker 1: the owner of the team. You're responsible for that. You
Speaker 1: hire and fire who you want. Well, I think that
Speaker 1: the hard part is right now, is it's not just
Speaker 1: a another losing season, another season of you know, double
Speaker 1: digit losses. There's not a lot of hope in the
Speaker 1: fan basese I mean, and that's where you really start
Speaker 1: getting worried. I mean, one, you look at the crowd
Speaker 1: yesterday was Steeler fans um Two. I mean you listen.
Speaker 1: I mean I hear it from people that I'm friends
Speaker 1: would playing golf withoos and hang out in the community
Speaker 1: with you. Here, it on talk radio, you hear it
Speaker 1: on Twitter, you know, you hear it everywhere. There's not
Speaker 1: even hope. It's not like the hope is like hopefully,
Speaker 1: you know, changes are made and we get Trevor Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence or Justin Fields. That's all anyone has to hang
Speaker 1: on to you right now. It's not like they say, man,
Speaker 1: we're hopeful because of the team we have and we
Speaker 1: we see a pathway to get there, to be good.
Speaker 1: And that's where you start getting really concerned because it's
Speaker 1: about all the entire organization at that point. And and
Speaker 1: to me, like, if that's the hope one d and
Speaker 1: one guy, then is that a sense of false hope?
Speaker 1: And you need a lot more than that. That's a
Speaker 1: that's a nice piece, that's a big piece, But it's
Speaker 1: not like you're gonna win next year. You get a
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, it cures your ills. Well, yes, And there's
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback in Cincinnati named Joe Burrow that everyone
Speaker 1: felt good until his knee went sideways because they couldn't
Speaker 1: protect him and he got finally the abuse that he
Speaker 1: got all year caught up to know that injury can
Speaker 1: happen any any quarterback in the league. Okay, that's exhibit one.
Speaker 1: You're right, it can. It's a dangerous game. Even if
Speaker 1: you have the best offensive line. Guys can't get hurt,
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. I'm not putting it on just that.
Speaker 1: I'll give you exhibit too. There's this guy called Andrew
Speaker 1: Luck who should be at the prime of his career
Speaker 1: right now, but because for five years, got the hell
Speaker 1: beat out of him decided he didn't want to play
Speaker 1: football anymore. And so it's not just it I see
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna I'm gonna flip on the other side
Speaker 1: of that one too. That speaks more about him than
Speaker 1: it does about I'm not saying. Okay, but my point
Speaker 1: is this. Here's my point, and I think you agree
Speaker 1: with me on this. If you want to have real hope,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, it starts with the quarterback. What you
Speaker 1: just said, no doubt about it. You and I are
Speaker 1: a line. You have to have a franchise quarterback to
Speaker 1: consistently win in this league. It's just the way it is,
Speaker 1: the way the game is designed now more than ever
Speaker 1: because of the rules and everything else. So we're agreement there,
Speaker 1: But I'll say this, you better have a quarterback, and
Speaker 1: after that, you better have somebody or multiple people who
Speaker 1: can affect the quarterback, meaning a defensive front, and you
Speaker 1: better have a bunch of dudes who can protect the quarterback.
Speaker 1: If you don't have the foundation of big people on
Speaker 1: both lines who can get after the quarterback and protect
Speaker 1: the quarterback and that quarterback, it is really hard to
Speaker 1: win in this league. Okay, let's let's let's been it forward.
Speaker 1: This team somehow had Justin Herbert and the same offensive
Speaker 1: line and the same skilled people, and James Robinson is
Speaker 1: a running back as is. Is that a good offense?
Speaker 1: It's it's pretty good. There there's your answer to your question.
Speaker 1: That line is a great Tony, that line is not great. Nobody,
Speaker 1: You're right, but you're still not. I don't think you
Speaker 1: have a winning record right now because you can't affect
Speaker 1: the quarterback. You have nine cents. That's the other side.
Speaker 1: You've also used a lot of draft capital on the
Speaker 1: other side of the ball to kind of which is
Speaker 1: a problem. That's great issue, but that you get the
Speaker 1: guy and then the rest of the stuff all fills
Speaker 1: in after it. You have to get the guys first.
Speaker 1: You can sild it. No, I understand what you're saying,
Speaker 1: but you can't build it and hope, like heck, you
Speaker 1: get the quarterback. You have to build it around the quarterback.
Speaker 1: I said it last year. I've said it multiple times
Speaker 1: and again nothing gets Gardner Minshew. I said that on
Speaker 1: this show. We talked about it. I said on other
Speaker 1: shows to the people, I would have drafted a quarterback
Speaker 1: and gone after a quarterback. This year because I wasn't
Speaker 1: sure Gardner minshows the franchise quarterback. And until you have
Speaker 1: that guy, you have to be chasing to get that guy.
Speaker 1: And this goes back to this take away. There are
Speaker 1: two draft picks d J. Anderson and Chase on and
Speaker 1: if you traded up to get Herbert, the franchise would
Speaker 1: be in fifty thousand times better shape than it is
Speaker 1: right now. There would be like you just said before,
Speaker 1: that's my point. In Los Angeles for the Chargers, they
Speaker 1: have a bunch of issues. They don't know how to
Speaker 1: win games, that can't close out games and everything else.
Speaker 1: There might be a there might be a head coaching
Speaker 1: change there as well this year. You know, it's probably
Speaker 1: a coin flip right now. But you know what, the
Speaker 1: ten Charger fans that are actually in l A they
Speaker 1: have bigger issues that I mean fans, But the ten
Speaker 1: that are in they are hopeful because they watched that
Speaker 1: guy actor for three fifty every week and stand in
Speaker 1: the pocket and make plays on schedule and off schedule,
Speaker 1: and they're like, you know what, we got our guys.
Speaker 1: We might need to get a coach. We might need
Speaker 1: to if we don't change the coach we might have
Speaker 1: to figure out how to stay healthy. There's other issues,
Speaker 1: but they have the guy Selly just made a fans
Speaker 1: crack about another team top of cattle. Can't do that.
Speaker 1: How many years of the Jaguar fans taking a beating
Speaker 1: and people don't understand that there's actually a big type
Speaker 1: fan base. They're just tired all losing. Is there a
Speaker 1: big fan there was a there was a good fan
Speaker 1: base in San Diego. I'm not saying the old time
Speaker 1: Charger fans good fan you're telling me there's a really
Speaker 1: a fan base in l A for the Charger. In Jansonville,
Speaker 1: there's a fan base, That's what I'm saying. I have.
Speaker 1: But they're not going to the games. I know. But
Speaker 1: guess what since the Chargers moved there, Usually when the
Speaker 1: team moves to a new city for the first year,
Speaker 1: like people can't wait to go. The first year they
Speaker 1: were there, they couldn't sell at the stadium. Pete, the
Speaker 1: Chargers have been there before and played remember way back
Speaker 1: in a day and they were the Los Angeles Chargers
Speaker 1: at well. Boy, but you know what I'm saying. Yes,
Speaker 1: But Tony, don't come on. You've been defending that Jacksonville
Speaker 1: for years and year because they have a good because
Speaker 1: there's fans here. Now there isn't not right now, there
Speaker 1: isn't No, there's fans here. They are tired of it,
Speaker 1: though they're mad. Even worse than that, I wish they
Speaker 1: were really mad. I fear that the start of apathy
Speaker 1: is coming in. So are there chances like yesterday? Are
Speaker 1: there chance? Or people two nights? Are Are they getting mad?
Speaker 1: Are they angry? You couldn't there was more Steeler fans, Pete,
Speaker 1: I'm not making this up. JPU was there when I say,
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe that's a little bit of exaggeration, but
Speaker 1: it was a lot of towels being slung around yesterday.
Speaker 1: I'll say that, let's come back plenty ahead, will I
Speaker 1: get into the office performance and what's next at the
Speaker 1: quarterback position? This year? We won't go in the next year.
Speaker 1: We will later in the show, but not this coming segment,
Speaker 1: we'll discuss Luton's day yesterday and the decisions possibly ahead
Speaker 1: the final six weeks of the season. Second hour of
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Speaker 1: don't think it disrupted my my rhythm. Um No, I'm
Speaker 1: here to go through my reads and get the ball
Speaker 1: in the heads of my playmakers. And I didn't do
Speaker 1: a good enough job of that. Um you know, I
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Speaker 1: enough time to get the ball out and I just
Speaker 1: did Next to Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour on Monday afternoon.
Speaker 1: That's Jake Luton, the Jaguars quarterback after seven three loss
Speaker 1: to the Steelers in week eleven, nine straight losses. Now
Speaker 1: for the Jags j P, Shadrick, Pete Frisco and Tony
Speaker 1: VASSELLI glad you're along with us today and that brings
Speaker 1: us to the offensive discussion yesterday. Jake Luton sixteen of
Speaker 1: thirty seven passing one yards, no touchdown, four interceptions, a
Speaker 1: fifteen point five rating. Those are the stats in the game,
Speaker 1: and you know it once they got behind by a
Speaker 1: couple of scores and the running game was pretty much
Speaker 1: out the window. We talked about a pregame Tony that
Speaker 1: you kind an idea of what the Steelers defense could
Speaker 1: do and and Luton I just didn't really have it
Speaker 1: later in the game, and Doug Maron actually said after
Speaker 1: the game he was thinking about bringing in Mike Lennan
Speaker 1: didn't pull the trigger on that. How does Luton bounce
Speaker 1: back from a day like this, Well, let me start
Speaker 1: by saying, I appreciate his protecting the offensive line, but
Speaker 1: I thought that especially as the game went on again,
Speaker 1: I thought the tackle struggle at times, um, and I
Speaker 1: think he was the right tackle really struggle. It looked
Speaker 1: like for the TV. Well, I think both did it.
Speaker 1: I mean, Um, I don't think it was a great day. UM. Now,
Speaker 1: it didn't mean they were getting beat every play or
Speaker 1: anything like that. Um, But there was too much pressure.
Speaker 1: And I, I mean, I us have higher expectations of
Speaker 1: both Cam and Jawan, So I appreciate. But but you
Speaker 1: said that going in last week. Remember you said that
Speaker 1: those tackles had problems last week against Green Bay, And
Speaker 1: if they had problems against green Bay, they're gonna have
Speaker 1: problems this week as well. I was worried about it.
Speaker 1: I mean, those are two compass Russians they have there
Speaker 1: and and um. But with that said, it wasn't always
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. I think Luten missed some things.
Speaker 1: I think he missed some opportunities down the field, and
Speaker 1: he was widely inaccurate for the most part of the game.
Speaker 1: And he just ye give him credit. He wasn't like
Speaker 1: he was panicked. It wasn't like he was jumping in
Speaker 1: the pocket even when he the pocket was closing down
Speaker 1: and there was traffic and everything like that. But he
Speaker 1: just really inaccurate. Man, the ball was sailing on him
Speaker 1: two weeks in a row. I kind of blamed the
Speaker 1: wind last week when they played Green Bay, but there
Speaker 1: was no wind yesterday and the ball was all over
Speaker 1: the place. Yeah, I I thought just watching and I
Speaker 1: went back and rewatched it today on a regular TV
Speaker 1: and it just it was high way too many times.
