Speaker 1: What's up, family, I'm to make a d Mallory and
Speaker 1: I might son the general. Welcome to Street Politicians, the
Speaker 1: place where the streets and politics. Me. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: we got us an episode today. It's enough going on. Man.
Speaker 1: The world has shifted. It keeps shifting, but it shifted again.
Speaker 1: If listen to me, I was innb in Atlanta after
Speaker 1: the day after we participated and helped the all the
Speaker 1: organizations in Atlanta who was out there doing work to
Speaker 1: make sure that we gotta Senate that was actually able
Speaker 1: to help this administration passed some laws from back and
Speaker 1: you know, and we were celebrating that we are so
Speaker 1: that you can't say it because you don't know what
Speaker 1: they're gonna do, but you only we know that, listen,
Speaker 1: that's all we know. We know that we our jobs.
Speaker 1: We looked, we said, okay, we're gonna put all the
Speaker 1: feats on the ground. We went out to Atlanta. The
Speaker 1: boots and the feet snowler. We was on the ground.
Speaker 1: We was out there working and we knocked on doors,
Speaker 1: were handed out pamphlets. We do feel like feats on
Speaker 1: the ground. It does the ground when you knocking on them. Listen,
Speaker 1: door knocking, It was cold. Door knocking is very very hard.
Speaker 1: People think that going out and knocking this stuff is
Speaker 1: like fun. You'll look like you're having to get Some
Speaker 1: people don't want you to make it look fun. They're
Speaker 1: looking at you do guns everything. You know. Georgia they
Speaker 1: got this open carry state. So I knocked on. We
Speaker 1: knocked on one door. A Meal Washington from wote vote
Speaker 1: and I were when we got in teams and he
Speaker 1: and I were walking through this neighborhood. So one door
Speaker 1: that we knocked on. First of all, I think that
Speaker 1: in this particular corridor it's like a dead and like
Speaker 1: a cul de sac. I think that black people called
Speaker 1: each other on the phone and said day out here
Speaker 1: again on open the door, because nobody but everybody's cars
Speaker 1: was in the yard. Everybody cars all up on the
Speaker 1: grass and everything that they would have barbecues, but they
Speaker 1: weren't home. But there was this one place that we
Speaker 1: walked up to and it said, um, it's not worth it.
Speaker 1: Nothing that we have in this house is worth your
Speaker 1: life because we have several guns in here. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: and I'm supposed to go here the porch exactly scream
Speaker 1: and say have you voted? That's what not just certain
Speaker 1: certain places you just walk up, you look, you assess
Speaker 1: the situation. So this is dangerous, it's pretty die here.
Speaker 1: So you put you put the little pamphlet on the thing.
Speaker 1: You said, hey, make sure you're going to vote. Make
Speaker 1: sure we just you know, just we just we just
Speaker 1: got some literature here to make sure you're going to
Speaker 1: vote if you haven't voted, which is what they did
Speaker 1: not do for Brianna's right and Kenny Walker, because we
Speaker 1: know that when you don't know about other people's communities,
Speaker 1: but I know in the black community, when you are
Speaker 1: going to campus to knock on doors to bring them groceries,
Speaker 1: to you know, provide a service if you are a friend,
Speaker 1: a visitor yourself, when you approach the area, the more
Speaker 1: noise that you can make, the more that you can
Speaker 1: make it clearness that I'm not here, I'm peace. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can get out or something. You gotta let you
Speaker 1: gotta know who you are, because nobody's more likely we
Speaker 1: ain't gonna shoot the police because we were scared of
Speaker 1: That's why you know, we understand you're going to jail forever.
Speaker 1: You shooting the police? Who shooting? And if you're gonna
Speaker 1: shoot at the police. You ain't shooting one shot. The
Speaker 1: person who made the determination that I'm shooting at the police,
Speaker 1: it's even gonna killed or died. They ain't saying you
Speaker 1: let me shoot one shot and hope and let them
Speaker 1: catch me and kill me. No, that person has made
Speaker 1: a full asked me that I'm trying to take you
Speaker 1: out or you're gonna take me out. So if somebody
Speaker 1: shot one shot, they did not know no police. What
Speaker 1: did Ruby detail Denzel Washington and American gangs? She said, listen,
Speaker 1: I know you don't kill cops. Everybody knows everybody, your
Speaker 1: wife knows, your brother, everybody except you. And she said,
Speaker 1: she said she I would leave you. She said she
Speaker 1: will leave you too. You're gonna because black people know
Speaker 1: you can't kill anything with cops. So anybody that felt
Speaker 1: that these people actually shout the cops on purpose with
Speaker 1: one shot that rick off the ground is out of
Speaker 1: the damn mind completely. But anyway, knocking on doors is hard,
Speaker 1: and we did that in Georgia. We really days and
Speaker 1: shout out to woke, vote to Wanna Thompson a meal,
Speaker 1: all of their whole team. They've been with us, you know,
Speaker 1: Tristan from the whole state of the State of Emergency
Speaker 1: tour until we went to Georgia. You know, the camaraderie
Speaker 1: that we built as a team, it's just dope. So
Speaker 1: my story, I was telling my story, you know, I
Speaker 1: was just we were celebrating. We was happy. He was like, yes,
Speaker 1: we just finished the gathering spot. We we've seen the
Speaker 1: votes was in. Everybody was amped up and we went
Speaker 1: to sleep. We woke up, you know, we had a
Speaker 1: long night with but we all knew that there was
Speaker 1: going on, and it was like, let's see what the
Speaker 1: fools are doing. And I turned on the TV. And
Speaker 1: by the time I turned on the TV, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm listening, Trump is right, that was you were watching.
Speaker 1: Watch in his address and what he was saying was
Speaker 1: just I was like, is he really saying that? He said,
Speaker 1: We're gonna walk down and I'll be there with you.
Speaker 1: We're gonna walk down, gonna walk down anyone you want.
Speaker 1: But I think right here, we're gonna walk down to
Speaker 1: the capital and we're gonna cheer on our brave senators
Speaker 1: and congressmen and women, and we're probably not gonna be
Speaker 1: cheering so much for some of them. Because you'll never
Speaker 1: take back our country with weakness. You have to show
Speaker 1: strength and you have to be strong. That sounds like
Speaker 1: he's telling people we're gonna go because I know if
Speaker 1: if he said it's going to take force, it's gonna
Speaker 1: take it. We're gonna take it back with force, and
Speaker 1: it can't be weak. You can't be weak. And I'm like, yo, yeah,
Speaker 1: what I mean he literally just said that if we
Speaker 1: said that, we turned no. But it gives ja Well,
Speaker 1: that's one thing. I mean, let's let's just for that.
Speaker 1: Listen to me. For that statement alone is reason let's
Speaker 1: talk about complete treason. Will talk about the Black Panthers
Speaker 1: and others who just for the mere statement. We're locked
Speaker 1: up just for the mere statement because they said it
Speaker 1: is inciting violence. That is what we have heard over
Speaker 1: and over again in history. But for us, we know
Speaker 1: that at the point that we would have had that
Speaker 1: kind of energy like we're gonna walk down here, we're
Speaker 1: gonna take back no weakness does as soon as we
Speaker 1: would have turned around, they would have been lined up
Speaker 1: in the street with tanks, dogs, shooting tear gas, flash bombs, Like,
Speaker 1: what are we talking about? They did that, and we
Speaker 1: was walking down the street to my we shall become
Speaker 1: that's it. Holding hands. These people they got guns, they
Speaker 1: got sticks, faces is meaning have painted their skin, they
Speaker 1: got heavy they're walking on a black like this. You
Speaker 1: look and tell that they have at them, were walking
Speaker 1: down with our hands, were kneeling and y'all, well, whoever
Speaker 1: saying that, But the bottom line is the response to
Speaker 1: us and the response to them. It's just so it
Speaker 1: was just so different. I think as I watched those
Speaker 1: people take over that capital building, and I was just
Speaker 1: really an amazement. I said, yo, and I don't care
Speaker 1: what we say about Trump. Trumper is a gangster. Trump.
Speaker 1: Trump is moving criminal. No, no, it's gangster this he's
Speaker 1: a criminal because no, no, because at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, he's a criminal. He has the criminality along
Speaker 1: with the gangsterism. Because the bottom line is that man
Speaker 1: told his people tear down but listen. If they don't look,
Speaker 1: they are threatened our democracies and landslide. They took over.
Speaker 1: We gotta take our country back. And he said, just
Speaker 1: people out there, he eve been Trump been doing some gags.
Speaker 1: I've never seen. The only person I've seen moved like
Speaker 1: him is Al Capone and Gian Gardy, I've never I've
Speaker 1: never seen nobody else move like this. This man is
Speaker 1: literally calling hits from the White House. He has told
Speaker 1: people he told on me, we're gonna take care of him.
Speaker 1: If you don't tell on me, we're gonna get you party,
Speaker 1: We're gonna part of you like I have never And
Speaker 1: that's what he's been doing the last few weeks. This
Speaker 1: man is pardon in criminals. He is calling for violence,
Speaker 1: he is causing civil unrest. I mean, he is so dangerous.
