1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: It is Monday, November. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars 2 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Happy Hour is brought to you by Jet Home Loans 3 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: and now a guy who believes turkeys are grown on 4 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: a poletree. J P. Sorry, you're stretching a little bit today, Joe, 5 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour on this Monday, the day 6 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: after the loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers. It is Thanksgiving week. 7 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: We have a lot to be thankful for. My name's 8 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: j P. Shadrick, Pete Frisco, Tony Boselli coming up. We've 9 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: got a busy program. The Steelers Jaguars review. We'll see 10 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: what went wrong. Not a lot went right, especially for 11 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: Jake Luton. He struggled for interceptions against the Steelers defense yesterday. 12 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: We'll break all that down, the Jaguars defense walking wounded. 13 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: We'll go around the FC South. We'll get to the 14 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: social media questions, which there were many today, and the 15 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: not so powerful draft order rankings, which has become unfortunately 16 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: a staple on the show. And we'll go around the 17 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: National Football League. Let's start with yesterday's game of Jack's 18 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: Baul seven three to the Steelers, the ninth consecutive loss, 19 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: tied for the longest losing streak in a single season 20 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: in franchise history. The only other time they did that 21 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: was Head coach Doug Marone not worried about himself. He's 22 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: worried about the players and coaches. At the end of day, 23 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to look in the mirror and say, Okay, 24 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: you know, have I done everything I possibly can? You know, 25 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: if I if I've exhausted every avenue, have I you know, 26 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: motivated to the best of my ability, If how I 27 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: kept everything together? And I'm not gonna say that's that 28 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: that that's a win. That's part of my job, that's 29 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: my responsibility, and that's when I take, um a lot 30 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: of pride in and I haven't been always been able 31 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: to do that. And you guys know about the past, 32 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: so I haven't been able to keep that you know, 33 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: thing together at times. But um, you know, I feel 34 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: I feel like I owe these guys everything that I have. 35 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: That's just how I feel. Head coach Doug Marone. It's 36 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: a struggle right now. Pete Prisco, Tony Baselli joining us 37 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: on the program and to three now nine in a row. Guys, 38 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: what's up, Pete Tony? I am breaking news real quick, 39 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 1: just breaking news. We just we can actually change a 40 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: segment on the show. I have the Jaguars now lasting 41 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: the power ranking after they were third last week ago. 42 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: They're officially where are you happen in the league? That's 43 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: the question one. But you got your fingers crossed in 44 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: their thirty second by the time the wait, by the 45 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: time of the season, it's not pretty JP. And you 46 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: know every Monday we get on here and we say, oh, 47 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna say the same old things again. Well, the 48 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: reality is that's what happens when your team is bad. 49 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: The question is is this the worst team in the 50 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: history of the Jacksonville Jaguars, And the answer to that 51 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: question is definitely yes. Well, here's an interesting stat Pete, 52 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: I guess I hate to say, back that up. During 53 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: this year, the average in the nine game losing streak UM. 54 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: JP mentioned that the last one was that was year 55 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: Gus Browdley got fired. The marginal defeat for this team 56 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: is I think fifteen and a half points. The marginal 57 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: defeat for that team was eight point three points. And 58 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: so a whole time they're getting beat by a whole 59 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: touchdown more UM then the last time this franchise had 60 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: a nine game losing streak. It's the worst team. There's 61 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: no way to sugarcoat it. It's by far the worst team. 62 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: And they're gonna be changes coming, And the question becomes 63 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: when do they come? Is there any reason at all 64 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: to make those changes right now? I don't. Thanks, thanks 65 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: be rough this week, right, I mean, come on, I mean, 66 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: here's my problem with that, is it's a good it's 67 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: a good question. I'm not going to answer it because 68 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: I'm not it's not my responsibility to fire people or 69 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: hire people, and I don't like firing people on the radio. 70 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: And I've gotten I've gotten on other people who have 71 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: fired people on the radio. Yeah, especially because it was 72 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: a little premature. Um with that, I think it's a 73 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: fair question because is there is there any doubt that 74 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: it's it's going to happen. No, I don't think there's 75 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: any doubt. I don't know how shot On can look 76 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: the fan base and the media and the National Football 77 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: League in the face and say we're gonna bring everybody back. 78 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: I don't see how you can do that. So, but 79 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: then the question becomes, if you wait until the end 80 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: of the season, is that a disadvantage or are you 81 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: hurting your franchise by doing that? We saw the Falcons 82 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: clean house, and does that help them at all? Are 83 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: they they already used these stories, They already have some 84 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: candidates in mind. But don't you already know who the 85 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: candidates are? I think the only thing that again if 86 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: based on what you said, so it's assuming you're correct 87 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: that everyone's getting, you know, cleaned out. I think the 88 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: only thing I'm doing it sooner than later. Not on 89 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: the coaching side, but if you're gonna clean house on 90 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: the personnel on the GM side as well, getting that 91 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: GM in place first so that that individual's ability to 92 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: go hire the head coach that he wants. And we 93 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: know how to work and we know how that works 94 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: right after if you fire a guy on on Monday 95 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: or after the season's over, you usually want that GM 96 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: hired within a week to get your coaching search going 97 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: right away. That's right, because coaching search and by the way, 98 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta start working, you know, figure out 99 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: what you're doing in the draft, free agency, Senior Bowls 100 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, you know, only a couple of 101 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: weeks away. You know what's that gonna look like in 102 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: this COVID world, we don't even know. But there's a 103 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: lot of work to be done. Um, not just hiring 104 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: the coach, but also getting ready for the next year. 105 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: If you're that personnel person, if you're the GM. Yeah. 106 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: So I mean, look, those guys are smart. They've been 107 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: around the NFL a long time. They have to see 108 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: the handwriting on the wall. They have to know what's coming, 109 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: and I think they do. And it's like you said, Tony, 110 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: it's never fun to fire people, but you're hired in 111 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: that business to be fired. That's just the reality of it. 112 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: It's terrible, but that's the reality of it. Come on, 113 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: that's that's you. Name me a coach that doesn't get 114 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: fired rare, very rare. Well, it is rare, but it 115 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: still doesn't make it easy, especially around the holidays. We're 116 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: talking about it right now. I'm not I love. I 117 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: love to sit here and say, look, I respect all 118 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: the people that I've ever encountered inside that building from 119 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: a working standpoint, and Doug Morone, Dave call all of them. 120 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: I know them all. I've come to like them and 121 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: respect them. But they're not dumbies. They know they know 122 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: what this league is it's the results oriented league. Well, 123 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: it's not. It's just not. It is a result or 124 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: in your league, and you're gonna you know, you have 125 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: you've lost nine games in a row and and a 126 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: lot of those games haven't been closed. In the bigger concern, 127 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: I think outside of like, okay, the positives are you 128 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: have cap space and you have draft picks. But then 129 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: you say, okay, we have to make sure we use 130 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: that cap space in those draft picks wisely. Okay, what 131 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: give you the confidence that's gonna happen. Well, then you 132 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: just have to revert right back to the current roster. 133 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: Is this a good current roster? No? Okay, in the 134 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: in the and the job of the individuals led by 135 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: really Dave's job was to build this roster. And we 136 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: sit here right now with the youngest team in the 137 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: NFL and not overly talented, and at one and nine. 138 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean there's not some good pieces right and there, 139 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: of course, but then the next guy who doesn't, if 140 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: Dave does get fired, the next guy who comes in 141 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: is going to have some young players that he can 142 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: kind of build around a little bit. The problem is 143 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: now it's starting to trickle up and you're starting to 144 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: hear criticism of the ownership group, and so that's when 145 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: it becomes yes and yesterday, what first I saw it 146 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: was a tweet this second fastest to a hundred losses 147 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: in the NFL as an owner? Is that right? Correct? 148 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: If you count the playoff loss? Yes, So that's when 149 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: now if you're Shot Khan and you're Tony Khan and 150 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: you start seeing that kind of criticism, now it's bleeding 151 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: up to you. It's gone from this to this and 152 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: now it's up to you. So now you're sitting in 153 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: a situation where you're going to be faced with hearing 154 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: endless stream of criticism. But don't you think that started 155 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: in JP? I love your perspective, cause you fault Twitter 156 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: and you're having good handle on the fans better than anybody. 157 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: But I think that started the last offseason, Pete, when 158 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: there wasn't a change maybe last year. I think that's 159 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: a good. Yeah, I think it is. Um. They took 160 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: a lot of criticism for that to keeping its status quo. 161 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: But but now, just but JP, don't you agree judgment 162 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: by Twitter and social media and everything, now that it's 163 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: it's elevated to a newer level. Above them to from 164 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: you know here it's just Moron Pahl. Well, now it's 165 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: gotten up to the to the con I think whether 166 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 1: that's right or whether that's right. I mean, ultimately, you're 167 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: the owner of the team. You're responsible for that. You 168 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: hire and fire who you want. Well, I think that 169 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: the hard part is right now, is it's not just 170 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 1: a another losing season, another season of you know, double 171 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: digit losses. There's not a lot of hope in the 172 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: fan basese I mean, and that's where you really start 173 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: getting worried. I mean, one, you look at the crowd 174 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 1: yesterday was Steeler fans um Two. I mean you listen. 175 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: I mean I hear it from people that I'm friends 176 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 1: would playing golf withoos and hang out in the community 177 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: with you. Here, it on talk radio, you hear it 178 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: on Twitter, you know, you hear it everywhere. There's not 179 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: even hope. It's not like the hope is like hopefully, 180 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 1: you know, changes are made and we get Trevor Trevor 181 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 1: Lawrence or Justin Fields. That's all anyone has to hang 182 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: on to you right now. It's not like they say, man, 183 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: we're hopeful because of the team we have and we 184 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: we see a pathway to get there, to be good. 185 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: And that's where you start getting really concerned because it's 186 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: about all the entire organization at that point. And and 187 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: to me, like, if that's the hope one d and 188 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: one guy, then is that a sense of false hope? 189 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: And you need a lot more than that. That's a 190 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: that's a nice piece, that's a big piece, But it's 191 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: not like you're gonna win next year. You get a 192 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, it cures your ills. Well, yes, And there's 193 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback in Cincinnati named Joe Burrow that everyone 194 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: felt good until his knee went sideways because they couldn't 195 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: protect him and he got finally the abuse that he 196 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: got all year caught up to know that injury can 197 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: happen any any quarterback in the league. Okay, that's exhibit one. 198 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: You're right, it can. It's a dangerous game. Even if 199 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: you have the best offensive line. Guys can't get hurt, 200 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. I'm not putting it on just that. 201 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: I'll give you exhibit too. There's this guy called Andrew 202 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: Luck who should be at the prime of his career 203 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: right now, but because for five years, got the hell 204 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: beat out of him decided he didn't want to play 205 00:11:55,720 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: football anymore. And so it's not just it I see 206 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna I'm gonna flip on the other side 207 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: of that one too. That speaks more about him than 208 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: it does about I'm not saying. Okay, but my point 209 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: is this. Here's my point, and I think you agree 210 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: with me on this. If you want to have real hope, 211 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: in my opinion, it starts with the quarterback. What you 212 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: just said, no doubt about it. You and I are 213 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: a line. You have to have a franchise quarterback to 214 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: consistently win in this league. It's just the way it is, 215 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: the way the game is designed now more than ever 216 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: because of the rules and everything else. So we're agreement there, 217 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: But I'll say this, you better have a quarterback, and 218 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: after that, you better have somebody or multiple people who 219 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: can affect the quarterback, meaning a defensive front, and you 220 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: better have a bunch of dudes who can protect the quarterback. 