Speaker 1: But like, okay, give me one Connolly in the middle
Speaker 1: of the field at a high ball. He should have
Speaker 1: pulled that one in. Um, did you a great remember?
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I mean in the hand the interception that
Speaker 1: he was that was tipped at the goal and it
Speaker 1: could have made it ten ten. I don't even know
Speaker 1: where you're throwing the ball. He was throwing it. It It
Speaker 1: looks like you're starting to effort and he was covered.
Speaker 1: He has nobody to go to there. It just it
Speaker 1: was not a good performance by Luton. But again, is
Speaker 1: it a performance. The numbers are far worse than the performance.
Speaker 1: Let's put it that way. Don't you think the tip
Speaker 1: of the lot of Primage the one he was so
Speaker 1: in He was so inaccurate. I mean even the start
Speaker 1: of the game, like some of the catches guys had
Speaker 1: to make were like acrobatic catches to go up high,
Speaker 1: and everything was sailing on him and everything's a fastball.
Speaker 1: There's no change of me. It's just like coming out
Speaker 1: of there, hun it's offline. And so yeah, no, I
Speaker 1: don't think I think I put it on him. I
Speaker 1: think it was on him. I don't think the numbers
Speaker 1: were good. I don't think the performance was good. And
Speaker 1: there was one that James Robinson had to catch on
Speaker 1: the far sideline out on the left. It was a
Speaker 1: great catch, but it wasn't close to anchorate. So what
Speaker 1: do you do? Oh gosh, I mean, I'll say this.
Speaker 1: Doug Maron today said that he needs to see Gardner.
Speaker 1: Minsh you throw a little bit, he said. The athletic
Speaker 1: training staff said he's a percent, but they need to
Speaker 1: see more throwing and see the coaching staff se him
Speaker 1: on the practice field to see how Gardner is and
Speaker 1: then get everybody you know before that, get everybody around
Speaker 1: today and figure out how Jake's doing above the shoulders,
Speaker 1: how Gardner's hand is doing, how Glennon is, and then
Speaker 1: make a decision after that. So he wasn't ready to
Speaker 1: make a move today, Yeah, I mean to play. You
Speaker 1: think he's going back to him? Yeah? I think I
Speaker 1: think so. I think so too. What would you do
Speaker 1: I go back? We'll probably go back there. Glennon is
Speaker 1: out of the equation for me. I'm not playing him. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not playing Glennon either. Quickly remember a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago, it's like, oh, Luton is gonna be the
Speaker 1: guy all year. He might struggle a little bit, but
Speaker 1: he's got a big arm, he can throw it down
Speaker 1: the field and all this. But defensive face yesterday, Yeah
Speaker 1: I know. And here's the thing. I go back and
Speaker 1: forth because Gardner probably gives you more because of his
Speaker 1: athletic ability, extending plays and doing different things. Limited with
Speaker 1: his arm um more accurate than uh way more much
Speaker 1: more accurate than Luten. But you're limited, I think, I
Speaker 1: mean at least like Luton's only he's a rookie. It's
Speaker 1: only three games, which aren't you like more interested to
Speaker 1: see what Luton can do. I probably would start looting again,
Speaker 1: but I think he's gonna go back to min Chick
Speaker 1: or you Fencho is healthy and you don't go to him.
Speaker 1: If you start looting in the ball, sailing all over
Speaker 1: the place in the quarter, then you go to Minshew
Speaker 1: that he's in the rest of the season. That's another possibility. Yeah,
Speaker 1: does it really matter? Almost It doesn't. This is where
Speaker 1: it matters. It doesn't matter to you, It doesn't the fans,
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure care at this point. It doesn't
Speaker 1: matter the guys on that team and Dug and so
Speaker 1: it Doug's responsibility. What he needs to do, honestly is
Speaker 1: in him and the staff. I have to make the decision.
Speaker 1: Whoever gives you the best chance to win. Well, what
Speaker 1: if that's Glennon, then you can go play Glennon? What
Speaker 1: because Here's here's the thing. What do they care about
Speaker 1: next year? They don't. So you're trying to win for
Speaker 1: your guys. You have right now, So go play Glennon.
Speaker 1: If he's the best. If you think Glennon gives you
Speaker 1: the best chance to win, and you're Doug Morone, you
Speaker 1: play him. I agree with you already. And if and
Speaker 1: if Mike Glennon's your best chance to win, God bless you.
Speaker 1: On that note, Let's take a time out to the
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Speaker 1: I mean NFL thrown in trial by fire it is
Speaker 1: and Ben Roethlisberger is a smart guy. He's gonna try
Speaker 1: to take advantage that US have really good skilled positions.
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Speaker 1: yesterday and the loss to the Steelers three the final
Speaker 1: Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour, j P. Shadrick, Tony Boselli,
Speaker 1: Pete Frisco, your social questions coming up in the second
Speaker 1: hour to day, I was flipping around to the defense here,
Speaker 1: and you know, they were in the first half of
Speaker 1: the game. I felt like they were hanging in there
Speaker 1: at least, you know, and then things kind of slipped
Speaker 1: away towards the back end of the football game yesterday.
Speaker 1: Considering everything that was going on going into the game,
Speaker 1: they didn't have the starting outside corners, and Henderson's of
Speaker 1: course on injury reserve, and then Sydney Jones has an
Speaker 1: achilles issue now, so he was inactive for the game.
Speaker 1: He was questionable on Friday going in he did not play.
Speaker 1: He had a bunch of new faces out there on
Speaker 1: the outside and in the secondary. And then during the
Speaker 1: game a bunch of guys went down with injury. Daniel
Speaker 1: Thomas banged up an army issue, Josh Allen obviously with
Speaker 1: a new issue, and d J. Hayden grabbed the back
Speaker 1: of his handy again. So Doug Barone today said those
Speaker 1: three guys will be out for quote, quite a bit
Speaker 1: of time. He didn't give a specific time period for
Speaker 1: those guys. Andrew norm Thomas was an arm wasn't it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was an arm did break it? I haven't heard officially,
Speaker 1: and Doug didn't say maybe I saw that on Twitter.
Speaker 1: So it was an armed issue. He's gonna be out
Speaker 1: for a while, is what he said. And then for
Speaker 1: Alan there's no ligament damage, so that's the good news.
Speaker 1: But it sounds like he'll be out for a while
Speaker 1: as well. So they were banged up going in there.
Speaker 1: Even more bang up now, Pete, Yeah, and to the court. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: Sydney Jones play next week. I mean, look at the
Speaker 1: group of guys that are on the field. It's incredible.
Speaker 1: Claybrooks had a rough over yesterday. I mean he had
Speaker 1: He looked like a guy who was a rookie who
Speaker 1: shouldn't be starting, and he was thrust into the starting lineup.
Speaker 1: And those are those guys are gonna have those kind
Speaker 1: of games. It's hard to find guys who had really
Speaker 1: good games. Are good games on defense, and which is
Speaker 1: interesting because they really didn't give up a ton of points.
Speaker 1: I mean, Hamilton's flashed at times. Again, I thought, and you, Tony,
Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't great, but it was. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean I give I give the defense credit. I mean
Speaker 1: they hung in there. I mean they only they gave
Speaker 1: up twenty seven points, so it can't be that good.
Speaker 1: But the offense had four turnovers. That's four extra possessions
Speaker 1: at the Steelers got um and if you look at it,
Speaker 1: I thought that, you know, outside of three runs at
Speaker 1: Connor kind of broke, they did a good job against
Speaker 1: the run game that the Steelers issues. I don't think
Speaker 1: that offensive line is very good at run blocking at all,
Speaker 1: and that that's I think that's gonna come bite them
Speaker 1: at some point. Um. And I give Todd Washington of credit.
Speaker 1: I thought he was really creative with the blitz is
Speaker 1: and he was. That was his most creative game, I thought.
Speaker 1: I thought he thought he did a really good job
Speaker 1: and he competed and can confused Ben a couple of times.
Speaker 1: You should have to pick six with Jared Wilson broke
Speaker 1: on that ball and just couldn't hold onto it. So
Speaker 1: you know, the defense played fine. I mean, I mean
Speaker 1: that's a that's a good offense. It's an offense. It's
Speaker 1: and scots and points. I got weapons, and I thought
Speaker 1: they hung in there. If you think about it, there
Speaker 1: without their two starting corn is, then they're starting. Nickel
Speaker 1: went down and then their backup corner went down. I
Speaker 1: mean pretty soon you're the corners across the board were
Speaker 1: Luke Barko undrafted free agent but not rookie for agent,
Speaker 1: haven't played it all this year. Josiah Scott at nicol
Speaker 1: drafted had not played played four snaps. I think he
Speaker 1: played four snaps, that's correct. And then and then Trey
Speaker 1: Herndon that was your that was your starting and then
Speaker 1: by the way, you're you're on your third safety with
Speaker 1: Andrew Winger got out there, who got beat for the touchdown. So,
Speaker 1: I mean it's tough, and then you and then you
Speaker 1: don't have any real pass rush in front of him.
Speaker 1: That's that's I give him credit for what they hung
Speaker 1: in there and did. Okay, of the guys who started
Speaker 1: on Sunday, how many will be starting in the same
Speaker 1: spot in two thousand and one? Well, Josh Allen two? Four? Look,
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Maybe Hamilton's, Hamilton's, Hamilton's that's two Showbert, Miles
Speaker 1: Jack will start and Daniel Thomas and that's six maybe maybe,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe how many definite Josh Allen three, Hamilton's and
Speaker 1: Miles Jack and Miles Jack. They're they're Hamilton's and Allen
Speaker 1: and Miles Jack going down. That's it. That's the only definite.
Speaker 1: But they're paying showbird. Sometimes you gotta admit your mistake.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go down. I wouldn't go down for you yet. Okay,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna wait to have the season to
Speaker 1: do it? I'm not awful, He's not awful good, but
Speaker 1: he ain't worth that money that much as a given
Speaker 1: positive conversation. Tony has had enough of this conversation. I think, Pete, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, what what do you always say? I I
Speaker 1: mean this question better and I told you what. I
Speaker 1: think he's better. You're better with him at starting at Mike?
Speaker 1: Is it moves Miles jack Um? Well, are you telling me?
Speaker 1: Is he an All Pro? Is he a Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: level mic linebacker? No? Pro Bowl? Say it again, Pete,
Speaker 1: he's been to the Pro Bowl. I'm you're asking me
Speaker 1: if he's playing at that level. I don't think he is.
Speaker 1: How about alright, so three guys are definite from the
Speaker 1: guys who started on Sundays, there's only three definites going in.