Speaker 1: But as I have said it, I said almost every episode.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be saying it forever. It's cute now that
Speaker 1: Facebook and Twitter and Lindsy Graham and Mitch McConnell and
Speaker 1: all these people have found somewhere in the sky that
Speaker 1: this can't happen. This is wrong, it's not. But they
Speaker 1: were four years you know what it is. These people
Speaker 1: understand the significant situation. Right now Trump is about to
Speaker 1: leave office. Sail said, we're gonna put cases on all you.
Speaker 1: They put cases on oh you, We've oh y'all this
Speaker 1: ship is Conspiracy'll listen to me. This man is running
Speaker 1: an organized and they realized they're like, you know what,
Speaker 1: when he get out, ain't nobody to protect us because
Speaker 1: he told us he could partner us when he ain't
Speaker 1: the president of more and these people come down with them,
Speaker 1: charges them, conspiracy charges. I don't need nothing to do
Speaker 1: with it. They're like, you know. I looked at Lindsay
Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham the other day. Lindsey Graham was smacked. He
Speaker 1: was I wanted to wanted you to win. I wanted
Speaker 1: you to win. I wanted everything. We gotta stop, no,
Speaker 1: and then he said we got people said we got
Speaker 1: to stop. At this point, it's nothing here for us.
Speaker 1: I wanted you please. It's Lindsey Graham looks like he's drunk,
Speaker 1: like he's had a few. I was sitting there having
Speaker 1: me a few, like Lindsay, me and you together. This
Speaker 1: is too much. It is. It's just and a woman.
Speaker 1: The woman got shot these people. The lady had the
Speaker 1: Trump flag and the Americans. Did you see the video
Speaker 1: that she made before she cursed out Kamala average And
Speaker 1: you still feel bad and you don't because you don't
Speaker 1: want nobody to die. We listen to me, if if
Speaker 1: it was one of us, that there are many people,
Speaker 1: many white folks, just gotta say what I gotta say.
Speaker 1: They would say you deserved it because you shouldn't have
Speaker 1: been at smoking. That's what they say. With us, we say,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm still still I feel so bad.
Speaker 1: You know that this could happen to her, This woman
Speaker 1: was killed. You know what I just said. I was
Speaker 1: very bad. I just when I've seen it. I just
Speaker 1: said to Brianna Taylor, you know because I really understood. No,
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying, because it was really bad.
Speaker 1: Because when you look at that situation, I think at
Speaker 1: that point, right, you understood. So imagine you sleeping in
Speaker 1: your home and the police kill you. You just walked
Speaker 1: in the door, you unarmed, and police killed you, and
Speaker 1: people are sad, and I don't know what she was offers.
Speaker 1: It seemed to me like the black officer in one situation,
Speaker 1: the one I don't know if he was a FBI,
Speaker 1: you know whatever, he was the military and not military,
Speaker 1: like a secret service or something like that. But that
Speaker 1: officer and then um, the other officer that we saw
Speaker 1: being chased up the stairs trying to stop the mob
Speaker 1: that was coming in the building, saying like the black
Speaker 1: officers were taking on the responsibility. The man was at
Speaker 1: the door with. How did they leave that black man
Speaker 1: at the door with a stick he was run No,
Speaker 1: he had a as I saw it, but he didn't
Speaker 1: he know better, he saw a gun on his way.
Speaker 1: I would have pulled up what he knew better about
Speaker 1: he go back to the shoot you. They didn't. They weren't.
Speaker 1: But see the thing is, it wasn't worth dying or
Speaker 1: even ruining your career and everything else for shooting those
Speaker 1: people all. But I'm fulk building because it's not about
Speaker 1: shooting him down. That's the building. You're not getting it
Speaker 1: what I would have did right, I'm not swinging those
Speaker 1: sticks as they welcome, trying to do his job. Back up,
Speaker 1: going where you're going, don't walk up to me because
Speaker 1: the check me, I'm pulling it at you, like listening
Speaker 1: where you're going go, don't walkoume to me. I don't
Speaker 1: want to shoot you, but I'm gonna check my life.
Speaker 1: It didn't seem to me, and I think they did
Speaker 1: it on purpose. I think it was strategic that for
Speaker 1: the most part they were holding their hands up. They
Speaker 1: were trying to show that I'm not trying to hurt you,
Speaker 1: I'm not even thinking about you, but you're gonna let
Speaker 1: me go where it. The thing is this you're running
Speaker 1: up and you're not stopping him. You wasn't like this
Speaker 1: walking your dad. You're swinging a stick there like this.
Speaker 1: It's too much to have to analyze because you can't
Speaker 1: get into the minds of these people. But it brings
Speaker 1: me to my thoughts to day, because I was thinking
Speaker 1: that perhaps there needs to be an education when we
Speaker 1: say white supremacy and when we talk about the social
Speaker 1: constructs of you know, racism and white privilege. It seems
Speaker 1: like even though we say it all the time, there
Speaker 1: still needs to be an education that we're not talking
Speaker 1: about individual white people. I think that makes sense. That's
Speaker 1: a good thought to have. Yeah, like perhaps siouness, because
Speaker 1: I still in fact, I wrote on my social media
Speaker 1: when this all first happened, like you said, we all
Speaker 1: met downstairs, um in the living room, and we began
Speaker 1: to watch this craziness that's going on in the news,
Speaker 1: and I immediately ran to pick up my cell phone
Speaker 1: and to tweet out black people stand back and stand
Speaker 1: by today. You don't you don't need to go to work,
Speaker 1: if you live in d C. You don't need to
Speaker 1: be running around town. And definitely Do not go out
Speaker 1: there getting yourself involved in white folks tantrum that they're
Speaker 1: having with the America that has promised them something that
Speaker 1: they feel is slipping out of their palms. Do not
Speaker 1: go out there with that because it's not our fight.
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that there is not a fight that
Speaker 1: we are engaged in every single day, and we don't
Speaker 1: have to fight for our lives. But it is not
Speaker 1: our fight to go and get in the middle of
Speaker 1: white people fighting white people about white privilege. We shouldn't
Speaker 1: be in that. And there were people. One of my
Speaker 1: family members says, she shared it because she knows what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is a accurate and she talks. She got
Speaker 1: a lot of white friends, um, and she said that
Speaker 1: they started calling her and they were very upset because
Speaker 1: they were saying, are you speaking about me and my family?
Speaker 1: And I'm white and I didn't do this, and you
Speaker 1: know why, why are you coming at us like this?
Speaker 1: It's us. It's not saying about you, Becky, this saint
Speaker 1: about you. See the problem with this is that you
Speaker 1: don't want to listen. Because we have to say it
Speaker 1: a million times, We have to continue to clarify when
Speaker 1: we talk about white supremacy. It's not white people. There's
Speaker 1: a white construct. America is built on a construct that white.
Speaker 1: This and any proximity to whiteness is power. It is
Speaker 1: it gives you an opportunity to have justice, to be
Speaker 1: treated like human beings. You watch the officer see an
Speaker 1: old woman, and I wasn't mad at this. There was
Speaker 1: a white officer and this white old lady who had
Speaker 1: just stormed the capital, and he walked her down the stairs.
Speaker 1: He grabbed her hand because he looked at her and
Speaker 1: he's seen humanity. He looked at her and said, this
Speaker 1: is could be my grandmother. And even though I might,
Speaker 1: even though I might not agree with this, or even
Speaker 1: if I do agree with this, I don't want to
Speaker 1: see this old woman who identify as someone that I
Speaker 1: should take care of harm. That's what humanity is. Well,
Speaker 1: what happens to us. You walk into an old woman
Speaker 1: house named deb Danna, who is mentally ill, who is
Speaker 1: sixty seven years old, and she has a pair of scissors,
Speaker 1: and you shoot her two times in her abdomen. You
Speaker 1: know why, because you don't see humanity. White supremacy makes
Speaker 1: you not see the humanity in black people. So it's
Speaker 1: not about white people because black people can participate in
Speaker 1: white supremacy because they are black people who have been
Speaker 1: taught that they are less than. So they so when
Speaker 1: they are around other white people who practice white supremacy,
Speaker 1: they believe in order to move up, they have to
Speaker 1: look down on their own people, they have to look
Speaker 1: at them like they're not human. So don't just take it, Becky.
Speaker 1: It's not about you. That's nothing to do with you,
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's not individually. And if you
Speaker 1: don't identify that your whiteness gives you a lot more privilege,
Speaker 1: it doesn't. It gives you more powerful. Lebron James moved
Speaker 1: into a neighborhood as an almost billionaire and they wrote
Speaker 1: nigga on his home. You don't have to experience that,
Speaker 1: you know why, Because it doesn't matter how much money
Speaker 1: we have, like jay Z said, we are still nigga
Speaker 1: in the eyes of those people who this white supremacist right,
Speaker 1: who live in and and and and The thing is
Speaker 1: when you say it's not about you, Becky, it is
Speaker 1: about individual Becky's. Although we're not saying that every single
Speaker 1: white person agrees with it, and again practices every day
Speaker 1: white person. But every single white person absolutely benefits from
Speaker 1: white privilege. Every single white person benefits from it. And
Speaker 1: if you are not anti racist, I'm not talking about
Speaker 1: being nice. And I have black friends and we all
Speaker 1: cool and I don't go out and hurt people. And
Speaker 1: my daddy didn't have slaves, and my grandfather helped to
Speaker 1: get some of the slaves free at some point. I
Speaker 1: mean this things. I hear the things they were, I listen.