221 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: If you don't have the foundation of big people on 222 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: both lines who can get after the quarterback and protect 223 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: the quarterback and that quarterback, it is really hard to 224 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: win in this league. Okay, let's let's let's been it forward. 225 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: This team somehow had Justin Herbert and the same offensive 226 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 1: line and the same skilled people, and James Robinson is 227 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: a running back as is. Is that a good offense? 228 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: It's it's pretty good. There there's your answer to your question. 229 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: That line is a great Tony, that line is not great. Nobody, 230 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: You're right, but you're still not. I don't think you 231 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: have a winning record right now because you can't affect 232 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: the quarterback. You have nine cents. That's the other side. 233 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: You've also used a lot of draft capital on the 234 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: other side of the ball to kind of which is 235 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: a problem. That's great issue, but that you get the 236 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: guy and then the rest of the stuff all fills 237 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: in after it. You have to get the guys first. 238 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: You can sild it. No, I understand what you're saying, 239 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: but you can't build it and hope, like heck, you 240 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: get the quarterback. You have to build it around the quarterback. 241 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: I said it last year. I've said it multiple times 242 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: and again nothing gets Gardner Minshew. I said that on 243 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: this show. We talked about it. I said on other 244 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: shows to the people, I would have drafted a quarterback 245 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: and gone after a quarterback. This year because I wasn't 246 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: sure Gardner minshows the franchise quarterback. And until you have 247 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: that guy, you have to be chasing to get that guy. 248 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: And this goes back to this take away. There are 249 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: two draft picks d J. Anderson and Chase on and 250 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: if you traded up to get Herbert, the franchise would 251 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: be in fifty thousand times better shape than it is 252 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: right now. There would be like you just said before, 253 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: that's my point. In Los Angeles for the Chargers, they 254 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: have a bunch of issues. They don't know how to 255 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: win games, that can't close out games and everything else. 256 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: There might be a there might be a head coaching 257 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: change there as well this year. You know, it's probably 258 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: a coin flip right now. But you know what, the 259 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: ten Charger fans that are actually in l A they 260 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: have bigger issues that I mean fans, But the ten 261 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: that are in they are hopeful because they watched that 262 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: guy actor for three fifty every week and stand in 263 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: the pocket and make plays on schedule and off schedule, 264 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: and they're like, you know what, we got our guys. 265 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: We might need to get a coach. We might need 266 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: to if we don't change the coach we might have 267 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: to figure out how to stay healthy. There's other issues, 268 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: but they have the guy Selly just made a fans 269 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: crack about another team top of cattle. Can't do that. 270 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: How many years of the Jaguar fans taking a beating 271 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: and people don't understand that there's actually a big type 272 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: fan base. They're just tired all losing. Is there a 273 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: big fan there was a there was a good fan 274 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: base in San Diego. I'm not saying the old time 275 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: Charger fans good fan you're telling me there's a really 276 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: a fan base in l A for the Charger. In Jansonville, 277 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: there's a fan base, That's what I'm saying. I have. 278 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: But they're not going to the games. I know. But 279 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: guess what since the Chargers moved there, Usually when the 280 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: team moves to a new city for the first year, 281 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: like people can't wait to go. The first year they 282 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: were there, they couldn't sell at the stadium. Pete, the 283 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: Chargers have been there before and played remember way back 284 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: in a day and they were the Los Angeles Chargers 285 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: at well. Boy, but you know what I'm saying. Yes, 286 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: But Tony, don't come on. You've been defending that Jacksonville 287 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: for years and year because they have a good because 288 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: there's fans here. Now there isn't not right now, there 289 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: isn't No, there's fans here. They are tired of it, 290 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: though they're mad. Even worse than that, I wish they 291 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: were really mad. I fear that the start of apathy 292 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: is coming in. So are there chances like yesterday? Are 293 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: there chance? Or people two nights? Are Are they getting mad? 294 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: Are they angry? You couldn't there was more Steeler fans, Pete, 295 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: I'm not making this up. JPU was there when I say, 296 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe that's a little bit of exaggeration, but 297 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: it was a lot of towels being slung around yesterday. 298 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: I'll say that, let's come back plenty ahead, will I 299 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: get into the office performance and what's next at the 300 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: quarterback position? This year? We won't go in the next year. 301 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: We will later in the show, but not this coming segment, 302 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: we'll discuss Luton's day yesterday and the decisions possibly ahead 303 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: the final six weeks of the season. 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Jaguars apt the Hour is presented 364 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: in part by t I A, a bank created to serve, 365 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: built to perform public where shopping is a pleasure, and 366 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: Baptist Health, changing healthcare for good. Uh. You know, I 367 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: don't think it disrupted my my rhythm. Um No, I'm 368 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: here to go through my reads and get the ball 369 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: in the heads of my playmakers. And I didn't do 370 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: a good enough job of that. Um you know, I 371 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: thought that one did a pretty good job, gave me 372 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: enough time to get the ball out and I just 373 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: did Next to Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour on Monday afternoon. 374 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: That's Jake Luton, the Jaguars quarterback after seven three loss 375 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: to the Steelers in week eleven, nine straight losses. Now 376 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: for the Jags j P, Shadrick, Pete Frisco and Tony 377 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: VASSELLI glad you're along with us today and that brings 378 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: us to the offensive discussion yesterday. Jake Luton sixteen of 379 00:21:55,920 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: thirty seven passing one yards, no touchdown, four interceptions, a 380 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: fifteen point five rating. Those are the stats in the game, 381 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: and you know it once they got behind by a 382 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: couple of scores and the running game was pretty much 383 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: out the window. We talked about a pregame Tony that 384 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: you kind an idea of what the Steelers defense could 385 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: do and and Luton I just didn't really have it 386 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: later in the game, and Doug Maron actually said after 387 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: the game he was thinking about bringing in Mike Lennan 388 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: didn't pull the trigger on that. How does Luton bounce 389 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: back from a day like this, Well, let me start 390 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: by saying, I appreciate his protecting the offensive line, but 391 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: I thought that especially as the game went on again, 392 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: I thought the tackle struggle at times, um, and I 393 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: think he was the right tackle really struggle. It looked 394 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: like for the TV. Well, I think both did it. 395 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: I mean, Um, I don't think it was a great day. UM. Now, 396 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: it didn't mean they were getting beat every play or 397 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: anything like that. Um, But there was too much pressure. 398 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: And I, I mean, I us have higher expectations of 399 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: both Cam and Jawan, So I appreciate. But but you 400 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: said that going in last week. Remember you said that 401 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: those tackles had problems last week against Green Bay, And 402 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: if they had problems against green Bay, they're gonna have 403 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: problems this week as well. I was worried about it. 404 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: I mean, those are two compass Russians they have there 405 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: and and um. But with that said, it wasn't always 406 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: on the offensive line. I think Luten missed some things. 407 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: I think he missed some opportunities down the field, and 408 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: he was widely inaccurate for the most part of the game. 409 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: And he just ye give him credit. He wasn't like 410 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,959 Speaker 1: he was panicked. It wasn't like he was jumping in 411 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: the pocket even when he the pocket was closing down 412 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: and there was traffic and everything like that. But he 413 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: just really inaccurate. Man, the ball was sailing on him 414 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: two weeks in a row. I kind of blamed the 415 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: wind last week when they played Green Bay, but there 416 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: was no wind yesterday and the ball was all over 417 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: the place. Yeah, I I thought just watching and I 418 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: went back and rewatched it today on a regular TV 419 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: and it just it was high way too many times. 420 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: But like, okay, give me one Connolly in the middle 421 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: of the field at a high ball. He should have 422 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 1: pulled that one in. Um, did you a great remember? 423 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: Oh yes, I mean in the hand the interception that 424 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: he was that was tipped at the goal and it 425 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: could have made it ten ten. I don't even know 426 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: where you're throwing the ball. He was throwing it. It It 427 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,479 Speaker 1: looks like you're starting to effort and he was covered. 428 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: He has nobody to go to there. It just it 429 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: was not a good performance by Luton. But again, is 430 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: it a performance. The numbers are far worse than the performance. 431 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: Let's put it that way. Don't you think the tip 432 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: of the lot of Primage the one he was so 433 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: in He was so inaccurate. I mean even the start 434 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: of the game, like some of the catches guys had 435 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: to make were like acrobatic catches to go up high, 436 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: and everything was sailing on him and everything's a fastball. 437 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: There's no change of me. It's just like coming out 438 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: of there, hun it's offline. And so yeah, no, I 439 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: don't think I think I put it on him. I 440 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: think it was on him. I don't think the numbers 441 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: were good. I don't think the performance was good. And 442 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: there was one that James Robinson had to catch on 443 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: the far sideline out on the left. It was a 444 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: great catch, but it wasn't close to anchorate. So what 445 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: do you do? Oh gosh, I mean, I'll say this. 446 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: Doug Maron today said that he needs to see Gardner. 447 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,479 Speaker 1: Minsh you throw a little bit, he said. The athletic 448 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: training staff said he's a percent, but they need to 449 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: see more throwing and see the coaching staff se him 450 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: on the practice field to see how Gardner is and 451 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 1: then get everybody you know before that, get everybody around 452 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: today and figure out how Jake's doing above the shoulders, 453 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: how Gardner's hand is doing, how Glennon is, and then 454 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: make a decision after that. So he wasn't ready to 455 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: make a move today, Yeah, I mean to play. You 456 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: think he's going back to him? Yeah? I think I 457 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: think so. I think so too. What would you do 458 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: I go back? We'll probably go back there. Glennon is 459 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: out of the equation for me. I'm not playing him. No, 460 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm not playing Glennon either. Quickly remember a couple of 461 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: weeks ago, it's like, oh, Luton is gonna be the 462 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: guy all year. He might struggle a little bit, but 463 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: he's got a big arm, he can throw it down 464 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: the field and all this. But defensive face yesterday, Yeah 465 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: I know. And here's the thing. I go back and 466 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 1: forth because Gardner probably gives you more because of his 467 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: athletic ability, extending plays and doing different things. Limited with 468 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 1: his arm um more accurate than uh way more much 469 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: more accurate than Luten. But you're limited, I think, I 470 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: mean at least like Luton's only he's a rookie. It's 471 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: only three games, which aren't you like more interested to 472 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 1: see what Luton can do. I probably would start looting again, 473 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: but I think he's gonna go back to min Chick 474 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: or you Fencho is healthy and you don't go to him. 475 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: If you start looting in the ball, sailing all over 476 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: the place in the quarter, then you go to Minshew 477 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: that he's in the rest of the season. That's another possibility. Yeah, 478 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: does it really matter? Almost It doesn't. This is where 479 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: it matters. It doesn't matter to you, It doesn't the fans, 480 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: I'm not even sure care at this point. It doesn't 481 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: matter the guys on that team and Dug and so 482 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 1: it Doug's responsibility. What he needs to do, honestly is 483 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: in him and the staff. I have to make the decision. 484 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: Whoever gives you the best chance to win. Well, what 485 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: if that's Glennon, then you can go play Glennon? What 486 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: because Here's here's the thing. What do they care about 487 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: next year? They don't. So you're trying to win for 488 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: your guys. You have right now, So go play Glennon. 489 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: If he's the best. If you think Glennon gives you 490 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: the best chance to win, and you're Doug Morone, you 491 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: play him. I agree with you already. And if and 492 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: if Mike Glennon's your best chance to win, God bless you. 493 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: On that note, Let's take a time out to the 494 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: defensive side. A lot of injuries on that side of 495 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: the ball going into the game and a few more 496 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: coming out of the game as well. 