Speaker 1: I think that's right. I mean, yeah, definite. I mean
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna end up being five or six,
Speaker 1: but definite, like start like you like, these guys are
Speaker 1: starting caliber player. Okay, will Chase On be a starter?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Well that's a miss. Then if
Speaker 1: he's not starting, a miss because I I don't think
Speaker 1: you can start him and Josh Allen, I think you
Speaker 1: need a bigger defensive end. I was gonna say, what
Speaker 1: kind of scheme are they running? Is it gonna be
Speaker 1: a totally different What if they come in? What if
Speaker 1: the guy who comes in and puts three guys down
Speaker 1: and two guys on the edge standing up, then you
Speaker 1: can start both of them. Did anybody start Yeah? Right,
Speaker 1: I'm saying I'm just thinking the current four three scheme. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and which almost goes back to the pick of them.
Speaker 1: If you picked him thinking you're going to fit him
Speaker 1: into this defense, it was almost like why, I mean,
Speaker 1: unless you felt like he was an elite he had
Speaker 1: a chance to be an elite pass rusher, and then
Speaker 1: you have two pass rushers you're nickel on you know,
Speaker 1: six percent at the time, then it's worthwhile. I don't
Speaker 1: see anything. I'm not saying he can't be. I haven't
Speaker 1: seen anything that tells me an elite pass pressure. He
Speaker 1: made a made a tackle yesterday though, that was yeah,
Speaker 1: I hope so you played defense, you're supposed to make tackles. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he made it that and I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not to get credit with two tackle Did he
Speaker 1: get credit for two pressures too? One he had a
Speaker 1: loop in on the interior where he almost hit Roethlisberger
Speaker 1: in the middle mid section, Remember that one he came
Speaker 1: around and looped inside. He made two official tackles, had
Speaker 1: one tackle for loss, did not get any credit for
Speaker 1: quarterback hits. I'll say that, I don't know about it was.
Speaker 1: It was. He was right there at the when we
Speaker 1: released it. So it was. But again, he's not lining
Speaker 1: up a winning against anybody. Got a stun him inside.
Speaker 1: You know used to do that really well, Vic Beasley,
Speaker 1: I mean what happened to m I'm just not I'm
Speaker 1: not ready to kill him. You, I'm not ready to
Speaker 1: bury him and saying he's not ready to bury him either,
Speaker 1: I'm just asking you, do you think he's gonna be
Speaker 1: a starter next year in the current system? No, I
Speaker 1: don't o good now, Rembre in the second go ahead,
Speaker 1: Tony my bed because in a four three I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna start him and Josh Allen. I need a bigger
Speaker 1: end line up on the tightendside we can hold the point.
Speaker 1: I don't think he can hold the point. M fair enough,
Speaker 1: Caleb and Chason out of LSU overall pick couple of
Speaker 1: tackles yesterday eleven for the season. Has a sacked this year,
Speaker 1: but that just hasn't been on the field a lot,
Speaker 1: uh this year. Let's see yesterday. What were his numbers? Yesterday?
Speaker 1: Chason had forty six snaps yesterday. Remember Josh, he old
Speaker 1: Josh Allen got hurt in the second quarter, that's why.
Speaker 1: But he played a lot yesterday though, and and the
Speaker 1: production wasn't there. Hey, look, if there's no other way
Speaker 1: to sum it up other than the fact that he's
Speaker 1: been a disappointment so far this year, well, I mean,
Speaker 1: let me look at it, right, I mean, you look
Speaker 1: at it right now. You're not getting a ton of
Speaker 1: production out of it. Your top your three, your first
Speaker 1: three DERAFT picks, Anderson, Chason and do my Yeah, two
Speaker 1: of them are Yeah, that's right. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: injuries happened, so I'm not I mean that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: they can't they're not good players, we can't play it.
Speaker 1: Just as you sit here today, you're not getting production
Speaker 1: out So you're the best production out of the rookie
Speaker 1: is clearly the undrafted running back, and then after that
Speaker 1: it's got to be who Yeah, and then the one
Speaker 1: after that would have been, um, probably Claybrooks or Thomas Thomas. Yeah. Now,
Speaker 1: Thomas Isabks has been really good on special teams, right,
Speaker 1: but remember that's what he was drafted for. He was
Speaker 1: going to be a return specialist, right. He wasn't supposed
Speaker 1: to be on the field on defense. Yeah, he's done
Speaker 1: a good job too. He's a good gunner. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a good football player. I mean I think he
Speaker 1: has a future in the league as a special teams
Speaker 1: guy in you know, a backup corner for sure. Right,
Speaker 1: I think we've lost Pete. He's frozen on our screen,
Speaker 1: which is the best face he's had all day, Tony.
Speaker 1: So let's take a time. It's it's not a very
Speaker 1: it's not a very becoming picture that he's frozen. He
Speaker 1: has like like turkey gaggle of the neck kind of
Speaker 1: hanging down there, a little b bad angle. You gotta
Speaker 1: be careful if it's gonna freeze, you gotta freeze like
Speaker 1: a good long neck, you know, sit up straight kind
Speaker 1: I mean glass houses and all. How many good angles
Speaker 1: are there? Not a lot, There aren't many. Let's come
Speaker 1: back any more happens? Oh that we're back in a moment, Pete,
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Speaker 1: James consistent, I think we got beat a couple of
Speaker 1: times up front, you know what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 1: in some of those runs that you know, but he
Speaker 1: gets the most out of everything. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: there's not not much more we can ask from him.
Speaker 1: You know, he's a bright spot obviously. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: it does well. I just I just feel bad that
Speaker 1: we can't, you know, get a lead and get him
Speaker 1: more carries, and you know, I think it's a production
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Speaker 1: you said, we just gotta keep it, you know, keep
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Speaker 1: you know, continue a good job and do a good
Speaker 1: job on him. I mean, he's a he's obviously a
Speaker 1: good football player for US. Head coach Doug Moron after
Speaker 1: the game yesterday discussing James Robinson, Jaguars running back, Welcome Back,
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Speaker 1: So Pete, it's you and I. It's gonna be the
Speaker 1: best segment of the show. Of course, every time he leaves,
Speaker 1: it's always the best segment of the show. Come on,
Speaker 1: how many shows have we done without him? When he's
Speaker 1: been in Europe, they went, the ratings went through the roof.
Speaker 1: I mean they are to this day, there's not a
Speaker 1: higher rating than those shows. I mean, those are ones
Speaker 1: they put in the Hall of fame. They really are. Um,
Speaker 1: so James Robinson, this guy continues, Yeah, it's you know what, Jp,
Speaker 1: it's amazing that he's, like Doug said, you're not capable
Speaker 1: of seeing him play with the lead because he's been phenomenal.
Speaker 1: I mean I always say it. He doesn't let anybody
Speaker 1: get square contact on him. He's always cutting and bobbing
Speaker 1: and weaving and and it's hard to get square hits
Speaker 1: on him. Fits through tight little holes and pops out.
Speaker 1: He's what a running back should be. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe he lacks the top end speed, which is okay,
Speaker 1: you don't have the explosive runs from a guy like him,
Speaker 1: but he is a tough guy, grinder and again Emmitt
Speaker 1: Smith style runner. You know where Emmitt Smith never let
Speaker 1: people get good shots on him, and yet he's still
Speaker 1: put up a bunch of numbers. He's an oppressive kid.
Speaker 1: He's been their best offensive player. I don't think there's
Speaker 1: any question about that. Uh. And he is a building
Speaker 1: block and a foundation for this team. I'd have to
Speaker 1: go dig a little bit, obviously, but I'm curious how
Speaker 1: many rushing attempts are for losses or no gain for
Speaker 1: him this year. I bet the vast majority are for
Speaker 1: positive yardage. Yeah. He and even at times when there's penetration,
Speaker 1: he has a way of finding himself to a lot
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and and that's a sign of a good
Speaker 1: running back. Um. He is everything that Leonar four Net wasn't.
Speaker 1: Leonar fourn Nett had the straight line speed when he
Speaker 1: got through the whole, but he didn't make anybody mess
Speaker 1: if there was penetration in the back, but he was
Speaker 1: going down. If there was a guy in front of him,
Speaker 1: he's gonna try and run him over. He wasn't making
Speaker 1: anybody miss. This kid makes people miss. He just doesn't
Speaker 1: have the top end speed. But he's a good back
Speaker 1: and he's a good football player. To your point of
Speaker 1: he's not a game breaker. He's not gonna break that
Speaker 1: forty sixty yard touchdown run um. Talking to Terry Robiscue
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, the running backs coach has been
Speaker 1: in the league for forever and and used that used
Speaker 1: that bow Jackson and Marcus Allen in his backfield as
Speaker 1: an assistant back in the old days. He said to
Speaker 1: James earlier this year, you know, get us what we
Speaker 1: need as a team, and that's four yards and then
Speaker 1: you can get what you want after that. So I
Speaker 1: think early in the season he might have been worried
Speaker 1: about breaking out and getting an extra ten yards something
Speaker 1: like that. But as the season has gone on, you
Speaker 1: see him focusing on what the blocking is following the
Speaker 1: play and that helps the offensive line out as well
Speaker 1: when you follow what is what is drawn up for
Speaker 1: you Andy, And he's a pretty good receiver too. Out
Speaker 1: of the background. He can catch the ball. He saw
Speaker 1: that yesterday, had a good catch. I think eventually they'll
Speaker 1: use the more in the screen game as they get
Speaker 1: better at that kind of thing. But right now, he's
Speaker 1: a good running back. Now he's not Fred Taylor, Maurice Jones,
Speaker 1: Drew we can that role right now. But he's a
Speaker 1: good back. And if you asked me if I could
Speaker 1: have him or Leonard for Nett right now to run
Speaker 1: behind my offensive line, I'm taking Robinson right I mean,
Speaker 1: we'll see Leonard tonight money football. But um, you don't
Speaker 1: do anything. Don't do anything. He doesn't do anything down there, No,
Speaker 1: don't do anything. I mean, he did some things in Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: but a lot of that was out of necessity because
Speaker 1: he got the ball and they were behind, you know,
Speaker 1: the passing yard and he got last year Catches was behind.
Speaker 1: But no, look, they took they took a lot of
Speaker 1: heat for that decision right when it happened, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's one JP. That's one decision that they deserve to
Speaker 1: get credit for because you know, when they sat for
Speaker 1: net packing, they knew they had Robinson and you know,
Speaker 1: you started hearing good things about him, and we talked
Speaker 1: about it on the show and people when I told people,
Speaker 1: like on the air in my place and I said
Speaker 1: it in the office, they said who, But I said,
Speaker 1: you watch, I've heard nothing but good things about this.
Speaker 1: So they made the right decision. And he's a good kid.
Speaker 1: He's a he's a great character kid. From everything I
Speaker 1: hear a little quiet um, you know that, which you
Speaker 1: know guys are when they're young and they're in rookies.
Speaker 1: But he's a good back and they have that's a
Speaker 1: building block. There's one. I think DJ sharks too. You know,
Speaker 1: I think, you know, offensive line wise, you'd like to
Speaker 1: think John Taylor is, but I don't think he's played
Speaker 1: that well this year. But he should be, uh you know,
Speaker 1: should not will be. I think maybe if he stays healthy. Right,
Speaker 1: that's a guy like that, right and so, and I
Speaker 1: think he bring Keelan coleback as the third receiver. But
Speaker 1: that group is coming back now. How they play out
Speaker 1: the offensive line is to be determined. Well, Cann'll be
Speaker 1: back because Cand's contract and kid's actually play A J
Speaker 1: can give him credit. He's played pretty well this year.