Speaker 1: I I found a document in my house that shows
Speaker 1: that my great grandfather actually helped to get miss Sally free. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's wonderful, But we're talking about you individually, and what
Speaker 1: we're saying is that being anti racist means that you're
Speaker 1: not just a good ally, but that you are also
Speaker 1: an accomplice in this work, and that you are as
Speaker 1: invested to the point where you make daily sacrifices in
Speaker 1: order to ensure that nothing about the privilege that you
Speaker 1: will afforded as a birthright is present in your workplace.
Speaker 1: As a human resources director, as an educator, you have
Speaker 1: to make sure that you literally sacrifice. So that means
Speaker 1: that you might be getting uninvited from the barbecue right
Speaker 1: at your family's house, because when they start talking about
Speaker 1: those niggers, you say, they're not niggers. And I will
Speaker 1: not be here and participate or even here or allow
Speaker 1: any type of conversation that happens around me or my
Speaker 1: children that degrades a group of people. It means that
Speaker 1: your girlfriend who talk down against other black women, or
Speaker 1: you know, make fun of our hair, make friends fun
Speaker 1: of our nose, make fun of the ways in which
Speaker 1: our children look. That you are constant, that you are
Speaker 1: known as a person who draws the line. So just
Speaker 1: going along to get along and being a nice person,
Speaker 1: and you don't do these things to people, and you
Speaker 1: pay folks that work for you properly and you treat
Speaker 1: them nice. That's cool. But we have to actually do
Speaker 1: work that is that is painful, that is sacrificial, and
Speaker 1: that there is a true commitment to helping, to your point,
Speaker 1: dismantle and unravel the systems that you benefit from. So
Speaker 1: it is about Becky, because Becky has to be at
Speaker 1: the table. But we are not talking about you specifically
Speaker 1: when we are speaking about white privilege, white supremacy, and
Speaker 1: and and and what those individuals was all those folks
Speaker 1: somebody said to me, well, they were black and brown
Speaker 1: people out there also, Okay that that may be true.
Speaker 1: We saw we saw a few fools. There's always a fool.
Speaker 1: There was one guy, we've seen him. He was But
Speaker 1: did you notice that. I didn't. You didn't look at
Speaker 1: He looked like he was coming there to see if
Speaker 1: somebody said to make it. I don't know what he
Speaker 1: was doing, but a lot of people said he was
Speaker 1: there to get his people who had the T shirts
Speaker 1: on and said they were for Trump. Um, And you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know how many of them stormed the capital
Speaker 1: and we're doing the things that they would do. But
Speaker 1: I will say no. But but just because they are
Speaker 1: a black person for Trump doesn't mean that they were
Speaker 1: a part of those who committed the crime of going
Speaker 1: inside the capital and doing all those things. So so yeah,
Speaker 1: of course they were. But the majority of people that
Speaker 1: we saw, the majority, the overwhelming majority, we're white people.
Speaker 1: That's just a fact. Like why do people get upset
Speaker 1: when you tell the truth? It is the truth. That
Speaker 1: is so Now, as another white person who sees what
Speaker 1: went on as being bad, right, it's terrible. I can't
Speaker 1: believe this happened. I can't believe Trump. Don't put this
Speaker 1: on Trump by himself. We almost should stop talking about
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's involvement. You can't because you can't separate him
Speaker 1: from the incidet. But to focus on Donald Trump specifically
Speaker 1: and to like put all your focus there and your
Speaker 1: eggs in the Trump basket, it's really you don't have
Speaker 1: a good analysis on what took place because the same behavior,
Speaker 1: the same type of um uh, animalistic behavior that we
Speaker 1: saw take place on that day, the tantrum that was thrown,
Speaker 1: it's it's happens all the time, but it's been happening
Speaker 1: for over four hundred years. Because how the hell you
Speaker 1: think they got us here? How you think that they
Speaker 1: got us on chips? Okay, you think none, none of
Speaker 1: our people tried to fight. How do you think they
Speaker 1: took the Native Americans land? That's exactly how they took it,
Speaker 1: the same way, with the same type of evil intent,
Speaker 1: the same criminal behavior, and they continue to do it.
Speaker 1: And it might not look like climbing up walls, but
Speaker 1: it looks like building walls, and it looks like supporting
Speaker 1: a man who said he was gonna build walls, and
Speaker 1: it looks like building prison walls, and it looks like
Speaker 1: putting products in prison and having prisoners in there making
Speaker 1: your stuff. It looks like it looks like judges locking
Speaker 1: people up, locking black people up for crimes that they
Speaker 1: would never put a white boy in prison for. Okay,
Speaker 1: it looks like a whole lot of things that happens
Speaker 1: in our community. Looks like trapping us in public housing.
Speaker 1: It looks like not properly educating our children. Okay, it
Speaker 1: looks like a whole lot of the stuff that we see.
Speaker 1: It's just at this time we actually got to see
Speaker 1: the animals on the side of the walls. You know,
Speaker 1: I've been talking about the wall. That was the best
Speaker 1: part of my day. How you do it? I call
Speaker 1: him spider Man, you know. But for me, Chuck, when
Speaker 1: you when you understand when you talk about white privilege
Speaker 1: and white supremacy, and if you really don't get it right,
Speaker 1: I want you to just look at these videotapes, right,
Speaker 1: these are white people who are coming to cameras and
Speaker 1: announcing crimes. No, no, just think about it. And they
Speaker 1: came to the camera and said we were we were storming.
Speaker 1: She said, I was storming in the capitol. Like what
Speaker 1: kind of stupid questions? One guy was told how they
Speaker 1: broke the windows. He had blood on his hands and
Speaker 1: he was explaining it, and I'm just sitting mere saying
Speaker 1: what the hell is going on? Meanwhile, on a serious note,
Speaker 1: we know people died, which is awful. People were killed.
Speaker 1: Let's just say people were murdered. Okay, so we know that,
Speaker 1: so that's bad. But there were also congressional members and
Speaker 1: staff members with families locked in their offices. My friend's father,
Speaker 1: Because I don't know what he has said publicly, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to mention his name, but my friend's father
Speaker 1: was barricaded in his office with his staff and did
Speaker 1: not know if that if this was the end of
Speaker 1: their lives. They had no idea what these people were doing.
Speaker 1: This was some really really serious stuff. And the fact
Speaker 1: that they did not because guess what. We have been arrested,
Speaker 1: and several of our people have been arrested in sweeps
Speaker 1: right where when the police come out, they surround the
Speaker 1: entire corridor in a way that there's no you can't
Speaker 1: go anywhere, you can't get out. So if you're in
Speaker 1: the middle, and you know that, you know, we tell
Speaker 1: people and I organizing all the time. At a certain
Speaker 1: point within this protest, if you are not trying to
Speaker 1: get arrested. When they start saying certain things or moving
Speaker 1: certain ways, it is time for you to get out
Speaker 1: of the perimeter because at that point you're gonna get
Speaker 1: swept up. So when so my thing is the brothers
Speaker 1: and sisters or people people. These people was on top
Speaker 1: of buildings. By the time they got down, they should
Speaker 1: have been getting arrested. It should have been a sweep
Speaker 1: and they should have put those orange with's the orange
Speaker 1: things that they bring out. Don't get us started. What's
Speaker 1: the orange barricades? The little barricade, old plastic barricades where
Speaker 1: they take it and wrap it around an entire group
Speaker 1: of people a bunch of times, you know, And it's
Speaker 1: just because, like I said, they were working with them.
Speaker 1: Now you realize that they were actually working with the police.
Speaker 1: They opened the barricades, they walked them in. You've seen
Speaker 1: them walk the lady down. So there was a joint effort.
Speaker 1: There was an organized effort for these people to work together.
Speaker 1: And the privilege in that the privilege, like I watched
Speaker 1: numerous people walk to the camera. This man had Nancy
Speaker 1: Pelosi's mail. Another serious like like black people know when
Speaker 1: we commit the crime, we ain't taking it. We're running
Speaker 1: front of you. Jojo would be like Jojo would have
Speaker 1: been like, actually probably wanted to Nah, that's that's a
Speaker 1: big listen. That's another episode. But they are Actually we've
Speaker 1: talked about it before on politicians. Some it may look different, mind,
Speaker 1: but some of us they get away shown and they're
Speaker 1: showing the money that they we're getting away because you
Speaker 1: you swiping with somebody else's credit card with your face
Speaker 1: on the camera at the GUCI. I mean, it's not smart.
Speaker 1: We do the same that you just walk you standing
Speaker 1: on the Capitol steps and yeah, we just stoing the steps.
Speaker 1: It's a revolution. We were knocked out the windows and
Speaker 1: we're coming back. We're taking over our country and with it.