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And when when a couple of 566 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: those players are fifty yard passes on the outside, that's 567 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: an easy way to give up some points. But I 568 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: mean they're out there competing. Um. Even the guys who 569 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,479 Speaker 1: are out there, the young guys, some of them are 570 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: hurt playing through injuries during the game. UM, So you 571 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: can't be can't be nothing but proud of the effort 572 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: they put out there. Joe Schobert, Jaguar's linebacker. Thirteen tackles 573 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: yesterday and the loss to the Steelers three the final 574 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour, j P. Shadrick, Tony Boselli, 575 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: Pete Frisco, your social questions coming up in the second 576 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: hour to day, I was flipping around to the defense here, 577 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: and you know, they were in the first half of 578 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: the game. I felt like they were hanging in there 579 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: at least, you know, and then things kind of slipped 580 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: away towards the back end of the football game yesterday. 581 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: Considering everything that was going on going into the game, 582 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: they didn't have the starting outside corners, and Henderson's of 583 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: course on injury reserve, and then Sydney Jones has an 584 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: achilles issue now, so he was inactive for the game. 585 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: He was questionable on Friday going in he did not play. 586 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: He had a bunch of new faces out there on 587 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: the outside and in the secondary. And then during the 588 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: game a bunch of guys went down with injury. Daniel 589 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: Thomas banged up an army issue, Josh Allen obviously with 590 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: a new issue, and d J. Hayden grabbed the back 591 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: of his handy again. So Doug Barone today said those 592 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: three guys will be out for quote, quite a bit 593 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: of time. He didn't give a specific time period for 594 00:33:54,680 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: those guys. Andrew norm Thomas was an arm wasn't it. Yeah, 595 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: it was an arm did break it? I haven't heard officially, 596 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: and Doug didn't say maybe I saw that on Twitter. 597 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: So it was an armed issue. He's gonna be out 598 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: for a while, is what he said. And then for 599 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 1: Alan there's no ligament damage, so that's the good news. 600 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: But it sounds like he'll be out for a while 601 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: as well. So they were banged up going in there. 602 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: Even more bang up now, Pete, Yeah, and to the court. Okay, Well, 603 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: Sydney Jones play next week. I mean, look at the 604 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: group of guys that are on the field. It's incredible. 605 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: Claybrooks had a rough over yesterday. I mean he had 606 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: He looked like a guy who was a rookie who 607 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: shouldn't be starting, and he was thrust into the starting lineup. 608 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: And those are those guys are gonna have those kind 609 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:48,280 Speaker 1: of games. It's hard to find guys who had really 610 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: good games. Are good games on defense, and which is 611 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: interesting because they really didn't give up a ton of points. 612 00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Hamilton's flashed at times. Again, I thought, and you, Tony, 613 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't great, but it was. Yeah. I 614 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: mean I give I give the defense credit. I mean 615 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: they hung in there. I mean they only they gave 616 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: up twenty seven points, so it can't be that good. 617 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: But the offense had four turnovers. That's four extra possessions 618 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: at the Steelers got um and if you look at it, 619 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: I thought that, you know, outside of three runs at 620 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: Connor kind of broke, they did a good job against 621 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 1: the run game that the Steelers issues. I don't think 622 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: that offensive line is very good at run blocking at all, 623 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: and that that's I think that's gonna come bite them 624 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,919 Speaker 1: at some point. Um. And I give Todd Washington of credit. 625 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: I thought he was really creative with the blitz is 626 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,479 Speaker 1: and he was. That was his most creative game, I thought. 627 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: I thought he thought he did a really good job 628 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: and he competed and can confused Ben a couple of times. 629 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 1: You should have to pick six with Jared Wilson broke 630 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: on that ball and just couldn't hold onto it. So 631 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 1: you know, the defense played fine. I mean, I mean 632 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: that's a that's a good offense. It's an offense. It's 633 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,959 Speaker 1: and scots and points. I got weapons, and I thought 634 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 1: they hung in there. If you think about it, there 635 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: without their two starting corn is, then they're starting. Nickel 636 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: went down and then their backup corner went down. I 637 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,399 Speaker 1: mean pretty soon you're the corners across the board were 638 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: Luke Barko undrafted free agent but not rookie for agent, 639 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: haven't played it all this year. Josiah Scott at nicol 640 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: drafted had not played played four snaps. I think he 641 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: played four snaps, that's correct. And then and then Trey 642 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: Herndon that was your that was your starting and then 643 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: by the way, you're you're on your third safety with 644 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: Andrew Winger got out there, who got beat for the touchdown. So, 645 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: I mean it's tough, and then you and then you 646 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: don't have any real pass rush in front of him. 647 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: That's that's I give him credit for what they hung 648 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 1: in there and did. Okay, of the guys who started 649 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: on Sunday, how many will be starting in the same 650 00:36:51,640 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 1: spot in two thousand and one? Well, Josh Allen two? Four? Look, 651 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Maybe Hamilton's, Hamilton's, Hamilton's that's two Showbert, Miles 652 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 1: Jack will start and Daniel Thomas and that's six maybe maybe, 653 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 1: maybe maybe how many definite Josh Allen three, Hamilton's and 654 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 1: Miles Jack and Miles Jack. They're they're Hamilton's and Allen 655 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: and Miles Jack going down. That's it. That's the only definite. 656 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: But they're paying showbird. Sometimes you gotta admit your mistake. 657 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't go down. I wouldn't go down for you yet. Okay, 658 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: what are you gonna wait to have the season to 659 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 1: do it? I'm not awful, He's not awful good, but 660 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 1: he ain't worth that money that much as a given 661 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 1: positive conversation. Tony has had enough of this conversation. I think, Pete, yeah, 662 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: I mean, what what do you always say? I I 663 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: mean this question better and I told you what. I 664 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: think he's better. You're better with him at starting at Mike? 665 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: Is it moves Miles jack Um? Well, are you telling me? 666 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 1: Is he an All Pro? Is he a Pro Bowl 667 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 1: level mic linebacker? No? Pro Bowl? Say it again, Pete, 668 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 1: he's been to the Pro Bowl. I'm you're asking me 669 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: if he's playing at that level. I don't think he is. 670 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: How about alright, so three guys are definite from the 671 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: guys who started on Sundays, there's only three definites going in. 672 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 1: I think that's right. I mean, yeah, definite. I mean 673 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna end up being five or six, 674 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: but definite, like start like you like, these guys are 675 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: starting caliber player. Okay, will Chase On be a starter? 676 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Well that's a miss. Then if 677 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: he's not starting, a miss because I I don't think 678 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 1: you can start him and Josh Allen, I think you 679 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: need a bigger defensive end. I was gonna say, what 680 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: kind of scheme are they running? Is it gonna be 681 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 1: a totally different What if they come in? What if 682 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,879 Speaker 1: the guy who comes in and puts three guys down 683 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: and two guys on the edge standing up, then you 684 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: can start both of them. Did anybody start Yeah? Right, 685 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 1: I'm saying I'm just thinking the current four three scheme. Yeah, 686 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: and which almost goes back to the pick of them. 687 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 1: If you picked him thinking you're going to fit him 688 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: into this defense, it was almost like why, I mean, 689 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 1: unless you felt like he was an elite he had 690 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: a chance to be an elite pass rusher, and then 691 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 1: you have two pass rushers you're nickel on you know, 692 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 1: six percent at the time, then it's worthwhile. I don't 693 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,879 Speaker 1: see anything. I'm not saying he can't be. I haven't 694 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 1: seen anything that tells me an elite pass pressure. He 695 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: made a made a tackle yesterday though, that was yeah, 696 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: I hope so you played defense, you're supposed to make tackles. Well, 697 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: I'm just saying he made it that and I'm not 698 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: I'm not to get credit with two tackle Did he 699 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 1: get credit for two pressures too? One he had a 700 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 1: loop in on the interior where he almost hit Roethlisberger 701 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 1: in the middle mid section, Remember that one he came 702 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: around and looped inside. He made two official tackles, had 703 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: one tackle for loss, did not get any credit for 704 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: quarterback hits. I'll say that, I don't know about it was. 705 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 1: It was. He was right there at the when we 706 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 1: released it. So it was. But again, he's not lining 707 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,800 Speaker 1: up a winning against anybody. Got a stun him inside. 708 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 1: You know used to do that really well, Vic Beasley, 709 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: I mean what happened to m I'm just not I'm 710 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 1: not ready to kill him. You, I'm not ready to 711 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: bury him and saying he's not ready to bury him either, 712 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: I'm just asking you, do you think he's gonna be 713 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: a starter next year in the current system? No, I 714 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: don't o good now, Rembre in the second go ahead, 715 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 1: Tony my bed because in a four three I'm not 716 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: gonna start him and Josh Allen. I need a bigger 717 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: end line up on the tightendside we can hold the point. 718 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 1: I don't think he can hold the point. M fair enough, 719 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 1: Caleb and Chason out of LSU overall pick couple of 720 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: tackles yesterday eleven for the season. Has a sacked this year, 721 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: but that just hasn't been on the field a lot, 722 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,800 Speaker 1: uh this year. Let's see yesterday. What were his numbers? Yesterday? 723 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: Chason had forty six snaps yesterday. Remember Josh, he old 724 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: Josh Allen got hurt in the second quarter, that's why. 725 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 1: But he played a lot yesterday though, and and the 726 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 1: production wasn't there. Hey, look, if there's no other way 727 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: to sum it up other than the fact that he's 728 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: been a disappointment so far this year, well, I mean, 729 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 1: let me look at it, right, I mean, you look 730 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: at it right now. You're not getting a ton of 731 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,839 Speaker 1: production out of it. Your top your three, your first 732 00:41:53,880 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: three DERAFT picks, Anderson, Chason and do my Yeah, two 733 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 1: of them are Yeah, that's right. I mean, I mean, 734 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 1: injuries happened, so I'm not I mean that doesn't mean 735 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: they can't they're not good players, we can't play it. 736 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: Just as you sit here today, you're not getting production 737 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,760 Speaker 1: out So you're the best production out of the rookie 738 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: is clearly the undrafted running back, and then after that 739 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: it's got to be who Yeah, and then the one 740 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 1: after that would have been, um, probably Claybrooks or Thomas Thomas. Yeah. Now, 741 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: Thomas Isabks has been really good on special teams, right, 742 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,759 Speaker 1: but remember that's what he was drafted for. He was 743 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 1: going to be a return specialist, right. He wasn't supposed 744 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 1: to be on the field on defense. Yeah, he's done 745 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 1: a good job too. He's a good gunner. I mean, 746 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: he's a good football player. I mean I think he 747 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: has a future in the league as a special teams 748 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 1: guy in you know, a backup corner for sure. Right, 749 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: I think we've lost Pete. He's frozen on our screen, 750 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 1: which is the best face he's had all day, Tony. 751 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 1: So let's take a time. It's it's not a very 752 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 1: it's not a very becoming picture that he's frozen. 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I mean, you know, 819 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 1: there's not not much more we can ask from him. 820 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 1: You know, he's a bright spot obviously. Um, you know, 821 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 1: it does well. I just I just feel bad that 822 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 1: we can't, you know, get a lead and get him 823 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,760 Speaker 1: more carries, and you know, I think it's a production 824 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 1: would be even higher, you know, but you know, like 825 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 1: you said, we just gotta keep it, you know, keep 826 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 1: people off and and at times, you know, just do 827 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 1: you know, continue a good job and do a good 828 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,719 Speaker 1: job on him. I mean, he's a he's obviously a 829 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 1: good football player for US. Head coach Doug Moron after 830 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:46,839 Speaker 1: the game yesterday discussing James Robinson, Jaguars running back, Welcome Back, 831 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,320 Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour, j P Shadrick, Pete Frisco, Tony Psell 832 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,439 Speaker 1: will be back with us at the top of the hour. 833 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 1: So Pete, it's you and I. It's gonna be the 834 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,879 Speaker 1: best segment of the show. Of course, every time he leaves, 835 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 1: it's always the best segment of the show. Come on, 836 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,440 Speaker 1: how many shows have we done without him? When he's 837 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,279 Speaker 1: been in Europe, they went, the ratings went through the roof. 838 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 1: I mean they are to this day, there's not a 839 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 1: higher rating than those shows. I mean, those are ones 840 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,239 Speaker 1: they put in the Hall of fame. They really are. Um, 841 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 1: so James Robinson, this guy continues, Yeah, it's you know what, Jp, 842 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 1: it's amazing that he's, like Doug said, you're not capable 843 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 1: of seeing him play with the lead because he's been phenomenal. 