Speaker 1: The rest of those guys, I think it's up in
Speaker 1: the air. Linder, Norwell, damn Robinson, and Robinson hasn't played
Speaker 1: himself into a big time contract. I don't think Tony
Speaker 1: might disagree with me, but I'd be careful with that one, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you there's a better option out there too,
Speaker 1: maybe you go get the better option. Well, can you
Speaker 1: can you? I still don't think you're gonna be able
Speaker 1: to pay Lender and Robinson, so one of them had
Speaker 1: one of them has to go, all right, So are
Speaker 1: you more comfortable paying Lender paying Robinson for me? I
Speaker 1: think I'm uncomfortable paying Lender. I'm more comfortable paying neither
Speaker 1: of them, to be honest with none of them start over. No,
Speaker 1: I would Well, I mean, you drafted Bart do you
Speaker 1: think he's going to be a player, So he could
Speaker 1: be in one of the guards and you might send
Speaker 1: Norwell packing, make him me the left guard. Uh, and
Speaker 1: then you know you can find some guys that are
Speaker 1: they have money to spend. Let's not forget about that.
Speaker 1: There's guys you can find on the on the street.
Speaker 1: Let's just say in the draft they had We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk draft later, but fields and the offensive lineman down there.
Speaker 1: That when they picked the Ramspeck left tackle, and and
Speaker 1: they sign a tight end and free agency, is that
Speaker 1: a good offense? Well, it depends on what kind of
Speaker 1: tight end you're getting, right. I mean, if you're gonna
Speaker 1: get a free agency tight end, you think he's gonna
Speaker 1: go down catches starting left tackle at twenty two or
Speaker 1: whatever it is now, right, which would be a rookie tackle.
Speaker 1: But you know we've seen those guys step in and play.
Speaker 1: Beckton's played really well. He was a high pick though, Um,
Speaker 1: I think you'd have confidence at that point, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: new guy your comfortable with left tackle, your offensive line,
Speaker 1: and new guy you pick in the first round at
Speaker 1: left tackle, um BArch at left guard. It's a young
Speaker 1: left side though. How you bring Linda back at center
Speaker 1: to keep the group together, can and Taylor. Then you
Speaker 1: have fields, you drafted, you signed Hunter, Henry, you draft,
Speaker 1: and then you have the three healthy receivers together with Robinson.
Speaker 1: Is that is that a good? That's it's better than
Speaker 1: what's going on right now. I'll say that what has
Speaker 1: really it has the potential to be, has the potential.
Speaker 1: I don't think opening day you can say, hey, we're good,
Speaker 1: it's built. You can't do that. They gotta go play
Speaker 1: and get better together, you know, so I mean that,
Speaker 1: And and there are options in free agency as well
Speaker 1: to spend money on. So there. Look, it's moving. You
Speaker 1: have the money, you have the draft picks, you have
Speaker 1: some building block. It's just this year. If you're a fan,
Speaker 1: I know you hate when I say this. You just
Speaker 1: gotta hope the Jets win one. And well, I mean
Speaker 1: that's the reality. Rather have Trevor Lawrence and Justin Field.
Speaker 1: And that's not anything against Justin Field, because I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a really good player too. This might
Speaker 1: be Burrow and Herbert. You'd be okay with either one
Speaker 1: of them. Right, One more quick thing here before we
Speaker 1: go away. Are you more comfortable paying a tight end
Speaker 1: in free agency or drafting a rookie tight end to
Speaker 1: be the start or does it matter. I mean, I
Speaker 1: might be more comfortable paying a left tackle if I
Speaker 1: got one, and and then drafting the rookie tight end. Yea.
Speaker 1: The problem with the tight ends nowadays, they're one dimensional
Speaker 1: in a lot of cases. I mean, like, Okay, the
Speaker 1: kid at Penn State was going to be a first
Speaker 1: round pick, Briar muth I think that's his name. He's
Speaker 1: hurt now, and so how do you evaluate him? And
Speaker 1: he's a complete tight end. You have the Florida kid.
Speaker 1: He we know what he is. He's a pass cat.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a that's a Darren Waller. That's who
Speaker 1: he is. When you say that's what he's gonna be
Speaker 1: like Darren Waller, and that's Do you see what Darren
Speaker 1: Waller does? He creates mismatch problems for a defense. So
Speaker 1: that's another thing to keep an eye on. Got plenty
Speaker 1: of time to discuss that ahead, but it's an interesting thought.
Speaker 1: Let's move in to the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour.
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Speaker 1: I kind of went back and forth for a little bit.
Speaker 1: Me truthfully, I was just thinking to myself, Hey, listen
Speaker 1: to we keep them in there, and you know, you
Speaker 1: talk about getting experience. You know, is that gonna get experience?
Speaker 1: And then is it good enough? Or you know where
Speaker 1: we are? But I think, you know, during a week
Speaker 1: will evaluate it. I don't think I'll have an answer
Speaker 1: on Monday, you know when I get asked a question.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think, as um, you know, the
Speaker 1: week gold we'll take a look and see what we
Speaker 1: can do. What's the best thing for our team? That
Speaker 1: coach Doug Marone after the game yesterday discussing the quarterback situation.
Speaker 1: Welcome into the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour. The
Speaker 1: day after a Jaguars law to the Pittsburgh Steelers in
Speaker 1: Week eleven three. The final score j P Shadrick, Pete Prisco,
Speaker 1: Tony Vaselli. Glad you're along with us today, as the
Speaker 1: Jags have extended their losing skid to nine straight games.
Speaker 1: The offense struggled Jake Luton through four interceptions and That
Speaker 1: answer from Doug Moron was to a question about whether
Speaker 1: he thought about putting Mike Lennan into the game. He
Speaker 1: said he thought about it, but decided to stick with
Speaker 1: Luton in the game. Moving forward, still no decision as
Speaker 1: of today when Doug Moron spoke at the quarterback spot.
Speaker 1: Moving ahead, they'll see how Garden Mintshew progresses in practice
Speaker 1: this week. The coaching staff wants to see him throw
Speaker 1: a little bit more and then they'll figure things out.
Speaker 1: Possibly on Wednesday. The defense held their own for a bit.
Speaker 1: The Steelers though, just to have all those weapons everywhere
Speaker 1: on The Jaguars are walking wounded and in some cases
Speaker 1: not walking. Unfortunately. It is a the tough sled yesterday
Speaker 1: in the athletic training department in the Manta the staff
Speaker 1: as well. A lot going on in the game. A
Speaker 1: lot of guys left the game to not come back,
Speaker 1: and some major players could be out for a little while,
Speaker 1: including Josh Allen on the defensive line on deck. It
Speaker 1: doesn't get easier. The seven and three Cleveland Browns come
Speaker 1: to town this week in week number twelve, and they're
Speaker 1: fighting for a playoff spot. You know they'll be locked
Speaker 1: and loaded. Hey, Tony's back with us that you missed
Speaker 1: minutes was the best radio we've had in a long
Speaker 1: The ratings just went right through the roof when you left.
Speaker 1: I heard it as I was on the phone taking
Speaker 1: care of something. I heard bab babbling or along. No,
Speaker 1: I got you know how they nowadays you can get
Speaker 1: ratings metered like by fifteen minutes segments. That was their
Speaker 1: highest rated fifteen minutes of the year so far. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I heard your I heard your hunter, Henry take not
Speaker 1: just town Henry, just whatever. They need help. And you
Speaker 1: wouldn't pay either Linda or you cut you you you
Speaker 1: move on from under? And Cam? I might he start over,
Speaker 1: is what he said. Yep, Tony, I might play. I
Speaker 1: play Shatley at center if I had to, and I
Speaker 1: get a left pack or a draft one play Bart
Speaker 1: and left. I mean yes, I would probably. To be
Speaker 1: honest with you, I think they're both too expensive. They'd
Speaker 1: be both too expensive for what they are. What what
Speaker 1: would make what number would make Cam too expensive? Well?
Speaker 1: What do you think he's gonna ask for? I mean
Speaker 1: an unrestricted free agent left tackle? After seeing what these
Speaker 1: guys have been getting, what bout ther get? And he
Speaker 1: hasn't Bogard, But what do you get? Or twenty three? Here?
Speaker 1: Just drop him down a little bit. What do you
Speaker 1: think he's gonna ask for? I didn't say what he's
Speaker 1: gonna ask for? What would you want? What I pay him? Yeah? Twelve?
Speaker 1: I was gonna say fourteen. No, but you're paying for
Speaker 1: What are you paying for, Tony? What? What do you
Speaker 1: getting for fourteen million dollars a year? I mean, I
Speaker 1: think you're getting a solid starters, So you're overbey for
Speaker 1: a vilid starter. No, I mean, but I mean left
Speaker 1: tackles start left tackles a league, get intended fourteen? All right,
Speaker 1: unless unless, unless you unless you go get him, you know,
Speaker 1: draft him. Do you think he's better than Villineueva? Yes,
Speaker 1: you do? Yeah, I do. I don't know about that.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, people watch the tape. He's a thousand times
Speaker 1: better run blocker than he's a better Villa, can't bend
Speaker 1: his knees, and he's a better pass walker, Ben says Villaneuva.
Speaker 1: Ben gets rid of it faster than any quarterback in
Speaker 1: the league, and he moves in the pocket as well
Speaker 1: as anybody. Yes, he's better than villain Aueva. It's not okay,
Speaker 1: but he's not Okay, then we can go around the
Speaker 1: league and find left tackles. He's not better that what
Speaker 1: are they paying Villinueva. I'm gonna look, okay, is he's
Speaker 1: not better than Eric Fisher and he's not good? Do
Speaker 1: you agree with that? He's a better run blocker eric Fisher?
Speaker 1: But he's he's not as um I mean I think
Speaker 1: he's he's on Eric Fisher's calib I mean they're like,
Speaker 1: you're right, they probably neither one of them are that good? Okay,
Speaker 1: you know what building a wave it gets per year?
Speaker 1: He gotta he makes six million dollars a year and
Speaker 1: he's an unrestricted free agent after the season. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's not that much. Would you pay billing a wave
Speaker 1: of six million? And game Momas in four d? Come on?
Speaker 1: Don't yeah, I mean, Pete, here's the other thing you
Speaker 1: can't do any now. Build a wave is older. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's much older. Here's you can't do. You just can't
Speaker 1: keep on getting rid of guys. You have to build somewhere.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's I'll give you a perfect a million,
Speaker 1: a million. We know what? Okay? What is no? No,
Speaker 1: you're missing my point. This is exactly whoever the gym
Speaker 1: needs to be thinking. What's Eric Fisher getting paid from
Speaker 1: Pick though? Too, I don't care it's a second contract.