Speaker 1: Victoria Panel, one of our young mentors. Men, she's a
Speaker 1: she's a mentee. Excuse me, but shoot, Victoria's is a
Speaker 1: leader in her own right. Um. She had her tweet
Speaker 1: that she uh tweeted the other day that said, you're
Speaker 1: asking the question, why haven't the cops shot these people
Speaker 1: who they're not gonna shoot me? Ma and Paul Paul
Speaker 1: like these are people that they know, and like you said,
Speaker 1: they see themselves in these individuals. They know for sure
Speaker 1: that there were law enforcement officers mixed in. I just
Speaker 1: I was debating someone who tried to tell me or
Speaker 1: these a trailer park. People know the woman who was killed,
Speaker 1: she was worked for the air Force, not the airport,
Speaker 1: the air Force. These people are influential, They sit in
Speaker 1: high positions. And the fact that some of us still
Speaker 1: believe that they are just trail apart trash folks. They
Speaker 1: you know which I listen. I have family members that
Speaker 1: live in the trailer park and they're not trash. But
Speaker 1: that's the language that is you sometimes to describe certain
Speaker 1: types of people. They are not trail apart folks. They
Speaker 1: work in schools, they are on board, they are doctors,
Speaker 1: they are lawyers, they are police officers. So we need
Speaker 1: to It's it's like it's almost like we're punch drunk,
Speaker 1: like we still keep having the same conversation. And that's
Speaker 1: exactly what the streets are talking. It's called domestic terrorists.
Speaker 1: That's what it is. It's home grown terrorists. America has
Speaker 1: an America problem. You don't have nobody else America, and
Speaker 1: they're talking about the American problem. When Joe Biden said
Speaker 1: this is not America, he was lying. America is not
Speaker 1: better than this, Joe body, this is what America has been.
Speaker 1: And we're glad that you actually can see it because
Speaker 1: this is what we've been telling you America has been
Speaker 1: for years. Welcome like you said that the Women's March,
Speaker 1: Welcome to our work. You know, this is what this
Speaker 1: is what we've been experienced for our whole lives. America
Speaker 1: has has looted Native American America looted us what we got, like,
Speaker 1: this is what America is. So when Joe Biden made
Speaker 1: that speech and and everybody said, no, no, no, Joe,
Speaker 1: jojo Jo Jo Jojo, no, no, no, this is exactly
Speaker 1: who America is. And we've known that and it's sad
Speaker 1: that we actually have to see it in this and
Speaker 1: you know, in three D and my children are watching.
Speaker 1: But the thing is change is gonna come. We are
Speaker 1: at the stage right now with change definitely has to happen,
Speaker 1: you know, so hopefully Joe Biden, Joe Biden, excuse me,
Speaker 1: he said, sometimes he says things, and then he said,
Speaker 1: you know, if this had been Black Lives Matter, you know,
Speaker 1: they would have been police differently. But you know, but
Speaker 1: the reason why he scares me is because the moment
Speaker 1: that Joe Biden is in and the responsibility that he
Speaker 1: has right like, the order of the day is justice
Speaker 1: and equality. We say equity, which is even more important.
Speaker 1: In order to address those issues, you have to be
Speaker 1: prepared for this moment. You gotta be ready to get
Speaker 1: in the ring and know who, first of all, your
Speaker 1: opponent is. These people are not our friends. He keeps
Speaker 1: saying over and over there we and us. It's no
Speaker 1: we and us. It needs to be an identification at
Speaker 1: this point that there is a line of demarcation between us,
Speaker 1: and let me finish understand what I'm saying. Then you
Speaker 1: could take it. It's not no we and I get it.
Speaker 1: You keep talking about this middle of the road thing.
Speaker 1: But for you to stand before America and make the
Speaker 1: same state and the statement that if it had been
Speaker 1: black people it would have been done differently, that means
Speaker 1: you have some knowledge of history and what happens to us,
Speaker 1: and then stand there and try to say this is
Speaker 1: not America, this is not who we are. And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that he should get up there and be like,
Speaker 1: this is exactly who we are, but maybe just leave
Speaker 1: that out because it's actually offensive and It's scary because
Speaker 1: it tells me that you may not understand what you
Speaker 1: are up against. Right now, Okay, this is this is
Speaker 1: this is actually the soil of the nation. What I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say is this, I think he understands exactly
Speaker 1: what he's up against, and I think that he's running
Speaker 1: the system and the structure that is racist. In the
Speaker 1: bottom line, and it is core America is racist. Right,
Speaker 1: So to be to say that I'm going to take
Speaker 1: over the reins of America means that I have to
Speaker 1: acknowledge the racism and participate to a certain degree. Every
Speaker 1: now and then I get an opportunity to where I
Speaker 1: can shoot some men to let you know that I
Speaker 1: get it. But I still want my job, right, I
Speaker 1: want my job because but that's the bottom line. We
Speaker 1: we were asking America to change who it is, right,
Speaker 1: We're asking a president. We voting the president. There's no president.
Speaker 1: We watched Obama sit up there. He couldn't say half
Speaker 1: the ship that Joe Biden could say, right, he couldn't
Speaker 1: say that. He couldn't say it because he understood the
Speaker 1: black list. For me saying I black, this would have
Speaker 1: been black people. They would have tried to kill me.
Speaker 1: But he didn't say that he was. He was very
Speaker 1: going on next time, very lightly tread you and I
Speaker 1: are not about to get into this debate today. President.
Speaker 1: The one thing President Obama did, if he didn't do
Speaker 1: anything else, he said some ship. While he was the president,
Speaker 1: he made some of the most impactful speeches he always
Speaker 1: made any president, saying he identified and said when he
Speaker 1: stood up and said that Trayvon Martin could have been
Speaker 1: my son, that changed the entire way you listened to me.
Speaker 1: Tradevonmart could have been my son. Of course you're a
Speaker 1: black man. They but listen, what I'm trying to tell
Speaker 1: you is Trayvon Nobody called for the rest of the
Speaker 1: people that killed Trayvonmon, right, because that's but no, listen
Speaker 1: to me when when when Joe Biden said and said
Speaker 1: the people will happen to Brianna Taylor was wrong and
Speaker 1: people should be held accountable. Right, What I'm trying to
Speaker 1: say Obama has never said that he the most he
Speaker 1: said about that because I was the most he said
Speaker 1: that he could have been my son. There was no
Speaker 1: time that he called for accountability for those acts, all
Speaker 1: those black people that got killed, even Mike Brown He
Speaker 1: always said, you know, it's a bad situation. He need
Speaker 1: let the system do it. Exactly. He has always that
Speaker 1: the system a job in truest in the process and
Speaker 1: should just be clear. Let's just be clear, we're in
Speaker 1: a different time. What I'm saying takes. It takes the
Speaker 1: statements that Obama made in order to give Biden the
Speaker 1: ability to go even further. I'm not saying my statement
Speaker 1: was never to discredit Barack Obama. My statement was to
Speaker 1: acknowledge that Obama understood his position. I don't gotta Obama
Speaker 1: because I love Obama too, but you understood It's just
Speaker 1: like what your what M Jay Cole said. You know,
Speaker 1: they gave the man the um the ship and didn't
Speaker 1: tell him he couldn't do nothing with it. They tell
Speaker 1: him they made him the um, the captain of the ship,
Speaker 1: but didn't tell him that it was it was no
Speaker 1: way to navigate it. So the bottom line is he
Speaker 1: understood the position he was in. Joe Biden is in
Speaker 1: a different position. He can say something here and then
Speaker 1: throw it in, but ultimately he understand that we've run
Speaker 1: America is a capitalist, racist, white supremacist organization. Is an organization.
Speaker 1: It ain't even it's an organization and he understands what
Speaker 1: he's dealing with. So we gotta we gotta, we gotta
Speaker 1: politely but sternly make him do the ship that we
Speaker 1: need him to do. I don't know about so much polite, politely,
Speaker 1: respect respectfully and stern So you know, I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm extremely critical, especially if old white man. I'm definitely
Speaker 1: gonna be critical that to bottom line, people could say
Speaker 1: whatever they want, but I will say especially I saw
Speaker 1: my my, my, my girl, someone who I support so
Speaker 1: much get appointed over the Civil Rights Division of the
Speaker 1: Department of Justice, Um Kristin Clark, and uh, it's it's
Speaker 1: a diverse cabinet. I want to see more black men
Speaker 1: put in positions of power. I would like to see
Speaker 1: a black man be the head of edge of the
Speaker 1: Secretary of Education. I would really like to see that
Speaker 1: because I know the challenge that our young black boys
Speaker 1: have and I think it's a strong black man who
Speaker 1: has worked in public education to go in and really
Speaker 1: help to, you know, bring our kids up and get
Speaker 1: our kids excited about learning. As I want to see
Speaker 1: more more black men. It does not mean okay, because
Speaker 1: you know, Gary Chambers our boy who's running for congress
Speaker 1: in UH in Louisiana and bat Rouge, Louisiana. He has
Speaker 1: made some that we've had Gary on the show. He's made,
Speaker 1: you know, statements about seeing that boy he had. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's made statements about seeing more black men in UH,
Speaker 1: in the cabinet um and in positions of leadership within
Speaker 1: the administration. And people get so upset, like, oh, so
Speaker 1: are you saying that you don't believe in and you
Speaker 1: don't support the black women's lee Merit I was watching
Speaker 1: on social media the other day he said he wanted
Speaker 1: to see a black man, particularly Ben Crump, to become
Speaker 1: the solicitor General, which is a person who goes out
Speaker 1: and actually argues cases before the government. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: and and and people were like, oh, you know, what
Speaker 1: are you trying to say that you don't believe in
Speaker 1: black women. It's not that we're saying if black people
Speaker 1: put you in in office, then maybe you should not
Speaker 1: make as many appointments for white people to be the
Speaker 1: director and have the black and brown people being the
Speaker 1: deputy and the deputy deputy and associate deputy and all
Speaker 1: of that, and move some of them white folks flipped
Speaker 1: the table, if that's and then put some black men
Speaker 1: in there as well. But you're not gonna get everything
Speaker 1: you want. And you do see the diversity. You do
Speaker 1: see women being put in very serious positions of power,
Speaker 1: and I'm excited to see where this goes. But I
Speaker 1: also know that the work that will have to do
Speaker 1: to ensure that we pushed them all because everybody, when
Speaker 1: you go inside of a corrupt system and there has
Speaker 1: not been an overhaul of that system, people get a
Speaker 1: little comfortable. People get afraid. They get afraid to speak
Speaker 1: out as much as they did when they were out
Speaker 1: here protesting with us. Look at Build the Blasio, the
Speaker 1: mayor of New York City. I don't know what the
Speaker 1: hell happened to him. We used to be protesting together.