844 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 1: I mean I always say it. He doesn't let anybody 845 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:37,360 Speaker 1: get square contact on him. He's always cutting and bobbing 846 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,239 Speaker 1: and weaving and and it's hard to get square hits 847 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 1: on him. Fits through tight little holes and pops out. 848 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,279 Speaker 1: He's what a running back should be. Um. You know, 849 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 1: maybe he lacks the top end speed, which is okay, 850 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,799 Speaker 1: you don't have the explosive runs from a guy like him, 851 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 1: but he is a tough guy, grinder and again Emmitt 852 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 1: Smith style runner. You know where Emmitt Smith never let 853 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 1: people get good shots on him, and yet he's still 854 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 1: put up a bunch of numbers. He's an oppressive kid. 855 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 1: He's been their best offensive player. I don't think there's 856 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 1: any question about that. Uh. And he is a building 857 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,239 Speaker 1: block and a foundation for this team. I'd have to 858 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 1: go dig a little bit, obviously, but I'm curious how 859 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:21,239 Speaker 1: many rushing attempts are for losses or no gain for 860 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,719 Speaker 1: him this year. I bet the vast majority are for 861 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 1: positive yardage. Yeah. He and even at times when there's penetration, 862 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 1: he has a way of finding himself to a lot 863 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 1: of scrimmage and and that's a sign of a good 864 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:39,800 Speaker 1: running back. Um. He is everything that Leonar four Net wasn't. 865 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 1: Leonar fourn Nett had the straight line speed when he 866 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:44,839 Speaker 1: got through the whole, but he didn't make anybody mess 867 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 1: if there was penetration in the back, but he was 868 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 1: going down. If there was a guy in front of him, 869 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna try and run him over. He wasn't making 870 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 1: anybody miss. This kid makes people miss. He just doesn't 871 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 1: have the top end speed. But he's a good back 872 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,840 Speaker 1: and he's a good football player. To your point of 873 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,239 Speaker 1: he's not a game breaker. He's not gonna break that 874 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 1: forty sixty yard touchdown run um. Talking to Terry Robiscue 875 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, the running backs coach has been 876 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 1: in the league for forever and and used that used 877 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 1: that bow Jackson and Marcus Allen in his backfield as 878 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,800 Speaker 1: an assistant back in the old days. He said to 879 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 1: James earlier this year, you know, get us what we 880 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,279 Speaker 1: need as a team, and that's four yards and then 881 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 1: you can get what you want after that. So I 882 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,479 Speaker 1: think early in the season he might have been worried 883 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 1: about breaking out and getting an extra ten yards something 884 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,719 Speaker 1: like that. But as the season has gone on, you 885 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 1: see him focusing on what the blocking is following the 886 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,279 Speaker 1: play and that helps the offensive line out as well 887 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,239 Speaker 1: when you follow what is what is drawn up for 888 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 1: you Andy, And he's a pretty good receiver too. Out 889 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 1: of the background. He can catch the ball. He saw 890 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,919 Speaker 1: that yesterday, had a good catch. I think eventually they'll 891 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 1: use the more in the screen game as they get 892 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,839 Speaker 1: better at that kind of thing. But right now, he's 893 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,719 Speaker 1: a good running back. Now he's not Fred Taylor, Maurice Jones, 894 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 1: Drew we can that role right now. But he's a 895 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 1: good back. And if you asked me if I could 896 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 1: have him or Leonard for Nett right now to run 897 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,759 Speaker 1: behind my offensive line, I'm taking Robinson right I mean, 898 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 1: we'll see Leonard tonight money football. But um, you don't 899 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,279 Speaker 1: do anything. Don't do anything. He doesn't do anything down there, No, 900 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,880 Speaker 1: don't do anything. I mean, he did some things in Jacksonville, 901 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,600 Speaker 1: but a lot of that was out of necessity because 902 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,360 Speaker 1: he got the ball and they were behind, you know, 903 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 1: the passing yard and he got last year Catches was behind. 904 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 1: But no, look, they took they took a lot of 905 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 1: heat for that decision right when it happened, right, I mean, 906 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,080 Speaker 1: that's one JP. That's one decision that they deserve to 907 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,239 Speaker 1: get credit for because you know, when they sat for 908 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 1: net packing, they knew they had Robinson and you know, 909 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,040 Speaker 1: you started hearing good things about him, and we talked 910 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,959 Speaker 1: about it on the show and people when I told people, 911 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 1: like on the air in my place and I said 912 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:56,879 Speaker 1: it in the office, they said who, But I said, 913 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 1: you watch, I've heard nothing but good things about this. 914 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 1: So they made the right decision. And he's a good kid. 915 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 1: He's a he's a great character kid. From everything I 916 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 1: hear a little quiet um, you know that, which you 917 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,760 Speaker 1: know guys are when they're young and they're in rookies. 918 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,320 Speaker 1: But he's a good back and they have that's a 919 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,759 Speaker 1: building block. There's one. I think DJ sharks too. You know, 920 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,920 Speaker 1: I think, you know, offensive line wise, you'd like to 921 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,600 Speaker 1: think John Taylor is, but I don't think he's played 922 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 1: that well this year. But he should be, uh you know, 923 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,839 Speaker 1: should not will be. I think maybe if he stays healthy. Right, 924 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:38,800 Speaker 1: that's a guy like that, right and so, and I 925 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,279 Speaker 1: think he bring Keelan coleback as the third receiver. But 926 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,839 Speaker 1: that group is coming back now. How they play out 927 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,680 Speaker 1: the offensive line is to be determined. Well, Cann'll be 928 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 1: back because Cand's contract and kid's actually play A J 929 00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,719 Speaker 1: can give him credit. He's played pretty well this year. 930 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 1: The rest of those guys, I think it's up in 931 00:52:55,120 --> 00:53:00,439 Speaker 1: the air. Linder, Norwell, damn Robinson, and Robinson hasn't played 932 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 1: himself into a big time contract. I don't think Tony 933 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:08,359 Speaker 1: might disagree with me, but I'd be careful with that one, right, 934 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,880 Speaker 1: I mean, if you there's a better option out there too, 935 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 1: maybe you go get the better option. Well, can you 936 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,799 Speaker 1: can you? I still don't think you're gonna be able 937 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,920 Speaker 1: to pay Lender and Robinson, so one of them had 938 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,399 Speaker 1: one of them has to go, all right, So are 939 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:26,800 Speaker 1: you more comfortable paying Lender paying Robinson for me? I 940 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,799 Speaker 1: think I'm uncomfortable paying Lender. I'm more comfortable paying neither 941 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 1: of them, to be honest with none of them start over. No, 942 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,239 Speaker 1: I would Well, I mean, you drafted Bart do you 943 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,319 Speaker 1: think he's going to be a player, So he could 944 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:41,600 Speaker 1: be in one of the guards and you might send 945 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 1: Norwell packing, make him me the left guard. Uh, and 946 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 1: then you know you can find some guys that are 947 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 1: they have money to spend. Let's not forget about that. 948 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,360 Speaker 1: There's guys you can find on the on the street. 949 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:56,399 Speaker 1: Let's just say in the draft they had We're gonna 950 00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:02,759 Speaker 1: talk draft later, but fields and the offensive lineman down there. 951 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:07,279 Speaker 1: That when they picked the Ramspeck left tackle, and and 952 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 1: they sign a tight end and free agency, is that 953 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 1: a good offense? Well, it depends on what kind of 954 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,480 Speaker 1: tight end you're getting, right. I mean, if you're gonna 955 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 1: get a free agency tight end, you think he's gonna 956 00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:25,120 Speaker 1: go down catches starting left tackle at twenty two or 957 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 1: whatever it is now, right, which would be a rookie tackle. 958 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,439 Speaker 1: But you know we've seen those guys step in and play. 959 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,200 Speaker 1: Beckton's played really well. He was a high pick though, Um, 960 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,719 Speaker 1: I think you'd have confidence at that point, right, I mean, 961 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,799 Speaker 1: new guy your comfortable with left tackle, your offensive line, 962 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 1: and new guy you pick in the first round at 963 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,879 Speaker 1: left tackle, um BArch at left guard. It's a young 964 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,040 Speaker 1: left side though. How you bring Linda back at center 965 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,239 Speaker 1: to keep the group together, can and Taylor. Then you 966 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:55,760 Speaker 1: have fields, you drafted, you signed Hunter, Henry, you draft, 967 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,840 Speaker 1: and then you have the three healthy receivers together with Robinson. 968 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,600 Speaker 1: Is that is that a good? That's it's better than 969 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 1: what's going on right now. I'll say that what has 970 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,880 Speaker 1: really it has the potential to be, has the potential. 971 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,520 Speaker 1: I don't think opening day you can say, hey, we're good, 972 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,719 Speaker 1: it's built. You can't do that. They gotta go play 973 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 1: and get better together, you know, so I mean that, 974 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,520 Speaker 1: And and there are options in free agency as well 975 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 1: to spend money on. So there. Look, it's moving. You 976 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,759 Speaker 1: have the money, you have the draft picks, you have 977 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,480 Speaker 1: some building block. It's just this year. If you're a fan, 978 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,600 Speaker 1: I know you hate when I say this. You just 979 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:36,279 Speaker 1: gotta hope the Jets win one. And well, I mean 980 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,320 Speaker 1: that's the reality. Rather have Trevor Lawrence and Justin Field. 981 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,359 Speaker 1: And that's not anything against Justin Field, because I think 982 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,319 Speaker 1: he's gonna be a really good player too. This might 983 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,480 Speaker 1: be Burrow and Herbert. You'd be okay with either one 984 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,719 Speaker 1: of them. Right, One more quick thing here before we 985 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,719 Speaker 1: go away. Are you more comfortable paying a tight end 986 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,320 Speaker 1: in free agency or drafting a rookie tight end to 987 00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:00,480 Speaker 1: be the start or does it matter. I mean, I 988 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,239 Speaker 1: might be more comfortable paying a left tackle if I 989 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 1: got one, and and then drafting the rookie tight end. Yea. 990 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:11,080 Speaker 1: The problem with the tight ends nowadays, they're one dimensional 991 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,440 Speaker 1: in a lot of cases. I mean, like, Okay, the 992 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 1: kid at Penn State was going to be a first 993 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,160 Speaker 1: round pick, Briar muth I think that's his name. He's 994 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,279 Speaker 1: hurt now, and so how do you evaluate him? And 995 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,719 Speaker 1: he's a complete tight end. You have the Florida kid. 996 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,080 Speaker 1: He we know what he is. He's a pass cat. 997 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,359 Speaker 1: That's a that's a that's a Darren Waller. That's who 998 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 1: he is. When you say that's what he's gonna be 999 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,359 Speaker 1: like Darren Waller, and that's Do you see what Darren 1000 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 1: Waller does? He creates mismatch problems for a defense. So 1001 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,520 Speaker 1: that's another thing to keep an eye on. Got plenty 1002 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,799 Speaker 1: of time to discuss that ahead, but it's an interesting thought. 1003 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,279 Speaker 1: Let's move in to the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour. 1004 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,239 Speaker 1: We'll see if Posselli's back with us. If not, the 1005 00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:56,839 Speaker 1: Great Radio will continue with Pete and I. Second hour 1006 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,839 Speaker 1: coming up. 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I don't think I'll have an answer 1073 01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,120 Speaker 1: on Monday, you know when I get asked a question. 1074 01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 1: But you know, I think, as um, you know, the 1075 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,400 Speaker 1: week gold we'll take a look and see what we 1076 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,760 Speaker 1: can do. What's the best thing for our team? That 1077 01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:55,480 Speaker 1: coach Doug Marone after the game yesterday discussing the quarterback situation. 1078 01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,440 Speaker 1: Welcome into the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour. The 1079 01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 1: day after a Jaguars law to the Pittsburgh Steelers in 1080 01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:06,280 Speaker 1: Week eleven three. The final score j P Shadrick, Pete Prisco, 1081 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,360 Speaker 1: Tony Vaselli. Glad you're along with us today, as the 1082 01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:14,800 Speaker 1: Jags have extended their losing skid to nine straight games. 1083 01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:19,920 Speaker 1: The offense struggled Jake Luton through four interceptions and That 1084 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,800 Speaker 1: answer from Doug Moron was to a question about whether 1085 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,840 Speaker 1: he thought about putting Mike Lennan into the game. He 1086 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:27,960 Speaker 1: said he thought about it, but decided to stick with 1087 01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:31,400 Speaker 1: Luton in the game. Moving forward, still no decision as 1088 01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,280 Speaker 1: of today when Doug Moron spoke at the quarterback spot. 1089 01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,400 Speaker 1: Moving ahead, they'll see how Garden Mintshew progresses in practice 1090 01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,520 Speaker 1: this week. The coaching staff wants to see him throw 1091 01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,280 Speaker 1: a little bit more and then they'll figure things out. 1092 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:46,360 Speaker 1: Possibly on Wednesday. The defense held their own for a bit. 1093 01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,280 Speaker 1: The Steelers though, just to have all those weapons everywhere 1094 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:53,000 Speaker 1: on The Jaguars are walking wounded and in some cases 1095 01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:57,080 Speaker 1: not walking. Unfortunately. It is a the tough sled yesterday 1096 01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,440 Speaker 1: in the athletic training department in the Manta the staff 1097 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:01,800 Speaker 1: as well. A lot going on in the game. A 1098 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,560 Speaker 1: lot of guys left the game to not come back, 1099 01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,080 Speaker 1: and some major players could be out for a little while, 1100 01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:10,840 Speaker 1: including Josh Allen on the defensive line on deck. It 1101 01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:14,160 Speaker 1: doesn't get easier. The seven and three Cleveland Browns come 1102 01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,520 Speaker 1: to town this week in week number twelve, and they're 1103 01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,479 Speaker 1: fighting for a playoff spot. You know they'll be locked 1104 01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,720 Speaker 1: and loaded. Hey, Tony's back with us that you missed 1105 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,360 Speaker 1: minutes was the best radio we've had in a long 1106 01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,160 Speaker 1: The ratings just went right through the roof when you left. 1107 01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,000 Speaker 1: I heard it as I was on the phone taking 1108 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:38,080 Speaker 1: care of something. I heard bab babbling or along. No, 1109 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,640 Speaker 1: I got you know how they nowadays you can get 1110 01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:45,120 Speaker 1: ratings metered like by fifteen minutes segments. That was their 1111 01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,000 Speaker 1: highest rated fifteen minutes of the year so far. Yeah, 1112 01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,320 Speaker 1: I heard your I heard your hunter, Henry take not 1113 01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:55,280 Speaker 1: just town Henry, just whatever. They need help. And you 1114 01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:59,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't pay either Linda or you cut you you you 1115 01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,600 Speaker 1: move on from under? And Cam? I might he start over, 1116 01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:07,840 Speaker 1: is what he said. Yep, Tony, I might play. I 1117 01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,600 Speaker 1: play Shatley at center if I had to, and I 1118 01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,600 Speaker 1: get a left pack or a draft one play Bart 1119 01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:15,440 Speaker 1: and left. I mean yes, I would probably. To be 1120 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,520 Speaker 1: honest with you, I think they're both too expensive. They'd 1121 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,840 Speaker 1: be both too expensive for what they are. What what 1122 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:25,160 Speaker 1: would make what number would make Cam too expensive? Well? 1123 01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:26,560 Speaker 1: What do you think he's gonna ask for? I mean 1124 01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,400 Speaker 1: an unrestricted free agent left tackle? After seeing what these 1125 01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,000 Speaker 1: guys have been getting, what bout ther get? And he 1126 01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,880 Speaker 1: hasn't Bogard, But what do you get? Or twenty three? Here? 1127 01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,480 Speaker 1: Just drop him down a little bit. What do you 1128 01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,920 Speaker 1: think he's gonna ask for? I didn't say what he's 1129 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:46,640 Speaker 1: gonna ask for? What would you want? What I pay him? Yeah? Twelve? 