Speaker 1: What is he getting paid? I'll tell you right now.
Speaker 1: We'll see if you're over a little to it. He's
Speaker 1: getting twelve a year. Okay. So I said twelve, I said, Tony,
Speaker 1: what every every player in the league on them? You
Speaker 1: know you said ten? First of all? I swelled and
Speaker 1: I said twelve. You said fourteen. Tony said fourteen. I
Speaker 1: said twelve. No, I did not say fourteen fourteen. I
Speaker 1: said twelve to fourteen. I gave you a range. I
Speaker 1: said twelve. We can pull the tape up at Jenny game,
Speaker 1: okay if whatever. By the way, that deal was signed
Speaker 1: two or three years ago. I think he's an equal
Speaker 1: quest like and everyone killed the Chiefs when they signed
Speaker 1: him and paid him that much money to or three
Speaker 1: years ago. Here's the reality is, unless you have someone
Speaker 1: better to replace him with, you just keep on going
Speaker 1: backwards and spinning and you go nowhere. So okay, so
Speaker 1: you can't pay would you agree that you're probably not
Speaker 1: gonna pay keep lender and pay Camp. I don't think
Speaker 1: you can pay lender Norwell and Camp. Okay, well, let's
Speaker 1: think doorble out of the equation because the ideal situation
Speaker 1: barches right in to play left card, you play left card.
Speaker 1: True right, you drafted him, you think you can play,
Speaker 1: you put him a left card. I haven't. I mean,
Speaker 1: I haven't what I saw in the two games. I'm
Speaker 1: not doing that. But it's a whole year of everything. Great,
Speaker 1: am I gonna bet everything going into the uh go
Speaker 1: into the season with what I've seen so far. Now
Speaker 1: I haven't seen practice. I haven't seen what this guy
Speaker 1: doesn't Camp. I mean, we weren't therapy. It's hard, but
Speaker 1: that's an ideal scenario. Okay, but okay, but you pay
Speaker 1: everybody and bring it me. I did not say to
Speaker 1: pay everybody. You're not, so what would you do? What
Speaker 1: would I do? Um one? I I My biggest concern,
Speaker 1: Pete is if I'm gonna go draft a young quarterback,
Speaker 1: I want to protect him. And even if for I mean,
Speaker 1: you got to protect him. I get that, But you
Speaker 1: are you? Is this line good enough to protect? I
Speaker 1: mean that's a fair that. That's the other side, is it?
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you get? Are you getting what
Speaker 1: you're paying for that's a fair. That's a fair. Okay,
Speaker 1: So let's let's just say you can't. There's no way
Speaker 1: you can pay. You can't pay you can and nor
Speaker 1: would you. Why would you? I agree? So one of
Speaker 1: them or two of them have to go. You're probably right.
Speaker 1: So then which one do you pick? You picked the
Speaker 1: young guy and let the two old guys go. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've always maybe overvalued Cam because I think he really
Speaker 1: has ability and talent and everything else, but the consistency
Speaker 1: is just not there. And if you look at it,
Speaker 1: you know his rookie year was his rookie year up
Speaker 1: and down, but that's a rookie Um. He came back
Speaker 1: before he got hurt. He was not playing good, did
Speaker 1: not have a good camp, good three season or good start.
Speaker 1: Gets hurt Um early and then really last year never
Speaker 1: looked good at all last year as well. Now came
Speaker 1: back this year in a contract year, in great shape
Speaker 1: and like ready to go. Started well. Um has had
Speaker 1: the last couple has been tough weeks, but for the
Speaker 1: most part has played well this year until the last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Um. But when you worry about with
Speaker 1: the guy like that Pete, didn't you do it because
Speaker 1: it was his contract year. And if this is a
Speaker 1: contract year and this is the best you're gonna get,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? If if he went into
Speaker 1: the year as a contract year, got in great shape,
Speaker 1: was ready to go, I'm gonna go show people I'm
Speaker 1: worth all this money, and this is the best you're
Speaker 1: gonna get. That's concerning. Yeah, well, I mean what does
Speaker 1: he get paid? And he's an unrestricted free agent, that's
Speaker 1: a good question. I mean, is he gonna get He
Speaker 1: probably get. He's not coming close to that box the
Speaker 1: r mundy. No, no, no, no, he's not that So
Speaker 1: so what's he get? I say, gets twelve? I bet
Speaker 1: you gets more than that market peak. Look around the NFL.
Speaker 1: Look at the offensive linemen. I know they're bad. There's
Speaker 1: some bad lineman in this league. I mean, okay, is
Speaker 1: he better than Donovan Smith in Pampa? Probably? I don't
Speaker 1: think so. No, Or it's close, it's closed though, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: the Rams started, Rams started Whitworth. Whitworth. Wentworth is not
Speaker 1: his athletic. He's just a crafty dude. He's like not
Speaker 1: Wentworth better. He is better. Yeah, he's hurt now, but
Speaker 1: he's better. But there are he's not better. There's certain
Speaker 1: there's a lot of veteran starting now that aren't gonna
Speaker 1: be around either, so maybe there will be a market
Speaker 1: work like Jason Peters. Um, I mean he's he was
Speaker 1: terrible yesterday. Yeah, he's struggling and his body's breaking down.
Speaker 1: He was a great player down. Um, But you have
Speaker 1: big to your point, and this is where you like,
Speaker 1: you have big decisions. I'm not paying him like a
Speaker 1: franchise left tackle because I haven't seen that this year.
Speaker 1: But I don't think putting Let's call it between ten
Speaker 1: and fifteen million. Just make that the range in your
Speaker 1: left tackle right could you know above average plays out
Speaker 1: of the realm with it? Where the cap and how
Speaker 1: guys are getting paid right now? Okay, so twelve million
Speaker 1: is fair. I don't think he takes it nole thin.
Speaker 1: He goes. He goes to agency to see if you
Speaker 1: get more. Here's another question, speaking of free agency. Are
Speaker 1: you sure you can attract the free agent you want
Speaker 1: at that position on the right money. You'll try. You
Speaker 1: can get him anywhere. Here's the thing, You're not gonna
Speaker 1: go fund. There's no there's no franchise left tackles coming up.
Speaker 1: In free agency. Come on, guys, well no, but but
Speaker 1: you got a draft one then okay, but then Pete,
Speaker 1: you also need to tie You also want to tight end.
Speaker 1: You also need a pass rusher. You also need uh
Speaker 1: she's probably a safety you also need. You know, but
Speaker 1: aren't you compounding your problems by over paying a guy
Speaker 1: just to fill the spot. I'm not saying over pay him.
Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. I'm not saying I wouldn't
Speaker 1: pay him sixteen seventeen eighteen, nowhere close to twenty million
Speaker 1: dollars a year. I wouldn't do it because I haven't
Speaker 1: seen that. Now, maybe in the last six games a year,
Speaker 1: he's just dominant and things look better, and possibly I'd
Speaker 1: still be worried because it's a one year sample size
Speaker 1: of this will be his best year's contract here. We've
Speaker 1: seen that story in the league before of how that works. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I think you've got to be concerned a
Speaker 1: little bit about him playing his best football this year
Speaker 1: and this is this is it, this is what you
Speaker 1: get and so but at the same time, I understand,
Speaker 1: I gotta someone has to play left tackle somebody, right,
Speaker 1: And you just saying, go draft a guy. Okay, I
Speaker 1: gotta draft a lot of guys, Tonny. I understand that.
Speaker 1: But you're also saying, let's just play on with him,
Speaker 1: just because I'm not saying that. I'm just smart when
Speaker 1: you're when you're building a team before you just start
Speaker 1: cutting guys because you're not happy and it's always they stink.
Speaker 1: You better have someone to replace him with because you
Speaker 1: have to line up with eleven guys on each side
Speaker 1: of the ball. Okay, I'll give you. I'll give you
Speaker 1: a guy that's gonna be a free agent and he's
Speaker 1: played really well as already Stunt before this year, Garrett
Speaker 1: Bold year. Okay, but he's still but he's still light
Speaker 1: in the rear end and gets pushed. I'm not playing.
Speaker 1: But if you put those two side by side, I
Speaker 1: bet your bowls gets more money, camp more physical. That's
Speaker 1: just that there aren't any guys on the market. You
Speaker 1: can't that's my point. I mean, then you're betting on
Speaker 1: the draft. Well, if that's the case, he's going to
Speaker 1: go in and say, you know what, I'm going to
Speaker 1: go test the market and see what I'm gonna get.
Speaker 1: And that I mean, but then you have to use
Speaker 1: your transition tagon. What is the A's probably what they
Speaker 1: that's probably what they will do, transition tagon. If you're
Speaker 1: losing me, get a draft pick, right, that's probably what
Speaker 1: they'll do. I mean, that's what I would do. Well,
Speaker 1: I just said, now you're copying me, that's what I said.
Speaker 1: I But but again, what's what's the top what's the
Speaker 1: top what's the top ten number for? Because it isn't
Speaker 1: transition tech the average in the top ten? Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: so what do you think that's the highest? What's what's
Speaker 1: the tent? The higher, that's for sure, I'll find in
Speaker 1: a second. But you know, if you add one in
Speaker 1: the draft and he stepped in and play right away,
Speaker 1: and the answer to that quite If you're at them
Speaker 1: in the first round, you can, okay, but Pete, if
Speaker 1: you the Rams are pretty good and so they're gonna
Speaker 1: be picking. Let's say between twenty two and right, you're
Speaker 1: not finding a guy that you're comfortable with. You're not
Speaker 1: finding back then, No, not finding Have you watched the
Speaker 1: Browns on tape yet this year? Yeah? What do you
Speaker 1: think it will? Think he's a good player, you would
Speaker 1: take that and put him in left? Would you take
Speaker 1: Wills over Robinson. I've only watched like one or two games.
Speaker 1: I haven't watched that. Let's be unfair. But like I'll
Speaker 1: tell you, I like the kid of Tampa, the right
Speaker 1: tackle they got. He's good. He's really good. The kid,
Speaker 1: the kid and the Giants is struggling, but he'll be Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's playing better the last couple. But these are all
Speaker 1: guys taken in the top half of the draft. They're
Speaker 1: not there. Well, the Vikings picked the tackle later in
Speaker 1: the first round. He's now starting at right guard. Okay,
Speaker 1: that doesn't That doesn't solve your left tackle. So basically,
Speaker 1: so what does solve your left tackle? The pay and
Speaker 1: paid m Robinson million dollars a year doesn't solve your
Speaker 1: left backing spot either. I'm sorry. It doesn't. Just builds it.
Speaker 1: We got a time Well, we gotta take a time out.