Speaker 1: He was talking big ship and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened to Build the Blasio. So
Speaker 1: you know, we have to fight and structure. It's easy,
Speaker 1: like I tell people all the time, it's easy to,
Speaker 1: you know, criticize the system from outside and say what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do, But when you askally, you got the
Speaker 1: man with the gun anyway, you don't cut me off.
Speaker 1: Some peop go back. So listen. What I was saying
Speaker 1: was before I was interrupted a game, right that when
Speaker 1: you get into the structure that is not meant for you,
Speaker 1: it is very hard to change it. So this administration,
Speaker 1: m hm, the next administration, none of these administrations are
Speaker 1: going to do everything needed to give black people power
Speaker 1: in equity in this country. We have to utilize this administration.
Speaker 1: We have to utilize every piece that we have. We
Speaker 1: have people inside and like we said, representation doesn't always
Speaker 1: mean that it's the best for us, but representation gives
Speaker 1: us the opportunity and a better chance. Speaking of representation
Speaker 1: in Georgia, we just want two important Senate seats. Reverend
Speaker 1: Raphael Warnock, who is a dear friend of mine, and
Speaker 1: John Osoft have been able to be too incumbents, which
Speaker 1: is very difficult to do, and incumbents with a lot
Speaker 1: out of money, which is very difficult to do. And
Speaker 1: one of them's last name is Perdue. And I never
Speaker 1: did take the time to go back and look at
Speaker 1: why his name is Perdue. Is he part of the
Speaker 1: Perdue family? I don't know, but he probably is um
Speaker 1: And you know it feels good you are a part
Speaker 1: of it. A little bit. Anyway, we're going to bring
Speaker 1: our next guests right now. I'm super dupereruper duper. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's excited about who we will be
Speaker 1: hearing from today on Street Politicians. We have some good guests.
Speaker 1: We always have a good guests things always. Before we
Speaker 1: go to the next segment and have our special guests joint,
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Speaker 1: the everything is number one. We're number one, so you
Speaker 1: know we're speaking it into existence. And our guests now
Speaker 1: is someone who, Um, you know, I will not get
Speaker 1: into the personal story that I tell everybody. I probably
Speaker 1: tell a story so much that you know at this
Speaker 1: point most people already know. But at a real dark
Speaker 1: time in my life, UM, this woman stood up and
Speaker 1: stood next to me and you know, didn't judge me
Speaker 1: and supported me and helped me financially, which is really
Speaker 1: really important. UM. And you know she went on to
Speaker 1: be such a good friend to all of us. She
Speaker 1: invited us until freedom at the very very beginning into
Speaker 1: her home helped us to get organized to also find
Speaker 1: ourselves as for co founders trying to come together and
Speaker 1: be a strong group. Uh you so many of her skills,
Speaker 1: her staff, and and just poured into us so much
Speaker 1: that eventually we asked her to be chairwoman of Until Freedom,
Speaker 1: in which she has taken that on um as a
Speaker 1: very serious, serious job. And the care that she's taken
Speaker 1: specifically for Until Freedom is because she clearly cares about
Speaker 1: the work and the people and kids about what we're doing.
Speaker 1: And so UM, having Monique Idlet to come and join
Speaker 1: us today on Street Politicians, to me is a great honor.
Speaker 1: I'm proud to have her to be in the presence
Speaker 1: of such awesomeness greatness Monique, I miss you both. I
Speaker 1: can't wait to see you. Yeah, Mika, I need that
Speaker 1: intro everywhere I go, take me on the road. So
Speaker 1: it's such an honor, honestly, Um, you know, to be
Speaker 1: here with the two of you, to to see everything
Speaker 1: that you all are doing, but then to see that
Speaker 1: you get to actually sit down for a moment and
Speaker 1: then have a conversation UM, to help continue the education
Speaker 1: to people. It's just it's such a blessing. It's so amazing.
Speaker 1: And then you invited little on me on Yeah, little
Speaker 1: old years, a little old about Monique. She is a
Speaker 1: wealth builder, she is an entrepreneur, she is a visionary.
Speaker 1: She sits on the boards of fortune companies. She just
Speaker 1: does so many things that we can't It's extensive with
Speaker 1: the person she is is even bigger than that. So
Speaker 1: when you talk about little old you, we're just trying
Speaker 1: to We're just trying to We're trying to be like,
Speaker 1: get to where you is. So there's so much that
Speaker 1: we could talk about today. You know, we call you
Speaker 1: mo um and and most of the people who love
Speaker 1: you call you MO. There's so much that we could
Speaker 1: talk about Um. It's it's almost hard to find the
Speaker 1: place to begin, because we could go back and talk
Speaker 1: about your career in the music industry and how you
Speaker 1: were able to build an empire and then to unite
Speaker 1: with another very strong man within the industry, your ex husband,
Speaker 1: Tim Berland, who is your friend, a very good friend.
Speaker 1: I watched the way that the two of you co parent,
Speaker 1: and it's amazing to see the beauty of black love
Speaker 1: that continues beyond marriage, beyond relationships. UM, but you you
Speaker 1: helped him to build his empire. UM, you built your own.
Speaker 1: So many people like Jimmy Iveen and others have you
Speaker 1: to be grateful to for your work, your work ethic,
Speaker 1: your tenacity. UM. Knowing that you went on to say, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm going to take my wealth and find a way
Speaker 1: to help other people, particularly black folks, brown folks, and
Speaker 1: women become wealthy, and that being your new career. Knowing
Speaker 1: that at one point you worked at USA today as
Speaker 1: a leading executive. I mean, there's so much that we
Speaker 1: could talk about that this show. I don't even know
Speaker 1: that we have the time and space. But the most
Speaker 1: recent thing that you did, um is what me speaks
Speaker 1: to your character and the uniqueness of a black woman
Speaker 1: who has been counted out. We have been counted out
Speaker 1: so many times by everyone. I think that when this
Speaker 1: when Discovery Channel, I don't care what you say, I'm
Speaker 1: saying this that when Discovery Channel asked you to be
Speaker 1: a part of a participant on Undercover Billionaires, I'm sure
Speaker 1: they put the one hundred dollars in your hand just
Speaker 1: being just knowing you would not be able to do it.
Speaker 1: I know there's some people there that probably were rooting
Speaker 1: for you, but there were some who said, we're giving
Speaker 1: you a hundred dollars to go out and build a
Speaker 1: million dollar business, and they didn't believe that you could
Speaker 1: actually accomplish it. And now we're watching the success story
Speaker 1: because we knew that you. If no one else could
Speaker 1: do it, if no one else could do it, Monique
Speaker 1: could do it. Well, you know, I'll tell you Discovery
Speaker 1: has actually been so they've been super super are supportive
Speaker 1: um and really they actually wanted inclusion and diversity because
Speaker 1: they know it matters, It actually matters. It is the difference.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't you can't actually talk about change
Speaker 1: and impact and inclusion if you're not actually showing it
Speaker 1: and helping your audience experience it. And so for them
Speaker 1: it was important. For me, it's important. I'll tell you,
Speaker 1: I think that this was the most difficult thing that
Speaker 1: I have ever ever done. And from day one, before
Speaker 1: I stepped into that city, before I knew where I
Speaker 1: was going, I had one mission, and that was to
Speaker 1: represent black and brown people so that we could actually
Speaker 1: know and that others could know that we're more than
Speaker 1: just you know, an athlete and entertainer. We're business too,
Speaker 1: we're human beings. And for me, that narrative was so important.
Speaker 1: And then I just wanted to represent the underdog. And
Speaker 1: then came I got to represent Tacoma because I fell
Speaker 1: in love with that city. So you went to Tacoma, Washington.
Speaker 1: Tell us more about what happened. What is undercover Billionaire
Speaker 1: for those people who are watching that don't understand what
Speaker 1: you just went through. The worst thing I ever did
Speaker 1: in my life, the most catfult thing I went in
Speaker 1: my life. But the challenge itself was this. They can
Speaker 1: take They take your identity, so they give you a
Speaker 1: fake name alias. They give you a hundred dollars. You're
Speaker 1: allowed to bring one bag of clothes. Um, they take
Speaker 1: your cell phone, they take your computer, they take everything
Speaker 1: your they take your credit card, they take everything, literally
Speaker 1: everything Like they went through my bag to make sure
Speaker 1: I didn't have anything like that was crazy to me. Um,
Speaker 1: they take everything, they take and they give you a
Speaker 1: one dollar bill, They give you a used vehicle, and
Speaker 1: they give you a new cell phone with no contacts
Speaker 1: and so both of you know me. Well, I live
Speaker 1: for my relationships like that is that is how I
Speaker 1: built my career. I believe in it. Relationship networking to
Speaker 1: me is the most important thing, and they took all
Speaker 1: of that from me, and then they dropped me into
Speaker 1: a city that I didn't know where I was going
Speaker 1: and they said, you have ninety days to build a
Speaker 1: million dollar business with. So you are the first black
Speaker 1: woman to ever person period one the network. So on
Speaker 1: this show there have not been other black black women. Well,
Speaker 1: so this is only second season, only second season. Um.
