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Speaker 1: Welcome to This Country Life.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Brent Reeves from coon hunting to trot

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Speaker 2: lining and just general country living.

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Speaker 1: I want you to stay a.

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Speaker 2: While as I share my experiences in life lessons. This

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Speaker 2: Country Life is presented by Case Knives on Meat Eaters

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Speaker 2: Podcast Network, bringing you the best outdoor podcast.

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Speaker 1: The airwaves had off.

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Speaker 2: All right, friends, grab a chair or drop that tail gate.

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Speaker 2: I've got some stories to share. Escaping the bubble and Turkey.

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Speaker 2: Number one Turkey season is upon us and I couldn't

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Speaker 2: be happier. It's the only hunting season I ever threatened

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Speaker 2: to quit a job over, and now it's part of

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Speaker 2: my job.

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Speaker 1: Sweet mother of Pearl, It's Turkey.

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Speaker 2: Week here at Meat Eater, and all week long, it's

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Speaker 2: been a virtual Turkey palooza. Steve's podcast and Cal's are

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Speaker 2: Turkey themed. I was a guest on a true crime

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Speaker 2: special episode hosted by our very.

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Speaker 1: Own Jordan Sellers.

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Speaker 2: Jordan put this unsolved, intriguing mystery together that I hope

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Speaker 2: you adults will listen to. Who knows you may know

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Speaker 2: something that could help bring this case to a close.

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Speaker 2: They're all on the meat Either podcast channels and not

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Speaker 2: hard to find. My friends Gary Stanton and Charlie Moncaster

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Speaker 2: of Muscadine Bloodline are talking turkeys over at God's Country.

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Speaker 2: Then you've got Spencer's Turkey Tribune, the Render, and yours

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Speaker 2: truly was on cutting the distance just yesterday with Dirk

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Speaker 2: Durham over at Phelps Game Calls. Turkeys in the morning,

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Speaker 2: turkeys in the evening, turkeys at supper time. We're off

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Speaker 2: and running. And now I'm gonna tell you a story.

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Speaker 2: For eight years in a row, from when he first

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Speaker 2: started turkey hunting, my brother Tim would get his limited

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Speaker 2: birds at Arkansas. Then you could kill two male turkeys,

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Speaker 2: only one of which had to be an adult. In

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Speaker 2: other words, you could kill a jake, a juvenile male

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Speaker 2: turkey that historically had been reserved for kids in first

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Speaker 2: time or inexperienced hunters. It was perfectly legal, but so

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Speaker 2: was shooting mallard hens. But just because you could do

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Speaker 2: something doesn't mean you should. It was frowned upon and

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Speaker 2: more weary turkeys. They tasted the same. I know this

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Speaker 2: because desperate times have called for desperate measures. And while

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't shoot one, now there were times about one

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Speaker 2: hundred turkeys or so ago, when I would throw punch

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Speaker 2: the occasional Jake towards the end of the season, when

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Speaker 2: I hadn't had any luck so far, and see old,

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Speaker 2: any port in a storm is good theory. I'm not

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Speaker 2: proud of it, but I ashamed of it either. I

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Speaker 2: only had two or three places to hunt within driving

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Speaker 2: I had to take advantage of him when I had

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Speaker 2: the chance. Tim was the same way when he started out,

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Speaker 2: but now he was slipping up on being a ten

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Speaker 2: year veteran. Jake's worn't on his hit list, but he

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Speaker 2: had a problem. The rest of us were smashing turkeys

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Speaker 2: with reckless abandon and he couldn't have hemmed one up

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Speaker 2: in a phone booth. It just wasn't working out for him.

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Speaker 2: Everything he did backfired on him. On top of that,

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Speaker 1: Do no wrong.

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Speaker 2: I was tagged out Joe Bryant, Tim's brother in law,

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Speaker 2: who I've talked about before on here as being an

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Speaker 2: Bryant chose father, Tim's father in law, and a turkey

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Speaker 2: hunting mentor like no other had tagged out, and there

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Speaker 2: little Timmy sat with a pocket full of turkey tags

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Speaker 1: Of course we did. That's what That's what families do.

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Speaker 2: We did it until mercifully, mister Brian had decided tim

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Speaker 2: River Bridge. Everyone usually gathered mid morning at the store

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Speaker 2: You brought your turkey to a check station which was

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Speaker 2: set up in country stores and they took down your name,

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Speaker 2: Mister Brian told him one evening, after another fruitless day

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Speaker 2: would do everything he told him, and just like he

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Speaker 2: told him, no deviation, and Tim agreed. Another sleepless night

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Speaker 2: Tim to bust through the bubble. He only had to

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Speaker 1: Tim agreed, even though he didn't want to.

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Speaker 2: He didn't like not being able to call that that

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Speaker 2: was the strongest part of the allure of turkey, to

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Speaker 1: The order of how it works in nature.