Speaker 1: We'll come back. We'll finish this conversation because this could
Speaker 1: go on for a while. We'll get to your social
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Speaker 1: a loss to the Steelers. J P, Shadrick, Pete Prisco,
Speaker 1: Tony Vaselli. It's time now for our favorite segment each week,
Speaker 1: Social Questions. We put out the bat signal early in
Speaker 1: the day and here's what we've come up with on
Speaker 1: this fine Monday afternoons. Starting with question number one, Anthony
Speaker 1: Brown Jr. I am firmly in the camp of keeping
Speaker 1: Dave Caldwell and Doug Maron. I think coach Maron has
Speaker 1: done great this year. Also with their record, they would
Speaker 1: be able to coach the Senior Bowl, which would give
Speaker 1: them a leg up in the draft. I didn't see
Speaker 1: a question there, Pete. But yeah, look, I don't see
Speaker 1: that happening. I just don't. I don't. I don't think
Speaker 1: they're coming back one. How do you sell that to
Speaker 1: your fan base? I don't think you can. Come on,
Speaker 1: let's be honest about it. JP, There's no way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's And as far as coaching the Senior Bowl,
Speaker 1: that's very helpful if you do coach a senior Bowl,
Speaker 1: if there is a Senior Bowl. We coached three in
Speaker 1: a row, Pete, I know, but it usually helpful. Three
Speaker 1: found guys in it? Three which ones? Which ones did
Speaker 1: they coach? They coached? Um would have been what fifteen
Speaker 1: sixteen fourteen fifteen sixteen? Yeah, yeah, should be helpful. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, mobile is cool and all. I mean we
Speaker 1: were there for a few days in a week and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. I mean like mobile. But alright, let's
Speaker 1: move on social Number three. This is at CF Zeller's
Speaker 1: for what's the one quality you would look for above
Speaker 1: the rest for a head coach? Inspirational, spirited, offensive, guru coaching,
Speaker 1: three roots attitude, not at all trying to pile on
Speaker 1: Doug with the expectations that were set this year are
Speaker 1: what they are. Great show what do you think being
Speaker 1: able to things? For me, being able to lead men
Speaker 1: and delegate. And by that I mean if you hire
Speaker 1: good coaches, let them coach. If you believe in nothing
Speaker 1: them got those guys to hire them, let them coach.
Speaker 1: But you gotta be able to handle the big picture, clock, management, uh, discipline,
Speaker 1: all the the things that I think it takes to
Speaker 1: be a head coach. You don't have to be you
Speaker 1: don't have to be the guy making the game plan.
Speaker 1: You don't have to be the guy calling the play.
Speaker 1: And you see that a lot with some of the
Speaker 1: You know, Mike Tomlin handles the big picture, and I
Speaker 1: think he does a great job with it. Yeah, manage
Speaker 1: everybody and get the right people in place to do
Speaker 1: all that. And then you just know how to handle people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you handle your people, You handle your coaches, You let
Speaker 1: your coaches coach, and you handle your players. You treat
Speaker 1: them with respect, you treat them like men. And but
Speaker 1: you also have to have a firm hand. You can't
Speaker 1: let what happened in Jacksonville in two thousand and seventeen
Speaker 1: and eighteen happen again. And if you have the right guy,
Speaker 1: he's not going to allow that to happen again. Our
Speaker 1: next question from at Waco Grina from down in Argentina. Hey,
Speaker 1: they're good afternoon. The JP Pete and Tony trio on
Speaker 1: Monday is amazing. Draft mode for Tony is best player available?
Speaker 1: But which are the most needed positions to draft and
Speaker 1: which ones can be addressed in free agency salutos best
Speaker 1: player available. You have to draft the quarterback at number two.
Speaker 1: If there are number two, they're taking just the field.
Speaker 1: If it's not, you know, if he's you have to
Speaker 1: that's that's a given. But I think this is one
Speaker 1: of those things, and Tony kind of nailed it. It's
Speaker 1: been a philosophy of mine for a long time. JP
Speaker 1: you draft around the quarterback. And I've always said this,
Speaker 1: it used to be a four pronged approach the draft,
Speaker 1: and you draft the quarterback. You draft the guy who
Speaker 1: can knock down the quarterback. You draft the guy who
Speaker 1: can keep that guy from knocking down the quarterback, which
Speaker 1: is your offensive lineman tackle preferably, you draft the guy
Speaker 1: who knocks the quarterback passes down, which is the wide receiver.
Speaker 1: And now the way the game is played, you have
Speaker 1: to add a fifth to that, and that's the big
Speaker 1: play wide receiver. It's become a five pronged approach to
Speaker 1: winning and drafting. And if you fill those spots and
Speaker 1: they're all good players, probably gonna have a pretty done
Speaker 1: good team. That your hand was right in the camera
Speaker 1: there for those watching on the video. Okay, I mean, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you have those five players, you have a star
Speaker 1: pass rusher, a star quarterback, a really quality left tackle,
Speaker 1: a corner who could play man coverage and lockdown one
Speaker 1: side of the field, and a big play receiver, your
Speaker 1: team is probably gonna be pretty good. Haven't they done
Speaker 1: that around here? Last few years? They thought they did,
Speaker 1: They just didn't pick the right guys or those guys
Speaker 1: are now on other teams. Think about well, okay, the quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: they flopped major quarterback drafts slopped them all left, which flop,
Speaker 1: never flop. Right, there's your over, so you're over at
Speaker 1: that position. Pass rusher, Dante Fowler fop uh, Josh Allen
Speaker 1: good to be determined how good he can be. Chason
Speaker 1: is nothing. Um so that's you know. And Gockway was
Speaker 1: a hit sort of but but he was the third
Speaker 1: round right, yeah, sorry, we're talking about your your now
Speaker 1: that Tony's back. Your approach. You talk about being good
Speaker 1: on the line and being good on the quarterback. And
Speaker 1: I've always had the four proNT approach. The drafting is
Speaker 1: now a five proNT approach. You get the quarterback, the
Speaker 1: guy who knocks the quarterback down, the guy who protects
Speaker 1: the quarterback and keeps those guys from knocking them down.
Speaker 1: And the guy who knocks the quarterbacks passes down on
Speaker 1: the outside of the corner. If you get those four
Speaker 1: and I've added the big play receiver because of the
Speaker 1: way the game is played now, but you get those five,
Speaker 1: the team is probably gonna be pretty good. So I
Speaker 1: would argue it's hard to get all those. Number one
Speaker 1: right past, pass rusher is more important than d B
Speaker 1: every day of the week. Yes, of course I agree,
Speaker 1: and so like, just focus on this, Go find go
Speaker 1: find a quarterback, Go find a pass rusher, and go
Speaker 1: find people who can protect the quarterback. Go do that.
Speaker 1: You're going to be a good team. If you can
Speaker 1: protect the quarterback and control the line of scrimmage with
Speaker 1: a good quarterback, you're gonna be good. If you can
Speaker 1: rush the quarterback and hit him, then guess what, your
Speaker 1: secondary gets a lot better. Of course, But but again
Speaker 1: I thought that is more important than get in the guard. Um.
Speaker 1: Drew Brees would disagree with you. He wants to he
Speaker 1: wants a firm inside because he's like the two best
Speaker 1: positions on his line of the right tackle. Let I
Speaker 1: agree with you, that's fair, But My point is saying this.
Speaker 1: I was talking to the defensive coordinator, very well respected,
Speaker 1: whose coaches good defenses, and everyone listening. It's not it
Speaker 1: was not Gus Bradley with someone else. Um that UM
Speaker 1: told me is his corners well to like come say,
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, where's the pass rush? Because they know
Speaker 1: could you only can cover so long? If you like,
Speaker 1: let me tell you what you want to know. Where
Speaker 1: the Rams defense is. Past defense is really good. It's
Speaker 1: not like Jalen Rams is a big part of it.
Speaker 1: He's a very good player. But they're good because they
Speaker 1: can rush the passer with They have thirty one sacks
Speaker 1: their second and there there the league attack. They pressures right.
Speaker 1: But but again, you know, there's this old perception out
Speaker 1: there now in analytic world that the dbs are more
Speaker 1: important than the than the defensive line. And I don't
Speaker 1: believe it one better either. I'm with you. Let's get
Speaker 1: to our next question from at UCF Jaguar. How much
Speaker 1: of this is bad drafting versus not developing talent? Our
Speaker 1: players are always regressing. No way, Guys like Juwan Taylor,
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, and DJ Chart should be worse than they
Speaker 1: were last year. And they I don't think DJ Shark
Speaker 1: is well he was banged up though, yeah, but I
Speaker 1: don't think he's playing with quarterbacks. He's he better watch out.
Speaker 1: He'd end up being like Allen Robinson, never being able
Speaker 1: to play with a good quarterback. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: I don't think it's DJ. I just a good dj um.
Speaker 1: But the other two have regressed, well, Josh, Allen's been hurt,
Speaker 1: Pete and how hurt is that? We don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's been hurt a couple of games. You want, Taylor
Speaker 1: has been as regrets that's fair or at least don't
Speaker 1: say he hasn't improved. It hasn't improved. Um, I mean
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I think it's more. I think
Speaker 1: it's drafting more than anything. Go look at the overall roster.
Speaker 1: It's the roster billboard than anything. You're asking me and people,
Speaker 1: and people will say, well, they didn't have an off
Speaker 1: season to get better and do there, and but you've
Speaker 1: seen other guys on other teams get better from year
Speaker 1: one the year two. But people, what would you say
Speaker 1: if you looked at where this organization is right now?
Speaker 1: Is it more coaching or more player acquisition? Acquisition. We've
Speaker 1: ross through this before. Yeah, but but you could point
Speaker 1: to a guy like Jawan Taylor and put it on
Speaker 1: the coo. Okay, but yeah, that's one off. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at fifty three guys, right, But but I thought Jowan
Speaker 1: Taylor was gonna look like a monster this year, and
Speaker 1: it hasn't happened. He's been inconsistent that the coach staff
Speaker 1: not on him. It ultimately on the guy. What is
Speaker 1: he doing? If you're an offensive lineman, you're a tackle,
Speaker 1: you're gonna go to all things. What's he doing wrong?
Speaker 1: His hands aren't great, he turns too much, thank he's
Speaker 1: too vertical at times, he doesn't make good like he
Speaker 1: gave up a pressure hit just like poor set like
Speaker 1: like and it was like almost like a not recognizing
Speaker 1: the situation who you're blocking and where the guy you know,
Speaker 1: into your guys lined up, and what you're trying to do.
Speaker 1: It's like it was just like lack of where you know?
Speaker 1: Is that the one where t J. Watt came around
Speaker 1: and and he looked like he came from black to
Speaker 1: get in there and get him. It wasn't like it
Speaker 1: was no, it was outside. It was I mean, it's
Speaker 1: a look, you should know exactly what's coming and so
Speaker 1: that stuff mental more than fit and cool. I mean
Speaker 1: he could play. I'm convinced he could play. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: thought he would be a star this year. I thought
Speaker 1: he would be one of the better right tackles in
Speaker 1: the league this year. Alright, one final question here, Um,
Speaker 1: this actually is not even a question, it's a comment
Speaker 1: at Janko Jack nine O four. At this point, I'd
Speaker 1: be more entertained watching Bassell and Prisco in a boxing
Speaker 1: match every Sunday than watching what I'm seeing every week.