Speaker 1: Glenn Sterns who he is just honestly the most amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he truly is. He has a heart for people and
Speaker 1: everyone understanding each other and understanding that there are different
Speaker 1: journeys and different experiences and we have to understand them all.
Speaker 1: So he created this show, actually has a bet that
Speaker 1: he could be stripped of everything as a self made billionaire,
Speaker 1: and he was the first one to do it. He
Speaker 1: actually got super sick during filming, but he finished it, Um,
Speaker 1: And this is you know, for him, it's about building
Speaker 1: up the underdog cities and helping people understand that. You
Speaker 1: know the concept of community and we all know that
Speaker 1: very well, right like we we as black people, we
Speaker 1: rely on our community, UM for support, and so it's
Speaker 1: he took that concept. He did it first, and then
Speaker 1: this is only the second season. So the second season
Speaker 1: they have this brilliant black woman. You go to Tacoma, Washington,
Speaker 1: where we just found out black people live. I didn't
Speaker 1: even know they have a black mayor they have a
Speaker 1: black I had no idea. So you go there, and
Speaker 1: now it's important not for bragging, although I like to
Speaker 1: brag on you, um, but for context that you live
Speaker 1: very very well. I think you're in your home right now,
Speaker 1: so people can just see a little bit with the
Speaker 1: couch that's behind you. So what kind of building businesses
Speaker 1: you build? So I'll say this because I can't tell everything,
Speaker 1: tune in, tune and tune in, but if you watch
Speaker 1: the first episode, you will see quickly literally really like
Speaker 1: the second day, I'm like, you know what access to
Speaker 1: to health like healthy options and healthier options. It's a
Speaker 1: human right. And we've allowed marketing and you know, the
Speaker 1: constant of the idea of quick inconvenience to be over
Speaker 1: to like where it shouldn't be healthy, And so literally
Speaker 1: immediately I had an instant idea of I'm going to
Speaker 1: start with some healthy juice shots. It's been years since
Speaker 1: you had to grind like that from the bottom, from
Speaker 1: the bottom, like bottom bottom. When you think about what
Speaker 1: you went through, do you appreciate it? Does it make
Speaker 1: you that think about where you are now actually in
Speaker 1: your real life with pose and where you was, do
Speaker 1: you really appreciate it more more? I'll say this, and
Speaker 1: both of you know me, Well, Um, the grind has
Speaker 1: never stopped from me. And that's just a fact. I
Speaker 1: never was. I never not at USA today, not creating
Speaker 1: my own company, not building a label with Tim, not
Speaker 1: know doing this stuff on empire, to owning my own sex.
Speaker 1: I forgot about that. I always pivoted and did those
Speaker 1: things so I could learn more, so I could actually
Speaker 1: help our culture. Yeah, but you didn't have to do
Speaker 1: it with a hundred dollars living in Tacoma, Washington. But
Speaker 1: that's the whole point is is that I did that
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, if not me,
Speaker 1: who who who is our people? Who are people gonna
Speaker 1: identify with? So did you did you take this as
Speaker 1: a personal you know, challenge because you wanted to really
Speaker 1: represent black people, black women? Did you really see to yourself,
Speaker 1: this has never happened before. They haven't had any black
Speaker 1: people I know I'm gonna be first. Did you accept
Speaker 1: in your mind? Because I know how you are. You
Speaker 1: challenge yourself and you I challenge myself all the time
Speaker 1: all the time, so I know for you, was it like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to be the first. It's
Speaker 1: no way that I could fail. So it was really
Speaker 1: it was really really deep for me, Like I actually
Speaker 1: said no, um. And then January February March April, may
Speaker 1: like think about that. And then we had all that
Speaker 1: stuff happening. We had all of the murders that were happening,
Speaker 1: um to our black men, to our Brianna Taylor, and
Speaker 1: it was like dang. And then I was delivering food
Speaker 1: to our elders in in you know, our communities, and
Speaker 1: the grocery stores weren't open or they didn't have the
Speaker 1: same access for delivery or fresh food. And I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, this is crazy, this is super crazy.
Speaker 1: We need we need some inspiration. If it takes me
Speaker 1: to sacrifice to help our people with a new mindset,
Speaker 1: it's a mindset for me. I was willing to literally,
Speaker 1: like real talk, I've never left my family like this before.
Speaker 1: It was a pandemic that was real. I was like
Speaker 1: every day out in those streets in Tacoma during a pandemic,
Speaker 1: where before that I was at home comfortably. I was
Speaker 1: coming in my pool every day, doing my zoom meetings
Speaker 1: from living room, you know. Um. So at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, it was real to me, it was
Speaker 1: super real. Feeling was not an option. Did you almost
Speaker 1: did you get to a point where you was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm quit, I'm going home. I'm tired
Speaker 1: of the day. One one I called my mom crying,
Speaker 1: like what did I just sign up for? Not your
Speaker 1: mother though, let me tell you, Moniques mother has prayed
Speaker 1: me through my mom stroke. She's prayed me through some
Speaker 1: other mental breakdowns that I almost had. She is such
Speaker 1: a powerful person, and your mom the way I see
Speaker 1: her as someone who will not allow you and your
Speaker 1: sister Shaquira, who we love um so much to fail
Speaker 1: at all, Like it's almost like you can't She's like
Speaker 1: my mom. You can't really call them saying I can't
Speaker 1: do it or I won't do it, because they become
Speaker 1: invested in the same thing that you're invested in the
Speaker 1: history behind it and just knowing that a woman can
Speaker 1: do anything that anyone else can do. I need you
Speaker 1: out to watch this because literally everything you're saying is
Speaker 1: exactly what she said to me. And I even there's
Speaker 1: a quote in there that I'm and I'm talking to
Speaker 1: rain and I say it to her. I'm doing this
Speaker 1: so you know that you can do anything you want
Speaker 1: to do. It's not about you know. My mother always
Speaker 1: taught me, it's not where we are, it's where you
Speaker 1: want to be. I've never used my circumstances. I grew
Speaker 1: up in the projects, but for me, I was on
Speaker 1: top of the world because I was gonna be on
Speaker 1: top of the world. I want my daughter to know that.
Speaker 1: I want your kids to know that. I want all
Speaker 1: of our people to know we're not our circumstances. That's
Speaker 1: why mental health is real. It starts with fine. Well,
Speaker 1: speaking of mental health, in the last few days, we've
Speaker 1: learned that there was a mental health breakdown that happened
Speaker 1: among some of the seventy three million people voted for
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, mainly white folks. There was some of our
Speaker 1: own folks out there. I saw a few who were
Speaker 1: mixed in who really you know, the mental health issue
Speaker 1: that they are dealing with. I believe the diagnosis is
Speaker 1: white supremacy, that white supremacy is a sickness. It's a
Speaker 1: mental health sickness that has to be cured. UM. And unfortunately,
Speaker 1: and I know you and I have discussed this, it
Speaker 1: almost is is if what is happening in this moment,
Speaker 1: this meltdown, has to happen in order for us to
Speaker 1: be able to get to a place where we have
Speaker 1: true equity and justice and all the things that we've
Speaker 1: been fighting for. And that even though it's painful and
Speaker 1: it looks crazy and it's scary, and people are dying.
Speaker 1: People died in the Capital building, UM, because of all
Speaker 1: of the chaos that took place there. But it's almost
Speaker 1: like just like many of our struggles, even though I
Speaker 1: don't know what they're struggling for, but that's a whole
Speaker 1: different days conversation. UM. People have died, right, people had,
Speaker 1: There have been casualties. They are at war, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: with themselves. It's not our fight. There are many that
Speaker 1: are that many things that we do have to fight,
Speaker 1: and we are collateral damage. Every time America gets in
Speaker 1: trouble with this self or anyone else, Black and brown
Speaker 1: people suffer. But there is no reason for us to
Speaker 1: run to the streets to be a part of this
Speaker 1: war that white folks are in with other white people
Speaker 1: because they're all trying to fight for supremacy to hold
Speaker 1: true and black people have begun to recognize our power.
Speaker 1: That's right. You know, Dan rather Um made a very
Speaker 1: important statement for media today. And you know, journalism is
Speaker 1: a real thing. The words that they use are it
Speaker 1: can determine how someone perceives that. And I actually was
Speaker 1: really honored that he actually said, stop calling this protesting.
Speaker 1: Stop it. We have an accountability And that's an g
Speaker 1: saying it because he knew, he knew he needed to
Speaker 1: say that because these are not protests, these are terrorists.
Speaker 1: And you know they want to talk about We couldn't
Speaker 1: say black lives matter because all lives matter and blue
Speaker 1: lives matter. Yet they were out there killing, killing those cops.