1130 01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:56,160 Speaker 1: I was gonna say fourteen. No, but you're paying for 1131 01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,800 Speaker 1: What are you paying for, Tony? What? What do you 1132 01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,480 Speaker 1: getting for fourteen million dollars a year? I mean, I 1133 01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:08,000 Speaker 1: think you're getting a solid starters, So you're overbey for 1134 01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,760 Speaker 1: a vilid starter. No, I mean, but I mean left 1135 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:16,160 Speaker 1: tackles start left tackles a league, get intended fourteen? All right, 1136 01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,160 Speaker 1: unless unless, unless you unless you go get him, you know, 1137 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:25,360 Speaker 1: draft him. Do you think he's better than Villineueva? Yes, 1138 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,800 Speaker 1: you do? Yeah, I do. I don't know about that. 1139 01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:36,439 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, people watch the tape. He's a thousand times 1140 01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,880 Speaker 1: better run blocker than he's a better Villa, can't bend 1141 01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:44,520 Speaker 1: his knees, and he's a better pass walker, Ben says Villaneuva. 1142 01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:46,760 Speaker 1: Ben gets rid of it faster than any quarterback in 1143 01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:48,400 Speaker 1: the league, and he moves in the pocket as well 1144 01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:52,040 Speaker 1: as anybody. Yes, he's better than villain Aueva. It's not okay, 1145 01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:53,560 Speaker 1: but he's not Okay, then we can go around the 1146 01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,280 Speaker 1: league and find left tackles. He's not better that what 1147 01:04:56,360 --> 01:05:00,320 Speaker 1: are they paying Villinueva. I'm gonna look, okay, is he's 1148 01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:05,400 Speaker 1: not better than Eric Fisher and he's not good? Do 1149 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,040 Speaker 1: you agree with that? He's a better run blocker eric Fisher? 1150 01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:11,760 Speaker 1: But he's he's not as um I mean I think 1151 01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:17,240 Speaker 1: he's he's on Eric Fisher's calib I mean they're like, 1152 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:21,280 Speaker 1: you're right, they probably neither one of them are that good? Okay, 1153 01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,080 Speaker 1: you know what building a wave it gets per year? 1154 01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:33,200 Speaker 1: He gotta he makes six million dollars a year and 1155 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,760 Speaker 1: he's an unrestricted free agent after the season. I mean, 1156 01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,000 Speaker 1: there's not that much. Would you pay billing a wave 1157 01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,120 Speaker 1: of six million? And game Momas in four d? Come on? 1158 01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:51,000 Speaker 1: Don't yeah, I mean, Pete, here's the other thing you 1159 01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,760 Speaker 1: can't do any now. Build a wave is older. Yeah, 1160 01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,360 Speaker 1: he's much older. Here's you can't do. You just can't 1161 01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,640 Speaker 1: keep on getting rid of guys. You have to build somewhere. 1162 01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:03,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it's I'll give you a perfect a million, 1163 01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:08,760 Speaker 1: a million. We know what? Okay? What is no? No, 1164 01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:12,280 Speaker 1: you're missing my point. This is exactly whoever the gym 1165 01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:16,360 Speaker 1: needs to be thinking. What's Eric Fisher getting paid from 1166 01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:20,160 Speaker 1: Pick though? Too, I don't care it's a second contract. 1167 01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:22,120 Speaker 1: What is he getting paid? I'll tell you right now. 1168 01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:26,200 Speaker 1: We'll see if you're over a little to it. He's 1169 01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:31,600 Speaker 1: getting twelve a year. Okay. So I said twelve, I said, Tony, 1170 01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:35,040 Speaker 1: what every every player in the league on them? You 1171 01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,440 Speaker 1: know you said ten? First of all? I swelled and 1172 01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:44,560 Speaker 1: I said twelve. You said fourteen. Tony said fourteen. I 1173 01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:49,720 Speaker 1: said twelve. No, I did not say fourteen fourteen. I 1174 01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,240 Speaker 1: said twelve to fourteen. I gave you a range. I 1175 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:57,160 Speaker 1: said twelve. We can pull the tape up at Jenny game, 1176 01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,720 Speaker 1: okay if whatever. By the way, that deal was signed 1177 01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:02,720 Speaker 1: two or three years ago. I think he's an equal 1178 01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,800 Speaker 1: quest like and everyone killed the Chiefs when they signed 1179 01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:07,280 Speaker 1: him and paid him that much money to or three 1180 01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,000 Speaker 1: years ago. Here's the reality is, unless you have someone 1181 01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:12,040 Speaker 1: better to replace him with, you just keep on going 1182 01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:15,320 Speaker 1: backwards and spinning and you go nowhere. So okay, so 1183 01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:18,440 Speaker 1: you can't pay would you agree that you're probably not 1184 01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:22,760 Speaker 1: gonna pay keep lender and pay Camp. I don't think 1185 01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:26,600 Speaker 1: you can pay lender Norwell and Camp. Okay, well, let's 1186 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,760 Speaker 1: think doorble out of the equation because the ideal situation 1187 01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,720 Speaker 1: barches right in to play left card, you play left card. 1188 01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,439 Speaker 1: True right, you drafted him, you think you can play, 1189 01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:39,320 Speaker 1: you put him a left card. I haven't. I mean, 1190 01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:42,000 Speaker 1: I haven't what I saw in the two games. I'm 1191 01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:46,640 Speaker 1: not doing that. But it's a whole year of everything. Great, 1192 01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,480 Speaker 1: am I gonna bet everything going into the uh go 1193 01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,520 Speaker 1: into the season with what I've seen so far. Now 1194 01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:55,520 Speaker 1: I haven't seen practice. I haven't seen what this guy 1195 01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:59,880 Speaker 1: doesn't Camp. I mean, we weren't therapy. It's hard, but 1196 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:04,320 Speaker 1: that's an ideal scenario. Okay, but okay, but you pay 1197 01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:08,400 Speaker 1: everybody and bring it me. I did not say to 1198 01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:12,720 Speaker 1: pay everybody. You're not, so what would you do? What 1199 01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:19,519 Speaker 1: would I do? Um one? I I My biggest concern, 1200 01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:21,519 Speaker 1: Pete is if I'm gonna go draft a young quarterback, 1201 01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:25,880 Speaker 1: I want to protect him. And even if for I mean, 1202 01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,680 Speaker 1: you got to protect him. I get that, But you 1203 01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:34,720 Speaker 1: are you? Is this line good enough to protect? I 1204 01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:36,840 Speaker 1: mean that's a fair that. That's the other side, is it? 1205 01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:38,880 Speaker 1: I mean, what do you get? Are you getting what 1206 01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:42,599 Speaker 1: you're paying for that's a fair. That's a fair. Okay, 1207 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,320 Speaker 1: So let's let's just say you can't. There's no way 1208 01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:49,800 Speaker 1: you can pay. You can't pay you can and nor 1209 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:54,360 Speaker 1: would you. Why would you? I agree? So one of 1210 01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:57,800 Speaker 1: them or two of them have to go. You're probably right. 1211 01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:00,400 Speaker 1: So then which one do you pick? You picked the 1212 01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,400 Speaker 1: young guy and let the two old guys go. I mean, 1213 01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:07,479 Speaker 1: I've always maybe overvalued Cam because I think he really 1214 01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,960 Speaker 1: has ability and talent and everything else, but the consistency 1215 01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,560 Speaker 1: is just not there. And if you look at it, 1216 01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:17,200 Speaker 1: you know his rookie year was his rookie year up 1217 01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:20,200 Speaker 1: and down, but that's a rookie Um. He came back 1218 01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,439 Speaker 1: before he got hurt. He was not playing good, did 1219 01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,240 Speaker 1: not have a good camp, good three season or good start. 1220 01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:31,040 Speaker 1: Gets hurt Um early and then really last year never 1221 01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,000 Speaker 1: looked good at all last year as well. Now came 1222 01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:36,880 Speaker 1: back this year in a contract year, in great shape 1223 01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:41,200 Speaker 1: and like ready to go. Started well. Um has had 1224 01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:43,160 Speaker 1: the last couple has been tough weeks, but for the 1225 01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,320 Speaker 1: most part has played well this year until the last 1226 01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,960 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Um. But when you worry about with 1227 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,840 Speaker 1: the guy like that Pete, didn't you do it because 1228 01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:54,760 Speaker 1: it was his contract year. And if this is a 1229 01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:57,840 Speaker 1: contract year and this is the best you're gonna get, 1230 01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? If if he went into 1231 01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:03,840 Speaker 1: the year as a contract year, got in great shape, 1232 01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:05,920 Speaker 1: was ready to go, I'm gonna go show people I'm 1233 01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,000 Speaker 1: worth all this money, and this is the best you're 1234 01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:13,760 Speaker 1: gonna get. That's concerning. Yeah, well, I mean what does 1235 01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:18,040 Speaker 1: he get paid? And he's an unrestricted free agent, that's 1236 01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,720 Speaker 1: a good question. I mean, is he gonna get He 1237 01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,000 Speaker 1: probably get. He's not coming close to that box the 1238 01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,200 Speaker 1: r mundy. No, no, no, no, he's not that So 1239 01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:29,479 Speaker 1: so what's he get? I say, gets twelve? I bet 1240 01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:32,639 Speaker 1: you gets more than that market peak. Look around the NFL. 1241 01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,200 Speaker 1: Look at the offensive linemen. I know they're bad. There's 1242 01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:39,439 Speaker 1: some bad lineman in this league. I mean, okay, is 1243 01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,840 Speaker 1: he better than Donovan Smith in Pampa? Probably? I don't 1244 01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:47,719 Speaker 1: think so. No, Or it's close, it's closed though, Yeah, okay, 1245 01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:55,080 Speaker 1: the Rams started, Rams started Whitworth. Whitworth. Wentworth is not 1246 01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,560 Speaker 1: his athletic. He's just a crafty dude. He's like not 1247 01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:02,000 Speaker 1: Wentworth better. He is better. Yeah, he's hurt now, but 1248 01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:05,840 Speaker 1: he's better. But there are he's not better. There's certain 1249 01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:07,920 Speaker 1: there's a lot of veteran starting now that aren't gonna 1250 01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:09,840 Speaker 1: be around either, so maybe there will be a market 1251 01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:14,519 Speaker 1: work like Jason Peters. Um, I mean he's he was 1252 01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:18,559 Speaker 1: terrible yesterday. Yeah, he's struggling and his body's breaking down. 1253 01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:24,200 Speaker 1: He was a great player down. Um, But you have 1254 01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:26,360 Speaker 1: big to your point, and this is where you like, 1255 01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:29,320 Speaker 1: you have big decisions. I'm not paying him like a 1256 01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,599 Speaker 1: franchise left tackle because I haven't seen that this year. 1257 01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:36,840 Speaker 1: But I don't think putting Let's call it between ten 1258 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:40,680 Speaker 1: and fifteen million. Just make that the range in your 1259 01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:45,760 Speaker 1: left tackle right could you know above average plays out 1260 01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,280 Speaker 1: of the realm with it? Where the cap and how 1261 01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:53,920 Speaker 1: guys are getting paid right now? Okay, so twelve million 1262 01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:59,080 Speaker 1: is fair. I don't think he takes it nole thin. 1263 01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:00,840 Speaker 1: He goes. He goes to agency to see if you 1264 01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:04,960 Speaker 1: get more. Here's another question, speaking of free agency. Are 1265 01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,400 Speaker 1: you sure you can attract the free agent you want 1266 01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,479 Speaker 1: at that position on the right money. You'll try. You 1267 01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,960 Speaker 1: can get him anywhere. Here's the thing, You're not gonna 1268 01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:17,160 Speaker 1: go fund. There's no there's no franchise left tackles coming up. 1269 01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:20,320 Speaker 1: In free agency. Come on, guys, well no, but but 1270 01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:23,000 Speaker 1: you got a draft one then okay, but then Pete, 1271 01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:25,000 Speaker 1: you also need to tie You also want to tight end. 1272 01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:28,439 Speaker 1: You also need a pass rusher. You also need uh 1273 01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:32,920 Speaker 1: she's probably a safety you also need. You know, but 1274 01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:37,760 Speaker 1: aren't you compounding your problems by over paying a guy 1275 01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:41,360 Speaker 1: just to fill the spot. I'm not saying over pay him. 1276 01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:44,960 Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. I'm not saying I wouldn't 1277 01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:48,760 Speaker 1: pay him sixteen seventeen eighteen, nowhere close to twenty million 1278 01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,360 Speaker 1: dollars a year. I wouldn't do it because I haven't 1279 01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:53,640 Speaker 1: seen that. Now, maybe in the last six games a year, 1280 01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,439 Speaker 1: he's just dominant and things look better, and possibly I'd 1281 01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:58,759 Speaker 1: still be worried because it's a one year sample size 1282 01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:01,120 Speaker 1: of this will be his best year's contract here. We've 1283 01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:06,599 Speaker 1: seen that story in the league before of how that works. Yeah, yeah, 1284 01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:08,880 Speaker 1: I just I think you've got to be concerned a 1285 01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:14,439 Speaker 1: little bit about him playing his best football this year 1286 01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,479 Speaker 1: and this is this is it, this is what you 1287 01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:23,839 Speaker 1: get and so but at the same time, I understand, 1288 01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:28,920 Speaker 1: I gotta someone has to play left tackle somebody, right, 1289 01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:31,240 Speaker 1: And you just saying, go draft a guy. Okay, I 1290 01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:35,000 Speaker 1: gotta draft a lot of guys, Tonny. I understand that. 1291 01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:39,240 Speaker 1: But you're also saying, let's just play on with him, 1292 01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:44,559 Speaker 1: just because I'm not saying that. I'm just smart when 1293 01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:47,599 Speaker 1: you're when you're building a team before you just start 1294 01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,360 Speaker 1: cutting guys because you're not happy and it's always they stink. 1295 01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:52,360 Speaker 1: You better have someone to replace him with because you 1296 01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:54,160 Speaker 1: have to line up with eleven guys on each side 1297 01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,120 Speaker 1: of the ball. Okay, I'll give you. I'll give you 1298 01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:58,960 Speaker 1: a guy that's gonna be a free agent and he's 1299 01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:03,280 Speaker 1: played really well as already Stunt before this year, Garrett 1300 01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:13,960 Speaker 1: Bold year. Okay, but he's still but he's still light 1301 01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:17,320 Speaker 1: in the rear end and gets pushed. I'm not playing. 