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Speaker 2: Gobbler's gobble and hens come to them, not the other

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Speaker 2: Tim waited in the pre dawned darkness for a turkey

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Speaker 2: waiting on, more than anything else, a turkey gobble. They

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Speaker 2: Mister Brian set him down and sat down a few

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Speaker 1: Tim said, I knew it was Jake's.

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Speaker 2: When I saw him coming, but I was hoping against

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Speaker 2: I don't want to shoot a Jake, but Joe and

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Speaker 2: mister Brian both told me if I wanted to get

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Speaker 1: Tim didn't shoot him. He said he was too little.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't what mister Bryan told him to do. Told

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Speaker 2: The first legal turkey that gets close enough. And that

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Speaker 2: it was just a feeling the guy. That feeling was

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Speaker 2: I guess, I guess he should have shot that first turkey.

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Speaker 1: But now there's a PostScript on this story.

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Speaker 2: After Tim washed his boot off in the creek, they

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Speaker 1: Lengked beard.

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Speaker 2: said that turkey weighed eleven pounds, and he wanted to cry,

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Speaker 2: brother killed a big gobbler with one inch spurs, and

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Speaker 1: That's just how that happened.

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Speaker 2: I get asked all the time what type of hunting

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Speaker 2: me to answer. Then, after arguing with myself and talking

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Speaker 2: up saying turkey hunting every time. I don't know why

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Speaker 2: I can't just say it that way from the beginning.

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Speaker 1: It's like I'm throwing shade on duck hunting or squirrel hunting.

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Speaker 1: Or coon hunting, but they're all so different that it's

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Speaker 1: hard to compare. I'm thinking about it now and second

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Speaker 1: There's so many things to say about coon hunting. I'm

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Speaker 1: never alone when I'm doing that, even if nobody's with me,

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Speaker 1: because I got my dog wailing. He's my coon hunting

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Speaker 1: but turkey hunting man. There's just something about it that

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Speaker 1: Phelps Cutting the Distance podcast that came out yesterday. We

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Speaker 1: had a good conversation. I'll slip over there and check

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Speaker 1: it out when you get a chance. But while we

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Speaker 1: killed my first turkey, and without hesitation, I said I

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Speaker 1: sure do, was April eighteenth, nineteen eighty five, and he

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Speaker 2: I told him a little bit about that hunt. More

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Speaker 2: but I remember every detail of it.

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Speaker 1: The year before I.

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Speaker 2: Was still hunting for squirrels over there what we called

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Speaker 2: The next spring, I was what I liked to refer

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Speaker 2: killed at least one turkey by themselves was a turkey

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Speaker 2: We drove thirty miles west from Warren right before daylight.

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Speaker 2: We were a quarter of a mile deep in the wood,

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Speaker 2: The woods we were waiting on daylight inn were open

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Speaker 1: I said, that ain't no turkey, that's someone shaking a box. Call.

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Speaker 2: He laughed, and he said, no, it ain't. Sit down

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Speaker 1: That far now.

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Speaker 2: It was my first lesson in not guiding the guide.

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Speaker 2: This guy had killed multiple turkeys, brought me to his

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Speaker 2: The absolute worst position I could have taken to shoot

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Speaker 2: What he was trying to tell me was the turkey

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Speaker 2: I was wiggling all over the place trying to get

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Speaker 2: of him kept getting closer. There's no way that, sir,

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Speaker 2: his eyebrows furring with fury. Whatever, dude, I turned back

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Speaker 2: Gobbler Numero Huno stepped out into the opening up the

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Speaker 2: I was out of position. I was pointed at twelve

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Speaker 2: Day had just turned into a real turkey. Hut him

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Speaker 1: A lesson.

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Speaker 2: I learned that on day one, and would never ever

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Speaker 2: the first wild turkey I'd ever heard gobble. It would

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Speaker 2: uncontroled urge each spring from that day forward to try

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Speaker 1: It's been said they can hear you thinking and see

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Speaker 2: For forty years, I have never missed a season, and

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Speaker 2: now I get.

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Speaker 1: To travel and do it as part of my job.

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Speaker 1: Who'd have ever thought my life would lead to this.

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Speaker 2: I could go turkey hunting just about anywhere there's turkeys

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Speaker 2: people I'm going to see than the turkeys. I'm hoping

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Speaker 2: to get from Mississippi to Alabama, Missouri and Arkansas and

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Speaker 2: who knows where else. It's the people and families I've

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Speaker 2: I haven't met yet that mean more than any turkey ever.

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Speaker 2: Could they say the quality of your life is measured

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Speaker 2: I believe it is, Turkey season has filled my soul

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Speaker 2: from this year's struggle in the next few weeks if

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Speaker 2: I can avoid the bubble. Good Luck to spring, and

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Speaker 2: watch where you step until next time.

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Speaker 1: This is Brent Reive sign it off. Y'all be careful.