Speaker 1: My money is on BASSELLI Prisco looks like he would
Speaker 1: punch below the belt, seeing that he's four ft three. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's a shot. Well, hey, I'm not four ft three.
Speaker 1: But b if I'm fighting Tony Bassell, I'm punching him.
Speaker 1: You know where I'm punching him. It's gonna way. Tony
Speaker 1: would have a higher pitched voice singing Pete and I
Speaker 1: don't want to fight. He would abuse me. He's a
Speaker 1: big man. Hurt It looks like it would hurt too.
Speaker 1: It's just I'm too old to fight. Who wants to fight?
Speaker 1: I'd go shoulder first, hips I would just say it's
Speaker 1: all you congratulated. You win. I don't want to get
Speaker 1: thrown around by a big man. I'll tell you that
Speaker 1: right now. I love it. Social questions are done. Thank
Speaker 1: you for the submissions today. We'll be back with more
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Speaker 1: The fight continues Jaguars Happy Hour on this Monday. After
Speaker 1: the Steelers knocked off the Jaguars yesterday. Three Steelers are
Speaker 1: ten and oh the Jaguars are not there one and nine.
Speaker 1: They've lost nine straight. It's time now for the a
Speaker 1: f C South. How are rankings and review. You're shaking
Speaker 1: your head, Pete, what are you shaking your head out?
Speaker 1: Because the Steelers have a legitimate chance to go undefeated, well,
Speaker 1: and they have full for Thursday night. Baltimore is bad
Speaker 1: right now. Then they have the toughest game remaining is
Speaker 1: at Buffalo game. Losing that one, Yeah, that's it. You
Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen. They're gonna clinch the division on
Speaker 1: Thursday night essentially and be jocking for home field advantage.
Speaker 1: Of people are saying, oh, it might be better off
Speaker 1: if they lose a game. No, it's not win them all.
Speaker 1: Let's look around the ANFC South. Yesterday, the Titans over
Speaker 1: the Ravens in overtime, thirty to twenty four, Derrick Henry
Speaker 1: to the house in the extra period, Pete Lamar Jackson, Man,
Speaker 1: they passing game is so limited. This is a passing league,
Speaker 1: and you keep teams in the game, That's what's gonna happen. Uh.
Speaker 1: I went back and I actually was doing something on
Speaker 1: him today and I went back. He's starting like fifty
Speaker 1: fewer passes on first down. Then Kyler Murray and Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: both quarterbacks who move around. They gotta let him throw
Speaker 1: an early downs wor let it happen. If he can't
Speaker 1: do it, then you got the wrong guy. Let him,
Speaker 1: Let him play fast and free and first down. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I mean, I think here's the other thing is
Speaker 1: they got. I mean, you're right, his ability to runs great,
Speaker 1: but it can't be everything. You cannot. I don't think
Speaker 1: you can win consistently if that's the only thing you
Speaker 1: could do. And and I think he's regrets because I
Speaker 1: thought he was doing I thought he was better last year.
Speaker 1: In the pocket, they're throwing the ball and now you
Speaker 1: know this was you know, maybe a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: But Hollywood Brown their four and first round pick, not
Speaker 1: happy again. Zero catches, three targets, zero catches. But you
Speaker 1: know what to Tony. Teams are playing more nickel and
Speaker 1: dime against him, playing more man and on third down particularly,
Speaker 1: and they're asking him to go make the accurate throw
Speaker 1: and he's not making it. You know, when you play,
Speaker 1: when you run the ball like he runs the ball,
Speaker 1: you can play that zone and he'll stick it in
Speaker 1: the tight endle curl in the middle of it. You'll
Speaker 1: hit him for a past. But now there's not they're
Speaker 1: not really worried about it as much. And the offensive
Speaker 1: line and the offensive lines beat up and you know
Speaker 1: they've got all kinds of issues. Right Stanley out Scura,
Speaker 1: they bench because he can't snap all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: something's going on there, I mean, and then and then no,
Speaker 1: they didn't have you into this year, which hurt them
Speaker 1: a great deal. But again though it's more him he's
Speaker 1: got I think again, this happened with Kaepernick when when
Speaker 1: Roman ran the Kaepernick offense. Eventually it leveled off because
Speaker 1: people they figure it out. Yeah, but the Titans give
Speaker 1: them credit because they were done in that game. They
Speaker 1: were down to eleven. I didn't think they were gonna
Speaker 1: be able and Dan I was scattered shooting it all
Speaker 1: over the place for a while, and they found the
Speaker 1: way to come back. You gotta give their tough, their
Speaker 1: physical and that was a big win for them. What
Speaker 1: was what was going on between Harbor and they kind
Speaker 1: of celebrated on the logo. I think the Titans and
Speaker 1: Hardball took offense to it and that's where they got in.
Speaker 1: There was some free game stuff too, right, the Titans
Speaker 1: guys and the Ravens coaches were laughing at each other
Speaker 1: pre game. Yep, yep. Let mean to say that's not
Speaker 1: that's I mean Harbor wants none of that? Would not well,
Speaker 1: might we played it out onebel don't you think Rabels
Speaker 1: the in a thirty two fight off between the end coaches.
Speaker 1: He's the last one standing. Let me go through real quick. Um,
Speaker 1: I think Doug would get some shots in, but he
Speaker 1: would he would be like Pete. He would he would
Speaker 1: play a little dirty just because that's okay. I think
Speaker 1: Doug would be a good match. I mean he's a
Speaker 1: big dog dog would beat Doug. Would be good. But
Speaker 1: what about um, Like back in the day, not now.
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera would have been a good fight back in
Speaker 1: the day. But Ron, I bet you still have some
Speaker 1: fight in him. He'd be like, okay, let me tell you.
Speaker 1: You know, Jack del Rio might have been that right
Speaker 1: Bell Belichick would have some scheme he tried to figure out.
Speaker 1: We all know. Yeah, it would be even fun to
Speaker 1: see who would who would be? I think Rabel would
Speaker 1: be one of the last men's standing. I think Rivera Rabel. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then there's some sneaky guys like I think Anthony Lynn
Speaker 1: is sneaky, tough. He's another one for I forgot Anthony. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you would be there definitely in the end. He carry
Speaker 1: your first one out. No, yeah, he'd be one of them.
Speaker 1: He's out of there. Uh, Texans over the Patriots, by
Speaker 1: the way, bad boss, bad loss for the Patriots. Yeah,
Speaker 1: goodwin for the Texans. I mean they you know what
Speaker 1: the Texas did. They came out and they threw the
Speaker 1: ball and early down They had been doing much more
Speaker 1: of that with without Phill O'Brien and Deshaun Watson played better. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a bad loss for Patriots. But that's a good
Speaker 1: win for the Texas. I mean alive. But I thought
Speaker 1: I thought the Patriots would just Patriots run all over them.
Speaker 1: I did too, I did too. Didn't happen. The Colts
Speaker 1: were down big in the game, but they rallied to
Speaker 1: beat the Packers and over time. The Packers fumbled in
Speaker 1: over time to set up the game winning field goal.
Speaker 1: And this was a fun game to watch down the stretch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Packers have defensive problems stopping the run, and the Colts,
Speaker 1: the cult should have put game away in regulation. He said,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys saw that. They're trying
Speaker 1: to run out the clock and they keep getting holding penalties.
Speaker 1: It was amazing. They ended up with a third Wood
Speaker 1: could have been a third and third or second and thirty.
Speaker 1: It took him out, you know, it took him out
Speaker 1: of field goal range, and they punted and then Rogers
Speaker 1: went down. And look, the Packers have defensive issues, the
Speaker 1: Colts might have some offensive issues, and so it kind
Speaker 1: of evened out there. But they made a place where
Speaker 1: they had to. Is the offices are the offensive issues
Speaker 1: for the Colts? One Philip Rivers, No, because he didn't
Speaker 1: actually play that poorly. Let I think, yes, you know
Speaker 1: you always talk about the Titans playmakers, Pittman starting to
Speaker 1: make some plays, but t Y Hill has been a
Speaker 1: major disappointment this year. Yeah, all right, quickly, guys, NFC
Speaker 1: South Power rankings. Um, I have an idea how they're
Speaker 1: gonna go, and Tony already spoiled. I passed. No, you
Speaker 1: gotta say it. He's saying it. One bold and they'll
Speaker 1: beat the Titans this week to really take hold of
Speaker 1: the division. Two Titans, three Texans, and way a way
Speaker 1: down is the Jaguars. But the Jaguars kind of one
Speaker 1: yesterday and here's why. Not only did they lose so
Speaker 1: they keep their draft position the Texans one, So now
Speaker 1: people won't keep saying the only two wins the Texas
Speaker 1: god came against the jag Wire. Yeah, I'll agree with
Speaker 1: the same power rankings. Um, although I think the Titans
Speaker 1: too upset the Pulps this week. You do dr back
Speaker 1: road games. That's tough, and I don't I don't think
Speaker 1: they will all Right now, time for the current not
Speaker 1: so powerful draft order NFL draft. Let's count down from
Speaker 1: ten to number one. As it stands today, Panthers four
Speaker 1: and seven or draft ten, Falcons three and seven, nine,
Speaker 1: the Texans eight, but the Dolphins get to pick their
Speaker 1: three and seven. The Giants at three and seven with
Speaker 1: draft seventh, The l A Chargers at three and seven
Speaker 1: will draft six. Washington Football team at three and seven
Speaker 1: with draft five, the Dallas Cowboys at three and seven
Speaker 1: would draft fourth, The Cincinnati Bengals at to seven and
Speaker 1: one would draft third, The Jacksonville Jaguars at one and
Speaker 1: nine drafting second, and the New York Jets are oh
Speaker 1: and ten. They have the first overall pick as it
Speaker 1: stands today, I think the way Jacksonville sitting right now,
Speaker 1: they're almost a lot to get either Trevor Lawrence or
Speaker 1: Justin Fields. Well you can't. I mean you have room
Speaker 1: to win one more. If you win two more in
Speaker 1: the Bengals don't win another game, which they might not
Speaker 1: without Joe Burrow, then you gotta worry about people going
Speaker 1: Then you gotta worry about people going up to get
Speaker 1: that right, pick right, So don't win again. Well, it's
Speaker 1: my head, that's my advice. Or win one more to
Speaker 1: make everybody feel good. Then you're locked in to get
Speaker 1: Justin Fields. If you win one more, would you rather
Speaker 1: here's here we go. Would you rather not win another one?
Speaker 1: Answers that the Jets lose one or win one, and no,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have that. You're not gonna win another one,
Speaker 1: and you're locked into at least two. Well, if you're
Speaker 1: gonna be fourteen or fifteen losses, doesn't matter, you can.
Speaker 1: So you've come aboard on the one of fifteen. Lock
Speaker 1: it off, right, you're a green. That's a lot. I'm
Speaker 1: not there yet, Peter. Is it a lock for you? Oh,
Speaker 1: it's a lock. It's a lot. One lock locked it in.