1302 01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:22,040 Speaker 1: But if you put those two side by side, I 1303 01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:26,599 Speaker 1: bet your bowls gets more money, camp more physical. That's 1304 01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:28,519 Speaker 1: just that there aren't any guys on the market. You 1305 01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:32,800 Speaker 1: can't that's my point. I mean, then you're betting on 1306 01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:35,920 Speaker 1: the draft. Well, if that's the case, he's going to 1307 01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:37,400 Speaker 1: go in and say, you know what, I'm going to 1308 01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:39,200 Speaker 1: go test the market and see what I'm gonna get. 1309 01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,240 Speaker 1: And that I mean, but then you have to use 1310 01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:46,080 Speaker 1: your transition tagon. What is the A's probably what they 1311 01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:49,840 Speaker 1: that's probably what they will do, transition tagon. If you're 1312 01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:53,360 Speaker 1: losing me, get a draft pick, right, that's probably what 1313 01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:56,439 Speaker 1: they'll do. I mean, that's what I would do. Well, 1314 01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:58,639 Speaker 1: I just said, now you're copying me, that's what I said. 1315 01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:02,160 Speaker 1: I But but again, what's what's the top what's the 1316 01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,760 Speaker 1: top what's the top ten number for? Because it isn't 1317 01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:08,519 Speaker 1: transition tech the average in the top ten? Uh yeah, 1318 01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:14,880 Speaker 1: so what do you think that's the highest? What's what's 1319 01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:21,479 Speaker 1: the tent? The higher, that's for sure, I'll find in 1320 01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,720 Speaker 1: a second. But you know, if you add one in 1321 01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:28,040 Speaker 1: the draft and he stepped in and play right away, 1322 01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:30,680 Speaker 1: and the answer to that quite If you're at them 1323 01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:36,040 Speaker 1: in the first round, you can, okay, but Pete, if 1324 01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:39,240 Speaker 1: you the Rams are pretty good and so they're gonna 1325 01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:45,200 Speaker 1: be picking. Let's say between twenty two and right, you're 1326 01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,000 Speaker 1: not finding a guy that you're comfortable with. You're not 1327 01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:52,240 Speaker 1: finding back then, No, not finding Have you watched the 1328 01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:55,640 Speaker 1: Browns on tape yet this year? Yeah? What do you 1329 01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:59,360 Speaker 1: think it will? Think he's a good player, you would 1330 01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:01,240 Speaker 1: take that and put him in left? Would you take 1331 01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:05,519 Speaker 1: Wills over Robinson. I've only watched like one or two games. 1332 01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:08,360 Speaker 1: I haven't watched that. Let's be unfair. But like I'll 1333 01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,840 Speaker 1: tell you, I like the kid of Tampa, the right 1334 01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:14,960 Speaker 1: tackle they got. He's good. He's really good. The kid, 1335 01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,639 Speaker 1: the kid and the Giants is struggling, but he'll be Okay, Yeah, 1336 01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:20,519 Speaker 1: it's playing better the last couple. But these are all 1337 01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:23,080 Speaker 1: guys taken in the top half of the draft. They're 1338 01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:27,680 Speaker 1: not there. Well, the Vikings picked the tackle later in 1339 01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:31,080 Speaker 1: the first round. He's now starting at right guard. Okay, 1340 01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:37,000 Speaker 1: that doesn't That doesn't solve your left tackle. So basically, 1341 01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:39,120 Speaker 1: so what does solve your left tackle? The pay and 1342 01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:41,800 Speaker 1: paid m Robinson million dollars a year doesn't solve your 1343 01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:44,960 Speaker 1: left backing spot either. I'm sorry. It doesn't. Just builds it. 1344 01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:48,439 Speaker 1: We got a time Well, we gotta take a time out. 1345 01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,439 Speaker 1: We'll come back. We'll finish this conversation because this could 1346 01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:53,280 Speaker 1: go on for a while. 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Welcome 1410 01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:44,519 Speaker 1: back Jaguars Happy Hour on this Monday, the day after 1411 01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:48,679 Speaker 1: a loss to the Steelers. J P, Shadrick, Pete Prisco, 1412 01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:52,760 Speaker 1: Tony Vaselli. It's time now for our favorite segment each week, 1413 01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:55,560 Speaker 1: Social Questions. We put out the bat signal early in 1414 01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:58,600 Speaker 1: the day and here's what we've come up with on 1415 01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:06,360 Speaker 1: this fine Monday afternoons. Starting with question number one, Anthony 1416 01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:09,000 Speaker 1: Brown Jr. I am firmly in the camp of keeping 1417 01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,720 Speaker 1: Dave Caldwell and Doug Maron. I think coach Maron has 1418 01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:14,360 Speaker 1: done great this year. Also with their record, they would 1419 01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:16,599 Speaker 1: be able to coach the Senior Bowl, which would give 1420 01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,519 Speaker 1: them a leg up in the draft. I didn't see 1421 01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:24,639 Speaker 1: a question there, Pete. But yeah, look, I don't see 1422 01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:27,080 Speaker 1: that happening. I just don't. I don't. I don't think 1423 01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:30,160 Speaker 1: they're coming back one. How do you sell that to 1424 01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:32,080 Speaker 1: your fan base? I don't think you can. Come on, 1425 01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:36,439 Speaker 1: let's be honest about it. JP, There's no way. Yeah, 1426 01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:38,439 Speaker 1: I mean it's And as far as coaching the Senior Bowl, 1427 01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:41,519 Speaker 1: that's very helpful if you do coach a senior Bowl, 1428 01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:45,400 Speaker 1: if there is a Senior Bowl. We coached three in 1429 01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:50,479 Speaker 1: a row, Pete, I know, but it usually helpful. Three 1430 01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:55,360 Speaker 1: found guys in it? Three which ones? Which ones did 1431 01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:58,160 Speaker 1: they coach? They coached? Um would have been what fifteen 1432 01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:07,559 Speaker 1: sixteen fourteen fifteen sixteen? Yeah, yeah, should be helpful. I mean, 1433 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:09,640 Speaker 1: I mean, mobile is cool and all. I mean we 1434 01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,200 Speaker 1: were there for a few days in a week and 1435 01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:14,519 Speaker 1: all that stuff. I mean like mobile. But alright, let's 1436 01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:18,280 Speaker 1: move on social Number three. This is at CF Zeller's 1437 01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:21,519 Speaker 1: for what's the one quality you would look for above 1438 01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:27,160 Speaker 1: the rest for a head coach? Inspirational, spirited, offensive, guru coaching, 1439 01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:30,000 Speaker 1: three roots attitude, not at all trying to pile on 1440 01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:32,519 Speaker 1: Doug with the expectations that were set this year are 1441 01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:37,599 Speaker 1: what they are. Great show what do you think being 1442 01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:41,760 Speaker 1: able to things? For me, being able to lead men 1443 01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:46,000 Speaker 1: and delegate. And by that I mean if you hire 1444 01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:49,200 Speaker 1: good coaches, let them coach. If you believe in nothing 1445 01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:51,840 Speaker 1: them got those guys to hire them, let them coach. 1446 01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:58,520 Speaker 1: But you gotta be able to handle the big picture, clock, management, uh, discipline, 1447 01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,080 Speaker 1: all the the things that I think it takes to 1448 01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,479 Speaker 1: be a head coach. You don't have to be you 1449 01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:06,519 Speaker 1: don't have to be the guy making the game plan. 1450 01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:08,400 Speaker 1: You don't have to be the guy calling the play. 1451 01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:11,800 Speaker 1: And you see that a lot with some of the 1452 01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:14,360 Speaker 1: You know, Mike Tomlin handles the big picture, and I 1453 01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:16,799 Speaker 1: think he does a great job with it. Yeah, manage 1454 01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:19,000 Speaker 1: everybody and get the right people in place to do 1455 01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:22,160 Speaker 1: all that. And then you just know how to handle people. Yeah, 1456 01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:24,600 Speaker 1: you handle your people, You handle your coaches, You let 1457 01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,080 Speaker 1: your coaches coach, and you handle your players. You treat 1458 01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:30,080 Speaker 1: them with respect, you treat them like men. And but 1459 01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:32,439 Speaker 1: you also have to have a firm hand. You can't 1460 01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:35,639 Speaker 1: let what happened in Jacksonville in two thousand and seventeen 1461 01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:38,679 Speaker 1: and eighteen happen again. And if you have the right guy, 1462 01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:41,960 Speaker 1: he's not going to allow that to happen again. Our 1463 01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:47,320 Speaker 1: next question from at Waco Grina from down in Argentina. Hey, 1464 01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:50,160 Speaker 1: they're good afternoon. The JP Pete and Tony trio on 1465 01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:54,440 Speaker 1: Monday is amazing. Draft mode for Tony is best player available? 1466 01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:57,640 Speaker 1: But which are the most needed positions to draft and 1467 01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:04,000 Speaker 1: which ones can be addressed in free agency salutos best 1468 01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:08,960 Speaker 1: player available. You have to draft the quarterback at number two. 1469 01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:11,320 Speaker 1: If there are number two, they're taking just the field. 1470 01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:14,120 Speaker 1: If it's not, you know, if he's you have to 1471 01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:17,200 Speaker 1: that's that's a given. But I think this is one 1472 01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:20,320 Speaker 1: of those things, and Tony kind of nailed it. It's 1473 01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:22,400 Speaker 1: been a philosophy of mine for a long time. JP 1474 01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:27,920 Speaker 1: you draft around the quarterback. And I've always said this, 1475 01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:30,679 Speaker 1: it used to be a four pronged approach the draft, 1476 01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:34,280 Speaker 1: and you draft the quarterback. You draft the guy who 1477 01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:36,880 Speaker 1: can knock down the quarterback. You draft the guy who 1478 01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:39,439 Speaker 1: can keep that guy from knocking down the quarterback, which 1479 01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:43,960 Speaker 1: is your offensive lineman tackle preferably, you draft the guy 1480 01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:47,799 Speaker 1: who knocks the quarterback passes down, which is the wide receiver. 1481 01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:50,519 Speaker 1: And now the way the game is played, you have 1482 01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:52,599 Speaker 1: to add a fifth to that, and that's the big 1483 01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:56,040 Speaker 1: play wide receiver. It's become a five pronged approach to 1484 01:24:56,160 --> 01:25:00,120 Speaker 1: winning and drafting. And if you fill those spots and 1485 01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:03,280 Speaker 1: they're all good players, probably gonna have a pretty done 1486 01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:06,080 Speaker 1: good team. That your hand was right in the camera 1487 01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:11,080 Speaker 1: there for those watching on the video. Okay, I mean, right, Yeah, 1488 01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:15,200 Speaker 1: if you have those five players, you have a star 1489 01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:20,439 Speaker 1: pass rusher, a star quarterback, a really quality left tackle, 1490 01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:23,519 Speaker 1: a corner who could play man coverage and lockdown one 1491 01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:26,760 Speaker 1: side of the field, and a big play receiver, your 1492 01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:28,960 Speaker 1: team is probably gonna be pretty good. Haven't they done 1493 01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,000 Speaker 1: that around here? Last few years? They thought they did, 1494 01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:32,920 Speaker 1: They just didn't pick the right guys or those guys 1495 01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:38,320 Speaker 1: are now on other teams. Think about well, okay, the quarterbacks, 1496 01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:43,760 Speaker 1: they flopped major quarterback drafts slopped them all left, which flop, 1497 01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:49,599 Speaker 1: never flop. Right, there's your over, so you're over at 1498 01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:56,120 Speaker 1: that position. Pass rusher, Dante Fowler fop uh, Josh Allen 1499 01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:59,599 Speaker 1: good to be determined how good he can be. Chason 1500 01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:03,800 Speaker 1: is nothing. Um so that's you know. And Gockway was 1501 01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:06,639 Speaker 1: a hit sort of but but he was the third 1502 01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:11,120 Speaker 1: round right, yeah, sorry, we're talking about your your now 1503 01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:13,479 Speaker 1: that Tony's back. Your approach. You talk about being good 1504 01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:14,920 Speaker 1: on the line and being good on the quarterback. And 1505 01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:17,400 Speaker 1: I've always had the four proNT approach. The drafting is 1506 01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:20,640 Speaker 1: now a five proNT approach. You get the quarterback, the 1507 01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:22,839 Speaker 1: guy who knocks the quarterback down, the guy who protects 1508 01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:24,840 Speaker 1: the quarterback and keeps those guys from knocking them down. 1509 01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:27,800 Speaker 1: And the guy who knocks the quarterbacks passes down on 1510 01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:30,120 Speaker 1: the outside of the corner. If you get those four 1511 01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:31,920 Speaker 1: and I've added the big play receiver because of the 1512 01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:34,160 Speaker 1: way the game is played now, but you get those five, 1513 01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:37,000 Speaker 1: the team is probably gonna be pretty good. So I 1514 01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,360 Speaker 1: would argue it's hard to get all those. Number one 1515 01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:42,960 Speaker 1: right past, pass rusher is more important than d B 1516 01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:45,719 Speaker 1: every day of the week. Yes, of course I agree, 1517 01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:48,640 Speaker 1: and so like, just focus on this, Go find go 1518 01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:51,240 Speaker 1: find a quarterback, Go find a pass rusher, and go 1519 01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:53,560 Speaker 1: find people who can protect the quarterback. Go do that. 1520 01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:55,640 Speaker 1: You're going to be a good team. If you can 1521 01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,120 Speaker 1: protect the quarterback and control the line of scrimmage with 1522 01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:00,960 Speaker 1: a good quarterback, you're gonna be good. If you can 1523 01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:04,240 Speaker 1: rush the quarterback and hit him, then guess what, your 1524 01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:08,920 Speaker 1: secondary gets a lot better. Of course, But but again 1525 01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:15,800 Speaker 1: I thought that is more important than get in the guard. Um. 1526 01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:18,600 Speaker 1: Drew Brees would disagree with you. He wants to he 1527 01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:23,040 Speaker 1: wants a firm inside because he's like the two best 1528 01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:26,160 Speaker 1: positions on his line of the right tackle. Let I 1529 01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:28,720 Speaker 1: agree with you, that's fair, But My point is saying this. 1530 01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:31,360 Speaker 1: I was talking to the defensive coordinator, very well respected, 1531 01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:35,600 Speaker 1: whose coaches good defenses, and everyone listening. It's not it 1532 01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:39,360 Speaker 1: was not Gus Bradley with someone else. Um that UM 1533 01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:45,080 Speaker 1: told me is his corners well to like come say, 1534 01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:47,000 Speaker 1: it's like, hey, where's the pass rush? Because they know 1535 01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:52,880 Speaker 1: could you only can cover so long? If you like, 1536 01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:54,680 Speaker 1: let me tell you what you want to know. Where 1537 01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:57,360 Speaker 1: the Rams defense is. Past defense is really good. It's 1538 01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:58,920 Speaker 1: not like Jalen Rams is a big part of it. 1539 01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:01,439 Speaker 1: He's a very good player. But they're good because they 1540 01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:05,120 Speaker 1: can rush the passer with They have thirty one sacks 1541 01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:10,880 Speaker 1: their second and there there the league attack. They pressures right. 1542 01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:15,120 Speaker 1: But but again, you know, there's this old perception out 1543 01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:18,320 Speaker 1: there now in analytic world that the dbs are more 1544 01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:21,280 Speaker 1: important than the than the defensive line. And I don't 1545 01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:25,439 Speaker 1: believe it one better either. I'm with you. Let's get 1546 01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:29,760 Speaker 1: to our next question from at UCF Jaguar. How much 1547 01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:33,920 Speaker 1: of this is bad drafting versus not developing talent? Our 1548 01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:37,920 Speaker 1: players are always regressing. No way, Guys like Juwan Taylor, 1549 01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:41,280 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, and DJ Chart should be worse than they 1550 01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:46,360 Speaker 1: were last year. And they I don't think DJ Shark 1551 01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:49,960 Speaker 1: is well he was banged up though, yeah, but I 1552 01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:53,439 Speaker 1: don't think he's playing with quarterbacks. He's he better watch out. 1553 01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:55,679 Speaker 1: He'd end up being like Allen Robinson, never being able 1554 01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:58,000 Speaker 1: to play with a good quarterback. I don't think it's 1555 01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:01,479 Speaker 1: I don't think it's DJ. I just a good dj um. 1556 01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:07,519 Speaker 1: But the other two have regressed, well, Josh, Allen's been hurt, 1557 01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:11,479 Speaker 1: Pete and how hurt is that? We don't know. Yeah, 1558 01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:15,920 Speaker 1: he's been hurt a couple of games. You want, Taylor 1559 01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:21,000 Speaker 1: has been as regrets that's fair or at least don't 1560 01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:25,000 Speaker 1: say he hasn't improved. It hasn't improved. Um, I mean 1561 01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:28,120 Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I think it's more. I think 1562 01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:30,679 Speaker 1: it's drafting more than anything. Go look at the overall roster. 