Speaker 1: Let's just be honest. You all know, it takes a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot to organize. That wasn't That wasn't
Speaker 1: organized that, okay. And the fact that the fact that
Speaker 1: they were able to penetrate a federal building like that,
Speaker 1: they allowed them to. They were allowed to that was
Speaker 1: part of the organization, understand exactly because they somebody organized
Speaker 1: that they will allow them to have access. If you
Speaker 1: look their films, you know a lot of different clips
Speaker 1: where you see the police saying, come on, come through,
Speaker 1: opening the gate for them to come through. So, you know,
Speaker 1: we realized, and it's just sad that it takes other
Speaker 1: people so long to realize and people are starting to
Speaker 1: visually see things, and you know, you can't continue to
Speaker 1: just act like it's not happening anymore. You know, we're we're,
Speaker 1: like Tamika said, we are definitely in a state of emergency.
Speaker 1: And you know, and as we awaken, when you look
Speaker 1: at the Georgia race and you look at what we've done,
Speaker 1: how we've come together, you know, to make sure that
Speaker 1: we've elected um senators that give this presidency and this
Speaker 1: cabinet opportunity to actually pass some legislation that is gonna
Speaker 1: benefit us. You know, they're seeing that we are what
Speaker 1: we are seeing our power every day because we've been
Speaker 1: taught for so long you don't have a power. Your
Speaker 1: vote doesn't count. What are you doing that for? You
Speaker 1: don't count because and what we realize is if I
Speaker 1: don't vote didn't count, they wouldn't do so much to
Speaker 1: try to suppress it. So we've come to the point
Speaker 1: now where we see our power and they are so
Speaker 1: afraid of us coming into that power. And I wrote
Speaker 1: them on social media other day and I let you
Speaker 1: speak that America has lied to us for so long.
Speaker 1: They've told you that you don't matter. And this is
Speaker 1: what this is. You know, these these quote unquote protests
Speaker 1: as a patriots, which we know are terrorists, are only
Speaker 1: acting because America promised them that white supremacy will always rule,
Speaker 1: you know, and when they and when they see now
Speaker 1: that that is a lie, they are protesting America for
Speaker 1: lying to them. So let them deal with America because
Speaker 1: we never believe that anyway. You know everything that you
Speaker 1: both are saying, And yes to Mika, I loved your
Speaker 1: your statement, and then I love what you said today
Speaker 1: Mice earlier on your social media. The reality is that
Speaker 1: this is a perfect opportunity for, first of all, for
Speaker 1: us to take a step back and allow them to
Speaker 1: behave in the way that they have always behaved with us.
Speaker 1: This whole nation was built by oppressive people, like literally
Speaker 1: like they oppressed us. It was slavery that built this
Speaker 1: like because never have been a good nation. But literally,
Speaker 1: and so the point is that let them. They are
Speaker 1: out there acting a fool on the airplanes and the like.
Speaker 1: They're out of control. And the point is they don't
Speaker 1: even know why. That's the crazy. When they're being interviewed,
Speaker 1: they actually do not even know why. They cannot say
Speaker 1: because people are getting murdered, because you know, they're losing,
Speaker 1: they're not saying anything. They don't even know. All they
Speaker 1: know is that in the end um First of all,
Speaker 1: they're losing their numbers. Their race is decreasing, right, so
Speaker 1: they're having three, four or five babies, trying to ensure
Speaker 1: that white people don't become the minority. But yet and
Speaker 1: still Latinos are quickly becoming the majority. Latinos black and
Speaker 1: brown people. Um, as they say, the country is browning.
Speaker 1: And so that's the first thing is that there is
Speaker 1: a fit. It's a literal fit that's taking place as
Speaker 1: they see their numbers decreasing and feel that they're going
Speaker 1: to lose power. I think it was a bad move
Speaker 1: for them to allow Donald Trump to be president. Not
Speaker 1: that they haven't had racist tyrants in office in the past,
Speaker 1: but they allowed their president to go forth in showing
Speaker 1: us how deeply corrupt and racist this nation is and
Speaker 1: as black folks always do, we respond when our backs
Speaker 1: are up against the wall. And so they allowed Donald
Speaker 1: Trump to go so far for these last four years
Speaker 1: that now the bag, the cat is out the bag,
Speaker 1: the sheet is off the head right, and so we
Speaker 1: see it so clear that people said, Okay, I don't
Speaker 1: even believe. I don't believe in Joe Biden and Kamala
Speaker 1: Harris that much. It's beautiful to see a black woman, um,
Speaker 1: you know, as the VP all those things, but I'm
Speaker 1: not that excited yet. And still my vote against Donald
Speaker 1: Trump is extremely important. And they lost what they believe,
Speaker 1: what they proceed to be power in their minds in
Speaker 1: the last few weeks and it literally has drove them crazy.
Speaker 1: And you spoke about Dan rather than because you, um
Speaker 1: were executive at USA today, Let's talk about how the
Speaker 1: media is covering this incident. Now, it started out that
Speaker 1: they were so upset, Oh my god, we can't believe
Speaker 1: that these things are happening. But as soon as Joe
Speaker 1: Biden stood before the country and said, if this had
Speaker 1: been a Black Lives Matter protests, I know that they
Speaker 1: would have been treated differently. Black people would have been
Speaker 1: treated differently. Than those white folds. I watched the entire
Speaker 1: news cycle shift to people being very uncomfortable. But why
Speaker 1: does he have to be divisive? These folks don't like truth,
Speaker 1: and the media is playing a role in encouraging these
Speaker 1: people and they don't don't think that they are, but
Speaker 1: they're actually a part of the process. I believe that
Speaker 1: all the whole circle we have to fill up with
Speaker 1: equity and equality, not just the the civil rights, not
Speaker 1: just the political side. Financially too. And when we actually
Speaker 1: have a bigger stake financially and we build more successful
Speaker 1: companies and stopped building the Louis Batton so to speak,
Speaker 1: of the world, and we start building, then we build
Speaker 1: bigger media companies, we have more impact. You know, we
Speaker 1: have to start building our wealth. We have to wealth
Speaker 1: is wealth is what runs everything is what runs everything.
Speaker 1: You know, the media can say what they want to
Speaker 1: say because it's look who's yes, and so, you know,
Speaker 1: all of these areas are important, and we do we
Speaker 1: have to make media more accountable. I loved what Charlemagne
Speaker 1: and then did this morning on the Breakfast Club. They
Speaker 1: literally said, oh, the FBI needs help. That's weird because
Speaker 1: all we had to do was Google, well and go
Speaker 1: straight and here. So here's all the names FBI. Right.
Speaker 1: So the reality is that instead of being quiet about it,
Speaker 1: we have to put it out there and we the
Speaker 1: only way to do that is through media. That's why
Speaker 1: like this is important, and you know all the other things. Well,
Speaker 1: you know we like we always do, we sit for
Speaker 1: hours talk about we could do this for hours. Unfortunately
Speaker 1: this show is not that long and they can't even
Speaker 1: take all of the you know, we can give each other.
Speaker 1: But we want to say thank you and want to
Speaker 1: tell you that we appreciate you, not only for what
Speaker 1: you do for us, for what you do just in
Speaker 1: general in this world and which you represent. Tell us
Speaker 1: where can we get this? Watch this show? What time
Speaker 1: it comes on so people can tune in because we
Speaker 1: need them to watch our representatives, our queen. It's Undercover Billionaire.
Speaker 1: It's every Wednesday at eight p m. Eastern Standard Time,
Speaker 1: and it's also streaming on Discovery Plus. The first two
Speaker 1: episodes are up right now on Discovery Plus. Monique I
Speaker 1: let our our chairwomen of Until Freedom, our sister and
Speaker 1: the star of Discovery Channels. Undercover Billionaire. We love you,
Speaker 1: we support you, Thank you go ahead, peace out, Monique Man,
Speaker 1: I mean such an inspirational, dope sister. We have the
Speaker 1: best friends. I was just saying that same thing. We
Speaker 1: have so many dope friends, and we were not making
Speaker 1: up a story like new episodes alone. We're just our friends.
Speaker 1: That would be like the best episodes. I mean, it happened.
Speaker 1: And you know, we have a lot of friends, which
Speaker 1: you know, not a lot of people do. It is
Speaker 1: a blessing. A lot of people say to me, no
Speaker 1: new friends. You know, I don't. Women have never done
Speaker 1: anything for me um. And I've had some challenges with
Speaker 1: women along my career, and so I understand some of
Speaker 1: what black women and other women go through, especially when
Speaker 1: we're all sort of fighting for the very limited leadership
Speaker 1: opportunities and budgets and uh, you know, and and and
Speaker 1: things of that nature. But I have been blessed to
Speaker 1: be wrapped with black women who are my friends, they
Speaker 1: are my sisters. I do trust them. Cat Trig is
Speaker 1: one of those individuals, the producer for UM for Street
Speaker 1: Politicians for this show, also the head of Eye Woman
Speaker 1: TV UM. I have I have been black love Cat.
Speaker 1: I have been blessed. And but Monique is very special
Speaker 1: she's she is, she's she stands out by herself because
Speaker 1: of all that she's been able to accomplish. And she
Speaker 1: walks around regardless of what maybe happening, with a mission,
Speaker 1: a goal, and a purpose at all. She confidence that
Speaker 1: you just don't like. She walks into a room and
Speaker 1: she knows, she knows what she possesses. You can't talk like.