Speaker 1: And you know what, that's a good thing because if
Speaker 1: the Jets win one, you pick first. It depends who
Speaker 1: you ask that question, too true, if it's a good
Speaker 1: the grand scheme of things again on anybody in the
Speaker 1: locker room, the brand scheme of things, I would agree
Speaker 1: with that. I mean, I guarantee you if you ask
Speaker 1: DJ Chart and the wide receivers if they had a
Speaker 1: chance next year to play with Trevor Lawrence their games
Speaker 1: and you put them on that old line detector thing,
Speaker 1: you know what the sounds gonna be. You know what
Speaker 1: the sound will be. Hey, DJ, would you rather play
Speaker 1: with Trevor Lawrence or win one more game? Oh? I'd
Speaker 1: rather win one more game? You're terrible. Would you rather
Speaker 1: have five seven good years with Trevor Lawrence or win
Speaker 1: one more meaningless game? I think that's an easy question.
Speaker 1: All right, let's come back. We'll go around the National
Speaker 1: Football League from yesterday and Monday night football. Tony Boselli
Speaker 1: has the call tonight in Tampa. We'll preview the game
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Speaker 1: down the Stretch on this Monday day after the Steelers
Speaker 1: Jaguars game. JP Shadrick Peepri's go Tony Vassali, Let's go
Speaker 1: around the National Football League quickly from yesterday some other games.
Speaker 1: By the way, the Ravens have added a few guys
Speaker 1: to the COVID Night team list after the game yesterday.
Speaker 1: J K. Dobbins one of those, mark Ingram one of those.
Speaker 1: They played Thursday night on Thanksgiving Night. How did they
Speaker 1: play on Sunday? I don't know, but they tested positive.
Speaker 1: They try tested positive this morning. I'm being sarcastic. By
Speaker 1: the way, Um, yeah, I mean they're not gonna play
Speaker 1: on Thursday, right So that means Gus Edwards will be
Speaker 1: your lead running back on Thursday. Means the Steelers about
Speaker 1: to heaven and know what it means to be better
Speaker 1: than the Ravens. And the Ravens have issues. That's not
Speaker 1: a good team right now. And who do they bring up? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good question. Who. All right, let's let's touch
Speaker 1: in these other games quickly, go around the league. We'll
Speaker 1: touch on Monday football. Copping got Panthers over the Lions
Speaker 1: twenty to nothing. Lions are done patrician, by the way.
Speaker 1: They blow out the GM two. Yes, I think, yes,
Speaker 1: it's so there's your there's more competition. I mean, you
Speaker 1: know you talk about the Falcons. Now there's another group.
Speaker 1: And then you got the Texas four four teams looking
Speaker 1: for GM's possibly Browns. Browns over the Eagle seventeen. Big
Speaker 1: rushing and defensive day for the Browns coming in here
Speaker 1: next week. They can run the ball. And my goodness,
Speaker 1: I've got two backs. They've got a good offensive line.
Speaker 1: Um that team has. I mean, Baker Mayfield is like
Speaker 1: an afterthought. That team offensively, it's about Cream Hunt and
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb. But the Jaguards get a break though. No
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett Olivia Vernon played well last week, though he did,
Speaker 1: he did. But that offensive line, are they the best
Speaker 1: offensive line in the league right now? Tony I've only
Speaker 1: seen him one in the time I saw him. They're
Speaker 1: really good because the guards are really good. But Tonia
Speaker 1: and Teller, the center is good. Uh. And then you
Speaker 1: look at the right tackle conference playing well over there,
Speaker 1: and their left tackles starting to play better as a rookie.
Speaker 1: They're they're good up front. When I saw him early,
Speaker 1: the left tackle was coming along, really physical and the
Speaker 1: really physical player in the run game though, And they're
Speaker 1: good and they run. That's all everything they do is
Speaker 1: based on that run. Everything Saints over the Falcons twenty
Speaker 1: four nine. How the quarterback position work out? Pete, Oh,
Speaker 1: everybody wanted this. This reminds me of Tebow. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's like, let's rush him up. Oh my god, Look
Speaker 1: what he can do is Tebow? Never how many people
Speaker 1: held onto the Tebow mania for years and there was
Speaker 1: one person that held the line and never would break
Speaker 1: and that was me. And I was right. And I
Speaker 1: don't think this kid's any good either as a quarterback. Look,
Speaker 1: all I know is I went there on the sidelines
Speaker 1: with Bobby Abert. You know Bobby Hebert, he's covered. That's
Speaker 1: quarterback there, and we were talking and Bobby and his
Speaker 1: typical cage and accent, says, I don't know what he
Speaker 1: sees to him. He doesn't think he could pass? How
Speaker 1: do you I didn't see any of the game. How
Speaker 1: a couple it was okay, But I mean, can you
Speaker 1: get excited about a team that when the quarterback doesn't
Speaker 1: throw a touchdown pass against the Atlanta Falcon, we're giving
Speaker 1: up twenty eight points a game. Can you get excited
Speaker 1: about that? If that's what you want from your quarterback,
Speaker 1: then we'll give him kudos. The Washington over the Bengals
Speaker 1: nine borrow toward multiple ligaments in his left knee. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that was bad. You hate to see it. You
Speaker 1: hate to see a guy having that kind of rookie
Speaker 1: year ago down. But you know, I hear today people
Speaker 1: talking about, oh, he might not be ready, he might
Speaker 1: not be ready. We've seen guys Rob Gronkowski tours a
Speaker 1: c L and his m c L in December and
Speaker 1: played on opening Day. The problem is he's gonna miss
Speaker 1: all the off season work that he didn't get this
Speaker 1: year either, that's the problem. Yeah, it's too bad. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: uh As everyone knows injuries part of the game, and
Speaker 1: but you just hate to see it in such a
Speaker 1: good young player. Yeah, Broncos over the Dolphins, everybody hates
Speaker 1: to all of a sudden, why did they take him? Now?
Speaker 1: If you went to him, isn't the whole part of
Speaker 1: playing him is allowing him to have those type of
Speaker 1: situations where he's downten in the fourth quarter to see
Speaker 1: if he can get out from underneath the crap. Because
Speaker 1: because Pete, they think they're in a playoff team and
Speaker 1: they thought, okay, Patrick could bring him back. I get it,
Speaker 1: I understand that, but is this year are they even
Speaker 1: if they get the playoffs and they're gonna make a
Speaker 1: run in the playoffs. Done. So it's about building him.
Speaker 1: It's not about this year. I didn't how bad? How
Speaker 1: how bad did he look? Well? The offensive line guy
Speaker 1: just destroyed. He was getting crushed. They were that he
Speaker 1: didn't look great, but the line was bad and they
Speaker 1: had played pretty well as a group that that line.
Speaker 1: They're young chargers over the jetst Herbert has three or
Speaker 1: more passing touchdowns and five games. That's a rookie record.
Speaker 1: He's good that way. It comes out of his out
Speaker 1: of his hand. Uh. And he he threw a touchdown
Speaker 1: pass in the fourth quarter on Sunday. They went, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, it just was a rifle shot between about
Speaker 1: three guys. He's good. He's really good. Apparently the Cowboys
Speaker 1: were fired up by the head coaches meeting when he
Speaker 1: used a sledgehammer like Gallagher and Small a bunch of
Speaker 1: watermelons in front of the team for the Cowboys and
Speaker 1: they beat the Vikings. Why did he get is this
Speaker 1: high school? Remember the acts in the locker room? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that worked well. I can't stand motivational crap. If you're
Speaker 1: not ready to play, what's wrong with you what, what's
Speaker 1: the sledgehammer in the watermelons? Don't know what was the acts?
Speaker 1: What was the acts? Chopping? Would keep chopping, chop, chop chop.
Speaker 1: This punter's camp off. It's hilarious. It's not the Chiefs
Speaker 1: over the Raiders five one. This was that was a
Speaker 1: good football game. Last time. That was a good football game.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs had defensive issues though, and look, give Derek
Speaker 1: car credit played well, but they have issues on defense.
Speaker 1: And then we know the Raiders do. Was there any
Speaker 1: doubt my Homes is getting the ball going right down
Speaker 1: to the field scoring and and can people quit raving
Speaker 1: about Jonathan abram because he makes a big hit or
Speaker 1: two the guy gets that was his coverage? What was
Speaker 1: he doing? He comes running up. If Mahomes scrambles for
Speaker 1: seven yard eight yards, who care? Right? Those are the
Speaker 1: games from yesterday in week eleven. Time for Monday Night
Speaker 1: football and a great battle on tampat Raymond James Stadium
Speaker 1: in Tampa. Aaron Donald Jalen Ramsey in the defense of
Speaker 1: the six and three Los Angeles Rams meet the goat,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Gronk and Leonard for that and the seven
Speaker 1: and three Tampa Bay Buccaneers fire the Cannons told meets
Speaker 1: Leather at eight fifteen, who you got tonight in Tampa.
Speaker 1: I think Tampa will win a close game. I think
Speaker 1: this is gonna. I want Tony because he's doing the
Speaker 1: game first series. If Tom Brady goes three and out,
Speaker 1: keep an eye on his body language, because you remember
Speaker 1: when he played at Night Dome a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: ago against the Saints. He went three and out and
Speaker 1: he started as Tom moping, and it carried over and
Speaker 1: he moped the entire game. He was terrible. And this
Speaker 1: you mentioned it, Tony. This Rams team could get after
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Well, the bigger issues this is the last
Speaker 1: three games. Tom Brady is one out of thirteen of
Speaker 1: passes that have traveled twenty or more yards. He's been
Speaker 1: wildly inaccurate down the field, and if you watch the tape,
Speaker 1: they're really inconsistent. Pete, it's like feast famine is an offense.
Speaker 1: And I worry about a good Rams defense that can
Speaker 1: cover you on the back half and rush the passer.
Speaker 1: I think that, But I think the Buccaneers win a
Speaker 1: close game. But I don't think there's a lot of
Speaker 1: points tonight. I don't either. And by the way, that
Speaker 1: other corner, Williams, is playing really well for the Rams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Darius Williams. Yeah, they're They're good on defense, and they're defense.
Speaker 1: The coordinator has done a good job again, though, I
Speaker 1: want to you know, I think part of the reason
Speaker 1: Brady has been inaccurate. I think the eyes are coming
Speaker 1: out a little bit now because if you look at
Speaker 1: I watched the tape, the ones, he's not looking at
Speaker 1: the rush of the ones. I mean, these are guys
Speaker 1: wide open. He missed two wide up in post patterns.
Speaker 1: One Devans won to Antonio Brown. Antonio Brown in the
Speaker 1: game last weekend. I mean, guys wide open and he
Speaker 1: just sailed them. Okay, So the headline from today is
Speaker 1: basely Brady washed up. Yeah, I'm doing that. I'm not
Speaker 1: that guy. It'll be the clip after the game tonight,
Speaker 1: all over social media. Have a great call tonight, Tony,
Speaker 1: enjoy it ly on Westwood One. Is that where you're on?
Speaker 1: All right, Tony Vasselli out of here, Pete Frisco, out
Speaker 1: of here. For our entire crew, I'm J. P. Shadrick.
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