1563 01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:33,960 Speaker 1: It's the roster billboard than anything. You're asking me and people, 1564 01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:36,599 Speaker 1: and people will say, well, they didn't have an off 1565 01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:39,720 Speaker 1: season to get better and do there, and but you've 1566 01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:41,920 Speaker 1: seen other guys on other teams get better from year 1567 01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:43,880 Speaker 1: one the year two. But people, what would you say 1568 01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:46,439 Speaker 1: if you looked at where this organization is right now? 1569 01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:53,320 Speaker 1: Is it more coaching or more player acquisition? Acquisition. We've 1570 01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:55,960 Speaker 1: ross through this before. Yeah, but but you could point 1571 01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:57,680 Speaker 1: to a guy like Jawan Taylor and put it on 1572 01:29:57,760 --> 01:30:00,439 Speaker 1: the coo. Okay, but yeah, that's one off. I'm looking 1573 01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:04,479 Speaker 1: at fifty three guys, right, But but I thought Jowan 1574 01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:06,400 Speaker 1: Taylor was gonna look like a monster this year, and 1575 01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:11,920 Speaker 1: it hasn't happened. He's been inconsistent that the coach staff 1576 01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:19,160 Speaker 1: not on him. It ultimately on the guy. What is 1577 01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:21,200 Speaker 1: he doing? If you're an offensive lineman, you're a tackle, 1578 01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:23,519 Speaker 1: you're gonna go to all things. What's he doing wrong? 1579 01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:27,240 Speaker 1: His hands aren't great, he turns too much, thank he's 1580 01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:30,439 Speaker 1: too vertical at times, he doesn't make good like he 1581 01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:33,800 Speaker 1: gave up a pressure hit just like poor set like 1582 01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:36,840 Speaker 1: like and it was like almost like a not recognizing 1583 01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:40,160 Speaker 1: the situation who you're blocking and where the guy you know, 1584 01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:42,400 Speaker 1: into your guys lined up, and what you're trying to do. 1585 01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:44,680 Speaker 1: It's like it was just like lack of where you know? 1586 01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:47,000 Speaker 1: Is that the one where t J. Watt came around 1587 01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:50,160 Speaker 1: and and he looked like he came from black to 1588 01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:51,800 Speaker 1: get in there and get him. It wasn't like it 1589 01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:55,639 Speaker 1: was no, it was outside. It was I mean, it's 1590 01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:58,240 Speaker 1: a look, you should know exactly what's coming and so 1591 01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:01,479 Speaker 1: that stuff mental more than fit and cool. I mean 1592 01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:04,760 Speaker 1: he could play. I'm convinced he could play. Yeah. I 1593 01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:06,840 Speaker 1: thought he would be a star this year. I thought 1594 01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:08,439 Speaker 1: he would be one of the better right tackles in 1595 01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:14,320 Speaker 1: the league this year. Alright, one final question here, Um, 1596 01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:16,679 Speaker 1: this actually is not even a question, it's a comment 1597 01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:19,200 Speaker 1: at Janko Jack nine O four. At this point, I'd 1598 01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:21,799 Speaker 1: be more entertained watching Bassell and Prisco in a boxing 1599 01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:24,519 Speaker 1: match every Sunday than watching what I'm seeing every week. 1600 01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:27,599 Speaker 1: My money is on BASSELLI Prisco looks like he would 1601 01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:31,320 Speaker 1: punch below the belt, seeing that he's four ft three. Wow, 1602 01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:34,720 Speaker 1: that's a shot. Well, hey, I'm not four ft three. 1603 01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:37,360 Speaker 1: But b if I'm fighting Tony Bassell, I'm punching him. 1604 01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:42,320 Speaker 1: You know where I'm punching him. It's gonna way. Tony 1605 01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:48,760 Speaker 1: would have a higher pitched voice singing Pete and I 1606 01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:52,439 Speaker 1: don't want to fight. He would abuse me. He's a 1607 01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:54,800 Speaker 1: big man. Hurt It looks like it would hurt too. 1608 01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:56,800 Speaker 1: It's just I'm too old to fight. Who wants to fight? 1609 01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:03,880 Speaker 1: I'd go shoulder first, hips I would just say it's 1610 01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:07,280 Speaker 1: all you congratulated. You win. I don't want to get 1611 01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:09,840 Speaker 1: thrown around by a big man. I'll tell you that 1612 01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:14,200 Speaker 1: right now. I love it. Social questions are done. Thank 1613 01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:17,639 Speaker 1: you for the submissions today. We'll be back with more 1614 01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:20,240 Speaker 1: next week. We're back in a moment. We're a lild 1615 01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:23,080 Speaker 1: around the a f C South, Yes we must. But 1616 01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:27,160 Speaker 1: the not so powerful draft order rankings right around the 1617 01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:29,640 Speaker 1: corner as well. 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Aguars 1676 01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:03,559 Speaker 1: Happy Hour is presented in part by dream Finders Homes 1677 01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:09,120 Speaker 1: Homes that Fit Your Lifestyle, Next Grill, Everyone's Invited and 1678 01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:15,599 Speaker 1: a Deco Visit a Deco USA dot com. Welcome Back. 1679 01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:20,439 Speaker 1: The fight continues Jaguars Happy Hour on this Monday. After 1680 01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:25,320 Speaker 1: the Steelers knocked off the Jaguars yesterday. Three Steelers are 1681 01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:28,400 Speaker 1: ten and oh the Jaguars are not there one and nine. 1682 01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:31,200 Speaker 1: They've lost nine straight. It's time now for the a 1683 01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:35,439 Speaker 1: f C South. How are rankings and review. You're shaking 1684 01:36:35,479 --> 01:36:37,080 Speaker 1: your head, Pete, what are you shaking your head out? 1685 01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:43,960 Speaker 1: Because the Steelers have a legitimate chance to go undefeated, well, 1686 01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:48,240 Speaker 1: and they have full for Thursday night. Baltimore is bad 1687 01:36:48,360 --> 01:36:53,160 Speaker 1: right now. Then they have the toughest game remaining is 1688 01:36:53,200 --> 01:37:01,680 Speaker 1: at Buffalo game. Losing that one, Yeah, that's it. You 1689 01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:03,840 Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen. They're gonna clinch the division on 1690 01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:06,920 Speaker 1: Thursday night essentially and be jocking for home field advantage. 1691 01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:08,760 Speaker 1: Of people are saying, oh, it might be better off 1692 01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:13,439 Speaker 1: if they lose a game. No, it's not win them all. 1693 01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:19,040 Speaker 1: Let's look around the ANFC South. Yesterday, the Titans over 1694 01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:21,799 Speaker 1: the Ravens in overtime, thirty to twenty four, Derrick Henry 1695 01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:26,280 Speaker 1: to the house in the extra period, Pete Lamar Jackson, Man, 1696 01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:30,120 Speaker 1: they passing game is so limited. This is a passing league, 1697 01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:33,880 Speaker 1: and you keep teams in the game, That's what's gonna happen. Uh. 1698 01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:36,360 Speaker 1: I went back and I actually was doing something on 1699 01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:39,200 Speaker 1: him today and I went back. He's starting like fifty 1700 01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:42,679 Speaker 1: fewer passes on first down. Then Kyler Murray and Josh Allen, 1701 01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:45,000 Speaker 1: both quarterbacks who move around. They gotta let him throw 1702 01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:48,599 Speaker 1: an early downs wor let it happen. If he can't 1703 01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:50,760 Speaker 1: do it, then you got the wrong guy. Let him, 1704 01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:54,760 Speaker 1: Let him play fast and free and first down. Yeah. 1705 01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:57,120 Speaker 1: And I mean, I think here's the other thing is 1706 01:37:57,960 --> 01:38:01,840 Speaker 1: they got. I mean, you're right, his ability to runs great, 1707 01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:05,559 Speaker 1: but it can't be everything. You cannot. I don't think 1708 01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:08,000 Speaker 1: you can win consistently if that's the only thing you 1709 01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:10,560 Speaker 1: could do. And and I think he's regrets because I 1710 01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:12,439 Speaker 1: thought he was doing I thought he was better last year. 1711 01:38:12,439 --> 01:38:14,960 Speaker 1: In the pocket, they're throwing the ball and now you 1712 01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:19,120 Speaker 1: know this was you know, maybe a couple of weeks ago. 1713 01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:21,320 Speaker 1: But Hollywood Brown their four and first round pick, not 1714 01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:25,120 Speaker 1: happy again. Zero catches, three targets, zero catches. But you 1715 01:38:25,200 --> 01:38:28,400 Speaker 1: know what to Tony. Teams are playing more nickel and 1716 01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:32,439 Speaker 1: dime against him, playing more man and on third down particularly, 1717 01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:34,479 Speaker 1: and they're asking him to go make the accurate throw 1718 01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:36,360 Speaker 1: and he's not making it. You know, when you play, 1719 01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:38,080 Speaker 1: when you run the ball like he runs the ball, 1720 01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:40,240 Speaker 1: you can play that zone and he'll stick it in 1721 01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:42,240 Speaker 1: the tight endle curl in the middle of it. You'll 1722 01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:45,440 Speaker 1: hit him for a past. But now there's not they're 1723 01:38:45,479 --> 01:38:48,200 Speaker 1: not really worried about it as much. And the offensive 1724 01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:50,760 Speaker 1: line and the offensive lines beat up and you know 1725 01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:53,639 Speaker 1: they've got all kinds of issues. Right Stanley out Scura, 1726 01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:55,759 Speaker 1: they bench because he can't snap all of a sudden, 1727 01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:58,760 Speaker 1: something's going on there, I mean, and then and then no, 1728 01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:01,240 Speaker 1: they didn't have you into this year, which hurt them 1729 01:39:01,240 --> 01:39:05,720 Speaker 1: a great deal. But again though it's more him he's 1730 01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:09,920 Speaker 1: got I think again, this happened with Kaepernick when when 1731 01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:14,679 Speaker 1: Roman ran the Kaepernick offense. Eventually it leveled off because 1732 01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:19,080 Speaker 1: people they figure it out. Yeah, but the Titans give 1733 01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:22,080 Speaker 1: them credit because they were done in that game. They 1734 01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:23,720 Speaker 1: were down to eleven. I didn't think they were gonna 1735 01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:25,599 Speaker 1: be able and Dan I was scattered shooting it all 1736 01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:27,360 Speaker 1: over the place for a while, and they found the 1737 01:39:27,400 --> 01:39:29,120 Speaker 1: way to come back. You gotta give their tough, their 1738 01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:31,080 Speaker 1: physical and that was a big win for them. What 1739 01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:35,439 Speaker 1: was what was going on between Harbor and they kind 1740 01:39:35,479 --> 01:39:38,680 Speaker 1: of celebrated on the logo. I think the Titans and 1741 01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:40,920 Speaker 1: Hardball took offense to it and that's where they got in. 1742 01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:43,240 Speaker 1: There was some free game stuff too, right, the Titans 1743 01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:46,320 Speaker 1: guys and the Ravens coaches were laughing at each other 1744 01:39:46,439 --> 01:39:49,280 Speaker 1: pre game. Yep, yep. Let mean to say that's not 1745 01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:52,960 Speaker 1: that's I mean Harbor wants none of that? Would not well, 1746 01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:59,320 Speaker 1: might we played it out onebel don't you think Rabels 1747 01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:03,599 Speaker 1: the in a thirty two fight off between the end coaches. 1748 01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:08,200 Speaker 1: He's the last one standing. Let me go through real quick. Um, 1749 01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:12,280 Speaker 1: I think Doug would get some shots in, but he 1750 01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:15,120 Speaker 1: would he would be like Pete. He would he would 1751 01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:18,439 Speaker 1: play a little dirty just because that's okay. I think 1752 01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:21,920 Speaker 1: Doug would be a good match. I mean he's a 1753 01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:24,280 Speaker 1: big dog dog would beat Doug. Would be good. But 1754 01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:27,519 Speaker 1: what about um, Like back in the day, not now. 1755 01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:29,439 Speaker 1: Ron Rivera would have been a good fight back in 1756 01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:31,560 Speaker 1: the day. But Ron, I bet you still have some 1757 01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:34,479 Speaker 1: fight in him. He'd be like, okay, let me tell you. 1758 01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:37,120 Speaker 1: You know, Jack del Rio might have been that right 1759 01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:40,240 Speaker 1: Bell Belichick would have some scheme he tried to figure out. 1760 01:40:42,680 --> 01:40:45,120 Speaker 1: We all know. Yeah, it would be even fun to 1761 01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:47,080 Speaker 1: see who would who would be? I think Rabel would 1762 01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:52,280 Speaker 1: be one of the last men's standing. I think Rivera Rabel. Yeah. 1763 01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:56,479 Speaker 1: Then there's some sneaky guys like I think Anthony Lynn 1764 01:40:56,560 --> 01:41:01,960 Speaker 1: is sneaky, tough. He's another one for I forgot Anthony. Yeah, 1765 01:41:02,040 --> 01:41:04,639 Speaker 1: you would be there definitely in the end. He carry 1766 01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:09,640 Speaker 1: your first one out. No, yeah, he'd be one of them. 1767 01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:13,080 Speaker 1: He's out of there. Uh, Texans over the Patriots, by 1768 01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:19,200 Speaker 1: the way, bad boss, bad loss for the Patriots. Yeah, 1769 01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:22,600 Speaker 1: goodwin for the Texans. I mean they you know what 1770 01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:24,160 Speaker 1: the Texas did. They came out and they threw the 1771 01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:26,800 Speaker 1: ball and early down They had been doing much more 1772 01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:31,479 Speaker 1: of that with without Phill O'Brien and Deshaun Watson played better. Yeah, 1773 01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:33,120 Speaker 1: that's a bad loss for Patriots. But that's a good 1774 01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:38,040 Speaker 1: win for the Texas. I mean alive. But I thought 1775 01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:41,400 Speaker 1: I thought the Patriots would just Patriots run all over them. 1776 01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:45,280 Speaker 1: I did too, I did too. Didn't happen. The Colts 1777 01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:47,600 Speaker 1: were down big in the game, but they rallied to 1778 01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:50,519 Speaker 1: beat the Packers and over time. The Packers fumbled in 1779 01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:52,960 Speaker 1: over time to set up the game winning field goal. 1780 01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:55,880 Speaker 1: And this was a fun game to watch down the stretch. Yeah, 1781 01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:58,920 Speaker 1: the Packers have defensive problems stopping the run, and the Colts, 1782 01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:01,639 Speaker 1: the cult should have put game away in regulation. He said, 1783 01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:03,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys saw that. They're trying 1784 01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:06,240 Speaker 1: to run out the clock and they keep getting holding penalties. 1785 01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:10,080 Speaker 1: It was amazing. They ended up with a third Wood 1786 01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:12,320 Speaker 1: could have been a third and third or second and thirty. 