Speaker 1: She walks inconfident, she's aware of what she talks about.
Speaker 1: She always brings something to any situation that she's in,
Speaker 1: and that's just she's just a blessing old. She was
Speaker 1: a part of along with my other friend who we
Speaker 1: have to get on, Marvette Britto, um and Uh and
Speaker 1: of course latoy Von my manager, um Our the manager
Speaker 1: for this show. Um Monique worked with them to get
Speaker 1: my book deal together. So she knew so much about
Speaker 1: the book industry and just because she's just a smart
Speaker 1: business person and just to watch her navigate UM in
Speaker 1: a space where I had I didn't know anything. I
Speaker 1: don't know what else was to do. Somebody told me
Speaker 1: they're gonna give me a few dollars and I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, let me write the book and they were like, no,
Speaker 1: doesn't work like that. You actually have to negotiate. You
Speaker 1: need to talk to a number of publishers um and
Speaker 1: have her as a friend in business for our work
Speaker 1: and zation for until freedom. It feels good. It's like
Speaker 1: you know that she is going to ensure that the
Speaker 1: best product is constantly birth. So I love her. I'm
Speaker 1: proud to have my life. And she's such a dope person.
Speaker 1: And it's so sad that I have to go to
Speaker 1: my eye. Don't get it after we talk about so
Speaker 1: many people. What don't you get today, sir? I don't
Speaker 1: get Are you yelling? Yeah? Because you know what's sad?
Speaker 1: Because we're just talking about this beautiful woman and we
Speaker 1: have to that's the way back to dumb sh that's
Speaker 1: how we do, you know. I just really don't. But
Speaker 1: at least we have the moments, monique moments, and then
Speaker 1: we have don't yeah, because I think that's like the
Speaker 1: balance negative in the positive, just the balance of life.
Speaker 1: So we gotta deal with it. But what I don't
Speaker 1: get is how anyone, like anyone in the world, white, black, green, purple,
Speaker 1: kind of red, whatever color you are in this moment,
Speaker 1: after all we've been through, you still you don't understand
Speaker 1: the difference in the way that black people are policed.
Speaker 1: You still don't understand what our play is. How can
Speaker 1: you look at what happened at this capital where police
Speaker 1: actually ushered, you know, criminals and terrorists into the building,
Speaker 1: when Black Lives Matter who were protesting, who literally were
Speaker 1: protesting because they just wanted charges brought against officers who
Speaker 1: actually killed people, peacefully walked up to the front of
Speaker 1: the steps and they had hundreds of army, geared, federal agents,
Speaker 1: national guards, everything. But these people who had planned, strategically planned,
Speaker 1: they had seen them violently go to different states and
Speaker 1: take over buildings, pushed. They knew this. People, these proud boys,
Speaker 1: had been doing this all over the world, and they
Speaker 1: planned this situation and there was no level security. And
Speaker 1: the reason why there was no level of security because
Speaker 1: the security was working with them. And anybody that says
Speaker 1: anything else is lying to yourself. So I don't get
Speaker 1: how people continue to turn the blind on and act like,
Speaker 1: you know, no, police brutality is not a thing against
Speaker 1: black people, you know, the way that police are dealing
Speaker 1: with black people, it happens to all of us. I
Speaker 1: go to my social media page every day and there's
Speaker 1: one or two people that tell me you're just a
Speaker 1: race bader. You just want to point out things, talk
Speaker 1: about what happens to white people. White people get arrested too,
Speaker 1: white people get shot too, all right, And I asked
Speaker 1: them all the time, just show me where this happens
Speaker 1: in the same magnitude that it happens to black people.
Speaker 1: And I have no problem posting if you show me
Speaker 1: police brutalizing white people who have no weapons, killing them
Speaker 1: and shooting them and taking their rights and you know,
Speaker 1: violating their rights on a regular basis. I would love
Speaker 1: to promote that because I want to show how the
Speaker 1: system is not working for everybody. So we can so
Speaker 1: we can just over and what we say all the time,
Speaker 1: especially in this situation, is we don't want the police
Speaker 1: to shoot to kill anybody, anybody, including including us. We
Speaker 1: don't want you to shoot and killing harm the white people.
Speaker 1: We just want you not to shoot and kill us
Speaker 1: the same way you don't shoot and kill them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and that's and that's what it is. So
Speaker 1: I still don't get it. Hopefully I won't have to
Speaker 1: get it. Hopefully at this situation we can look and say,
Speaker 1: you know what, I ain't that you know, I ain't crazy.
Speaker 1: I could see what's going on. We we you know,
Speaker 1: the President said, you know, if this had been a
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter situation, it would have been police difference.
Speaker 1: Well we know that and they and they know it also.
Speaker 1: But you know what the media again, as we were saying,
Speaker 1: uh with Monique, um, the media plays a role in
Speaker 1: that because whenever protests Black Lives Matter protests happened and
Speaker 1: there's you know, anything a brick thrown own, you know,
Speaker 1: if there's a building that burns, all of those things,
Speaker 1: which we totally don't support. But when those things happened,
Speaker 1: they low it up. They highlighted so much and try
Speaker 1: to discredit the entire movement and say that we're thugs,
Speaker 1: were violent. Um, And they are immediately So it seems
Speaker 1: like they're excited to shift the narrative away from the
Speaker 1: reason why people are protesting and to call out the
Speaker 1: reason why some of these buildings are burning. And by
Speaker 1: the way, to be clear, in the summer of tw
Speaker 1: we learned that many of the people burning down the
Speaker 1: buildings and causing the chaos were the same people that
Speaker 1: was out there running up the walls at the State
Speaker 1: Capitol building at the you know at the Capitol Building
Speaker 1: in DC, the same people they call them, We saw them,
Speaker 1: They caught them. They found a woman who burned down
Speaker 1: the Windy's that was a white woman, broke through the
Speaker 1: breaking and target in the order zone. They fact that
Speaker 1: that guy, they specifically went back into his history and
Speaker 1: found out how much he was not a Black Lives
Speaker 1: Matter activists or loyalist. So the same fault to be
Speaker 1: clear on on both sides there on both sides. So
Speaker 1: for me, you know, before we end the show, I
Speaker 1: just want to point out a clear distinction. You know,
Speaker 1: we we protested for Brianna Taylor, and we sat on
Speaker 1: the lawn and then you came into just sat down.
Speaker 1: There was no weapons, there was no force, didn't break anything,
Speaker 1: We didn't knock on the door, We didn't do anything.
Speaker 1: And eight seven of us went to prison, went to jail.
Speaker 1: Well I keep saying prison because I guess because I've
Speaker 1: been to prison. I always say that. But we went
Speaker 1: to jail and people died in the Capital, people were injured.
Speaker 1: There was violence, They broke down windows, they pushed through
Speaker 1: the pretty much backed offices down. They did all before
Speaker 1: you before you go out on that now, is it
Speaker 1: not true that there are black folks who are in
Speaker 1: jail right now because they happened to be somewhere when
Speaker 1: another person was killed and they are charged with association.
Speaker 1: They didn't pull a trigger, but because you were there
Speaker 1: and you were a part of causing why this felony murder?
Speaker 1: If someone is murdered in the act of you committing
Speaker 1: a felony, then that murder goes to you. Everyone who
Speaker 1: was involved in committing that felony is charged with that. Okay,
Speaker 1: So you know, and that's that's a law that has
Speaker 1: a lot of our young kids who locked up, locked
Speaker 1: up who are doing fifty and sixty years in prison
Speaker 1: right now. You know, I know a young boy who
Speaker 1: I've been fighting for and continue to fight for. He
Speaker 1: went to jail. He's not a young boy now, he's
Speaker 1: actually forty one years old, but he went to jail
Speaker 1: at seventeen and for robbing and McDonald's and he's shot
Speaker 1: in the ceiling and he told the people to get
Speaker 1: in the back while he ran off with the money.
Speaker 1: Didn't hurt anybody, didn't kill anybody, no one was injured
Speaker 1: a harm, and they sentenced that were the thirty five
Speaker 1: or fifty years at the age of seventeen, and he's
Speaker 1: done twenty four years right now, and he's still sitting
Speaker 1: in the prison. So if we can continue to over
Speaker 1: you know, incriminate our children, our young boys, and these
Speaker 1: grown people who publicly announced the crimes that they committed
Speaker 1: on TV, who took lives, who injured people, who were
Speaker 1: responsible for the way people died. An officer actually lost
Speaker 1: his life because he was hitting the head with a
Speaker 1: fire extinguisher. So if, if, if we don't see the
Speaker 1: same type of sentences and charges handed down to these
Speaker 1: only fifty this, this was what I was trying to say,
Speaker 1: Only fifty three people have been arrested. Eighty seven of
Speaker 1: us was arrested for sitting on the law. We've seen
Speaker 1: hundreds of people inside of that Capitol building and only
Speaker 1: fifty three people who have been arrested. If you don't
Speaker 1: realize that there's a different police, there's a different America,
Speaker 1: there's two different Americas, then I don't know what you realize.
Speaker 1: And on that note, I might not always be right,
Speaker 1: and I'm always right to me, it might not always
Speaker 1: be wrong, but we will both always be that's a fact.
Speaker 1: Peace out. Thanks for joining street politicians. That's how we
Speaker 1: own