1787 01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:14,080 Speaker 1: It took him out, you know, it took him out 1788 01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:16,639 Speaker 1: of field goal range, and they punted and then Rogers 1789 01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:21,920 Speaker 1: went down. And look, the Packers have defensive issues, the 1790 01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:25,000 Speaker 1: Colts might have some offensive issues, and so it kind 1791 01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:27,320 Speaker 1: of evened out there. But they made a place where 1792 01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:30,719 Speaker 1: they had to. Is the offices are the offensive issues 1793 01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:34,040 Speaker 1: for the Colts? One Philip Rivers, No, because he didn't 1794 01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:39,080 Speaker 1: actually play that poorly. Let I think, yes, you know 1795 01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:42,920 Speaker 1: you always talk about the Titans playmakers, Pittman starting to 1796 01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:44,600 Speaker 1: make some plays, but t Y Hill has been a 1797 01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:48,920 Speaker 1: major disappointment this year. Yeah, all right, quickly, guys, NFC 1798 01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:51,960 Speaker 1: South Power rankings. Um, I have an idea how they're 1799 01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:56,600 Speaker 1: gonna go, and Tony already spoiled. I passed. No, you 1800 01:42:56,680 --> 01:43:00,360 Speaker 1: gotta say it. He's saying it. One bold and they'll 1801 01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:02,840 Speaker 1: beat the Titans this week to really take hold of 1802 01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:09,639 Speaker 1: the division. Two Titans, three Texans, and way a way 1803 01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:13,479 Speaker 1: down is the Jaguars. But the Jaguars kind of one 1804 01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:16,320 Speaker 1: yesterday and here's why. Not only did they lose so 1805 01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:19,920 Speaker 1: they keep their draft position the Texans one, So now 1806 01:43:20,040 --> 01:43:22,799 Speaker 1: people won't keep saying the only two wins the Texas 1807 01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:29,760 Speaker 1: god came against the jag Wire. Yeah, I'll agree with 1808 01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:33,280 Speaker 1: the same power rankings. Um, although I think the Titans 1809 01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:37,040 Speaker 1: too upset the Pulps this week. You do dr back 1810 01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:40,360 Speaker 1: road games. That's tough, and I don't I don't think 1811 01:43:40,360 --> 01:43:43,040 Speaker 1: they will all Right now, time for the current not 1812 01:43:43,240 --> 01:43:50,280 Speaker 1: so powerful draft order NFL draft. Let's count down from 1813 01:43:50,320 --> 01:43:53,880 Speaker 1: ten to number one. As it stands today, Panthers four 1814 01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:58,080 Speaker 1: and seven or draft ten, Falcons three and seven, nine, 1815 01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:01,679 Speaker 1: the Texans eight, but the Dolphins get to pick their 1816 01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:03,920 Speaker 1: three and seven. The Giants at three and seven with 1817 01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:06,960 Speaker 1: draft seventh, The l A Chargers at three and seven 1818 01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:10,400 Speaker 1: will draft six. Washington Football team at three and seven 1819 01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:14,240 Speaker 1: with draft five, the Dallas Cowboys at three and seven 1820 01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:18,880 Speaker 1: would draft fourth, The Cincinnati Bengals at to seven and 1821 01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:23,160 Speaker 1: one would draft third, The Jacksonville Jaguars at one and 1822 01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:27,120 Speaker 1: nine drafting second, and the New York Jets are oh 1823 01:44:27,200 --> 01:44:29,479 Speaker 1: and ten. They have the first overall pick as it 1824 01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:34,200 Speaker 1: stands today, I think the way Jacksonville sitting right now, 1825 01:44:34,280 --> 01:44:38,080 Speaker 1: they're almost a lot to get either Trevor Lawrence or 1826 01:44:38,120 --> 01:44:44,120 Speaker 1: Justin Fields. Well you can't. I mean you have room 1827 01:44:44,240 --> 01:44:46,000 Speaker 1: to win one more. If you win two more in 1828 01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:48,240 Speaker 1: the Bengals don't win another game, which they might not 1829 01:44:48,439 --> 01:44:52,880 Speaker 1: without Joe Burrow, then you gotta worry about people going 1830 01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:54,559 Speaker 1: Then you gotta worry about people going up to get 1831 01:44:54,600 --> 01:45:00,120 Speaker 1: that right, pick right, So don't win again. Well, it's 1832 01:45:00,160 --> 01:45:02,600 Speaker 1: my head, that's my advice. Or win one more to 1833 01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:04,680 Speaker 1: make everybody feel good. Then you're locked in to get 1834 01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:08,840 Speaker 1: Justin Fields. If you win one more, would you rather 1835 01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:13,479 Speaker 1: here's here we go. Would you rather not win another one? 1836 01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:20,200 Speaker 1: Answers that the Jets lose one or win one, and no, 1837 01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:22,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna have that. You're not gonna win another one, 1838 01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:25,160 Speaker 1: and you're locked into at least two. Well, if you're 1839 01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:31,120 Speaker 1: gonna be fourteen or fifteen losses, doesn't matter, you can. 1840 01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:35,679 Speaker 1: So you've come aboard on the one of fifteen. Lock 1841 01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:38,280 Speaker 1: it off, right, you're a green. That's a lot. I'm 1842 01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:42,040 Speaker 1: not there yet, Peter. Is it a lock for you? Oh, 1843 01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:46,200 Speaker 1: it's a lock. It's a lot. One lock locked it in. 1844 01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:50,000 Speaker 1: And you know what, that's a good thing because if 1845 01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:53,599 Speaker 1: the Jets win one, you pick first. It depends who 1846 01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:57,920 Speaker 1: you ask that question, too true, if it's a good 1847 01:45:58,080 --> 01:46:01,720 Speaker 1: the grand scheme of things again on anybody in the 1848 01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:05,080 Speaker 1: locker room, the brand scheme of things, I would agree 1849 01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:08,040 Speaker 1: with that. I mean, I guarantee you if you ask 1850 01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:13,400 Speaker 1: DJ Chart and the wide receivers if they had a 1851 01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:19,120 Speaker 1: chance next year to play with Trevor Lawrence their games 1852 01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:21,400 Speaker 1: and you put them on that old line detector thing, 1853 01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:24,920 Speaker 1: you know what the sounds gonna be. You know what 1854 01:46:25,080 --> 01:46:28,439 Speaker 1: the sound will be. Hey, DJ, would you rather play 1855 01:46:28,439 --> 01:46:30,760 Speaker 1: with Trevor Lawrence or win one more game? Oh? I'd 1856 01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:40,639 Speaker 1: rather win one more game? You're terrible. Would you rather 1857 01:46:40,720 --> 01:46:44,439 Speaker 1: have five seven good years with Trevor Lawrence or win 1858 01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:47,639 Speaker 1: one more meaningless game? 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We're back, Baby Jaguars Happy Hour coming 1921 01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:32,920 Speaker 1: down the Stretch on this Monday day after the Steelers 1922 01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:36,840 Speaker 1: Jaguars game. JP Shadrick Peepri's go Tony Vassali, Let's go 1923 01:50:36,880 --> 01:50:40,000 Speaker 1: around the National Football League quickly from yesterday some other games. 1924 01:50:40,160 --> 01:50:43,160 Speaker 1: By the way, the Ravens have added a few guys 1925 01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:45,760 Speaker 1: to the COVID Night team list after the game yesterday. 1926 01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:48,320 Speaker 1: J K. Dobbins one of those, mark Ingram one of those. 1927 01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:52,040 Speaker 1: They played Thursday night on Thanksgiving Night. How did they 1928 01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:55,920 Speaker 1: play on Sunday? I don't know, but they tested positive. 1929 01:50:56,800 --> 01:51:00,120 Speaker 1: They try tested positive this morning. I'm being sarcastic. By 1930 01:51:00,160 --> 01:51:03,880 Speaker 1: the way, Um, yeah, I mean they're not gonna play 1931 01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:08,240 Speaker 1: on Thursday, right So that means Gus Edwards will be 1932 01:51:08,360 --> 01:51:10,880 Speaker 1: your lead running back on Thursday. Means the Steelers about 1933 01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:15,080 Speaker 1: to heaven and know what it means to be better 1934 01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:17,120 Speaker 1: than the Ravens. And the Ravens have issues. That's not 1935 01:51:17,240 --> 01:51:22,000 Speaker 1: a good team right now. And who do they bring up? Yeah, 1936 01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:24,439 Speaker 1: that's a good question. Who. All right, let's let's touch 1937 01:51:24,479 --> 01:51:26,360 Speaker 1: in these other games quickly, go around the league. We'll 1938 01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:29,360 Speaker 1: touch on Monday football. Copping got Panthers over the Lions 1939 01:51:29,600 --> 01:51:36,320 Speaker 1: twenty to nothing. Lions are done patrician, by the way. 1940 01:51:39,320 --> 01:51:42,680 Speaker 1: They blow out the GM two. Yes, I think, yes, 1941 01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:45,760 Speaker 1: it's so there's your there's more competition. I mean, you 1942 01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:47,960 Speaker 1: know you talk about the Falcons. Now there's another group. 1943 01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:51,920 Speaker 1: And then you got the Texas four four teams looking 1944 01:51:51,960 --> 01:51:57,000 Speaker 1: for GM's possibly Browns. Browns over the Eagle seventeen. Big 1945 01:51:57,080 --> 01:51:59,439 Speaker 1: rushing and defensive day for the Browns coming in here 1946 01:51:59,520 --> 01:52:02,839 Speaker 1: next week. They can run the ball. And my goodness, 1947 01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:04,840 Speaker 1: I've got two backs. They've got a good offensive line. 1948 01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:08,439 Speaker 1: Um that team has. I mean, Baker Mayfield is like 1949 01:52:08,479 --> 01:52:11,760 Speaker 1: an afterthought. That team offensively, it's about Cream Hunt and 1950 01:52:12,040 --> 01:52:14,880 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb. But the Jaguards get a break though. No 1951 01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:19,639 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett Olivia Vernon played well last week, though he did, 1952 01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:22,040 Speaker 1: he did. But that offensive line, are they the best 1953 01:52:22,120 --> 01:52:24,439 Speaker 1: offensive line in the league right now? Tony I've only 1954 01:52:24,479 --> 01:52:26,960 Speaker 1: seen him one in the time I saw him. They're 1955 01:52:27,000 --> 01:52:29,719 Speaker 1: really good because the guards are really good. But Tonia 1956 01:52:29,800 --> 01:52:33,960 Speaker 1: and Teller, the center is good. Uh. And then you 1957 01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:36,280 Speaker 1: look at the right tackle conference playing well over there, 1958 01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:39,120 Speaker 1: and their left tackles starting to play better as a rookie. 1959 01:52:39,160 --> 01:52:42,000 Speaker 1: They're they're good up front. When I saw him early, 1960 01:52:43,080 --> 01:52:45,880 Speaker 1: the left tackle was coming along, really physical and the 1961 01:52:46,160 --> 01:52:48,320 Speaker 1: really physical player in the run game though, And they're 1962 01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:49,880 Speaker 1: good and they run. That's all everything they do is 1963 01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:54,080 Speaker 1: based on that run. Everything Saints over the Falcons twenty 1964 01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:59,599 Speaker 1: four nine. How the quarterback position work out? Pete, Oh, 1965 01:53:00,280 --> 01:53:04,120 Speaker 1: everybody wanted this. This reminds me of Tebow. I mean, 1966 01:53:04,240 --> 01:53:07,080 Speaker 1: it's like, let's rush him up. Oh my god, Look 1967 01:53:07,120 --> 01:53:10,360 Speaker 1: what he can do is Tebow? Never how many people 1968 01:53:10,479 --> 01:53:13,000 Speaker 1: held onto the Tebow mania for years and there was 1969 01:53:13,080 --> 01:53:16,400 Speaker 1: one person that held the line and never would break 1970 01:53:16,479 --> 01:53:18,280 Speaker 1: and that was me. And I was right. And I 1971 01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:21,479 Speaker 1: don't think this kid's any good either as a quarterback. Look, 1972 01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:24,600 Speaker 1: all I know is I went there on the sidelines 1973 01:53:24,640 --> 01:53:27,280 Speaker 1: with Bobby Abert. You know Bobby Hebert, he's covered. That's 1974 01:53:27,680 --> 01:53:30,479 Speaker 1: quarterback there, and we were talking and Bobby and his 1975 01:53:30,600 --> 01:53:33,160 Speaker 1: typical cage and accent, says, I don't know what he 1976 01:53:33,240 --> 01:53:37,920 Speaker 1: sees to him. He doesn't think he could pass? How 1977 01:53:38,000 --> 01:53:40,040 Speaker 1: do you I didn't see any of the game. How 1978 01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:42,600 Speaker 1: a couple it was okay, But I mean, can you 1979 01:53:42,680 --> 01:53:45,120 Speaker 1: get excited about a team that when the quarterback doesn't 1980 01:53:45,120 --> 01:53:47,960 Speaker 1: throw a touchdown pass against the Atlanta Falcon, we're giving 1981 01:53:48,040 --> 01:53:50,799 Speaker 1: up twenty eight points a game. Can you get excited 1982 01:53:50,800 --> 01:53:52,599 Speaker 1: about that? If that's what you want from your quarterback, 1983 01:53:52,680 --> 01:53:58,639 Speaker 1: then we'll give him kudos. The Washington over the Bengals 1984 01:53:59,640 --> 01:54:04,719 Speaker 1: nine borrow toward multiple ligaments in his left knee. Yeah, 1985 01:54:04,920 --> 01:54:07,040 Speaker 1: and that was bad. You hate to see it. You 1986 01:54:07,120 --> 01:54:10,679 Speaker 1: hate to see a guy having that kind of rookie 1987 01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:13,840 Speaker 1: year ago down. But you know, I hear today people 1988 01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:15,680 Speaker 1: talking about, oh, he might not be ready, he might 1989 01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:20,400 Speaker 1: not be ready. We've seen guys Rob Gronkowski tours a 1990 01:54:20,520 --> 01:54:22,200 Speaker 1: c L and his m c L in December and 1991 01:54:22,280 --> 01:54:25,240 Speaker 1: played on opening Day. The problem is he's gonna miss 1992 01:54:25,280 --> 01:54:27,000 Speaker 1: all the off season work that he didn't get this 1993 01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:31,960 Speaker 1: year either, that's the problem. Yeah, it's too bad. Unfortunately, 1994 01:54:32,240 --> 01:54:34,640 Speaker 1: uh As everyone knows injuries part of the game, and 1995 01:54:34,680 --> 01:54:35,920 Speaker 1: but you just hate to see it in such a 1996 01:54:35,960 --> 01:54:41,160 Speaker 1: good young player. Yeah, Broncos over the Dolphins, everybody hates 1997 01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:44,400 Speaker 1: to all of a sudden, why did they take him? Now? 1998 01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:48,800 Speaker 1: If you went to him, isn't the whole part of 1999 01:54:48,920 --> 01:54:51,720 Speaker 1: playing him is allowing him to have those type of 2000 01:54:51,800 --> 01:54:54,880 Speaker 1: situations where he's downten in the fourth quarter to see 2001 01:54:54,920 --> 01:54:57,400 Speaker 1: if he can get out from underneath the crap. Because 2002 01:54:57,680 --> 01:54:59,640 Speaker 1: because Pete, they think they're in a playoff team and 2003 01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:02,400 Speaker 1: they thought, okay, Patrick could bring him back. I get it, 2004 01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:04,680 Speaker 1: I understand that, but is this year are they even 2005 01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:06,160 Speaker 1: if they get the playoffs and they're gonna make a 2006 01:55:06,200 --> 01:55:10,920 Speaker 1: run in the playoffs. Done. So it's about building him. 2007 01:55:11,640 --> 01:55:14,120 Speaker 1: It's not about this year. I didn't how bad? How 2008 01:55:14,240 --> 01:55:17,920 Speaker 1: how bad did he look? Well? The offensive line guy 2009 01:55:18,320 --> 01:55:22,200 Speaker 1: just destroyed. He was getting crushed. They were that he 2010 01:55:22,280 --> 01:55:24,640 Speaker 1: didn't look great, but the line was bad and they 2011 01:55:24,680 --> 01:55:27,320 Speaker 1: had played pretty well as a group that that line. 2012 01:55:27,480 --> 01:55:32,520 Speaker 1: They're young chargers over the jetst Herbert has three or 2013 01:55:32,560 --> 01:55:35,480 Speaker 1: more passing touchdowns and five games. That's a rookie record. 2014 01:55:36,720 --> 01:55:40,400 Speaker 1: He's good that way. It comes out of his out 2015 01:55:40,440 --> 01:55:43,240 Speaker 1: of his hand. Uh. And he he threw a touchdown 2016 01:55:43,280 --> 01:55:45,320 Speaker 1: pass in the fourth quarter on Sunday. They went, oh 2017 01:55:45,400 --> 01:55:49,880 Speaker 1: my gosh, it just was a rifle shot between about 2018 01:55:49,920 --> 01:55:53,680 Speaker 1: three guys. He's good. He's really good. Apparently the Cowboys 2019 01:55:53,720 --> 01:55:56,960 Speaker 1: were fired up by the head coaches meeting when he 2020 01:55:57,440 --> 01:56:00,520 Speaker 1: used a sledgehammer like Gallagher and Small a bunch of 2021 01:56:00,600 --> 01:56:03,200 Speaker 1: watermelons in front of the team for the Cowboys and 2022 01:56:03,240 --> 01:56:07,720 Speaker 1: they beat the Vikings. Why did he get is this 2023 01:56:07,880 --> 01:56:14,520 Speaker 1: high school? Remember the acts in the locker room? Yeah, 2024 01:56:14,640 --> 01:56:20,440 Speaker 1: that worked well. I can't stand motivational crap. If you're 2025 01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:26,040 Speaker 1: not ready to play, what's wrong with you what, what's 2026 01:56:26,080 --> 01:56:28,680 Speaker 1: the sledgehammer in the watermelons? Don't know what was the acts? 2027 01:56:28,880 --> 01:56:33,280 Speaker 1: What was the acts? Chopping? Would keep chopping, chop, chop chop. 2028 01:56:33,440 --> 01:56:39,360 Speaker 1: This punter's camp off. It's hilarious. It's not the Chiefs 2029 01:56:39,480 --> 01:56:46,120 Speaker 1: over the Raiders five one. This was that was a 2030 01:56:46,160 --> 01:56:48,640 Speaker 1: good football game. Last time. That was a good football game. 2031 01:56:48,640 --> 01:56:51,920 Speaker 1: The Chiefs had defensive issues though, and look, give Derek 2032 01:56:51,960 --> 01:56:54,680 Speaker 1: car credit played well, but they have issues on defense. 2033 01:56:54,720 --> 01:56:56,840 Speaker 1: And then we know the Raiders do. Was there any 2034 01:56:56,880 --> 01:56:59,080 Speaker 1: doubt my Homes is getting the ball going right down 2035 01:56:59,120 --> 01:57:02,840 Speaker 1: to the field scoring and and can people quit raving 2036 01:57:02,920 --> 01:57:05,560 Speaker 1: about Jonathan abram because he makes a big hit or 2037 01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:08,560 Speaker 1: two the guy gets that was his coverage? What was 2038 01:57:08,600 --> 01:57:11,520 Speaker 1: he doing? He comes running up. If Mahomes scrambles for 2039 01:57:11,640 --> 01:57:17,160 Speaker 1: seven yard eight yards, who care? Right? Those are the 2040 01:57:17,240 --> 01:57:20,480 Speaker 1: games from yesterday in week eleven. Time for Monday Night 2041 01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:23,600 Speaker 1: football and a great battle on tampat Raymond James Stadium 2042 01:57:23,640 --> 01:57:26,600 Speaker 1: in Tampa. Aaron Donald Jalen Ramsey in the defense of 2043 01:57:26,680 --> 01:57:29,600 Speaker 1: the six and three Los Angeles Rams meet the goat, 2044 01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:32,640 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Gronk and Leonard for that and the seven 2045 01:57:32,680 --> 01:57:35,920 Speaker 1: and three Tampa Bay Buccaneers fire the Cannons told meets 2046 01:57:36,000 --> 01:57:38,200 Speaker 1: Leather at eight fifteen, who you got tonight in Tampa. 2047 01:57:40,320 --> 01:57:42,760 Speaker 1: I think Tampa will win a close game. I think 2048 01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:45,760 Speaker 1: this is gonna. I want Tony because he's doing the 2049 01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:49,400 Speaker 1: game first series. If Tom Brady goes three and out, 2050 01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:51,800 Speaker 1: keep an eye on his body language, because you remember 2051 01:57:51,800 --> 01:57:53,440 Speaker 1: when he played at Night Dome a couple of weeks 2052 01:57:53,440 --> 01:57:55,760 Speaker 1: ago against the Saints. He went three and out and 2053 01:57:55,840 --> 01:57:58,760 Speaker 1: he started as Tom moping, and it carried over and 2054 01:57:58,800 --> 01:58:01,120 Speaker 1: he moped the entire game. He was terrible. And this 2055 01:58:01,320 --> 01:58:03,520 Speaker 1: you mentioned it, Tony. This Rams team could get after 2056 01:58:03,600 --> 01:58:06,760 Speaker 1: the quarterback. Well, the bigger issues this is the last 2057 01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:09,880 Speaker 1: three games. Tom Brady is one out of thirteen of 2058 01:58:10,040 --> 01:58:14,080 Speaker 1: passes that have traveled twenty or more yards. He's been 2059 01:58:14,160 --> 01:58:17,080 Speaker 1: wildly inaccurate down the field, and if you watch the tape, 2060 01:58:17,080 --> 01:58:20,560 Speaker 1: they're really inconsistent. Pete, it's like feast famine is an offense. 2061 01:58:20,600 --> 01:58:23,160 Speaker 1: And I worry about a good Rams defense that can 2062 01:58:23,240 --> 01:58:25,160 Speaker 1: cover you on the back half and rush the passer. 2063 01:58:25,480 --> 01:58:27,200 Speaker 1: I think that, But I think the Buccaneers win a 2064 01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:28,560 Speaker 1: close game. But I don't think there's a lot of 2065 01:58:28,600 --> 01:58:30,880 Speaker 1: points tonight. I don't either. And by the way, that 2066 01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:34,400 Speaker 1: other corner, Williams, is playing really well for the Rams. Yeah, 2067 01:58:34,480 --> 01:58:38,320 Speaker 1: Darius Williams. Yeah, they're They're good on defense, and they're defense. 2068 01:58:38,320 --> 01:58:40,480 Speaker 1: The coordinator has done a good job again, though, I 2069 01:58:40,560 --> 01:58:42,360 Speaker 1: want to you know, I think part of the reason 2070 01:58:42,440 --> 01:58:45,000 Speaker 1: Brady has been inaccurate. I think the eyes are coming 2071 01:58:45,080 --> 01:58:47,840 Speaker 1: out a little bit now because if you look at 2072 01:58:47,840 --> 01:58:50,280 Speaker 1: I watched the tape, the ones, he's not looking at 2073 01:58:50,280 --> 01:58:52,240 Speaker 1: the rush of the ones. I mean, these are guys 2074 01:58:52,560 --> 01:58:54,760 Speaker 1: wide open. He missed two wide up in post patterns. 2075 01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:58,960 Speaker 1: One Devans won to Antonio Brown. Antonio Brown in the 2076 01:58:59,080 --> 01:59:01,520 Speaker 1: game last weekend. I mean, guys wide open and he 2077 01:59:01,680 --> 01:59:04,480 Speaker 1: just sailed them. Okay, So the headline from today is 2078 01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:09,800 Speaker 1: basely Brady washed up. Yeah, I'm doing that. I'm not 2079 01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:12,760 Speaker 1: that guy. It'll be the clip after the game tonight, 2080 01:59:12,840 --> 01:59:16,360 Speaker 1: all over social media. Have a great call tonight, Tony, 2081 01:59:16,640 --> 01:59:19,960 Speaker 1: enjoy it ly on Westwood One. Is that where you're on? 2082 01:59:21,720 --> 01:59:24,280 Speaker 1: All right, Tony Vasselli out of here, Pete Frisco, out 2083 01:59:24,320 --> 01:59:26,839 Speaker 1: of here. For our entire crew, I'm J. P. 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